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Speaker 1: The volume What is going on Everybody? John Middlecoff three

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Speaker 1: and out podcast live here from Radio Row. Yeah. Man,

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Speaker 1: I just don't even know what to say. I don't

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Speaker 1: know why they call it Radio Row. Probably should be

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Speaker 1: Podcast Row. But I'm going to talk about the experience.

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Speaker 1: Here we have Kendrick Bourne, who played for the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers this year, played for the Patriots and the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers before that. He will join us as well.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to get chirm who I was with

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Speaker 1: earlier this morning. That'd be Richard Sherman, but he he

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Speaker 1: kind of snuck his way out of here when I

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Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention. So he may promises it'll come on after.

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Speaker 1: But you guys know the drill. Subscribe to the podcast

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Speaker 1: if you listen on Collins Feed. You obviously can see

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Speaker 1: us on Netflix, and you can find that Kendrick Bourne

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Speaker 1: interview on netil Flick. You can find the uh al

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Speaker 1: Guido the al Guido interview. Me and Jackson ran into

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Speaker 1: Alguido and John Lynch last night when we were hanging

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Speaker 1: out with our friends Ronnie Lott and Joe Montana. None

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Speaker 1: of them actually talked to us, but we were all

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Speaker 1: Al alone because he was a busy man. But you

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Speaker 1: can see that all on Netflix. And let's talk some football.

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Speaker 1: Me and Jackson went last night to watch nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: nine forty nine er team did like a Knight of

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Speaker 1: Champions and it was Ronnie Lott, Joe Montana, Tom Rathman,

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Speaker 1: it was it was really really cool. And one takeaway

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Speaker 1: I had from that actually, and I told Sherman this

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Speaker 1: this morning, I feel like Ronnie Lott is the most

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Speaker 1: underappreciated player in the history of sports. Like I feel

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Speaker 1: like when you just bring up random names like Mickey Mannle,

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Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain, whoever, just like really famous all time great players,

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Speaker 1: everyone's like, ah, I feel like no one ever brings

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Speaker 1: up Ronnie Lott and Joe Montana. Last night was like

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott does not get the appreciation that he deserves.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty one, he was drafted, they immediately won

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Speaker 1: It's like he hit like John Lynch, he could cover

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Speaker 1: like he was Reevus, and we just don't talk about him.

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Speaker 1: So that's my little soapbox rant right now. Is Ronnie

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Speaker 1: Lott is criminally underrated. I mean criminally, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's underrated in a sense like people that talk

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Speaker 1: but no one ever talks about him. Everyone's fucking talking

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Speaker 1: about Anthony Davis getting traded and all these things, Like

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Speaker 1: freaking love Ronnie Lot. He's just football is built on

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Speaker 1: guys like that. Even Joe Montana Jackson, you were there,

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Speaker 1: pointed Ronnie Lott, hard and soul. The team that being said,

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Speaker 1: Seattle's in the super Bowl and they're probably gonna win

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Speaker 1: it in the forty nine Ers stadium. So there's that,

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Speaker 1: and uh yeah. Other than that, I want to San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep your head on a swivel when you're

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Speaker 1: though it's like sixty five degrees. You gotta be carefuls

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Speaker 1: The thing about San Francisco and the Bay Arey in general,

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Speaker 1: you wake up and it's cold, so you're wearing jeans,

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Speaker 1: Okay, here with the LSU legend, multiple time All Pro

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. You know, during during during fall, during August

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Speaker 3: definitely something I might need to take, you know, take

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Speaker 1: Have you done that before? During during the training camp game? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I did last year.

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Speaker 3: I did last year and they said, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny, You're obviously fun guy, come here,

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Speaker 1: You just said something last week and it's everywhere you look, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean typically you come here, times are good, You've

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Speaker 1: his takes on VOT. I got about three questions quarterback GM.

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Speaker 1: You get nervous when you come into that no one

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Sam? I mean, obviously had

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Speaker 3: Definitely had a great season last year, but he bounced

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Speaker 3: asking if he's able to do that again to what

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Speaker 1: When did you know last year, Okay, this is gonna

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Speaker 4: Man, Jo? How you doing?

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Speaker 4: Good Man? Life's good, man, Biden?

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Speaker 1: What a season?

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Speaker 4: But it was a good journey.

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Speaker 1: What week did you sign?

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Speaker 4: I signed week two? Week two, Yeah, a Seattle game.

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Speaker 5: You got to be ten crazy man. So just life's good, man,

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just this is my first time being released. This

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you know, obviously the nine or

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Speaker 5: So they got a good thing going. They going into

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Speaker 5: the off season with like seventy million or something.

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Speaker 1: So you want to.

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Speaker 4: It's a possibility. It's a possibility. You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm a free agent, so I'm willing to go ever

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Speaker 5: the best opportunity to present itself. I want to be

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Speaker 5: back in Sant fran That's my home. But hey man,

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Speaker 5: anybody give me a good opportunity to play, compete, help

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Speaker 5: a team win. That's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 1: What was it like playing for Kyle?

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Speaker 5: He's awesome, man smart. He actually helped me develop into

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Speaker 5: who I am today. You know, that's where I started,

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Speaker 5: and so like learning his playbook first was just tough

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Speaker 5: for a young guy, but it got me used to

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Speaker 5: the league.

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Speaker 4: So when I went from him the Josh McDaniels, it

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Speaker 4: was easy easier for me.

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Speaker 5: To translate Josh McDaniel's office into my mind and play.

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Speaker 5: So he helped me grow develop and I'm always thankful

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Speaker 5: for that.

