1 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: All right, it is way for Angela Yee, and we 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: have a really special guest in the building. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure who he was at first, so I 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: had to ask him his name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Hello, 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: cool J is here? 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: What's up? What's up? 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: We just had a conversation about if he's ever had 8 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: to introduce himself, like someone doesn't know and he swears 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: it has. 10 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 3: No one ever recognizes me. 11 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: That's a lie. 12 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 3: Ever never, I've never recognized. Everywhere I go, nobody knows me. 13 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: But congratulations on everything. I mean, it's amazing. 14 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: I can't remember like first hearing llll cool J myself, 15 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, coming up and you were only probably like 16 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: sixteen years old, the skinny kid dancing in front of 17 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: a radio. 18 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolute facts. 19 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: You know, I'm very grateful, you know what i mean, 20 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 3: Like having fun with it, you know what I'm saying, 21 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 3: Like that's what it's about, right, Like you dream it 22 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: that make it happen, and dream some more and then 23 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: make that happen. 24 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: I know, who would have thought that this much later? 25 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Like you're about to be back on tour. This has 26 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 1: been thirty years since you've done arena tours, right, who 27 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: could have ever thought that it would be like this. 28 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: I remember you said you had to explain what hip 29 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: hop was when you started performing one hundred percent. 30 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: Like I was in Maine. I did a concert Maine, 31 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 3: and you know, they had never seen it before at all, 32 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So they didn't know. Like 33 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: I was explaining to them what the DJ was doing, 34 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 3: my DJ cut creator with the records, going back and forth, 35 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: telling them I'm rapping this as a beat that I 36 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 3: had to take them to do a complete tutorial, you 37 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So, and a lot of places 38 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: I went it was that kind of a vibe. We 39 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: were like breaking new ground. There were no managers, there 40 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: was no market, you know. It was just like kind 41 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: of a new world. 42 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because New York was big on it first, so 43 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: it probably was different moving around different places because I 44 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: feel like in New York we did have like I 45 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: remember having to get a cassette tape out and tape 46 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: when certain shows would come on because you didn't know 47 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: when you would hear hip hop again. 48 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: It was only like a segment. 49 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was. 50 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: It only played on the weekends at the time you're 51 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: talking about, we'ld only play on the weekends for like 52 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: a couple of hours, maybe on Saturday night, maybe a 53 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: Friday and Saturday, but definitely Saturday. And you know, it 54 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: kind of evolved from then. You get a little more play, 55 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: a little more play, a little more play, and then 56 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: it eventually went to the mainstream, you know what I'm saying. 57 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: But ultimately it was initially it was definitely like underground. 58 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: But even before that, like it was it was just tapes. 59 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: It was just underground. It was just that's it, you 60 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 61 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: You remember the first time hearing yourself on the radio. 62 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, DJ read Alert played it. 63 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: He was like when he had first started, and it 64 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: was he was new to the not in DJ, but 65 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: new to the radio, newer to the radio. This was 66 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: after mister Magic, and you know, he played it and 67 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: I just was standing up like up on Farmers Boulevard 68 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 3: and Queens, New York, you know what I'm saying, and 69 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: in front of a game room, you know what I'm saying, 70 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: And I heard the record on the radio and it 71 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: was just like I felt like I hit the lot 72 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: old graduated. You know, everything happened at once. It was 73 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: the most amazing feeling in the world, you know what 74 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying, because it's like, you know, it felt like 75 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: a dream come true, you. 76 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: Know, and then Deaf Jan. You did your first deal 77 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: at deaf Jan. 78 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: Now I saw you said that you never had like 79 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: a really bad situation financially. You know, artists have like 80 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: these horror stories of I just gave up on my 81 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: everything and signed this deal and it was terrible. 82 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: But you said, yours wasn't that bad. 83 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: Well no, Well, first of all, you have to remember 84 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: death Jam was Deaf Jam Productions, and they had a 85 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: song called it Yours. I was the first artist on 86 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: death Jam. So we started the label. Russell and Rick 87 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: started the label, and we we went and did this 88 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: this this song I need to Beat. That ad rocked 89 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: from the Beastie Boys. He made the beat and Rick 90 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: produced you know, everything else around it, and JAZZJ did 91 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: the scratching and all of that, and it kind of 92 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: just went to a whole nother level. But no, I 93 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 3: didn't have a bad deal like I've you know, like 94 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 3: I ended up in a great place, you know what 95 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm saying. But that's just because you know, Russell was 96 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: an honest dude, and Rick was a real dude. And 97 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: you know, and then late many years later with Leo, 98 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: I made a deal and got my catalog back and 99 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: so so the whole, the whole thing kind of worked 100 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: out for me, you know what I'm saying, Like, but 101 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: I'm just thankful for that. 102 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. 