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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: Getty and know He Armstrong and Yeddy.

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Speaker 2: The Postal Service, FedEx and UPS just announced their holidays

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Speaker 2: shipping deadlines. The FedEx and UPS deadline is December twenty third,

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Speaker 2: and the Postal Service deadline is last Easter. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: last day to ship the gift is December twenty third.

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Speaker 2: Then scratchhofs are like after that, all.

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Speaker 1: Use that is a set. Sorry.

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Speaker 3: I think you take your scratch offs as Christmas presents

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Speaker 3: holiday class.

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Speaker 4: My mom always gets those forced every single year for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: It's been a tradition in our households.

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Speaker 4: Only one time a year, I have a lottery ticket

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Speaker 4: is in the stocking hung with care.

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Speaker 1: Interesting that people laugh there. It's just a.

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Speaker 4: Given, a given that we think the taxpayer funded government

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Speaker 4: run package delivery is worse than the private company. We're

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Speaker 4: just all in agreement with that enough that we can

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Speaker 4: make a joke like that.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's a truism, sure, yeah, Ah. I've been asked

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Speaker 3: to read this to you, and so I will. I

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Speaker 3: am nothing if not obedient. Our Christmas shipping deadline has passed.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, we get at some of your procrastinators will

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Speaker 3: do you a favor free shipping for anyone who wants

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Speaker 3: to roll the dice, because it's not like you won't

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Speaker 3: get your fabulous A and G swag in time for Christmas.

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Speaker 3: It's just a little bit uncertain at this point. So

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Speaker 3: you got Armstrong and Getty dot com. Get your ruin

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Speaker 3: the entire country. Tea that's here Gavin twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 4: We were talking about genetic tendencies earlier. I wish procrastination

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Speaker 4: would be looked at at the highest level. They need

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Speaker 4: to do a moon shot on procrastination and figure that out,

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Speaker 4: and figure out how to use crisper technology to gene.

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Speaker 1: Edit that out of people, because it's horrible.

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Speaker 4: I've got it, and one of my kids has it,

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Speaker 4: one of them has it, and one of them doesn't,

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Speaker 4: and it's just.

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Speaker 1: Never mind eye color. How about procrastinations?

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Speaker 4: No kidding, no kidding, I don't care how tall they are.

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Speaker 4: I want to give them the gift of not being

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Speaker 4: a procrastinator. Speaking of passing on your genes to your children.

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Speaker 4: Your headline of the day.

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Speaker 3: And maybe we'll take a look inside the China cabinet

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Speaker 3: later because I've got a lot of good China stuff.

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Speaker 3: But China adds tax to condoms as it works to

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Speaker 3: boost birth rates. Well, if you want less of something,

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Speaker 3: you tax it. If you want more of something, you

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Speaker 3: subsidize it. That's why we tax employment and subsidize drug

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Speaker 3: addicts in America. Moving a law, they're taxing condoms, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to try to get people to use them less.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the tax would have to be just confiscatory, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean I'd rather haven't raise a child than spend

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Speaker 3: that extra thirty cents, so.

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Speaker 1: Right, exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they're is the question of do you

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Speaker 3: want to straw or will you sip your iced tea.

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Speaker 1: Out of your glass?

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Speaker 3: Nah? I don't need a straw. No, it's it's a

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Speaker 3: condome for goodness sakes. Anyway, moving along, I thought this

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Speaker 3: was interesting. Who is using what social media in the

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Speaker 3: United States right now? The numbers are in for this

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Speaker 3: last year and they are interesting and as you might guess,

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Speaker 3: they very significantly by age group demographics. YouTube and Facebook

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Speaker 3: remain the most widely used online platforms.

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Speaker 1: Eighty four percent of US adults say they use YouTube

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Speaker 1: at least occasionally.

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Speaker 4: I use YouTube every day, probably I I'm not a

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Speaker 4: big social media guy. Really YouTube YouTube? I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't use YouTube as social media.

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Speaker 3: It has comments, and people post short.

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Speaker 1: Videos and stuff like that. It's a quasi.

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Speaker 3: Social media anyway. That that that seventy one percent report

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Speaker 3: Half of adults say they use Instagram, making it the

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Speaker 3: only other platform in the survey used by at least

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of Americans. Significantly smaller shares use the other

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Speaker 3: sites and apps they asked about, such as TikTok, which

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Speaker 3: is not only a communist Chinese spy device and a

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Speaker 3: by thirty seven percent of American adults.

