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Speaker 1: Patrick Show howls morale. There's certain fan bases, like in
Speaker 1: Dallas where you're going. I thought we were ready for primetime.
Speaker 1: I thought we were ready for the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: this time around. And then you get this comment from
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. He seemed a little surprised last night.
Speaker 2: Didn't see it coming, as you said, put everything into
Speaker 2: this and got punched in the mouth.
Speaker 1: Called a couple of weeks ago humbling against Arizona, But
Speaker 1: this is maybe the most humbling game I've ever been
Speaker 1: a part of. Should you have seen this coming that
Speaker 1: you're surprised, like, Wow, didn't see that coming? You should
Speaker 1: have at least known what they had offensively and defensively, Hey,
Speaker 1: we knew this could happen instead of Man, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: Rock Purty played well. Everybody did for the most part.
Speaker 1: This is one of those it's not just you know,
Speaker 1: you go into the shallow end and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden it drops off. It was a big wave that
Speaker 1: he and hits you early. By the way, this Sunday night,
Speaker 1: get ready. The Giants take on the Buffalo Bills Sunday
Speaker 1: seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock. How many times will
Speaker 1: Danny Dimes get hit? How many fumbles will he have?
Speaker 1: How many interceptions will he have? Or will he even play?
Speaker 3: Yes, Tod against that angry Bills team that just lost
Speaker 3: in London to the Jaguars.
Speaker 4: You don't want to mess with Josh Allen and Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Now, thank you, Todd.
Speaker 3: Welcome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've lost a couple of defensive starters there, even
Speaker 1: tougher sledding for the Buffalo. Just when you think you
Speaker 1: figured out, okay, that's who the Bills are, they go
Speaker 1: over there and then you go just you know, we
Speaker 1: thought that we had figured out the Jags and then
Speaker 1: the Jags play like that. The NFL is full of that,
Speaker 1: you know, usually like first five games and then after
Speaker 1: ten games and then maybe towards the end of the
Speaker 1: season where you go, okay, still try to figure this
Speaker 1: team out, or they surprise me they're better or worse.
Speaker 1: Detroit might be better than we want to give them
Speaker 1: credit for, but because of their history, it feels like
Speaker 1: we're holding off. We're like, okay, I just did it
Speaker 1: last hour, where we go, well, they beat the Panthers Detroit,
Speaker 1: there's nothing flukey. They've won by fourteen, fourteen, and eighteen.
Speaker 1: The last three weeks. Defense has been really good. They
Speaker 1: are very good against the run, and Jared Goff has
Speaker 1: played well. Maybe dot dot Dot MVP candidate Baltimore blew
Speaker 1: a great chance of beating all three divisional foes on
Speaker 1: the road, and they would have done this in the
Speaker 1: first five weeks. The receivers dropped a few passes there,
Speaker 1: and just when we were ready to go, okay, new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and you know, we're seeing something different with
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. They didn't look good at all. But the Ravens,
Speaker 1: as Peter King said, must have vomited through the first
Speaker 1: fifty minutes to battle back against the Steelers seventeen to ten.
Speaker 1: They lose. They've lost six of the last seven in
Speaker 1: this series by four, five, one, three, two and seven.
Speaker 1: Stat of the day, stat of the day, that past
Speaker 1: stat of the day, stat of the.
Speaker 4: Day here comes that what stat.
Speaker 1: Of the day. Also, the Lions have lost a total
Speaker 1: of three games in the last eleven months, so they
Speaker 1: are for real. I think think we're waiting for them
Speaker 1: to have a big moment, big game. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: overtime loss away from being undefeated. But it feels like
Speaker 1: we're holding off on them. Are we holding off on
Speaker 1: any other team because we are with the Lions because
Speaker 1: they're the Lions. But they've been they've been moving quickly.
Speaker 1: They've been moving right at us. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: high speed glacier here. It's gonna hit you and they're
Speaker 1: gonna beat you. I don't know if Tampa's any good.
Speaker 1: They're three and one. I have no idea.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, now, I don't count. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 4: the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: We gotta see and by the way, Detroit at Tampa
Speaker 1: coming up next week. I'm telling Marvin, what'd you say?
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You're not sure who they are.
Speaker 4: I think they're away and see team.
Speaker 5: Also only like the Lions, because they haven't been great
Speaker 5: in recent history. We got to see, like this offense
Speaker 5: is great now. But let's see when it gets a
Speaker 5: little deep into the regular season, into the playoffs, Let's
Speaker 5: see what they do well.
Speaker 1: They weren't good last week, but then they were good
Speaker 1: this week. You're just not quite sure. But you know
Speaker 1: this on the road, is it a trap game? You
Speaker 1: know the matchups that you have, you know, all of
Speaker 1: these things where you're just going this system, this scheme,
Speaker 1: this team, this offense, this defense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is funny how all records aren't created equal.
Speaker 6: You know, like a four and one Lions, I don't
Speaker 6: really know what the four and one Chiefs is.
Speaker 1: Like, hell yeah, yeah, man, they're right on course.
Speaker 7: Right would you take the Bengals at two and three
Speaker 7: or Tampa at three and one?
Speaker 1: I take the Bengals, right, Yes, I would. The Patriots
Speaker 1: lost to the Saints. It was the worst shutout loss
Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick's career, the worst home loss of his career,
Speaker 1: and this coming off the worst loss of his coaching career,
Speaker 1: losing to the Cowboys thirty eight to three. Hadn't been
Speaker 1: a good couple of weeks here for coach Belichick. But uh,
Speaker 1: he was not too interested in talking to the media,
Speaker 1: as you even when they win, he's not too interested.
