WEBVTT - Friday Flight - EV Breakthroughs, Early Retirement Downsides, and Pricey Dumbbells #261

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we're discussing e V breakthroughs, early retirement downsides,

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<v Speaker 1>and pricey dumbbells. How's it going? Many do it? I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a beautiful morning. I mentioned that because of

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<v Speaker 1>the past few days have actually been pretty rainy, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've been sticking it out. I noticed you continued to

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<v Speaker 1>bike over here to the uh our little basement studio

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<v Speaker 1>you got you know, you had your bike, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you had your wet weather gear on as well. You're

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<v Speaker 1>committed to the bike hustle, dude. Yeah, it's I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that gear is so clutch for being able to

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<v Speaker 1>ride through the rain, and especially when it's sprinkling, It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's like no brainer. It's not a big deal. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>if it's raining super hard, it's hard to see or

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<v Speaker 1>you get soaked any way. But yeah, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of gear you have on if it's pouring

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<v Speaker 1>and you're still gonna get completely drenched. But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>with a drizzle, having a nice jacket somebot light weather

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<v Speaker 1>gear is easily enough to to keep you dry, especially

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<v Speaker 1>as the weather is cooling down a little bit. Now, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the cooler temperatures plus a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>water can really chill you to the bone if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the proper gear. So that's true. Well all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so speaking of biking, I broke down and bought my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>We we ended up person a spin bike a stationary

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<v Speaker 1>bike for Tide, which is funny because we joked about

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<v Speaker 1>this on Wednesday's episode about about you splurging on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his and hers peloton. Yeah, but you know Emily wants

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<v Speaker 1>you to ride next to her on a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollar bids It's not gonna happen. So yeah, we definitely

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<v Speaker 1>went non peloton because those things are crazy expensive and

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<v Speaker 1>almost have like this cult like following, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>like they make a great product, people are into it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but we ended up going to play it against sports,

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<v Speaker 1>which is did not know that those still exist. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they still exist, and actually I think they're actually doing

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<v Speaker 1>well through the pandemic because people are into outdoor gear

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<v Speaker 1>and workout equipment and stuff like that. So I went

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<v Speaker 1>to our nearest played against sports. Um got an awesome

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<v Speaker 1>spin bike for Emily and she's super into it, super excited,

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<v Speaker 1>and the great thing I think we talked about um

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<v Speaker 1>on on Wednesday's episode was maybe cutting back on a

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<v Speaker 1>gym membership, and that's something we've done. So we were

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<v Speaker 1>members of the y m c A. My wife really

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<v Speaker 1>loves going there, and so that was that was something

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<v Speaker 1>that we were like, all right, well, how many months

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<v Speaker 1>of the y membership will you know this this spin

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<v Speaker 1>bike cost? And so all right, we got to cancel

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<v Speaker 1>the membership for at least at least that many months.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows when or if we'll be going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the y m c A. UM, but yeah, like she's

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<v Speaker 1>loving the spin bike and working out at home, and

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say too, there are so many free ways

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<v Speaker 1>that you can get workouts for your bike. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay for a monthly subscription to something like peloton. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's free workout videos on YouTube, YouTube on Facebook. Like

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<v Speaker 1>her her favorite spin instructor at the y m c

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<v Speaker 1>A is like releasing free workout videos on Facebook. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's aw well. On the note of spin Bike's team,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see that it was on actually didn't release

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<v Speaker 1>a prime bike. I did see that it's a company

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<v Speaker 1>had created this bike, and they claimed that it was

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<v Speaker 1>this is maybe a couple of weeks ago, maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>made in conjunction with Amazon, but yeah, exactly, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like this partnership thing, and they called it the Prime Bike,

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<v Speaker 1>and when they released that, people went crazy, and actually

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<v Speaker 1>I think I saw that the Peloton stock like drops

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fear of the competition. But it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that was a lie. That actually wasn't the case,

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<v Speaker 1>and Amazon quickly put out a statement saying that like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't yeh. By late that morning, it was like

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<v Speaker 1>pulled off the website. Yeah, which is so funny. But

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<v Speaker 1>I find it really interesting though, how the generic brand

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<v Speaker 1>of of Prime right via Amazon, how it carries so

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<v Speaker 1>much weight with it. You know how when we see

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<v Speaker 1>that something's, oh, a Prime Bike, it makes it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like something that's a little more premium, which is at

