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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, here we go unveiling a new product, very

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Speaker 1: exciting hour two on a Thursday, live in Chicago. It's

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Speaker 1: The Herd. Rachel Nichols around the corner. Okay, So I've

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Speaker 1: been talking about this for two or three days. So

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Speaker 1: the past ten or eleven months, I have been working

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Speaker 1: with really smart people in our tech department at Fox

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Speaker 1: and we developed something.

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Speaker 2: We took a couple of years of all of my.

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Speaker 1: Shows, a poor app, and we downloaded all my shows.

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Speaker 1: It's called Sports AI and you can find it. It

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Speaker 1: just launched on the Fox Sports app, so there it

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Speaker 1: is right there, and they have downloaded every show of

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Speaker 1: mine for the last two years. So it has my cadence.

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Speaker 1: I think stylistically, it sounded like me when I first

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Speaker 1: heard that. It was really raw. When I first heard

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Speaker 1: it ten months ago, I just started laughing. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was the craziest thing I'd ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 1: You could ask it questions. It gives amazing answers, much

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Speaker 1: like this show does. And so you get the facts,

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Speaker 1: you get the opinions. Just go to the app. Ask

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Speaker 1: me anything you want about sports and you'll get me,

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Speaker 1: or the AI version of me. So to give you

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Speaker 1: a little bit of an example of how it works again,

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Speaker 1: it's called Sports AI and it's on the Fox Sports app.

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Speaker 1: You can download the app. I think he'll get a

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Speaker 1: good laugh out of it. So, j Mac, let's give

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Speaker 1: the audience a sense of how this puppy works.

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Speaker 3: All right, Conle, let's get it started.

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Speaker 2: Every play, every stat, every storyline. I've got it all.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to know?

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Speaker 3: Will Fernando Mendoza be a franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza can be a franchise quarterback because he wins

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Speaker 1: from the neck up. He's accurate, he processes fast, he

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Speaker 1: protects the football, and he's already shown he's comfortable in

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Speaker 1: the biggest moments. But he's not the off schedule superhero type.

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Speaker 1: So the team that drafts him has to give him

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Speaker 1: real playmakers and a real structure. If you're expecting magic tricks,

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Speaker 1: you'll be disappointed. If you want a steady, high level operator,

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Speaker 1: you'll be thrilled. Me do you want your quarterback to

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Speaker 1: be a system driver or a system breaker?

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Why does Colin like Sam Darnald so much?

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Speaker 1: Colin likes Sam Darnald because he's the ultimate tools plus

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Speaker 1: toughness quarterback, big arm, real athlete, and he doesn't melt

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Speaker 1: when the pocket gets muddy. And Colin's always been a

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Speaker 2: That's Donald's whole story.

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Speaker 1: Plus, when you put him with real coaching and a

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Speaker 1: real structure, the ceiling shows up fast. Seattle just got

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Speaker 1: the proof and the ring. That's the bet.

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Speaker 2: Talent was never the issue, the environment was. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to take tomorrow off, give me one more.

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Speaker 3: What type of college football coach would j mac be.

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Speaker 2: Amac is?

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Speaker 1: A college football coach is a culture first CEO type,

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Speaker 1: recruiting relationships and accountability. Then he hires a sharp play

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Speaker 1: caller and lets that guy cook. He'd run a grown

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Speaker 1: up program with older, tougher players because in this era

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Speaker 1: program builder? Yeah, that one ain't may have missed on.

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Speaker 1: But so it's called Sports AI. I want you to

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Speaker 1: download it. It's on the Fox Sports app. Ask it

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Speaker 1: any sports question. So we've been playing around with this thing.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy. I mean it's listen. I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: There's all these doomsday scenarios with AI, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving off my realtor. I don't care how

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Speaker 1: And that's why Fox came to me with this. They're like,

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Speaker 1: and you can just ask you questions about your Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: Eagles or the United States men's national hockey or soccer team,

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Speaker 2: Jmac.

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Speaker 1: Rachel is joining us live and covering the NBA for

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Speaker 2: Years, and that was gonna that was something, right. That's

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Speaker 4: That's what's so incredible. I expected it to sound a

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Speaker 4: little more robotic. It doesn't. It actually feels like talking

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're working on a structure in which I can

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Speaker 1: has been an interesting week. And I kind of joked

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Speaker 1: yesterday the Lakers didn't know when they rolled out the

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Speaker 1: red carpet for Luga it was made of red flags.

