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Speaker 1: Let's move on to some pretty noteworthy comments that are

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Speaker 1: being made on the Republican side about their economic plans.

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Speaker 1: We just got some footage of Mike Johnson talking about

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Speaker 1: their plans to continue to undermine go after dismantle repeal,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, the Affordable Care Act. Let's take a listen

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Speaker 1: to how that went.

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Speaker 3: Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House, was campaigning in

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Speaker 3: I think we have this exchange, let's play it.

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Speaker 2: Healthcare reform is going to be a big part of

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Speaker 2: the agenda.

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Speaker 4: When I say we're going to have a very versus

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Speaker 4: first hundred use agenda, we got a lot of things

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Speaker 4: on the table.

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Speaker 2: No Obamacare.

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Speaker 4: It.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the ACA is so deeply ingrained. We need massive

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Speaker 4: And we got a lot of ideas.

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Speaker 3: So he says, no Obamacare, says massive reform to the

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Speaker 2: Obamacare is pretty popular.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is one of those things saga. Obamacare

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Speaker 1: is now at this point very popular. It's so popular

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Speaker 1: they no longer call it Obamacare.

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Speaker 5: They now call it the Affordable Care Act.

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Speaker 1: And healthcare is one of those issues that has been

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Speaker 1: when you when you ask people what their top issues are,

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Speaker 1: healthcare always ranks very high up there, and yet neither

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Speaker 1: campaign has made it a focal point. The Harris campaign

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Speaker 1: sometimes talks about like we're doucing prescription drug costs, but

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Speaker 1: the bigger ambitions around even a public option like that

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Speaker 1: is completely invisible. But Trump also has not talked about healthcare.

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Speaker 1: Last time around, he famously tried to repeal the Affordable

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Speaker 1: so you know, you still have the true believers like

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Speaker 1: is you know, absolutely dedicated to repealing Thefordable Care Act.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say Obamacare is popular. I would more

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Speaker 2: say that repealing protections in Obamacare is unpopular because there

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Speaker 2: people hate the healthcare system, which is basically that's true

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Speaker 2: what it is, right, Yeah, but they hate Helcare, but.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to go back either to what it

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Speaker 1: pre existing conditions and some of those reforms that have

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Speaker 2: That is the key. I mean, but in general, if

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Speaker 2: you ask people are like, do you like your healocritism? No,

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Speaker 2: our healthcare prices too?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, like if you go down the yea absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Let me think that's what Republicans always delude themselves into

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Speaker 2: recall twenty eighteen blowout midterm election almost entirely because of

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Speaker 2: the ACA vote. You can ask any of the Republican candidates,

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Speaker 2: specifically in the swing states, every single one of them

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Speaker 2: That's literally why Christen Cinema is in the Senate, which

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Speaker 2: to a broader question though, of what the hell is

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Speaker 2: going to happen if Donald Trump does win. Let's put

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Speaker 2: find the signs for whatever you want. So currently this

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Speaker 2: when you have not heard of I have heard of this.

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Speaker 2: I did a monologue aout of years ago. It's called

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Speaker 2: the America First Policy Institute. It is run by a

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Speaker 5: Huge She founded it with Larry Cudlow.

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Speaker 2: That's right, So I got Larry Cudlow. Linda McMahon, who

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Speaker 2: against Jade Vance is the vice presidential pick. Now, clearly

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Speaker 2: he will be there in the White House if they

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Speaker 2: You have Johnny mcintee as well previously, who worked in

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Speaker 5: I've not the dude who just said that women shouldn't

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Speaker 2: Well, he made a joke about that on this TikTok Chris,

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Speaker 2: that is correct. Yeah, he runs left really hard. I

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Speaker 2: forget exactly what his channel is called it's like something

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Speaker 2: Those people could very much not agree with Brook Rollins.

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Speaker 2: But I'm setting people up here for if an eventual

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Speaker 2: On the economic you know, you're gonna have Steve Bannon,

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Speaker 2: Will Rollins be the one that is there. It can

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are a few things we

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Speaker 2: I like, that's like not a question.

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Speaker 1: Now, the significant tax break for billionaires, for corporations, the

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Speaker 1: centering of Elon Musk is also incredibly significant. Elon is

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Speaker 1: like this, you know, hardcore, like let's cut two trillion

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Speaker 5: He is a fan of Javier Malay, who.

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Speaker 1: Is like this, you know, positions himself as an arco

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Speaker 1: how Trump's agenda needs is going to cause hardship, temporary hardship, but.

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Speaker 5: That is necessary. Let's take a.