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<v Speaker 1>least that's how I view it, you know, um, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that you can kind of count on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's solid, it's not going to be the fanciest, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be really good when it's only available

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<v Speaker 1>for if you are a Prime member, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>of course, yeah yeah, And so I think, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>that just speaks to how well they've positioned their own

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<v Speaker 1>products and how much you know that name prime, how

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<v Speaker 1>much that can sway consumers and and and just attitudes

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<v Speaker 1>towards their products. But but yeah, all that's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a farce. It's true reality. But it is interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>note that if Amazon does you know, now, maybe they're thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we will great one and uh, Pelaton better beware

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<v Speaker 1>if that happens, because it's going to eat into their sales.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's get into our Friday flight sampling of

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<v Speaker 1>stories that we found interesting this week, stories that impact

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<v Speaker 1>our personal finances. And speaking of exercise, um, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>really interesting to see how expensive or out of stock

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<v Speaker 1>and basic workout equipment has become. I think that's another

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<v Speaker 1>reason why I played against sports has been just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of overrun with with people coming to buy stuff used

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<v Speaker 1>and and and and they sell new stuff too. But

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<v Speaker 1>dumbbells in particular cost so much. It's been interesting to

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<v Speaker 1>see some of the stories that one can you even

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<v Speaker 1>find them and exactly yeah, and then too if you

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<v Speaker 1>can often there on resale sites like eBay and Facebook marketplace,

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<v Speaker 1>and the listings are for five, six, seven times the

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<v Speaker 1>price of what they typically normally cost because the supply

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<v Speaker 1>is almost non existent. Um so, uh, we got one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that we've been doing because Emily has like one

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<v Speaker 1>set of dumbells that she's had for for quite a

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<v Speaker 1>while and says, we only have one set, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we're working out together, I'm just using our one year

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<v Speaker 1>old as like, yeah, so lifting him up and down,

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<v Speaker 1>doing some curls with him, and so I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>enjoys that as well. Yeah, it's kind of fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun, So use what you got and don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily pay five times as much for dumbbells then what

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<v Speaker 1>you know what they're worth. Yeah, And like, there are

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<v Speaker 1>so many exercises as well that you can do with

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<v Speaker 1>your own body weight master, like just like burpies in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>like the high jumping burpee I think is what you

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<v Speaker 1>call it, But that's where you do a burpie, but

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<v Speaker 1>you you jump up as high as you can and

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<v Speaker 1>when you drop down you do a push up. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>you do like ten twenty of those. Do a few

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<v Speaker 1>sets of those like that will seriously get your heart

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<v Speaker 1>rate up. But I mean, I'm with you regarding the dumbells.

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<v Speaker 1>We uh, I think maybe back in January I purchased

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<v Speaker 1>like a forty five pound kettle bell just to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do some swings, you know, to keep a

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<v Speaker 1>strong back. And Kate realized several months ago, She's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something I want to do as well, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I went looking for a kettle bell that was more

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate for her strength. Dude, they don't even sell them anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an Amazon product. It was like Amazon Prime,

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<v Speaker 1>vinyl coded Amazon Basics. Yeah, yeah, basics maybe, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was just a vinyl coded kettle bell. And they're not

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<v Speaker 1>even making them anymore because I think just because of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, supply chain issues, but so it's difficult to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get your hands on them, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and no to that, you know. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is the case where shopping secondhand maybe could even cost

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<v Speaker 1>you more because of the topsy turvy market we're in.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it all comes down to supply and demand.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of supply. There is a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of demand for folks wanting to work out at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're looking for some weights, typically would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>for folks go to like the Facebook marketplace, but you

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<v Speaker 1>actually might find the prices there to be sky high.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think this might be a case we're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for more stock to arrive at retailers or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shopping out a place like like you did, man like

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<v Speaker 1>played against sports. We'll we'll help folks to avoid the

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<v Speaker 1>crazy costs that into jewels are charging these days. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and and look for Matt's new YouTube channel workout video.

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Simmons like workout videos. That's gonna be it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great. If you get me a leotard like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I will wear it. People will love it. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna gain a massive following. Let's get onto

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<v Speaker 1>the to the next story we found interesting this week, Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>California has banned new gas powered cars by the year.