Speaker 1: But he was asked about his quarterbacking situation.
Speaker 5: No, Well went into the decision to sit down Mac
Speaker 5: dreing the the understands the game.
Speaker 4: Does he stay your quarterback going forward?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of problems that certainly wasn't wasn't
Speaker 1: on him. Here's Mac Jones on being benched by coach Belichick.
Speaker 3: Mac, with the results being what they are and you
Speaker 3: finished two straight weeks ending the game on the bench,
Speaker 3: do you start to feel like you're playing to keep
Speaker 3: your job.
Speaker 8: Like I said earlier, just trying to trying to do
Speaker 8: better as an offense. You know, he didn't score any points,
Speaker 8: so that's the important part, scoring points and executing your job.
Speaker 8: And I try to just execute my job.
Speaker 1: When when you don't score any points, you obviously can
Speaker 1: do better. Wow, yeah you have. You couldn't score less
Speaker 1: than you did against the Saints, right, hoping.
Speaker 4: To get better?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like score man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does feel like America is enjoying this. You
Speaker 7: hear people if you take yourself out of New England
Speaker 7: and the twenty years of the run that the Patriots
Speaker 7: had of relevancy of you know, basically giving the middle
Speaker 7: finger of the rest of the league.
Speaker 1: Well, America enjoying the Patriots getting blown out or the
Speaker 1: Cowboys getting blown out.
Speaker 7: I'll bet you it's the Patriots because we've seen the
Speaker 7: Cowboys struggle for on and off for thirty years. I
Speaker 7: almost want the Cowboys to win something, but.
Speaker 1: They're close though. Patriots aren't threatening at all.
Speaker 7: I bet if you did a poll, I think America
Speaker 7: really is enjoying the Patriots and Bill Belichick's suffering, not
Speaker 7: just being irrelevant, but.
Speaker 1: They haven't done anything the last couple of years. Now,
Speaker 1: these are embarrassing. These are historically bad losses for Bill.
Speaker 7: They never stunk before in our life, in our you know,
Speaker 7: twenty years, they haven't never stunk.
Speaker 1: But do you think you know the National fan who
Speaker 1: maybe he is not a Cowboy fan or a Patriot fan?
Speaker 1: Are they which one? Are they reveling in more Dallas,
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be on par in the NFC is
Speaker 1: one of the top three or four teams, or New
Speaker 1: England and they're not any good. Yes, Tom, I think.
Speaker 3: They're enjoying the Patriots just because of the recent domination
Speaker 3: in all the Super Bowls. The Cowboys haven't really done
Speaker 3: anything like thirty years, so recency biased. That's the team
Speaker 3: that was just beating everybody up. I also wonder if
Speaker 3: Tom Brady is enjoying what's going on with the Patriots
Speaker 3: or is not that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: It certainly elevates his status as if that could be,
Speaker 1: you know, possible, because now it's oh, it's definitely it
Speaker 1: was Brady. You know, Bill had the system, but you
Speaker 1: know Brady had the culture. Like people wanted to play
Speaker 1: for Tom Brady. They have to overpay to get them
Speaker 1: to go and play in New England. Now, that to
Speaker 1: me is a bigger issue. Can you even fix this?
Speaker 1: Free agents? I okay, what are you gonna pay me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not enough because there's no joy there. Even when
Speaker 1: they won, there was no joy, Like the joy was
Speaker 1: like those fifteen minutes after you won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: be like as a great coach. And then you know,
Speaker 1: probably fifteen minutes later, you know, he's diagramming things or
Speaker 1: looking at what the schedule could be, or cutting somebody
Speaker 1: you know who knows how much joy he has in
Speaker 1: all of this. Let me get some phone calls in here.
Speaker 1: Todd always says, don't take any phone calls as people
Speaker 1: just say mean things about they do. It'll be uh
Speaker 1: packers at the Raiders. Raiders a slight favorite. Bill Cower
Speaker 1: will join us coming up here in a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let me go to Troy in Kansas. Hey, Troy, Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing dad?
Speaker 9: Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I was wondering.
Speaker 10: If Belichick got tired, would he be a candidate for crap.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, Troy. You know we're happy with our
Speaker 1: coach at Crappensburg State right now.
Speaker 4: Well, you got to bring him in for an interview
Speaker 4: if he's available talking.
Speaker 1: No, No, can't do that. That interest Yeah, Crappensburg State.
Speaker 1: We're headed towards selling two thousand t shirts of Crappensburg State.
Speaker 1: We have some bumper stickers coming out too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a couple of new shirts coming, some
Speaker 6: bumper stickers, hearing, maybe some coffee mugs. It's a full line.
Speaker 6: It's the full collegiate experience. What is uh when you
Speaker 6: walk into the school bookstore.
Speaker 1: Somebody did suggest to me do we have nil money
Speaker 1: for our athletes at Crappensburg State. Oh? Interesting, Yeah. Charman
Speaker 1: is obviously a big donor to Crappensburg State, and well
Speaker 1: it's a Charman field at Crappensburg Stadium. So Josh in Indianapolis, Hi, Josh,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: What a DP?
Speaker 12: Hi?
Speaker 1: Josh?
Speaker 11: First time, long time? Five nine soft? What's the wee GT?