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Speaker 6: Listen to that as produce spending to look within our means,

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Speaker 6: And yeah, that necessarily both some some temporary hardship, but

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Speaker 1: Trump term. He says, if Trump succeeds enforcing through mass deportations,

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Speaker 1: This economy, propped up with debt and artificially suppressed wages,

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Speaker 1: in the coming two years, to which Elon Musk, who

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Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say, like that's honest, and

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Speaker 2: Will continue, and he will end. If he does win

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Speaker 2: mass deportation. Fisher King is correct. I mean, look, this

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Speaker 2: probably good for overall top line GDP to have mass

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Speaker 2: at human beings as literally amic utils, and yes, there

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Speaker 2: will obviously be a market correction. I've been honest about

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Speaker 2: It's definitely not good for overall GDP necessarily to have

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Speaker 2: going to increase quote unquote prices. Yes, it's true. We

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Speaker 2: should all be honest if you support that policy. Now,

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Speaker 2: do you think that's better in the long run, Yes,

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Speaker 2: I absolutely do. I mean I can't sit here and

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Speaker 2: but I think it's good. I think it's important. You

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Speaker 2: But that's kind of where I look at it. So,

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Speaker 2: That that message is actually quite popular now. When it

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Speaker 4: And play that. I have to be careful what I

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Speaker 5: But he's old.

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Speaker 2: Now he is old.

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Speaker 5: I mean he has lost many steps.

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Speaker 5: Remember, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: It's been a minute since this man was effective out

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wild true?

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Speaker 5: Guess maybe he's like the same age as Trump.

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Speaker 1: Trump kept eating the McDonald's and Bill Clinton went away,

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Speaker 2: The more unhealthy that you are, the better president that

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Speaker 2: with the Israel stuff. There's actually an interesting story I

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Speaker 2: wanted to highlight. Let's put this up there on the

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Speaker 2: screen from the Times of Israel where Trump apparently, according

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Speaker 2: to that Israeli sources, told Netanyah, who he wants the

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Speaker 2: Gaza war over by the time he enters office. He said,

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Speaker 2: according to Nettyah, who's several times, win the war quickly,

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Speaker 2: do whatever you need to do, but basically you need

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Speaker 2: to wrap it up by the time that I take office,

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Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to deal with the political and

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Speaker 2: the geopolitical fallout of that situation. Now obviously kind of

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Speaker 2: a difficult prospect because what it would mean would be

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Speaker 2: ending the Lebanon incursion. Ending I mean, how do you

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Speaker 2: what does even the end of quote unquote war in

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Speaker 2: Gaza even look like? Because that would require a literal withdrawal.

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Speaker 1: And that's that is the key piece right there. Ryan

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Speaker 1: and Normally had a very interesting guest on yesterday I

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Speaker 1: encourage every ready to listen because what Boebe is hoping

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Speaker 1: is because I mean, I think it's pretty clear Bbe

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Speaker 1: would like Trump to win. The overwhelming majority of Israelis

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Speaker 1: would like Trump to win. Like it's the polling is

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Speaker 1: not even really all that close, and the question isn't okay?

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Speaker 1: You know, at some point the you know, the aggressive

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Speaker 1: level of bombing that we've seen, at some point that

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Speaker 1: ends and then what comes next?

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Speaker 5: And Bbe, in order to keep his.

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Speaker 1: Coalition together, effectively needs to resettle Gaza. Like That's what

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Speaker 1: Ben Gavier and Smotrich very affirmatively want, That's what other

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Speaker 1: LIQUD party ministers have been going to these resettlement conferences.

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Speaker 1: And the concern from Bibi is that Kamala may actually

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Speaker 1: now you can you know, have they drawn any real

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Speaker 1: hard ladlines now at this point noo, but may actually

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Speaker 1: make the moves to keep them from resettling Gaza. And

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Speaker 1: if he's not able to do that, then his coalition

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Speaker 1: effectively falls apart. So we know Trump is He's talked

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Speaker 1: about you know, water for Kushner talked about Gaza's waterfront

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Speaker 1: property and potential development possibilities. We know that Mary Maddilson

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Speaker 1: as part of condition for her overwhelming massive support in

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Speaker 1: dollars for Donald Trump, wants to be able also to

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Speaker 1: annex the West Bank. So, you know, I think part

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Speaker 1: of the game here in terms of what Bibe wants

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Speaker 1: out of this political context is and out of this

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Speaker 1: political contest, is what comes next? Am I allowed to

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Speaker 1: just move forward with resettlement and ethnic cleansing or is

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Speaker 1: there going to be any sort of opposition whatsoever in.

