1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Hey, Discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah, me too. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, 5 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party. 6 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get you from one full 8 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: episode of disgrace Sland to the other, the backyard to 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: dig into the dirt. On this bonus episode, we are 10 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: talking about this week's full episode subject Louis Armstrong, also 11 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: musicians who have been co opted by the CIA throughout history. 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: We're previewing our upcoming Valentine's Day episodes and we get 13 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: into your voicemails, texts, DMS, emails and as always, oh 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: the whole lot of Rosie. All right, Discos, let's get 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: into it. So one of the many fortunate aspects of 16 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: being a parent is that it forces you into conversations 17 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: at school events, you know, your kids' games or parties 18 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: with people who you wouldn't otherwise socialize with your kids, 19 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: kind of force you to make new or additional friends. 20 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm not telling the parents anything. They don't already know. 21 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm just stating this for those of you who might 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: not have children, and because this is how I found 23 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: myself in conversation recently with the grandson of an original 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: CIA member just the other day. I was a fascinating 25 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: conversation because this dude's granddad went all the way back 26 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: to the OSS. That's the World War II era version 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: of the CIA, before they had a name for it. 28 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: The OSS and early CIA was made up of a 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: bunch of Ivy League students whose dads were captains of 30 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: industry and finance, defense, government, etc. That's where this dude 31 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: that I was talking to traces his lineage. And I 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: won't go into the stories that he shared with me 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: that his grandfather shared with him, or I guess his 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: grandfather shared with his father who shared with him, if 35 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I want to be one hundred percent accurate, But as 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: you can imagine, these stories are pretty wild. This encounter 37 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: happened to me at the exact moment I was knee 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: deep in research on another Disgraceland subject for an upcoming 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: episode that had me consumed with CIA history. It had 40 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: me thinking about my own grandfather, who was a brilliant 41 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: man and a veteran, a veteran of Korea, not of 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: World War Two, who tried unsuccessfully to join the CIA 43 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: after the war. That was his dream, but he was 44 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: denied that dream because the agency couldn't trace my grandmother's 45 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: heritage back far enough through her heritage in Greece, so 46 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: my grandfather wasn't allowed to join the CIA. I guess 47 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the thinking was that they couldn't be sure my grandmother 48 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't turn my grandfather into a Greek spy or something. Now, 49 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: back then, it was I gather admirable to join the CIA. 50 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't share that opinion. Now I might think it's 51 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: bad ass, but I'm not sure I think it's admirable. 52 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: But anyhow, I always thought this part of my family's 53 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: history is what made CIA history so fascinating to me personally. 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: The agency is naturally shrouded in mystery, even for me 55 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: on a personal level, because of my grandfather or what 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: my grandfather tried to do. Anyway, whenever the CIA rubs 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: up against the subjects we discuss here in Disgraceland, I 58 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: get really interested. I used to think these were just 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: random historical circumstances, But the more I study the history 60 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: of American culture. And let's be real for a minute. 61 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: I launched Disgraceland back in twenty eighteen, So I'm now 62 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: in my seventh year of having my head buried in 63 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: books reading about the history of American culture, not to 64 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: mention a lifetime prior to that, reading and absorbing books 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: and documentaries and films about American history. With all this research, 66 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: you start to see connections and patterns. And my conclusion 67 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: now is that the CIA's connection to music and culture 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: is definitely not as accidental as I once thought it was. 69 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: It's very much intentional. Nowhere is this more evident than 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: in this week's full episode on Louis Armstrong. The way 71 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: the CIA used him is truly disgraceful. It was to 72 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: not only commit murder, but to subvert democracy in the 73 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: process of committing murder. That is harsh. Seriously, just I 74 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: know it's hard, right. None of us are rock stars. 75 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't think if any of you are get in 76 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: touch me we can talk. Seriously, none of us are 77 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: rock stars. But just try to imagine your Louis Armstrong 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: for a second, and you wake up one day and 79 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: you realize that you were completely played. You were played 80 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: into unknowingly contributing to the death of an innocent man, 81 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: a democratically elected innocent man. How would you deal with that? 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: That's fucked up? The CIA. I don't care what good 83 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: they they may do and what sort of you know, 84 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: mechanism or apparatus they provide to keep the world safe. 85 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: The CIA, regardless of any of that, is a dark entity. 