WEBVTT - Roberto Clemente & Jesse Owens

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Elliott, Oh, hey, be what's with the treadmill and

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball bat? Well? Today's historical figures are Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame baseball player Roberto Clemente, an Olympic runner Jesse Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been inspired. I want to get as

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<v Speaker 1>good at track and field and baseball as they were. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great goal. But keep in mind it took

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<v Speaker 1>years of practice to get as good as they were.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, why do you think I'm going to hit

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<v Speaker 1>a few home friends ball running on the treadmill. Use

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<v Speaker 1>your noggin, but that sounds remarkably dangerous, Meka. No one

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<v Speaker 1>ever said being one of the best is safe. Now

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<v Speaker 1>be a Georgia peach and turn on that pitching machine

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Some people got to learn it the hard way.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess whoa These baseballs are like like they come

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<v Speaker 1>at a fast No, no, no, no, I got this.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one is mine. Oh I think we broke Old

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<v Speaker 1>Man McCaffrey's window. We you turn on the pitching machine. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>who's basi? BOLLI is this? You're gonna pay for that window?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get out of here. Eric, please play the theme song,

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<v Speaker 1>you know about the rates from this story? The game

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's time to play but CASHO Live from Tom

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<v Speaker 1>to the Who Was? Podcast. This show is like Jeopardy,

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<v Speaker 1>only with surprise guests, silly games, and our own library.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Elliott, check out this book. Okay, it's due in

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks. Our contestants were sent who Was books about

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<v Speaker 1>two great figures from history. Now they're here to show

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<v Speaker 1>off their knowledge and the hope, So we ain't fantastic Pride.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're discussing two sporty gents, Roberto Clemente and Jesse Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to know them, let's get to

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<v Speaker 1>know our contestants. Alright. First up, we have Fryce Frice.

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<v Speaker 1>Please introduce yourself. Which Bryce, I like to play basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a goal forward two and well for one historian,

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<v Speaker 1>and my favorite basketball player is Steph Curry. Oh wow? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So have you thought of combining your love of World

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<v Speaker 1>War One and World War two? Um knowledge with basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>And what kind of game would that be? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me pitch the idea to you. Okay, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>trenches in the court like in World War One, very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta dribble the ball over or around those? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And then actually that's dangerous enough. I don't want to Then,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to start adding explosions and things to

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<v Speaker 1>a basketball game. Although I don't know. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it later. We'll talk about it later, Brians. How does

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<v Speaker 1>that sound to you? Okay? All right, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Cool. All right, Well, thank you for being

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<v Speaker 1>here today, Brice, and with us today we also have Luca, Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>please introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Luca. I say them pronouns,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like baking and books. All right? What are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you what are your go to baking things?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you ever think about combining your love of

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<v Speaker 1>baking and books and read about baking or baker book? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you would say that out too predictable. One

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things to read is cookbooks. Um, And

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite things to bake is a vegan

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate cake for a MC hot from the A M

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<v Speaker 1>C Huts. What's not? Um? There hots in the Appealation Mountains. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are eight of them and I'm trying to go

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<v Speaker 1>to all of them by the time I'm thirteen and

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<v Speaker 1>I've done I think five. Oh my goodness, Wow, you're

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<v Speaker 1>well on your way. Wow that sounds like a mean

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<v Speaker 1>vegan take. Can't wait to get one of those in

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<v Speaker 1>the mail because because I know you'll be sending them

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<v Speaker 1>to us right same here here for the record, Luca

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<v Speaker 1>is shaking their head. Yes, okay, yeah, we all saw it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm shaking my head. No that's not the way. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the way we saw it. And I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to open up that package and pull out that

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<v Speaker 1>cake and cut a slice and find a book inside

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<v Speaker 1>as you because you baked a book inside. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should go to the eye doctor. I'm definitely shaking

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<v Speaker 1>my head. No, the eye doctor said I wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to come anymore because IVE got too many questions wrong. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you both for joining us, and thank you to Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>our musician, for providing that lovely Meet the Contestants music.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's who is Bryce and Luca. Now let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out who was Jesse Owens with four fast facts cospects.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Owens was born in nineteen thirteen and died in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty. Jesse Owens set three world records in track

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<v Speaker 1>and field and tied another in less than an hour

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<v Speaker 1>at the Big Ten Championships In nineteen thirty five. The

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<v Speaker 1>Associated Press named him the greatest track athlete of the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of the twentieth century. Jesse Owens screw up

