1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: your bets. It is be Joey p joe Pisapia and 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: this is BP NFL. We're looking at the best bets 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: for week fifteen. All the teams are back playing, and 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: all the best players are back here as well. Andrew Ericson, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Terrell Furman Junior here to help you with the best 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: bets for the week. Should be a fun one. We've 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: got some lines that are well, pretty large if you're 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: looking at say the Giants and Ravens. You've got some 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: ones that are pretty tight and some that I think 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: are just flat out wrong. And we'll get to all 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: of them. Baby, We're gonna get to all of them. 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: Before we do. Just a quick reminder, don't forget to 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: download the Betting Pros app sink your sportsbooks for free 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: and utilize all the tools, including a couple free days 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: of the premium tools that we have available. So dip 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: your toes in the water of wagering. That's nice alliteration. 18 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna keep that for some other shows. And 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: of course don't forget to check out all the VP 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: interactive tools that you could find out there. To help 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: you start betting smarter, not harder. Gentlemen's Week fifteen. We've 22 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: got some playoff field kind of games going on here, 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: but I want to start here with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Becauseterrell. 24 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: You always say it, it's always Mike Tomlin as an underdog. 25 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: You love Mike Tomlin as an underdog. He's on the road. 26 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: It's plus five and a half. But no George Pickens 27 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: gives me pause. Make me feel better about the Steelers 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: versus the Eagles this week. 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: No Pickens, no problem. It doesn't matter. Tomlin has gone 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: out there in won games with the way worse staffs. 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 2: This is all you need. All you need is Mike Tomlin. 32 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: You need him to be an underdog, and you need CJ. Watt. 33 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: As long as you have those three things, you are 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: always good. It doesn't matter what else who else is 35 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: out there. We've seen Duck Hodges, We've seen Mason Rudolph 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: can't even beat Will Levis for the starting job. And 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Will Levis is throwing to the other team. He's throwing 38 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: to the other team, and he can't beat him for 39 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: the starting job because Tomlin made him better. It doesn't matter. 40 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: He's reinvigorated Russ and Russ actually is Russ not corny anymore? 41 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Russ is going out here, they're beating the Commanders. 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 2: He's doing the Antonio Brown dance, and like, this team 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: is different. Look at hard knocks. Look how this team 44 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: gets behind them. How do you feed this Tomlin team? 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 2: They are completely locked in. And I think this is 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: another spot where, hey, they're looking at this Philadelphia Eagles team. 47 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: It's a little crosstown rivalry here. It's going to be 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people at the game. Steelers Nation is 49 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: going to be everywhere. I think that it's a fifty 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: to fifty split in the crowd. And this Eagles team 51 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: just has a bunch of turmoil going on on the inside. 52 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: They're trying to figure out why they're not better, why 53 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: are they not covering these lines. If you look at 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: the Eagles this season as a home favorite of more 55 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 2: than three and a half points, they're one in four ats. 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: They cannot handle business when they're supposed to handle business. 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: And so I think this is a spot where I'm 58 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: fading them. I'm trusting the system. I'm trusting the system. 59 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: I'm trusting the system. Tomlin as a dog you taking 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: no matter. 61 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: What I mean, I think five and a half is 62 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 3: too many points. Plus five and a half, that's the 63 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: number that we're getting with Mike Tomlin on the road 64 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: as an underdog, which you should just basically take them 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: on the money line right at this point. They just 66 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: based on his track record eight and six on the 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: road against the spread money line, they're eight and six 68 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 3: on the road. So I mean, if you really want 69 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: a fat pay day, you're just looking at Steelers went 70 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: out right because they've done this act before. When the 71 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: backs against the wall, Oh they don't have George Pickens, Well, 72 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: I mean George Pickens was gonna have a tough match 73 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: up anyway. And if anything, I was impressed a lot 74 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 3: by what I saw from Mike Williams last week. He's 75 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: getting more integrated into this offense. It just takes one 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: moon ball from h Russell Wilson to kind of change 77 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: the tides of the game. Williams like Big Mike, and 78 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: the thing with Big Mike and why I'm not like 79 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 3: overly concerned about Oh well, it's like tough cornerbacks Erickson. Well, 80 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: Mike Williams is gonna be covered anyway. Like he's not 81 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: a separator, but he can just go up and snag 82 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: the ball in the air. So that's why I like 83 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: Mike Williams is kind of like an underrated X factor 84 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: in this matchup. I know, Joe, you talked about earlier 85 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: in some shows about maybe a little bit more justin 86 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 3: fields in this game. How do the Eagles respond to 87 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: that type of offensive wrinkle? And Mike Thomas gotta be 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: loving all this AJ Brown, This Jalen Hurts that he's 89 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 3: gonna take advantage of that because you know that they're 90 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 3: gonna try to force targets to AJ Brown and the 91 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: Steelers are gonna sit on that pick six. That's what 92 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: they're gonna do. I mean, Jalen Hurts is gonna throw 93 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: more