103 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: And I see you had a lot of of great 104 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: business decisions. Was that something that was implemented you, like 105 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: in you with your family, because I'm times it's like 106 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: your family might have businesses or know things and they're like, nah, 107 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: you got to do it like this. 108 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: Nah. Nah. For me, it was trial and error and 109 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: being curious. You know, it was really just about like 110 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: staying curious. And what I did was I pay attention 111 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: to people in front of me and behind me, you 112 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So in other words, like you know, 113 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: like I always learned. One thing I knew earlier is 114 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: that you can learn something from anybody. You know, if 115 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: a homeless dude tell you don't do push ups in traffic, 116 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: you should probably listen and not say, oh, he's homeless, 117 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: So I'm not listening to that with does he know? 118 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 3: And we have a tendency to you know, like people 119 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: have a tendency to only want to listen to people 120 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: if they think they're successful. That's a mistake, right, you 121 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 122 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Anyone, Yes, you. 123 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: Can and they may not be. They may you know, 124 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: you know, you just got to know what to listen to. 125 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. If you're trying to climb 126 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: a tree, you shut you probably shouldn't talk to a fish, 127 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So you got to know 128 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: who you're talking to and what you're talking about. That 129 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 3: being said, yeah, it's just you know, the business thing. 130 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: Kind of intuitively, I just went after certain things and 131 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: you know, trialing Era made some mistakes, bumped some bruises 132 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: along the way, you know what I'm saying, But it 133 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 3: all worked out. 134 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: And you know what else I realize about you too, 135 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: now that I put everything back into perspective. Right, So 136 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: doing songs like everybody always used to be, like I 137 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: need to do what I need love song? Yeah, you know, 138 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: every hip hop artist at some point felt like they 139 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: needed one of those, like songs for the ladies that 140 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: was like a deep heartfelt song. Did you have any 141 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: idea what type of impact that was going to happen? 142 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: Did you think it would be risky to put something 143 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: like that out when you did it. 144 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: Well, I never paid attention to risk, and you can't. 145 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: You can't if you're an artist. You can't. Like you, 146 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: risk should be attractive to you as an artist, you 147 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Now, you know that's not like business, adventure, investments, 148 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: all of those things are different. But as an artist, 149 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: you know, I never cared about risk. So when I 150 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: made a love song, I just made it because that's 151 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: what I wanted to make. It didn't matter if somebody 152 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: felt like if like someone needed to judge me a 153 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: certain way, to like change my brand a certain way 154 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 3: in their eye, Like, I didn't care about that. All 155 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: I cared about was being true to who I am 156 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: as an artist. And that's all I still care about, 157 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: is like creating stuff that really speaks to where I'm 158 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: at at that point in my life and and really 159 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 3: presenting it to the world in a way that I 160 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: feel is you know, exciting. 161 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But then the next minute 162 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: you want to knock someone out. 163 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: All that. But we all have different sides, right, we 164 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: all have different sides. Right, You ain't gonna just be one. 165 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Person, you know what I'm saying what made you right 166 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: that what was going on? I'm knock you Out? 167 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 3: So that record came off that was me coming off. 168 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: See I had when I did a Walking with a Panther, 169 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: the album cover and all of that. That was a 170 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: time when I introduced a lot of diamonds and ice 171 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 3: and jewelry and champagne, yeah, and all of that. Like, 172 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: I really brought a lot of that to the world, 173 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: to the world and hip hop. You know, I've been 174 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 3: uptown a lot of you know, hang on a lot 175 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: of dudes uptown and and and that was just what 176 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: I was doing every day. 177 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: That what my friends did, and it kind of rub 178 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 4: off on me. 179 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 3: And so you know, I presented that in my music, 180 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: presented that to the world, where I got a lot 181 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: of backlash at that time because that didn't become popular 182 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: till maybe ten years later or seven eight years later. 183 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: It ended up getting popular later. So when I initially 184 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: did it, it was like, you know, it's like, oh, 185 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: you're doing this. You think you this, you think you that. 186 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: So the Knock You Out record was about showing people 187 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: that just because I made this celebratory album Panther, doesn't 188 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: mean that I can't do other things. 189 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: This battle yeah, well well no with the Spirit yeah 190 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: that too. 191 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: We could do that too. But you know, that's a 192 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: lot of stitches. But you know, that's a lot of 193 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: stitches in the back of the ad. But but it 194 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: definitely was just about like just showing people what I'm 195 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: capable of. It's just like with the new record that 196 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: I worked on, you know, it's yeah, the album about 197 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: the whole the whole record, like not just the song, 198 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: but that whole record is it's. 199 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: You know, I just want to show people what's possible. 200 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: I tried to cut a Q Tip about that too, 201 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: right before you got here. I was like, all right, 202 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: I was coming up here. I need some you know. 203 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to get some details. He was so 204 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: tight lipped. He was like, it's done, Yo. 205 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: It's done. 206 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: So he would tell me. 207 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: Yo, the record is done, and it's I think it's 208 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: I think he did an amazing job. I think he's 209 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: a brilliant dude. And I think I think people are 210 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: gonna be you know, they're gonna enjoy it when they 211 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: hear it. I believe they will. 212 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: How did that conversation even happen with you and Q Tip? 213 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: To decide all right, let's do this album together. I 214 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: want you to executive produce. 