1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, Who are we dealing with here? We're gonna 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: talk about World War three, We're gonna debate. Liz Wheeler 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: and I were going to debate national divorce. Should we 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: have one? Shouldn't we? What's going on in East Palestine? Now? 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: All that's coming up, and I'm right, Russia is stopping 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: its participation in the treaty about strategic offensive weapons. It 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: does not, we do not we drawn from the treaty, 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: but we are putting it on hold. Okay, that's Vladimir 9 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: Putin today withdrawing from something called the Start Treaty, with 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: an Obama era treaty between US and Russia about nuclear weapons. 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: It's all pertains to nuclear weapons. So that's what Russia's 12 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: leader is saying. Our leader such as it is out 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: there saying this. And let there be no doubt the 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: commitment to the United States, to our NATO alliance an 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Article five is rock solid, and every member of NATO 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: knows it, and Russia knows it as well. An attack 17 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: against one is attack against all. It's a sacred oath, 18 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: sacred oath to defend every inch of NATO territory. Ukraine 19 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: isn't pardon NATO. They're not pardon NATO. But you know what, 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: let's settle that aside for a moment, because we'll get 21 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: to China and everything else here in a moment. There 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: is a question out there that's been on my mind. 23 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: It's just hanging on my mind. I can't get it 24 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: off my mind. I actually woke up this morning thinking 25 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: about this question as it pertains to Russia, Ukraine and 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: US in the world. One big question and a question 27 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: that somebody needs to answer. In fact, the answer to 28 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: this question really should determine everything from here on out. 29 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: And the question is simply this, Vladimir Putin. I'm not 30 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 1: a fan, I don't know him, don't like him, but 31 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin. Okay, the world has stacked up against Vladimir 32 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: Putin for his actions in Ukraine. I get all that. 33 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: I get. Putin invaded Ukraine. The world is stacked up 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: against him. I understand it, You understand it. We all 35 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: get it all. We all get to the players are here. 36 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: The world wants him out, and you're fond well, she 37 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: probably not fond of but you hear a lot of this. 38 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Get him out must be defeated at any cost. Nothing 39 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: for Putin. He must go back to Russia in disgrace, 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: and all these things that sound good, sounds tough. American 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: politicians and political pundits love to get up and say 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. We won't give an inch as 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: if he's out there on the front lines putting rounds 44 00:02:53,560 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: down range. But that beyond the question is Vladimir Putin? 45 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Is there any scenario, any scenario at all, that will 46 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: cause Vladimir Putin to pack up his toys and go home, 47 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 1: to accept a total loss. He gets nothing, no territory, 48 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: no concessions, know nothing all. He gets his disgrace in 49 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: a loss. Is there a way that happens? That is 50 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the only question that matters. Because if the answer to 51 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: that question is yes, okay, then let's figure out how 52 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: do we make him pack up his toys and go home. However, 53 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: if the answer to that question is no, well we 54 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: need to change some tactics here, and we need to 55 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: adjust some things here. Did you happen to hear the 56 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: latest from the NATO chief. We are also increasingly concerned 57 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: about China maybe planning to provide letal support for a 58 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: shells award. Putin must not win, okay, China might start 59 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: working with Russia to provide lethal aid. I know nobody 60 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: talks about this, certainly nobody right now talking about ukrained 61 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: off US, but Russia in China and Iran and Venezuela 62 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: have done joint military exercises recently. I Look, the world 63 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: is imperfect. The world is ugly. I don't like seeing 64 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: bombed out apartment buildings. People losing everything in Ukraine is horrible. Look, 65 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: it's all awful. I understand that. I get it. But 66 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: we're not dealing with your field feels or my field feels. 67 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: Let's set emotions to sign here for a moment. If 68 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: Putin won't accept the total loss yet, we are going 69 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: to send tanks and missiles and everything else with the 70 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: intention of giving him a total loss. And China is 71 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: finding itself aligned with Putin. That's two major nuclear powers 72 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: on the planet who've decided to dig in their heels 73 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: and say no, Well, I think it's time for you 74 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: and I to acknowledge something that we don't want to acknowledge. 75 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: And this is just the reality of it. You've lived 76 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: your entire life feeling safe from attacks from foreign powers. 77 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: So have I. It's part of the reason things like 78 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor or nine to eleven feel so real to 79 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: us to this day. You get a visceral reaction when 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: you bring up nine to eleven to this day. I 81 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: do too. Why we were attacked here. Somebody came here 82 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: and attacked us in our home. And we, as Americans 83 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: are used to having this wonderful country and wonderful oceans 84 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: two of them Atlantic and Pacific, nice little buffer there, 85 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: wonderful navy, wonderful air force, were used to feeling safe 86 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: from foreign adversaries. But you and I have got to 87 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: acknowledge something, and we've got to acknowledge it right now. 88 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: We're not safe from China and Russia here. Oh, I'm 89 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: not saying they're superior to us. I'm not saying that 90 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: in any way. I'm not even saying they're superior militarily. 