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Speaker 1: And we always knew he wasn't a great defensive player.

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Speaker 1: But for the record, there have been Magic Johnson wasn't

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Speaker 1: a great defensive player. Steph Curry wasn't you build around him.

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Speaker 1: But there's the jawing with the officials. There is the

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Speaker 1: to it. His game is a bit lobsided. It's all offense,

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Speaker 1: It's surfaced for a couple of reasons, the barking and

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Speaker 1: there's an argument a year in that Lebron and Luca

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there is a big sort of let's

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Speaker 5: And while the Lakers have said Lebron is welcome back

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Speaker 5: in the organization, it's very clear that building around Luca.

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Speaker 4: Does not involve Lebron James.

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Speaker 5: And you can talk about it defensively, of course, when Luca,

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Speaker 5: I mean Luca modeled his game after Lebron's Literally it

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Speaker 5: of the same things, frankly, and we know what kind

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Speaker 5: of team you need to build around Luca. That's the

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Speaker 5: team that we saw get to the NBA Finals with him.

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Speaker 5: So I don't really blame some sort of the lazy

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Speaker 5: because I think everyone's mind on that team is we're

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Speaker 5: all know we're not finals contenders right now. Let's get

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Speaker 5: to the summer where they're going to have three first

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Speaker 5: that looks like than any other team in the league

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Speaker 5: around fifty million dollars, and that is with resigning Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 4: That is without Lebron James though.

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Speaker 5: So if he doesn't re sign with the Lakers, then

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Speaker 4: You have the ability to really build.

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Speaker 5: The kind of team around Luca that you might have

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Speaker 5: envisioned when that trade was first made.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: You try to be you don't want to be inelegant

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Speaker 1: moving off Lebron. He's delivered, He's been great for sales.

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Speaker 1: He got him a COVID title. You know, he's always

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Speaker 1: said the right stuff publicly. He's never high He may

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think they have to if Lebron

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Speaker 5: to be a pretty serious conversation with the Lakers, not

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Speaker 5: but roll right, because as I said, when those three

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Speaker 5: out NBA Finals games with three defensive liabilities like that

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Speaker 2: It won't work.

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Speaker 5: So are you saying to Lebron, hey man, I don't

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Speaker 5: I mean, there may be a conversation that is delicate

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Speaker 5: me look into see what Cleveland's offering me that kind

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Speaker 1: So you and I are on the same page in

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Speaker 1: the tanking, which is you know, and I've always felt

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Speaker 1: because it's overwhelmingly a winter league, that they all want

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Speaker 1: giving up avenues. How Like, it's not a transactional league

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Speaker 1: much anymore. So the NBA Rachel has kind of decided abruptly,

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Speaker 1: we're going to spank Indiana and Utah. And what's the

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Speaker 1: reaction you're kind of getting because Utah feels like they're

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Speaker 5: I mean, Utah's tanking was pretty egregious. You see your

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Speaker 5: I don't really subscribe to the Sunshine theory quite the

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Speaker 5: it has as much to do with Sunshine as it

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Speaker 5: It could be this first team, just because Victor and

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Speaker 1: You know I would draft him number one. I've watched

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Speaker 5: What is really going on here?

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Speaker 4: Why are you doing this? And so I.

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Speaker 5: Think his interviews with the top teams in the draft

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Speaker 5: I think teams obviously are going to work him out,

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Speaker 3: AI can't answer this one. AJ Brown drama in Philadelphia, Colin.

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Speaker 3: It continues, however, Mike Vrabel in New England knows him well.

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Speaker 7: We reach out text each other during the things that

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Speaker 1: Hmm.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, I don't know, as almost as interesting as that

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Colin. It almost seems too obvious, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs is going through another drama. All that guy

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Speaker 1: I mean I never understood when the Dolphins said, let's

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But if I told you it's third year Drake May,

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Speaker 3: Not many people can't. All right, let's go to the

436
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Speaker 3: Raiders and the number one pick. We know this, like

437
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Speaker 3: the draft, does not have a lot of drama at

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Speaker 3: the top. Everybody loves Mendoza. The Raiders have not shown

439
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Speaker 3: their hand fully yet about Mendoza, but Clint Kubiak spoke

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Speaker 3: pretty glowingly about it. I think it's a lock that

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Speaker 3: they're gonna take him. Here's Kubiak, Colin.

