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Speaker 1: to the Who Was? Podcast. This show is like Jeopardy,

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Speaker 1: Hey Elliott, check out this book. Okay, it's due in

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Speaker 1: Today we're discussing two sporty gents, Roberto Clemente and Jesse Owens.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to know them, let's get to

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Speaker 1: know our contestants. Alright. First up, we have Fryce Frice.

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Speaker 1: Please introduce yourself. Which Bryce, I like to play basketball.

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Speaker 1: Today we're learning lest Roberto Clementa and was Jesse Owens?

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Speaker 1: back to the Who Was? Podcast. Today we're talking about

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