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<v Speaker 1>during the era of Jim Crow laws. These were laws

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<v Speaker 1>that prevented black people from being treated equally and having

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<v Speaker 1>the same opportunities that white people had. Cospects, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I am wondering, so, um, Bryce, you like basketball

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<v Speaker 1>and what position. Do you point guard? Blankard? Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're handling the ball a lot. You're guarding the

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<v Speaker 1>person who's pointing at the ball and saying it's over there. Bryce,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any tips for if I have to

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<v Speaker 1>do a free throw? Do you have any tips of

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<v Speaker 1>how to how to make this swish? Sometimes if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going through the swish, the ball can balance off and

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<v Speaker 1>sold Document arming for the backboard, Amy for the backboard.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, good good. I think the first step is

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<v Speaker 1>to start playing basketball. I don't know. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work. I'd rather just do the swish,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Yeah, that's the fun part. Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>do you play any sports at all? No, Baking. Baking

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<v Speaker 1>can be a sport. You sweat a lot in the kitchen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>be likes to bake inside of a bigger of it

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<v Speaker 1>that she can feel what it's like to be the cake,

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<v Speaker 1>So it gets very hot there. I'm very empathetic baker.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a great a great tip from Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>and some great criticism from Luca. Let's be let's get

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<v Speaker 1>right to our first game. True or false? False? It's

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<v Speaker 1>a false? Was a true? True? That it is false?

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<v Speaker 1>It was true or true? True or false. Here's how

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<v Speaker 1>this game works. Be will read a statement about Jesse Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'll tell us if it's true or false false,

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<v Speaker 1>twist ending surprise. And since this is our first game,

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<v Speaker 1>each question is worth one point. Bryce, You'll be going first,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Bryce? True or fault. Jesse Owens was an

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<v Speaker 1>only child. False, that's right, the answer is false. Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>waste and the youngest child of Henry and Emma Owens.

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<v Speaker 1>Life was difficult for the Owens family. The entire family

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<v Speaker 1>lived in a three room wooden house where wind would

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<v Speaker 1>blow between the wallboards. The children crowded into two rooms

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. There weren't enough beds. Some slept on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse knew his life was hard, but as he once said,

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<v Speaker 1>we had a lot of fun. We always a Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>You're up next? True or false. Coach Larry Snyder at

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State University was Jesse's first track coach. True, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's false. Jesse met Charles Riley, a teacher and the

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<v Speaker 1>track team coach at Fairmont Junior High. Coach Riley watched

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse running on the playground and saw something special. He

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<v Speaker 1>worked with Jesse before school, showed Jesse how to run

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<v Speaker 1>smoothly and easily, and also welcomed Jesse into his home

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<v Speaker 1>and invited him over for dinner. Jesse later said that

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<v Speaker 1>coach Riley was the first white person who had ever

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<v Speaker 1>really known Bryce. You get the next true or false?

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<v Speaker 1>True or false? Jesse Owens won four gold medals at

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen thirty six Summer Olympics in Berlin, Germany. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>the answer is true. Jesse Owens was the first American

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<v Speaker 1>athlete ever to win four track and field gold medals

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<v Speaker 1>at a single Olympics. Many Americans wanted to boycott the

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<v Speaker 1>Berlin Olympics, which meant not sending over athletes and not

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to it. They feared participating would give power

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<v Speaker 1>to Aidolf Hitler, who was in charge of Germany at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Jesse and many other athletes didn't want to boycott.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse's coach said that by competing in the Olympics, Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>quote could show Hitler what a black athlete could do.

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<v Speaker 1>A vote was held by the American Athletic Union and

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<v Speaker 1>the result was to send the team. Jesse made history

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<v Speaker 1>winning four gold medals and Luca, you have the last

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<v Speaker 1>question of the round, true or false. After the Olympics,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse was paid to fly to Cuba and raise a

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<v Speaker 1>horse named Fulio Macaw. False. I'm sorry, that's true too.