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Speaker 8: Excited to keep keep learning about him.

443
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Speaker 2: And it's not just me it's you know.

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Speaker 8: Our whole coaching staff are quarterback coach, and you know,

445
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Speaker 8: I want all of our coaches to get involved a

446
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Speaker 8: speciale at that position. I don't want everybody's input, but

447
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Speaker 8: you know, obviously, really he's been a successful had a

448
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Speaker 8: lot of success.

449
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Speaker 9: Last year.

450
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Speaker 8: He's won a national championship. And that's what you want,

451
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Speaker 8: is you want a winner.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well you also want a big guy that's committed

453
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Speaker 1: and stays healthy with an accurate arm. And that's what

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Speaker 1: you really get, the winner thing. You know, there's a

455
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Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks that win. You know, JJ McCarthy won

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Speaker 1: a lot. I think what Mendoza brings to the table

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Speaker 1: that a JJ McCarthy, for instance, didn't, is that late

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Speaker 1: in games Mendoza carried his offense.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, McCarthy won a national championship. Guess an

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Speaker 3: Alabama team in overtime.

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Speaker 1: He was McCarthy never carried the team. He threw for

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards once. That's not carrying a team. Mendoza's

463
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Speaker 1: carrying a team. He carried them to a win over

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Speaker 1: Penn State in Miami. Yeah, he's been asked. In Iowa

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Speaker 1: Oregon tie game, late they had to throw the football

466
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Speaker 1: they trailed.

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Speaker 2: That's a whole different.

468
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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy turned around with the best O line in

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Speaker 1: football and Jim Harbaugh in a great defense and handed

470
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Speaker 1: the ball to Blake Corum a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, that's fair. But he did have a huge

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Speaker 3: game against Bama in the playoff, right, remember that one

473
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Speaker 3: he was.

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Speaker 2: He saw Mendoza.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I I do think Mendoza's probably I'm

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Speaker 3: with you. He's probably a better NFL prospect than McCarthy, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think he's Miles. I think he's bigger. I

478
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Speaker 1: think he's more accurate. I think he's been asked to

479
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Speaker 1: basically carry the offense in big games. They both had

480
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Speaker 1: a great college coach. I don't think it's I think

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Speaker 1: Mendoza is the only first round quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 1: I do think if you don't have to play him immediately,

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Speaker 1: I could see somebody reaching eighteen down on ty Simpson.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him as a Day one starter. I

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Speaker 1: think ty Simpson has to say it's why the Rams

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Speaker 1: in the first round. Everybody keeps saying the Rams and

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Speaker 1: ty Simpson because Stafford's going to sign a new two

488
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Speaker 1: year deal. So that makes sense. If you can learn

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Speaker 1: from one of the all time great pros. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Stafford's preparation work ethic are kind of legendary, like Brady,

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Speaker 1: that'd be a great place. But Mendoza, to me, is

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Speaker 1: kind of it in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would big time agree on that one. All right,

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Speaker 3: let's wrap up with some good news from the UFL

495
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Speaker 3: COLU and they announce some rule changes earlier this week.

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Speaker 3: One of the rules that we love here is the

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Speaker 3: now one foot catches a la college football, so amazing

498
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Speaker 3: efforts where you can't get both feet down doesn't matter,

499
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Speaker 3: just get one foot down and it counts. I would

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Speaker 3: love to see the NFL in act this. The UFL's

501
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Speaker 3: head of officiating, Dean Blandino said, we look at the

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Speaker 3: NFL as a partner. I just wonder if this is

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Speaker 3: a test bunny for the NFL. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a huge hit in the UFL. Would you agree, Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, remember when they altered the catch rule,

507
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Speaker 1: and the reason they altered the hatch rule.

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Speaker 2: You remember this is.