Speaker 12: For me?
Speaker 11: Was my Longhorns defense and the defensive coordinator. If you
Speaker 11: want to be a national playoff team, you can't do that.
Speaker 11: Best of the weekend was this morning. Actually, I'm a teacher.
Speaker 11: On fall break, I told my wife I was going
Speaker 11: to call in and get my best and worst before
Speaker 11: she leaves for work. She says, tell Dan, I said, hi,
Speaker 11: and suck it back row. So shout out Tanna in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: And hello to your wife, so I could back row. Uh.
Speaker 1: Luke in North Carolina, Good morning, Luke, Hey Dan, how
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 9: I got I got a just a worst of the weekend,
Speaker 9: But before that, I just wanted to say, went to
Speaker 9: a Crappensburg State baseball game last weekend and it was
Speaker 9: a pretty touching ceremony. They inducted Bartolo Cologne into the
Speaker 9: Bowl of Honor.
Speaker 1: Well done, well done, Luke. Luke got the assignment, Well done.
Speaker 1: What else do you have there, Luke?
Speaker 9: Yeah, my worstest of the weekend was this is not
Speaker 9: the first time Mario crystal Ball has done this.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 9: He did it in twenty eighteen with Oregon against Stanford.
Speaker 9: Granted then it wasn't mathematically over. They could have knelt
Speaker 9: and punted and there'd be like fifteen seconds left with
Speaker 9: a whole field, but they ran, fumbled and then lost
Speaker 9: in overtime. So that's the worst second time, worst happens
Speaker 9: to Mario Crystaball.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Luke, Nick and Cincinnati, Hi Neck, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind?
Speaker 12: Hey Bud?
Speaker 13: Heat five eleven and three quarters hard one thirty? I
Speaker 13: got a best at Invester. First off, Joey B looking
Speaker 13: like Joey B got us excited here in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 13: the Bester Foster Moreau saw him get in the end
Speaker 13: zone last year. Diagnosed with Hodson's and trema, yep, I'm
Speaker 13: sure we've all been affected by that horrible disease one
Speaker 13: way or the other. My mom fought it and beat it,
Speaker 13: so yeah, it was nice to see him get in
Speaker 13: the engine.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you Nick, Tim and Saint Petersburg.
Speaker 1: Hey Tim, adp Hi, bun.
Speaker 12: Hey, gentlemen, fretzy, first time, long time five. So down
Speaker 12: at Crappensburg State, they're considering running the tush Push this weekend,
Speaker 12: but they came up with alternate play names for it.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go rapid fire here, so please hold your
Speaker 12: applause or booze. So we've got the line to gain strain,
Speaker 12: the crapper slapper, the glute scoot, the hide ride, the
Speaker 12: button rut, the trench clench, the booty scooty, the posterior plunge,
Speaker 12: the bum scrum, and the colon roll in.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, nicely dark all right. The glut
Speaker 1: scoot glute scoot was a favorite of it, and that
Speaker 1: really stood out.
Speaker 4: What's the poll.
Speaker 1: Question we're going to go with in the final unco
Speaker 1: glut scoot wonderful.
Speaker 6: We're gonna go with two dan oh in the final hours, okay,
Speaker 6: We're going with who do you like seeing Loise Moore?
Speaker 1: The Patriots are the Cowboys?
Speaker 6: Okay, And we're also going with how much are you
Speaker 6: enjoying the Patriots struggles A little, a.
Speaker 1: Lot, having the time of my life. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: probably in the minority with that. I didn't expect anything
Speaker 1: out of the Patriots tough division this year. I mean
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers, we thought and I thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna be if at best, you know, like an eight
Speaker 1: win seven wins at best, They're just they're boring, non threatening.
Speaker 1: Their two best defenders are injured.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Paul, the Patriots, Brady Belichick, all of them together.
Speaker 7: Remember when you're in high school or for most of us,
Speaker 7: you know, if you were like a kind of a
Speaker 7: normal guy in high school and there was a quarterback
Speaker 7: who got the cheerleader and he was a star and
Speaker 7: he's a prom king. Yeah, and then you see him
Speaker 7: twenty years later at the reunion. You're doing well and
Speaker 7: he's losing his hair and he's chubby, and you're in
Speaker 7: your head, you're like, ah, payback to This is payback
Speaker 7: time for the Patriots. Now Brady's not around to catch
Speaker 7: the heat. If they stunk with Brady, it would be
Speaker 7: a celebration in and out of our country.
Speaker 1: Mm, you mean the world celeb The world would celebrate
Speaker 1: team team Gazelle. I'm team Tom Giselle. Seeps seems to
Speaker 1: be getting closer and closer to that judo instructor I'm
Speaker 1: just saying yeah, and he's he's, he's been in the mix.
Speaker 4: There kicking it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm gonna give you a bloop on
Speaker 1: that one. All right, We'll talk to Bill kwer Hill
Speaker 1: join us. More phone calls coming up as well. We'll
Speaker 1: take a break. We're back after this. In the Dan
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Speaker 1: you update the poll results? Then we'll get to the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame coach Bill Kauer.
Speaker 6: I sure will, Dan, Okay, right now, we've got a
Speaker 6: bunch of poll questions working actually as a matter of fact,
Speaker 6: But if we go with the new ones, how much
Speaker 6: are you enjoying the Patriots struggles A little, a ton
Speaker 6: having the time of my life right now?
Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent having the time of my life.
Speaker 6: That is a that's a tough result right there. And
Speaker 6: then who do you like seeing lose more? The Patriots
Speaker 6: or the Cowboys? This one's a little more balanced. It's
Speaker 6: fifty seven percent Cowboys, very negative.
Speaker 1: Two pole quests. You can catch coach Kawer the rest
Speaker 1: of the NFL Today crew Sunday's at Dune Eastern on
Speaker 1: CBS and Paramount Good to see again, coach. Let me
Speaker 1: let me start with this. Do you enjoy seeing the
Speaker 1: Patriots lose more or the Cowboys?
Speaker 2: I see the theme of a Monday morning. There are
Speaker 2: some great wins. Yes, let's not talk about let's go
Speaker 2: right into misery Monday.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, do you care?
Speaker 2: No? You know, in a weird way, Dan, I've kind
Speaker 2: of been there. I think when I look at the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: you know it was San Francisco is a very good team,
Speaker 2: and they couldn't get untracked early, got behind early, and
Speaker 2: you become one dimensional against that defense. It it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a long night. And I think that there's they
Speaker 2: can get things worked out. I look at New England.
Speaker 2: To be quite honest with you, I don't know where
Speaker 2: you go for answers, to be quite frank, I mean,
Speaker 2: you look at the offensive side of the ball. Name
Speaker 2: me a playmaker. The quarterback is struggling, offensive line is
Speaker 2: not creating any running holes. Defensively. You just lost your
Speaker 2: two best players in Gonzales and Judon. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's a big, big challenge right now for Bill. You're
Speaker 2: coming off two very, very tough lives. Is you know,
Speaker 2: to be critical of your team right now you could
Speaker 2: lose them. There's a very fragile confidence I think in
Speaker 2: that building, probably a place where Bill has not been before.
Speaker 2: But you know, so it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 2: that unfolds.
Speaker 1: Can you watch a game as a fan or do
Speaker 1: you have to watch it through the lens of being
Speaker 1: a former coach.
Speaker 2: I always looked at as a former coach, and I
Speaker 2: get mind blown today by some of these decisions in
Speaker 2: terms of analytics. I mean, I watched yesterday. John Harball
Speaker 2: is a good friend of mine, a good coach, in
Speaker 2: a game where you know points are going to be
Speaker 2: minimal in the very first quarter, has got a chance
Speaker 2: to go up thirteen nothing. Instead it goes forward on
Speaker 2: fourth and one and those three points. We're looking at
Speaker 2: him the rest of the day, and so I see
Speaker 2: it all the time. I mean, what's wrong with taking points?
Speaker 2: You work too hard to get down there. And I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about analytics because they tell you
Speaker 2: about your odds. They don't tell you about what happens
Speaker 2: if you don't make it. We share those things and
Speaker 2: you're steering you in the face the rest of the game.
Speaker 2: So I watch it really as a coach, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, and I look at at it and
Speaker 2: just seeing the end game tweaks that every coach has
Speaker 2: to make and willing to make, And how do you
Speaker 2: slow down to Miami offense that you know that looks
Speaker 2: like they're playing faster than everybody else. We watched a
Speaker 2: little of that blueprint with Buffalo, and then you feel
Speaker 2: for Buffalo. They come up one of the biggest wins
Speaker 2: of the year and they go over there and lose
Speaker 2: maybe their best defensive player in Milano. They just lost
Speaker 2: for Davius White. Sean McDermott will figure this out, but
Speaker 2: that's a big blow for Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: How often would you send a play in and the
Speaker 1: quarterback would change it even though you didn't want, They
Speaker 1: would defy you. How often do you think that happened
Speaker 1: in your career?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't I didn't call the plays,
Speaker 2: but I know when I would go to the coordinator
Speaker 2: to call the plays. I think sometimes I realized the
Speaker 2: back thing the what I got, and I realized it
Speaker 2: was actually it was a maneuver. They said they couldn't hear.
Speaker 2: It's like they would say their helmet was out. They're
Speaker 2: tapping their ears and I'm going like, oh, okay, is
Speaker 2: that true or not? Are you hearing me or is
Speaker 2: it selective hearing? So you know, sometimes you know. But
Speaker 2: a lot of the plays we had, you give options
Speaker 2: to the quarterback, and I think the biggest thing you
Speaker 2: do to me, Dan, is the quarterback earns the right
Speaker 2: to have more input, right, So I think they earn
Speaker 2: your trust and then they get learn to trust you.
Speaker 2: So I think when you go into game plans, you're
Speaker 2: going against certain things. You can flip a running play
Speaker 2: from one side to another based on what you're seeing
Speaker 2: the front being. You can also see a front that
Speaker 2: takes you out of a running play to a passing play.
Speaker 2: So those things are always going to be there as
Speaker 2: part of what you give a quarterback in terms of
Speaker 2: game plan. But then sometimes a quarterback thinks he knows
Speaker 2: more and then he just hits his helmet.
Speaker 1: I got this Roethlisberger would do that.
Speaker 2: Yes, I found out after the fact because I kept thinking, man,
Speaker 2: we're having proms for our communication. They're going coach, there's
Speaker 2: no problem. I can hear everything in his helmet. I go, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: let me look at the second alternative here, mag was
Speaker 2: selective hearing.
Speaker 1: I wonder if with a quarterback of Ben's size, would
Speaker 1: you be using that the brotherly shove that Philadelphia is using.