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<v Speaker 1>That means fifteen years from now, you won't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a new gas powered car in the entire state. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this won't prevent people from owning, selling, or buying used

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<v Speaker 1>gas powered vehicles in California. Um. And it's a move

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<v Speaker 1>that I think will accelerate the adoption of electric vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>in our entire country. And I say country because California

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<v Speaker 1>has so much power based on their sheer population size,

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<v Speaker 1>They're they're like like twelve of the overall population of

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Um So, any decision that's made in the

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<v Speaker 1>state of California has this domino like effect of what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to like the automotive industry in this case as

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<v Speaker 1>a whole. And I just see this decision in particular

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<v Speaker 1>leading a lot of Mania actors to start rethinking their

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<v Speaker 1>plans for the next couple of decades of what cars

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<v Speaker 1>they're planning to manufacture and moving hard in the e

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<v Speaker 1>V direction. Yeah, something else too that I think we'll

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<v Speaker 1>propel it along is in addition to this California state law,

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla battery breakthroughs are gonna also help to push down

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<v Speaker 1>the prices of electric vehicles. Man prices have already plummeted significantly.

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<v Speaker 1>A story in Ours Technica showed that over the past

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<v Speaker 1>ten years, the cost of batteries has dropped nearly So

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<v Speaker 1>when a large portion of an electric vehicles cost is

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<v Speaker 1>the battery is the technology that goes into its power,

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<v Speaker 1>big improvements on that technology can really bring down the cost,

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<v Speaker 1>and more innovation is is on the way to According

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<v Speaker 1>to Elon Musk, you know, we're we're set to see

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five dollar tesla's just three years from now, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an incredible sign that evs will will quickly become

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<v Speaker 1>the new vehicle of choice for for many Americans the

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<v Speaker 1>near future. Yeah, I feel like I read so many

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<v Speaker 1>stories this week about electric vehicles, about batteries, and just

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<v Speaker 1>to see kind of what's happening in that space. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>ars from now, fifteen years from now, for sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine many of us will be considering buying a

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<v Speaker 1>new gas powered vehicle. And on top of that, Consumer

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<v Speaker 1>Reports just published their own research that they did that

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<v Speaker 1>shows that the maintenance cost for an electric vehicle are

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<v Speaker 1>less than half of that for a gas powered vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically, consumers who purchase an electric car can expect

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<v Speaker 1>to save an average of four thousand, six d dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in repair and maintenance costs over the life of that

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle compared to a gasoline powered car. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like everything I'm reading this week makes e vs come

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<v Speaker 1>out smelling like roses. I've got my Niecean Leaf which

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<v Speaker 1>has a range of like twenty miles. Now it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>degraded over time. It's not that great. But the new

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<v Speaker 1>evs that are coming out and the new battery capabilities

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<v Speaker 1>are just changing the game. They're making people less anxious

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<v Speaker 1>about the range of that vehicle. Um and as the

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<v Speaker 1>costs come down to I mean, evs are quickly becoming

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<v Speaker 1>and quickly will continue to become more of a no

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<v Speaker 1>brainer decision for for a lot of people. I think. Yeah. Know,

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<v Speaker 1>for us though, like the b this issue is range,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and when we have only one vehicle, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to hop in that vehicle and

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<v Speaker 1>road trip with it essentially. And so for me at least,

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<v Speaker 1>that that's our biggest barrier, is the ability to to

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<v Speaker 1>travel longer distances, you know. But with these battery improvements,

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<v Speaker 1>I see that coming. I see five years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>like the range is going to be greatly improved and

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<v Speaker 1>so like, not only are the costs coming down, the

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<v Speaker 1>batteries are just going to have more capacity and you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to go further in the car that

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<v Speaker 1>you're buying. Well, if that's the case, then I'm all

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<v Speaker 1>for it. You know, Like if I can drive twelve

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<v Speaker 1>hours in one day basically with very few stops you

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<v Speaker 1>know where you know, kind of just like top off

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<v Speaker 1>the battery a little bit, maybe at a charging station,

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<v Speaker 1>I am for that. But until that's the case, man,

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<v Speaker 1>until that's the reality. I think it's gonna be. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna stick with our old gasoline powered vehicle for maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the next decade or so. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to drive that thing into the ground. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be I wanted to look like my iPhone just battered

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<v Speaker 1>and bruised. Yeah, just crack glass everywhere. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you want that. Yeah, I don't actually want that

