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Speaker 9: Because the great strength of our civil military relations what's

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Speaker 4: Kelly is the is the Trump administrator showing some contempt

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Speaker 4: He's doubling down. Go to Article three project right now

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Speaker 4: Julie, where do people go for your substack? Where they

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Speaker 4: go for your social media accounts? You are on fire, ma'am,

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Speaker 11: Thanks Steve, Thanks for having me on Declassified with Julie

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Speaker 4: Thank you, ma'am, appreciate you. Thanks Okay, I said earlier today,

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Speaker 4: But you've got to get in and do the wet work.

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Speaker 4: Ivan Reichland joins us. Now he and General Flynn are

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Speaker 8: Sir, Yes, I mean you nailed it on the head yesterday.

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Speaker 4: They don't ask a court.

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Speaker 8: To and they don't pontificate and ask themselves. Hmm. I

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Speaker 8: going to allow us to conduct treason. No, they actually

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Speaker 4: We're going to go ahead and file.

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Speaker 8: For example, the US Attorney for the District of Colorado,

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Speaker 8: I believe it's Peter McNeely, he can go ahead and

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Speaker 8: file federal criminal charges against Jenna Griswold for her violation

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Speaker 4: But hang but hang the rate, but hang on, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 4: Before we get to the raid, let's go back to

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Speaker 4: charging her. You and General Flynn propose the information that

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Speaker 8: Sir, So, Mike Lindell and his attorney at the time,

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Speaker 8: That excuse me, that Tina Peters could be a federal

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Speaker 4: Okay, hang skipped, hang loft over that. Hang but but no,

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 4: If memory serves me correctly, Ivan kurt Olsen is now

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Speaker 4: I think OVERDB reporting, I think to Susie, I think

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Speaker 4: This is what a party is for the president to

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Speaker 4: get to the bottom of this. So have you to

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Speaker 8: There's no one better position to expose the evidence of

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Speaker 8: the twenty twenty electoral heist in the entire country, as

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Speaker 8: well as the twenty twenty two electoral heightst in Arizona

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Speaker 8: as it relates to Kerry Lake, then Kurt Olsen. He's

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Speaker 8: represented as far as I understand, the President, Mike Lindell

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Speaker 8: in those lawsuits as well as Carrie Lake. So This

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Speaker 8: is an absolutely fantastic pick of the number one draft

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Speaker 8: pick for the president to pick to be able to

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Speaker 8: expose this. Additionally, he has years of experience exposing the

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Speaker 8: Colorado component in Mesa County. Just to contextualize, She's Tina

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Speaker 8: Peters was the only county official of the thirty one

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Speaker 8: hundred plus counties and county equivalents throughout the United States

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Speaker 8: to actually have the courage to expose, research, identify, and

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Speaker 8: then expose the illegal activities of the machines in her

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Speaker 8: county's twenty twenty election the federal election.

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Speaker 4: Component of it.

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Speaker 8: And so that's why she would be the most compelling

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Speaker 8: witness of anybody in the country. Uh to go ahead,

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Speaker 8: and Ivan moved the criminality of Jenet grisbold.

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Speaker 4: It'd be amazing. I want Grace put up his General

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Speaker 4: Flint's tweet. I'll have you back right after the holidays.

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Speaker 4: Ivan to go through this some more. But I think

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Speaker 4: you've laid out a pattern. You just got to get

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Speaker 4: Christal nice together out for Thanksgiving. Though that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: I think it's very remote. I mean realistically, and I

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Speaker 4: talk to these people every day. We got to get

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Speaker 4: her out though, Ivan. Uh, where do people go? What's

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Speaker 4: your social media? Your Twitter? Where do people go to

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Speaker 4: follow you?

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Speaker 8: I'm on AX as long as your buddy Elon Musk

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Speaker 8: allows me.

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Speaker 4: But other than that, substack as well as rumble, Ivan

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Speaker 4: with a heckle, Ivan with a heckle, brother, have a

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Speaker 4: great Thanksgiving. Love you. You know the guy Ivan Ivan

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Speaker 4: was outside Federal Court every day that I was there.