attempts than he should in this game because the 94 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: Eagles have a narrative to set. Oh no, we do 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: like our receivers. We do throw the ball and what's 96 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: gonna happen is that's gonna give more opportunities for TJ. Watt. 97 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: This is such a psychological matchup where it plays so 98 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: much into the Steelers, where the Eagles are just so 99 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: stuck inside their own minds right now that they're not 100 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: even focused on winning the game like they're focused on it. 101 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: We gotta keep our players happy this and that. I 102 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: think the Steelers are gonna take full advantage. So plus 103 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: five and a half and like Treel Furman always says, 104 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 3: sprint going on the money line those dogs. 105 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: Yes, you're getting plus two hundred on the money line. 106 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 3: I see. 107 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: And yesterday I did bring up on the live if 108 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: you missed it. If you missed it, you can go 109 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: back and watch on the YouTube channel. But we did 110 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: the livestream now on Wednesdays at three pm Eastern, so 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: when you ring your belt notifications, you won't miss it. 112 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: But if you did, we talked about it yesterday and 113 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: I brought up maybe you do see some packages with 114 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: justin fields. If you don't have you know, Pickens on 115 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: the field, maybe you're gonna see a little bit more, 116 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, cleverness, try to throw the Eagles off their 117 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: game a little bit, especially when you get in the 118 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: red zone. I could see that also, like the over 119 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: on Friarmouth Props this week too. More on that in 120 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: the show tomorrow we'll talk about. Let's get to the 121 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: next game on the list here, Terrell, you like the 122 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Bengals at minus five now the Bengals are going against 123 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Defensively, again, they have been respectable most of 124 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: the year. I know the number for this game is 125 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: forty six, but let's talk about the Bengals here. Do 126 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: you why are you confident in this minus five because 127 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: that defense continues against any offense really to be a liability. 128 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: I know the Tennessee offense is worse than most, but 129 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: we've seen lesser offenses go up there and still put 130 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: up points against the Bengals regardless. 131 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, shoot, the twenty points to the Cowboys 132 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 2: was not impressive for that defense and giving up that 133 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: to Cooper Rush and how they were able to move 134 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: the football. But I think that nonetheless Joe Burrown, this 135 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 2: offense is going to score points like that is going 136 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: to happen, and if you're not able to match them, 137 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: regardless of how bad the defense is. I just think 138 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: that will Levis turns the ball over way too much, 139 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: very unprotected with the football. Even if it's not Will Levis. 140 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Even if Will Levis is out of the game for 141 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: some reason and it's now Mason Rudolph, he still has 142 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: the same problem with The Titans are horrible on special 143 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: teams they give up, block punts, block field goals, all 144 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: this other stuff. So you have a third aspect of 145 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: the game that I think the Cincinnati Bengals are gonna 146 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: take advantage of because they're a desperate team. Every single 147 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: game they're playing for their lives. You only have a 148 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: shot at the playoffs if you're nine to eight. You 149 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: can't take a ninth loss. So this team thinks that 150 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: they're relatively there. Joe Burrow is shaking up about his 151 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 2: home getting broken into. I think that's gonna turn out 152 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: on the field as well, like I and See Higgins. 153 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,239 Speaker 2: See Higgins is unhappy, and that's Joe Burrow's guy. Still, 154 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Like he's gonna go feed him the ball, like I 155 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: think he's gonna continue to get his pass catchers the football, 156 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: and they're gonna be really, really good. And they've been 157 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 2: scoring on everybody, like everybody as a blake. They've been scoring. 158 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: It's just the defense has been given up a bunch 159 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: of points. And I'm just gonna I'm good fading Will Levis. 160 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: Will Levis can prove it to me this is a 161 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: complete one eighty from week one, Will Levis, you can 162 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: prove it to me. I love the Bengals here laying 163 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: the points they covered against the Cowboys, and I think 164 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: it can be the exact same game script where maybe 165 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: this is a tighter game for a couple of quarters, 166 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: but when it comes down to the end, they make 167 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: the right play, get a touchdown, and we get to cover. 168 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: The last time the Carolina Panthers were a favorite in 169 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the game, it was December eighteenth, twenty twenty two. That's 170 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: two years ago, just almost to the date. So this 171 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: week against the Dallas Cowboys they are That is an 172 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: incredible thing here to sit here and have this evolution 173 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: of or evolution of the Carolina Panthers and de evolution 174 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys, and here we are ericson not 175 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: only are you confident that the Panthers will win, but 176 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,119 Speaker 1: you're confident they're going to cover this two and a half? 177 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: I am, and I thought you were going to open 178 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 3: that little line with Carolina about all right, quiz time, 179 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: who was the quarterback of the Carolina Panthers in twenty 180 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: twenty two when they were favored? If I had guess 181 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: what I mean? 182 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: So? 183 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 3: Was he there some rendition of Sam Darnold Baker Mayfield? Maybe? 