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Speaker 5: The White House to that?

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Speaker 2: I think really what Trump is Trump doesn't care necessarily

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Speaker 2: about that situation. But for him and his people, they

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Speaker 2: just don't want to deal literally with the ongoing war,

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Speaker 2: and so they're like, look, man, you need to speed

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Speaker 2: it up. And by the way, it's beneficial to them

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Speaker 2: because it causes problems for the Democratic candidate. Kamala can't

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Speaker 2: even do an event without getting interrupted by Gaza protests.

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Speaker 2: At this point, Let's go next to jd Vance Spoke

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Speaker 2: made some interesting crypto comments where if you read between

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Speaker 2: the lines, the pro Israel lobby won't be too happy

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Speaker 2: about this one. On the Tim Dillon Show. Let's take

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Speaker 2: a listen to that e too, please.

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Speaker 7: Obviously, you know Israel has the right to defend itself.

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Speaker 7: But America's interest is sometimes going to be distinct, like

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Speaker 7: sometimes we're going to have overlapping interests and sometimes we're

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Speaker 7: going to have distinct interests. And our interest, I think

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Speaker 7: very much is in not going to war with Iran.

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Speaker 7: We recognize, okay, Israeli's Golfareb states don't like Iran. So

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Speaker 7: let the Israelis and the golf Arab states provide the

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Speaker 7: counterbalance to Iran. America does and have to constantly police

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Speaker 7: every region of the world. We should empower people to

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Speaker 7: police their own regions of the world. Right and one.

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Speaker 7: We would save a lot of money too, We'd save

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Speaker 7: a lot of focus. But unfortunately, I think Harris she's

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Speaker 7: got this weird thing where I actually think she kind

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Speaker 7: of likes war. Maybe she feels like she feels like

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Speaker 7: a tough guy about it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it is.

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Speaker 7: But they've actually pursued even though they say they want

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Speaker 7: to minimize Palestinian civilian casualties, they pursued the pathway that

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Speaker 7: maximizes those casualties. They say that they're pro Israel, they've

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Speaker 7: pursued the pathway that has prolonged the war as long

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Speaker 7: as possible, which is bad for Israel, and they seem

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Speaker 7: to be sort of sleep walking US into war with Iran.

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Speaker 2: It's like the dumbest of all possible worlds. Hmm, all right,

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Speaker 2: what did you make of that? Well, it's like a

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Speaker 2: crypto that, by the way, is about as close as

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Speaker 2: you're ever going to get too to some quasi Israel

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Speaker 2: criticism or whatever in a world where Miriam Madelson's shelling

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Speaker 2: out the big dollars buzz I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: True, I mean, I think it is is clear that

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign has been much smarter in pursuing a

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Speaker 1: strategy of trying to persuade key demographic groups that they

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Speaker 1: would that you know, they're a placed that they can

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Speaker 1: go if they're disgusted. Now, I think if we look

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Speaker 1: at Trump's comments, for one thing.

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Speaker 5: They are not in line with They're very different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not in line with what Jad's saying, shall

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Speaker 1: we put it, trying to use this Palestinian as a slur.

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Speaker 1: Trump thinks that Israel should strike Iranian nuclear facilities, which

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Speaker 1: you know, would help to escalate the war in the region.

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Speaker 1: Trump is very hawkish, extremely hawkish because of the Iran

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Speaker 1: when he was president so the idea that he had

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Speaker 1: any instinct towards withdrawing from the region is just you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially in terms of conflict with Iran, is

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Speaker 1: just not really true. Actually, Jade Vance, one of the

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Speaker 1: things in the vetting document was that he was critical

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Speaker 1: of Trump on his assassination of customs solo money.

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Speaker 5: Jad was right about that, by the way.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, when you look at the totality

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Speaker 1: of the mess coming out from the Trump from the

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign, most of it is very much in line

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Speaker 1: with Mary Maddeilson, Rudy Giuliani, Trump himself. You know, the

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Speaker 1: problem is that Biden's holding them back. You don't hear

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Speaker 1: too much of the perspective that's being offered here from

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Speaker 1: jade Vance, where he correctly, by the way, points out

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Speaker 1: that even if you are just narrowly trying to pursue

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Speaker 1: the interests of Israel, this has been damaging. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the country economically has suffered greatly. The governing coalition is

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Speaker 1: you know, constantly on the brink of collapse. You have

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Speaker 1: massive foreign direct investment that is fleeing the country. You

