1 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Okay, wow um, Hello, Hello and and 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: high and welcome to Stradio Lab. And if I may 3 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: be so bold, Happy New Year. And if I can, 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, speak out of turn, you'll forgive me. I 5 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: want to say Happy New Year as well. And if 6 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: I could just butt in here and interrupt and circle 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: back and Happy New Year? Do you mind if I 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: cut in? Uh? And I was actually gonna say, I 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: was actually gonna give you the floor afterwards. Oh well 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: that's great because I'm sorry for cutting in before you 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: offered me the floor, but the floor is now mine 12 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: and I'm using my power as a speaker to say 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. And before we adjourn, I just wanted 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: to say Happy New Year. You know what, that was 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: an incredible sound effect, George. I just have to give 16 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: a big shout out to that, because we don't get 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,680 Speaker 1: many sound effects on this pod. No, no, we don't 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: have the budget for it. And and so you're sort 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: of d I y ng it and saying, you know what, 20 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: we don't need the budget. I'll do it my damn self. Well, 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: we already used all our budget to um auto tune 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: our voices. We normally sound much worse our voices. Well, 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: what's crazy is our voices are extremely deep. It's like 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: it was like too erotic and sexy, so well we 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: gave them. We use this special gayifying technology we normally 26 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: found kind of like sports casters. Yeah, you know, it's 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: very you know, well, it's actually very jarring because we'll 28 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: be talking about very kind of like silly gay things, 29 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: but then our voices will be like are you a 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: top war bottom? Yeah, it'll be like did you watch 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: the Britney Spears documentary? Right? And so you know, our test, 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: our test audience has found that really really jarring and 33 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: was it was strange. So the network spend all our 34 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: budget on the auto tuning and I love it. I mean, 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: it's it's really been incredible. It's interesting though, because now 36 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: so many I meet so many people who are fans 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast, and they expect expect me to have 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: this voice. So I have now invested in extensive vocal 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: training and speech therapy so that I can train myself 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: to actually sound like this in my normal life. Wow, 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: that must be so traumatizing for you. Yeah, well, you know, 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: I also want to bring up, George, how are you 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: meeting all these fans of the podcast? I mean I 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: thought we were all supposed to be inside right now. No, no, no, 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't count for podcaster fan meetups. Oh okay signing 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: autographs and stuff. Yeah yeah, well or um, people love 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: it when I, you know, I kind of put lipstick 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: on and then I'll give him a smooch and then 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: that's and then they'll have like my lip print, George. 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: You know, I just feel that that's really not like 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: safe right now, Like that's a really horrible idea. Why oh, 52 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: because it's cold season, bitch. Okay, you got me there. Okay, seriously, 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: what is your favorite part of cold season? Don't lie? Um, 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: you know what. My favorite part of cold season is 55 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: having your pod where you all know you're gonna get 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: a cold, and then having a kind of nice get 57 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: together where you share one giant pot of hot toddy 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: and you watch um the holiday. That's one of my 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: favorite cold season traditions. One of my favorite cold season 60 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: traditions is sharing a giant mug of a hot drink 61 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: with all your friends that also have a cold. I mean, 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: that's how the girl is really bond. That's just how 63 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: a crew is formed. If you're not sharing a drink, 64 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: you're just strangers in my book. Oh my god, we're 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: having sound issues again. And you know what I'll say 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: it it's my mic. And you know what, I just 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: want to say, I'm tired of being stigmatized for causing 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: audio issues. I think we need to there needs to 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: be a conversation in the queer community about destigmatizing having 70 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: a malfunctioning microphone when you're recording a podcast about straight culture. 71 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: Here's what I will say, George, is the you know, 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: while yes, the stigma is real, people assume gay men 73 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: will have mic issues and also have uh dealt with 74 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: this before and have not made any changes to your 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: mic set up. You know, at some point you have 76 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: to stop blaming society and start And I didn't really 77 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: expect the language of personal responsibility to come from you say, 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: after we've for so long analyzed I mean, a big 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: theme of this podcast is um is, you know, the 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: pitfalls of personal responsibility rhetoric and how we need to 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: talk about things like, for instance, microphone malfunction is as 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: a systemic um issue, that is, if anything worsened by 83 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: our crumbling social infrastructure. So the idea that you would 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: point to me, you would point to me and you 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: would say that faggot over there, his mic doesn't work. 86 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: It just seems um not and keep with the spirit 87 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: of the podcast. And you know what, George, I think 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: you're so right. And I really fell into a trap 89 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: right there. And you know, I think that's such a 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: good lesson that even I, you know, someone who's so 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: socially aware and like just generally very smart, can sort 92 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: of blame the individual when clearly it is the government 93 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: that is not providing Mike's too gay podcasters and that 94 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: is causing this issue. Well, you know, the UM stimulus 95 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: package didn't include Mike. It only included Mike's first straight podcasters. 96 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: That's so much up. That's so dark, George. I've got 97 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: an idea. What what if you go undercover using your 98 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: real voice and pretend to be straight. Therefore you will 99 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: get your microphone in the stimulus We'll see. And this 100 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: is where we get to the central tension of this podcast, 101 00:05:52,279 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: which is the balance between ah blaming systemic forces for 102 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: the plight of queer individuals, especially gay white men, and 103 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the necessity to live out loud as your authentic self. 104 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: So on the one hand, you could live quietly and 105 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 1: and have audio issues. By necessity, it would be quiet. 106 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't hear me, but you'd be silencing 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: yourself if you pretended to be straight in order to 108 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: get a better mindy. Well, once again though, but once against, 109 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: but once again, stop telling at me. I would not 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: be telling myself. I would be silenced by the forces 111 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that are not giving me a better microphone. Idea that 112 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: I am silencing myself because I have a microphone that 113 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: doesn't work is extremely problematic. No, it's not problematic. It's 114 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: a fact, George, Like you need to grow up and 115 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: like starting to take some ownership of the fact that 116 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: you don't own a microphone that works. How can I 117 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: take ownership of the fact that I don't own something. 118 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: It seems like a logical fallacy to me. Well, it's 119 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: actually not. It's not a logical fallacy. It's a logical 120 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: truiscy a logical truisty. Yeah, especially haven't heard that one 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: before in your litt books. That was not in what 122 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: I did not take that logic class. Yeah, go back 123 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: to the drawing board. He hit the library because you've 124 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: got a couple more words to learn, bitch. Well, now 125 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: that we've gotten that out, of the way. Yeah, is 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: it time to bringing our guests? Fine? Sure? Are you 127 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: mad in the mood for it? Are you gonna be 128 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: mad this whole podcast? No, but I am planning on 129 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: gas lighting our guests into being on my side. You wouldn't, dare? 130 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean? I guess we'll have to wait and see. Well, 131 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: I can't wait any longer. Let's introduce him. Please, welcome 132 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: to the stage. Um Cola Scola. Hi, Hey here, hey Cole, 133 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: thanks for coming over. Oh wasn't Sam being fucking weird 134 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: during that intro? Oh I just got here? Oh no, 135 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm okay. Well I wasn't. Yeah, Well he didn't hear 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: any of that. What's wrong with your mind? Fuck? There's 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: something wrong with it. It's making a weird thing. Yeah, yeah, no, 138 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: it's Um. The important thing to know is that I 139 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: it's not my fault. How come, well, Cole um as 140 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: a queer youth, I have overcome so much to go 141 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: from being a youth to being a podcaster, and so 142 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I can't be held accountable for my mic not working. 