91 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: We are not dealing with some goat hurters in Afghanistan. Here, 92 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: we are dealing with powers who can touch you, you, 93 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: specifically me, specifically my power gone, my train derail. We 94 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: are dealing with foreign powers who have the ability to 95 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: strike us here at home and hurt us badly. So again, 96 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I want to circle back to my question for the 97 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: third time. I don't know how to take the measure 98 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: of the man. I know that that's the most important 99 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: thing in the world. What is the measure of Vladimir Putin? 100 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: Is there any scenario where he will go home and 101 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: accept a total loss? And again, if the answer to 102 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: that question is no, then we have got to change 103 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: something quickly before we start getting touched here at home. 104 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh and did I mention while China and Russia are 105 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: forming a military coalition against US and against the President 106 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: of the United States of America can't even answer a 107 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: simple no to the question when he's asked if he 108 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: personally is compromised by one of those two big powers, 109 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: in compromised by a family sistance really served? Mister give 110 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: me a break man, can turn my offer and ask 111 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: the question we have more ploy people, Give me a 112 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: break man. That's not an answer, mister President, your son 113 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: has documented dirty ties to the Communist Party of China. 114 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: How owned are you because you have documented dirty ties 115 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: to your son and his business dealings? How owned are 116 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: you by one of the two nuclear powers we're currently 117 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: making angry on the world stage. That's a legitimate question 118 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: to ask. And how am I supposed to take it? 119 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: When reports come out that we haven't heard sirens, air 120 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: raids sirens in Ukraine for days and days and days, 121 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: and did you know this because they don't want to 122 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: start World War three either. Russia agreed to a ceasefire 123 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: while Joe Biden was on the ground, so already the 124 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: air raid sirens have not been going off. Russia has agreed, Hey, 125 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: we're not going to start lobbing artillery shells your way. 126 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: Don't want to accidentally kill the US president. But the 127 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: US President goes to visit Ukraine and instead we get 128 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: some theater performance organized clearly organized between the Biden administration 129 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and the Ukrainian government to act like he was in 130 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: danger from the air raids. I've been here for the 131 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: past five days. I have not heard any explosions. I 132 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: have not heard any air sirens. And tell about half 133 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: an hour ago, right when President Biden was in the 134 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: center of Keith Oops. I'm starting to feel a little 135 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: manipulated here are you? And the problem is this isn't 136 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: some standard domestic political game where they play these games 137 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: with us and propaganda and they lie and in the 138 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: end we're just a little less free and the money goes, 139 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, a little bit less far no, no, Now 140 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: we're dealing with big boy politics. Now we're dealing with 141 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: World War three. These little manipulation games by America's communists, 142 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: they have consequences beyond I think what you and I 143 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: want to sit down and talk about. Oh and do 144 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: keep in mind if that World War three kicks off, 145 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: this is the human being who's going to be commanding 146 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: America's armies. We built a coalition of nations from the 147 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: Atlantic to the Pacific, NATO to the ill the Atlantic, 148 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Japan and the Pacific, I mean across the world. All 149 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right. 150 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: Well the point has been made, including by me. The 151 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: President went to Ukraine. But it is Ohio that is 152 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: currently in serious, serious trouble. Mark Morano is going to 153 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: join us next and let's find out what are the 154 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: environmental concerns there, what are these poor people going through? 155 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: Before we do that, let's do keep in mind we 156 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: still have an entire generation of warriors between Iraq and 157 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Afghanistan we're trying to put back together again. I got 158 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: back from Iraq. I was in the initial Iraq invasion, 159 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: and when I got back from Iraq, I got out 160 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: of the marine Corps. Shortly after my enlistening was up, 161 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: and so I had to go to the VA for 162 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: various things, get things checked out and whatnot. But I 163 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: remember the first time I went to the VA when 164 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: I got back from Iraq. This was early remember this 165 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: is early two thousands. It would occur to me, Wow, 166 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: all these veterans that are here, they're all older, significantly 167 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: older than me. It was a bunch of Vietnam guys, 168 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Korea guys. If you World War two guys rolling around, 169 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: it's just an order crowd. When you walked in, I 170 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: was a young face. And then as I went to 171 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: the VA over and over and over again, the faces 172 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: started getting younger. Over the years, they started to look 173 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot more like me. We have an entire 174 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: generation of veterans who are busted up while they rev 175 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: up World War three. We need to help those veterans. 176 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: The VA is falling short. To put it mildly, Bouldercrest 177 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: is out there. They have something called Operations Struggle Veterans. 178 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: Hear me out, it's for you if you're struggling. These 179 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: veterans are having a hard time getting back into the world. 180 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: Bouldercrest is getting them back into the world and helping. 181 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: Let's help Bouldercrest do that. Huh. Go to Bouldercrest dot org. 182 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: Give what you can, volunteer, give money, whatever you can 183 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: do Bouldercrest dot org. Right, we'll be back as a father. 184 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: I trust the science. I trust the methodology that this 185 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: state is using. If the EPA said that my air 186 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: quality was safe, and the state said that the water 187 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: has been tested and the water quality is safe, then 188 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I would trust those readings. I am asking that they 189 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: trust the government, and that's hard. We know that there 190 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: is a lack of trust, which is why the state 191 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: and the federal government have pledged to be very transparent. 