184 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: But you said it was in December, so I don't know. 185 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: Who have Steelers. 186 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: Oh, so it must have been against like what's the 187 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: space Duck Hodges. 188 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: Well, guess what, I know they didn't cover that game, quarterback. 189 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: But I know for a fact they didn't cover the game. 190 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: I don't even Oh, I could tell you right now 191 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: they did not. 192 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Okay, so again, you said de evolution of Dallas Cowboys. 193 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 3: I think you meant to say destruction of the Dallas 194 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: Cowboys because that's kind of that's kind of what we're 195 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: seeing here with Dallas. 196 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: Look like, by the way, Pittsburgh Steelers won twenty four 197 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to sixteen. I found it right, Yes it was and Sam. 198 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: This quarterback? Wow, anyway, it was a plus five and a half, folks. 199 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if you don't need any more evidence than that, 200 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 3: man Mitchell Trubisky on the road. 201 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 202 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: All right, so right down, obviously the massive turnaround. They 203 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: are five and oh against the spread over their last 204 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: five games. They're two and oh straight up against teams 205 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 3: with losing records. So the only reason they haven't won 206 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 3: any of these games over the last two weeks because 207 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: these have actually been good teams that they've gone up 208 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: again but they've covered the spread with ease. They should 209 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 3: have won. I think a lot of these games I 210 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: don't need you guys to be convinced of that. And 211 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: now they're getting Dallas on a short week. We know 212 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: Dallas is bad. It took the Giants for them to 213 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: finally win a home game, the New York Giants, who 214 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: are currently sixteen and a half point underdogs and counting 215 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: with Tommy DeVito as a quarterback at home against the 216 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. I just think that doubt like this is 217 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: the spot, like this is where everything kind of comes 218 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: to a head. With Carolina, we've seen the improved play, 219 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: it hasn't translated into wins, but now finally it's going 220 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 3: to get them a w against the Dallas Cowboys team 221 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: that again, it's not a good team overall. Yes, they 222 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 3: put another linebacker on into preserve Overshaw is going to 223 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: be out for the rest of the season. Yes, they 224 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: have Micaeh Parsons. That's the one factor of their defense 225 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 3: that maybe we're concerned about. But the thing that's impressed 226 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: me the most about Bryce Young is we're seeing that 227 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: offscript playmaking ability that we saw at Alabama. So even 228 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: if he is getting pressure from Micah Parsons from this 229 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: pass rush from Dallas. Well, he's shown the last five 230 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: weeks that he can deliver. He can deliver those plays 231 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: on the room, on the move, when he's scrambling, when 232 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: he's making plays. That's why I love his rushing prop 233 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 3: this week. He's going to be the reason to win 234 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: for the Carolina Panthers this week. So dare I say 235 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: the Cardiac Cats are back? Yes, they are, Carolina min 236 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: two and a half. 237 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: We've got a huge game coming up this week too, 238 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: could be a Super Bowl preview. 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Let's lay the two 266 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: and a half here with the Lions. I think the 267 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: Lions go ahead and get this done against the Buffalo Bills. 268 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: I can't first of all, quick little mini rare, I 269 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: cannot fathom how you can lose a game and people 270 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: can say you locked up the MVP and a loss, 271 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: because when Lamar Jackson loses, that is the reason why 272 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: they say, oh, we cannot give him MVP. Lamar Jackson 273 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 2: has more passing yards, more passing touchdowns. He has beaten 274 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: Josh Allen head to head, and Josh Allen couldn't score 275 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: the football at all. Not saying Josh Allen is not 276 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 2: a great quarterback. He's having an amazing season. But how 277 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: do you lock up the MVP on a loss? And 278 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: I think this is gonna be the spot where they're like, Okay, 279 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: they take the loss, and everybody's like, the Bills are 280 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: gonna bounce back in this game. They're gonna try to 281 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: keep a spitting distance of the Chiefs, and they're forgetting 282 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 2: that this Lions team has a horseshoe up their ass. 283 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: There is something good about this Lions team where they constantly, constantly, 284 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: constantly find ways to win games. And at this point, 285 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: I'm not fading it no way. I saw this Jared 286 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: Goff throw five interceptions and this team still win the game. 287 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: I saw that with my eyes. I saw him throw 288 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: five interceptions and still within the game. There's something there, 289 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: we've seen Caleb Williams and he gotta coach fire. This 290 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Lions team gotta coach fire because he was in act. 291 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: He couldn't beat this Lions team because he just went 292 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: there and didn't even use the timeout and eber flew. 293 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: So how do you beat the Bills? You beat the 294 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: Bills by running the football. Well, what do the Lions 295 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 2: do really really really well? David Montgomery and Jamier Gibbs. 