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<v Speaker 1>to case, but no, but yeah, I understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And Matt. On the note of gasoline driving a gas

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<v Speaker 1>power car, there was an interesting article that I read

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<v Speaker 1>in USA today about states raising gasoline taxes right now

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<v Speaker 1>as gas prices have fallen and demand has fallen. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>states need to make up revenue in order to pay

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<v Speaker 1>uh to to maintain road systems. In New Jersey just

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<v Speaker 1>made apparently the biggest hike in gas tax of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, close to ten cents a gallon. Other states

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<v Speaker 1>recently have implemented increases in the gas tax, like California, Virginia, Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, and Alabama. UM. So yeah, just note that

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<v Speaker 1>while gas prices are down, a lot of states are

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<v Speaker 1>increasing their gas tax um. And it's something that you

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<v Speaker 1>might barely even notice. Um, but and I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like nobody like loves gas prices going up, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is one of these things that is necessary in order

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to maintain the roads for us all to

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<v Speaker 1>drive on. Right. Yeah, man, that's rights. Uh. And so

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<v Speaker 1>let let's talk now about paying for student loans. Google

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<v Speaker 1>announced recently that they will be helping their employees pay

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<v Speaker 1>off their student loans. Man, starting in one Google will

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<v Speaker 1>match in payments towards the student loans of the folks

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<v Speaker 1>who work there. We're seeing more and more companies attempting

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<v Speaker 1>to step up their game helping workers with the burden

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<v Speaker 1>of student loans. I love that this benefit is becoming

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<v Speaker 1>more mainstream. In the past, we've seen different companies step

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<v Speaker 1>up and say pay for some additional education, right, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that be just specific courses or even you know, companies

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<v Speaker 1>paying for an m b A for somebody who works there.

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<v Speaker 1>But to see companies like Google now pay student loans

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<v Speaker 1>that you've already incurred, I think that's a fantastic benefit

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like like when Anthony was on

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<v Speaker 1>the show on Monday, Matt he talked about not taking

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<v Speaker 1>on debt for school, and you and I we agree.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd love to see high school students not take on

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<v Speaker 1>debt for their education, or at least keep it to

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum. But it's also good to see that companies

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<v Speaker 1>are realizing the benefits of partnering in that loan payoff

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<v Speaker 1>with their employees because it has become such a massive burden.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you do have student loan debt and you're

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<v Speaker 1>interviewing for a new job, look at additional non salary

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<v Speaker 1>benefits that are being offered by your company and advocate

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<v Speaker 1>for yourself and negotiate your higher compensation package. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>always about that bottom line number of what this about

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<v Speaker 1>the salary, because those intangibles, those extra benefits that a

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<v Speaker 1>company offers can add up to thousands and thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in additional benefits that can be really, really meaningful.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes that interviewing process maybe a little more complicated,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, we live in a complicated world. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>All the note of paying for college, filling out the FAFSA,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Man, that is even more important right now, specifically

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<v Speaker 1>this year. If you're going to be a student, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a student in college for two academic year,

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<v Speaker 1>the information that you used to fill out the FASTA

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<v Speaker 1>this year will be based on twenty nineteen taxes, which

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously before many of us were impacted by the shutdowns, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so any financial aid should be based on your

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<v Speaker 1>current situation, not last year's. So make sure that you

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<v Speaker 1>file early because you'll need time to then request a

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<v Speaker 1>professional judgment. Oh and then people might be wondering, what's

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<v Speaker 1>a professional judgment? Professional judgment, I'm a professional judge or so,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, no, not but uh, what what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>What that means is is when you contact a financial

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<v Speaker 1>aid office at any of the schools you're applying to

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<v Speaker 1>in order to submit up to date information that would

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<v Speaker 1>give the school the clearest picture of your financial situation, right,

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<v Speaker 1>information like if you if you've been laid off or furloughed,

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<v Speaker 1>those notices, unemployment checks, or medical bills that you've incurred. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>any of these documents that are going to help clear

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<v Speaker 1>up what your current financial situation is could help you

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<v Speaker 1>qualify for more assistance than what your FASTEST shows. Because again,

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<v Speaker 1>like Matt said, we're talking about last year's numbers on

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<v Speaker 1>the fast STA, but things have changed quite a bit

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<v Speaker 1>this year. And so yeah, you need to file early