215 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: All right. So the real story is that I had 216 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: I started off, I did about thirty or forty songs 217 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: with Doctor Dre, and in doing those songs, I felt 218 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: like the music was amazing. What Dre was bringing to 219 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: the table was super dope. But I felt like the writing, 220 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: what I was bringing to these songs, it didn't feel 221 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: strong enough to me. It didn't feel like. I didn't 222 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: feel like I was expressing I was getting out of 223 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: me what I was feeling in my mind. You know, 224 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 3: I just wasn't the thoughts. I wasn't. It wasn't. I 225 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 3: didn't feel like it was written properly. Okay, So I 226 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: took a pause. Me and Dre just kind of paused 227 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: for a minute, and I ended up having a dream, 228 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then this dream, Fife 229 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: Dolphin from a trial called Quest came to me. You 230 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I'm funny with all that. I 231 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: follow all these types of things. So when when when 232 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 3: he came to me in a dream, He's like, Yo, 233 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: that that album you're gonna do with Dre is gonna 234 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: be dope, and I'm looking at him, but he's like 235 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 3: smirking a little bit, like he had a funny look 236 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: on his face, and I'm like, well, why are you 237 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: looking like that? And then so he just had that 238 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: chest you cat grin. So finally, you know, I fell 239 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: asleep whatever, woke up, and then over the course of 240 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: a day or two, I just felt like, you know, 241 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: Q Tip was on my spirit, like yo, So I 242 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: just called him. He picked up on the first arm 243 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: ring like Yo, what up, big bro? What up? I'm like, Yo, 244 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do an album, man, Like, well, what you 245 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 3: want to do? I said, I just want some pickle juice, 246 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: hot sauce, you know what I'm saying. I just wanted 247 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: like the most flavorful, most you know. And you know, 248 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: we went and did the recon and then the rest 249 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: is history. And so the music I have to speak 250 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: for itself. 251 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 2: So you really live, breathe, sleep and dream hip hop. 252 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: There's no question about that. I mean, there's no question 253 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: about that. I mean I've been a fan since I 254 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: was eight or nine, grew up in it. At sixteen, 255 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 3: I was turned professional, like. 256 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Like going on road like that at such a young age, 257 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: because it's not like today where you could see, uh 258 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: and have access to know like certain information you're learning 259 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: as you go along. Hip hop was also really young, 260 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: but you were a huge megastar at a young age 261 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: going on the road. 262 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: How was that? 263 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: I mean it was it was amazing. It was amazing. 264 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: It was like, you know, instead of the prom, I 265 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 3: went on tour. It's a huge difference, you know what 266 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I've never been to a prom. 267 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: What what did you like? 268 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: Did you? Okay? So who was your road manager at 269 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: the time? 270 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 3: Initially it was just my man cut creator, will go 271 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: get the money, like it was no road manager. 272 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: That all that came later and you always got your 273 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: money most of the time. 274 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we most of the time we got it. You know. 275 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: Sometimes we have some issues every now and then we have, 276 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: but most of the time we did alright. 277 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: And then as things got more organized, what was that experience? 278 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 3: Like, it just got more Uh, it just got bigger 279 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: and it got crazier and it was just more money 280 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: and more fun. And you know, then it became you know, 281 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 3: the decisions become like more crucial and more important, you know, 282 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: because but you also got to mature with that. See, 283 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: there's two ways to play it right. You could play 284 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: the finite game or you can play the Infinite Game. 285 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: If you play the Finite Game, then you're only about 286 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 3: winning today and it's gonna be what it's gonna be. 287 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: If you play the Infinite Game, then you're thinking about 288 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: how it's gonna impact the world, and how it's gonna 289 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 3: impact your life long term, and how you're what you're 290 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: what you're doing, and what it's gonna mean a thousand 291 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: years from there. So it's up to you, you know 292 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. For me at that time, most of 293 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 3: the time, I was kind of just going with my intuition. 294 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: So luckily that just that's the Infinite Game by default. 295 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: I ain't know no better. But when you go with 296 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: your intuition, even though you might break some you know, 297 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: step on some toes, ultimately you end up in the 298 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: right place. Because I mean, I mean, the fact that 299 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: we're sitting here talking says I did something right, you 300 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So it's like, you know, you. 301 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: Know, that's you know, and even being in all these 302 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: different genres, it's like timing wise, the fact that n 303 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: C I right, you just tape the last episode, Yeah, 304 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: of that, but now you're embarking on this. It's kind 305 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: of like everything lined up properly though, so you could 306 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: focus more on one thing. 307 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. I mean, I'm very thankful about the timing. 308 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: It's just like, you know, it's an amazing feeling, you 309 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 310 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: What made you decide now, like back to every because 311 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: that's a long time to take off from doing arena 312 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: tours thirty years? Yeah, I mean, and you could have 313 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: been doing this, So what made you not do it? 314 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: I know you did other shows and you did, but 315 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: what made you say? Because you could have been doing 316 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: this for quite some time just busy. 317 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 3: One thing I learned early on is don't limit yourself, 318 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So you know, try different things, 319 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: you know, you know, when you like, I had ten 320 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: platinum albums in a row, I didn't, you know, you know, 321 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: it was like I wanted to try something else, you 322 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So I'm being honest, right, So 323 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: I said I'm gonna try something else. So then I 324 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: went and I said, Okay, try TV and we get it. 325 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 3: We do a fourteen year run. I think it was 326 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: gonna last two years. I didn't know it's gonna last 327 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: fourteen years. But I'm not gonna quit and leave these 328 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: people hanging because I want to, you know, because I 329 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: want to do my music career. I had to like 330 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: just commit to that and give that love because I 331 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: said I was gonna do it. If I say I'm 332 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: gonna do something, I do it. So I committed. Once 333 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: I was done with that, I did the fourteen years. 