Speaker 2: Well, he'd have to feel he have to feel comfortable
Speaker 2: doing it, right. I mean, I think it's so funny
Speaker 2: when you watch and you think about a quarterback sneak.
Speaker 2: We think about Tom Brady, who did it so well
Speaker 2: for so many years. He takes it and he goes
Speaker 2: down low and it kind of hits his head down,
Speaker 2: and you watch Jalen. He's got this, you know, I
Speaker 2: number one. I don't know if any singers can get
Speaker 2: as low as Kelsey. Kelsey's already a small guy and
Speaker 2: he gets low, really low, and it's almost like Jalen's
Speaker 2: just riding the wave. It's like he's right on top
Speaker 2: of it. You don't see him go down. He's riding
Speaker 2: the wave of the back. So it's interesting to see
Speaker 2: the techniques involved. I don't like to play personally, I
Speaker 2: think it's a rugby play, it's a scrum. I think
Speaker 2: it's as bad for football as nothing strategical about it.
Speaker 2: But until we find ways of losing, of stopping it,
Speaker 2: until we find ways of people not getting hurt into
Speaker 2: the Giants triede of the Year a week ago and
Speaker 2: two guys got hurt. So I think until it becomes
Speaker 2: a safety issue, you know where they're gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2: I don't like to play personally, I just don't, you know,
Speaker 2: but you have to stop it. It's been very, very effective.
Speaker 1: Talking to Bill Kellner the Hall of Famer NFL today
Speaker 1: on CBS, analyst Dion said, why don't we have sort
Speaker 1: of a penthouse with the Hall of Fame? And I propose,
Speaker 1: if you have first ballot Hall of Fame, then can
Speaker 1: you do a special floor for the first ballot Hall
Speaker 1: of famers? You know, Joe Montana, whoever it might be. Dion,
Speaker 1: do you have any problem with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, I guess I look at it from
Speaker 2: the standpoint of, you know, I think when you go
Speaker 2: to that launch and I've gone now for you know,
Speaker 2: for two straight years, you're sitting there and I met
Speaker 2: this past year, I met Dick Buckets for the first
Speaker 2: time on lifetime, idle. I think we all recognize who
Speaker 2: there was some quality players and coaches in there that
Speaker 2: you know, what they did was probably more than what
Speaker 2: you did. But yet I think what you did was
Speaker 2: warrant of contribution of being recognized as one of the
Speaker 2: best at what you did. You know, to sit there
Speaker 2: and who's to measure what that criteria is to put
Speaker 2: you into that other element of it? So I understand it.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't go win as a first ballot.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's circumstances that the don't put you in there
Speaker 2: for the first balluot. I wasn't, you know, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of media involved with it. I wasn't
Speaker 2: one of the most cordial guys at press conferences at times,
Speaker 2: you know. And so at the same time, I feel
Speaker 2: very proud of the record that I had, and I
Speaker 2: will match it with you know a lot of the
Speaker 2: people that are in there. So you know, and listen,
Speaker 2: we all recognize Dion Sanders first bout. I think we
Speaker 2: all know the first bout and you all know the
Speaker 2: players that are in there. But I think once you
Speaker 2: get in there, to sit there and say there's a
Speaker 2: first class and second class I think will be a
Speaker 2: disservice to the honor.
Speaker 1: But in there a seating chart though somewhere coach that
Speaker 1: might get you know, the Hall of Fame events do
Speaker 1: they have, you know, Montana's upfront and LT's up front.
Speaker 2: Well, I think I do it more by whoever can
Speaker 2: walk better. A lot of times you go to Dan,
Speaker 2: there's a lot if you can stand, you're in the back.
Speaker 2: If you just didn't go in the front. So it's
Speaker 2: more by by your health the status than anything else.
Speaker 1: How does every team pass on brock perty seven times?
Speaker 1: But he's going to be and should be an MVP
Speaker 1: candidate this.
Speaker 2: Year, no question about it. And I wrote about it
Speaker 2: a year ago and we came in and so I
Speaker 2: ran it because it had me thinking about Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Right sixth round, this guy's seventh round. And you walk
Speaker 2: into a team and you sit behind the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2: It takes a starting quarterback to get hurt to get
Speaker 2: your chance, just like it took you know, you sit
Speaker 2: there and Brady Brady comes in and Bletso gets hurt,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, you know, here comes
Speaker 2: Jimmy g and all of sudden, Perry comes in, and
Speaker 2: you know, he walked into a great situation and I
Speaker 2: think he just fits the system perfectly. He walked into
Speaker 2: a very good defense. He walked to a Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 2: offense as very quarterback friendly. He's a very, very very
Speaker 2: good at processing information. That's the thing I would take
Speaker 2: away from Kyle's offense. Yes, it's run oriented, it's a
Speaker 2: lot of motion and probably a lot of dialogue goes
Speaker 2: on a lot of moving pieces, So you have to
Speaker 2: be able to process a lot of information very quickly.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the one thing you hear people
Speaker 2: constantly talk about with Rock Party, his ability to go
Speaker 2: from one read to two to three. He sees the field,
Speaker 2: he can process things, and if there was ever a
Speaker 2: better offense to walk into, it's probably the Kyle Shanahan offense.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's always interesting when you see the free agents,
Speaker 2: the seventh round picks, the sixth round picks. You know,
Speaker 2: there's certain elements that you can't measure going to the
Speaker 2: next level, and Rock Party is certainly surpassed. You know
Speaker 2: a lot of the people what they thought they saw
Speaker 2: and didn't thought his limitations were they no longer are.