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Speaker 1: Can you what is app? Yes? Can you? I answer

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Speaker 1: this question, Katie, because I think it's important.

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Speaker 4: Like, for instance, I like the fact that my kids

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Speaker 4: aren't on social media as I define it. They're not

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Speaker 4: on Facebook or TikTok or Instagram, but YouTube's listed there

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Speaker 4: they are. They both use YouTube a lot. In what

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Speaker 4: way is you? Do you use YouTube as social media? Well,

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Speaker 4: you're a millennial. We're let's beyond boomers. We're the silent generation.

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Speaker 4: Joe and I were born in the twenties.

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Speaker 1: I would think it's social media, silent to the last

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Speaker 5: I would think it's social media because you can record

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Speaker 5: content and put it out there for people to comment on.

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Speaker 5: And they've kind of gone the way of Instagram and

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Speaker 5: TikTok with those shorts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you think of my kids or

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Speaker 1: me use it that way. No.

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Speaker 3: No, when you say your kids are not on TikTok,

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Speaker 3: how do you know that?

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Speaker 4: Well, they don't have the apps. You don't need the app.

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Speaker 4: How do you use TikTok without the app, just the website?

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Speaker 4: Who's better with the app?

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Speaker 3: I'm told whatever that means the Chinese burrow their way

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Speaker 3: deeper into your soul.

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Speaker 4: But every time I've tried to use a TikTok without

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Speaker 4: the app on my phone, it wouldn't let me.

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Speaker 3: So that's interesting. Anyway they tell me to know, have

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Speaker 3: you have you rebooted? Let's see moving along, where were we? Okay,

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Speaker 3: so What's App it rebooted. What's App is thirty two percent.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know What's App. If somebody I just I

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Speaker 4: Would somebody I don't even remember what it was like

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Speaker 4: a month ago, or somebody only wanted to communicate through

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Speaker 4: What's App instead of texting.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so much better. It's it's a phone number

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Speaker 1: without an actual phone number.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's very easy. But I didn't understand the

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Speaker 4: advantage of it over texting. I guess it's encrypted or something.

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Speaker 1: Then that helps. I don't need my message terrors communicate.

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Speaker 4: I don't need my messages and encrypted. But if you do,

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Speaker 4: I guess it's good for you. About a third of

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Speaker 4: Americans use What's App.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised somewhat fewers say the same as Reddit

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Speaker 3: twenty six percent, Snapchat twenty five percent, x is twenty

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Speaker 3: one percent, threads eight percent, Blue Sky is four percent.

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Speaker 1: Man, do you hear about that?

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Speaker 3: You know it's proof of what the media is that

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Speaker 3: you hear references to Blue Sky as often as you

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Speaker 3: do if you're into the news. It's four percent of Americans.

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Speaker 3: Truth Social is three percent.

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Speaker 4: By the way, a couple of my oldest son's friends,

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Speaker 4: children of college educated, well to do, active parents, good families,

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Speaker 4: they have the TikTok app and watch TikTok videos. They

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Speaker 4: go to sleep watching TikTok. That's how they.

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Speaker 3: Fall asleep in Oh boy, what are we doing to

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Speaker 3: our children? What is Mark Zuckerberg doing in the Chinese

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Speaker 3: doing to our children? As you might have guessed already,

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Speaker 3: there are huge age gaps in the use of a

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Speaker 3: lot of platforms adults under thirty. Let's see well, for instance,

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Speaker 3: Instagram eighteen to twenty nine year olds, because this is

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Speaker 3: just adults we're talking about here, eighty percent of those

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Speaker 3: young people are on Instagram, ninety five percent YouTube again,

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Speaker 3: is that really sixty three percent of the young folks

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Speaker 3: are on TikTok almost two thirds. And if you look

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Speaker 3: at any poll of where do you get your news,

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Speaker 3: TikTok is number one for young people Chinese communist controlled

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Speaker 3: propaganda sites. Seriously, we're so fat and stupid as the republic,

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Speaker 3: we deserve to go away.

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Speaker 1: I kind of got to broaden your idea of news, though,

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Speaker 1: don't you.