509
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Speaker 1: That Roger Goodell came on the show and it's like,

510
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Speaker 1: if somebody makes an absolutely unbelievable play, you don't want

511
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Speaker 1: to eliminate that from the sport, right it's I mean,

512
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Speaker 1: like even for fantasy football players, you want people to

513
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Speaker 1: celebrate greatness, not go to a replay and try to

514
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Speaker 1: figure out on microfilm if they had the second toe down,

515
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Speaker 1: So what it would do with one foot down. There'd

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Speaker 1: be more catches and more touchdowns. And I never think

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Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. I want less field goals, fewer punts,

518
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Speaker 1: fewer kickoff returns.

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Speaker 3: Let's replay review like didn't get down?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's the bottom line is it

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Speaker 1: would cut It would increase touchdowns and catches, and it

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Speaker 1: would shorten a lot. I mean, if you think about reviews,

523
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Speaker 1: it's usually like fumble in a pile or is he

524
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Speaker 1: in bounds with a cat? You go a long way

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Speaker 1: and speeding and ramping that up. So I'm kind.

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Speaker 2: Of with you on this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally agree.

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Speaker 2: Jmack.

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Speaker 6: With the news, well that's the news, and thanks for

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Speaker 6: stopping by the herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: I've got I thought Rachel Nichols made a really interesting

532
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Speaker 1: point on tanking, and so I was reading an article

533
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Speaker 1: in the Athletic this morning about how Oklahoma City got

534
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Speaker 1: chet Holmgrin by tanking and the Cavs got brawd by tanking,

535
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Speaker 1: and what I've always felt like the bottom of the NBA,

536
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Speaker 1: the NBA is paralyzed, completely paralyzed by tanking, and we're

537
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Speaker 1: gonna have ping pong balls and we're going to find

538
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Speaker 1: teams that tank. The NBA's bigger problem is they make

539
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: it so hard to trade. You have to have matching salaries.

540
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Speaker 1: You don't in football, you don't in baseball, right like baseball.

541
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Speaker 1: Too often I hear this argument that you got to

542
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: have a salary cap. No, you have to have a

543
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: higher salary floor, forcing the Pirates and the Marlins to

544
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: spend ninety to one hundred million dollars. It's not about

545
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: limiting what the Dodgers can do or the Cubs can do.

546
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Speaker 1: The NBA worries so much about the bottom of the league,

547
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Speaker 1: and they've been trying to solve it since I started

548
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: watching the NBA in the seventies, and they've never solved it.

549
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Speaker 1: The bottom of the NBA, my entire life has been unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: What is the only and it's often the same teams, Well,

551
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Speaker 1: what is a way for the unwatchable bottom eight in

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Speaker 1: the NBA to be watchable? To get a great player. Well,

553
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Speaker 1: a lot of great players don't want to play in Utah.

554
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Speaker 1: I mean, go, what's the biggest free agent signing in

555
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Speaker 1: the history of the Jazz Carlos Boozer. He would be

556
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Speaker 1: like nineteenth biggest for the Lakers. A lot of guys

557
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Speaker 1: want to plan Miami or La in Arizona or Houston,

558
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: and as do they want to plan big cities. They

559
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Speaker 1: want to play in a Boston or in New York

560
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Speaker 1: or a Philadelphia. They just do so. To me, the

561
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: issue with the NBA is stop being so deeply worried

562
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Speaker 1: about tanking. It's not working. Like in baseball, you've got

563
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Speaker 1: a bottom. But that's just owners who won't spend money,

564
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Speaker 1: but have it. That's a solvable problem. Have a minimum

565
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Speaker 1: you have to spend. It's just really possible in a

566
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Speaker 1: sport basketball where one or two players have the ability

567
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Speaker 1: to alter the trajectory of a franchise for the records. Football,

568
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Speaker 1: same thing. Get the right coach, quarterback changes your franchise

569
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Speaker 1: as the Bears or the Patriots. But I think the

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Speaker 1: reason the tanking thing is such a high but an issue,

571
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Speaker 1: it's like, wow, it's not cheating. It's not it's not

572
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Speaker 1: cheating it's not fixing. It's just like, we're gonna play

573
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Speaker 1: more reserves late in games. Well, if that's the only

574
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Speaker 1: way I can get Darren Peterson from Kansas, at least

575
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Speaker 1: bad team becomes better and somebody else can be at

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Speaker 1: the bottom.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's Rachel Nichols. She and I mostly agree on the

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Speaker 1: tanking issue.

