Speaker 1: Hey Elliott, Oh, hey, be what's with the treadmill and
Speaker 1: the baseball bat? Well? Today's historical figures are Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame baseball player Roberto Clemente, an Olympic runner Jesse Owens,
Speaker 1: and I have been inspired. I want to get as
Speaker 1: good at track and field and baseball as they were. Wow.
Speaker 1: That's a great goal. But keep in mind it took
Speaker 1: years of practice to get as good as they were.
Speaker 1: I know, why do you think I'm going to hit
Speaker 1: a few home friends ball running on the treadmill. Use
Speaker 1: your noggin, but that sounds remarkably dangerous, Meka. No one
Speaker 1: ever said being one of the best is safe. Now
Speaker 1: be a Georgia peach and turn on that pitching machine
Speaker 1: for me. Some people got to learn it the hard way.
Speaker 1: I guess whoa These baseballs are like like they come
Speaker 1: at a fast No, no, no, no, I got this.
Speaker 1: Next one is mine. Oh I think we broke Old
Speaker 1: Man McCaffrey's window. We you turn on the pitching machine. Hey,
Speaker 1: who's basi? BOLLI is this? You're gonna pay for that window?
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. Eric, please play the theme song,
Speaker 1: Hey Jake back here, Hey you Kings in your history
Speaker 1: based trivia podcast. Here we go. What do you think
Speaker 1: you know about the rates from this story? The game
Speaker 1: is on. To get some energy and buckle up your
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Speaker 1: Who Was? The history quiz show that gives contestants the
Speaker 1: chance to win mega prizes and podcast glory. I'm b
Speaker 1: your announcer and black licorice enthusiasts. Now here's your host,
Speaker 1: the man who sells seashells by the seashore. It's Allie.
Speaker 1: Can't thank you be You'd think sea shores wouldn't be
Speaker 1: the best place to sell seashells because they're already right
Speaker 1: out there for free. But when people are at the
Speaker 1: sea shore, they just want sea shells. And welcome everyone
Speaker 1: to the Who Was? Podcast. This show is like Jeopardy,
Speaker 1: only with surprise guests, silly games, and our own library.
Speaker 1: Hey Elliott, check out this book. Okay, it's due in
Speaker 1: three weeks. Our contestants were sent who Was books about
Speaker 1: two great figures from history. Now they're here to show
Speaker 1: off their knowledge and the hope, So we ain't fantastic Pride.
Speaker 1: Today we're discussing two sporty gents, Roberto Clemente and Jesse Owens.
Speaker 1: But before we get to know them, let's get to
Speaker 1: know our contestants. Alright. First up, we have Fryce Frice.
Speaker 1: Please introduce yourself. Which Bryce, I like to play basketball.
Speaker 1: I'm a goal forward two and well for one historian,
Speaker 1: and my favorite basketball player is Steph Curry. Oh wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: So have you thought of combining your love of World
Speaker 1: War One and World War two? Um knowledge with basketball?
Speaker 1: And what kind of game would that be? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me pitch the idea to you. Okay, you've got
Speaker 1: trenches in the court like in World War One, very dangerous.
Speaker 1: You gotta dribble the ball over or around those? Uh?
Speaker 1: And then actually that's dangerous enough. I don't want to Then,
Speaker 1: I don't want to start adding explosions and things to
Speaker 1: a basketball game. Although I don't know. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: it later. We'll talk about it later, Brians. How does
Speaker 1: that sound to you? Okay? All right, I think he's
Speaker 1: into it. Cool. All right, Well, thank you for being
Speaker 1: here today, Brice, and with us today we also have Luca, Luca,
Speaker 1: please introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Luca. I say them pronouns,
Speaker 1: and I like baking and books. All right? What are
Speaker 1: the things that you what are your go to baking things?
Speaker 1: And do you ever think about combining your love of
Speaker 1: baking and books and read about baking or baker book? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I knew you would say that out too predictable. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to read is cookbooks. Um, And
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things to bake is a vegan
Speaker 1: chocolate cake for a MC hot from the A M
Speaker 1: C Huts. What's not? Um? There hots in the Appealation Mountains. Uh,
Speaker 1: there are eight of them and I'm trying to go
Speaker 1: to all of them by the time I'm thirteen and
Speaker 1: I've done I think five. Oh my goodness, Wow, you're
Speaker 1: well on your way. Wow that sounds like a mean
Speaker 1: vegan take. Can't wait to get one of those in
Speaker 1: the mail because because I know you'll be sending them
Speaker 1: to us right same here here for the record, Luca
Speaker 1: is shaking their head. Yes, okay, yeah, we all saw it.