143 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: It's just interesting because Sam and I our Mike's work. Right, 144 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: It is interesting, And I would even argue Coal is 145 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: not even a podcaster. And yet yeah, huh, not even 146 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: a podcaster? Yeah, and yet you're a podcast Wow? Okay, 147 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: yeah cool? How many podcast appearances do you think it 148 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: takes to become a podcast? Or I think you have 149 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: to host one? I think I've I'm being podcasted right now. 150 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: I would not internalized self hatred you are expressing. Really, 151 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean to be so to be just willingly adopting 152 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: this passive role you're being podcasted? Are you not in 153 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: control of what you're saying in this podcast? Oh? I'm sorry? Wait? 154 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Do you think that anyone passive is not giving consent? 155 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: How do you do your work? No? No, you're you're 156 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: pretting words in my mouth. I did not I to 157 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: to say that you are being podcasts. The world you 158 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: are when you are fully in control of your actions, 159 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: is creating this narrative of um, of a victimhood in 160 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: your head then, which only serves too then um for 161 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: you to yourself to skirt accountability for the consequence of 162 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: your actions, meaning producing a podcast. Wait, how do you wait? 163 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: Where did you stand with Alex Morrise? Just because you're 164 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: you're Like, if I were to say, oh, I'm being 165 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: fucked right now? Does that? Does that insinuate that I 166 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: have no agency or just you are but you are 167 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: as you're being fucked, you are having sex, are you not? 168 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: You are a sexual being? And you are you are, 169 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not a I'm not a fucker. I'm being fucked. 170 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: I think you I'm not a podcast. I'm being po 171 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: I think you are still a fucker when you're being fucked. 172 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: You're still a fucker when you are even if you're 173 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: being fucked. I really disagree here, expand on there's the 174 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: fucker and there's the fucked, and you are either one 175 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: or the other. And sex is topping and bottoming and 176 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: that's it. And so do you think by being a 177 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: guest on someone podcast you are at the bottom, because 178 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: that also seems wildly absolutely huh? You keeople listening to 179 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 1: tell the difference between our voices? Um, yeah, yeah, I 180 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: mean I can yeah, And that's yeah. And and there's 181 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,119 Speaker 1: no one else listening. We haven't released it yet, cool right, right? 182 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, well you know, maybe I'm just worried. What 183 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: are you worried about? Oh? Just well, George's um politics 184 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: and us all sounding the same, and George's mike, it's 185 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: making that sound again. I do want to say, we 186 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: haven't actually pinned down that it's my mic I think 187 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: you are rightly taking them blame. I decided to kind 188 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: of take the blame, thinking that then other people would 189 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: be like, no, it might be mine, and then everyone 190 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: accepted that it was mine. But we have not actually 191 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: fact checked that. And to me, Um, I don't know 192 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: I care about the truth. I guess well, oh, I 193 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: guess if you cared about it, you would have said, 194 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: who's Mike? Is that not? It's mine? Yeah? Right, Well 195 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: that's another productive tension, is caring about the truth but 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: wanting to take the blame because I'm kind of a 197 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: martyr figure. Well, George, you need to be direct, you know, 198 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: if you want to get um real answers to your questions. 199 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Because these games, I'm I'm not really here for all. 200 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna I don't want to spe 201 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: for Cold. I don't think he's here for the games. 202 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: I just want to say, right now, it feels like 203 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm the one being podcasted. Huh interesting? Would you see 204 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: your verse? No, I I would say, you're gas lighting? 205 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah great. So how's your new year going? Okay? Uh, 206 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: so far it's very uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable right now. Yeah, okay, 207 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: if you could have If if you could um control 208 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: me and Sam right now and control this entire experience, 209 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: what would you have us do to make you more comfortable? 210 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: I I would have you go to Best Buy and 211 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: get a new Mike, go to Best Buy in person. Well, yeah, 212 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: you can order it online for pickup, but you would 213 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: want me to stop this recording. Order one for pickup, 214 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: reschedule another day for you to hop on a zoom 215 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: and then no no, then Sam and I could just 216 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: do the podcast and then you could do whatever your 217 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: next episode for the future. So, just to recap, you 218 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: would want me to leave this conversation. You're you asked 219 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: me my opinion, you asked okay, So I don't know. 220 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: You're getting an answer you don't like, and now you're 221 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: trying to force me into giving you an answer you 222 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: do like. I don't know. I'm confused here. Well, tensions 223 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: are high here on the podcast. Um yeah yeah, well 224 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: and best guy, I don't think it's open for much longer. 225 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: M h so yeah wow. Um, well are you crying, George? 226 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: I know I'm not crying. I just I mean, I've 227 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: really we've been wanting to have you on the podcast 228 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: for a really long time. I mean, we we both 229 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: really like you and think you're really great, and I 230 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: all I wanted was for the government to send me 231 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: and you Mike before we started recording, so it wouldn't 232 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: be on me too, you know, make or break this episode. 233 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. And I don't know, it just it feels 234 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: like um to already be coming in at a disadvantage 235 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: and then be completely blindsided by this animosity from you 236 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: is just not what I expected tonight. This podcast was 237 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be about me. You guys are supposed to 238 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: be here for me, and I come in and automatically 239 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: it's you're trying to pit me against Sam. You're trying 240 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: to pit Sam against me, You're trying to um pick 241 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: yourself against your mic, You're trying to you're you're you're 242 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: trying to confuse me about consent. I just think that 243 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: like going forward, going forward, like tonight was supposed to 244 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: be about me, and you know what, Yeah, I just 245 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: want to hop in and say, George, I'm so so 246 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: embarrassed at how you're acting, Like, you know, like we 247 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: really really wanted to have a coal on the podcast 248 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: and like, you know, we've been looking forward to this episode, 249 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: and like this is supposed to be kind of a 250 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: huge blockbuster style episode, like sort of like a Marvel 251 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: movie of an episode. And it's like you came in 252 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: here with like this like really like amateurish energy and 253 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: like obviously the broken microphone and like putting us all 254 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: against each other, and it's just like sort of like 255 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: you're afraid of success, and I sort of feel like 256 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: you're trying to bring me down with you. Well, here's 257 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: what I'll say. I just want to say, I recognize Cole. 258 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: I know you've been preparing physically, much like Camille Johnny 259 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: for this episode for months, and you're actually, um, I'm 260 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: looking at you now. You are I mean, veins are 261 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: popping out of you from every which way because you've 262 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: been working out. But yeah, right, because you've been working 263 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: out NonStop. Um, because you knew this was you know, 264 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: this kind of a big deal and and and we 265 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: are really framing this as kind of a centerpiece of 266 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: um this the post Glamour magazine, the post Glamour magazine 267 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: era of the of the podcast, and um, and so 268 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: I recognize that. I will say, in my defense, I 269 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: thought that to bring you in with the uh introducing 270 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: the bit that I am trying to turn you against Sam. 271 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: I thought that would be such a rich place to 272 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: start in terms of creating a narrative for the episode. 273 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: To me, I was really planned to get see that 274 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I thought would turn into something bigger, and I did 275 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: not expect it to blow up in my face as 276 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: much as it did. Well, you have to understand that 277 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: I for me, it's my business first, um, and my 278 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: business is my personality and who I am. And so 279 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: when you or anyone for that matter, and I'll say this, 280 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not pointing fingers anymore. If anyone tries 281 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: to create a narrative about me, that's my brand, that's 282 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: that's like my business that affects income, you're then messing 283 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: with my income. And so I have to do whatever 284 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I can in my power to gain that narrative back. 285 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: And your Mike is still messing up a little bit, 286 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: just a little bit. It's not as bad as before. 