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Speaker 1: have people, human beings who have left the country, and

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Speaker 1: you know, contrary to the idea that all of this

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Speaker 1: war making throughout the region is going to make israelis

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Speaker 1: any safer. It's only put them at more risk because

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Speaker 1: now you still have people who are evacuated from northern

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Speaker 1: Israel who are unable to return and know one insight

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Speaker 1: with that either. So I mean, he is correct in

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Speaker 1: that point. I just don't think that that is the

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Speaker 1: I don't think that that is the view of Trump.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly not the view of Trump's donors. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump is happy to sort of let people go out

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Speaker 1: and freelance whatever they think is going to be effective

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Speaker 1: to appeal to that audience in the moment, doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: reflect any sort.

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Speaker 5: Of a broader ship.

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Speaker 1: But they've been much much more intentional about trying to

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Speaker 1: do you know, the Muslim outreach and the Arab American outreach,

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Speaker 1: especially in the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 5: And that shows and the polling numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. In fact, we have evidence of

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Speaker 2: that strategy. Can we put E four please up on

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Speaker 2: the screen here? You had a letter from Trump. He

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Speaker 2: said to the Lebanese American community, during my administration, we

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Speaker 2: had peace in the Middle East. We will have peace again. Soon.

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Speaker 2: I will fix problems caused by Kamala and stop the

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Speaker 2: suffering and destruction in Lebanon. I want to see the

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Speaker 2: Middle East return to real peace, a lasting piece, and

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Speaker 2: we will get it done properly so it doesn't repeat

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Speaker 2: itself every five or ten years. So that obviously directed

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Speaker 2: at the Michigan American vote. And it's interesting too because

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Speaker 2: the Trump campaign is basically like scrolling through ethnic minorities, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then releasing letters to it, which look, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: the correct way, not the way I would like to

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Speaker 2: see politics. But he had another post where he's like,

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Speaker 2: to all the Coptic Christians out there, I will stand

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Speaker 2: up for you in the Middle East. I will make

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Speaker 2: sure that we will not what was the whole Azerbaijan thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, Ozer by joh Oser a ZERI uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: aggression on between Azerbaijohn and Armenia. But my point is

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Speaker 2: just that he seems to be just scrolling through these

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Speaker 2: like subgroups and just putting out a lever where you

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Speaker 2: know it could it really could be impactful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess if he sees the election that way,

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Speaker 1: then that explains why they don't like the Puerto Rico.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree with you. Again, this is not how

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Speaker 2: I think politics should be, Like do your Lebanese Americans

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Speaker 2: or whatever, let me do policy based on your homeland.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, it's frankly more something that

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Speaker 1: you saw, Like it feels very Democrats in twenty six,

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Speaker 1: like let me put out a letter and have on

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Speaker 1: stage someone from your specific like demographic identity group. Feels

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Speaker 1: like the direction that the Trump campaign is going in.

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Speaker 1: But you know, with regard to Arab Americans, Muslim Americans

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Speaker 1: less so young people who I think you know, are

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Speaker 1: either going to vote for Jill Stein by and large

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Speaker 1: or they're just not going to vote. I think obviously

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Speaker 1: there's a huge opening here that is no one's fault

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Speaker 1: but Kamala Harrison, Joe Biden and the horrific policy that

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Speaker 1: they have pursued, which has been deeply destructive and deeply immoral,

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Speaker 1: and which she has been unable to separate herself on.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, you have people like Bill Clinton

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Speaker 1: who go out there and say the things that he says,

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Speaker 1: and it's not really even though he said the quiet

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Speaker 1: part out loud, but his comments are perfectly in line

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Speaker 1: with the Biden administration strategy and the way that they've

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Speaker 1: approached things like that is the position is Israel always,

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Speaker 1: no matter or what Israel does, we'll stand by them.

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Speaker 1: It's always that self defense. It's never their fault. The

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Speaker 1: civilian death is never their fault. They bear absolutely no

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Speaker 1: culpability whatsoever, even and we bear no culpability even though

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Speaker 1: it's our bombs being sent, et cetera, et cetera. So

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill Clinton is out there effectively articulating, just

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Speaker 1: in a more clear cut fashion, what the actual policy

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Speaker 1: of Biden Harris has been.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, let's move on to Stop the Steal. Wanted to

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Speaker 2: do this segment. We'll round it out today. We think

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Speaker 2: we will try and make this a consistent part of

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Speaker 2: the theme if Trump does end up losing the election.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to hear a lot more about this.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things you did last time back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenties, we just went through every single, like

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Speaker 2: major claim around stop the Steal, every lawsuit, what the

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Speaker 2: adjudication was, what the litigation looks like, what the judge ruling,

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Speaker 2: what the claims. So we're going to start first with

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump He made some comments while he was doing

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Speaker 2: the garbage thing around the election. Let's take a list so.