86 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: JFK was killed because he was rightly, I believe, going 87 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: to split through the agency into a thousand pieces, as 88 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: he said. And with the tt tiny little look that 89 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: we've just begun to get into the JFK files, I'm 90 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: beginning to learn that the Watergate scandal, incredibly was more 91 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: about keeping the CIA's involvement with the Kennedy assassination secret, 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: that it was solely about political subterfuge, MK Ultra, the 93 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Beach Boys and Charles Manson, the Scorpions, wind of Change 94 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: in the Cold War Brews and the Grateful Dead, and 95 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: the proliferation of LSD to American youth, Tom DeLong of 96 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Blink one eighty two and UAP disclosure, Miles Copeland Junior 97 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and the police. There's even a wild public enemy story 98 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: about an East European communist influence campaign, a story I 99 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: would have quickly dismissed ten years ago, but now I 100 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: don't know man patterns. I'm not saying that all these 101 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: artists were CIA cutouts, but I'm not saying they weren't either, 102 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: or at least some of them. If you would have 103 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: told an American citizen back in the nineteen sixties that 104 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong was part of a CIA coupdeta first, Louis 105 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: Armstrong was like shack okay, he was that type of figure. 106 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: He was beloved by everyone pretty much, big, jolly, wholesome. 107 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: There was no way anyone was believing back then in 108 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties that Louis Armstrong was part of a 109 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: CIA COUPDETA. Second, Americans at the time just flat out 110 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: wouldn't have believed that their government, the American government, was 111 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: involved in any way with violent covert acts such as 112 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: as this one. It wasn't until after Watergate, after the 113 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: church hearings in the seventies that Americans get to hear 114 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: about all the awful shit that the CIA was up 115 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: to in foreign countries, and for some reason we took 116 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: this as well. The lights have been turned on and 117 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: all the cockroaches are now scurrying back into the shadows, 118 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: and you know, sunlight disinfects, and the government rod is 119 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: you know, not to be seen anymore. We can all 120 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: go back to just you know, not thinking about the 121 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: many deplorable ways in which our government has acted and 122 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: just to assume that they're going to stop doing it. Newsflash, 123 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: they didn't stop doing it. I believe they just got 124 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: better at hiding it. Which begs the question, which musicians 125 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: from the eighties, from the nineties, the two thousands from 126 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: the now have been co opted by the CIA for 127 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: nefarious purposes. I don't know the answer. I'm not even 128 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: really looking for an answer here. I'm just rhetorically asking 129 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: this question because it's legitimately that's where my head's at. 130 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: Louis frickin' Armstrong in the CIA, Are you kidding me? 131 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: My larger point is that this story of Louis Armstrong 132 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: it proves that the CIA is more involved in our 133 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: cultural lives than I think we care to acknowledge. These 134 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: sneaky little bastards have been fucking shit up for a 135 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: long time, and I think that in the coming weeks, 136 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: as more of these JFK files get talked about. As 137 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: the entire treasure trove of three hundred thousand documents gets released, 138 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be surprised if we start seeing 139 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: some bold faced names that we were not expecting. Now, 140 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's going to happen, Okay, I have 141 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: no evidence that that's the case at all. It's just 142 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: a hunch. And you know, I'm not even saying it's 143 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: a particularly good hunch. All I'm saying is that the 144 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: more I dig into history, the more I run into 145 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: facts pointing to the CIA rubbing up against American culture, 146 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: music history included. Okay, but this JFK stuff, This is 147 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: a couple weeks down the road, all right. We'll get 148 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: to that, however. Coming up next in Disgraceland this week's 149 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: rewind episode on sly Stone, and we were tied this 150 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: release with a much anticipated release this week of Questlove's 151 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: documentary on Signing the Family Stone, which all of us 152 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: here at disgrace In are very excited to watch. Talk 153 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: about a rock and roll animal, sly Stone was a 154 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: special kind of beast. I guess I would be surprised 155 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: if sly Stone was a CIA cutout. Just to add that, 156 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: speaking of rock and roll beasts. Speaking of rock and 157 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: roll animals, I want your stories on rock and roll animalism, 158 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: your stories from back in the day that best demonstrate 159 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: the rock and roll spirit that helped keep the rock 160 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: and roll spirit alive, that preserve this dying genre that 161 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: we love so much, rock and roll. You don't have 162 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: to have been involved in a CIA coup. Maybe you 163 