Speaker 1: I'm shaking my head. No that's not the way. That's
Speaker 1: not the way we saw it. And I just can't
Speaker 1: wait to open up that package and pull out that
Speaker 1: cake and cut a slice and find a book inside
Speaker 1: as you because you baked a book inside. I think
Speaker 1: you should go to the eye doctor. I'm definitely shaking
Speaker 1: my head. No, the eye doctor said I wasn't allowed
Speaker 1: to come anymore because IVE got too many questions wrong. Anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you both for joining us, and thank you to Eric,
Speaker 1: our musician, for providing that lovely Meet the Contestants music.
Speaker 1: So that's who is Bryce and Luca. Now let's find
Speaker 1: out who was Jesse Owens with four fast facts cospects.
Speaker 1: Jesse Owens was born in nineteen thirteen and died in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty. Jesse Owens set three world records in track
Speaker 1: and field and tied another in less than an hour
Speaker 1: at the Big Ten Championships In nineteen thirty five. The
Speaker 1: Associated Press named him the greatest track athlete of the
Speaker 1: first half of the twentieth century. Jesse Owens screw up
Speaker 1: during the era of Jim Crow laws. These were laws
Speaker 1: that prevented black people from being treated equally and having
Speaker 1: the same opportunities that white people had. Cospects, all right,
Speaker 1: So I am wondering, so, um, Bryce, you like basketball
Speaker 1: and what position. Do you point guard? Blankard? Okay, so
Speaker 1: you're you're handling the ball a lot. You're guarding the
Speaker 1: person who's pointing at the ball and saying it's over there. Bryce,
Speaker 1: do you have any tips for if I have to
Speaker 1: do a free throw? Do you have any tips of
Speaker 1: how to how to make this swish? Sometimes if you're
Speaker 1: going through the swish, the ball can balance off and
Speaker 1: sold Document arming for the backboard, Amy for the backboard.
Speaker 1: All right, good good. I think the first step is
Speaker 1: to start playing basketball. I don't know. That sounds like
Speaker 1: a lot of work. I'd rather just do the swish,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, that's the fun part. Luca,
Speaker 1: do you play any sports at all? No, Baking. Baking
Speaker 1: can be a sport. You sweat a lot in the kitchen. Well,
Speaker 1: be likes to bake inside of a bigger of it
Speaker 1: that she can feel what it's like to be the cake,
Speaker 1: So it gets very hot there. I'm very empathetic baker.
Speaker 1: So that was a great a great tip from Bryce
Speaker 1: and some great criticism from Luca. Let's be let's get
Speaker 1: right to our first game. True or false? False? It's
Speaker 1: a false? Was a true? True? That it is false?
Speaker 1: It was true or true? True or false. Here's how
Speaker 1: this game works. Be will read a statement about Jesse Owens,
Speaker 1: and you'll tell us if it's true or false false,
Speaker 1: twist ending surprise. And since this is our first game,
Speaker 1: each question is worth one point. Bryce, You'll be going first,
Speaker 1: all right, Bryce? True or fault. Jesse Owens was an
Speaker 1: only child. False, that's right, the answer is false. Jesse
Speaker 1: waste and the youngest child of Henry and Emma Owens.
Speaker 1: Life was difficult for the Owens family. The entire family
Speaker 1: lived in a three room wooden house where wind would
Speaker 1: blow between the wallboards. The children crowded into two rooms
Speaker 1: to sleep. There weren't enough beds. Some slept on the floor.
Speaker 1: Jesse knew his life was hard, but as he once said,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of fun. We always a Luca,
Speaker 1: You're up next? True or false. Coach Larry Snyder at
Speaker 1: Ohio State University was Jesse's first track coach. True, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's false. Jesse met Charles Riley, a teacher and the
Speaker 1: track team coach at Fairmont Junior High. Coach Riley watched
Speaker 1: Jesse running on the playground and saw something special. He
Speaker 1: worked with Jesse before school, showed Jesse how to run
Speaker 1: smoothly and easily, and also welcomed Jesse into his home
Speaker 1: and invited him over for dinner. Jesse later said that
Speaker 1: coach Riley was the first white person who had ever
Speaker 1: really known Bryce. You get the next true or false?