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Speaker 5: From statuside which heart would be defatient, but not say

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Speaker 5: that the election was stolen.

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Speaker 4: It was if it was a corrupt election, that could happen.

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Speaker 6: But so far we're doing pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: They found a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of smaller things in Pennsylvania's you know, and I think

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Speaker 4: they've been corrupted and uh and taken care of they

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Speaker 4: were they were corrupt. They were corrupted, but I think

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Speaker 4: it's been taken care of.

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Speaker 2: You called for law enforcement. I was gonna say, you

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Speaker 2: anticipate to declare victory on election night. I hope they're

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Speaker 2: we're going to declare victory. I mean they spend all

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Speaker 2: that money on machines.

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Speaker 3: Paper ballots goes to eight percent, a water machine goes

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Speaker 3: eight percent.

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Speaker 2: All right, so there you go, and said maybe, you know,

655
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Speaker 2: in terms of we'll look out for if it's a

656
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Speaker 2: corrupt election, but I don't think it'll be a corrupt election.

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Speaker 1: Nonetheless, there also he also put out on true social

658
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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is cheating and getting caught at large scale levels

659
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Speaker 1: rarely seen before. Report cheating to authorities. Law enforcement must

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Speaker 1: act now. So I mean, you know, we laid out

661
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Speaker 1: the he is clearly and Republicans in general are trying

662
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Speaker 1: to lay the groundwork of like this if we don't win.

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Speaker 1: It was stolen, right, it was rigged, And there's a

664
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Speaker 1: lot more concerted effort in advance to lay that groundwork

665
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Speaker 1: than there was last time around. You can go watch

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Speaker 1: our segment about how this could all go down, the

667
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Speaker 1: things that make it. You know, this sort of premeditated

668
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Speaker 1: and very well funded. By the way effort in advance

669
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Speaker 1: is something that is actually worse than last time around.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, you know, the Electoral Account Act.

671
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is not the president of the United States,

672
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Speaker 1: so that puts, you know, a lot on the other

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Speaker 1: side of the scale. But it's very clear what he's

674
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Speaker 1: trying to lay the groundwork to do, which you know,

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Speaker 1: also with regards to this Pennsylvania thing, and Pennsylvania has

676
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Speaker 1: been a big focus on the right side, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: e's seen as well, Like you know, this kind of

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Speaker 1: bit them in the ass previously in Georgia when they

679
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Speaker 1: were running in these runoff elections, both of which they

680
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Speaker 1: lost after Trump had just lost because there was so

681
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Speaker 1: much conversation about how the vote had been rigged and

682
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Speaker 1: the election was stolen, et cetera, et cetera, that they

683
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Speaker 1: depressed their own turnout because people felt like, oh, well,

684
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Speaker 1: if it's just going to be stolen, like why bother

685
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Speaker 1: vote whatsoever. So there is a risk in advance, too,

686
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Speaker 1: of trying to in advance convinced voters that like, oh,

687
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Speaker 1: this thing is rigged and people are cheating at large

688
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Speaker 1: scale levels rarely seen before.

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Speaker 2: As Trump says in his true social press Right, So

690
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Speaker 2: let's go through. So did a roundup on social media

691
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Speaker 2: of all the big controversions. We're going to start with

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Speaker 2: this one. Let's put this up there from Michigan. This

693
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Speaker 2: is from the Michigan Secretary of State, Joscelyn Benson. Now,

694
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Speaker 2: according to the Secretary of State of Michigan, there are

695
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Speaker 2: quote issues with dominion voter access terminals and counties that

696
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Speaker 2: use them. In the voter access terminal, specifically, it appears

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Speaker 2: with the terminals that are handicapped assisting. Now, voters using

698
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Speaker 2: this on election day will either have to vote straight

699
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Speaker 2: ticket or manualists put their ballot. Unlike how Michigan voters

700
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Speaker 2: usually have the option to select straight party option and

701
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Speaker 2: then override their party selection for certain races. Benson said

702
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Speaker 2: that this was an issue that has frustrated officials in

703
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Speaker 2: places where these machines are used. Quote. I think all

704
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Speaker 2: of us who use MISSI dominion machines were unhappy to

705
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Speaker 2: learn about this during the testing period as early voting began.