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: just ran into the singer from King Missile at a 164 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: truck stop at three in the morning back in the 165 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: day it made some snipermark about us quote unquote detachable 166 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: penises I did. Or maybe you and your friends just 167 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: saw post Malone doing shots at your local bar last week. 168 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. It can be any story at all. 169 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to involve you. It can be 170 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: a story about a rock star that you read about 171 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: or that you saw in a documentary that blew your 172 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: mind and that you want to share with the rest 173 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: of us. Email me at Disgrace lampod at gmail dot com, 174 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 1: or hit me up on voicemail or tech six one 175 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six sixty six three eight, and your 176 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: story might be the story of the week here in 177 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: next week's after party. But before that next week, on Tuesday. 178 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: We have our full episode on Sit and Nancy, and 179 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: we were releasing this on Tuesday because Valentine's Day is here. 180 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: And what spells love better than being a rock star 181 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: and being so gonzo on drugs that you murder the 182 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: love of your life. You think, you think, you're not 183 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: sure though, that's the mind fuck of it. You're not 184 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: sure if you killed the woman you love because you're 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: so fucking high. What a story. It's incredible punk rock 186 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliette. Make sure to celebrate Valentine's Day in 187 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: Disgraceland with Sit and Nancy next week. And when you're 188 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: listening to this episode, be thinking about the worst rockstar 189 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: couples in music history, or at least the most notorious. Okay, 190 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be our question of the week. All right, 191 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break. I'll be back to 192 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: flash with your voicemails, text and answers to last week's 193 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: question of the week. All right, we are back. Just 194 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: a quick reminder to make sure you Apple podcast listeners 195 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: have auto downloads turned on so you're not missing any episodes. Guys, 196 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: you know how to get in touch with me? Six one, seven, nine, 197 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight to leave me a 198 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: voicemail or to send me a text at Disgrace lampod 199 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: on Instagram x and Facebook, Disgracingpod at gmail dot com. 200 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to start with a text this week instead 201 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: of a voicemail because this dude, I'm assuming it's a dude, 202 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: hits on about four different questions we've been talking about, 203 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: trying to answer just topics I guess in general. Okay, 204 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: he starts with bro the Owen Heart story is worse 205 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: than it sounds. Vince McMahon continued with that evening's matches 206 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: with wins Blood on the mat Watch the Vince McMahon 207 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: series on Netflix. Okay, three h two, here is talking 208 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: about the death of Owen Heart. We were talking about 209 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: strange celebrity deaths last week, and this one is one 210 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: of the strangest. And I have not seen this. I 211 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: started watching it with my kids. I'm glad I didn't continue. 212 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: I didn't get very far into it. I need to 213 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: see this documentary. But there's this. There's so much to 214 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: watch right now. I have the Diddy documentary series on 215 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: HBO to catch up on, which I'm doing this week. 216 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: I have, of course, the sly Stone documentary that I'm 217 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: stoked on. I gotta watch that as well. And I'm 218 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: gonna watch this Vince McMann series on Netflix because this 219 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: story just sounds incredible and it sounds like there should 220 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: be some sort of episode on this just based on 221 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: the the way this guy died is unreal. He goes 222 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: on to say, Prince and Michael our apples and oranges. 223 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot compare the two. I disagree. I mean, 224 00:12:55,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: they're they're of the same time, They're they're both massive icons. 225 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: They're both part of that sort of same generation, first 226 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: generation of pop stars who really understood how to use 227 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: MTV and how to capitalize on it and their audiences. 228 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: There was so much crossover, so I think you can 229 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: absolutely compare the two. And then my favorite of these 230 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: of this string of text for the three or two says, 231 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: hot dogs over a dollar make me want to punch 232 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: babies in the face. When my kid played Little League 233 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: and the hot dogs in the concession stand were over 234 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: a dollar, no one paid more than a dollar when 235 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: I was in the stand. I don't know that we 236 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: need to punch babies, but I hear you. Maybe we 237 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: can get some legislation sponsor to just you know I'm 238 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: not for I'm not for price fixing generally. I'm a 239 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: market guy. I believe you're don't let the market decide 240 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: what something is worth, but not when it comes to 241 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: hot dogs, coffees and cheap beer. They should all be 242 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: under a dollar. And maybe we can get some legislation 243 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: that helps us get to this sort of utopia that 244 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: I've been I've started talking about last week, and that 245 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: I can see you guys are interested in as well. 246 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: Seven to seven two rights in Hey, Jake, seven to 247 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: seven to two here South Florida by way of northern Wisconsin. 