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<v Speaker 1>so you can request that professional judgment, and if your

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<v Speaker 1>situation is drastically changed, you should be able to find

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more financial aid resources. That's right, man. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a few more stories to get to after

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<v Speaker 1>the break. We're gonna talk about what retail looks like

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<v Speaker 1>this fall, as well as financial independence and retiring early.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to those stories plus a couple more right

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<v Speaker 1>after the break. All right, we're back in the break

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<v Speaker 1>and Matt. Early on we talked about the Prime bike

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't to be, then that didn't actually exist, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're going to talk about Amazon just announced their

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Day recently, I think last week. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>are a Prime member, I think sometimes people get annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>with us talking about Amazon. I love them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hate them. Yeah, it's kind of love hate relationship. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the interesting thing about Prime Day happening on

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<v Speaker 1>October four is that a lot of people follow suit

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<v Speaker 1>and also have sales on those same days. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a way for Amazon to try to increase the attachment

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<v Speaker 1>that it's loyal customers have to the site. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time, a lot of other retailers, including a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of small businesses creates sales on similar days to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of create this effect of like a second Black

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<v Speaker 1>Friday essentially. Um And the important thing to note now

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<v Speaker 1>is that you shouldn't be waiting until the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>to do your Christmas shopping, and something like Prime Day

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<v Speaker 1>could be the perfect time for you to start buying

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<v Speaker 1>gifts for your loved ones, and not necessarily at Amazon. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>other retailers are jumping on board, specifically Target. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they are having what they're calling sales days on the

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<v Speaker 1>exact same days that Prime Days are happening and the fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is an interesting effect, you know, because typically

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Day happens in the summer, right. But because of COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>that's something that they kind of kicked down the road

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I think a lot of it had

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the fact that they couldn't keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with demand. There were so many purchases that were already

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<v Speaker 1>happening due to COVID that it just wasn't feasible for

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<v Speaker 1>them to then have additional sales on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I think it probably would have looked bad if

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, guess what, we're gonna have Prime Days

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of capitalize on the fact that people are

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<v Speaker 1>shopping more from home anyway. But but like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it will shift the even though we're shifting

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Day back, it sort of shifts the holiday shopping

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<v Speaker 1>season forward just slightly. But maybe that is a smart

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do as well, because of you know, shipping delays.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've noticed, but like we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>packages that say they're gonna show up on a Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're lucky if if they show up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>before the weekend. Yeah, I feel like I'm pulling my

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<v Speaker 1>hair out looking at FedEx tracking numbers sometimes. Um, like

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<v Speaker 1>in particular on on the newest version of the rad

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<v Speaker 1>Wagon that I purchased, it's just like keeps getting delayed

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<v Speaker 1>and delayed and supposed to show up at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of September, but you're getting that delay. Um probably it

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<v Speaker 1>might be mid October at this point. Who is Yeah? So,

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<v Speaker 1>which is which is fine? Right, It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just another reason for people to plan ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and to and especially since we're doing more online shopping

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<v Speaker 1>by by gifts for your loved ones earlier than you

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<v Speaker 1>normally would because of those shipping delays and because sales

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<v Speaker 1>are happening too. Yeah, so you can finally snag that

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<v Speaker 1>instant pot if that's still the hot item that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, five years behind the curve ofears pot Now

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<v Speaker 1>all right, man. We we often talk about fire right,

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<v Speaker 1>financial independence, retire early, but we mostly tend to focus

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<v Speaker 1>on the first part, the financial independence part. We believe

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<v Speaker 1>that financial independence gives individuals the flexibility and opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>do pretty much whatever they would like to with their time. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you're not beholden to a job in

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<v Speaker 1>order to earn an in come, you're financially independent and

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<v Speaker 1>you have freedom over your life. If that sounds amazing

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<v Speaker 1>to you, we are with you. That's an amazing goal

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<v Speaker 1>to have. But you know, how you spend your time

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<v Speaker 1>can can have a big impact on your brain. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a recent study, mat and I think it actually

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<v Speaker 1>lends credence to the fact that of of why you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are not fans of the r E part

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<v Speaker 1>of the retire early part. The new research is based

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<v Speaker 1>on this retirement program in China, and it shows that

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<v Speaker 1>within a couple of years of participants retiring, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>noticeable amount of cognitive decline. Specifically, the largest negative effect