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Speaker 2: So we are working to seek accountability on that front

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Speaker 2: and working with our clerks to ensure voters are aware

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Speaker 2: of this programming issue. Again, this appears to be what

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Speaker 2: is it in the assisted ballot casting part of the

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Speaker 2: area from early voting, So it's not all but of

711
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Speaker 2: course wanted to go ahead and flag it here, and

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Speaker 2: it is one that has already been acknowledged by the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State, of course, and then also has been

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Speaker 2: a nationwide thing that said I don't know, you can

715
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Speaker 2: look at it either way. People sent it and were like, well,

716
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Speaker 2: this is evidence that there's problems. I'm like, yeah, But

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Speaker 2: I mean, if your evidence of a quote unquote problem

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Speaker 2: or cheating, why would then the Secretary of State come

719
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Speaker 2: out and acknowledge it and say that we are working

720
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Speaker 2: on it. So look, nobody's going to sit here and

721
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Speaker 2: claim that there's no issues or whatever. But it almost

722
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Speaker 2: seems like the opposite where they're coming out acknowledging in

723
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Speaker 2: the future talking about this quote unquote fix and exactly

724
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Speaker 2: which type of ballots it can affect. So regardless, you

725
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Speaker 2: can just say that's the explanation for what it is,

726
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Speaker 2: and if it comes, you know, in the future a

727
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Speaker 2: subject to some loss or whatever, this is the origin.

728
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a great point. It's also not clear

729
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Speaker 1: which side this would theoretically benefit. The idea is just

730
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Speaker 1: like it makes it those particular machines make it more

731
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Speaker 1: difficult to split ticket instead of just straight D or

732
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Speaker 1: straight R. So again it's not really even clear which

733
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Speaker 1: side that would potentially benefit. But it just makes it

734
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Speaker 1: more cumbersome for people who are voting at these disabled

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Speaker 1: access terminals, which is unfortunate but not cheating.

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Speaker 5: It's just like more cumbersome for them.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's smart that she announced this in

738
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Speaker 1: advance to sort of pre but any potential allegations after

739
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Speaker 1: the fact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. But yeah, by the way, an election to

741
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Speaker 2: election lecture for election people just say it all out

742
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Speaker 2: in the future and avoid the mess of next time.

743
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the next part. Let's put this up

744
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: there on the screen. This was another big one. You

745
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: probably saw it everywhere ABC News sixteen WNEP the affiliate

746
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: people were saying, look, they already called it for Kamala Harris. Well,

747
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Speaker 2: the alleged response or the reason for why they had

748
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Speaker 2: this what was a reporting for Harris and Trump that

749
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Speaker 2: showed up in the middle of a Formula one race

750
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Speaker 2: on ESPN ABC affiliate was that there was some graphics

751
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Speaker 2: testing package that they were doing that appeared to have

752
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Speaker 2: up on the screen. I also think we should just interrogate,

753
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Speaker 2: like the We should just interrogate the thought process here, Like,

754
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Speaker 2: is the thought process that the media is going to

755
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Speaker 2: rig the election by pre calling it for Harris and

756
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Speaker 2: they're going to work then with the Secretary of State

757
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Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania to just put up fake numbers. And why

758
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Speaker 2: would you then do a dry run ahead of time?

759
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Speaker 2: Like what is the logical explant? This is where the

760
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: low IQ nature of this stuff honestly just driving me crazy.

761
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Speaker 2: What is more likely a graphics thing or a concerted

762
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Speaker 2: effort by w NEP to pre call the election? Like

763
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Speaker 2: what world do you think living in here? All right?

764
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Speaker 2: And look, I already know there's gonna be some butt

765
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Speaker 2: hurt Republicans in the comments being like ooh, fake whatever.

766
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: But it's like, look, be real with yourself. If you

767
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Speaker 2: believe that, honestly, you're an idiot, Like I don't know

768
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Speaker 2: what else to tell you. Yeah, if you really believe

769
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Speaker 2: that that is a concerted effort to like steal the

770
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Speaker 2: election by WNP ABC affiliate who put up the wrong graphic.

771
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Speaker 2: Because local news graphics teams are of course the most

772
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Speaker 2: crack in the business. I'm just like, what are we

773
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Speaker 2: doing here? Is this just me working and working here

774
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Speaker 2: to know? So obviously, how many times do you watch

775
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Speaker 2: the show and the wrong graphic goes up on.

776
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Speaker 1: This right, as people who have put up for wrong

777
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Speaker 1: graphics plenty of times in the room, no offense, It's true.