334 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: Now let's get to it and then let's see what's happening, 335 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 336 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: So it is Roctor Bell's your favorite song? I have 337 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: to ask you that because obviously you have the whole 338 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: Rock to Bells. 339 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: No, it's not my franchise. 340 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: So I'm like, this gotta be like. I mean, the 341 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: way it starts, I think is iconic. It is right, 342 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: the way that it just comes in. 343 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: But I'm like, is this is No, it's not my 344 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: favorite song, but that's about is Look. The real thing 345 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: about that is a long time ago those guys were 346 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: running around with the Rock the Bells tour and. 347 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: I've been to some of them. 348 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, which is fine, which is fine, And 349 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 3: I was okay with it a little bit for a minute, 350 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: and then one day they called me up and try 351 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: to offer me, so, you know, feated like I was 352 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: staring at the phone looking at it. I said, so 353 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: you're running around with my IP and then you called 354 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: me with that let me get that back. They gotta 355 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 3: run that yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta run that back. 356 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: So I went, I just took it back. And then 357 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: once I you know, I took it because I thought 358 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 3: it was what it was doing was good for hip hop. 359 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: So that's why I didn't have a problem with it, 360 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: because I like things to be great for hip hop culture. 361 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 3: That's how I am. So they could have used it. 362 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: But when when it started getting ran down and then 363 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: they came to me with these offers and I didn't like. 364 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, let me get it back. 365 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: So I took it and then I you know, turned 366 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: it into what it is now. So now I was 367 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: content as Commerce Experiences is lifting up all of these 368 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: you know, these different artists. There's been this huge resurgence 369 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: and timeless artists and you know, Rock the Bells, the 370 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: team at Rock the Bells is hugely responsible largely for 371 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: a lot of this big resurgence that we're feeling, and 372 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: it's fifty years of hip hop, like you know before 373 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: you know, the team at Rock the Bells were doing 374 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: what they were doing and everybody was working hard. It 375 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 3: was like people didn't even want to stand next to 376 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: certain people. It's like, oh, I'm embarrassed, or I gotta 377 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: pretend I'm fourteen forever. Oh no, I don't have to 378 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: do that, you know what I'm saying. Because if Bono 379 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: can be who he is, and Tom Cruise can be 380 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: who he is, and you know, and Mick Jagger can 381 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: be who he is, that loo Cooj can be who 382 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: he is, I don't have to like stand next to 383 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: anybody else to appear to be something. 384 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Else, like, yeah, is growing up. It's okay, Yeah, it's fine. 385 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: I'm good with that. So that's how I kind of 386 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: approached it, you know what I'm saying. So now I 387 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 3: look at it and I look at the way the 388 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: artists are being treated. I look at the success, I 389 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 3: look at the resurgence. I look at all the shows 390 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 3: they're doing. That makes me feel amazing. And I love 391 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: the fact that it's cross generational. So when we do 392 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: the Grammy, it's it's like, you know what, get Little Baby, 393 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 3: get glow Riller. You know what I'm saying, get a 394 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: little uzy, let's you know. 395 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for all the generations. That's the beauty of it. 396 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: Right. So, like I want to see guys like five 397 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: year succeed and I want to see these different artists. 398 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Do well, you know, under saying when they sample some 399 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: of the because it makes people really go back and 400 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: be like, oh, this is where this came from. 401 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: And I think that's amazing when people do that too. 402 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's samples of samples of samples. 403 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: It's crazy because it doesn't bother you when people sample 404 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: your music as long. 405 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: As I like the song. As long as I like 406 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 3: the song. If I don't like the song, I'm not 407 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna click here. Okay, it depends because if you know, 408 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: some people, I don't like hating on guys I don't like. You, 409 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: don't like interrupting people's creativity by blocking clearances. I don't 410 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: really do that a lot. I have to really not 411 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 3: like the rec song to do that. But other than that, 412 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 3: I try to. I try to be good about that 413 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: because I want to treat people the way I want 414 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 3: to be treated, right, you know, so when gods do 415 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: records and they send them to me, most most of 416 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: the time I clean sometimes. 417 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: And you also speaking of fifty years of hip hop, 418 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: which is amazing, it's fifty years old. 419 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: But you also have a book coming out. 420 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, So I have a book. It's it's 421 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: The Streets Win. It's called The ll COOLJ Presents the 422 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: Streets Win Fifty Years of hip Hop Greatness. And what 423 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: I have is I have essays from all of the 424 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: different people in hip hop over the years. So everybody 425 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: from Dre to to a Mary J. Blige, from a 426 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: Snoop Dog to an Eminem to a you know, like 427 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: all of these different different Q tip you know, just 428 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: different acts, you know, funk flex, you know what I'm saying. 