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<v Speaker 1>was measured in something called delayed recall, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>individual's ability to recall something that was mentioned just a

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes earlier. This is like an on a short

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<v Speaker 1>nigger movie when he gets older, like the lay recall

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<v Speaker 1>exactly well. And and this it's not surprising either, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because while we're at work, most of our minds are

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<v Speaker 1>are challenged. And and if we stop working, that sharpening

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<v Speaker 1>that's happening to our brains while we're working just isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going on anymore, and so our brains can essentially get

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<v Speaker 1>out of shape. Um. There's like a saying, if you rest,

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<v Speaker 1>you rust, And I think that's an important thing to

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<v Speaker 1>think about when we're thinking about what retirement looks like. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>They also cited that with retirement there's a decrease in

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<v Speaker 1>social activities too. Um, I guess right now, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>having a massive decrease in social activities. We're not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>our coworkers, there's no water cooler talk. But this intuitively

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense because a lot of our friendships and relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are associated with the work that we do. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if we opt to retire early or even when we

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<v Speaker 1>retire at normal age. Um, it is important to keep

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<v Speaker 1>some of those things going because it's good for our brains. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, for this reason, that's why we're pretty big

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<v Speaker 1>on the financial independence aspect of fire right unless the

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<v Speaker 1>R E side of the acronym, and especially here in

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<v Speaker 1>the US, you know, retiring it often carries a negative

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<v Speaker 1>connotation of of not doing anything, and and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>what we're all about here and so but here's the thing, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I am less concerned about the mind of like younger

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<v Speaker 1>professionals you know, who are excelling at work, taking on

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<v Speaker 1>new roles, or maybe like a couple with kids who

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<v Speaker 1>are creatively finding ways to cut back their expenses. If

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<v Speaker 1>they retire early, then I might think that their brains

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to be engaged. I would assume that there

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<v Speaker 1>might be additional, like, you know, new opportunities that would

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<v Speaker 1>present themselves as they're likely working towards something, or that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're retiring towards something. But I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a concern for individuals who have maybe worked their entire

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<v Speaker 1>lives in a standard nine to five where they have

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<v Speaker 1>retirement taken care of. Maybe they even have a company

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<v Speaker 1>pension and they're not necessarily working towards anything specific. When

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<v Speaker 1>you retire early, you know, I've seen that it's typically

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<v Speaker 1>because you're working towards something else. But when you retire

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<v Speaker 1>on time at sixty five, you don't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 1>have that next big thing lined up. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I see how retirement could have some some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>negative effects. So yeah, man, you know, I'm not totally

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<v Speaker 1>showing this, but like I feel that this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I could see how retirement could have, you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>pretty negative effects. Yeah. Yeah, I think, just anecdotally, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen in some of the people that I love when

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<v Speaker 1>they were tired, if they didn't have multiple hobbies that

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<v Speaker 1>that they were really into, or areas of service where

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<v Speaker 1>they were plugged in working alongside other people, caring for others,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like there was a noticeable drop off in

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<v Speaker 1>their social and cognitive abilities. And so yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's important to be plugged into something meaningful, to hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>multiple meaningful things as you get older and when you retire. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like you mentioned to, the pandemic has only I

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<v Speaker 1>think amplified this. Like we have seen how social isolation,

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<v Speaker 1>how that can have a negative effect on us and

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<v Speaker 1>so I think it's important to look ahead and see

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<v Speaker 1>how how this actually might affect you down the road

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<v Speaker 1>when it does come time to retire. Yeah, you're almost

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<v Speaker 1>getting like, obviously we're still with so many of us

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<v Speaker 1>are still working and working from home. It just looks different.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you are getting somewhat of a preview of

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<v Speaker 1>what retirement and that kind of isolation could look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you going to be able to be motivated to

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<v Speaker 1>work on something on your own from home or or

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<v Speaker 1>is that going to be difficult? And so, Yeah, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I think people get too excited about quitting work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay to quit work and engage in other activities.