778
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Speaker 1: It happens the best of us. As someone who's been

779
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Speaker 1: part of network like MSNBC election coverage, all of the networks,

780
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Speaker 1: you know, they preload fake election results in order to

781
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Speaker 1: test out like how it looks state by state and

782
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Speaker 1: make sure there's stuff is running. In fact, we just

783
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Speaker 1: did a test here, Mac and Griffin did a test

784
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Speaker 1: of our election graphics literally yesterday, guys.

785
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Speaker 2: And it could have been mistakenly put on YouTube, you know,

786
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Speaker 2: only they uploaded uploaded.

787
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Speaker 1: They uploaded the clip but for you know, I guess

788
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Speaker 1: private or whatever only, but you know, very easy to

789
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Speaker 1: accidentally click the wrong thing and it goes public and

790
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Speaker 1: then oh my god, we're part of the election conspiracy.

791
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Speaker 1: So just to ask yourself, Aukham's razor, which is more likely.

792
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Speaker 1: At the same time, we have had some a few

793
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Speaker 1: wild incidents occurring at polling stations during the early vote.

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Speaker 5: We can put this up on the screen.

795
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Speaker 1: A machete wielding young Trump supporter was arrested on a

796
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Speaker 1: variety of charges for menacing people who were going to vote.

797
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Speaker 1: Believe this occurred in Florida, so they held a Neptune

798
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Speaker 1: Beach Police Department held a media briefing following the rest

799
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Speaker 1: of man in connection with an armed disturbance that occurred

800
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Speaker 1: at the Beaches Branch Library, a polling location. You can

801
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Speaker 1: see him there with the Trump signs and the machete

802
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Speaker 1: and I don't know what he thought he was doing,

803
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Speaker 1: but it was pretty, uh, menacing, stupid and illegal.

804
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Speaker 2: So he was arrested.

805
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Speaker 5: Good work with that, so and he was arrested.

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Speaker 2: He was arrested.

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Speaker 1: This one, Yeah, this is really wild. Put this up

808
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Speaker 1: on the screen. So this dude who ran for I

809
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Speaker 1: believe Congress. Yes in uh this is Kansas City. So

810
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Speaker 1: former GOP candidate he stole ballots in They describe a

811
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Speaker 1: scheme to create controversy so effectively, he got invited because

812
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Speaker 1: he's sort of like a local you know, guys well known,

813
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Speaker 1: he ran for Congress, etcetera, et cetera. So he got

814
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Speaker 1: invited to this public test they were doing of their

815
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Speaker 1: election system. Part of the test was to demonstrate to

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Speaker 1: the public, like, this is all clean and free and fair,

817
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: and we've got an organized system, et cetera. So he

818
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Speaker 1: goes to this test and it was livestream the whole thing,

819
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Speaker 1: so people could see everything that was happening, which is

820
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Speaker 1: how he got caught. And he stole two ballots, folded

821
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Speaker 1: them up and put them in his pocket, and then

822
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Speaker 1: starts whispering to someone like, oh, the count of the

823
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Speaker 1: ballots is wrong.

824
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Speaker 5: I think they're missing some ballots, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: After he was the one who stole the ballots, and

826
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Speaker 1: since it was on the live stream, he got caught.

827
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Speaker 1: But before he was caught and people went back through

828
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Speaker 1: the live stream and saw this all happen, he went

829
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Speaker 1: on a Facebook live and was talking about how, oh,

830
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Speaker 1: there's election fraud and there's short multiple ballots, blah blah blah.

831
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Speaker 1: Again because he's the one that stole the ballots. So

832
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Speaker 1: this was an effort to, you know, try to create

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Speaker 1: a narrative about how the election's rigged and it's stolen

834
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Speaker 1: and you can't trust the results blah blah blah.

835
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Speaker 5: And this guy got caught.

836
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Speaker 1: Red handed being the one doing the ballot manipulation and

837
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Speaker 1: you know, stealing these ballots during the test.

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Speaker 5: So amazing stuff.