248 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: My favorite band was and is Boston. I think Brad 249 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: Delp's story is fascinating and tragic. He was a genius. 250 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: Lots of court cases in fellow bandmates, and also rumor 251 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: of him secretly filming his girlfriend's sister before he tragically 252 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: killed himself with carbon monoxide using two grills in his bathroom. 253 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Tom Schultz from the band Boston is another really interesting character, 254 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: highly educated heir of the Polaroid camera inventory. Keep up 255 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: the great work you helped me get through the day 256 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: seven seven two. I know about this story and I've 257 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: long thought about telling it, and you know, in Boston, 258 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: in the city Boston, this has been this story's sort 259 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: of been in the ether, floating around. Nobody really wants 260 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: to touch it. I think the Boston Herald did a 261 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: piece on it, and it's a nasty story, man, it's 262 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: a nasty, nasty story, and anything involving kids, I don't 263 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: like to go near it, just because you know it's 264 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd be like, why you cover cannibalism and 265 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: you cover all these atrocities and yeah, but there's just 266 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: something about having your head in the abuse of children 267 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: during the research phase and then it's just too much. 268 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: And then do you really want to sit through thirty minutes, 269 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: forty minutes, fifty minutes of that type of content. I don't, necessarily, 270 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: but this story's really fucked up for a bunch of 271 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: different reasons as well. So maybe there's a way to 272 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: tell it that wouldn't be completely gross and disgusting. I 273 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys, if you guys want to 274 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: go down a wormhole, though, get into this Brad del 275 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Boston story. It's all out there. Six one seven nine 276 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. You can leave me 277 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: a voicemail on any topic, question of the week, or 278 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: just anything that's on your mind. Episodes you want to 279 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: hear topics you want me to discuss. All right, let's 280 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: hear from Cuba in the six to one four. 281 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, this is Juba from the sixty one four. 282 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: Oh Man, Miles Davis one bad ass motherfucker. This was 283 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: my favorite these two. This two part episode was my 284 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: favorite by far. And I have listened to every one 285 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: of your episodes at least twice. I will probably listen 286 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: to this four times. It has written beautifully. It just 287 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: slowed just like Miles Davis. I never knew about him 288 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: playing the trumpet to the birds, and when you were describing. 289 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: That, it just I could hear it, I. 290 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Could feel it, and it made so much sense and 291 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: how beautiful. 292 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Koba, thank you six one four. I appreciate 293 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the kind words on the Miles Davis two part episode, 294 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: the rewe episode that we dropped into the feed. This 295 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: episode is definitely akin to Louis Armstrong episode. Obviously the 296 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: genre jazz. I mean, that's kind of like comparing a 297 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: Ferrari to a muscle car, but or in Miles's case, 298 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: a Lamborghini to a muscle car, but still they're in 299 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: conversation with each other. And if you like that Miles 300 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Davis episode, you got to check out the Louis Armstrong 301 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: episode and vice versa. Also, I've said this before, I'll 302 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: say it again. Matt Boden, who mixes these episodes produces 303 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: them with me, crushed the mix on the Miles Davis 304 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: two part episodes as he always does. But you know, 305 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: these are these episodes here. The Miles episodes are kind 306 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: of like, you know, if I was walking down the 307 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: street and someone ran up to me and was like, Hey, 308 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: what disgraced ane episode should I listen to for the 309 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: first time? I think I might give them these two. 310 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: That's how much I love the way they came out. 311 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's check out this voicemail from Johnny in 312 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: the six one seven. 313 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, Jake. It's Johnny Vinyl, longtime brother, just 314 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 3: chiming in here on a complete unknown. First of all, 315 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: I'm so glad that you went to see that movie 316 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: and that you kept an open mind, because it kind 317 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: of bums me out to hear you say that you 318 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 3: just weren't in a Timothy shallow may But you know what, 319 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 3: each to their own I like, you appreciate very strong opinions, 320 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: So you know, I was like, Wow, can Jake, can 321 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: he be flipped on this movie? Because I was convinced 322 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: that you could be. So I went to see it 323 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 3: with twelve other people. I went to see it with 324 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: my brother in laws, my sister in laws, my girlfriend, 325 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 3: and all of the kids. And the kids ranged from 326 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 3: age eight up to age sixteen. Okay, they were glued 327 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 3: to that screen. They did not move from their chairs, 328 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: they did not gab away. They were glued to that screen. 