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<v Speaker 1>While winning gold in the Berlin Olympics, Jesse Owens received

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<v Speaker 1>job offers and opportunities for paid appearances back home, but

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<v Speaker 1>when he returned, nearly every offer disappeared. Jesse said it

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<v Speaker 1>became increasingly clear that everyone was going to slap me

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<v Speaker 1>on the back. I want to shake my hand or

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<v Speaker 1>have me up to their hotel suite, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>was going to offer me a job. White olympians appeared

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<v Speaker 1>in movies or were paid to promote products. Black athletes

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<v Speaker 1>like Jesse, However, a few such opportunities. He later said,

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<v Speaker 1>people said an Olympic champion should not race a horse,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can't eat four gold medals, and that's true

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<v Speaker 1>or false? True? True, true or false? That was a

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<v Speaker 1>great round, everybody. I'd say, we all learned a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And next up is next up is um cut? Next

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<v Speaker 1>we have Elliott? What's up? Be that gust of wind

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<v Speaker 1>scattered my script everywhere? I'm not sure what's next. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something you don't usually see indoors my bad. Sorry

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<v Speaker 1>about that, Jesse. Always that's right courtesy of the Who

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<v Speaker 1>was that? Who? You want to be somewhere? Best? You need?

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<v Speaker 1>What brings you to the show? Jesse? Well my ears

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<v Speaker 1>were burning? Oh because you knew we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>you on the show. No, it was because I was

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<v Speaker 1>running so fast. It happens every now and then. So

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<v Speaker 1>I ran to the fire department, as I do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I oways shot by a few blocks. Also happens every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then. And here I am, which does remind me.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't happen to have a bottle of water on you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, of course, Here take mine. Oh I appreciate you,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the stuff. I'm sorry I used up all your

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<v Speaker 1>water on my ears. Be right back here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Not necessary? Oh wow, and it's still so cold? Oh thanks?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow wow wow. No wonder you could outrun a

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<v Speaker 1>horse made two grand on that stunt. Hey, can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question? I'd be happy to give you

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<v Speaker 1>an answer. Could you outren a card? I'm sure he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to just answer. Depends on the car Afford fusion. Sure, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what about what about a Lamborghini? But I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 1>just got a little excited. Just because I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask the question doesn't mean I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>know the answer to the question. Oh absolutely, but i'd

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<v Speaker 1>break a sweat. Okay, what about a BMW? I could,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't need to beat up on Germany again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, what a balance. Let me simplify this for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is a list of everything I can out run. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hold on, it's going the longest paper I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me just give you a sample here. I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>run the fox and not this spread of chickenpox and

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of feet wearing sandals. Oh, I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were gonna say socks. Now why would you think that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it rhymes with all the other words you listed? Huh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so. But this is a list, not a poem.

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<v Speaker 1>That may I continue? Oh? Please, thank you? I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>run a beagle, an eagle, a quick paralegal, and the

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<v Speaker 1>queen who looks really regal fancy Elliott, I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>and all, but this is a long list here, so apologies,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Owens, please continue. Elliott, please just let him read

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<v Speaker 1>the list. I'm trying, but the rhymes are right there.

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<v Speaker 1>She's our just I cannot run a whale, a quail,

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<v Speaker 1>both Chip and Dell in the boat that comes with

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<v Speaker 1>us motor. I can out run a breeze, a sneeze,

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<v Speaker 1>a big swarm of these, and the mouse running for something.

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut butter. Nice love peanut butter. Of course they do

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<v Speaker 1>they sure do you know. It's been fun talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you both, but I better get going. I'll leave the

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<v Speaker 1>list hand and you can read through it on your

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<v Speaker 1>own time. Thanks for having me, and thanks to the

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<v Speaker 1>who was that? Who? Nice guy? And hey look it

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<v Speaker 1>says here he can out run a hair, a mare,

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<v Speaker 1>a big grizzly bear and the famous French author Proust

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<v Speaker 1>No voltaire, Elliott it rides Okay, I definitely need a break. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>would you please play us some track and field music please?

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<v Speaker 1>Running and jumping? Well, come back to the Who Was podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're learning lest Roberto Clementa and was Jesse Owens?

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to your host, Elliot Kalen. Thank you be.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's make like Jesse Owens and run over to

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<v Speaker 1>producer Jane with the scores. Hello, Elliott and b I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to tell you Bryce has raced ahead with two

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<v Speaker 1>points to Lucas No point. Yet, that's right, still early

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<v Speaker 1>in the game. Is still a close game. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the next game, and I like to

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<v Speaker 1>say the word game instead of a lot, let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out who was Roberto Clemente with four fast facts. Roberto

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<v Speaker 1>Clemente was born in nineteen thirty four in Puerto Rico

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<v Speaker 1>and died in nineteen seventy two. Roberto Clemente was signed

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<v Speaker 1>to the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team when he was just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years old, and was drafted by the Pittsburgh Pirates

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<v Speaker 1>the following year. He'd played for the Pirates for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto Clemente won four National League batting titles, competed in

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<v Speaker 1>two World Series with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and was named