192 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Just trust the government. Why don't those people trust the government? 193 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: What's their problem? Joining me now? Mark Morano, climatedepot dot com, 194 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: author of the book The Great Reset, Mark, I don't 195 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: know why those people in East Palestine won't just trust 196 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: the government, you know. I don't know. When they say, 197 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, you'll you'll own nothing and you'll be happy, 198 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: why can't we just trust that? Although I must say 199 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Jesse and in this version it's you'll drink toxic chemic 200 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: and you'll be happy. Trust us. There's a million reasons 201 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: why no one should trust our government and actually you 202 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't trust government and corporations, big media. Everyone has proven untrustworthy, 203 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: and in this specific incidence with this Ohio train derailment, 204 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: they have been essentially lied to from day one, everything 205 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: attempted to be minimized, claiming they were doing EPA testing 206 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: when it was industry related funded tested. Talking about this 207 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: decision that the governor's all completely enthusiastically signed off on 208 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: to implode all of the chemicals and to the atmosphere, 209 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: which they then later say that they weren't given more options. 210 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it has been a disaster, and the last 211 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: thing anyone should do is trust the government, and the 212 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: last thing any government official should say is trust the government. 213 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: But of course that's the first thing they say when 214 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: they finally show up on site under pressure. One thing 215 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: I find extremely inspiring is that our second here a 216 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: transportation He's going to go out there and check things 217 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: out here. He was sure, when are you going to 218 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: go to East Palestine? Well, I am planning to go, 219 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: and our folks were on the ground from the first hours. 220 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I do want to stress that the NTSB needs to 221 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: be able to do its work independently. But when I go, 222 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: the focus is going to be on action. Look, I 223 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: was mayor of my hometown for eight years. We dealt 224 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of disasters, natural and human. Really, he 225 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: dealt with disasters Mark, you know, as the mayor of 226 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: South Ben. I don't know what kind of level we're 227 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: talking about here South Ben. But here's the thing. He's 228 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: acting as though they're on top of this. Here's the 229 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: big picture. The reason there's been no government response is 230 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: there's no climate change link to this, at least ostensibly 231 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: no climate changing. I'll get to that in a minute. 232 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: But just two weeks ago, Secretary Pete went on TV 233 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: and actually said, every transportation decision in the first century 234 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: is a climate decision, direct quote Jesse. So when that happens, 235 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: if they, if they, he probably got a call as 236 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: trained development toxic hazard chemicals vinyl chloride, you know, the 237 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: same thing they use in uh you know, and essentially 238 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: war weapons, uh weaponaries gas. And his answer was, is 239 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: there any climate angle? No? Oh, well I can't be 240 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: bothered because every decision is a climate decision. And that's 241 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: essentially what happened. Climate change has literally hijacked the environmental agenda. 242 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: The transportation and our infrastructure agenda. If it can't be 243 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: turned into a happy press release about ev buses or 244 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: some kind of transportation, you know, a futuristic train that's electric, 245 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: they're not interested. And that's where we are right now. 246 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: So when he could, when he says, you know, we 247 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: were on this, that's a lie. They weren't on it 248 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: because a these are poor white Trump voters, not you know, 249 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: equity decisions. And this is not happening in Beverly Hills 250 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: or Georgetown in Washington, or the Hampton's or somewhere where 251 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: they have a huge, wealthy constituency to push them. These 252 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: are people that didn't matter to this administration, and that's 253 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: why they have been left to flounder. God, that's so sad. 254 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: Mark Morano, thank you so much, moment. I appreciate you. 255 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesse, appreciate it. All right. We still have 256 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: so much, We still have so much. We want to 257 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: see debate. You're about to see one between Lizz Wheeler 258 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: and I in a second. Before we get to that, 259 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: there is no debate about your wallet, though my wallet 260 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: is superior to your wallet. And maybe you're saying, Jesse, 261 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: that's insulting to my wallet. Well, yes, that's exactly right. 262 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: I lived for years like you with an inferior wallet, 263 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: either some foldable thing in my back pocket it hurts 264 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: my butt when I sit down, or I went to 265 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: the smaller little sleeves that you put in your front pocket. 266 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Just a few credit cards, and of course that wears 267 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: out and soon your American Express cards falling on the ground. 268 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: But now I have grip six wallet. Now all my 269 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: cards are locked in this hard case wallet, hard case. 270 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: They're not following out, They're not wearing out. If I 271 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: want them out, it is squeeze and they all come 272 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: popping up. Multiple designs available this company. They also not 273 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: only is all this American made belts, greatest belts ever. 274 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Their socks like mold to your feet. Go get you 275 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: some grip six gear Man, gripsix dot com slash Jesse. 276 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: All right, grip six dot com slash Jesse. We'll be back. 277 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: National divorce. That one always gets a bit of pushback 278 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: whenever I bring it up. And look, everyone knows what 279 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: I've said about it. I've said it a thousand times. 