296 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: I think both of them aren't gonna have amazing days. 297 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Jered Goff is not gonna have to do a lot 298 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: of work here. This is gonna be the stereotypical Lions 299 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: game this season where they dominate on the ground. Jared 300 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: Golf doesn't give you this all world performance, but you 301 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: look at the score and you're like, oh wow, they 302 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: came out with the win. Again. The defenses lied. They're 303 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: flying around, and I really really credit the defense with 304 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: all the injuries that they have to still be able 305 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: to put together a unit that can be competent every 306 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: single given week. So I think that we could see 307 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: some scoring here, and I think that here we have 308 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: a spot where this run game just dominates time and 309 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: possession for the Lions and they're able to squeak out 310 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 2: of this with the win. Is this going to be 311 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 2: a big blowout win. I don't think so. But one 312 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: to ten win by the Lions absolutely, and I think 313 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: they get it by three or more. Gimme Lions laying 314 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: two and a half. 315 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: I think the only counter argument. And I like what 316 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: you're saying too about the MVP race too. If Josh 317 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: Allen keeps losing games, has becomes kind of tricky, especially 318 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: if you're saying, well, Lamar loses games, so he's out 319 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: of it. I think the difference is Lamar's lost enough 320 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: games here so far at least where the division is 321 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: slightly out of reach for them, not completely, but slightly, 322 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: especially after this week. If the Steelers win again, it 323 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: gets even tighter. So that's the only thing is, Yeah, 324 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the East is easy. Yeah they're dominating their division, but 325 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna win their division and they still have a 326 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: shot even if they lose this week, to still make 327 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: a run at that one seed two in the next 328 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: couple weeks. Again, I think I think that's the only thing. 329 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: And this game is if this game was Week seventeen, 330 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: I think would stick in people's minds just a little 331 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: bit more, but the fact of this week fifteen is 332 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: still a little bit of time. And also there's just 333 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: that narrative of the fatigue of Lamar Jackson, which isn't right, 334 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: but it's reality where they just get sick of voting 335 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: for the same guy over and over again in the media, 336 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: and that is just what happens. I get sick of 337 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: my homes and againstick of Lamar, and then they'll love 338 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen to get sick at him and they want 339 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: to go start, you know, dropping bo Nick's MVP stuff 340 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: in there. All right, let's get your take on this game. 341 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: So Andrew dare I even have to ask where you're going. 342 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you love to talk about this game. He's 343 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the undertaker, but this is also the cores field, as 344 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: he loves to tell us every week of the NFL. 345 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: So I gotta imagine, with all these weapons here and 346 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: now all these quarterbacks that are playing so well, that 347 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: you're going to take the over in this one. 348 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: Yep, over Lions Bills fifty four and a half points. Yes, 349 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: it is a massive number. It's actually the highest projected 350 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: total that we've seen in the NFL this season. But 351 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 3: keep in mind fifty four and a half points is 352 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: the average, not the projected total, the average of resulting 353 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: games played in Detroit over the last three plus seasons. 354 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: So we're hitting this number fifty percent of the time 355 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: on average. So and that's not considering the matchup that 356 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: we have against Obviously, I don't need convincing about. We 357 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: have two explosive offenses that can move the ball at will. 358 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: For I'm just talked about Detroit. They're going to score. 359 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: They score against literally everybody. You have Josh Allen who 360 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 3: scored six touchdowns last week, he might score six touchdowns 361 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: again in a losing effort. I don't know, but I 362 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: don't really care who wins this game, because all I 363 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: know this are gonna be points. And even when you 364 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: look at just this season, Lions games on average are 365 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: hitting fifty five points per game at home. The last 366 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: five home games for the Lions have seen four go 367 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: for fifty eight or more points sixty one point average. 368 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: So I understand that there might be hesitants about well, this, 369 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: this this number is so big, there's no value, there's 370 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: no virus, like, maybe there's no value, but it's gonna hit. 371 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: It's kind of good. But it's gonna go over the totals. 372 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: And there's I think there's a need for the Buffalo 373 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: Bills after last week that you know they feel, man, 374 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: we really you know should have been should have had 375 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: that game. You know, we should have beaten a Rams team. 376 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: But you know that's you get caught that trap week 377 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: in between. And I think there's a not desperation, but 378 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of motivation here where like Buffalo is like, Okay, look, 379 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: this is this is our new measuring stick because everybody 380 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: thinks the line is the best even in the NFL. 381 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Is how good are we? And I feel like Josh 382 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: Allen w lance for that Bill, don't you? 383 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: I do? And I think that from a mindset perspective, 384 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: you know, both teams are going coaching into this game. 385 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: Do you think the Bills are even considering punting at 386 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: any point? Like they're they're on their own forty yard? 387 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: But I'm like, well, we got to go for it 388 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: because you know Dan Campbell's going for it. So I 389 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: just think he's. 390 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Got to get that out of a system too, Dude, 391 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I I am. I mean, when you get the playoffs, 392 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: you gotta stop doing that crap. It's gonna kill you. 393 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just going to no. 394 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, that's gonna be the reason they don't win 395 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: a super Bowl, regardless of whether it happens in the 396 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: Divisional round, or whether it happens in the Conference championship, 397 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: or whether it happens in the super Bowl Bowl prediction. Here. 398 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: You heard it right here, right now. The reason the 399 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: Lions get knocked out of the playoffs is because they 400 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 2: go for it randomly on fourth down in a game 401 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: and they don't get it and it actually kicks them 402 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: into butt. 403 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: It's one of the things that worries me the most 404 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: about them playing Kansas City in the Super Bowl because 405 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City, with Andy Reid and the way that they operate, 406 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: right there's such a well owed machine in terms of operation. 