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Speaker 4: Tanking isn't the problem. Tanking is the symptom.

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Speaker 5: The problem is bad teams need more avenues to get better.

582
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Speaker 5: And to me, frankly, some of the quote solutions that

583
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Speaker 5: are being thrown out there for tanking, it may be

584
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Speaker 5: treating a little bit of the symptom, but it's gonna

585
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Speaker 5: make the underlying problem worse. No team is sitting there

586
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Speaker 5: being like, you know, what would be great. It would

587
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Speaker 5: be great if we just like lost for six months straight,

588
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Speaker 5: alienated our fans, taught our young guys how to lose.

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Speaker 4: Let's do that. That would be fun.

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Speaker 5: They're doing it because they have to, not because they

591
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Speaker 5: want to make them.

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Speaker 4: Not have to as much, And you're going to solve

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Speaker 4: that problem.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, it's almost like sometimes I think

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Speaker 1: it's it's similar, not perfectly analogous, but it's like parenting,

596
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Speaker 1: like I when I had my kids, I'm not going

597
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Speaker 1: to be paralyzed by it. They may smoke pot, like

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Speaker 1: I'd prefer they aren't waking bakers, you know, I'd prefer

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Speaker 1: they don't. But I'm not gonna literally a helicopter sneak

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Speaker 1: in their rooms and sneak around and like if they do,

601
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Speaker 1: you know, it's it's eventually, it may happen. They'll pick

602
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Speaker 1: friends that like it. But what am I to go

603
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Speaker 1: to college? What am I going to monitor them in college?

604
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Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna lose a lot of sleep on it.

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Speaker 1: I prefer, you know, I can show them, you know,

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Speaker 1: you probably until your brain's completely formed at twenty four

607
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Speaker 1: to twenty five, i'd probably stay away from but you know,

608
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: dad a couple of times in college.

609
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Speaker 2: To relieve stress, you know, once twice.

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Speaker 1: And that's my point is I just don't gonna get

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Speaker 1: paralyzed about that as a parent.

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Speaker 2: Like the NBA is just paralyzed with tanking. A.

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Speaker 1: It's been happening forever, and B how else is Utah

614
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Speaker 1: because free agents aren't interested? How else is Utah a

615
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Speaker 1: great basketball community with a great owner, a great arena.

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Speaker 1: I've been to games multiple times, a great downtown. How

617
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Speaker 1: are they gonna get great? And I'll be honest with you,

618
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Speaker 1: if you look at right now what Utah has. They're

619
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Speaker 1: about one star player away from being really interesting. Well,

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Speaker 1: how are they gonna.

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Speaker 2: Get Darreon Peterson?

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Speaker 1: I mean, so it's people say, well, it's it's not competitive.

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Speaker 1: Sports should be competitive. No, it is competitive. You're still competing,

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Speaker 1: You're just not having Laura marketing. Lori marketed on the

625
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Speaker 1: court in the fourth quarter for a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: Rick Rick Carlisle, the coach of the Indiana Pacers, he

627
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Speaker 1: didn't like these spines handed out to his Pacers and

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Speaker 1: the Jazz.

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Speaker 9: During the interview process. I was not on it, but

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Speaker 9: I but I heard details. We asked them if they

631
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Speaker 9: wanted to talk to the doctors, our doctors about it,

632
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Speaker 9: because it's something that was documented by our doctors and trainers.

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Speaker 9: They said no, they didn't need to. They talked to

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Speaker 9: their doctors who did not examine aarony Smith, and we

635
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Speaker 9: asked them if they wanted to talk to the kid,

636
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Speaker 9: and they said no, they didn't need to. So this

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Speaker 9: was this was shocking. This was shocking to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I know me I'm this is where I

639
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Speaker 1: agree with Rachel. If you're gonna limit what I can

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Speaker 1: do to get better, if I own a run a team,

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Speaker 1: then I'm in a tank and I'm gonna be a

642
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: little sneaky. I'm I'm not cheating, I'm not betting it.

643
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Speaker 1: It's not rigged. But I'm gonna sit some guys late.

644
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Speaker 1: And by the way, by the time you get to

645
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Speaker 1: January and February and March, NBA guys are all nicked

646
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: up and banged up. So the NFL allows all different

647
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Speaker 1: ways you can draft and develop.