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Speaker 4: He is a warrior and a patriot. Short commercial break

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Speaker 4: back in the warm in a moment, here's.

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Speaker 7: Your host, Stephen k ban.

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Speaker 4: Okay Ivan's idea. I'd like it a lot Directionally. I

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Speaker 4: want everybody to read that of Grayson Mo. If you

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Speaker 4: can push that out, let's be a force multiplier. This

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Speaker 4: got to get on top of this. And like I said,

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Speaker 4: Kurt Olsen, you guys know Kurt. We've had Kurt on

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Speaker 4: one hundred times during the during the Big Steal. He

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Speaker 4: knows it's better than anybody. He's at the White House.

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Speaker 4: He's Special Assistant for Election Integrity and reviewing the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty in the twenty twenty two elections, So right there,

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Speaker 4: you just plug and play and let's get on with it.

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Speaker 4: Birch Gole turbulent, turbulent, turbulent markets, particularly crypto and anything

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Speaker 4: We're not here to sell your fish, here to teach

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Speaker 4: you how to fish for yourself. So go do it,

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Speaker 4: Birch Gold, the team, Philip Patrick and the team do

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Speaker 4: it today. Joe Allen, we have a cold open. They

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Speaker 4: sign an executive order and they did it with closed press.

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Speaker 4: The Muslim Brotherhood has a few kinks in it. Laura

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Speaker 4: Loomer is going to join us tomorrow. Alex Jones is

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Speaker 4: going to join us. Tomorrow, Lara's going to walk through

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Speaker 4: the the EO on the Muslim Brotherhood. Why it has

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Speaker 4: a few air pockets and it needs to be kind

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Speaker 4: of reconciled. It's a start, it's a historic start, but

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Speaker 4: we got to close. We gotta we got to stick

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Speaker 4: the landing on the Muslim Brotherhood. Also, artificial intelligence. I've

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Speaker 4: warned you about the weapons LAF They did it. They

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Speaker 4: did AI and it was closed press. I'm not. I

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Speaker 4: don't know why, but we're going to get to the

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Speaker 4: bottom of it. Let's play the cold open.

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Speaker 12: The Trump administration is pushing to expand AI and federal

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Speaker 12: scientific research. Yesterday, President Trump signed an executive order launching

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Speaker 12: the Genesis Mission. The plan allows Department of Energy and

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Speaker 12: national labs to use AI while partnering with tech companies

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Speaker 12: and universities.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, he signed an executive order related to what's called

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Speaker 16: the now Genesis Mission. It brings together all of the

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Speaker 16: seventeen federal labs under the Department of Energy and partners

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Speaker 16: them with private companies and supercharges all of these projects

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Speaker 16: with artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 17: This is a one place in the world where you

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Speaker 17: can bring together biological data and national security data. Data

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Speaker 17: for material science, for chemistry, all in one place, under

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Speaker 17: one roof, where you can train models to accelerate scientific discovery.

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Speaker 14: So knowledge grows faster than our ability to understand it.

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Speaker 14: Trillions of data points, universe of information still unconnected. Now

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Speaker 14: a new instrument emerges when capable not only of observing

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Speaker 14: the universe, but of understanding it. Genesis Mission will transform

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Speaker 14: how science is done in America. Uniting our brightest minds,

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Speaker 14: most powerful computers, and vast scientific data into one living

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Speaker 14: system for discovery built on artificial intelligence and quantum computing,

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Speaker 14: you will radically redefine the scale, speed, and purpose of

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Speaker 14: scientific progress in America.

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Speaker 4: Look, I understand the sciencefic process. We're all for what

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Speaker 4: we want to do it. But I don't know why

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Speaker 4: we're selling chips to the advanced chips of the Chinese.

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Speaker 4: And you got the arms dealer Jensen Wong, and you

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Speaker 4: got Lutnik in his crowd that are trying to force

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Speaker 4: to sell these chips. If we don't, we're not in

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Speaker 4: arms race. We'relling in the arms race. If we want

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Speaker 4: to be in arms race, we don't have to sell

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Speaker 4: them any arms none. How about this? How about zero

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Speaker 4: for the chain cameras party. Now let's get to the

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Speaker 4: weapons labs. Joe Allen succinctly tell me, because this kind

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Speaker 4: of scares me. One living organism that's going to know

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Speaker 4: all and be all, what are we doing here, sir

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Speaker 4: well Steve.