280 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Shouldn't we shouldn't be living together? We are? We are 281 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: a couple with nothing in common now, and all we 282 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: do is throw th at each other and get the 283 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: cops called on us. Now, I'm not naive. I don't 284 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: think it's going to happen, and at least not the 285 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: way I want it. But it's something that's made its 286 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: way into the national consciousness. Marjorie Taylor Green, congresswoman yesterday quote, 287 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: we need a national divorce, and she needs. She goes 288 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: on to talk about separation between red and blue states. 289 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I want to hear what Liz wheel 290 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: has to say about it. Maybe she would yell at me, 291 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: joining me now the great Liz Wheeler of the awesome 292 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Lizz Wheeler Show, which you can watch right here on 293 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: the first TV. Liz, I don't want to live around 294 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: these people. I want a divorce. I know when you 295 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: said that I would yell at you. It actually made 296 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: me laugh because I was in my head when you 297 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: were giving the introduction. I was deciding what the most 298 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: polite way to completely disagree with you was, because I 299 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: think a national divorce is a terrible idea for a 300 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. Hear me out here, first of all, 301 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: and I don't want to usurp your role as the 302 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: host here, but I'm actually interested in your explanation of 303 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: what a national divorce is. Is this something that entails 304 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: a civil war? Is something where we just where people 305 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: that are Republican move to red states, people that are 306 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: liberal moved to blue states. What does this actually look like? 307 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: Because I don't foresee any circumstance, regardless of what it is, 308 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: that this would work. I mean, do you want bloodshed? Okay, 309 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: that is actually a very good point, and I'm glad 310 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: you brought that upside realized we do have some new 311 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: viewers on this one. I want a national divorce specifically 312 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: because I want to avoid bloodshed at all costs. I 313 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 1: don't want anybody to get hurt. I believe we are 314 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: on a collision course as a nation where people are 315 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: going to start getting hurt on the regular basis. I 316 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't want the cops call it anymore. 317 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: I think it would be better if we just sat down. 318 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: And I'm not naive, I know this is not going 319 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: to happen, but I think it would be better if 320 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: we just agreed that we hate each other, sit down, 321 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: and let's divide up the assets of liabilities. Who gets 322 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: the kid? It's on the weekend, who gets Grandma's China set? 323 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: And I understand it's not going to happen, Liz, But 324 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: I also argue this full disclosure. I say, it's already 325 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: happ anyway. We are now because we are at least 326 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: two different societies. People are moving the vote. The numbers 327 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: on people moving already shows you that people will not 328 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: live under this. They won't live under that. We're already separating. 329 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: How eventually that happens in the end, I don't know, 330 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 1: But to answer your question in a shorter way, I 331 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: want a national divorce because I don't want a single 332 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: drop of bloodshed. That's why I want it. Okay, So 333 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: I understand your feeling here. I understand. I think we 334 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: all feel the same way. Right. We see these neo 335 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: marks as these communists looking at us, trying to coerce 336 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: us to adhere and celebrate their ideology. They're coming after 337 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: our children, They're coming after our churches, They're coming after 338 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: our institutions, and it's horrible. So I totally share your opinion. 339 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to live in a place that these 340 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: people have access to my family, have access to my religion, 341 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: have access to my children either. However, what you're describing 342 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't work because it's making an assumption about the ideology 343 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: of the left that isn't true of the left. And 344 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: the assumption, the assumption that would be necessary in order 345 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: for a national divorce to even work, would be assuming 346 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: that the left wants to live by their values and 347 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: their morals in their own homes mind you know, minding 348 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: their own business, and that we do the same. You know, 349 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: whether this is next door neighbors, whether this is a 350 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: different city, whether this is a different state. It's almost 351 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: more of a libertarian mindset that would be required for 352 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: this to work, the sort of mutual tolerance of differences, 353 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: this parallel economy. But we know that that's not what 354 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: the radical leftist ideology is. We know that even in 355 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: the reddest of states, take Kansas for example, what's what's 356 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: a redder state? In Kansas, the radical left could not 357 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: could not accept the idea that the people of that 358 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: state might want to ban abortion after roviewaid was overturned. 359 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: What the radical left did is they paid a lot 360 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: of money to export their lies, their propaganda into Kansas 361 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: to impose their ideology on those people in that state. 362 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: We know that this it's an imperialist ideology, right. They 363 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: want to break our families apart. They don't want us 364 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: to respect their pseudo family structure. They want to come 365 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: and force us to drop our religion, to close down 366 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: our businesses, to celebrate their religion, really their ideology, or 367 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: else use the force and the power of the law 368 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: in order to coerce us. So I think it wouldn't 369 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: work because we wouldn't just divide, separate, and you know, 370 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: call it a day. They still want us. They would 371 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: never they would never accept that. That's sort of the 372 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: practicality of the thing. I think there's actually a bigger 373 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 1: reason not to do this, though, and the reason is 374 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: it's a loser mentality. It's a defeatist attitude. The only 375 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: reason that someone like Marjorie Taylor Green would even consider 376 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: a national divorce is if she thinks she can't win. 377 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: Do you sit here, do you think that we can't 378 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: vanquish these communists? Do you think that they are unbeatable? 