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest right fielder of all time. Roberto Clemente was

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<v Speaker 1>elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in nineteen two.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's time for our next game. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be playing hashtag history. Hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag history,

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag history. Okay, contestants in this game, B will read

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<v Speaker 1>you a hashtag Roberto Clemente might have used on his

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<v Speaker 1>social media if they had social media when he was alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And you will tell us what it's about. And since

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<v Speaker 1>this is our second round, each question is worth two points. B.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would please begin, Luca, this first question is

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<v Speaker 1>for you. The first hashtag is hashtag my commute. Would

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto use that hashtag because A he loved returning to

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<v Speaker 1>Puerto Rico in the off season or be he loved

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<v Speaker 1>car pooling with his teammates A. That's right. The answer

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<v Speaker 1>is A. Roberto would play baseball in Pittsburgh in the

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<v Speaker 1>summer and return home to Puerto Rico where it was

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<v Speaker 1>still warm, and played baseball in the winter. But that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't the only reason would return home. Roberto was homesick

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<v Speaker 1>while living in Pittsburgh. He missed his friends and family,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was difficult for him to get to know

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<v Speaker 1>his new teammates on the Pittsburgh Pirates as he was

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<v Speaker 1>still learning to speak English. Bryce. This next hashtag is

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<v Speaker 1>for you, all right, Bryce. This hashtag is hashtag baseball fever.

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<v Speaker 1>Would Roberto use that hashtag because A. Once Roberto caught

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<v Speaker 1>the flu from an improperly cleaned baseball bat or be

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, Roberto played baseball every single moment he could B.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The answer is be. Roberto and his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and his brothers played baseball after school and on weekends.

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<v Speaker 1>They even made their own gear. Roberto formed baseballs by

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping old socks or rags very tightly with string, then

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<v Speaker 1>sowing a piece of cloth over the socks. He once

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<v Speaker 1>played a seven and a half hour game with his

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<v Speaker 1>friends where he hit ten whole runs. Roberto's mother, Luisa,

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<v Speaker 1>worried about his love of baseball, saying there were times

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<v Speaker 1>he was so much in love with baseball that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even care for food. Luca, here's the next hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>for you. The next hashtag is hashtag pitch in and help.

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<v Speaker 1>Would Roberto use that hashtag because A he was a

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<v Speaker 1>star pitcher who always helped win games. Or be. From

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<v Speaker 1>the time he was a boy, he was known as

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was always willing to help out. B. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is be. Roberto enjoyed helping people and helped

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<v Speaker 1>his community from an early age. When he was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>he crossed a dangerous highway to put an injured person

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<v Speaker 1>from a fiery car accident. As an adult, he led

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<v Speaker 1>baseball clinics and visited kids in hospitals. He was important

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<v Speaker 1>to him to help young baseball players in Puerto Rico.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto once said, if you have a chance to accomplish

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<v Speaker 1>something that will make things better for people coming behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't, you are wasting your time on this earth. Harsh, Roberto,

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<v Speaker 1>but fair, but very fair. Okay, Bryce, bring us to

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<v Speaker 1>the home plate. This last one's for you. Your final

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag is hashtag family guy. Would Roberto use that hashtag

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<v Speaker 1>because A he had great pride and love for his

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<v Speaker 1>wife and kids, or be he always wanted to create

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<v Speaker 1>a successful cartoon. Ay, that's right. The answer is a.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto and his wife Biera had three boys, Roberto Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>Luis Roberto, and Enrique. Roberto Junior later remembered people coming

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<v Speaker 1>to their house all day long to meet his father,

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<v Speaker 1>and Roberto Senior would greet each stranger. Beer said he'd

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<v Speaker 1>even avoid other commitments to spend time with his family,

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<v Speaker 1>and there'd be no baseball talk in the house, which

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<v Speaker 1>was very hard because as we know, he had baseball fever.

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<v Speaker 1>Is probably his favorite thing to talk about. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>hashtag history. Hashtag history hashtag. Okay, we're going to take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break, but we'll be back with the scores

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<v Speaker 1>and our final game. Eric, would you please play us

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<v Speaker 1>some after school baseball music plays. It's a pastime, past time, Sally,

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<v Speaker 1>who was there? Marie Curie? You may remember me from

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<v Speaker 1>winning multiple Nobel prizes, or perhaps from my episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Worst Podcast where I played myself. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews

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<v Speaker 1>about the Who Was Podcast. This is from Shaken Bay

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<v Speaker 1>love this show more. Please. Our faith is Ariet Toman.

