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Speaker 1: It looks so pretty. And this news filter, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Filter, it's lighting. I guess I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Portrait mode. We figured out how to do basically portrait

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hi hih, she's been over here getting younger this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Well, we were out last week.

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Speaker 1: We had a lot going on, and actually you were

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Speaker 1: in Alaska, which is so random because we just had

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Speaker 2: Well maybe it just took me fifty years to get there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I went with my client l She

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Speaker 2: So even having an extra set of hands and another

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Speaker 2: so I felt like it was important to be there.

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Speaker 2: But it was also like the travel was crazy. We

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Speaker 2: We were in Home Or Alaska, which means we flew

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Speaker 2: and then the show was the following day, and then

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to see Alaska, but like I saw Alaska,

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Speaker 1: From all driving and stuff.

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Speaker 2: You mean, yes, and well, and you know, I expected

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Speaker 2: it to be sunlight the whole time. The first night

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Speaker 2: very weird. So the day that we were off, a

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Speaker 2: fans had slid into Elle's DMS like years ago, just

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Speaker 2: And then Elle played the state Fair a couple of

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Speaker 2: But the girl reached out when when she knew that

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Speaker 2: Elle was coming this time and said, you know, I

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Speaker 2: And all agreed to it. Oh my gosh, and so

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Speaker 2: It was so much fun. In fact, I'm wearing my

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Speaker 2: and it's got salmon blood on it. I know. Well,

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Speaker 1: Okay, why is that better?

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Speaker 2: It was just like so perfectly tied. It like basically

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Speaker 2: The other thing that they do is I'll just hit

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Speaker 2: we caught forty pounds of fish.

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Speaker 1: Have you considered washing this sweatshirt or is that no?

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Speaker 2: It makes me feel really like Alaskan. I know, I've

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, I mean, I'm sure it made that fans

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean we ended up like best friends with all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that, and it's.

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Speaker 2: That was the thing that I loved the most. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the landscape is unbelievable. It's like you're

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Speaker 2: You know, It's very hippy dippy.

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Speaker 1: And like it's also just so removed from everywhere else. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They're doing their own thing, and every one was so

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Speaker 1: But yeah, wow, well, our little Alaskan adventurer over here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back to Homer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow, just ripe with salmon blood all over.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know how to follow this, Like what

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Speaker 1: I did have a really nice getaway with my man.

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Speaker 1: because it always comes back. And so now when it

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00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 1: happens like all like I looked at the text and

435
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: I was like, what have I not closed out here?

436
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: Like what am I not doing? And for me, I

437
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: decided it was like I haven't blocked him yet, So

438
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: I was still letting my energy be accessible in a

439
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: way that like I didn't feel like was appropriate for

440
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: this situation anymore. It didn't make me feel good, and

441
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: so that was another block. And sometimes I think that's

442
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: what's happening, is like the universe is testing you a

443
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: little bit to be like, Okay, we're gonna put this

444
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: right in front of you. You sure, like you sure

445
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna still make this decision? Are you sure? It's

446
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 1: like almost like a testing lesson, you know what I mean,

447
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: Like did you really learn that lesson? Are you gonna

448
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: like stick to your guns? Are you gonna hold your boundaries?

449
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: Are you gonna still take care of yourself even though

450
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: there's this other thing coming up that's like dangling a

451
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, a carrot right in front of you, whether

452
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: that's an ex a, a narrative or whatever it is

453
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: old friendship, like all of these things are very typical

454
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: to come back during mercury retrograde. But it's not to

455
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: like harm you. It's to ask you to review, like

456
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: did you is there anything else you need from this?

457
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: Or are you really done? Because when you're done, they

458
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: say like things go away, like they don't keep showing

459
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: their face or coming back to you or presenting to

460
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: you if there's closure, full closure, and you've learned a

461
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: lesson and it's time to move on, right. Have you

462
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: ever experienced anything like that?

463
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess there have been breakups that are

464
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: that way, you know, like I can't think of any

465
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 2: other like clear examples.