Speaker 1: Is there a game that you just can't get out
Speaker 1: of your head leakship at night.
Speaker 2: Probably the two thousand and one AFC Championship game against
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. You know, we knocked Brady out,
Speaker 2: We brought blood so in. We gave up a punt
Speaker 2: return for a touchdown because all of a sudden, we
Speaker 2: kicked the ball from the left hash from our own
Speaker 2: five yard line. We had a guy run out of bounds,
Speaker 2: Troy Edwards. They replayed it, pushed us back. They put
Speaker 2: the ball in the right hash. Punter Josh Miller kind
Speaker 2: of didn't know what we're supposed to do. Am I
Speaker 2: supposed to kick it back into the boundary, So I
Speaker 2: go to the other boundary. I didn't know what he
Speaker 2: was talking about. I didn't even realize they'd moved the hash.
Speaker 2: He kicked it right down in the middle of Dion
Speaker 2: Branch just took it right back for a touchdown. We
Speaker 2: go to kick a field goal, he gets blocked for
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Out. We outs had more almost one hundred
Speaker 2: yards more than they did, but yet we lost the game.
Speaker 2: And that was a very very good team in two
Speaker 2: thousand and one. So I look at those championship games,
Speaker 2: and I think I think about those, you know, some
Speaker 2: of the nine ninety six Super Bowl against the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: So I think about more of the games that ended
Speaker 2: my season, not the games during the season, than anything else.
Speaker 2: And I'll probably remember the losses more and I remember
Speaker 2: the wins.
Speaker 1: Could you out smart Brady?
Speaker 2: Can you ask smart Brady?
Speaker 12: No?
Speaker 2: You gonna be patient against Brady, and you got to
Speaker 2: just try to just if you can, try to create
Speaker 2: some degree of hesitation into what he thinks you're doing,
Speaker 2: almost like in a weird way, like Peyton was. Peyton
Speaker 2: and Tom were so cerebral that you had to play
Speaker 2: a little bit of a chess game with them, and
Speaker 2: then you got to take advantage of the opportunities if
Speaker 2: he ever gave them to you. But if Tom Brady
Speaker 2: or Peyton Manning, if you showed them what you were
Speaker 2: doing from a defensive standpoint, they knew exactly where to
Speaker 2: go with the ball, and they were patient ough to
Speaker 2: take what you gave them. So it's almost like who
Speaker 2: could be more patient? Somehow come up with a third
Speaker 2: down stop, don't give them the big play. But you
Speaker 2: bear to be disguised in what you're doing, because if
Speaker 2: you give them pre snap information, they're going to beat
Speaker 2: you and just tear you up.
Speaker 1: Is would you rather face that quarterback or the guy
Speaker 1: who athletically is going to extend plays drive you, whoever
Speaker 1: that might be. But that guy that you just you
Speaker 1: won't have the athleticism to counter, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: I Mahomes is that guy now, right. Mahomes is the
Speaker 2: ultimate guy who can step up and talk about manipulating
Speaker 2: a pocket and having pocket presence. He loves staying in
Speaker 2: the pocket. And you're gonna get off off schedule plays.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get his improvisation that he's gonna have at times.
Speaker 2: Those are probably a little bit tougher to go against,
Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you, because you know those
Speaker 2: you can't control. At least the other things are controllable.
Speaker 2: I can control what I show, what I play. I
Speaker 2: can control my disguised part of it. I can be
Speaker 2: patient and make the play and make the tackle. But
Speaker 2: these plays that get extended for six seven seconds. Remember
Speaker 2: going against Michael Vick, that's the closest guy I can
Speaker 2: kind of relate to. Michael Vick is all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you can't rush as like you used to always rush
Speaker 2: because you have to make sure that you are very
Speaker 2: disciplined in your rush lanes. And to tell our rusher
Speaker 2: to be disciplined is kind of going against It's almost
Speaker 2: like an adverse, like, oh, be discipline, but you wanted
Speaker 2: to rush your quarterback Like that's that's a culture. You know.
Speaker 2: It's a contra dictionary statement, I know, but it kind
Speaker 2: of you need to be that way. So you know,
Speaker 2: you want Patrick Mahomes to stay in the pocket and
Speaker 2: beat you, and he can do that, but I'm not
Speaker 2: sure I'm staying in the pocket and beat me. Then
Speaker 2: get out of the pocket and then throw the ball
Speaker 2: down the field. And then you have the offenses right
Speaker 2: now that today is the biggest challenge you would have
Speaker 2: is at Miami offense. The motions, the San Francisco motions,
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel, Kyle Shanahan, he came from the same system.
Speaker 2: They like to give you a lot of window dressing,
Speaker 2: a lot of movement to get you to kind of
Speaker 2: take your eyes off where they need to be. And
Speaker 2: they play very fast, and so there's a lot of
Speaker 2: speed down in Miami. That's a big challenge. And again,
Speaker 2: patience has to be a part of that solution and
Speaker 2: try and at least slow them down.
Speaker 1: I watched that Steeler Ravens game. Now, granted it's the
Speaker 1: best rivalry in football, but that's bad football. And I
Speaker 1: keep waiting for the Steeler, that Steeler offense. Uh, where
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 2: Coach, It's a work in progress, Dan.