329 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: And every single kid loved that movie, and every single 330 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: kid got into Bob Dylan after that movie. My daughter 331 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: owns the soundtrack on vinyl. She listens to it to depth. 332 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 3: And Timothy shallow May was amazing. I'm a huge Bob 333 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 3: Dylan fan. I'm very critical of the way he would 334 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 3: be portrayed by anybody. My brother in law feels the 335 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: same way. We thought tim absolutely crushed it. We thought 336 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: that Monica playing Joan Bias was amazing. We thought that 337 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 3: just the cast was unbelievable. But I like that the 338 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 3: movie stuck to the time piece, It stuck to the facts. 339 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: It didn't try to overdramatize anything. That is the way 340 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: that a pure biopick should be done. And I hope 341 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 3: that others learned the lesson of how a biopick should 342 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: be done. That's all I gotta say. Keep up the 343 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 3: good work, Jake. 344 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Timothy Shama, Lama Ding Dong, he did deliver. Indeed, 345 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: he was amazing. I stand corrected. I did not have 346 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: high hopes for this film, in part because I'm just 347 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: not a big fan of that dude, not some I 348 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. I'm kind of indifferent to him, and 349 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think he would bring a lot to the table. 350 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: And boy, oh boy, was I wrong. As I mentioned 351 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: in the bonus section of the after Party last week, 352 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: to you guys, I went to see a Complete Unknown. 353 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Gave my review Johnny. Yeah, man, I'm happy you liked 354 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: it as well, and really great to hear that all 355 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: the kids were into it, because I've been thinking about 356 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: bringing my kids, like I mentioned, to see this, and 357 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: they're pretty young, but I think they would love it. 358 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: It's funny. This past weekend we had house guests, and 359 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: I found myself in an argument about this movie with 360 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: somebody who had not seen it, but who was not 361 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: interested at all in watching it basically had the same 362 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: exact sort of pre critique that I had, just not 363 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to it, just been burned by so many 364 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: music biopics before, and thought that this was going to 365 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: be awful, thought that Dylan was too much of an 366 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: enigmatic character to actually be able to capture on screen. 367 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: But you know whatever, I hope impressed upon this dude 368 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: to go see the movie. I don't think I did. 369 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: But Johnny, maybe he'll hear this, and maybe he'll hear 370 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: your enthusiasm as well, and that will compel him. Movie 371 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: is great. You should all go check it out. And 372 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: if you do and you don't like it, well, Johnny 373 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: will fight you. Emma Lewis aka at Miss Murphy sixty 374 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: nine on x Wright saying, Hey, Jake, I've been meaning 375 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: to ask for ages how many loops are on that 376 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: MK one. I've been listening since today dot com and 377 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: it got me thinking, I don't really understand the text. 378 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I do understand the question MK one in MK two 379 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: represent the type of loop. Okay, the melotron is its 380 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 1: own beast, and the power of the melotron is endless. 381 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: There are loops galore. And I read this text because 382 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: Matt Boden. I'm talking to you, buddy. You know what 383 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: we got to do. Just dropping this in here, one 384 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: less email. Okay, you got it. Hit me up. Brooke 385 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: McLeod Burks writes in on Facebook. Ky, not sure if 386 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: you've done one on Howard Hughes, but if not, check 387 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: out this book. This all happened near where I live. 388 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: Very convincing. The book is called Boxes, The Secret Life 389 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: of Howard Hughes by Douglas Wellman, and this is interesting. 390 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I was, actually I'm interested in this. I don't know 391 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna ever do an episode on Howard Hughes, 392 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe for bad Lands. I'll have news on bad Lands soon, 393 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: by the way, But I was actually reading last night, 394 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: and again, CIA is everywhere when it comes to culture 395 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: and their involvement with Howard Hughes. Fascinating stuff. Also, this 396 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: was in reference to the, like I said, the tenC 397 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: tiny little news we got on the JFK Files. So far, 398 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: so Brooke, very interesting. I might just read that book 399 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: just for the hell of it, and maybe it ends 400 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: up being some sort of episode in the future. Thanks 401 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: for reaching out, guys at Disgrace lampod on Facebook. Lots 402 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: going over going on on our Facebook page recently in 403 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: the last month or so. Okay, if you're not following 404 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: us on Facebook. If you're on Facebook and you're not 405 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: following us on Facebook, you're really missing out. We're releasing 406 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: a lot more content over there, a bunch of video content, 407 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: a lot of which is not getting released on Instagram 408 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: or anywhere else. So get over there and follow us 409 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: at Disgrace Lamp Pod on Facebook. If you're not on 410 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: Facebook and you're like, hey man, I'm on Instagram or 411 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm on X or I'm on Instagram and X and 412 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: TikTok and I just don't have the bandwidth, I get it. 413 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: I get it, there's too many apps. I totally understand. 