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Speaker 4: Also, I don't know how much news young people are

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Speaker 4: seeking out at all. What's this Pete Eggsatt story about

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Speaker 4: the second tap on the boat?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many people are interested in that

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Speaker 3: at all. Yeah, some of it's it's kind of newsy,

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Speaker 3: but I don't. I don't spend a long time money

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Speaker 3: a lot of news when I was twenty like any really, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's see that and they break it down in all

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Speaker 3: sorts of interesting ways. Men women erase age, household income, urban, rural, lean,

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Speaker 3: Republican or Democrat. Only one percent of Democrats are on

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Speaker 3: truth social for instance.

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Speaker 1: Have you mentioned Twitter?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just that twenty one percent of people are on Twitter. Ever,

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Speaker 3: so it's it's like in uh, what is that? Of course,

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Speaker 3: it's like eighth place.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I know the numbers within Twitter of

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Speaker 4: that twenty one percent on there, only like one percent

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Speaker 4: Well, like Katie, your millennial did did did the evening

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Speaker 4: newscast have any relevance for you?

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Speaker 1: Growing up, No, none for you. Wow.

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Speaker 4: And like in my household, my dad usually somebody flipped

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh okay, I just met. For me, I mean

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Speaker 5: I would always see my dad watching it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm old. But like for my kids, it means zero.

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Speaker 4: I mean they don't even know that there's such thing

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Speaker 3: Could you name your parents favorite weather man or a

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Speaker 3: So yeh, Gavin managed to outlaw teenagers and young people

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Speaker 4: of the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty.

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Speaker 4: Damning comment from the chair of that committee, the Republican chair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete's attempts to control the flow of information out

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Speaker 3: of the Pentagon, particularly, he would tell you classified stuff

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Speaker 3: has probably gone too far or just not been implemented. Well, well,

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Speaker 3: has you hte hear Mike Rodgers, who is a serious man.

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Speaker 4: He is, and also the current Senate Majority Leader John Thune,

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Speaker 4: you know, he took over from the old Turtle dude,

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Speaker 4: has declined to say twice whether he has confidence in Hexas,

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Speaker 4: saying others can make those evaluations. When he's asked twice

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Speaker 4: this week whether he still has confidence in.

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Speaker 1: The Secretary of War. So, yeah, he left his options

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Speaker 1: open there.

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Speaker 3: It's out by the way now, that which was semi

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Speaker 3: obvious that the fella who is in charge of the

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Speaker 3: operations in that part is that the Southern Command? What

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Speaker 3: is the I can ever remember the acronyms and stuff,

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Speaker 3: but the admiral who was in charge, who announced that

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Speaker 3: he was going to retire a year into his three

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Speaker 3: year terms. Indeed, he and Hexath had clashed, particularly over

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Speaker 3: the legality and appropriateness of targeting.

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Speaker 1: The drug votes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not the second strike issue, just the overall issue

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Speaker 4: of are we at war with these people so we

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Speaker 4: have the legal ability to do this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole which umbrella is this.

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Speaker 3: Under war terrorism, narco terrorism or just drug dealing?

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Speaker 1: And how do you define all those things?

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Speaker 3: And then what powers does the military, well the president

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Speaker 3: commander in chief have at his disposal to deal with it.

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Speaker 1: It's really and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, a lot of people, including some of you people

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Speaker 3: listening right now, I'm sure are I don't want to

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Speaker 3: put this in a negative light. We're so used to

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Speaker 3: everything being looked at through the lenses of pro Trump

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Speaker 3: or anti Trump, or even Propeet or anti Pete. And

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Speaker 3: I love a lot of things Pete hags Outh is doing,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely love them, but not all of them.

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Speaker 1: The question of whether this.

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Speaker 3: Is an appropriate use for military force is a really

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Speaker 3: interesting one, and folks like Andy McCarthy, who was practically

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Speaker 3: standing on the ramparts, you know, bloody down to his

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Speaker 3: last bullet, defending Trump during all of the lawfare. He's

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Speaker 3: a warrior for justice in that case, he's saying, no,

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Speaker 3: this is a stretch, this is an abuse of the

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Speaker 3: use of the military. It's a criminal matter, and we're

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Speaker 3: setting a really really dangerous president with this. I happen

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Speaker 3: to think he's got a really good point. So, you know,

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Speaker 3: before we even get to the whole double tap thing,

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Speaker 3: which I suspect pretty strongly is really overblown. It's become

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Speaker 3: very partisan and suspect, Yeah, they're underlying questions.

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Speaker 4: Well, I at this point it definitely looks overblown. But

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Speaker 4: they brought this on themselves. The headline from National Review

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Speaker 4: the Trump teams convoluted conflicting accounts of the drug boat

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Speaker 4: seeking and they go through various statements that were made

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Speaker 4: that just don't fit together.