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Speaker 18: Yesterday President Trump signed the Executive Order to launch the

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Speaker 18: Genesis Mission. Aside from the symbolic undertones of the name Genesis,

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Speaker 18: this is under the Department of Energy, and it's being

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Speaker 18: hailed as a kind of Manhattan Project for AI acceleration

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Speaker 18: in the sciences. The ultimate objective is to create scientific

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Speaker 18: foundation models AIS that are specifically trained on what have

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Speaker 18: previously been kind of cloistered and unpublished data sets and

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Speaker 18: studies under the Department of Energy, so the seventeen national

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Speaker 18: Laboratories will open up their data sets to train artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 18: And the objective too is to have AI agents that

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Speaker 18: can run autonomously to conduct experiments, and presumably they share

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Speaker 18: many of the ambitions of the Frontier labs. They would

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Speaker 18: eventually have AIS that perhaps could formulate novel hypotheses. Now

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Speaker 18: underneath this is that you have five basic objectives. To

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Speaker 18: accelerate biotechnology, to accelerate materials development, to accelerate semiconductor production

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Speaker 18: and deployment, and also to accelerate quantum computing and nuclear technology.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, that last time I looked, those five were

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Speaker 4: kind of a variation of the of the Chinese communist parties,

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Speaker 4: you know, twenty twenty manufacturing, twenty twenty five. The ten

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Speaker 4: are close to it to drive you to a thing

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Speaker 4: called the singularity, do they.

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Speaker 18: Not, sir, Yes, absolutely. I mean this is right now,

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Speaker 18: very much in the nascent phase. For the first ninety days,

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Speaker 18: they'll simply be assessing what hardware, what computing facilities are relevant,

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Speaker 18: beyond that the software, But within a year they intend

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Speaker 18: to have fully autonomous experiments being run under the system. Now,

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Speaker 18: this is already happening in the private sector, Steve. I'll

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Speaker 18: give you one really good example, Ginko Bioworks, who was

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Speaker 18: Ginko Bioworks runs biofoundries, right, So you have these foundries

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Speaker 18: that basically run autonomously mutating microbes and assessing whether or

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Speaker 18: not the mutations are effective and whatnot. Some of these

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Speaker 18: biofoundries are right now under the direction of GPT five.

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Speaker 18: So you already have this integration of artificial intelligence with

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Speaker 18: autonomous laboratories that are conducting experiments. What the Genesis mission

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Speaker 18: would ultimately yield would be that across all of the

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Speaker 18: different sectors I just mentioned in a lot relating to

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Speaker 18: of course national security and weapons.

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Speaker 4: Okay, in those ninety days. What I would propose and

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Speaker 4: we'll we'll stick our nose in this is we come

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Speaker 4: up with the equity package. You the citizens of the

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Speaker 4: United States own those The government of the United States

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Speaker 4: owns those weapons labs, some of the most famous labs

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Speaker 4: in the world, the National Labs, I call them. Now,

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Speaker 4: if we're going to do all this, I like to

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Speaker 4: know what we're actually paying for, and these guys own

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Speaker 4: the equay. We have to have an equity package. I'm

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Speaker 4: a toss out there just as an initial idea for

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Speaker 4: David Sachs and Mark and recently get their arms around.

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Speaker 4: Fifty percent. We own fifty percent of every one of

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Speaker 4: the AI companies. The American citizens on them. And I

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Speaker 4: don't mean the government, I mean the shares get popped

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Speaker 4: out to the American citizens because once again, once again

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Speaker 4: they remember they came up with this labs thing. Immediately

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Speaker 4: when the Chinese did deep Seek and they go, oh

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Speaker 4: my god, it's a Spotnik moment. We're in an arms

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Speaker 4: race with the Chinese counties party. So what do we do?