407 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Maybe not always execution in the last two years, but operation. 408 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: That's not where you want Dan Campbell to be against 409 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: Andy Reid again. There's gonna be a decision making process 410 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: at some point that's gonna go awry. And I'm with 411 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent. That's why I think you do 412 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: want the Buffalo Bills. I think the Buffalo Bills are 413 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: an easier win for you if you do get the 414 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: Super Bowl on the AFC side, I even think the 415 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: Ravens are an easier win for you. It's specifically Andy 416 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Reid that I worry about the most, potentially andrew anything 417 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: else before we move on to the next game here 418 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: on this last. 419 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 3: One, actually I did, so I don't have anything else again, 420 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: love the over. I did want to bring back up 421 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 3: the topic of the MVP with with Josh Allen, like 422 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: Furman laid out talking about well again, so like, let's 423 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: let's say that we're right here, it's a shootout over Cashes. 424 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: The Lions win again, so the Bills have lost too straight. 425 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: The MVP obviously doesn't get it doesn't strengthen for Josh Allen, 426 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: right if they lose again, like I can't imagine that 427 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: unless it's another six touchdown effort and people don't care. 428 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: And what if the Eagles. 429 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: That losses in December? Yeah, in December, Like that's the 430 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 2: early in the season. Okay, in December, Batan back losses. 431 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I mean again, if you lose to 432 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: the best team in football in the NFC, like I 433 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: it depends. It does depend on the performance, because what 434 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: if it is this incredible game that it goes to overtime, 435 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: and none of it's Josh Allen's fault. He's not throwing 436 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: any picks right, the defense just giving up points every time. 437 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: I do think it matters because I think that's the 438 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: narrative from last week's game that people were riding as well. Well, 439 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen did all he could to win that football game. 440 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: What else? What else could he possibly do? And I 441 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: don't think that's wrong necessary? 442 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: Do you think that I'm just trying to like go 443 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: through the scenarios in my mind. Do you think that 444 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 3: it might make sense? Well, once you think Lamar Jackson 445 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 3: is dead as m VP, because well, look. 446 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: The market does because he's plus fourteen hundred. Now he's 447 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna put up hug numbers against You're. 448 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: Gonna put up huge numbers this week. The Steelers could lose, 449 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: so are the Ravens like they're not? I mean, the 450 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 3: Steelers have a tough schedule, so if they lose more games, 451 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 3: the Ravens could sneak up and win that division still 452 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 3: and then if it. 453 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: Depends, Wary still have a matchup. 454 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Barkley is still on pace for that Dickerson record too, 455 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: So if Barkley is a big game against the Steelers 456 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: and they romp over the Steelers, then you know these 457 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: plus five hundred. He's the closest one. Allen is minus 458 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: four fifty. For that to come back into the positive 459 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: even with a loss, Josh Allen would have to play 460 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: incredibly poorly in this game and they have to get 461 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: blown out. I think that's the only way it even 462 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: like comes even more anywhere. 463 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: If he just has a matter of how he plays, 464 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter if they win. 465 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: You think, That's what I think, especially the structure of what's. 466 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: Going on the gay Look who they played this season, 467 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: and let's look at them. Relatives matter. They haven't. I mean, 468 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Cardinals Dolphin doesn't matter. I'm telling you that they're not 469 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: gonna care. Every time they played except the Chiefs the 470 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 2: chief And it seems like the Chiefs win is what 471 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 2: got him the MVP. Honestly, it feels like the Chiefs 472 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: win is the marquee win that's gonna get him the MVP. 473 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: Because they lost to the Texans, they lost to the Ravens, 474 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: and if they lose to the Lions, that's like, come on, now, 475 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: those are three of the four best teams in the 476 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: league and you lost three of them. 477 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: Oh look, man, I'm hedging with the Bills for the 478 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'm still sticking with my Lions and Chiefs, 479 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: and everybody can hit on the Chiefs all they want. 480 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: The end of the day, as you said, you know, 481 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: the Bills have shown they can compete against the Chiefs. 482 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: We know that, but if the Bills getting it done 483 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: in big spots is still something that I'm concerned with 484 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: when we get into the playoff time. That's just where 485 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm that. I want to get to the Chargers game too, 486 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: because we always like Baker Mayfield when he's an underdog. 