Speaker 1: Boy, it's a worker. You're being politically correct there.
Speaker 2: No, but but you know what, and you just keep
Speaker 2: fueling the fire by everyone's sitting there writing for Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin to fire Matt Canada to sit there and say
Speaker 2: you can't do this and can't do that. Yes, it's
Speaker 2: going to have to be more productive. Yes, they're going
Speaker 2: to have to start taking more shots down the field.
Speaker 2: And they're going to have to if they get Deontay
Speaker 2: Johnson back, maybe you get a guy who had a
Speaker 2: little bit of run after catch. But they're playing defense
Speaker 2: for defense right now. Maybe the best bookend rushers you
Speaker 2: got right now in high Smith and TJ. Watt. They're
Speaker 2: not giving up the big plays. And right now Canny
Speaker 2: Pickett is not turning it over. He's got like two
Speaker 2: interceptions in the last four games. You know, the block
Speaker 2: punt yesterday. I know they kind of gave it back,
Speaker 2: and to be quite frank, Baltimore did not play very well.
Speaker 2: We had six drops, they missed the wide open receiver
Speaker 2: who falls on the turf at fines Field. So you
Speaker 2: know it's a Heinz field. The ghosts of Heinz Field
Speaker 2: came out yesterday for the Baltimore Ravens. But you know,
Speaker 2: I look at I still like the Baltimore Ravens, and
Speaker 2: I mean I think that I think Todd Monkin, I
Speaker 2: think Lamar in that system when it's more spread out
Speaker 2: in the weapons that he has, is at some point
Speaker 2: going to get more and more comfortable. You see signs
Speaker 2: of it. Yesterday was not one of them. And I
Speaker 2: think from Pittsburgh standpoint, it is a long year. It's
Speaker 2: a work in progress because clearly the offense is going
Speaker 2: to have to be more productive than it has been
Speaker 2: right now. And I think getting back to their running
Speaker 2: game is a little bit of that answer. And I
Speaker 2: would not just be with Naja Harris and Naja Harris
Speaker 2: Jalen Warren combination. Jalen Warren came in and really gave
Speaker 2: that team a spark when he came in. He made
Speaker 2: a couple of big plays on third down, a couple
Speaker 2: of big runs. He gives them a little bit that splash,
Speaker 2: a little bit of that this that you want to
Speaker 2: see on that offense because you feel like they're just
Speaker 2: plodding down. They're plodding on down there. You know, there's
Speaker 2: that twelve thirteen play drive. You cannot live on that.
Speaker 2: So they needed Deontay Johnsons, they needed Jed and Warren.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get to get the George Pickens maybe one
Speaker 2: on one, he'll make the big catch down there, but
Speaker 2: he's not gonna get the great separation. So I think
Speaker 2: that's still there. And the biggest thing they're doing is
Speaker 2: they're winning while keeping you know, winning games ugly and that,
Speaker 2: and that's always gonna be a case with the Baltimore
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh game.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you were in a fight A.
Speaker 2: Fight, well verbally or or I mean I'm fighting with
Speaker 2: with with Boomer and film.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, that I mean like a physical.
Speaker 2: A physical fight. It's well, I would say college, No
Speaker 2: I actually had the fight. Wasn't the pros to I
Speaker 2: was just there was a practice one time. It's actually
Speaker 2: the same day the first time my late wife I
Speaker 2: hold at lunch and I found out she lost our baby,
Speaker 2: and and I never forget. We went to nine on seven.
Speaker 2: I was with the pads on and I just was
Speaker 2: so mad, and so I just start crying and I
Speaker 2: just start hitting everything, and they're saying, what the relaxed? Relax?
Speaker 2: I don't you know? I just I got in a fight.
Speaker 1: But did you eventually tell your teammates and coach what happened?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: I'm usually pretty good at control my emotions, to be
Speaker 2: quite honest with.
Speaker 1: You, except for the time when you ran off after
Speaker 1: the first half. Weren't you didn't you had a word
Speaker 1: for an official?
Speaker 2: Well, I like those were controlled emotions.
Speaker 4: I could have done it.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. You should be commend.
Speaker 2: Well, I I was not controlled.
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, we just didn't. We just didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yes, hey, great catch up with you as always.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, coach.
Speaker 2: Man, always a pleasure. You're the best. I still got
Speaker 2: your jacket. You know you're getting one of those jackets
Speaker 2: that came came to the Super Bowl to one year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I still have I pulled. I go, here's my
Speaker 2: black Dan Patrick jacket.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm giving you prompt as I walk around you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, coaching, thank you, thank you. That's coach coach Kauer,
Speaker 1: who knew that he was showing, you know, restraint. There
Speaker 1: he looks like a guy you wouldn't want to mask with. Yes, time,
Speaker 1: that's restraints.
Speaker 3: Stuffing like pictures into the pants of a referee.
Speaker 1: As you read, it's good stuff, Yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Let me take a break. Last call for phone calls.
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Speaker 1: Bears Hall of Fame linebacker Brian Urlocker will join us
Speaker 1: in the man Cave tomorrow. Last call for phone calls.
Speaker 1: What we learned, what's in store tomorrow? What's the headline
Speaker 1: going to be tomorrow? Todd, I'll start with you create
Speaker 1: tomorrow's headline.
Speaker 3: Today, I'm gonna go with DeVante's Inferno receiver goes off
Speaker 3: on former team.