287 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: It really isn't as bad as before. I will give 288 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: you that right and and listen, I I'm not saying 289 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: you're a cloud chasing social climber, but what I am 290 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: saying is you know, coming in, you made the very 291 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: specific distinction that you wanted to side with Sam and 292 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: not me. Maybe because um of Sam's recent viral tweets. Well, 293 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's because I'm right, Like maybe like maybe 294 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: Cole just sees like who's right and who's wrong? Like 295 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: maybe more maybe industry works. Maybe Cole has like a 296 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: moral compass and like you know, cares about I don't know, 297 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: good and evil. Huh. Interesting. I guess normally when I 298 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: hear the words my brand and my personal narrative, moral 299 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: compass isn't the phrase that comes to mind. I think 300 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: having a brand is one of the most morally pure 301 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: things you can do to sort of create a cultural 302 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: personality and then use that to sell products to people 303 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: that look up to you. I think that's christ Like honestly, like, 304 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: that's literally literally promote something like I have to actually 305 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: like it myself. That's moving, Like, that's so awesome. Okay, 306 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: well what you're doing so we can we can we 307 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: can transition into you promoting the product you came here 308 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: to promote. Yeah, it's um ice water. Also tell us 309 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: more so, it's just water with ice. Well, yeah, you're 310 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: being a little dismissive just water with us. Maybe let 311 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: him describe what it because that's what people. It's just 312 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: water and just ice. Because if you look at the 313 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: ingredients of ice water, if you go to a restaurant, 314 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: there's a reason they don't give the nutrition facts on 315 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: what's in that water because you don't know what's in it. 316 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: That water sits there in the kitchen, not in a freezer. 317 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: The ice is not really frozen. It's just like you 318 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: do not know what ice is not really frozen, right, 319 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: it's because it's not really ice. You don't know what 320 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: you're getting. There's no nutrition information. So this is ice water. 321 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: It says on the back exactly what it is. Just ice, 322 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: just water, so you know what you're getting of the time. 323 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: That sounds so awesome. Um, I'm kind of like a 324 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: awful with like kitchen stuff and like cooking and what. 325 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: UM is it like easy to do at home? Like yes, yeah, 326 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: so you order you sign up for UM. It's like 327 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: a monthly kit and what you do is you'll get 328 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: like you get this cardboard box and then inside the 329 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: cardboard box there's like like the packing peanuts to keep 330 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: everything safe, and UM, you get UM a silicone sort 331 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: of tray and the tray is shaped like little squares 332 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: and you put UM, you put water in that and 333 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: the water comes separately. We send you a box and 334 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: it comes with the water and you breathe the ingredients 335 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: it says just water for the ice. You pour that 336 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: water into the silicone square thing. You put that in 337 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: the freezer and then UM, when that's ready, you just 338 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: go on the app. When like it's formed ice, you 339 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: just go on the app and you click ready for 340 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: my water, and then we send you UM water and 341 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: then you you just add the ice to the water 342 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: and you know again because you've read the ingredients, you 343 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: know what you're getting. So and I just want to 344 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: ask one and when you're done, when you're done, you 345 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: send everything back. You just click UM. You go on 346 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: the app and you click done with my water, done 347 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: with my ice, and you send everything back. You Yeah, 348 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: there's no waste. We email you the label. You can 349 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: go to ups FedEx whatever the post office printed out. 350 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: UM ship everything back and then UM go right on 351 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: the app and click when you're ready for more, you 352 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: click thirsty again. I just want to ask one thing. 353 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Call Yeah, So you're sending UM everything back including the 354 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: actual ice water, or you're just sending the packaging once 355 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you've consumed, you're just sending the pack You're just sending 356 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: the packaging back. Um and what is this packaging? Um? 357 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: It you do that whenever you want just a single 358 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: glass of ice water? Correct, Yeah, like a big glass, 359 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: like one of the bigger ones. So so the just too. 360 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 1: So I'm away so multiple times, and you have this 361 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: app and whenever you want a glass of ice water, 362 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: you you click ready for George. You're drilling like like 363 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: he's telling you that you're drilling him on his on 364 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: this product like well, you know, much like much like 365 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: coal has to like a product in order to advertise it. 366 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: I mean, we are giving him the ad space on 367 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: this podcast to do it. So I just want to 368 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: absolutely I agree with you. No, but you you missed 369 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: a step because um, Ready for my Water is what 370 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: you click when you've received the tray and after yeah, 371 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: and after you've filled the ice and you've frozen it. 372 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: But when you want when you want, the step one 373 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: is okay, I'm thirsty. Oh I see, that's the first one. 374 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: And then we send you the ice kit. So the 375 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: app has three buttons okay, I'm thirsty. Oh. It has 376 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: a lot of buttons. Yeah, because there's been like technical issue. 377 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: We we just want to be sure that we, like, 378 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: um cover all of our bases. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So 379 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: there's like a button for like why is my water? 380 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: Why is my ice water now? And why is my 381 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: ice water now? Yeah? Yeah yeah, and then we kind 382 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: of walk you through or like not we but like 383 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: they have there's like a whole technical support team to 384 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: walk you through like what could possibly go wrong? Troubleshooting 385 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: like did you put it in the freezer? Did you 386 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: not put it in the freezer? Did you leave it 387 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: out of the freezer? Yeah? Is this non gmo? What 388 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: is it non gmo? The ice water? Um, it's just water. 389 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: It's just water and just ice. It's on the belt 390 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: on the ingredients it says just water, just ice. So 391 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: I just to make sure the ingredients it doesn't say 392 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 1: just water some of it liquid, some of it an 393 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: ice form. It says water and ice. Has two separate ingredients. Yeah, 394 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: it's just water, just water and just ice. You have 395 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: a question, I think, uh yeah, I guess I was confused. 396 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, you you're obviously here to promote it's a 397 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: hundred a month, a month, and how many waters does 398 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: that get you? Oh? As many as you want? Amazing? 399 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: It takes two weeks. Yeah, it takes like two weeks 400 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: or like ten days to you know, two business weeks 401 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: to like ship everything. So each time yeah, so so 402 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, just to clarify, each time you want a 403 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: glass of water, you then have to wait two weeks 404 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: for it to arrive. Will you wait two weeks for 405 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: the ice and then when the ice is made, then 406 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: you click your ready for the water, and then you 407 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: wait two more weeks for the water. Yeah, thank you, Sam, Georgie, 408 00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: are you listening all? So So, so if a month 409 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: roughly a month roughly has its usually about six or sevens. 