466
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: But have you noticed any excess coming back during retrogrades ever?

467
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: Or well?

468
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 2: I never really know when retrogrades are. So what is

469
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: what is the date range of this one? Do you know? Oh?

470
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm like, why I'm on?

471
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you're like google, don't? Yeah, well, I mean

472
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: I think for the listeners, maybe I'll google it.

473
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: I think it's over August. I want to say night,

474
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 1: it's over this weekend. We also have a full moon

475
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: this weekend.

476
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: When you say over, does it mean how long does

477
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: it last?

478
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of weeks usually, Okay, So.

479
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm googling. This is the Old Farmer's Almanac answer

480
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: for win is mercury in retrograde this year? And they

481
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: see if I can find you.

482
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 1: Okay, the happens multiple times July.

483
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: Seventeenth through August tenth. So we're in it. We're like

484
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 2: squarely in it. So we've got three more days. Yeah,

485
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if any exes have presented themselves. Yes,

486
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: I mean not an X, but like I don't know

487
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 2: if well, I don't know if we talked about him

488
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: on here. But when I went to Montana, I went

489
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 2: on a date with this guy who was ended up

490
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: being very weird. I got a text from him last

491
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: week maybe that said is it weird that I miss you?

492
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 2: And I just I mean, I literally I've not responded

493
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: to a text from this guy since I got home

494
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: from Montana, And I wanted to be like, yes, it's

495
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: weird that you missed me. You met me one time

496
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: for maybe four you're a weirdo about it. Yeah, so

497
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: that I mean, that's.

498
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Okay, good to write back.

499
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Yes, okay.

500
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: But that's the thing, though, You're being almost baited because

501
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: the question I got it was is it weird that

502
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I still text you? And it's like, yeah, well, when

503
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: I haven't responded the last three times you've texted me,

504
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I would say yeah, yeah, and after I told you

505
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: I didn't want to talk ever again, like yeah, it

506
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: is weird. But I realized I'm like, oh, this is

507
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: very typical when someone's trying to get you to answer,

508
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: you know, and so I was like, not only am

509
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: I not going to answer now, you've violated my boundaries

510
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: too many times and you're getting plucked.

511
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: You're getting planed. Yeah, because I don't need this energy.

512
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: No, I just don't even want it. It makes me

513
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: angry when it comes up because I'm like, you are

514
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: literally walking all over everything I said, and it's so

515
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: disrespectful to me my current relationship, Like I just don't

516
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: want to be treated like that anymore.

517
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: Well, and you're right, like by giving it any sort

518
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: of air, I mean, I guess this could be considered

519
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: talking about it, but like responding to them in any

520
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: way is what they want. Like even if you write

521
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: back something shitty like go fuck yourself, like they want.

522
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: They get off on that kind of engagement period. I

523
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: think it's the hardest lesson, right. It's like when someone's

524
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: treating you bad to not engage at all. But it's

525
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: like when you start to realize certain personality types get

526
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: off on even negative attention, you're like, I can't whatever.

527
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: So hopefully yeah, that none of our people listen to

528
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 1: this podcast.

529
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 2: I mean, well it's funny too, because it's like it's

530
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: so not in my nature just to ignore people. I

531
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 2: don't do it either, and so not responding to him,

532
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I should block him because that haunts me,

533
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: you know, like the fact that I haven't responded, I

534
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: feel like an.

535
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 1: Asshole, and You'll get in your head about it, and.

536
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 2: I'll get in my head and like I really kind

537
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 2: of want to respond. I mean, it's like at the

538
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: point now where I more want to respond out of

539
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: the ridiculousness of Like I mean, it's like there was

540
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: one day he sent me like five songs, like you know,

541
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 2: it was like his version of a mixtape because he

542
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: was thinking of me, Like it's weird, but yeah, I

543
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: mean if that happened within Mercury retrograde.