429 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: Different people are all involved in this in this in 430 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: this book because and it's all essays, so it's straight 431 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: from the horse's mouth. Why is that important Because one 432 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: hundred two hundred, three hundred four hundred, one thousand years 433 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: from now, those stories in that narrative is correct. So 434 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: you can't create a fake Mount Rushmore based on chart 435 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: who topped the chart last week, you know, because it's 436 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, the music business and hip 437 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: hop is kind of like I got you last. So 438 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, whoever had the hottest record for the 439 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: last two years. They the man like, No, it doesn't 440 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: quite work like that. That's not how it works, you know. 441 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 3: It's it's about who had impact on the game and 442 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 3: who did different things in different ways with different people, 443 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: because there's no rule that says that one person has 444 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: to be the one. It's about who people like and 445 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: who who makes people. You know, this guy might have 446 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: a song that wasn't even a single, it was an 447 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: album cut, but this I was sitting in a cell 448 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: or this girl was going through something with a mom 449 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: and that song and everything to them. That's what art 450 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: is about, right. So this book is essays all from 451 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: these different artists speaking directly to the people nas you know, 452 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: different people talking about you know, hip hop and talking 453 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 3: about hip hop culture, how they started, what they love, 454 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 3: what they don't like. So I got the real stories 455 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: in this book. So every family, if you're a hip 456 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: hop fan, every family should own that book because it's 457 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 3: a piece of history and people have to remember that. 458 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: You know, this is fifty years of hip hop and 459 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: the things I'm doing. This is history. It's not normal, 460 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: so you shouldn't you shouldn't take it lightly because twenty thirty, 461 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 3: forty years from now, You're gonna remember these moments, so 462 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 3: you got to you gotta remember that. 463 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: And it coincides great with this tour that you have. 464 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the force the tour. The tour is I think 465 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 3: really special. I think what we did on the Grammys 466 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 3: inspired me to want to go on the road again. 467 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 3: And you know, so I have the roots with me, 468 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: DJ Jazz, Jeff and DJZ Trip, you know, and you know, 469 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 3: like legendary crazy and then we have all these unbelievable 470 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 3: curated experiences based on the market. 471 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: Man. 472 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: I love the fact that you saw Pepper. When I 473 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: was coming up, that was my favorite group. 474 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some Pepper's amazing. 475 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: And when I interviewed them, I was really fanning out 476 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: because I was sitting back like I can't believe I'm 477 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: talking to something. Pepper you could have never told me 478 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: as a kid, but I think as a woman seeing 479 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: them doing what they did and seeing like a Roxanne 480 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: Chante and an MC light and mony love I love. 481 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: And I know she has a show now on Rock 482 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the Belt. She has a new show, and I think 483 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: she's so talented at what she does, but sometimes she 484 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: doesn't realize how iconic. She is like, when you've done something, 485 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't think people understand the impact, like you said earlier, 486 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: that you have on people. 487 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: Well, self awareness is a part of life, right, Like 488 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: being self aware and understanding where you are. Like so funny, 489 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: you know, when you're in a hotel, if you look 490 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: behind the door, there's a little map that says you 491 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: are here at least as what you know, and you 492 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: look and that tells you where you're at relation to 493 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: the exit. You have to be self aware. You have 494 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: to be aware where you're at in life and understand that. However, 495 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: you have to be able to do it with humility 496 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 3: and not get caught up and not get so arrogant 497 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: that you you up like making a huge misstep, you 498 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, and playing yourself right, you know 499 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. 500 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's good that we also have a 501 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: chance to hear some of these stories now because I 502 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: think as hip hop is growing up and some of 503 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the artists that we might have grew up listening to 504 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: who are still out here working now, they're going and 505 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: telling their stories. But some of them you're like, oh damn, 506 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that was because when you're telling 507 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: your stories. Sometimes you're telling other people's stories too well, 508 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: and that's hard. That's a hard balance. 509 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: It ain't really a hard balance at all. Don't put 510 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: no names in it, Okay, don't tell the whole story. 511 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 3: Just ain't no names in the joint? 512 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: Does it bother you if people have some ll stories 513 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 2: and they put you in. 514 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: It is what it is. It's gonna be. 515 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: It's fine. 516 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 4: It is what it is. 517 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 3: It ain't nothing fine, but it is what it is. 518 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't tell them like everybody else. Don't tell on 519 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: me either, you know what I mean. I ain't volunteering 520 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: to get snitched on. But nah, I mean the stories 521 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: out what the stories are. I mean, we all live life, 522 00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, We all live. 523 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: How much do you think it helps you to get 524 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: married at a young age too, because that probably have 525 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: a lot of probably what I read your book, so 526 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: I know. But I'm saying, but as far as being 527 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: more grounded and like, you know, because I feel like 528 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: you could have been way wilder for real a little while, but. 529 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: You could have been waved. 530 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: He was kind of bad in your book. 531 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm just saying it does. 532 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: I think family does sometimes make you feel a little 533 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: bit more responsible. 