410 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: So let's say let's say a month is usually six 411 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: or seven weeks, right, you ask for the water away 412 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, asked for the ice way two weeks. That's 413 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: four weeks right there. So basically, if you added up 414 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: as many times as you want, and it's a hundred 415 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: dollars per month, right, as many times as you want, 416 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: but each time it takes four weeks in total for 417 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: a glass of ice water. M yeah, because you know 418 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: what you're getting it's just water and just ice so 419 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: so I so, on average, you're getting one and a 420 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: half glasses of ice water and you pay a hundred 421 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: dollars for it. Well, you can get more a month. Yeah, 422 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: it's for a whole month. I know, it's for the 423 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: whole month. You only pay only it's one time payment 424 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: per month. No, but with the shipping delays, I'm saying 425 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: you only get a total of like a glass and 426 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: a half at most. Well, how thirsty are you? Right? Yeah, 427 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: like you should be like drink all of it, Like, 428 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: don't just drink half of it and throw it away, Like, 429 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: drink all of the water. It's a big cup. It's 430 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: one of those bigger cups, one of the bigger sam 431 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: whose side are you on? I'm sorry, I'm I'm guess 432 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: is always right. I thought we were all on this side. 433 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: I thought we'd sort of resolved the issues, you know what, 434 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: And you know what, that's my combative side coming out 435 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: and I and I apologize. It's just, you know, it's fear. 436 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: I grew up. It is you know what it is. 437 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: It is fear because I have my own way of 438 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: doing things when it comes to ice water. Well, we 439 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: all do that's what we like. We grow up like 440 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: learning like, oh it's okay. Just whatever they have is fine. 441 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: We don't know what's and we don't know who they are. 442 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: We don't know who they are. We don't know how 443 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: long it's been there? Right, well, even if you take 444 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: it right out of the faucet, how long has it 445 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: been sitting in that? Far? Said exactly, I've always said that. Yeah, wow, yeah, well, 446 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really coming around to this product now, 447 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: m SAM, go ahead. Well, I was gonna say, cold, 448 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: do you want to record a few like quick little 449 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: spots so we can put them, um, just sort of 450 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: in in this episode and in future episodes. You know, 451 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: I think that could be really helpful. Yeah, I'm just 452 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: going to read off some of the words, and you 453 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: can put them in whatever order. Okay, yep ice water 454 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month, fresh water every two, every two weeks, 455 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: ship it back just water, dirsty please, and then okay, 456 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: and that's it. And then you guys can sort of 457 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: rearrange that just those words if in various different orders, 458 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: we can get at least fifteen ads out of that. Great, 459 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: that's awesome, sauce. Okay, great, Well, you know what. I'm glad. 460 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry if that was stinted. You know, I had 461 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: these questions that I wrote down that I had to 462 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: ask because it's you know, it's an entire segment dedicated 463 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: to the product um And just to clear, is the 464 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: product itself called just water? No, it's no, no, no, 465 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: no, no no, that's those are the buttons in the app. 466 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh two more buttons. Okay, yeah, because it's ice water, 467 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: it's just called it's ice water. It's called it's ice water. No, no, no, 468 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 1: ice water. You've seen the like I don't know if 469 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: you guys are taking the train, but like the ads 470 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: are everywhere. Oh yeah, I haven't been on the train, 471 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: so I guess I haven't seen it. Yeah, well that 472 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: sounds awesome. I've always been looking for a new way 473 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: to do my water. I've always I've actually I don't 474 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: really trust a lot of the um current bigger water 475 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: for ice water. So I haven't had water in seven years. Yeah, 476 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: because there's a reason there's no ice and bottled water 477 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: because you don't know where it's coming from. You don't 478 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: know where it's coming from. And the companies, because in 479 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: bottled do they have to put ingredients. They're not going 480 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: to put the ice in there because they know they 481 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: can't get away with it. Yeah, these bigger, these big companies, 482 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: you know, and they have they pay millions of dollars 483 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: to lobbyists because they're trying to change the laws. Now 484 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: we can put whatever we want in water. So they 485 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: want to put whatever they want in a bottle of water. Yeah, 486 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: they want to put like stuff that it makes you 487 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: think it's ice, so kind of plastics and saran wrap, 488 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: put glass, potentially glass. So if the water companies had 489 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: their way, you would if the water companies had it 490 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: their way, you would go to a store maybe if 491 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: you're in New York City of Bodega, and you would 492 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 1: get a bottle of water and it would be just 493 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: chalk full of waste really from I mean, even if 494 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: water companies had it their way, they would bend you 495 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: over and raw dog you without your being caught, and 496 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: they would call it water. They'd be like, that'll be 497 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: one sevent Yeah. Yeah, the water industry is one of 498 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: the most ruthless industries out there. I'm so glad they're 499 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: being disrupted by this. Um Yeah, thank you, well, well, 500 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: good for you, thank you. It was good to see 501 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: you guys. Well cool, Actually, this has been an awesome conversation. 502 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: Do you want to stick around and maybe do the 503 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: rest of the pot with us? Sure? Yeah, I'm Kane. 504 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: Wow that really felt so real. Um okay, let's do 505 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: the first segment. Um, George, you explain it. Yeah, I'll 506 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: explain it. But I I do I have to say 507 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: quote um, and I hate to say this, but this 508 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: product you're pitching, it really has asked more questions than 509 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: it has answered for me, and I do want to 510 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: go back to it later on, but but I do 511 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: think we should take a break, maybe do some entertaining 512 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: segments to keep the audience engaged. They're probably um freaked 513 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: out right now that they've been, they've probably And you 514 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: know what, if you're thirsty, just download the app and 515 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: you can get half a glass of water within if 516 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: you go to just water dot com slash Tradio Lab, 517 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: make sure you put in the slash Tradio lab so 518 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: they know it's from us. You can get that app 519 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: right now. Um. Okay, so let's start. First of all, 520 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: the first segment on this podcast is called straight Shooters, 521 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: and in it, we assess your familiarity with straight culture 522 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: by asking a series of rapid fire questions. Um. Unfortunately 523 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: that sounds incomplete as a as a description of the game. 524 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: But the one rule is that you can't ask any 525 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: follow up questions. Are you ready? Okay? Yes, okay? Ring 526 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: light or ring worm, ringworm? Okay? My neck, my back, 527 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: my pussy, my crack or spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch spectacles, 528 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: testicles wallet watch Cool, Identity politics or Identity Thiefs starring 529 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: Jason Bateman and Melissa McCarthy. Oh fuck identity and I'm 530 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: trying to wait, I'm trying to guess which one. This 531 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: sounds a lot like a follow up question if you'd 532 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: refer back to the beginning. We we really clearly said 533 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: no questions about let me look at the beginning. Can 534 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: you guys go back zoom back in it so I 535 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: can hear the rules again? Um? Sure, yeah, we can 536 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: rewind cool. The way this game works is that we're 537 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: going to ask a series of rapid fire questions to 538 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: gauge your committed the thirsty hold on, George, I think 539 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: you have to fast forward a little. I think we 540 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: would be rewound too much. God, Sorry, this is so 541 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: the government. I'm sorry. I fast forwarded too much. Wait, 542 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: let me rewind again. Okay, yeah, I think you're in 543 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: the right place now, okay, so cool. The way that 544 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: our first segments Straight Shooters works is that we are 545 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: going to ask you a series of rapid fire questions 546 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: to gauge your familiarity with straight culture. The questions are 547 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be of the form A or B and 548 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: you have to pick one. But the one rule is 549 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: you can't ask any follow up questions about how it works. Okay, 550 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm ready, Okay, fast forward a little more. Okay, all right, Okay, 551 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: I got it. So I can't ask any questions exactly 552 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: identity politics or identity Thiefs starring Jason Bateman and North McCarthy. 