544
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you're acting as if this is

545
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: what I always have to tell myself because how you were,

546
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: Like I just almost want to respond because of the ridiculousness,

547
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: and like my biggest thing is always to I want

548
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: to explain, Hey, this is fucking ridiculous, or this is yes,

549
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I like what I said, I haven't responded to you

550
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: in these amount of times I said this, like, yes,

551
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: it's weird, but like then that's acting. I can't remember

552
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: what the saying is. It's something like, oh, you can't

553
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: reason with crazy. So it's like I would be sitting

554
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: here trying to convince a person who is clearly trying

555
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: to provoke me in some way, shape or form or

556
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 1: get some sort of response, trying to convince them why

557
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: their behavior is crazy. That's not going to go. Well.

558
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: All that does is just bring me into that.

559
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, they've also answered, like your example, in my example,

560
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 2: they both answered their their rhetorical questions like is it weird, Yeah,

561
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: it's fucking weird.

562
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: If you have to ask if it's weird, it's probably weird.

563
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: One hundre.

564
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: It just feels like an old game, right Like in

565
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: my twenties, I would have been like, oh, they're still

566
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: thinking of me, you know, me and my ego would

567
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: have gotten like a little hit from it or something.

568
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: And now I'm just like, h is that a boundary?

569
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: You're not respecting?

570
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: It a block? Well, for those of you who are wondering,

571
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: it does so. It ends August tenth. It happens three

572
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: times a year, and the third one for twenty five

573
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 2: is November nine through twenty nine, which means it will

574
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: be in retrograde when I turn fifty for real.

575
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that's not necessarily bad though.

576
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's if there's ever a time to

577
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: slow down and reflect, it's yeah, when you're turning half

578
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: a century year old.

579
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 1: It's also kind of the end of the year, so totally. Yeah,

580
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: it's it's really like it's like an inner deep dive,

581
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: and so I think a lot of stuff that might happen.

582
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: And I mean I talked about this a little bit

583
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: with Marv, like I got triggered into something from another

584
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: relationship with my current boyfriend. Not so the other relationship

585
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: wasn't the person that texted me whatever it was, Oh,

586
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: got all these exes coming back, But I got triggered

587
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: to this old situation and I reacted to my current

588
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: boyfriend from that trigger. And I was saying to Marv,

589
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is I can't believe this came up.

590
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: But the more he talked about the astrology of this month,

591
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: I was like, but of course it came up, you know.

592
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: So like that's what the retrogrades are for, is like

593
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: if you notice something in you are trying to pay

594
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: more attention to these things. Like when I was so angry.

595
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: It feels real, right Like in my current relationship, that

596
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: situation felt real. And then when I actually started saying

597
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: stuff out loud, I immediately was like, this has nothing

598
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: to do with him, This isn't about him, this is

599
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: so old. And so then it's a time for me

600
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: to go internal and ask myself why, like what need

601
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: isn't getting met or what got me triggered into that place,

602
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: and then just talking about it with my current partner

603
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: because he's very open like that, but like you know,

604
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: we were able to have a productive conversation. But then

605
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: also like asking myself like what do I need, you know,

606
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: and how do I need to resolve this within myself

607
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: because I clearly haven't fully resolved it or wouldn't be

608
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: coming up now. So it's like that kind of stuff.

609
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily just like murcury retrograde's here to fuck

610
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: with you. It's actually just asking us to kind of

611
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: slow down and be conscious, you know, versus just running

612
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: through life mindlessly.

613
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's like to pay attention to the things

614
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: that are on autopilot normally.

615
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: Made exactly and that's why there's like an ex is

616
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: gonna get pinged to text you, because for both of y'all,

617
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: stuff is probably coming up, and you're doing the old

618
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,479
Speaker 1: thing to alleviate that, right instead of like, hey, I

619
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: used to suck at boundaries. This is me talking about me.

620
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I used to sucking boundaries. I just didn't have them.

621
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: So people from my past feel very comfortable to enter

622
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: into any part of my life, right yeah, And when

623
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: me setting boundaries, they're like, wait, what what is she doing?