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Speaker 4: We sell them as many advanced chips as possible, or

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Speaker 4: give them to the UAE so they can they can

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Speaker 4: be a wholesaler and then resell them. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: no no, no no. We got to understand this entire cycle.

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Speaker 4: The American people are being asked to secure debt, the

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Speaker 4: American people being asked to give access to their weapons

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Speaker 4: labs to train these Hey, that's fine, maybe it's good

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Speaker 4: it it sounds like a wonderful thing. What's the payment

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Speaker 4: to the American people? American citizens own how much equity?

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Speaker 4: So in the ninety days they assess assess what the

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Speaker 4: ownership of the American people. In the opening bit is

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Speaker 4: fifty percent. Joe, we got to bounce. You're gonna be

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Speaker 4: with us a lot. Tell us where people go to

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Speaker 4: get your get to all your information on Joe Biden.

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Speaker 18: Well, I tell you, Steve, I couldn't agree more as

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Speaker 18: far as the fifty percent equity for American people. This

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Speaker 18: emphasis on the machine should definitely be shared by or

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Speaker 18: redirected towards human beings, as in human Americans. I would

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Speaker 18: actually just direct the audience to Frontier magazine.

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Speaker 4: By chance.

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Speaker 18: I have an article in Frontier which goes into the

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Speaker 18: history of the nuclear project, the Manhattan Project near my hometown, Oakridge, Tennessee.

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Speaker 18: I'm from near there. The title is how my Hometown

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Speaker 18: Got you Genocized? And you can see it's a print magazine.

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Speaker 18: It's absolutely beautiful. Ben Braddeck here with a cover story

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Speaker 18: his trip.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the one that ken Beck and his

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Speaker 4: team over the Blaze started. Is that it is that Frontier.

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Speaker 18: Yes, Peter Gitle is the executive editor, and James Pulos

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Speaker 18: of course is involved. Ben Braddock with the cover story,

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Speaker 18: and they invited me to write about how my hometown

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Speaker 18: got wrecked by the technological revolution. So you can actually

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Speaker 18: find a link right at the top of my social

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Speaker 18: media at j Oe b O t X y Z.

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Speaker 18: And if you still love print culture posse, this is

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Speaker 18: a beautiful, beautiful edition Volume five, Volume four.

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Speaker 4: No, no, we we love magazines. We talk about maggots

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Speaker 4: creating a being, you know, creating art and creating uh

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Speaker 4: uh you know these alternative medias go check this out

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Speaker 4: right now where they go to Frontier just to check

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Speaker 4: out the entire magazine, because I want people to do that.

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Speaker 4: It's really a spectacular effort.

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Speaker 18: Because it's a kind of a convoluted link. I don't

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Speaker 18: you go to my social media at Joe b O,

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Speaker 18: it in digital form. But again I really recommend get

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Speaker 18: the print. Addition, so many excellent articles in here, so

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Speaker 18: many great photographs.

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Speaker 4: Brother, love you. Look, I'll talk to you tonight, hopefully

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Speaker 4: get you back on tomorrow, maybe before you take off.

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Speaker 4: Joe Allen, d Joe Allen, thank you. The Genesis mission, okay,

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Speaker 4: I get the symbolism. Also about the singularity, I get

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Speaker 4: up the money. Raymond Ibraham my favorite. Now, brother, it's

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Speaker 4: a three book series. You've been with us since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: since we started the show with your first book, Sword

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Speaker 4: and Scimitar. Then you came out with the classic I

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Speaker 4: Swords of Christ. Talk to us today, particularly, I had

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Speaker 4: executive order signed yesterday. You're an expert on the Muslim brotherhood,

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Speaker 13: Yeah, absolutely, Steve, That's exactly what it's about. I think

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Speaker 13: the important point of The Two Swords of Christ, the

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Speaker 13: Swords of Christ the verse where the disciples after Christ

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Speaker 13: tells them sell your cloak and buy a garment, he

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Speaker 13: here are two swords. And he says, that's enough. Now,

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Speaker 13: according to modern day Christian theologians, that verse means absolutely

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Speaker 13: But for the medieval Christians, and especially the Crusaders, it