534 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 3: Definitely. Look look, look, you know, listen, I mean, everybody 535 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: got their own way of doing things. But I you 536 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: know my life, in my life, I was always about quality, 537 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 3: not quantity. 538 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I mean? So you know, to 539 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: each his own you legs shaking, I don't know. 540 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm nervous. I'm extremely nervous. You make me very 541 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: nervous with these questions. I'm shaking in my boots over here. 542 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: What I was getting to was, you do have four children, right, 543 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: and so one of your your daughter is issue an artist. 544 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 3: Now, she's a songwriter, just graduated from the College of 545 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: Berkeley College of Music. 546 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: How do you feel about her being in their music business? 547 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 4: Is that? 548 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 3: I think it's amazing. It's amazing. It's what she wants. 549 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You talk about family, keeping 550 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: you grounded. I mean, the real question, the real answer, 551 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: the honest answer, is that you got to take care 552 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 3: of your family. And no, nobody's perfect. We all know that. 553 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: But that's what guys say you it's the truth. 554 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: I mean, you know I can say no, no, no, 555 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: you're not you're not. But I'm playing with you. Help 556 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 3: But you gotta, you know, like you gotta take care 557 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: of your family and make sure that everybody's right and 558 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: everybody's straight. And that's what I've always done. So with 559 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: the kids, I'm just happy she her dream came true. 560 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like I want to 561 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: make their their dreams of reality. So what I try 562 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: to do with my family and my kids and all 563 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: of them, even with Simon, is just be a facilitator 564 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 3: of dreams. She wanted to do her jewelry line. 565 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: I love her jewelry line. I'm not gonna lie. It's 566 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: her Mary Jay Blig. They rocking anytime I wear their stuff. 567 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: People come up to me every time I wear some 568 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: own stuff and they'll be like, where'd you get those 569 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: errands from? It's really I know you don't care about that, 570 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: but it's great quality. They Yeah, no, it is because 571 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: they sometimes you can have earrings and they'll like break 572 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: when you do the class when all hers last forever? 573 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, some long. You know. She's really good about that. 574 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: She loved the. 575 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: Earrings and they'll be selling out everywhere she does. 576 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: Well, Yeah, she's doing her thing. Listen. I'm I'm happy 577 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 3: for you know how married they're working hard on that 578 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: and really putting a lot of work into that jewelry, 579 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: and it's going well for them. 580 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 2: So I'll be seeing it on Power Book two all 581 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: the time. 582 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 583 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's rock having the errors on, don't she rocking? 584 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: Rocking? So all the kids, all the kids happy. My 585 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: daughter Samaria, she has a Denom line which does well. 586 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: You know my son he works at Rock the. 587 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Bells SIS And you kind of instilled both both of 588 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: you guys, instilled that in your kids, like that creativity. 589 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just want them to look. My thing 590 00:23:54,480 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: is make a contribution to the world. Make a contribution 591 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 3: to the world, Make an impact on the world. You know. 592 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: You know when I was saying something to somebody, I 593 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: just got some news about somebody who had passed away 594 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: that was well known, and we were me and my 595 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 3: man were talking about how how great of a person 596 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: he was and how much of a man he was. 597 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: And what I said to my man is while we 598 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: were in the mid conversation, I said, you see, we 599 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 3: didn't talk about. 600 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: His bank account. 601 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: So what does that tell you? That tells you that 602 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: you got to make an impact on the world with 603 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 3: the things that you do, Like the money, stuff that 604 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 3: can cloud your vision. It's nothing wrong with it, Don't 605 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: get me wrong. 606 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: I've always been about getting money, no question. 607 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: I'm very entrepreneurial, always been about getting I promise you. However, 608 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: I just want to just caution people. Remember that's not 609 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: what you talk about. Nobody talks about Ali's bank account. 610 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 3: They don't talk about Miles Davis's bank account like it. 611 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: When you're alive, it's fun, it's nice to shop, it's 612 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: fun to get it all I know, but nobody talks 613 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: about that when you're going. So you have to make 614 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: an impact, and the impact you make has to be 615 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: greater than just a dollar. 616 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: I said that. 617 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: When Harry Belafonte passed, and also Michael K. Williams when 618 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: he died and everybody was talking about how great of 619 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: a person he was. It wasn't even famous people, it was, 620 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, just people who knew him. Came across him 621 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: and they were like, he was amazing when I met him. 622 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: So when you when you're on this radio and when 623 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 3: you're building your show, and when you as you're showing 624 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: the younger girls than yourself, even younger, you know what's possible. 625 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 3: That's what this is about, not only about your contract 626 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: that and you know, I got my solo deal after 627 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: I came off the Big Show and I've worked it 628 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: and all. It's not just about that. It's about what 629 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 3: these little girls see when they look at the show, 630 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: listen to the show, watch the podcast, and all of that. 631 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: It's about all of that. 632 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: You feel me, Yeah, no, I definitely totally agree with you. 633 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: And then I think for you, just what you're trying 634 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: to do is cement the legacy of hip hop and 635 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: document these fifty years. I feel like the book is 636 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: doing that, the tour is doing that. Now you're back 637 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: on death Jam. 638 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm doing this album, this album. 