487 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: He's an underdog this week, but it is against the Chargers, 488 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: and you're on the side of the Chargers, and typically 489 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: I want to be on the Baker Mayfield side. But 490 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: I've been undecided about this one because I feel like 491 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: the Chargers are really starting to I mean, they're becoming 492 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: a really formidable team. The injuries have been a bit 493 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: of an issue lately. But let's talk about this minus 494 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: three and why you're comfortable with it as a best 495 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: bet this week, because this is a game that actually 496 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: worries me. 497 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I feel pretty good about it. And I'm 498 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: watching the lat Maconkee News. From what I'm hearing is 499 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: that he looks like he's gonna go. He's been limited 500 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 2: in practice, and that's a good sign to him playing, 501 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: because if he plays, he's absolutely torching this secondary. And 502 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: that's what it is for me. I think that this 503 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: is the Justin Herbert I prove to you that I'm 504 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: better than an average quarterback type game where he just 505 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: kind of cooks this secondary that's been giving the Buccaneers 506 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: issues all season. It's never really been about Baker Mayfield. 507 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: I think Baker Mayfield actually would be fine in the game. 508 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: He'll be okay. This Chargers defense is still really good. 509 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,479 Speaker 2: They are really really still pesky to given up points. 510 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: It's only a handful of times that they actually literally 511 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: just a handful against the Cincinnati Bengals and the Baltimore 512 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Ravens where they gave up more than three touchdowns. So 513 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: if you're not scoring three touchdowns against this team, I 514 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: think that the Chargers can score three touchdowns against the 515 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I'm back in. Justin Herbert is 516 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: looking like an actual more than average quarterback. And I'm 517 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 2: not even a guy that's really really high on Justin Herbert. 518 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 2: I think he's slightly overrated, but I think this is 519 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: a really good spot where he's getting a soft defense, 520 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: a soft secondary. He's a they're not going to be 521 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: able to generate as much pressure. And then I love 522 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: the coaching and I'm taking Harball. I think Harball is 523 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: a great coach. He's got this team, this defense really 524 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: really solidified out of a team last year whose defense 525 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 2: was horrible, and they're essentially the same pieces, Like it's 526 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: essentially the same pieces. He's coached them up better. And 527 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm fading Tampa Bay here. I think they're 528 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: going to have some issues. I'm really really worried because 529 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: in my big money fantasy league I have Mike Evans 530 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: and I really really need Mike Evans to have a 531 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: good week. But I don't think it's gonna happen. I 532 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 2: really don't. I think Chargers are going to play some 533 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: good defense and be able to get a win. 534 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: All right, We've been talking about it all week, so 535 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: now we're here on Thursday. So the Houston Miami situation, 536 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: Miami can't be good teams. It's used to a good team, 537 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: Andrew are we just gonna look past all of it? 538 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: And just go to the total instead. 539 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: Yes, because I'm a coward and I wanted to put 540 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 3: Dolphins plus three, but it just burned in my memory 541 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 3: as I review this game, be like, why did I 542 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 3: pick the dolphinscause the team against a big record? Why 543 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 3: why did I did this to myself? So instead, I'm 544 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: just gonna fade both teams, and the easiest way to 545 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 3: do that is to take the under in the game. 546 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 3: Forty seven points is a pretty high total, and I 547 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 3: think that's if we were getting c J strived from 548 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: last year, where we'd feel confident about, oh, like, let's 549 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 3: take the over. 550 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: C J. 551 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: Stroud firing on all cylinders. Has not been the case 552 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 3: so whatsoever this year. And we just look at the trends. 553 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: Six of the Texans last nine games as favorites have 554 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: gone under the total at home this year, they've played 555 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: one game that has gone over the total. They're one 556 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: and five towards the over forty five points per game. 557 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: The Dolphins six of the seven last road games have 558 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: gone under the total. So yeah, I just really want 559 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: to fade both these teams in this situation. I get 560 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: that the texts are coming off of bye week. Maybe 561 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 3: we see more of a offensive you know, improvement, or 562 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: maybe we just see more of the same from them, 563 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: where it really hasn't been this high flying show and 564 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 3: they just want to run the ball with Joe Mixon 565 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 3: because that's really what's worked for them the best all 566 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 3: year long. And every time you feel comfortable with the 567 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 3: Dolphins say oh, well they're at a dome this time, Well, 568 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: you know, they played the last two road games that 569 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 3: they've played that they've had with really high totals. I'm 570 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: looking at the numbers here at forty seven and a 571 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 3: half and forty nine and a half, they sailed under 572 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: the projected total. It was the Rams and Dolphins game 573 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 3: that was at forty nine and a half in a dome. 574 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: Everyone's like, oh, this game is gonna go way over. 575 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 3: Wasn't even close. The Dolphins couldn't do anything on offense 576 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: because they're on the road against a good team. So 577 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 3: I just yeah, for me, it's under forty seven points. Again. 