624
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: Like this doesn't make sense. Oh, surely I can get

625
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: her to like walk. You know. I used to just

626
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: not be able to hold shit either, even if I

627
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: would say it. So he's just trying that because that's

628
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: what used to work in the past, and I'm like, yo,

629
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: I'm different now, that's not gonna work anymore. But it's

630
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: me having to really like stick with that because the

631
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: tests keep happening and I'm like, wow, oh, it would

632
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: be easy for me to self abandon and just be

633
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: like answer, yes it's weird or whatever like engage, but

634
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: then that's still giving it energy.

635
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: Like we said, yeah, yeah, I haven't gotten to the

636
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 2: block point yet with the person in Montana, but maybe

637
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: I'll do that the next time he responds, it's like.

638
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this was the third or fourth time

639
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: since I've set a boundary, so it was like, okay,

640
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: and I remember saying last time, if he does it again,

641
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: I'm texting. I mean, I'm blocking mine.

642
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: Is just funny because like I literally am a strange

643
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: church of this person, you know what I mean, Like

644
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: at least this was a boyfriend, right, So yeah, that's

645
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: a good example of a retrograde thing happening.

646
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: So it's not a curse, No, it's definitely it's.

647
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: Actually kind of a blessing.

648
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: Well if you work with it. We're circling back to

649
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Speaker 1: the beginning of this conversation and what astrology can help

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Speaker 1: you learn is like, instead of being the person that's

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Speaker 1: the online going, oh, it's mark your retrograde even though

652
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: like like one of my keys hasn't been working randomly,

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Speaker 1: it's like a tech thing and I'm so frustrated about it.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, smirky, retrograde's rocking me. But

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Speaker 1: it is, yeah, but it's making me slow down and

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Speaker 1: I'm having to Like. The interesting thing is is, so

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Speaker 1: remember when we first got on this call, I told

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Speaker 1: you we're switching platforms for and I probably wouldn't have

659
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Speaker 1: made that jump, which I've needed to make if I

660
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Speaker 1: didn't have that thing go wrong with the interview last week.

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Speaker 1: So does that make sense? So it's like it brings

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Speaker 1: something that needs to change to the surface to then

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Speaker 1: invite you to make the changes. And that that was

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Speaker 1: like something I've been saying I need to do for

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Speaker 1: six months at least. It's tedious and time consuming, you know.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm like, Okay, well, I will never want

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Speaker 1: to feel like how I just felt when that didn't

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Speaker 1: when I thought I had lost that interview. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try a new platform and I'll spend time

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Speaker 1: this week in setting that up. So it served its purpose, right.

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Speaker 2: It's funny we actually yesterday our IT department migrated to

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Speaker 2: like a new version of Outlook.

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Speaker 1: Or something like really interesting timing to do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, now that we're having this conversation, I'm like, why, why,

675
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Speaker 2: why was it? Why did we do that? And the

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Speaker 2: funny thing is is like our IT guy, James is amazing,

677
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Speaker 2: and he sent out like very detailed emails and stuff,

678
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Speaker 2: and of I had to print them out because I'm

679
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Speaker 2: a boomer, and I was like, I was like, well,

680
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Speaker 2: what if I can't access my email and then I

681
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: don't know what to do. But like so much of

682
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Speaker 2: it is on us to like it's not like they're

683
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Speaker 2: just like, hey, this is happening in the back end.

684
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Speaker 2: They're like, you have to remove it from your computer.

685
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Speaker 2: You got to remove things from your phone. So it's

686
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Speaker 2: like yesterday during work and they're like, your email should

687
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Speaker 2: work normal, but these are some of the troubleshooting things,

688
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Speaker 2: and yesterday was very wonky for me, and I noticed

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Speaker 2: that there were things that weren't in same you know,

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Speaker 2: it'd be in my calendar on my phone but not

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Speaker 2: on my computer, a vice versa. And I think it's

692
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Speaker 2: all worked itself out, but like during this conversation, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: why the fuck would they have done that?