Speaker 1: True or false? Jesse Owens won four gold medals at
Speaker 1: the nineteen thirty six Summer Olympics in Berlin, Germany. That's right,
Speaker 1: the answer is true. Jesse Owens was the first American
Speaker 1: athlete ever to win four track and field gold medals
Speaker 1: at a single Olympics. Many Americans wanted to boycott the
Speaker 1: Berlin Olympics, which meant not sending over athletes and not
Speaker 1: paying attention to it. They feared participating would give power
Speaker 1: to Aidolf Hitler, who was in charge of Germany at
Speaker 1: the time. Jesse and many other athletes didn't want to boycott.
Speaker 1: Jesse's coach said that by competing in the Olympics, Jesse
Speaker 1: quote could show Hitler what a black athlete could do.
Speaker 1: A vote was held by the American Athletic Union and
Speaker 1: the result was to send the team. Jesse made history
Speaker 1: winning four gold medals and Luca, you have the last
Speaker 1: question of the round, true or false. After the Olympics,
Speaker 1: Jesse was paid to fly to Cuba and raise a
Speaker 1: horse named Fulio Macaw. False. I'm sorry, that's true too.
Speaker 1: While winning gold in the Berlin Olympics, Jesse Owens received
Speaker 1: job offers and opportunities for paid appearances back home, but
Speaker 1: when he returned, nearly every offer disappeared. Jesse said it
Speaker 1: became increasingly clear that everyone was going to slap me
Speaker 1: on the back. I want to shake my hand or
Speaker 1: have me up to their hotel suite, but no one
Speaker 1: was going to offer me a job. White olympians appeared
Speaker 1: in movies or were paid to promote products. Black athletes
Speaker 1: like Jesse, However, a few such opportunities. He later said,
Speaker 1: people said an Olympic champion should not race a horse,
Speaker 1: but it can't eat four gold medals, and that's true
Speaker 1: or false? True? True, true or false? That was a
Speaker 1: great round, everybody. I'd say, we all learned a lot.
Speaker 1: And next up is next up is um cut? Next
Speaker 1: we have Elliott? What's up? Be that gust of wind
Speaker 1: scattered my script everywhere? I'm not sure what's next. Well,
Speaker 1: there's something you don't usually see indoors my bad. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that, Jesse. Always that's right courtesy of the Who
Speaker 1: was that? Who? You want to be somewhere? Best? You need?
Speaker 1: What brings you to the show? Jesse? Well my ears
Speaker 1: were burning? Oh because you knew we were talking about
Speaker 1: you on the show. No, it was because I was
Speaker 1: running so fast. It happens every now and then. So
Speaker 1: I ran to the fire department, as I do. But
Speaker 1: I oways shot by a few blocks. Also happens every
Speaker 1: now and then. And here I am, which does remind me.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't happen to have a bottle of water on you?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, Here take mine. Oh I appreciate you,
Speaker 1: that's the stuff. I'm sorry I used up all your
Speaker 1: water on my ears. Be right back here you go.
Speaker 1: Not necessary? Oh wow, and it's still so cold? Oh thanks?
Speaker 1: Wow wow wow wow. No wonder you could outrun a
Speaker 1: horse made two grand on that stunt. Hey, can I
Speaker 1: ask you a question? I'd be happy to give you
Speaker 1: an answer. Could you outren a card? I'm sure he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to just answer. Depends on the car Afford fusion. Sure, okay,
Speaker 1: what about what about a Lamborghini? But I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: just got a little excited. Just because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ask the question doesn't mean I didn't want to
Speaker 1: know the answer to the question. Oh absolutely, but i'd
Speaker 1: break a sweat. Okay, what about a BMW? I could,
Speaker 1: but I don't need to beat up on Germany again.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, what a balance. Let me simplify this for you.
Speaker 1: Here is a list of everything I can out run. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's hold on, it's going the longest paper I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Let me just give you a sample here. I cannot
Speaker 1: run the fox and not this spread of chickenpox and
Speaker 1: a pair of feet wearing sandals. Oh, I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna say socks. Now why would you think that?
Speaker 1: Because it rhymes with all the other words you listed? Huh,
Speaker 1: I guess so. But this is a list, not a poem.