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Speaker 1: Kyle's hard on white House.

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Speaker 4: So let's hit yeah, where his babies, bro? You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: The train runs through us, so like we got to

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Speaker 5: we got to operate it right, and he does a

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Speaker 5: good job of pushing us.

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Speaker 1: And you were around what the floor, Mike McDaniel, how

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Speaker 1: many head coaches obviously solid Demico. I mean, all these

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Speaker 1: guys run fat when you first got there.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: So you can see what Kyle develops and like the

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Speaker 5: culture he builds, and it's a strong foundation and I'm

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Speaker 5: blessed to say I was a part of that foundation.

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Speaker 4: You're starting on to nine.

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Speaker 5: Finishing six and ten, twenty eighteen, four and twelve Super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: Nigga Struggling in the next twenty twenty COVID. But the

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Speaker 5: culture was built in those four years. And then you

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Speaker 5: build coaches, you build people will have interests of Okay,

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Speaker 5: how are they doing it? And that's why you see

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Speaker 5: some many hit head coaches.

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Speaker 1: How many guys in the NFL have played for Kyle

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Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick? It can't be a long list.

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Speaker 4: That is a great question.

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Speaker 5: Somebody told me a story about me playing for both,

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Speaker 5: about build.

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Speaker 1: I'm just less than one hand.

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Speaker 5: Usually you might be right, So I'm like one, I

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Speaker 5: can't think of one one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: So somebody was like Kyle.

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Speaker 5: Kyle called Bill Belichick about me, like, hey, how's KB.

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Speaker 4: What is his attitude?

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Speaker 5: And Kyle gave him a good answer like hey, his

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Speaker 5: attitude is great. You're gonna love him. And then Bill

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Speaker 5: somehow talked to Colin's like, hey, man, I.

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Speaker 4: Do love this guy.

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Speaker 5: So hearing stuff like that, you know, it puts puts

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Speaker 5: credit to what I do in my attitude and how

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Speaker 5: I approach.

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Speaker 4: And now I'm blessed.

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Speaker 1: Man can be a little grumpy, you know, I was young,

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Speaker 1: you knowles.

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Speaker 5: Grumpy serious about you know what I'm saying, Like they

495
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Speaker 5: watching a lot of film, They're doing a lot of studying.

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Speaker 4: So you know, football is tough, so it.

497
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Speaker 5: Built so when you a person like me having charisma dancing,

498
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Speaker 5: it breaks the ice a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So it brings the joy in it. Man. But it's

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Speaker 4: a tough sport.

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Speaker 1: So that's why they think for Mac Jones rookie year,

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Speaker 1: yeahs made the playoffs that year. Yeah, you're playing that

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Speaker 1: game where you only had three pass attempts, right, I

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Speaker 1: guess Buffalo bro.

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Speaker 4: I had one handoff, so I was happy. But Josh

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Speaker 4: McDaniels ran the ball.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have a game like seventy No, okay,

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Speaker 1: oh you just ran the ball the whole He ran

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 5: So I think we had like one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: we won. Yeah, but that was the most one of

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Speaker 5: the most amazing game calls by Josh I've ever seen.

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Speaker 5: Just to run the ball fifty times and running three

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Speaker 5: three attempts, right, crazy bro, So it.

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Speaker 4: Just was.

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Speaker 1: I kind of forget.

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Speaker 4: Was it a win? Yes, it was like a wind gust.

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Speaker 4: That was crazy. But Josh, Josh Allen was thrown in that.

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Speaker 4: He wadn't care.

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Speaker 1: He was splitting the window.

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Speaker 4: He's powerful.

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Speaker 5: So that was a crazy game, crazy experience, just a

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Speaker 5: good time to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: I know you gotta get going. But what was like

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Speaker 1: playing you know Belichick now is in college. What was

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Speaker 1: that experience like for with Bill?

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Speaker 4: It was just life changing? Man. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Just to learn from somebody that knows it, Ud seriously,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Bill gave me my first payday.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm always thankful for that.

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Speaker 4: I always remember him for that.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is like when I'm sitting in my house,

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Speaker 5: like Patriots helped me get this, So I'm always rooting

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Speaker 5: for him. You know, even if I got released and

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Speaker 5: not playing, that stuff was important. So Bill gave me

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Speaker 5: the opportunity and I love him. He taught me a lot,

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Speaker 5: taught me how to be better in football, better in

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Speaker 5: life and just my day to day and I'm thankful

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Speaker 5: for him.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: To be a first ballot. He doesn't make sense, Bro.

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Speaker 1: That was that was insane.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't make sense, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I think every coach in the league would be the first.

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Speaker 1: Tell you he's incredible.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: People not watching football.

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Speaker 4: All the nonsense.

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Speaker 1: What about the year with Max's rookie year when you guys.

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Speaker 5: Made the playoffs, phenomenal, phenomenal, and that's what's crazy, Like,

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Speaker 5: it's funny to see the Patriots in it right now,

552
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Speaker 5: but they kind of had the sauce, they had the

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Speaker 5: script with Mac and where we were going, but then

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Speaker 5: coaching changes and it just it kind of went downhill

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Speaker 5: in our era over there.

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Speaker 1: So so you're a big Bill Belichick guy.

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Speaker 4: I really am, I really am. I love that guy.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: I saw him in North Carolina. I went to visit

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Speaker 5: him when I was in San Francisco. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 5: good just seeing him catching up and that's my god.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on everything, Kendrick, and good luck and.

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Speaker 4: For you, thank you, Bro. Appreciate having taking these shirt

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Speaker 4: and think brom

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Speaker 3: The volume