379 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Do you think that we are such losers that we 380 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: can't figure out how to counter their strategies and their 381 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: tactics and their infiltration and their indoctrination in a way 382 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: that actually obliterates that ideology from taking over the United States. 383 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: I refuse to take part in a loser mentality. I 384 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: refuse to surrender not only the geography of our nation, 385 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: but think about California. California is a very blue state. 386 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: But in the recall election for Gavin Newsom that took 387 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: place a year or two ago, there were five million 388 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: Californians who voted to recall Newsom. We would be surrendering 389 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: those people, Republicans, common sense individuals who live for better 390 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: or for worse, and blue states who might not have 391 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: the opportunity to move away. I find that to be 392 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: so amoral, so such an atrocious idea that we would 393 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: surrender those people, because it's not just vague states, as 394 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: we are surrendering states because we think we are too 395 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: loser to defeat the mark societology. I rejected out right. Okay, 396 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: counterpoint one, I don't want to single Republican in California 397 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: left behind. It should be noted that Jesse Kelly's wonderful 398 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: national divorce plan evolves a grace period so people have 399 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: time to move and live under the government of their choosing. 400 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: But two, I want to get to the other part 401 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: of yours. What you said about them not letting us go. 402 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: I've heard this argument before and it's by far the 403 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: best argument against national divorce. You're not wrong, You're one 404 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. These people are ravenous wolves who would 405 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 1: come for us in a harvey. You're correct in that. 406 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: But however, you're incorrect about something else. This attitude we have, 407 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: and I respect it. I love I've always loved you 408 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: for being such a fighter. But this attitude we have, 409 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm not surrendering a thing. That sounds great, but in 410 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: real life, so let's focus on military campaigns. In real life, 411 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: that's not how it works. The enemy has troops to 412 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: the enemy, fights to the enemy, seizes ground two and 413 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: sometimes tactical surrender so you can move your troops to 414 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: a better part so they don't get wiped out. Is 415 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: great generalship. We have a country. George Washington gave us 416 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: this country because that's what he did. He wouldn't fight forever. 417 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I Nope, not gonna fight here, Nope, you can have that. Nope, 418 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: going to back out here. Tactical retreat. It's not surrender, 419 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: it's not cowardice. It's necessary, and if you don't do it, 420 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: you're all gonna get wiped out, That's what I say. Well, 421 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: my counter counterpoint to that would be, what's the limiting 422 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: principle on that? I mean, apply that not just to 423 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: these flowery sounding military rhetoric, which sounds great. I understand 424 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: the point you're making. That's true in a conventional war, 425 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: but apply that to the family unit. Are you going 426 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: to surrender? Are you going to surrender one of your children? 427 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: And say, okay, well, sometimes you have to give up 428 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of the property. You can't have everything. 429 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: You got to retreat before everyone's wiped out. You would 430 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: never be willing to sacrifice your wife or one of 431 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: your children. And that's the same thing we'd be sacrificing 432 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: somebody's wife, somebody's husband, somebody's children. Because it's not just land, 433 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: it's not just geography, it's not just boundaries around states. 434 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: These are real people that we're talking about. So no, 435 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm not willing to do a tactical surrender. I don't believe. 436 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: I don't believe that the choice is that defeatist. I 437 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: don't believe that we have to choose between either either 438 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: tactically surrendering part of our country or losing all of it. 439 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: I believe that we can win it all. Not every 440 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: person's heart in mind, but from a legal standpoint, I 441 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: believe we kind of eradicate the communist ideology if we identify, 442 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: acknowledge the reality of it, understand how they're fighting, and 443 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: then ruthlessly fight back against them. We started doing this 444 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. It's not just some it's 445 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: not just some utopian idea of mine. Okay, I respect that. 446 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: That's a good argument. Liz Wheeler, The Liz Wheeler Show, 447 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: appreciate you, Liz. Thanks Jesse. All right, speaking of fighting, 448 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: we have a heavyweight boxer on next. That'd be fun. 449 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if he wants to fight Liz Wheeler. I'm kidding. 450 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure he doesn't want to fight Liz Wheeler. But 451 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 1: let's talk about your dog. I will admit something to you. 452 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: I didn't want a dog. It's not that it's not 453 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: that I don't I don't like dogs. I grew up 454 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: with dogs. It is sitting with the extra hassle. We 455 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: have sons, boys need a dog. We were kind of 456 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: under that philosophy, so we bought them a dog, this idiot, 457 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: and they named him Fred. And now I love the 458 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: stupid dog, and I'd like it if he would stick 459 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: around as long as possible, So I give him rough 460 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Greens every day. Well more specifically, the boys actually do, 461 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: because they feed him every morning and night. But for 462 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: his breakfast he gets the same dog food, but he 463 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: gets rough Greens poured over the top of it, all 464 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: natural nutritional supplement. He used to puke up every meal 465 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: is a sensitive stomach. Of course, that we get a 466 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: dog like that doesn't do that anymore. Thank you, Rough Greens. 