Speaker 1: That may I continue? Oh? Please, thank you? I cannot
Speaker 1: run a beagle, an eagle, a quick paralegal, and the
Speaker 1: queen who looks really regal fancy Elliott, I appreciate you
Speaker 1: and all, but this is a long list here, so apologies,
Speaker 1: Mr Owens, please continue. Elliott, please just let him read
Speaker 1: the list. I'm trying, but the rhymes are right there.
Speaker 1: She's our just I cannot run a whale, a quail,
Speaker 1: both Chip and Dell in the boat that comes with
Speaker 1: us motor. I can out run a breeze, a sneeze,
Speaker 1: a big swarm of these, and the mouse running for something.
Speaker 1: Peanut butter. Nice love peanut butter. Of course they do
Speaker 1: they sure do you know. It's been fun talking to
Speaker 1: you both, but I better get going. I'll leave the
Speaker 1: list hand and you can read through it on your
Speaker 1: own time. Thanks for having me, and thanks to the
Speaker 1: who was that? Who? Nice guy? And hey look it
Speaker 1: says here he can out run a hair, a mare,
Speaker 1: a big grizzly bear and the famous French author Proust
Speaker 1: No voltaire, Elliott it rides Okay, I definitely need a break. Eric,
Speaker 1: would you please play us some track and field music please?
Speaker 1: Running and jumping? Well, come back to the Who Was podcast?
Speaker 1: Today we're learning lest Roberto Clementa and was Jesse Owens?
Speaker 1: Now back to your host, Elliot Kalen. Thank you be.
Speaker 1: Now let's make like Jesse Owens and run over to
Speaker 1: producer Jane with the scores. Hello, Elliott and b I've
Speaker 1: got to tell you Bryce has raced ahead with two
Speaker 1: points to Lucas No point. Yet, that's right, still early
Speaker 1: in the game. Is still a close game. But before
Speaker 1: we get to the next game, and I like to
Speaker 1: say the word game instead of a lot, let's find
Speaker 1: out who was Roberto Clemente with four fast facts. Roberto
Speaker 1: Clemente was born in nineteen thirty four in Puerto Rico
Speaker 1: and died in nineteen seventy two. Roberto Clemente was signed
Speaker 1: to the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team when he was just
Speaker 1: twenty years old, and was drafted by the Pittsburgh Pirates
Speaker 1: the following year. He'd played for the Pirates for many years.
Speaker 1: Roberto Clemente won four National League batting titles, competed in
Speaker 1: two World Series with the Pittsburgh Pirates, and was named
Speaker 1: the greatest right fielder of all time. Roberto Clemente was
Speaker 1: elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in nineteen two.
Speaker 1: And now it's time for our next game. That's right,
Speaker 1: we'll be playing hashtag history. Hashtag history, hashtag history, hashtag history,
Speaker 1: hashtag history. Okay, contestants in this game, B will read
Speaker 1: you a hashtag Roberto Clemente might have used on his
Speaker 1: social media if they had social media when he was alive.
Speaker 1: And you will tell us what it's about. And since
Speaker 1: this is our second round, each question is worth two points. B.
Speaker 1: If you would please begin, Luca, this first question is
Speaker 1: for you. The first hashtag is hashtag my commute. Would
Speaker 1: Roberto use that hashtag because A he loved returning to
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico in the off season or be he loved
Speaker 1: car pooling with his teammates A. That's right. The answer
Speaker 1: is A. Roberto would play baseball in Pittsburgh in the
Speaker 1: summer and return home to Puerto Rico where it was
Speaker 1: still warm, and played baseball in the winter. But that
Speaker 1: isn't the only reason would return home. Roberto was homesick
Speaker 1: while living in Pittsburgh. He missed his friends and family,
Speaker 1: and it was difficult for him to get to know
Speaker 1: his new teammates on the Pittsburgh Pirates as he was
Speaker 1: still learning to speak English. Bryce. This next hashtag is
Speaker 1: for you, all right, Bryce. This hashtag is hashtag baseball fever.
Speaker 1: Would Roberto use that hashtag because A. Once Roberto caught
Speaker 1: the flu from an improperly cleaned baseball bat or be
Speaker 1: Growing up, Roberto played baseball every single moment he could B.
Speaker 1: That's right. The answer is be. Roberto and his friends
Speaker 1: and his brothers played baseball after school and on weekends.