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<v Speaker 1>give your podcasts revoir or should I stay abbiato? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the Who Was? Podcast. Today we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto Clemente and Jesse Owens. Now back to your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott Taylan. Thank you be. We've got a real nail

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<v Speaker 1>biter of a game going, so without further ado, let's

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<v Speaker 1>go over to Cruiser Jane, who has the latest box scores.

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<v Speaker 1>I said box scores because of baseball Jane, real scores.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is, but I do know

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<v Speaker 1>that my good pal Bryce has six points and Luca

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<v Speaker 1>has come up from zero to four. Thank you, Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>Still a very close game that didn't rhyme it exactly

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<v Speaker 1>but almost so close enough but almost that. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>good enough for me, even though it's not great. And hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds me of our final game, Converge of Greatness.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just get my speech ready for when I

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<v Speaker 1>picked up in a word for how great that segue

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<v Speaker 1>was between the scores and the game. Now, that is

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<v Speaker 1>what I call the home run. Thank you very much, Be,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. In this multiple choice game Converge of Greatness, Be,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll read questions where are two historical figures overlap or converge?

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<v Speaker 1>And because recovering two times the history, the game is

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<v Speaker 1>worth three points. For each question you do the map,

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<v Speaker 1>pick the best option as your answer. Chrice, this first

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<v Speaker 1>question is for you, take it away. Being both Roberto

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<v Speaker 1>Clemente and Jesse Owens traveled far from home to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse traveled to Germany at a time when Hitler and

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<v Speaker 1>his followers openly believed black people were less than humid.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse was unfortunately familiar with this backward thinking due to

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<v Speaker 1>the racism and Jim Crow laws. He faced in America. However,

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<v Speaker 1>when Roberto came to the mainland, leaving Puerto Rico to

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<v Speaker 1>play baseball, he was shocked by this mainstay of American

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<v Speaker 1>life at the time. A segregation B skyscrapers or see

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<v Speaker 1>huge supermarkets. Ay, that's right, The answer is a. Black

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<v Speaker 1>people and white people were not separated in Puerto Rico. However,

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<v Speaker 1>during a trip to Virginia, Berto and his black teammates

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<v Speaker 1>could not eat at the same restaurant as their white teammates.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Jim Crow laws, Roberto and his black teammates were

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed in the white hotels, golf clubs, or swimming pools.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse contended with racism throughout his entire career, even having

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<v Speaker 1>to ride separate busses to his college track and field events.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Crow laws were enforced from eighteen seventy until about

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty five the United States. Luca, here is the

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<v Speaker 1>next question for you, all right, Luca. Both Jesse Owens

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<v Speaker 1>and Roberto Clemente suffered back injuries unrelated to their sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Roberto's was due to a car accident, but Jesse's injury

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<v Speaker 1>was due to a He was body slammed by Roman

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<v Speaker 1>Reins b he slipped on a banana peal and hurt

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<v Speaker 1>his back. Or see he accidentally fell down some stairs

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<v Speaker 1>while wrestling with friends see corrects. The answer is see.

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<v Speaker 1>A week before the nineteen thirty five Big Ten Championships,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse hurt his back. He was in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>pain and thought he might not be able to compete.

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<v Speaker 1>His coach did not want him to run injured and

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<v Speaker 1>put his future in danger, but Jesse worked all week

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<v Speaker 1>with the team trainers to get better. Jesse, still in

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<v Speaker 1>great pain, decided to compete. He completed the one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>yard dash in nine point four seconds and tie the

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<v Speaker 1>world record set. Despite this incredible story, you should still

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<v Speaker 1>not horseplay in the house. I can't. I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>say it enough. No horseplay indoors. Safety First, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to You don't want to knock over the coffee too. Rice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the drill your questions next. Both Roberto Clemente

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<v Speaker 1>and Jesse Owens one gold in their respective careers. Jesse,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, one gold at the Olympics, and Roberto's gold

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<v Speaker 1>came in the form of a thousands of coins that

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<v Speaker 1>he liked to swim around in be the Baseball Award

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<v Speaker 1>the gold Glove or see straw that he spun into gold.