578 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to come on here and confidently back the Dolphins, 579 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 3: but just can't do that to myself because I'm going 580 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 3: to look up and be like, well you got what 581 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: you just Erickson, because you bet on the Dolphins against 582 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: a team with a winning record. 583 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's tough. I think I'm not gonna call 584 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: you a coward about this. I just think it's probably 585 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: the path of least resistance, to be honest with you, 586 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: I think that's where it is and and and that's 587 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here. I'm trying to win money, 588 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: and that little bit of variance is enough. I think 589 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 1: we're gonna make you nervous. I think I would just 590 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: go with this under two. So we'll see what happens there. 591 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: One more game for each of the guys, and we're 592 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the upset special in the parlay of 593 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: the week. Let's get the Broncos game in here. The 594 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: Broncos are four point favorites this week. They've earned this. 595 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: They're in a spot here against the Indianapolis Colts where 596 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: you are looking at, you know, Anthony Richardson trying to 597 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: claw his way back into relevance, the Denver Broncos at 598 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: home with bow Nicks playing so well, it's hard not 599 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: to like where this team is going. They're a playoff 600 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: team right now, and it feels like a game they 601 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: should win. So obviously, Trell, you're pretty confident that they're 602 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: gonna win this one very handily. 603 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: Would you beolieve me if Fassett I'm in love some 604 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: mean yes, all the way on the side of bow Knicks. 605 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 2: And I mean, if you just go and watch my 606 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: progression of how if he I was on bow knicks 607 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 2: and this Broncos team still taking them, but if he 608 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: to now me being confident in saying that Sean Payton 609 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: has figured out bow Knicks and it's so easy, it's 610 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: so easy. We're not gonna put it. We're not gonna 611 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: put them in danger, guys, and we're gonna play really 612 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: really good defense. And now we have a quarterback that 613 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: will actually give us the football without us asking. He's 614 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: just gonna give it to us sometimes. And and the 615 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: little whatever whatever voodoo that the Colts had that they 616 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 2: kept covering games with Joe Flacco with Anthony Richardson, that 617 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 2: has died off in the last couple of weeks. Here 618 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: they're four and five. No, yeah, for their last five games, 619 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 2: they haven't covered the spread at all. They didn't cover 620 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 2: a six point dogs against Minnesota, and they didn't cover 621 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: against the Bills. They didn't cover against the Lions. They 622 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 2: didn't even covers two and a half point favorites against 623 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: the Patriots. Like, there's so many reasons of why this 624 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: Colts team is just not good, and I think the 625 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: markets just not catching up or they don't want to 626 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 2: make bo Nicks too big of a favorite. Nonetheless, bo 627 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: Nicks six and zero is a favorite, so I'm not afraid. 628 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: He's already given me all the pedigree of showing hey 629 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 2: when they trust this guy, of being a favorite. This 630 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos team ten and three, ats I keep winning 631 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 2: with this team. I want to stop betting them. But 632 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 2: they're just a wagon and they just haven't adjusted. And 633 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 2: maybe it's because it's a rookie quarterback and they're playing 634 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: really well. But this is a solid team. This is 635 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: a playoff team. They look really good and I'm taking 636 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 2: bo Knicks yet again to be able to get this done. 637 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna play really really good defense, and 638 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: he's just gonna protect the football and not do too much, 639 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: just get the ball downfield. 640 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: The Commanders might not have to do too much because 641 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: there's nobody left to play for the New Orleans Saints 642 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 1: this week. Obviously another injury bug for the Saints. They 643 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: lost Taysom Hill a couple of weeks ago. Now they 644 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: lost Derek are Alvin Kamaraz, somebody should put him bubble wrap. 645 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: If I'm Kamara, I just I'm like, look, maybe I 646 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: should just call it a day. 647 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: Uh. 648 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: These Saints are at home, but it doesn't matter. You're 649 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: seeing seven seven and a half here on Washington on 650 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: the road and frankly ericson they should go in there 651 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: after a bye and just pound on the Saints and 652 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: solidify this playoff run because they're right there. They're towards 653 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: the end of the bracket right now. But the Commanders, 654 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: this is a game that you have to win to 655 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: maintain that lead you have in the NFC, in that 656 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: playoff hunt. And it feels like a game that's not 657 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: lost on Dan Quinn, It's not lost on Jane Daniels. 658 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: In this crew, they should win this game. The question 659 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: is covering the seven? You say, yes, I do, and. 660 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: I know that everyone's looking at Oh, the Ravens are 661 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 3: just going to destroy the Giants, going to be forty enough. No, 662 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: this is the game where the Commanders are going to 663 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 3: go in and destroy the We're on sane, so you. 664 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 2: Think the Giants are covering. Is that what you're saying? 665 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: I is that what you just said? I'm sorry, I 666 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 2: didn't mean to interrupt him. 667 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: Now that's not a best bet, but you make the 668 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Giants are not covering the fourteen and a half that 669 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: I got on Monday or the sixteen and a half 670 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: that it is today. 