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Speaker 1: Well, you think your it guys following astrology, probably not,

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Speaker 1: but he should, I mean he should. Yeah. So, like

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Speaker 1: there's even things about like timing up launches and stuff

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Speaker 1: and trying not to do anything big during a retrograde

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't mean like if you've been planning it

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Speaker 1: for a long time and it's already booked to happen,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you should switch it. It's just something

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Speaker 1: to be aware of because if you launch during a retrograde,

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Speaker 1: you may have to circle back to like really, let's

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Speaker 1: say you launch and you're like, here's our mission statement. Well,

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Speaker 1: something may come up in a couple months when Mercury's

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Speaker 1: station direct that makes you have to review that or

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Speaker 1: the next Merkur retrograde, Like you might need to go

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Speaker 1: back and review or relaunch your mission statement or something

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Speaker 1: if you do it during retrograde, is what they say. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always true. I mean it's just like especially if you've

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Speaker 1: been preparing, like I said, for a long time. That's

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Speaker 1: not always the case, but it could happen that way.

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Speaker 1: And then there's like these shadow periods, so like the

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Speaker 1: before and after the actual dates. They say that the

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Speaker 1: energy can still linger a little bit, like it takes

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Speaker 1: a little bit sad.

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Speaker 2: Out it like phases in and out. What's funny because

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Speaker 2: like I'm like going crossside, just like thinking about all

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Speaker 2: the fucking work I have to do it. Like, but

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Speaker 2: that's the whole point is that we should be working

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Speaker 2: for oursel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, like you're like, well, when it comes back around,

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Speaker 2: you might need to readdress and it's I guess you know.

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Speaker 2: Astrology is one of those things that's there if we

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Speaker 2: want it and we're working on ourselves. It's not something

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Speaker 2: that like everyone has to be paying attention to.

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Speaker 1: It's just you don't have you don't have to do

728
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Speaker 1: any of this stuff. It's just how do you want

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Speaker 1: to walk through your life? And like for me, it

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Speaker 1: just makes life left difficult because.

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Speaker 2: I'm like Ye's explanation in.

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Speaker 1: That explanation, and then also, like we're talking about with

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Speaker 1: this marketing retrograde stuff, you learn how to work with

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Speaker 1: different energies. So like if during a retrograde, I'm feeling

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Speaker 1: more tired than normal, I'm not going to push myself

736
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Speaker 1: to go do that Barry's class like I'll like reevaluate

737
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: I might go for a walk instead, or like you know,

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Speaker 1: really try to pay attention to what the energy is doing.

739
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: Like if I'm feeling like that, there's a reason. So

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Speaker 1: learning just the ways that maybe you specifically respond or

741
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: what it can look like in your life, like that's

742
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Speaker 1: just really helpful because I think we just live in

743
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Speaker 1: such a culture of control enforcing and we don't necessarily

744
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: like to pay attention. It's like we want to move

745
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: unconsciously and just everything to be easy, and that's not realistic, right,

746
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: so it's like walk or be dragged kind of.

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Speaker 2: I don't know right right now that it makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have any other mercury retrograde questions? Or

749
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Speaker 1: did I help at all?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think I think it, Like that was

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00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: really insightful, Thank you, And I guess I'll just need

752
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: to like do a little bit more digging to see

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Speaker 2: specifically how it affects me and my sign. But we

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Speaker 2: don't need to go to that with everybody.

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Speaker 1: No, And I think you had asked me like, is

756
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Speaker 1: there a sign and impacts most But really, I mean

757
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: this is helpful. If you guys haven't listened to mar yet,

758
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: maybe to go listen back to what he's saying, because

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Speaker 1: this marcury retrograde is in Leo, so it's going to

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Speaker 1: show its face with Leo energy a lot more and

761
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: then probably Leo's and other fire signs will feel the

762
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: impact of it more like or they could. You also

763
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: brought up you were like, well, I bet that drives

764
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 1: a virgo crazy. It's like, how do you know about Virgo?