Speaker 1: All right, I like that, Uh, Seaton, you have a
Speaker 1: headline off tonight's Packers Raiders gave.
Speaker 6: Me something about like seven card stud hearts wild as
Speaker 6: Love goes off?
Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, good, all right.
Speaker 4: I got the Raiders winning. The headline is going to
Speaker 4: be it's nothing but a g thing.
Speaker 7: Okay, Paul I had I had a terrible Jordan love
Speaker 7: play on words, So I'm gonna doubt that one.
Speaker 1: Uh let's see, all.
Speaker 7: Right, Bat to the future Packers, No, because he's he's
Speaker 7: out for I was adjusting out for the season.
Speaker 1: I was gonna do what's love got to do with it? Everything? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The secondhand emotion shout out to the late team, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 4: No dice for the Packers.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we did the dice Clay one time.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it, that's it. You got to do
Speaker 1: your impersonation now, thank you, thank.
Speaker 4: You, gets boring, wrong line the bank.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Todd, what a great moment for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that I know, I know, I know. But Friday
Speaker 1: was rough Friday after the show because Todd was doing
Speaker 1: his dice Clay in person.
Speaker 4: I was glowing with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No one's had a better year than Fritzy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not leading Canada for a most Valuable dant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's had a good year.
Speaker 4: Darius Rutger and Andrew dice Clay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know. Right now you're the clubhouse
Speaker 1: leader most valuable Dan in oh thank you. Yeah. Still
Speaker 1: plenty of time though for you to screw it.
Speaker 4: Up like the Lions or the Dolphins. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't know if everybody's bought in and
Speaker 1: they think you're real, like for real, you're you're sort
Speaker 1: of a Lions type. Feel we're rooting for you, but
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Fritzy has been the most valuable and least
Speaker 1: valuable Dan at the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: So odd that you can do.
Speaker 1: That, Uh, Johnny, Grand Canyon where they have phone service.
Speaker 10: Hi, Johnny, Hey Dan, first time, long time, five to eleven,
Speaker 10: two ten, So best and worst of the weekend. I'm
Speaker 10: gonna start off with worst Clayton Kershaw getting rocked for
Speaker 10: a third of an inning. Sad to see, uh, sad
Speaker 10: to see that. Hopefully he bounces back. The best of
Speaker 10: the weekend, the Steelers taking that w from the Ravens.
Speaker 10: And I also wanted to send a invitation to everybody
Speaker 10: out there for my new bar at Crappensburg State the Cathedral.
Speaker 10: We are a fiber of Crappensburg State Athletics where everybody
Speaker 10: can pull up their throne every weekend and catch a game.
Speaker 1: Well, you go in there and you sit on a
Speaker 1: stool there you see what I did to yeahol, okay,
Speaker 1: to me over under for the Lions this year, anybody, Marvin,
Speaker 1: I'll start with you.
Speaker 4: Over under eleven and a half?
Speaker 1: Seeing these things? Are you seeing these things.
Speaker 4: That I am not? You swear play the day stuff?
Speaker 4: I know?
Speaker 1: Okay, wow, MVD rolling, Okay, let me try this. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys over under Marvin and don't try to give me
Speaker 1: the wrong answer just to throw me off here.
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna try to get it right. Okay, I
Speaker 4: got him at nine and a half. Done, I'm ten
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 1: Nice try, Marvin. It's close enough, but not Chiefs over
Speaker 1: under Marvin.
Speaker 4: Twelve and a half Blue. Come on, don't play with me.
Speaker 4: Come on now, come on, no life, Come.
Speaker 1: On, Brandon and Tallahassee. Hi, Brandon, great, great, great great.
Speaker 15: I have one very quick best of the weekend, and
Speaker 15: then the trivia question for you guys I would like
Speaker 15: to answer. Okay, okay, so the best of the weekend.
Speaker 15: I got the pillos to watch Crappinsburg State squeeze out
Speaker 15: a double overtime victory over rival Western Crappinsburg State.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, okay.
Speaker 15: And then the trivia question would be no quarterback in
Speaker 15: NFL history has lost to all thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 15: One quarterback has a chance to Lucia's thirty first this year,
Speaker 15: which would be the most all time. Who is that quarterback?
Speaker 1: Marvin?
Speaker 4: Ryan Fitzpatrick isn't in the league. I'm lost on this one.
Speaker 1: Anybody want to tod Do you want to.
Speaker 4: Go Matthew Stafford. It's been around a long time.
Speaker 1: That would have been my guest, the Matthew Stafford. Brandon, Brandon, what.
Speaker 15: Derek Carr is the answer?
Speaker 1: Oh Derek Carr? All right, well, thank you Brandon. This
Speaker 1: day in sports history, Pauling.
Speaker 7: There a car that's a curveball. Cincinnati Reads in nineteen
Speaker 7: nineteen won the World Series and the eight Red Sox
Speaker 7: players were charge of throwing the game. They actually were
Speaker 7: found not guilty in a court of law, but the
Speaker 7: their band for life. And let's see, oh this was
Speaker 7: a really gutsy move. The La Kings retired Wayne Gretzy's
Speaker 7: number ninety nine. Not a lot of decision making that one.
Speaker 1: There it is.
Speaker 7: You imagined that meeting should should we?
Speaker 1: Should we wait a little bit? Well, it's like the
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor with Jimmy Johnson with the Cowboys, like
Speaker 1: you know, at some point Jerry waiting for the time.
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