414 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you we're doing more on Facebook these days. 415 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: And if you're like, hey man, Facebook's just for the 416 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: old dues, for the boomers, that's not true. It's not 417 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: true if you're Gen X, if you're a millennial, Facebook 418 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: is the biggest platform on the planet. I'm not here 419 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: to pump Facebook's tires. I'm just telling you that we 420 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: got a cool community over there and releasing a bunch 421 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: of content over there. We've increased our follower account we've 422 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: doubled it actually in the last few months, and we're 423 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: going to keep releasing stuff video content, I should say, 424 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: music related video content over on Facebook. So give us 425 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: a follow, Penny handling Anderson Wright saying, Hey, Jake, I 426 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: am from the eight oh one area code and maybe 427 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: the only one from Utah. No, we have more Utah 428 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: listeners than just you, Penny, but I think I know 429 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: where you're getting at. You're also saying I'm also she's 430 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: directly contradicting what I was just saying about Facebook, Penny saying, 431 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm also one of your much older listeners. Penny, you 432 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: don't look that old. I'm looking at your picture here. 433 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: You're aging yourself, and I don't think you should do 434 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: that because you look pretty good. Penny. Penny goes honest, 435 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: say I love your podcasts and the stories you find 436 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: on people are incredible. I don't listen weekly or anything, 437 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: but I fill up an SD card. Okay, Penny, this 438 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: is some old This is some old people's stuff. Here. 439 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: I fill up an SD card with about thirty or 440 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: forty at the time, and I listen in my car 441 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: so I hear them in alphabetical order. 442 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: Loll. 443 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm laughing at the loll not the order you 444 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: put them out anyway. I love the crossover between Disgraceland 445 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: and bad Lands. Keep up the good work. Love you man, Penny, Penny, 446 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: I love you too. Like I said, news on bad 447 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: Lands coming soon. Thanks for reaching out, Penny. Okay, the 448 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: very young, very the very millennial Terry Demron on Facebook right, 449 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: the Disgraceland podcast is one of my absolute favorites. I'm joking. 450 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm not joking about what Terry said or how old 451 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: she appears to be in her Facebook profile picture. But look, 452 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: I don't care how old the listeners are or how 453 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: young they are, as long as you guys are enjoying 454 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: what we're pumping out on. And I don't care. I 455 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: don't care what platform you're getting it on either. Just 456 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: keep showing up, all right. I appreciate you at disgracelamp 457 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: pod on all the platforms, and you can hit me 458 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: up anywhere. Gala avery Over on Instagram, writes in response 459 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: to our November fourth, nineteen ninety five nostalgia video rock 460 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,479 Speaker 1: and ROLLA rock and Roller, Right back at you, Gala, 461 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: thanks for checking in. Russell shouts The Third Rights on 462 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: Instagram with all due respect, this is in reaction to 463 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: our Debbie Harry video with Ted Bundy. No judgment yet, 464 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: this isn't entertainment talking about disgracelam content. This is one 465 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: of the best distractions ever created to get the masses 466 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: to look out instead of looking inward to find knowledge 467 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: of one's own life. Know thyself hashtag know thyself. Russell 468 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: you got me, you figured it out. I am a 469 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: ciasi op put here to specifically distract all of you 470 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: from looking in at what you've become. How dare you 471 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: become what you've become? How dare you You need to 472 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: look inside? Free yourself? And as en Vogue said back 473 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: in the nineties, your ass will follow. They of course 474 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: we're ripping off George Clinton. But hey, that's what the 475 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: CIA doesn't want you to know. Man, wouldn't be funny 476 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: if I was a ciasi, Oh, that'd be fucking hysterical 477 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: After all this, Ah love it at the sgracesampod on Instagram, 478 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: x Facebook scracesampod at gmail dot com. I'm going to 479 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: be back with your emails and the story of the 480 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: week right after this. All right, we are back. This 481 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: week's story of the Week you know, the guys story 482 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: of the week. By now, hit me up. Let me 483 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: know of some story of rock and roll, animalism, the 484 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: spirit of rock and roll, whatever you want to call it, 485 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: the preservation of rock and roll, something rock and roll 486 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: that has happened to you that you witness firsthand, and 487 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: or a great rock and roll story that maybe you 488 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: heard from somewhere else. Okay, why do I have to 489 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: be the one who's always telling the stories here? You 490 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: guys need to tell me some stories. Okay, hit me up. 491 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: We'll gather all the stories together. We'll we get this collective, 492 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: this sort of preservation project that we have here in Disgraceland. 