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Speaker 1: Whye do that? You didn't need to do that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if the guys falling across the boat radio and

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Speaker 4: another drug boat, hey we got some of the drugs,

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Speaker 4: come pick them up. And it's still an active part

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Speaker 4: of that. This is all under the assumption that we're

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Speaker 4: at war with these people. Then the lawyer sitting right

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Speaker 4: there and makes the judgment. Well, it's a completely different

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Speaker 4: story than the way it was portrayed a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think part of this is just because the Trump

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Speaker 3: administration in most cases has this amazing transparentness slash availability

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Speaker 1: Trump asked answers twenty seven questions a.

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Speaker 3: Day, which is amazing given the recent history. The problem, though,

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Speaker 3: is there's a lot of going off half cocked. There's

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Speaker 3: a lot of well, I don't know, but uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: this and and you know, I think that's probably gone

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Speaker 3: too far. You don't want this sort of utterly dishonest,

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Speaker 3: calculated messaging of the Biden administration, which was a nightmare

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Speaker 3: first amendment wise and responsiveness of the government. And oh,

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Speaker 3: by the way, he was completely senile and poop in

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Speaker 3: But this is probably too far because it's haphazard, and

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Speaker 3: it could be I don't know that it is.

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Speaker 1: It could be. This whole double tap thing is one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent justifiable.

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Speaker 3: It is by the book. It is, there's just no

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Speaker 3: questioning it. But you create the appearance of floundering or dishonesty.

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Speaker 3: When as you described, you got conflicting kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: It's not good.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, she was talking about how.

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Speaker 4: Not the scandal like this boat thing, but any of

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Speaker 4: what was that? It was so obvious what that was,

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Speaker 4: close to our age. If you're a gen X person,

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Speaker 4: you grew up with Watergate and all these hearings that

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Speaker 4: mattered and got to the bottom of something, and for

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Speaker 4: our generation we kind of feel like, and that's what happens,

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Speaker 4: and that's what should happen. But that was just a

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Speaker 4: tiny blip in our history. The history of the country

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Speaker 4: is all kinds of scandals happen all the time, and

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Speaker 4: almost nobody ever pays a price for them. That is

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Speaker 4: way more true than those of us who have in

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Speaker 4: our mind as little kids watching the Watergate earrings and thinking, yep,

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Speaker 4: people get their feet held to the fire when they

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Speaker 4: go too far, because that almost never happens, and you've

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Speaker 4: got all kinds of examples through history.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason.

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Speaker 4: As a population, we just you know, superpartisans will care.

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Speaker 4: But you don't get enough of the bulk of the

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Speaker 4: electric to care about any of these things, to really

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Speaker 4: dig into them, which is horrible.

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Speaker 3: What's the takeaway? What's the takeaway? I think the takeaway

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Speaker 3: is hand but he needs What's that? Humans can't govern themselves?

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Speaker 3: That's my takeaway.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's yeah, that's the bottom line.

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Speaker 3: But I think the takeaway is government is and always

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Speaker 3: has been a cesspool of corruption. That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: That's it's like, you know, it's like being surprised the

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Speaker 3: dog has fur. It's just that's what government always is.

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Speaker 3: But people have been hoodwinked into this idea that, no,

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Speaker 3: it's mostly good and noble. Occasionally around the edges there

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Speaker 3: are small problems. That's just not true. It's like I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about the Somali thing, the billions of dollars,

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Speaker 3: and my god, when you look at the spigot of

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Speaker 3: cash during COVID and so many hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 3: Saying we should have the government or the government ought

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Speaker 3: to ought to be seen that phrase in the same

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Speaker 3: way as you know, if you're twelve year old says, first,

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Speaker 3: give me the car keys, and just immediately you ought

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Speaker 3: to think.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to hear what comes next. Right, We've

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Speaker 3: got to be extremely cautious here. But we're the opposite.

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Speaker 3: We've been sold on this idea that the government's going

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Speaker 3: to solve all of our freaking problems.

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Speaker 1: It makes me crazy.

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Speaker 4: Their take, and then I'll end with this is was

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Speaker 4: basically I guess you'd called cynicism.

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Speaker 1: Was just yeah, that's that's the way it is. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing you can do about it. You know.

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Speaker 4: You find out Hillary Clinton, you know, it turns out

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Speaker 4: day she ever tried.