Speaker 1: They even made their own gear. Roberto formed baseballs by
Speaker 1: wrapping old socks or rags very tightly with string, then
Speaker 1: sowing a piece of cloth over the socks. He once
Speaker 1: played a seven and a half hour game with his
Speaker 1: friends where he hit ten whole runs. Roberto's mother, Luisa,
Speaker 1: worried about his love of baseball, saying there were times
Speaker 1: he was so much in love with baseball that he
Speaker 1: didn't even care for food. Luca, here's the next hashtag
Speaker 1: for you. The next hashtag is hashtag pitch in and help.
Speaker 1: Would Roberto use that hashtag because A he was a
Speaker 1: star pitcher who always helped win games. Or be. From
Speaker 1: the time he was a boy, he was known as
Speaker 1: someone who was always willing to help out. B. That's right,
Speaker 1: The answer is be. Roberto enjoyed helping people and helped
Speaker 1: his community from an early age. When he was fourteen,
Speaker 1: he crossed a dangerous highway to put an injured person
Speaker 1: from a fiery car accident. As an adult, he led
Speaker 1: baseball clinics and visited kids in hospitals. He was important
Speaker 1: to him to help young baseball players in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: Roberto once said, if you have a chance to accomplish
Speaker 1: something that will make things better for people coming behind you,
Speaker 1: and you don't, you are wasting your time on this earth. Harsh, Roberto,
Speaker 1: but fair, but very fair. Okay, Bryce, bring us to
Speaker 1: the home plate. This last one's for you. Your final
Speaker 1: hashtag is hashtag family guy. Would Roberto use that hashtag
Speaker 1: because A he had great pride and love for his
Speaker 1: wife and kids, or be he always wanted to create
Speaker 1: a successful cartoon. Ay, that's right. The answer is a.
Speaker 1: Roberto and his wife Biera had three boys, Roberto Junior,
Speaker 1: Luis Roberto, and Enrique. Roberto Junior later remembered people coming
Speaker 1: to their house all day long to meet his father,
Speaker 1: and Roberto Senior would greet each stranger. Beer said he'd
Speaker 1: even avoid other commitments to spend time with his family,
Speaker 1: and there'd be no baseball talk in the house, which
Speaker 1: was very hard because as we know, he had baseball fever.
Speaker 1: Is probably his favorite thing to talk about. And that's
Speaker 1: hashtag history. Hashtag history hashtag. Okay, we're going to take
Speaker 1: a quick break, but we'll be back with the scores
Speaker 1: and our final game. Eric, would you please play us
Speaker 1: some after school baseball music plays. It's a pastime, past time, Sally,
Speaker 1: who was there? Marie Curie? You may remember me from
Speaker 1: winning multiple Nobel prizes, or perhaps from my episode of
Speaker 1: the Worst Podcast where I played myself. I wanted to
Speaker 1: take a moment to read one of my favorite reviews
Speaker 1: about the Who Was Podcast. This is from Shaken Bay
Speaker 1: and it reads loved this Me and my little sister
Speaker 1: love this show more. Please. Our faith is Ariet Toman.
Speaker 1: If you want to hear your review right on the air,
Speaker 1: make sure to subscribe, like and review to the Worst
Speaker 1: Podcast in the I Heart Radio up or wherever you
Speaker 1: give your podcasts revoir or should I stay abbiato? Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the Who Was? Podcast. Today we're talking about
Speaker 1: Roberto Clemente and Jesse Owens. Now back to your host,
Speaker 1: Elliott Taylan. Thank you be. We've got a real nail
Speaker 1: biter of a game going, so without further ado, let's
Speaker 1: go over to Cruiser Jane, who has the latest box scores.
Speaker 1: I said box scores because of baseball Jane, real scores.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but I do know
Speaker 1: that my good pal Bryce has six points and Luca
Speaker 1: has come up from zero to four. Thank you, Jane.
Speaker 1: Still a very close game that didn't rhyme it exactly
Speaker 1: but almost so close enough but almost that. But that's
Speaker 1: good enough for me, even though it's not great. And hey,
Speaker 1: it reminds me of our final game, Converge of Greatness.
Speaker 1: And I'll just get my speech ready for when I
Speaker 1: picked up in a word for how great that segue
Speaker 1: was between the scores and the game. Now, that is
Speaker 1: what I call the home run. Thank you very much, Be,
Speaker 1: thank you. In this multiple choice game Converge of Greatness, Be,
Speaker 1: we'll read questions where are two historical figures overlap or converge?