648
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Speaker 2: Like the Packers.

649
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Speaker 1: You can make spend two hundred and fifty million in

650
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Speaker 1: free agency. You don't have to have salaries matching, so

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Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't have a tanking issue. When you give

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Speaker 1: So J McK and I have a disagreement, and it's

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Speaker 1: that I do believe the NBA gets it right. You

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Speaker 1: cannot win a lot of their awards, including Most Valuable Player,

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Speaker 1: if you do not play at least sixty five games.

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Speaker 1: And here's now. There have been exceptions in the history

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Speaker 1: of the league. Bill Walton in nineteen seventy seven, he

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Speaker 1: had injuries his entire career, and there's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of lockout shortened seasons where like, nobody's playing that many games,

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Speaker 1: But by and large, every other MVP has played at

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Speaker 1: least sixty five games. So if you think I'm wrong,

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Speaker 1: just consider this. Two words in the MVP matter, not

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Speaker 1: just valuable, most that matter that.

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Speaker 2: Matters a lot. The word most and then valuable.

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Speaker 1: So to be the most valuable parent I can be,

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Speaker 1: I have to be available a lot. So how can

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Speaker 1: you argue that jokicch and SG are the most valuable

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Speaker 1: players in the league when they're actually both less valuable

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Speaker 1: than they were a year ago. So SGA is less

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Speaker 1: valuable to Okac, this year because he's missed so many

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Speaker 1: games than last year. But you want him to be

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Speaker 1: the most valuable player in the league. Hell, he's less

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Speaker 1: valuable this year to his own team than he was

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Speaker 1: last year. Jokic is less valuable when he's not playing

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Nuggets this year than he was to

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Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets last year, and you want to vote

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Speaker 1: him most valuable player in the league. This is not

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Speaker 1: saying that Sga this year isn't valuable or that Jokic

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Speaker 1: isn't valuable. The awards called the most valuable player in

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Speaker 1: the entire league. And to me, Kid Cunningham, who is

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Speaker 1: carrying a bunch of twenty one year olds in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: he's their only really big time consistent score go to

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Speaker 1: a plus player. There's about ten great players at any

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Speaker 1: one time in the league. He's one of them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even Jalen Brunson, as good as he is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got og Mikhale Bridges as a veteran cat can

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Speaker 1: drop thirty on any occasion. Like Detroit's pretty much well coached,

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Speaker 1: real physical plays, real defense, and Kate Cunningham scores twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the team. So I would give Kate Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: But you can't tell me that availability doesn't matter when

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Speaker 1: the award is called most valuable, and that Sga and

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Speaker 1: Jokic are less valuable this year to their teams, not

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Speaker 1: the league, their own teams than they were last year.

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Speaker 1: So give it to Kate Cunningham. And yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's why, Like in baseball, you've got the cy

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Speaker 1: Young and then you've got the Most Valuable Player, and

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Speaker 1: even within the cy Young, there's been pushback through the years.

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Speaker 1: Like Paul Skeins is great, but I mean, how many

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Speaker 1: games did he win? I mean pitchers now nobody throws

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Speaker 1: a complete game, so it would be to me, it'd

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Speaker 1: be ridiculous. It wouldn't matter if it was Sandy Kofax

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Speaker 1: it went twenty four and three. I couldn't make him

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Speaker 1: most valuable. He's pitching every fourth game and nobody throws

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Speaker 1: complete games anymore. So really, I mean, the Dodgers all

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Speaker 1: season long were scuffing. Why because teams don't throw complete

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Speaker 1: games and their bullpens stunk. They blew like twenty three saves.

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Speaker 1: So even in baseball, you know the pitcher gets that award.

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Speaker 2: The MVP is to the guy that's playing every day.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the Thunder and Nuggets had a

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Speaker 1: better record last year at this point in the season,

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Speaker 1: when Sja and Yokicic were more available. So I would

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Speaker 1: go Kate Cunningham one, Wemby two, Jalen Brown three. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Brown is carrying a lot of guys you've never heard of.

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Speaker 2: Let me back up.