553 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: Identity politics, okay, Cole, Hunter Gatherer, Society or Shop till 554 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: you Drop Society Country. Wait? Can I say a statement 555 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: and if you know the answer, if it were a question, 556 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sounds exactly like what we told you 557 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: to do. Call. You have a huge problem with authority 558 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: and that is really coming out now, Well, this isn't 559 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the just water offices were in charge here? Ice water, 560 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: um a Hunter Gatherer, Cole Awards season or sir, that's 561 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: treason sir, that's treason. Okay, cool being brain dead or 562 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: being body dead, being body dead, cool, Radiohead, sexy Back 563 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: or athletes foot. But that's three correct? I. I mean 564 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: you can scroll back to the beginning, but you don't have. 565 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 1: You did say it was A and B. You said 566 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: it was aplies the existence, that's it, I think, and 567 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: C implies the existence of being, but not necessarily. Sometimes 568 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: we because there doesn't SMEs, we do three options. Okay, well, 569 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: then maybe next time you described the game to someone 570 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: just keep it in mind. Sure, um, but I would 571 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: do them. I would get a new mic first before 572 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: doing right right right. So I guess I'll go with B. 573 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't even remember the sexy Back, very Cole um 574 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: Alt Indie or just plain weird, just plain weird. Well 575 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: that was the game. I here's what I will say about, UM, 576 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: what's going on? UM? I feel genuine stress. M I 577 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: think at first it was sort of playful. It was 578 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, fake fight, fake fight, fake fight. UM, and 579 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: now I feel you know that thing where you are 580 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: mean to someone as a joke for too long and 581 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: then you forget how to Then you like start to 582 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: feel like you're like wait now, it's real, right, I agree, 583 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel very tight. I feel like um Cold is 584 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: someone I have a ton of respect for and as 585 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: someone who has always been very kind to me, and 586 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,959 Speaker 1: ever since he joined this zoom, all I have done 587 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: is um kind of called him names and question his 588 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: product ice water. Yeah. I feel that way too. Well, 589 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: maybe we can right right, maybe we can just kind 590 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: of take a cleansing breath. I don't want to know. 591 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Well yeah, sorry, just like wrong for right now? Sure, 592 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: so where what do you think? You know, let's say 593 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: you were in charge of let's say you were the 594 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: podcast rather than the podcast did what how would you proceed? Um? 595 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: I would just go with what's next? Sure? Sure, yeah, 596 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: that's a really good uh response. Um, yeah, so you 597 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: know sort of typically um, right now we might get 598 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: into the topic. That's an option. You know, typically we 599 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: don't get into it immediately after the game. We sort 600 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: of uh, okay, so well normally, you know, and this 601 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: isn't meant to be a sort of a judg a 602 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: judgment or an attack. Um, and so please don't get defensive. Um. 603 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: Normally sort of a riff is flowing naturally around now 604 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: it's sort of um, we're not asking, um, what do 605 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: we do next? We just are doing if that makes 606 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: any sense, right, It would normally be blowing. Normally I 607 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: would kind of be able to move my arm past 608 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: my shoulders rather than being so tense that I'm actually 609 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: shaking from um from horror and anxiety. You're crying again, Well, no, 610 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm not crying. I just I just feel like I 611 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: tried so hard to like to to to get past 612 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: this moment that we had a couple of minutes ago, 613 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: and I feel like we were in a good place 614 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: and now we're just bringing it back there again. And 615 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: it's like this supupposed to be the Grand Block Moost 616 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: episode and like not even that. Like the investors are 617 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: all here today and like like this is like they're 618 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: all literally watching live in the zoom and like like 619 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: they're like huge investors from like some of the top firms, 620 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: and it's like this is like one of the most 621 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: like hurtful and embarrassing things. And it's like I know 622 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: that you got upset because we were like sort of 623 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: messing with your income, but right now, like you're messing 624 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: with our income. Like like the investors are literally in 625 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: the zoom and it's like this is our livelihood? Like 626 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: I literally already put down a down payment on a home, 627 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: and it's like like because I was like, well, obviously 628 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: this episode is gonna be a smash, and it's like 629 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: maybe maybe not maybe the maybe the investors are all 630 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: going to back out. Mm hmm. I guess I'm confused 631 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: as what the problem is. Like, I like, I'm having 632 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: a really good time. I thought we were all having 633 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: a really good time, Like I, yeah, I just want 634 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: to kind of keep having fun or something. Yeah, I 635 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: cannot help but feel like you're maybe not being honest 636 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: with your emotions. Um, you say you're having fun and 637 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 1: you're in a good mood. You know, I have not 638 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: seen you smile, smirk, laugh, I've not seen a single 639 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,240 Speaker 1: ounce of joy. I've you've been frowning, You're you're sometimes 640 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: even just looking at your phone. Um, the tone of 641 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: someone who's having a good time. Yeah yeah, Well no, 642 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: you're right, I'm not like having but no, no, no, no, 643 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: But like I'm excited about what's going on, Like what 644 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do after this, Like I feel fine, Like 645 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't need to keep checking in, like we just 646 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: need to get through this, Okay, I see what's happening. 647 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: You just kind of want to steamroll through, like this 648 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,360 Speaker 1: is something that you're doing just you just want to 649 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: do You want to get it over with so you 650 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: can keep on living your life. Is that correct? Absolutely? Yes, 651 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: thank you, it's really flattering. Thank you for saying yeah. 652 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: Of course that I didn't I thought that was like 653 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, I thought it was clear. 654 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: Now that's out in the open, I can I really 655 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: am just feeling so relaxed and I can breathe so 656 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: more easily. I mean, we ever want from our guests 657 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: is for them to say, let's get this over with. 658 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't care about this. Mm hmm. We consider do 659 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: you want do you need to say that explicitly? Like 660 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: IM definitely complicitly. It works for now. I mean, this 661 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: is something him and I disagree on. I kind of 662 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: need explicit markers to know where I am with any 663 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: person at any given time, Otherwise I get really really 664 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: anxious and then I keep checking in. Is that why 665 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: you don't have anything on your walls? Do you think? 666 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 1: And here we go, So for the listeners that are home. 667 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: George has lived in his apartment for two months now 668 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 1: and three months now and the walls are completely bare. 669 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: Um I see them. I see the what's it called 670 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: the breaker box, which is a really sad thing when 671 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: the only thing on the wall is like the breaker box. Yes, no, 672 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: it's um, I it's not. I think to me, there's 673 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: something about moving during all of this that because it's 674 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: not real life yet, I can't uh allow myself to 675 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: pretend it is. It feels forced and it feels artificial. 676 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: But I would argue opposite this window. Yeah, I want 677 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: to be argue that. Sam's arguing again, Well, it's true, 678 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: like you know, like now you're spending more time at 679 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: home than ever, Like I feel like now is the 680 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: time to sort of focus on the domestic and uh 681 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: not looking at you know. Yeah, So once again we're 682 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: back to the language of personal responsibility. I am in 683 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: charge of decorating my own apartment. Who do you expect it? 684 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen. During the New Deal, people, 685 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: the government hired interior decorators that went around to the 686 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: homes of the middle class and and put that right 687 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: and put kind of frame prints of Audrey Hepburn and 688 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: Breakfat the Tiffany's. That's how we got the first gay immigrants, 689 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: Like there were no gay people in America until FDR 690 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: was like every okay, like someone needs to let go 691 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: and like like fucking give these people something to live. Like. 692 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: This is why it's so frustrating when we have this 693 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: kind of neoliberal discoursive around gay politics, because gay people 694 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: were created for a government program. I mean, the roots 695 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: of it are socialists. It's that FDR took you know, forcibly, 696 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: took gay people from their families and other parts of 697 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: the world, brought them to America and then sent them 698 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: to the homes of of of families that needed interior decor. 