Speaker 1: And because recovering two times the history, the game is
Speaker 1: worth three points. For each question you do the map,
Speaker 1: pick the best option as your answer. Chrice, this first
Speaker 1: question is for you, take it away. Being both Roberto
Speaker 1: Clemente and Jesse Owens traveled far from home to compete.
Speaker 1: Jesse traveled to Germany at a time when Hitler and
Speaker 1: his followers openly believed black people were less than humid.
Speaker 1: Jesse was unfortunately familiar with this backward thinking due to
Speaker 1: the racism and Jim Crow laws. He faced in America. However,
Speaker 1: when Roberto came to the mainland, leaving Puerto Rico to
Speaker 1: play baseball, he was shocked by this mainstay of American
Speaker 1: life at the time. A segregation B skyscrapers or see
Speaker 1: huge supermarkets. Ay, that's right, The answer is a. Black
Speaker 1: people and white people were not separated in Puerto Rico. However,
Speaker 1: during a trip to Virginia, Berto and his black teammates
Speaker 1: could not eat at the same restaurant as their white teammates.
Speaker 1: Under Jim Crow laws, Roberto and his black teammates were
Speaker 1: not allowed in the white hotels, golf clubs, or swimming pools.
Speaker 1: Jesse contended with racism throughout his entire career, even having
Speaker 1: to ride separate busses to his college track and field events.
Speaker 1: Jim Crow laws were enforced from eighteen seventy until about
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty five the United States. Luca, here is the
Speaker 1: next question for you, all right, Luca. Both Jesse Owens
Speaker 1: and Roberto Clemente suffered back injuries unrelated to their sports.
Speaker 1: Roberto's was due to a car accident, but Jesse's injury
Speaker 1: was due to a He was body slammed by Roman
Speaker 1: Reins b he slipped on a banana peal and hurt
Speaker 1: his back. Or see he accidentally fell down some stairs
Speaker 1: while wrestling with friends see corrects. The answer is see.
Speaker 1: A week before the nineteen thirty five Big Ten Championships,
Speaker 1: Jesse hurt his back. He was in a lot of
Speaker 1: pain and thought he might not be able to compete.
Speaker 1: His coach did not want him to run injured and
Speaker 1: put his future in danger, but Jesse worked all week
Speaker 1: with the team trainers to get better. Jesse, still in
Speaker 1: great pain, decided to compete. He completed the one hundred
Speaker 1: yard dash in nine point four seconds and tie the
Speaker 1: world record set. Despite this incredible story, you should still
Speaker 1: not horseplay in the house. I can't. I just can't
Speaker 1: say it enough. No horseplay indoors. Safety First, you don't
Speaker 1: want to You don't want to knock over the coffee too. Rice,
Speaker 1: you know the drill your questions next. Both Roberto Clemente
Speaker 1: and Jesse Owens one gold in their respective careers. Jesse,
Speaker 1: of course, one gold at the Olympics, and Roberto's gold
Speaker 1: came in the form of a thousands of coins that
Speaker 1: he liked to swim around in be the Baseball Award
Speaker 1: the gold Glove or see straw that he spun into gold.
Speaker 1: B that's right. The answer is be. After the nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty one season, Roberto won the Gold Glove, an award
Speaker 1: given to baseball players for fielding excellence. Players and coaches
Speaker 1: vote to choose the best player at each position in
Speaker 1: the league. Roberto would go on to win the Gold
Speaker 1: Glove every season after that. His career total of twelve
Speaker 1: gold Gloves is still tied with William May's for the
Speaker 1: most among outfielders. Luca, here's the last one. Both Roberto
Speaker 1: Clemente and Jesse Owens both had reactions to the civil
Speaker 1: rights movement of the nineteen sixties. Roberto followed the civil
Speaker 1: rights movement closely, spending time with Dr Martin Luther King Jr.
Speaker 1: Homed He greatly admired Jesse appreciated what people like Dr
Speaker 1: King we're doing, but initially felt that A. There should
Speaker 1: be more protests. Be there should be more aggressive protests,
Speaker 1: or see that protest wasn't the way to change things.
Speaker 1: See that's right. The answer is see. Jesse believed in
Speaker 1: making life better for black people, but he did not
Speaker 1: agree with protests. He didn't want to rock the vote.
Speaker 1: He wanted to live his life as best he could.
Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy, Jesse corrode a book called Black Thing.