639 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: Because that seen the teena is in the room. 640 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, the death Jam. 641 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: See the album is fun because because you know, hip hop, 642 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: fifty is very young in real years. When you look 643 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 3: at a genre and you look at the world, you know, 644 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: fifty sounds like a lot of time when you're fifteen, 645 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 3: but that's different from in the real scheme of things. 646 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 3: It's very young in terms as a genre and as 647 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: an art form. It's fifty years. It's only fifty years, right, 648 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: So it's like what we haven't seen is an artist 649 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: who can be there from the beginning or early on, 650 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 3: do something at another point in time and have a 651 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 3: real significant impact creatively. And I want to show people 652 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: what's possible creatively. That's why when I talk about James 653 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: Cameron doing Avatar, when I talk about Spielberg doing films, 654 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 3: and Tom Cruise, the reason why I bring these guys 655 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 3: up is because they're able to focus on to present 656 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: their craft at a high level over multiple decades and years. 657 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: And I want to show people, with this force record 658 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: that I did with Q Tip, what's possible creatively, so 659 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 3: that artists can stop pretending that they want to retire, 660 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 3: when in reality they're just afraid that they don't know 661 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 3: because they don't know what to do next, So they 662 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: get afraid and I think I might retire. No, you 663 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: want to feel loved and you want to feel you 664 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: want to feel like people want you to continue because 665 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: you don't know what to do because you're scared now 666 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: because you've reached this point and you don't know if 667 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 3: you've seen a thing, something change over there and the 668 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 3: generational change and it's made you a little nervous and 669 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: you're like not sure what to do. What you have 670 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: to do is be yourself. 671 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: You know, it's not easy too. 672 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Everybody have an access to have something to say, you know, 673 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: because think about when you first came out. You have 674 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: to wait for an article to come out, you have 675 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: to do an interview, and then you know, a couple 676 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: months later it comes out. 677 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 2: You get to read the reviews. 678 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 1: You don't know what people are saying until you know 679 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: something's already done. And usually the people that are saying 680 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: those things are journalists or people who are really critics. 681 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 3: And me, So go ahead, you was gonna say, but. 682 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: There's a good and a bad side to that, right, 683 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: because you can get responses right the way. They could 684 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: be negative or positive. But sometimes it's a lot to 685 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: take in. 686 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I'll I'll just say this to you. 687 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: See those responses only way heavy on you when you 688 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: don't really really love what you did. When you did something, 689 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 3: you were guessing and you like you have a lot 690 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: of artists, right, they make songs or they make music, 691 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 3: and they hope they think, I think people will like this. 692 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: This is the wave you think they're like, I think 693 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: they'll like this. That's how they create. They create in 694 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: the space of I think they'll like this. So what 695 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: happens is is when people don't like it, they're terribly 696 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: disappointed because they were they were wrong. When you create 697 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: from the heart, there is no wrong. It doesn't matter 698 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: to me if you tell me you don't like it. 699 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: Because me and Q tip will love it because I 700 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 4: love it. 701 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 3: So it doesn't really matter to me whether you like 702 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 3: it or not, because it's true. Like what now, let's 703 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: go back, let's rewind again. You mentioned I need love. 704 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 3: I had to do some artists Christmas music. O b 705 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: oll you can't do it, yo, talk, Come on, man, 706 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 3: you can't do this. You gotta keep them bad. You 707 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: gotta do it. This is what I'm doing. So it 708 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: didn't matter to me. So that's where you have. That's why. 709 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: That's the difference between being an artist for real and 710 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: being a creator of music just for mass consumption. 711 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: Right. 712 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: And it was great for you. You were able to 713 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: jump into all different types of I guess moods or 714 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: not necessarily genres. But you could do a song like 715 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: with boys to men, yeah, versatile, right, And then you 716 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: can do a song like I'm that type of guy 717 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: and just all over the place, get your heads frung, right, 718 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: and then you introduce us to Foxy Brown. 719 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah and DMX and yeah, let's not forget that. 720 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know what the thing is, It's like, 721 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: I remember when that first shot to me, when that 722 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: came out, I just got to say this. People thought 723 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: it at first, they were they thought because she was 724 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: so hard, they thought it was. 725 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: Like a young boy. 726 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, when that first came out, and we were excited 727 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: when we realized, no, that's a woman. 728 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 3: That's Foxy. Yeah, yeah, fox is amazing. Shout out to Foxy. 729 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: I hope she does some music and comes out, you know, 730 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: during this whole celebratory time. 731 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: But you're trying to get her to come out. 732 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: I think she should. 733 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she should. You gotta stop at the Barclays. 734 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: I think that would be little man. I don't see 735 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: why she wouldn't comeing out. I mean, yo, the Barclays. 736 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna be at the Barclays June twenty seventh. We're 737 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna be a Prudential Center on June twenty eighth. 738 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: I love that. 739 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: You know the dates off the top of your head. 740 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right, so go ahead. 741 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: Yeah that's what So. No, I think what you're saying 742 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 3: is right. You know, you just got to love what 743 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 3: you do though, you gotta really love it, man, And 744 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: then people when people know that you're not pretending, it's different. 