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Speaker 1: Uh, nothing illegal there.

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Speaker 4: And people just think, yeah, that's the way it works

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Speaker 4: for the rich and powerful, and just kind of roll

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Speaker 1: You just can't get these things to stick. Ever. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: out of that?

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Speaker 1: Not as much as you should.

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Speaker 4: There's an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal today

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's ally fixing it.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know how they would. I've been following

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Speaker 3: that story for years and years. Coming up next hour

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Speaker 3: by the way, has the British Civil War already begun?

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Speaker 3: It has according to a respected historian, not a fake

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson jew hating historian, a real historian.

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Speaker 1: And it is both really interesting and really troubling. So

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Speaker 1: stay with us for that. Is Oliver Cromwell involved her, No,

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Speaker 1: he is not. Can't be substantiated.

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Speaker 4: Man, if a guy has got nineteen point eight billion downloads,

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Speaker 4: he should be a billionaire.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he's Yeah, from that alone, yeah,

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Speaker 3: not just doing shows and stuff like that. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: those numbers are mind boggling. I really ought to, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, subject myself to some of his over.

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Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, most of the stuff my son listens to I

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Speaker 4: can't stand. But he had some new chick that he

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Speaker 4: was into that we were playing yesterday as we were

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Speaker 4: running errands that I liked, and it was it was

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Speaker 4: just fantastic. It was some music that he leads into

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Speaker 4: that I could enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: Also, Oh good good. I had Courtney Barnett pop up again. Now,

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Speaker 3: she's been a thing for a long time now, but

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Speaker 3: I remember your initial description of her as the really

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Speaker 3: the number one lead artist in the Dead Pan lesbian

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Speaker 3: genre and that is that is the perfect description. So

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Speaker 3: this has nothing to do with music. Did you have

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Speaker 3: more on Spotify or anything like that? Okay, so follow

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Speaker 3: up to last segment's discussion about you know, just the

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Speaker 3: government is fraud, It is corruption, it is waste of

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Speaker 3: money and always will be. This is a great piece

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Speaker 3: from Reason dot Com. Auditors submitted twenty four fake applications

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Speaker 3: for subsidized health insurance, only one was denied. A new

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Speaker 3: GAO report suggests the Affordable Care Act you know, you

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Speaker 3: really shouldn't even use that phrase without pausing to note

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Speaker 3: the fact that the Affordable Care Act made healthcare a

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Speaker 3: hell of a lot less affordable anyway, The Affordable Care

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Speaker 3: Acts health insurance exchanges are rife with fraud. This is

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Speaker 3: the government itself, let's see. So they were twenty three

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Speaker 3: out of twenty four getting the applications accepted. Stunning GAO

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Speaker 3: report published Wednesday warns that there could be massive fraud

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Speaker 3: in the health insurance exchanges due to lax anti fraud protections,

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Speaker 3: even after a twenty eighteen study called for a more

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Speaker 3: robust program to detect and block fraud fraudulent applications. So

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Speaker 3: they already had a study and they already had, you know,

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Speaker 3: the word went out, Oh my god, we need to

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Speaker 3: do a better job. But it's government. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They don't care.

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Speaker 4: I know somebody's in laws who are really good at

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Speaker 4: working the system. They like they spend time on knowing

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Speaker 4: every government program that's out there and that they could

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Speaker 4: possibly qualify. And it's not in their case. They're not fraudsters,

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Speaker 4: but it's certainly fraud adjacent. It's stretching the spirit of

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Speaker 4: the various laws, if not the letter. And they get

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Speaker 4: all kinds of government money from coming up with various

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Speaker 4: things that they can qualify for with elder care or

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Speaker 4: sick kids or this or that or whatever. Wow, there's

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Speaker 4: lots of programs out there that if you're willing to,

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Speaker 4: you know, be a little loose with your facts, you

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Speaker 4: could easily easily qualify for.

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Speaker 3: So the auditors created for fictional application last year that

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Speaker 3: used fake Social Security numbers and income claims that lacked

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Speaker 3: any verification.

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Speaker 1: All four were approved. In one case, the GAO noted that.

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Speaker 3: The Federal Marketplace said, quote, it confirmed the applicants estimated

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Speaker 3: income based on documentation we submitted. However, we did not

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Speaker 3: submit any documentation to confirm the Income Wow.

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Speaker 1: Next Hour, The British Civil War.

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