699 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: But to be fair, it is kind of like um, 700 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,280 Speaker 1: when you bring like a new species to a new environment, 701 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: you think you can control it. And I think that's 702 00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: what homophobia was for um, sort of keep the numbers healthy. 703 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: But now the numbers are just skyrocketing. And and so 704 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: I it's tough. What do we do English ivy exactly. Yes, No, 705 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: gay people are very much like English ivy mm hm. 706 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: And so it begs a question, you know, was homophobia 707 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: kind of a necessary evil to contain them? Mm hmm. 708 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, thank you for saying that. I didn't want 709 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: to be the one to say it. Yeah, um, yeah, 710 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: you know. I think now, actually it would be a 711 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 1: natural time to bring up our topic. Um Cole, you 712 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: came to us today. I think people will be surprised 713 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: to hear you were unconfident. Your shoulders were slouched. You 714 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: were sort of looking at the ground shuffling. You have 715 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: narrow shoulders. They weren't really slouched. They have narrow shoulders. 716 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: I've seen you stand up tall and confident, and I 717 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: know when you're slouching. Okay, and you were shy about 718 00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: this topic, and I want you to how the world 719 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: now what it is? Well. One of the most fascinating 720 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: aspects of straight culture to me is the concept of 721 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:17,319 Speaker 1: um and and the word cheating, cheating, cheating, cheating, How 722 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: would you define that? Like, he cheated on me, so 723 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: we're over, you see, So cheating on someone, Yeah, immediately 724 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: created parodynamic wherein one person is a cheater and one 725 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 1: person is a cheated and he cheated on me, so 726 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 1: it's over. I It's it's such a baby word. It 727 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: is no, it's cheater. He cheated, and it's like it's 728 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: like babe, recess is over. Yeah, it's even if you're 729 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: in a monogamous relationship, like the idea of like it's 730 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: it's almost like I Harry Potter plot. Yeah, I've never 731 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: read the books. Cheating. Cheating is a huge part of 732 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: Harry Potter. Every every character truly chip and it's all 733 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: about cheating and sort of the lies they tell in 734 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: order to get away with it. Invented by J. K. Rolling. Yeah, 735 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: how it's like the worst thing like to happen in 736 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: a relationship, like he cheated that culture of of like 737 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,320 Speaker 1: cheating is the absolute worst thing you can do in 738 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: a relationship. If you're cheating, then it's like let go girl. 739 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: Well and you know it also is like everyone has 740 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: their own definition of cheating. And some people will be like, 741 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,520 Speaker 1: he kissed her, it's over. Yeah, and it's like and 742 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: then but some people will be like I didn't come 743 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: with her, babe, Like I'm fine. I had one friend 744 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: from in high school who was mad at her boyfriend 745 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: for watching porn. Oh yeah, well I don't allow my 746 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: so I get that George should I It seems so weird? 747 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 1: What if he likes it too much? Yeah, it's like 748 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: looking at porn that's emotional, that's having an emotional affair. 749 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 1: If you google, Yeah, if you google like ass you're 750 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: having an emotional affair. Yeah. Yeah, it's like looking at 751 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: someone else like oh yeah, oh looking. No if I'm 752 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: not and if I if you're not, if I'm not 753 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: with you, then you're not allowed to open your eyes. M. 754 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: If like a hot guy walks by you and you 755 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:48,800 Speaker 1: go boling, that's cheating. That's cheating, cheating, and once a cheater, 756 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: always a cheater. I've always said that cheaters will just 757 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 1: they will find a way to cheat. Now because I've 758 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: noticed any of your example, as you use men cheating 759 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: as the as the animating force, I think women can cheat. No, yeah, 760 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that happening. I've never know. And 761 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 1: when women cheating, I often I often think that's um, 762 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, why are you trying to be 763 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: like a man. It's kind of anti exactly, it's kind 764 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: of self hating. It's very I really and and you know, 765 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: I try to support women when I'm being recorded, but 766 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: I it seems to me like why are you trying 767 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 1: like just be a woman? M Yeah, cheating. That doesn't 768 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: have to do with being unfaithful. Cheating just kind of 769 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: on a quiz or on a test or even on 770 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: the S A T S. That's fine too. I think 771 00:47:53,360 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: that's actually I think that is yeah, because tests are right. 772 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: I think I didn't want to say the B word, 773 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: but tests are bad. Cheating on a test, to mey 774 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: is gay, but cheating on a on a partner is straight. Yeah, 775 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,720 Speaker 1: to each their own right. I'm not here to judge 776 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: people for being monogamous, but I just know for me, 777 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: when I am attracted to someone else that it doesn't 778 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: take away from my attraction to my partner, or if 779 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 1: I like, even if I have feelings for someone else, 780 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't take away from my feelings for my partner. 781 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: For me, when my partner sleeps with someone else, do 782 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: I get insanely jealous and insecure and want to like 783 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: um clawed my eyes out? Yes? Absolutely, And I also 784 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: know that that's me. That's my insecurity and it has 785 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with yes. Yes, And for me, it's 786 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: like if I like someone and then go on a 787 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: few dates with them and I had to be an 788 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm an argous relationship with them and then move in 789 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: together and maybe get engaged, that's not cheating on my partner, 790 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: right right, right, right? Wait, And we need to it's 791 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: very all of this is very rooted in heater a patriarchy, 792 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: like I should be able to, um, be in multiple 793 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: monogamous relationships wherein I'm engaged at the same time and 794 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: in fact, at any given time be uh the subject 795 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 1: of multiple vows columns in the Times. I think you 796 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 1: should wait. I remember reading about you written many times, 797 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: but only implicitly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know seriously, Like 798 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't really count as cheating if you're only engaged 799 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: like until the ring is on the where like it's 800 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: not even cheating. Seriously. Sure, well, but I have married 801 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: many of these men. Oh well, then you're a cheater 802 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: and a liar. Huh wow, you know, I do think 803 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 1: always a cheater. I do think. Um. I feel like 804 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: as a gay man, it's like like very like social, 805 00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: like sex stuff is kind of social too, Like it's 806 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: like like how can you be Like it's hard to 807 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: be monogamous because it's like you'll literally be at like 808 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,440 Speaker 1: an underwear party and it's like, well, this is kind 809 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 1: of a sex thing, Like you know what I mean, 810 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: it's hard for gay men because we're always at underwear parties, 811 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: like the sexual crazy because like when you're gay, like 812 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: you can just be at an underwear party and like 813 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 1: you have to funk everyone. Oh my god, you are 814 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:51,319 Speaker 1: literally words interesting my arm. I don't know. Like one 815 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 1: of the things that I like about being UM a 816 00:50:55,560 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: fag is like is seeing through the the like the 817 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, the stupid sure you know whatever rules. Yes, 818 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: it's it's important to um rebel against trait society by 819 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 1: creating a new, more complicated set of rules that can 820 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,839 Speaker 1: make you unhappy in different ways ding ding ding ding 821 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: ding or UM make you challenge yourself, you know, when 822 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: you're insecurities and face you know, like, oh do I 823 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: need that part? Do I need my partner to not 824 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,359 Speaker 1: have sex with anyone so that I feel complete? Sure? Yes, Well, 825 00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,000 Speaker 1: I often find I'm not. I'm not challenged enough day 826 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: to day. So I like to create new challenges for 827 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: myself just for the hell of it, for the hell 828 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,520 Speaker 1: of it, or to come because for the hell of 829 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: it is is not a good enough reason. But UM 830 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: creating challenges so that you can come. That's the scales 831 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:10,280 Speaker 1: are tipping a little in that favor. You know. Well, honey, 832 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 1: if I want to challenge, I just go for a run, 833 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 1: am I right? Seriously? Happy New Year's everybody after everyone 834 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: knows that about you. You know, if I wanted a challenge, 835 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,800 Speaker 1: I'd go for a damn run. Tell you what. Seriously, 836 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: anytime I'm with people and they're like, oh, we want 837 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: to ditch Sam, let's just run. He'll never catch He'll 838 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 1: never catch us. He hates If my monogamous partner ever 839 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 1: goes on a run, that's cheating. That's no. If he 840 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: does crazy cheating, like you need to talk about that. 841 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: Was he trying to get in shape for like he 842 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: has a boyfriend like, I mean you know what, literally, 843 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,399 Speaker 1: like that's run. I often we have this fight where 844 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: I say, why can't why do you have to keep 845 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: hurting me like this and go on runs? Just go 846 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 1: have sex with someone else. That's so much less at 847 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: because it's direct, like exactly like he's like lying to you. 848 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 1: He's like, oh I'm working out. It's like, no, we 849 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 1: know what you're doing on these runs, Like oh no, 850 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 1: it's for me, like it makes me feel good, Like okay, 851 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: someone has self love, then they are cheating on you 852 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: with themselves. That's even more toxic than than having an affair. 