765
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Speaker 2: I just know that they're so kind of type.

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Speaker 1: A type A meticulous. Yeah, very much so. So, But

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Speaker 1: it's interesting because Virgo is ruled by mercury, So Virgo

768
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: I mean for mercury going retrograde. Yeah, I'm sure it

769
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: does drive a Virgo crazy because they're like, why is

770
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Speaker 1: my structure not structuring? Like why is my to do

771
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: list not easy to check off? And all that stuff.

772
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Speaker 1: But I don't know that it's necessary. I mean for them,

773
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: it's probably even more important to try to pause and

774
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: like go with the flow, let things go, and not

775
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: be so type A or like perfectionistic. Marv talked a

776
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: lot about that right on the Wednesday podcast. So, but

777
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Speaker 1: it impacts everybody. I mean it's it's going to impact

778
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: because we all have all the energies, we have all

779
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: signs in our chart. It's just you might have more planets.

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00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 2: And does it affect this will be my last question

781
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: and you may not know the answer, but does it

782
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: affect Like if it's happening during Leo, now, does it

783
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: affect them more?

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Speaker 1: So? What really, if you were wanting to work with

785
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Speaker 1: this energy, so you would go take your chart, look

786
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Speaker 1: at where you have Leo in your chart? So whatever

787
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 1: house So like Leo for me is my fourth house.

788
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: That's a lot of family, that's a home. Life. That's

789
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember even the other things, but look up

790
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: what that house is. You can google it and get

791
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: on CHATBT. I always say this to people, unless you

792
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: know a little bit about astrology, be careful with chat

793
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: or any sort of AI resource because it's not always accurate.

794
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: And like, I can call it out when it's not

795
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: accurate because I recognize it. But if I didn't know

796
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: what I know about astrology, I might just blindly take

797
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: that information. And you know, right, So maybe google even

798
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: before you chat, but find out what house it's in,

799
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: and then those are probably the themes that will come

800
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: up for you, like an actuality. Knowing that the argument

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00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: I got in with my boyfriend it was all about

802
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: home and chores and like home life, and that's my

803
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: house that Leo's in, So that's what it's gonna impact.

804
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: So wherever Leo is in your chart, I'm trying to

805
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: think of what yours is Scorpio rising. I would have

806
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: to look, I can't do it in my brain.

807
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: It's I don't know how y'all do any of the shit.

808
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: To be honest, you just learned a time. Yeah. Anyway, Well,

809
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Speaker 1: if you guys want to know more about this, month's astrology.

810
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Speaker 1: You can go listen to Wednesday's podcast with master astrologer

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Speaker 1: Marvin Wilkerson that is up, and then you can always

812
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Speaker 1: hit me and chip up. You can email us at

813
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: the Edge at velvetsedge dot com. I'm on Instagram at

814
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Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge Chip.

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Speaker 2: I'm at chip doors. It's Chip d R scch.

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Speaker 1: Did you just misspell your last name?

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Speaker 2: No, I like this. There was like a weird pause.

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Speaker 2: D R d R d Y now d O R

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Speaker 2: s c H.

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Speaker 1: And also we are launching our Velvet Edge podcast Instagram

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Speaker 1: this month, so make sure to follow along. We're gonna

822
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Speaker 1: have lots of like journal prompts, different clips for you guys,

823
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: and just also resources in general, Like it's going to

824
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: be way more streamlined having that specific podcast. So that's

825
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Speaker 1: at Velvet Edge podcast on Instagram. We'll have that up

826
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Speaker 1: and running asap as soon as the market retrogrades over.

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Speaker 2: In fact, we're launching shit now.

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Speaker 1: I'm not no I know too much, but anyway, as always,

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for listening, listening, and as

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Speaker 1: you walk into this weekend and you're living on the edge,

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Speaker 1: I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: A casual wo