Speaker 1: He wrote that he believed that are you in protesting
Speaker 1: were not the answers to America's problems with Ray, but
Speaker 1: hearing from other black people changed his mind. Two years later,
Speaker 1: he wrote another book called I Am Changed. In it,
Speaker 1: he apologized for Black Thing as he came to a
Speaker 1: better understanding of the civil rights movement more clearly. And
Speaker 1: that's converge of greatness. The end of that game means,
Speaker 1: it's just about the end of the show. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm sad about it too. While Jane talies the score,
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from our contestants. What was something
Speaker 1: you were surprised to learn about? Either Rotal Clemente or
Speaker 1: Jesse Owens Price. What surprised you? The veral quarantine? One
Speaker 1: twelve golden globes. That's so many, right, That's more than
Speaker 1: you can fit on a shelf. You've got to put
Speaker 1: extra shelves in your house to hold those. And also
Speaker 1: that he wanted like every year, and they had to
Speaker 1: vote for him every year, so it was like every
Speaker 1: year they were like, no, this guy just keeps getting better.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. And the hard part then, though, is that
Speaker 1: you've got to play the game next season and wearing
Speaker 1: a gold glove which is very heavy and it's hard
Speaker 1: to move around your hand in it. But that's also
Speaker 1: why he was so strong. Oh yeah, it makes well,
Speaker 1: that's like, it makes you even better, unless I'm misunderstanding
Speaker 1: something about baseball, which seems impossible. Luca, what surprised you
Speaker 1: about either of our historical figures That Jesse Owens raised
Speaker 1: a horse. It's a wild right, Yeah, it's really And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had the same reaction I
Speaker 1: did when I first hear that, I'm like, whoa, that's amazing,
Speaker 1: But then realizing that he had to do it because
Speaker 1: he was having trouble finding work that he thought he
Speaker 1: was gonna get, it actually becomes kind of sad. So
Speaker 1: it's something that sounds a little funny at first, but
Speaker 1: then you you dig into it at it and you
Speaker 1: realize he shouldn't have had to raise that horse. Although
Speaker 1: the name of the horse being Julio McCaw, that's a
Speaker 1: great name for a hole. Yeah, it's a great name
Speaker 1: for a horse. It's a great name for parrot. A parrot.
Speaker 1: But also I also love the I mean, he was
Speaker 1: very matter of fact about it. He was like, look,
Speaker 1: I can't eat four gold medals. And I think that
Speaker 1: that was something that was really great about him was
Speaker 1: that he was just like, I'm not apologizing for is
Speaker 1: this is this is not my problem. It's a problem
Speaker 1: with the way the world was working. So yeah, but
Speaker 1: that was pretty pretty wild. Thank you both for sharing
Speaker 1: those surprises. And now it's time for the big moment. Jane,
Speaker 1: will you please announce our winner? I sure we'll announce
Speaker 1: the winner. It was such a close game. Luke ahead
Speaker 1: ten points, but Price jump ahead with twelve, so Bryce
Speaker 1: is our winer. Congratulations Bryce, and congratulations Louply. You played
Speaker 1: a great game. Should both be very proud of how
Speaker 1: you did. Brice as our winner, you have ten seconds
Speaker 1: for shoutouts, go for it. Who would you like to
Speaker 1: thank for getting you to the winner's podium? All my friends,
Speaker 1: ninal butts are my parents. It's wonderful. Yeah, that's really nice.
Speaker 1: I think that covers everybody our winner and their library
Speaker 1: of choice, where we receiving a selection of who was books,
Speaker 1: And I'm going to give my own shout out to
Speaker 1: intern Zach, Jane, Eric and Eric Austen for being our
Speaker 1: Jesse Owens be and a big thank you to both
Speaker 1: of our contestants for playing an amazing game, and of
Speaker 1: course the law just Gold Medalist. Thank you of all
Speaker 1: to you the listener and listening to the show. Join
Speaker 1: us again next week as we find out who Was.
Speaker 1: Two more amazing figures from history. I want to find
Speaker 1: out who is gonna pay for BRender? Elliott, we gotta
Speaker 1: go within me. Let's get out of here. Until then,
Speaker 1: this is Elliott Mice Love Peanut Butter Calin saying we
Speaker 1: are history. Goodbye, folks. Come on, Gerald, Deane get running.
Speaker 1: Got a question for any of our famous figures? Or
Speaker 1: do you want to be a contestant? Send us a
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Speaker 1: was hosted by Elliott Klin with co host Megan O'Neill
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