853 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: To me, if if my boyfriend is happy with himself 854 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 1: and feels good about um. You know, the way he 855 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: is and the way he looks. I think that is 856 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: so Um. It creates this toxic environment where where I 857 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:40,360 Speaker 1: have to compete with him m hmm for his own love. Yeah, 858 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,800 Speaker 1: I think whenever. That's why, Like when guys aren't therapy, 859 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:49,439 Speaker 1: it's you should like talk to me, that's all. Don't 860 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 1: even get me started on therapy. I mean, the ultimate 861 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: form of it goes the it goes m from from 862 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: least bad to worst. It goes cheating on, cheating with 863 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 1: someone else, having sex with someone else, going on a run, 864 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: loving yourself, going to therapy. Yeah, all of that stuff. 865 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't exist, you know, kind of toxic relationship dynamics 866 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: don't exist among gay people. That's a straight thing. Though. 867 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: I've had such a wonderful time some of the best 868 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,680 Speaker 1: some of my favorite boyfriends at me too, me too, um. 869 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 1: And I've never met a gay person who has who 870 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: has done anything wrong. You know, Here's what I will 871 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: always say about the gay lifestyle. It's just good vibes 872 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: only it is. That's the crux of it. And when 873 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 1: FDR shipped all those gay people over to the interior 874 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: decorators from middle class straight couples. That's that was the 875 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: one Uh, that was the one direction he gave them. 876 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: Boys go out there and good vibes only. And so 877 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 1: George also, you know, I'm not as um well read 878 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 1: we'd where women come from? Gay women? Yeah, well they 879 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 1: were on the Mayflower. Oh no, here's what happened. Certain 880 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 1: gay women were on the Mayflower. That's true, that's okay, 881 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: forget that. But otherwise what ended up happening is so 882 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,799 Speaker 1: the gay men were so focused on aesthetics when they 883 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: were doing this decorating that all the bones of all 884 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: of these houses were absolutely demolished within like two seconds. 885 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 1: I mean that men would go there, they would hang 886 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 1: something up with like a nail that was, you know, 887 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,959 Speaker 1: made of horse hair or something, and then they would 888 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,120 Speaker 1: kind of leave, and then within three days everything would 889 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: be decrepit. So then uh fdr spaces fact. So then 890 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: he had to bring in lesbians to fix the the 891 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,919 Speaker 1: actual bones of the homes. And then since then there's 892 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,279 Speaker 1: been this beautiful tradition of gay men ruining things and 893 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: lesbians fixing them. Oh that's where that started. Yeah, that's amazing, amazing. 894 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: I want to go back. I want to I want 895 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: to go back because I feel like I I've made 896 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:08,880 Speaker 1: George feel bad about being in a monogamous relationship. Me. Yeah, no, 897 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 1: you haven't made me feel bad at at all. It's 898 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: not something I think that made you feel bad many times, 899 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: just maybe not about that. Yeah yeah, I mean our 900 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,640 Speaker 1: relationship is our friendship is built on um this power 901 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,640 Speaker 1: and balance where you make me feel bad and then 902 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: I say thank you. Yeah, but as someone who gets 903 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 1: insanely jealous, I understand monogamy when that's why I started 904 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: ice water and there you go. Thank you for I 905 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: was like trying to egg you on to bring it 906 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: back to the to the to the app. Yeah, just 907 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: because I was like, Okay, I have all this energy, 908 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: like like there's already enough negativity in the world. What 909 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: can I do to give back? And so I went 910 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 1: to Silicon Valley. I sort of like book my head 911 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: around a little bit. This was like um in July, 912 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 1: so like COVID wasn't as bad as it is. It 913 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,719 Speaker 1: was still pretty bad, like I should have worn a 914 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,799 Speaker 1: mask and stuff, but I mean it's California. The air 915 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: is like different. Yeah yeah yeah yeah, it was really hot. 916 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: We didn't know was really clean. Yeah yeah, yes, um 917 00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, and then I met some guys that were like, 918 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 1: we have this idea for ice water. I was like, oh, 919 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 1: but I already have that. They're like, no, you think 920 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: you do. But then yeah, so that like so that's 921 00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: why I so in a weird way, like my open 922 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 1: relationship is what lead ice water to being what it 923 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: is today, which is the number one brand of ice 924 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: water with an app available on the market. I think 925 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: it's so cool that you started talking about ice water 926 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: UM as a product that you love, and you know, 927 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 1: as the podcast has gone on, you sort of revealed 928 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 1: it's also a product that you started. You started. It's 929 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: a little dishonest to um I just your ownership in 930 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,959 Speaker 1: the in the brand at the beginning, it's it's hard 931 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 1: for me. I feel a little bit like you cheated 932 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: on us by no no, which is good, okay, okay, 933 00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: but I again, it was like these guys started it. 934 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: I just sort of hopped on and was like, I 935 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: have a platform, let me help you guys. They were like, 936 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like we don't our product isn't explicitly 937 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: gay like we like. I was like, Ariana Grande follows me. 938 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: Um They're like, okay, right right, So yeah, I worry 939 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,560 Speaker 1: about the band. Um. But so you are kind of 940 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 1: sorry what you're kind of a glorified celebrity spokesperson. It's 941 00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,400 Speaker 1: kind of like when Alicia Keys was a creative director 942 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: of Puma or Lady Gaga was the creative director of Polaroid. 943 00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: Yes and Alicia, Yeah, that is exactly what it is. Sam, 944 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 1: thank you. Okay, okay, so cold you want to what 945 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: the question? I'm sorry, not Puma, it was BlackBerry. I 946 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: always get those two confused. Yeah, no, I always accidentally 947 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: I take my Puma speaker and I put it on 948 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: the air and I say hello, and then I try 949 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 1: to use BBM on it, but I'm I'm actually looking 950 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 1: for my BlackBerry. Yeah. I hate when I'm trying to 951 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: BBM and I'm like, wait, this is a shoelace. I'm 952 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 1: such a fucking idiot BBM and it's a Puma sneaker. Um, 953 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 1: and then but that's what. But that's the thing. Those 954 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: are the times when you have to call Alicia Keys 955 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: and say wait, you send her a photo of what 956 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 1: you're holding and you say is this a sneaker or 957 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: a BlackBerry? It's really really bad as when you end 958 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: up using the BlackBerry as a sneaker and you like 959 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 1: step on it and you end up sending a BBM. 960 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: That's like totally embarrassing and like it's just like like 961 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 1: you like send these photos to people on an accident 962 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: because you're like stepped on your BlackBerry and like you 963 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,680 Speaker 1: send an accident like foot BBM. Like we've all been there. 964 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 1: That's the Anthony Weener photos leaked. Yeah. Yeah, he was 965 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: a cheater, by the way, it's a cheater. I mean 966 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 1: a classic cheater. Yeah, who's the most famous cheater on Earth? Clinton? 