467 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: They're giving out free Jumpstart trial bags right now. All 468 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: you pay for is the shipping. Go get one for 469 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: your puppy. You might just stick around a little longer. 470 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: Go to rough greens dot com slash jesse. All right, 471 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse, we'll be back. One of 472 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: the things I like, well like and dislike about this 473 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: current world we have is there are a lot of 474 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: dudes in this society. I'm sure women too, but I'm 475 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: not gonna speak for women right now. There are a 476 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of dudes in our society who grew up without 477 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: a good father or a good male influence in their lives. 478 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: And when you get older, then you need that direction, 479 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: you need help. So I don't like that part. But 480 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: here's one part I do like. I do like that 481 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: there are people out there, He's readily available, people out 482 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: there that are offering these lessons. Lessons men need lessons. 483 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: A lot of men didn't get to no fault to 484 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: their own lessons that are going to help us all 485 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: be a little bit better. One of the best accounts 486 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: out there if you're on social media on Twitter, and 487 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: I'd highly recommend his substack for this kind of stuff, 488 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: not politics, just more life stuff is Ed Lattimore, former 489 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: heavyweight boxer who will punch your head off your shoulders 490 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: and you can also find at Ed Lattimore dot substack 491 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: dot com. And first of all, who are you and 492 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: where'd you come from? Man? So I'm Ed Latimer. Do 493 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: you hear me? Are a loud clear? Got you loud 494 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: and clear? Just making sure? Yeah? So, yeah, I'm a man, 495 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: lad man, and I came from came from another human, 496 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: just like the rest of us. And that was But 497 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: I was born in Pittsburgh, PA. Grew up there typical 498 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: kind of at risk youth, childhood, single mom, public house, 499 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, the whole nun and I faced a lot 500 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: of those issues that you were talking about, and you know, 501 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: you figured figured things out through a lot of a 502 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: lot of hard work, a lot of a lot of events, 503 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, putting myself into these difficult positions, because I 504 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: think one of the things that that you don't get 505 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: when you don't have a masculine influence and around or 506 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: in the house or anything positive, really like that, if 507 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: a masculine nature, you don't realize the necessity of pushing 508 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: yourself and getting uncomfortable and and really seeing what you're 509 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: made of. But but not in a way where it's like, 510 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, I see a lot of this stuff that's 511 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: online today where it talks about this idea of getting 512 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: out of your comfort zone, being pushed to you uncomfortable, 513 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: but it's like, na, you know, it's one thing to 514 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: do it consciously. You're not gonna push the artists. It's 515 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: a totally different story when you're when you're in the ring, 516 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: or when you're when you're in the street, or you're 517 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: figuring out how to feed yourself that kind of stuff. Uh. Yeah, 518 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: So so I picked all that up and I really 519 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: think I've turned into a certainly someone that is you 520 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: could do worse in terms of people to listen to. 521 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: I think I have. I think I have a lot 522 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: of good things to say. At the very least, what 523 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: I try to do is live a good life for 524 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: myself and and everyone else. They followed an example, I 525 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: think people turn out pretty well. Yeah, no, you're one 526 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: of the better ones for that kind of stuff. And 527 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: you talk about making yourself uncomfortable a lot, especially as 528 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 1: a man. Explain that to me, Why should I want that? 529 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: And I don't want I don't want to. I don't 530 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: want to be uncomfortable. As soon as I'm done and 531 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: I take this yer or piece side of my ear, 532 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: I want to throw on some sweats, and I want 533 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: to sit out with the pizza, and I want to 534 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: put my feet up on the couch. I don't want 535 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. Why do you want me to be uncomfortable? 536 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: You know? So? So that's not first of all, it's 537 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: not wrong with feeling that way. That's that's how we 538 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: m ore designed. The way I learned to say, the 539 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: most general way in physics is that all all organisms 540 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: seek the most energy efficient configuration. I we try to 541 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: try to get as most for as little as we 542 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: can put out. But but there's no If you only 543 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: do that, there's only so much you can get. You'll 544 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: get just enough to survive and then that's pretty much it. 545 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, like, look, survived was easy and it's gotten 546 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: even easier. Like there's a lot of people alive today 547 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: who were only here, you know, because fresh drinking water 548 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: is never more than fifteen minutes away. You know, it's 549 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: not it's not a very hard life, but you need 550 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: to be exposed to these difficulties. You need to break 551 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: out of that homeostatic kind of comfort zone to become 552 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: more capable and more efficient, because look, life will get harder. 