745 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: It's different when you're not pretending, right, when it's not 746 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 3: an act, like when you're really writing from the soul 747 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: and you're really making stuff that's creative. Yeah, you pay 748 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: attention to sonics like me and Tip, Like my thing was, 749 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to do anything that sounds like what 750 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 3: I did before. And I don't want to do anything 751 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: that sounds like what's going on now. That's the rules 752 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 3: now everything else. Let's just have some fun with it. 753 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: All right, you know what I mean? 754 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: So are you gonna have are their guest appearances? I 755 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: know that it's done. 756 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 4: There's some guest appearances on that. 757 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: Can you give us anything sounding? 758 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's floating out there, it's floating out there. 759 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: It's floating around out there. I don't want to say 760 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: it because Q Tip gets mad at oh big we 761 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,479 Speaker 3: gotta we might be able to get past you saying that. 762 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 4: Baby, you know he's yeah, you know what I mean. 763 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, we got some joints. I got I gotta look, 764 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 3: I got some real It's it's gonna be heavy. 765 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: Are you documenting this tour. 766 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'll be filming everything and it's all a movie. 767 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: It's all history. 768 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think we gotta make it to the Barclades. 769 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: You definitely gotta come down, she said, yes, gotta. Honestly, 770 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: this is like my type of tour. I'm really excited 771 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: to come. 772 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 3: You gotta come down and just tell. 773 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Us some of the other people that are on the 774 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: road with you. Guys, I know Hise does. 775 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got I got Common in Chicago. I got 776 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah Bone Thus, I got iced Tea doing some dates. 777 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: I got Queen Latifa. Yeah, I got red Man and 778 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: method Man. I got uh, so many different artists. Like 779 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be amazing. You see, I'm telling you people, listen, 780 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: it's the key to everything I'm doing is it's not 781 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 3: about ll It's about the culture. You know. I have 782 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 3: a line on one of the songs I said back 783 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 3: to elevate the culture. That's my only motive that Like, 784 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: that's true. You know what I'm saying, That's really true. 785 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: So when you come to these shows, you know, I 786 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: got empty light on some shows. You know what I'm saying, Like, 787 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be a nice. It's gonna be 788 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 3: a vibe. You know what I'm saying, It's gonna be 789 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: I got Jada kiss on some shows. 790 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: Who do you fan out over? Ever? Like when was 791 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 2: the last time you was like excited? Like I can't believe. 792 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: I I can't believe. 793 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 2: I Like, I can't believe I just met this person. 794 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: Like do you ever fan out? 795 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: Because you've met everybody at this point, But is there 796 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: anybody that you've gotten excited over? 797 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: I mean I remember, like maybe quite a few years ago, 798 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: I met Meryl Streep and I was like, oh, I'm 799 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: excited to meet Meryl Street. That's exciting. 800 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, Meryl Street, this is exciting. I felt I felt 801 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 4: a little you know what I mean. I felt excited. 802 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was excited. But a lot of my heroes, 803 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of my heroes are my friends. Yeah, 804 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So you know, like I'm 805 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 3: friends with Denzel you know what I'm saying. But I 806 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: still love his work. But he's my man, you know 807 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that's a little different, you know 808 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: what I mean. But like when I look at like, 809 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: you know, I love to just see people succeed and win. 810 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm absolutely the dude that like, I give it up 811 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: at the concerts. I give it up when people on 812 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 3: TV I'm clapping, I'm dancing, I'm not like. I don't. 813 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't do the too good to be, 814 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 3: not too cool, not too cool for school and all that. 815 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 816 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 2: You ever went to Ever Yeah, oh man. 817 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 3: My first concert. You had the crash crew sequence flashing them, 818 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, and there was a 819 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: shootout on tell of that. I had to run up 820 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 3: under the stage. I loved it. 821 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 4: I loved it. When they started, oh yeah, I jumped 822 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: on it. I got over the barricade one on the stage. 823 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 3: I was like looking at the stage like this, I'm 824 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 3: touching the bottom of the stage looking up. People are 825 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 3: screaming and I'm just looking up at the bottom of 826 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: the stage like, damn gonna be on the stage. 827 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 4: This is literally what I'm doing. 828 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 2: This felt like the beginning of the movie. 829 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 3: It was crazy. It was crazy. It was the craziest moment. 830 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: I feel like there's an L cool J movie coming. 831 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 4: I don't know, it could be. 832 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: I could, you know, I have I've had people, you know, 833 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 3: Michael Bivens always bugs me to yo, Yo, that's my 834 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 3: man too. He like, Yo, you gotta do a movie, yo, bro, 835 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 3: you gotta do it. You know, I definitely think about it, 836 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I've definitely been thinking about 837 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: doing one or series around my life. I think people would. 838 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: But the first thing I want to do is get 839 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: this record out there because I want to show people 840 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: what's possible. 841 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: Okay, so when is it coming out? Let's put a 842 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 2: date on it. 843 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to put a date on I don't, okay, 844 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: but it's coming this year, all right. It's coming this 845 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: year though. 846 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: All right, so some sometime this year. 847 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 3: Sometimes, no questions, Yeah, no running back, yeah, absolutely, run 848 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: that back. 849 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 2: All right? Well llo cool J. Thank you so much. 850 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: This is our first time sitting down having a conversation. 851 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: I hope we do it again. 852 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 3: We will do it. 853 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 2: I know you're super busy running around, but we'll be there. 854 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: At the Barclays productive all right, yeah, productive, Thank you. 855 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 3: Appreciate you, no doubt