967 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: That's true. Good point. That is a good point. Do 968 01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 1: you think do you think Bill Clinton would have cheated 969 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: if he had access to pure man? Yeah, he was 970 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: really up. He was like he was like, look, Monica, 971 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 1: I am so backed up, like like I've tried everything, 972 01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: like this sounds so stupid, but like if I blow 973 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: in your mouth, like maybe that'll loosen, like maybe that'll 974 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: jiggle a little. Yeah, And she was like you but okay, 975 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: but you know, President it wants to poop. I'll do 976 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: what I can. It's my like duty as a patriot. Yes, 977 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, if he had had Pereferman, that probably wouldn't 978 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 1: have even happened, what would be the angle that would 979 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 1: get us canceled for this for that last rant? Like 980 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: right now, that's a question. So I think, well, there 981 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: are many layers. I think you could. I think some 982 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 1: people would say just the fact that you are joking 983 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: about it is bad. Right, So that's layer one, right, 984 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: because what happened to her was was of course unacceptable, 985 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: and and and and bad and and and and he 986 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 1: was in a position of power, and and yes, the 987 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: media like dragged over the coals, and it was very unfair. 988 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 1: And she's been traumatized for life. So that's the layer 989 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,160 Speaker 1: one is just like you can't even mention it, that's bad. 990 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Layer two like the punching up versus punching down arguments, 991 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,320 Speaker 1: So like are we by by saying that rand are 992 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: we punching up or punching down? I think we're punching 993 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,240 Speaker 1: like um, like sideways, And and to be honest, a 994 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 1: little bit down mm hmm, because we are in the 995 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: imagery that we described, we're putting her in kind of 996 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,960 Speaker 1: a humiliating yea in the affair, he's also in a 997 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 1: humiliating position, like he's all stopped up because you're star 998 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: I think What happened is we started with wanting to 999 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:34,360 Speaker 1: humiliate Bill Clinton. We started wanting to be like, imagine 1000 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,479 Speaker 1: how stupid it would be if Bill Clinton was so bad, 1001 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 1: if that's and that's why he she did exactly. Yeah. 1002 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: So and then this what you're saying, I think is 1003 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,440 Speaker 1: a third way we could be canceled, which is to 1004 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: say that the sin was cheating rather than beauty power. Yes, yes, 1005 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: so you're minimizing it. Uh huh right, correct, decap we 1006 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 1: have talked about something that's taboo, then punched sideways and down, 1007 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: and then minimized what was a gross abuse of presidential power. Well, 1008 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:22,360 Speaker 1: should we do our last segment? Yes? Wow, Um, yes, 1009 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: I think we should do our last segment. Um. So, 1010 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,160 Speaker 1: our last segment is called Shoutouts coal and you know, 1011 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 1: we give a radio shout out sort of in the 1012 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: style of t r L two to something you like. 1013 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: It can be anything in the whole wide world. Um 1014 01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: and uh, George, do you have one? Sure? What's up? Listeners? 1015 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to my 1016 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: deep dysfunctional microphone. And first of all, I'm sorry to 1017 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: victim blame you because you are maybe not even the 1018 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: dysfunctional one. I just took credit for it in a 1019 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,320 Speaker 1: way that I thought would make me into murder, but 1020 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: then in fact it ended up making this entire episode 1021 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: into kind of a competition for who can be meanest 1022 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,080 Speaker 1: to me, which I maybe should have seen coming. But 1023 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I thought I was talking among the friends. But in 1024 01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: fact it is you that it is the issue that 1025 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: I want to say. It is not your fault. It 1026 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,640 Speaker 1: is the government's fault. And I will never replace you 1027 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 1: because you are not defective to me. You are perfect, 1028 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 1: just in a different way. And so with that I say, 1029 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:34,240 Speaker 1: go for and maybe pursue comedy. Love the whoo Um okay, um, 1030 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,280 Speaker 1: well what's up listeners? Um. I just want to give 1031 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: a huge shout out to the bizarre New Year's broadcasts. 1032 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I found that to be so touching and weird to 1033 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,640 Speaker 1: have all the ten people sitting in Times Square wearing 1034 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Planet Fitness merch and who could forget the keya countdown 1035 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the clock? I want to buy a car yesterday. I 1036 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: love this countdown. It felt so corporate and so branded, 1037 01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: and I think I think more things should be and 1038 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 1: I think this podcast should be, and so in that regards, 1039 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,560 Speaker 1: I want to give a shout out to Buick. I 1040 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,800 Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to Amazon. I'm gonna 1041 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 1: give a shout out to Chipotle like you to me 1042 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 1: are a local restaurant. Thanks everybody, who who what's up? Listeners? 1043 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,720 Speaker 1: I just want to give a quick shout out to 1044 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 1: everyone out there, this including you, because we are the 1045 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: ones that make the difference on November three. We will 1046 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: get out there, We will march the vote, we will 1047 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: make our voices heard. We will tell the government no 1048 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: more and tell ourselves time is now? Whoa than awesome? Uh? Cole? 1049 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: I guess you know full transparency, we should mention that 1050 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: you are a Biden sorge uh here today, So that's 1051 01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: sort of what that was for. Oh, you're the only 1052 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,040 Speaker 1: Biden sorget's still actively campaigning for him to get elected. Well, 1053 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,120 Speaker 1: because you know, we don't know what the Republicans are 1054 01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: going to try to pull, right, but you are still 1055 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,439 Speaker 1: knocking on doors and telling people the election isn't over 1056 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 1: lord for Joe Biden. Yeah, because when when do you 1057 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:24,080 Speaker 1: get attacked vulnerable when your back is charing? You know, well, 1058 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm America may have their back turned, but 1059 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I've got my back up to America turned the other way, 1060 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,600 Speaker 1: back to back. I am back to back with America, 1061 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: and I have got I'm I'm the eyes in the 1062 01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: back of this country's head. That's what I like to say, 1063 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: even though you're facing the other way. Well, here's the 1064 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: back of the head and the back of the I'm 1065 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,000 Speaker 1: the eyes in the back of America's I see. So 1066 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: you're back to back with America. But you do have 1067 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,400 Speaker 1: eyes in the back of your head. No, he has 1068 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: eyes in the front of his head. He's back to 1069 01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: back to America. So he's the eyes on the back 1070 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,880 Speaker 1: of America's head. You can draw it for you. It's 1071 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: actually in the ice outer app like a little picture 1072 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: because it's the same like the money that Joe and 1073 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: Jill are the ones who created it. And then so 1074 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,240 Speaker 1: so so just a clarified call because a lot of 1075 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,320 Speaker 1: this is really clicking in the place. Joe Biden's presidential 1076 01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: run was all a giant sponsored campaign for ice water. 1077 01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: It was hand in hand. It wasn't like one or 1078 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 1: the other, like there's no there's This is what I 1079 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: hate about cancel culture is like, hey, there's there's gray areas, guys. 1080 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: M right, yeah, Well, Joe Biden ran on the platform 1081 01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: of his His catchphrase was there's gray areas, guys. Yeah, 1082 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: and I thought that was that that was very powerful, 1083 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: although you know, clearly not powerful enough since you're still 1084 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: campaigning for him. We just don't know what the Republican yea, 1085 01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: these guys and the long ago. Just I'll say, to 1086 01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 1: be safe, the election isn't over, no one has one yet. 1087 01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Please keep voting, stay in line, stay in line, and 1088 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,919 Speaker 1: even if you already voted, go vote again. Get get 1089 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: your ass to the polls. I know I hate when 1090 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I get like condescending like this, but like, seriously, get 1091 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: your ass to the polls. If you can hear this, 1092 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,599 Speaker 1: get your ass to the polls. Go to Georgia. You'll 1093 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 1: see various names on the ballot. Ignore those and right 1094 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: in Joe Biden for president because we don't know what 1095 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Republicans are gonna We don't know what the Republicans are. 1096 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 1: We just don't know what they're gonna pull They've got. 1097 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm the eyes in the back of America's head. 1098 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 1: Guess what Republicans have eyes in the back of their 1099 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: head and their snakes. There's snake eyes. So there, there's America, 1100 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 1: there's you. Back to back, and then there's a snake 1101 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: circling around America and that's the Republicans. Yeah, that's amazing 1102 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,400 Speaker 1: and we just don't know what they're gonna learn more. 1103 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 1: Download ice Water app on your phone. Um well, Cole Um, 1104 01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:03,559 Speaker 1: thanks for doing the podcast. Um. I think this will 1105 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 1: be a thrilling listen for anyone that hates George. So sorry, George, 1106 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. All Right, I don't know. I don't 1107 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: know any other like humor games besides be me. Wait, 1108 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 1: hold on, let's keep that ink. Am bye.