553 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: It's one thing that is like very clear that whatever 554 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: you're doing at twenty or however you're living, it's it's 555 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: harder than it was to dot at fifteen. And you 556 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: can't really you don't really know. But then when you 557 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: turn twenty five, if you look and see, oh man, 558 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: some of the some of these cats I went to 559 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: school with, they're all good, they got money, they're living, 560 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: but not everybody, so you can kind of ignore that. 561 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: But by thirty it's like, ooh, we're bad. And by 562 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: thirty five it's nuts. And after that, you know, you 563 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: just kind of kind of disappear and all you're in. 564 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: You're stuck in your waist unless you you shake yourself 565 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 1: out of that comfort. And that means you have to 566 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: do things by definition that are difficult because it's not 567 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: in that zone of energy efficiency. You know, like something 568 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: basic that everyone uses as an example, but it's very 569 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: true and illustrates the point. Well, going to the gym 570 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: and building your body up. It really is awesome to 571 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: just sit around. And I mean, I don't think it's 572 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: awesome anymore if it makes me sick to think about it, 573 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: but at some point a lot of us I think 574 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: it's awesome or thinks it's awesome. I thought it was 575 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: awesome to to chill out watch Netflix all day and 576 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: eat junk food and drink soda or beer whatever your 577 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: poison is. But okay, but you're gonna get older. Your 578 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: body's gonna be the greatest, going to start breaking down 579 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: against tom against gravity, just against the force of life. 580 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: And if you don't build that up right, you'll be 581 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: You'll you'll end up spending your last years, which will 582 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: be shorter by the way, you won't have as many 583 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: you'll end to spending. I'm sick. It's the same. If 584 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: you don't don't work and develop a skill, it's very 585 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: easy to just be stupid, very easy. Being stupid doesn't 586 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: really pay well. So you probably should not be as 587 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: stupid as as you can be, unless you're like a 588 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: great athlete, and even then you might do something dumb. 589 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: But but that's your scenario too. You still have to 590 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: work very hard. There's no way around this. If you 591 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: want to have anything that resembles a nice time on 592 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: this planet, and you only got what seventy eighty years, 593 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully they're nice, they're a good time. You're 594 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: not you're not suffering, you know, and writes of passage. 595 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: You talk about this, You've written about this, writes a passage. 596 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: Why does that matter because you have to be look 597 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 1: or you're a kid. Being a kid is cool because 598 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: you get to you get to go take risks, and 599 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of assumed that you don't know what you're doing. 600 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: And not only assume, I mean you really don't. That's 601 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: what parents are for. They're there to go, oh, that's 602 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: a really bad idea. You shouldn't do that. And if 603 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: if it's too bad of an idea, not only you know, 604 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,959 Speaker 1: tell you not to, but then correctively change your mind 605 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: about it in the future, or dissuade you with some 606 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: type of discipline. That's the idea. That's what parents do. 607 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: Where there comes a point where you're not going to 608 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: have that parental guidance. Now society recognizes this at age eighteen. 609 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: At that point your charge as an adult. If you 610 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,919 Speaker 1: commit a crime, you know, there's the debate out there 611 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: that we should extend that out or at least give 612 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: give some consideration. Because the prefund the cortex, that part 613 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: of your brain, it says, Yo, the future is coming in, 614 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: we probably should do not do this or do this. 615 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: It's not fully formed to your twenty five But you're 616 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: not really an adult until a certain point by society's 617 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: legal standards. But there comes a point where you have autonomy, 618 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: and autonomy comes with more freedom, but it also comes 619 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: with responsibilities and you're no longer shielded from the consequences 620 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: of the dumb stuff you do. You have to eat 621 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: the whole thing. You know, back in the day they 622 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: actually used to you know, if the crime's hamous up 623 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: that Will Charger was an adult. Now just like going 624 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: there because I want to compare the legal system to 625 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: how we look at this or maybe where they got 626 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: the different. What a writer of passage does in theory 627 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: is that it exposes the child to an event that 628 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: will force them to become an adult. If not legally, 629 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: then certainly and we'll say conduct okay where people will 630 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: look at you and go you know better. Now, we'll 631 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 1: treat you as if someone who knows better. You're no 632 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: longer get to hide behind innocence, you know, the the 633 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: lack of exposure to consequences and the tough parts of life. 634 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: So we all need the type of writing passage. We 635 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: all need to figure out how to struggle and is 636 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: evolve on our own. Yeah. One of the debates I've 637 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 1: got into repeatedly on social media is about the idea. 638 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: But like you know, when should a child move out 639 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: of their parents' home? And I've heard all types of 640 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: arguments on different sides of it, h and some of 641 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: them and then they're good points they make, But ultimately 642 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: what I go with is that at some point a 643 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: child has to learn how to life, has to learn 644 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: to survive with It's not about getting out and being 645 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,439 Speaker 1: completely comfortable because your parents, if your parents are any 646 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: type of people, they're not gonna let you fail completely, 647 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: but you should probably believe they will, and that will 648 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: motivate you to make the right decisions and things like 649 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: that in regards to little basic things like finances, cleaning 650 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: your house, paying the rent all the time, little stuff 651 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: like that simple writer passage of society. But here's where 652 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: we're at. People are arguing with me that that's a 653 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: bad idea. You should let your kids stay until they're 654 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: completely ready to get out on their