493 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: And every week I'm gonna read one of these stories 494 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: to you, Okay. Disgrace Lampod at gmail dot com on 495 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: email six point seven nine h six six six three 496 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: eight if you want to send me a text or voicemail. 497 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: This week's story of the Week comes from the eight 498 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,719 Speaker 1: to six to zero from a Disgraceland listener named Gloria. 499 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna read all of her message here because 500 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: it's it's very long, and I can appreciate that there's 501 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: it's actually a bunch of stories that she sent in Gloria, 502 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: you need to get your own podcast, Gloria, Gloria kidding. 503 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: Gloria tells this story. It's a really funny one about 504 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: being trapped in a casino with bon Jovi the band, 505 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: which and she was a young girl at the time, 506 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: but this seems like a time when bon Jovi was 507 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: maybe a little later in their career. Her dad was 508 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: in the music business, which is how this came to be. 509 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: She goes on to tell this story here, I have 510 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: quite a few stories, like my dad's radio station was 511 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: the station who had Millie Vanilli performing when they had 512 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: their track skip. And then she goes on to talk 513 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: about how her dad was friends with Fabris. Her dad 514 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: really sounds like a character here, sort of an older 515 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: silver Fox guy is what I'm imagining here from her 516 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: many texts. She says that her father has some stories 517 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: too of summer jam in Rochester, New York with this 518 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: girl in a band who asked for my dad to 519 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: come to Niagara Falls with them, and my dad took 520 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: them all in his convertible sports car and crossed the border. 521 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: And turns out the lead singer of that band was 522 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: a girl who was a sessed with my dad and 523 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: her name was Fergie. Okay, all right, great. 524 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:05,719 Speaker 3: Uh. 525 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: She goes on to talk about, Uh, this is why 526 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to read this to you. Last, but not least, 527 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I have quite a memory of Lana del Rey asking 528 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: for my dad's phone number after a show. He was 529 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: such a gorgeous and polite man. She said, is he single? 530 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: And my dad was like, UM, I love this. I 531 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: love because I love Lana Delray hitting on an old 532 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: dude after one of her shows. I just think that's perfect. 533 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: That's the exact type of story of the week that 534 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: we're looking for. Thank you, Gloria. I appreciate it took 535 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: a while for us to get there, but we did it. Guys, 536 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: hit me up with your story of the week. Disgray 537 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: sandpod at gmail dot com six one seven nine It 538 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: was six six six three eight. All right, guys, leave 539 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: a review for Disgray Sand on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, 540 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and you know the drill. We send out some free 541 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: merch whatever we get lining around the studio, whatever happens 542 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: to be in arms reach. We appreciate the reviews. The 543 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: reviews helped drive discovery of the show, and that's super important. 544 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: Aquaman four seventy over on Apple Podcasts. Rights this week, kid, 545 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: do you love music? What about the stories behind some 546 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: of the greatest cultural phenoms in history? You have found 547 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: your new home. This is the place to be for 548 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: all the best stories about all your favorites. Thank you, 549 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: Aquaman four seventy. Get in touch, We'll get some merch 550 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: out to you over on Spotify. Our Pain sixteen, writes 551 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: Jake Disgraceland is one of my very favorite podcasts. Excellent storytelling. 552 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: Even if I think that maybe an episode won't interest 553 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: me at first, only because I'm not familiar with the 554 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: subject or it's a genre I'm not into, like this 555 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong episode, it does not matter. I am sucked 556 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: into the story every single time. Thank you for the 557 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: great writing and all the work that you put into this. 558 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: It's one of the highlights of my week. Thanks special 559 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: shout out to Zeth Lundy for the great writing on 560 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: that Louis Armstrong episode. Our Pain sixteen. Get in touch, 561 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: We'll get you some merch. Guys, go ahead and leave 562 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. We appreciate it mightily. 563 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: This episode, unfortunately is nearing its end. For a lot 564 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: of you but not for all of you. Okay, for 565 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: some of you, the party continues. Okay, we're gonna continue 566 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: the after party here. Okay, we're gonna go to that 567 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: special secret room in the back and we're just gonna 568 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: all sit around, kick back, have a nice, nice drink. 