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<v Speaker 1>B that's right. The answer is be. After the nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty one season, Roberto won the Gold Glove, an award

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<v Speaker 1>given to baseball players for fielding excellence. Players and coaches

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<v Speaker 1>vote to choose the best player at each position in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Roberto would go on to win the Gold

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<v Speaker 1>Glove every season after that. His career total of twelve

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<v Speaker 1>gold Gloves is still tied with William May's for the

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<v Speaker 1>most among outfielders. Luca, here's the last one. Both Roberto

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<v Speaker 1>Clemente and Jesse Owens both had reactions to the civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement of the nineteen sixties. Roberto followed the civil

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<v Speaker 1>rights movement closely, spending time with Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

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<v Speaker 1>Homed He greatly admired Jesse appreciated what people like Dr

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<v Speaker 1>King we're doing, but initially felt that A. There should

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<v Speaker 1>be more protests. Be there should be more aggressive protests,

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<v Speaker 1>or see that protest wasn't the way to change things.

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<v Speaker 1>See that's right. The answer is see. Jesse believed in

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<v Speaker 1>making life better for black people, but he did not

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<v Speaker 1>agree with protests. He didn't want to rock the vote.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted to live his life as best he could.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen seventy, Jesse corrode a book called Black Thing.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote that he believed that are you in protesting

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<v Speaker 1>were not the answers to America's problems with Ray, but

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from other black people changed his mind. Two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote another book called I Am Changed. In it,

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<v Speaker 1>he apologized for Black Thing as he came to a

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<v Speaker 1>better understanding of the civil rights movement more clearly. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's converge of greatness. The end of that game means,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just about the end of the show. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sad about it too. While Jane talies the score,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from our contestants. What was something

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<v Speaker 1>you were surprised to learn about? Either Rotal Clemente or

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Owens Price. What surprised you? The veral quarantine? One

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<v Speaker 1>twelve golden globes. That's so many, right, That's more than

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<v Speaker 1>you can fit on a shelf. You've got to put

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<v Speaker 1>extra shelves in your house to hold those. And also

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<v Speaker 1>that he wanted like every year, and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for him every year, so it was like every

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<v Speaker 1>year they were like, no, this guy just keeps getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>It's amazing. And the hard part then, though, is that

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<v Speaker 1>you've got to play the game next season and wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a gold glove which is very heavy and it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to move around your hand in it. But that's also

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<v Speaker 1>why he was so strong. Oh yeah, it makes well,

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that's like, it makes you even better, unless I'm misunderstanding

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:14.840
<v Speaker 1>something about baseball, which seems impossible. Luca, what surprised you

0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>about either of our historical figures That Jesse Owens raised

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<v Speaker 1>a horse. It's a wild right, Yeah, it's really And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had the same reaction I

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<v Speaker 1>did when I first hear that, I'm like, whoa, that's amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>But then realizing that he had to do it because

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<v Speaker 1>he was having trouble finding work that he thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna get, it actually becomes kind of sad. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that sounds a little funny at first, but

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<v Speaker 1>then you you dig into it at it and you

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<v Speaker 1>realize he shouldn't have had to raise that horse. Although

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the horse being Julio McCaw, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great name for a hole. Yeah, it's a great name

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<v Speaker 1>for a horse. It's a great name for parrot. A parrot.

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<v Speaker 1>But also I also love the I mean, he was

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<v Speaker 1>very matter of fact about it. He was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't eat four gold medals. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that was something that was really great about him was

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<v Speaker 1>that he was just like, I'm not apologizing for is

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is not my problem. It's a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with the way the world was working. So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was pretty pretty wild. Thank you both for sharing

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<v Speaker 1>those surprises. And now it's time for the big moment. Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>will you please announce our winner? I sure we'll announce

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<v Speaker 1>the winner. It was such a close game. Luke ahead

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<v Speaker 1>ten points, but Price jump ahead with twelve, so Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>is our winer. Congratulations Bryce, and congratulations Louply. You played

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<v Speaker 1>a great game. Should both be very proud of how

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<v Speaker 1>you did. Brice as our winner, you have ten seconds

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<v Speaker 1>for shoutouts, go for it. Who would you like to

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<v Speaker 1>thank for getting you to the winner's podium? All my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>ninal butts are my parents. It's wonderful. Yeah, that's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that covers everybody our winner and their library

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<v Speaker 1>of choice, where we receiving a selection of who was books,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to give my own shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>intern Zach, Jane, Eric and Eric Austen for being our

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Owens be and a big thank you to both

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<v Speaker 1>of our contestants for playing an amazing game, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course the law just Gold Medalist. Thank you of all

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<v Speaker 1>to you the listener and listening to the show. Join

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<v Speaker 1>Two more amazing figures from history. I want to find

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<v Speaker 1>go within me. Let's get out of here. Until then,

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