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<v Speaker 1>Just make sure there are other meaningful activities to engage in.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, does that mean that we're against retirement, No way, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But but regardless, if you're looking to retire early at

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<v Speaker 1>age like thirty five or forty or on time closer

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<v Speaker 1>to age sixty five, it's important to to work towards

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<v Speaker 1>having that healthy social life, keeping your mind engaged in sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>making sure you have relationships outside of your job, or

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<v Speaker 1>if you really are good friends with your coworkers, that

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<v Speaker 1>those relationships also exist outside of just the work context,

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<v Speaker 1>and then hang out on the weekends living life, like

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<v Speaker 1>going for a hike, doing doing the stuff, life stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>getting out in nature exactly. And then when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to keeping your mind sharp, it's good to have outlets

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<v Speaker 1>that you're working towards, volunteering a personal entrepreneurial endeavor, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even another job, a part time job, doing something

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<v Speaker 1>you've always wanted to do. Um, now that you have

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<v Speaker 1>the financial means you can do that lower paying job.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems exciting, because when you're financially independent, you can

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<v Speaker 1>take a job or a position that's less demaining or

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<v Speaker 1>more creatively fulfilling. It's not all about the salary um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just one of those interesting things to consider.

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<v Speaker 1>That study just kind of prompted some thoughts from Matt

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<v Speaker 1>and I about retirement and staying sharp. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think retirement sounds great. And then for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>they get there, they quit their job, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>a little aimless and it's not as fulfilling as they

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<v Speaker 1>hoped it would be. Yeah, and so on the note

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<v Speaker 1>of retiring actually a fidelity, they released some guidelines on

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<v Speaker 1>how much you should have saved by specific ages in

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<v Speaker 1>order to traditionally retire right, uh. And the rule of

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<v Speaker 1>thumb said that we should shoot for having one times

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<v Speaker 1>your salary by the age of thirty, three times your

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<v Speaker 1>age by forty, and then six times your salary your

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<v Speaker 1>annual salary by the age of fifty, and then so

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<v Speaker 1>on as well. But you know, this might sound impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of folks, but you know what I I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole saving and investing thing, it's a long game.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we often underestimate the power of compound interest.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something recently that was illustrating the power of

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<v Speaker 1>compound interest, and they were saying, how like if you

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<v Speaker 1>do a plus eight and then you do that seven

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<v Speaker 1>more times, right, so, like a plus eight a total

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<v Speaker 1>of eight times, you can easily calculate in your mind

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<v Speaker 1>what that's going to be sixty four are right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense, It's it's not that difficult. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you do eight times eight and you do that seven

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<v Speaker 1>more times, I don't even know. Well, and it's well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, it's over sixteen million. Uh. It is

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<v Speaker 1>just so hard for us to wrap our brains around compounding.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's essentially what you know, our money invested in

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<v Speaker 1>the market does like it sits there. You earn money

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<v Speaker 1>on that money, and then the money that you have total,

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<v Speaker 1>you earn more interests on that money, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>so on and so forth, right, Like that is compound interest.

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<v Speaker 1>So I use that illustration just to encourage folks because

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<v Speaker 1>it's not necessarily about having that you know, you setting

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<v Speaker 1>aside every single one of those dollars. It's about getting

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<v Speaker 1>investing and if you can, getting invested early, because the

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<v Speaker 1>more time you have on your side for the money

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<v Speaker 1>that you set aside to earn interest, the better off

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be in the long term. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>more you're able to set aside today means the that

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to set aside less in your older

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<v Speaker 1>working years, right because that that dollar has a much

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<v Speaker 1>greater impact right now than it will further on down

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<v Speaker 1>the road. And sometimes I had day to give those

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<v Speaker 1>numbers from studies like this, like fidelities, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is it's helpful for people to see those numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't let those numbers get you down, um and

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<v Speaker 1>and know that if you see that and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm nowhere close to that number, well you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people aren't anywhere close to that number, but those

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<v Speaker 1>are hard numbers to achieve. And so yeah, getting started,

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<v Speaker 1>um increasing that contribution by one or two percent every

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<v Speaker 1>time that you get a raise or twice a year, like,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you can do to to slightly increase it over time,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to have a massive impact. If you're not there, like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't kick yourself, you can do it, and and just

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's these small changes that we can continue to

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<v Speaker 1>implement over time that are going to actually help us

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<v Speaker 1>get there over the long haul. But we're just not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it in like a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the next couple of weeks or months. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, man, exactly. All right, Well that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>uh it for this episode. Leteners can find our shown

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<v Speaker 1>It's up on our website at how to money dot com. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend and Matt. That's going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode until next time. Best Friends Out, Best

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<v Speaker 1>Friends Out,