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Speaker 1: Zingis got moved, Drew Holliday has gone, Marcus Smart the

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Speaker 1: year before is gone, Tatum is not available, and the

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Speaker 1: Celtics are playing great basketball and it's mostly because Jalen Brown,

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Speaker 1: who plays both ends of the floor, has carried them.

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Speaker 3: So let's back up in just the word valuable. So

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Speaker 3: if you pull Cad off the Pistons, they're bad. If

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Speaker 3: you pull Sga off the Thunder, are they bad?

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Speaker 2: Nope?

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Speaker 3: If you pull Yolkic off the Nuggets, are they bad?

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Speaker 2: Uh, They're not very good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, So by that metric, yes, okay, give it

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Speaker 3: to Kati. He's the most valuable to his team. But

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Speaker 3: remember this is Detroit team who's never won anything. Over

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Speaker 3: the last fifteen years. They haven't won a playoff series.

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Speaker 1: I believe in you can't punish Kate Cunningham because of

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Speaker 1: previous incompetence.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying like they're trying extra hard. Their

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Speaker 3: whole team, everybody a bunch of tryhards. Denver's one titles,

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Speaker 3: they've been. They know that this is just a dress

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Speaker 3: rehearsal for the playoffs. Okase wants to go back to back.

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Speaker 3: They got a lot of guys trying to fight for contracts,

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Speaker 3: playing time. They're not as low in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: Detroit hasn't done a damn thing, so they're trying superwent.

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Speaker 3: So I think that should play a factor. I don't

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Speaker 3: know how you quantify that, but you can't look me

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Speaker 3: in the eye and say, Cave Cunningham is the most

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Speaker 3: valuable player.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe he is?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: My well, I think about this. Think about the New

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Speaker 1: York Knicks, who Detroit has hammered three times.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson's an elite scorer. OG can score. What's OG average?

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Speaker 1: Kat is an elite offensive player. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 1: you can name Josh hart Mkhale Bridges, Like the Knicks

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Speaker 1: have a real basketball team with multiple offensive options and

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Speaker 1: Detroit owns them. When there really is one elite option

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Speaker 1: They're both good defensive teams.

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Speaker 2: I think Detroit's more physical.

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Speaker 3: So basically, this similar, very similar Detroit team played the

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Speaker 3: Knicks last year in the playoffs. Knicks beat them in six. Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're going to see in the playoffs again. This Knicks

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Speaker 3: team knows.

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Speaker 2: Colin the the the Piston. Now think about this.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Pistons are six points better offensively when Kate

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Speaker 1: Cunningham plays. Start looking at the Detroit Pistons in close games.

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Speaker 1: They're winning because of Kate Cunningham. They're not winning because

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Speaker 1: they have a slick half court offense. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: watch them again, San Antonio. It's like they got to

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Speaker 1: score down lower. They just they struggle. Yes, similar to

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Speaker 1: the Lakers in these close games.

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Speaker 3: They stink, but they're great record wise because they have Luca.

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Speaker 3: They stink against Orlando Magic, but they have Luca, one

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Speaker 3: of the best guys in the league. This is tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you couldn't even would you take Kate Cunningham

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Speaker 3: over Luca right now to build a team.

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Speaker 2: I'd give it thought.

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Speaker 3: Ow, oh my gosh, maybe the AI is getting to

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Speaker 3: you at this point, because I don't know. I'm shot.

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Speaker 3: You have Kate on the same level as Luka Doncic.

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Speaker 1: Luca is a better offensive player than almost anybody in

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Speaker 1: the world. But you you, I mean you have to

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Speaker 1: and you inherit a lot of other stuff, the NonStop barking,

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Speaker 1: not in great shape, mounting injuries, atrocious defensively, that's all

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Speaker 1: part of the resume. Kate Cunningham's better defensively. Kate Cunningham

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Speaker 1: is healthier, CAD's in better shape. CAD's not as good offensively,

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Speaker 1: but he's what's Kate Cunningham averaging a night?

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Speaker 3: He's good, He's like twenty five. He's a top ten

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Speaker 3: player in the league, no doubt. He's excellent, all right,

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Speaker 3: man vaulting him into that.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, kid Cunningham, because he's in shape,

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Speaker 1: is going to age better than Luca. Luca's turning twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: At about an hour, He's already you can see the

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Speaker 1: regression athletically, boy hour three coming up.

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Speaker 2: Hayter