own. And I 655 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,439 Speaker 1: want I'm not saying, you know, bood hour at eighteen, Yeah, 656 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: go figure it out your fly. But at the same time, 657 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: the idea that they can just stay until they're ready 658 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: and comfortable to move on this comfort idea. We're so 659 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: obsessed with the idea that the thing shouldn't have hurt, 660 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: and then anytime there's pain, that means that we've we've 661 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: made a wrong decision. And in the short term, perhaps 662 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: that is correct, like in the pure sense of the 663 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: word of what pain is. But it's a necessary decision, 664 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: you know. It's it's you gotta get your lumps. It's 665 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: like there's certain stoves you have to touch to know 666 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: they're hot u and it doesn't matter how many times 667 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: someone tells you they're hot or how tough the callousies 668 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: you get on your hands are somehow you you have 669 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: to touch on and go. That's just not smart and 670 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: part of that, that's a part of growth, part of growth, 671 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: you know. John Hype, Yeah, John high has has a 672 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: great stuff with doctor John Hyde about the coddling of 673 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: the American mon and how you know more or less 674 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: that the TFDR kids aren't taking risking more. They're not 675 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: going on dates, they're not getting their driver's licenses, they're 676 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: not socializing. You know, we got twenty seven percent of 677 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: him under the age of thirty or virgins. And how 678 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: does that happen? That that happens, because look, Ben, you 679 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: could to keep a PG or in television a friendly 680 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: there's somebody for everybody, right, But but it's a lot easier, 681 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 1: you know, with the Internet and all of the artificial 682 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: intercourse that you can see to not do that, to 683 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: shield yourself from taking these risks and getting uncomfortable, getting rejected, 684 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: that kind of thing, work on your body and pulling 685 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: your finances. The whole thing is a mess. And Lattimore, 686 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: you're the best man. Go subscribe to a substack I 687 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 1: appreciate your brother. Hey, thank you for having me man Betman, 688 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: I love that guy. All right, we got light in 689 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: the mood. That's before we get to light in the mood. 690 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: You know what's hard, losing all your money. That's really hard. Look, 691 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 1: we all had a year. You probably have if you 692 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: have any kind of investments for a one kira, you 693 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: probably haven't on your phone, don't you? How do you 694 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: do last year? I don't know about you. At one 695 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: point in time, I deleted the app. Call Oks for 696 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: Gold Group today. You know what they'll do. And by 697 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: the way, I want to stress this, I love these 698 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: emails you sent me about how nice they are to 699 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: work with, how laid back it is. I wanted. This 700 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: is not some five gold today. You're not gonna get 701 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: anything like that. Real chill, real relaxed. What they're gonna 702 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: do is they're gonna incorporate gold and silver into your 703 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,759 Speaker 1: four oh one k and ra, making sure what you've 704 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: worked hard for is still there for you. All right, 705 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: call eight three three nine nine five Gold. Tell them 706 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: Jesse told you to call their super chill. It's something 707 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: we all need to do, especially given the financial news 708 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,720 Speaker 1: out there. Eight three three nine Gold Oxford Gold Group. 709 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: We'll be back speaking in front of people as we 710 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: go into light in the mood here. Speaking in front 711 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: of people is one of those things that some people 712 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: find terrifying. Maybe you are one of those people and 713 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's not an issue for me. 714 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: But I will tell you, I get it. I get it. 715 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: You're a flesh and blood human being. You have to 716 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: stand up in front of other human beings. Maybe it's 717 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: on a zoom call these days, or a conference room, 718 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: or maybe it's a full auditorium and you have to 719 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: speak about something. What are all those other people going 720 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: to think about me? Do I have a booker hanging 721 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: out in my notes? Imagine? So imagine this. I think 722 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: about this a lot like these games shows, these TV 723 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 1: game shows. Imagine going on there Jeopardy Wheel, Fortune, SE's 724 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: where we're going here. In a second. Imagine going on 725 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: there and having an embarrassing moment with all these people, 726 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: millions of people watching you on TV. How bad would 727 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: that suck? Would you ever sleep again? Well, you would 728 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: if you had a ghost bed. Even if you embarrass 729 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: the daylights out of yourself, you can still sleep easy 730 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: knowing that you have the greatest mattress ever, an American 731 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: made mattress by a family company that's been doing this 732 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: for a very long time. Go check your mattress. Now, 733 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: check where that mattress was made. Go get a ghost bed, 734 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: especially while they're thirty percent off right now forty percent off. 735 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: If you get the adjustable base with it. You know 736 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: you just gotta reoppress a button you lean up in 737 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: the bed. It's glorious. Go to ghostbed dot com, slash Jesse, 738 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,399 Speaker 1: promo code Jesse, and I don't help you sleep off 739 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: this embarrassing moment. This embarrassing moment courtesy of Wheel of Fortune. Yes, 740 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:55,320 Speaker 1: there isn't a solid or spin it or but do 741 00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: something quickly. Okay, okay, what letter for you? I'll go 742 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: with a Gee, Julianna, it's your turn. I'd like to 743 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: solve the puzzle fresh tropical fruit. Yeah. You know when 744 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: that happens, when you're sitting at home, you're saying, how 745 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: in the world can you? But you know, and sometimes 746 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: it's a word that just don't want to come into 747 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: focus for you. I'll see them all