569 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: As I used to call them, the asshole birds. Those 570 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: are the birds that came up really really really really 571 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: early in the morning. And if you heard those birds 572 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and you were still up and you were still out, well, 573 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: my friend, you are an asshole. So that's what we're 574 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: about to get into right now. Okay, we're gonna we're 575 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna go into the room with the asshole birds on 576 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: the other side of the window, and we're gonna just 577 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: chat a little bit about some extra stuff here, some 578 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: extra bonus content for you all for who are All 579 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: Access members. And again, all Access members know that you 580 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: get a lot of content, and it doesn't cost a 581 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: lot to be an All Access member. It's just five 582 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: dollars a month. Okay, in my utopia, that's five hot dogs, 583 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: that's five coffees, that's five cheap beers. Okay, five bucks 584 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: a month. I'm telling you, man, what's a medium coffee 585 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: at Starbucks. It's gotta be five bucks, right, you get 586 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: done putting all that crap in it. You're up around 587 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: six seven dollars for one coffee. You're not even gonna 588 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: drink all of it. Okay, you're gonna put it in 589 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: your cup holder. You're gonna get behind your wheel, you're 590 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: gonna go for a drive. You know you're gonna spill 591 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: some You're gonna you know, you're gonna, I don't know, 592 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna drink all that coffee in that medium cup. 593 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: And you just spent seven dollars eight dollars, twelve bucks. 594 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: You spend twelve bucks on a coffee. Come on, man, 595 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: five bucks to be an All Access member. That's all costs. 596 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: Get in here. You get the bonus section of the 597 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: All Access after party that we're about to get into. 598 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: You also get ad free listening, plus an exclusive Disgraceland 599 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: episode full episode per month. All right, that's a lot 600 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: of content for five bucks. All you gotta do is 601 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: become an All Access member is to go to disgrace 602 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: lampod dot com slash membership. That's my dog scratching your 603 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: neck in the background. Can you hear that, Dusty? What 604 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: are you doing all right? 605 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: I gonna take a break back in Flash. 606 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: All right, we are back guys, a bunch of cool 607 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: archive episodes. As always mentioned in this bonus episode Grateful Dead, 608 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: Public Enemy, Lana del Rey, Charles Manson, we mentioned Shack. 609 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: He shows up in the Kobe episode, an episode that 610 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: has turned out to be quite controversial amongst disgrace and listeners. 611 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: To put it charitably, Matt is gonna, as always, Matt's 612 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna have the episode information episode number in the show 613 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: notes on all these archive episodes for you to check out. 614 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: So guys, get into the archive. Check out these episodes. 615 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Go give him a relisten you learn so much more 616 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: on re listen. I know I do. All right, let's recap, 617 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: shall we? Number one? I want your story? Call me, 618 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: text me, hit me up on the socials with your 619 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: favorite story of rock and roll animalism, a wild story 620 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: about a rock star that you're aware of, or that 621 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: you want to tell me that I've already told you 622 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: that you know more about than I do. I don't 623 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: know a story you and your friends continuously talk about, 624 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe something that happened to you, Okay, and in the process, 625 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: tell me who you are. Tell me where you're from, 626 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: and how long you've been listening to disgrace? Ain al right? 627 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: Number two right now in your feed hour episode on 628 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Louis Armstrong. Number three coming tomorrow. Rewinding back to our 629 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: sly Stone episode number four, merch Winners get in touch. 630 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: You know who you are. Number five. Remember no one 631 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: cares about preserving the true spirit of rock and roll 632 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: more than you do. And well that's a disgrace, all right. 633 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: This week's episode subject, Louis Armstrong, passed away on July sixth, 634 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one. And here are the billboard charts from 635 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: the day this musical icon died. Number one. It's too late. 636 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: I feel the earth move under my feet Carol King 637 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: last week one peak position one weeks on chart nine, 638 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: number two Indian Reservation the Raiders, last week four peak 639 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: position two on Charge thirteen, number three. Treat like a 640 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: Lady Cornelius, Brothers and Sister Rose number last last your 641 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: peak position three weeks on Church thirteen, Number four, Rainy 642 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: Days and Mondays Carpenters last position peak position on two 643 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: weeks on Shore eighteen. Number five. Don't quit talking and 644 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: start mixing. 645 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: Cut