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Speaker 2: Two more election updates. There was one that came out

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Speaker 2: of Michigan. There was allegedly there was some one voter

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Speaker 2: id where multiple voter IDs have been linked to duplicate

842
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Speaker 2: ballots in Michigan. The Michigan Secretary of State is confirmed

843
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Speaker 2: to the RNC that those duplicates will not be counted,

844
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Speaker 2: and it was a glitch in the system. You know,

845
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Speaker 2: if anything, the infrastructure at this point for election integrity

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Speaker 2: and all that is so gigantic on the Republican side,

847
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Speaker 2: hundreds of billions of dollars have now been spent on

848
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Speaker 2: this with watchdogs, lawsuits, lawsuits, lawyers and all these other

849
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Speaker 2: people that they are watching and investigating almost every single thing,

850
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Speaker 2: so we will continue to do so, and in almost

851
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Speaker 2: every case you're either been responsive or whatever, or it

852
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: just turned out to be total bullshit. The other one

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Speaker 2: that has come up now is the judge has extended

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Speaker 2: mail balloting in Bucks County. There was a whole lawsuit

855
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Speaker 2: about this. I just thought I would mention it where

856
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Speaker 2: they were trying to close early voting at I think

857
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Speaker 2: it was a deadline of five pm on October twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: The judge their rule that violated Pennsylvania election Code and

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Speaker 2: that they will then extend normal early voting for normal

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Speaker 2: business hours before the close of business on November one.

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Speaker 2: So I guess you still have a day and a

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Speaker 2: half or so to go and to take it advantage of

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Speaker 2: that they are in terms of the timeframe. I think

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Speaker 2: they also limited it from eight am to five pm.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, there you go, so look into that if

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Speaker 2: you live in Bucks County, PA. Beautiful place by the way,

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Speaker 2: New Hope, Pennsylvania. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think overall, one thing we noted last time is

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Speaker 1: that the election apparatus really is a patchwork. You really

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Speaker 1: are dependent on these individual local counties to run this election.

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Speaker 1: And so of course there are going to be anomalies.

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Speaker 1: There are going to be glitches. There are go every election,

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Speaker 1: there's you know, people are upset because they had to

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Speaker 1: wait in line too long or they feel that you know,

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Speaker 1: there's always there are every election, there are going to

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Speaker 1: be some issues that crop up because it's human beings

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Speaker 1: trying to do a thing on mass and jurisdictions across

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Speaker 1: the entire country at a time of a lot of

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Speaker 1: heightened anxiety, tension, et cetera. So just take all of

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Speaker 1: that in because there is something that is you know,

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Speaker 1: goes awry or whatever, they don't have enough ballots, whatever happens,

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Speaker 1: that is not evidence of a mass coordinated scheme.

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Speaker 5: It's evidence that human beings.

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Speaker 1: Are fallible and there are there will be some technical

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Speaker 1: issues in glitches on election day. That is I can

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Speaker 1: tell you with one hundred percent the case.

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Speaker 2: Right, and ye, look, if it does look connected, if

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Speaker 2: you can prove it, send me the evidence. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see it. Please. I beg you to send it

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Speaker 2: to me. If we give it's the story of the century.

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Speaker 2: If you could prove it, send it. I'll take a look. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then just last thing on that, because everyone's always

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Speaker 2: like going Oh, why can't we be like Brazil or

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Speaker 2: France or India. Well, because we have this little thing

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Speaker 2: called federalism. So you should ask yourself, do you really

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Speaker 2: want the federal government to run all elections in this country?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, No, we don't want that. I don't want

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Speaker 2: that at least us. Well that's well, that's a different

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Speaker 2: story in terms of rule, but I'm saying in terms

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Speaker 2: of running it, you're running the overall election. That's a

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Speaker 2: terrible idea and is the absolute antithesis of the electoral

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Speaker 2: college and specifically of federalism itself. So that's how it's

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Speaker 2: always been. I think it's probably better, if anything, the

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Speaker 2: decentral system certainly as its annoyances in terms of why

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Speaker 2: it takes forever and all of that. But the alternative,

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Speaker 2: you know, in a French or an Indian or whatever system,

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Speaker 2: is that the government itself is the one that runs it,

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Speaker 2: which obviously is a massive conflict of interest there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, indeed, But yeah, I would like I personally

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Speaker 1: would like to see federal set like consistent rules institute

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Speaker 1: across the jurisdiction so that everybody has.

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Speaker 5: The same rules when it comes to mail in ballot

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Speaker 5: or Yeah, voter early, in person, voterize.

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Speaker 1: Like let's just have yeah, the convicted, you know, felons, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's just have it be standard so that you don't

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Speaker 1: have the right to vote in one state but not

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Speaker 1: have the right to vote in another, which I personally

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Speaker 1: think is preposterous, but in any case, that's.

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Speaker 2: The system we have. All right, Uh, that was fun.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Ron Emily, We're going to do a little remote like

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Speaker 1: election preview thing so we can break down whatever comes

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Speaker 1: out today, latest polls, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: So make sure to join us for that.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we'll see then.