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Speaker 13: actually meant that there are two swords to be used

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Speaker 13: against two sorts of evil, spiritual evil, which modern day

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Speaker 13: human evil, human agency. And so that's how they understood it,

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Speaker 13: and that's why I think it's ironic and people will

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Speaker 13: that it actually this logic actually showed you how the

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Speaker 13: most pious men, these men were monks essentially, Okay, we're

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Speaker 13: also the most militant at the same time, and there

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Speaker 13: was no contradiction between the twain in their minds because

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Speaker 13: they understood that what they were doing was in defense

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Speaker 13: I think it's going to be a very different take

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Speaker 13: see that. No, you actually had these extremely pious religious

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Speaker 13: Christian men who were also more militant than any other

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Speaker 4: but they make history present right now. We just designate

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Speaker 4: Weren't a fight now as you known of chronicled. They

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Speaker 4: And two warrior monk orders from I don't know a

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Speaker 13: Without the church militants, Christianity would have died out a

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Speaker 13: long time ago. And you know, I have a quote,

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Speaker 13: who says exactly that he says. He basically says, if

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Speaker 13: the Europeans, the Christians of Europe, had not fought back.

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Speaker 13: He specifically names the Muslims, and he names all the

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Speaker 13: long centuries Christianity would have been snuffed out. And that's

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Speaker 13: what most modern day Christians don't realize, especially those who

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Speaker 13: sort of you know, pooh pooh the modern day Crusaders

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Speaker 13: If it wasn't for all the blood that they'd spill

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Speaker 13: on behalf of Christendom, there would be no Christianity, to

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Speaker 13: you realize that three quarters of the Christian world was

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Speaker 13: And I'm speaking of course of the older, richer, more

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Speaker 13: continued centur after century. And so that's what gave rise.

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Speaker 13: You know, these people weren't militants by nature. They really

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Speaker 13: like they were monks. Think about the hospitallers, for example.

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Speaker 13: Their whole life was to be hospice workers and serving

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Speaker 13: pilgrims and helping them and taking care of their medical

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Speaker 13: at the same time they also learned that the only

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Speaker 13: way to really help the pilgrims was to go on

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Speaker 13: which is an Islamic attack on these pilgrims who were

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Speaker 13: coming to Europe. So they had no problem wedding. You know,

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Speaker 13: Christian theology with Miancy and not just them. Actually this

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Speaker 13: goes all the way back, remember to Augustine and so

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Speaker 13: many other I quote a lot extensively, Saint Bernard of Clervaux,

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Speaker 13: who's really the spiritual father of all military orders, and

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Speaker 13: shows you the militancy behind that. And it's not just

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Speaker 13: the Old Testament, by the way, as we saw with

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Speaker 13: the two sorts of Christ and Luke. So I think

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Speaker 13: if modern day Christians, like I said, I call them dormats.

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Speaker 13: And of course Christianity is teaches love and peace and

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Speaker 13: forgiveness and tolerance, but it's being pulled out of context

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Speaker 13: as if that's all there is to it. What's great

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Speaker 13: about Christianity. Christianity is that is that it tempered violence,

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Speaker 13: but it's still kept you know, the necessary forms of

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Speaker 13: of course fused into what we know as chivalry, and

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Speaker 13: that's what made it really great. But now we have

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Speaker 13: this kind of mood where oh, you can't do anything,

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm announcing we're going to do a complete hour

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Speaker 4: with Raymond to go through his whole three part arc

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Speaker 4: attention to the military orders the Two Swords of Christy.

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Speaker 4: Where they go to order it right now, Raymond, where

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Speaker 4: order your books, Thanks Steve.

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Speaker 19: Well.

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Speaker 13: You can get it on Amazon. Today's the release date actually,

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Speaker 13: so they can if they order it now, probably on

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Speaker 4: My imagine.

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Speaker 13: I doubt Barnes and Nobles is going to have it,

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Speaker 13: Raymond debrahem dot com has links to various books and

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Speaker 13: you can also get signed copies from there.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do an hour special with Raymond next week.

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Speaker 4: Raymond Abraham, thank you, thank you so much. Brother, appreciate

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