671 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: I trust the process. Double digit dogs at home don't care. 672 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 3: Trust the process. 673 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: Well, you can trust it all you want. It's gonna 674 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: be it's gonna be thirty seven to four or seven whatever, 675 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: whether I don't even know what kind of nuts trust. 676 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: I trust the process. Do with the numbers telling me 677 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 3: to do regardless, the Commanders are going to cover again. 678 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: If anything, I'm laying the points of the Commanders before 679 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: I do with the Ravens. So that's where I'm gonna 680 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 3: put my money. Commanders cover the spread eight or last 681 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: nine games against teams with a losing record. They've also 682 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 3: won seven or last eight games against teams that held 683 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: a losing record. So the Commanders is a team that 684 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 3: entering this year obviously came in with low expectations. We 685 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: weren't really sure what they would be. Rookie quarterback. New 686 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 3: coaches are up and down the board, and they've taken 687 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: our of business against really bad teams as a result. Right, 688 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: So I think we're a year away from them being 689 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: a legitimate, like playoff contender. Even if they make the postseason, 690 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 3: they're probably gonna be a one and done team look 691 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 3: ahead till twenty twenty five. But against a team like 692 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints, like you said, Joe, on their 693 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: last leg, we don't know who else they have left. 694 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 3: We don't even know who they're starting a quarterback because 695 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: they probably I don't know who the better option is 696 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: at this point because the scene Spencer Ratler, he played 697 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: a couple of games, wasn't great. Jake Hayner is the 698 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: guy that's always the guy that comes in and never 699 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: looks good after Derek Carr gets hurt for the third 700 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: time all season long. So I just think we're forgetting that. 701 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: The last time he saw the Commanders, they steam rolled 702 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, who allegedly had a good run defense. 703 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: The Saints do not have a good run defense against 704 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: bad teams. Twenty ninth and run defense this year. The 705 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: Washington Commanders have the third most efficient run game. And 706 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 3: I know that we like to favor teams just intertally 707 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: coming off a bye week, But I think that the 708 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: Commanders really need because their guys were actually hurt, right, 709 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 3: Like Jane Daniel was dealing with a rib injury. We 710 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: know Brian Robinson was on the injury report. Maybe Marsha 711 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 3: Latimer finally plays for the Washington Commanders in a revenge Yeah, 712 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: in a revenge game. So maybe he actually suits up 713 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: since they traded a third round pick for him and 714 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 3: he still hasn't played for their team. But yeah, I 715 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: think that they're gonna be healthier and the Saints, man, 716 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: they barely beat the Giants, as we alluded to again, 717 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: a team that is laughable at this point. So I'm 718 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 3: gonna lay the points with the Commanders on the road. 719 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's a homecoming right for Jaye Daniels going 720 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: back to played at LSU for two years. I think 721 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: that it's a game where he's gonna want to show 722 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 3: up and put up a lot of points. I think 723 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: the Commander's role. 724 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: Speaking of a lot of points, I'm gonna say thirty 725 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: seven to ten for the Giants score. Charle's that sound right? 726 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: This week? Yeah, I'm gonna give him a touchdown in 727 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: a field goal. I think somehow they scratch out a 728 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: touchdown at. 729 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 3: The end turn for a touchdown last week, I call 730 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 3: it back they had. 731 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that field right to you. 732 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, it does all that clears the sixteen and 733 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: a half everybody comfortably. I just want to put that 734 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: out there also comfortable. Well my run of picking the 735 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks in the last month, oh baby, guess what. 736 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: They are underdogs again, this time at home to the 737 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Andrew Erickson has taught me something this 738 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty four. Anybody that plays the Detroit 739 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: Lions the next week is not good. 740 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: It's not good, yeps. 741 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: The hangover is And it's the Green Bay Packers this week, 742 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: going on the road into Seattle. And look, I know 743 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: the twelfth Man used to be a thing. It's been 744 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: a while since the Seahawks fans had a lot to 745 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: cheer about. They've got a team in first place. It 746 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: feels like a moment for them to really get up 747 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: for this game. It's gonna be a standalone prime time night. 748 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna have your Seahawks fans ready to go, and 749 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be energy in the building. 750 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 3: Here. 751 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: The Packers are a good team, they know it. The 752 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks continue to find ways to create turnovers, and those 753 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: turnovers create havoc in the momentum of these games, and 754 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: it swings back to the Seahawks every time. They keep 755 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: doing it, and they keep getting w's, and I think 756 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna get another w here this weekend. So give 757 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: me the Seattle Seahawks plus one thirty eight on the 758 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: money line. Let's go to do it again. And that's 759 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: not only the upset special of the week, and it's 760 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: in the parlay of the week. 761 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: Two. 762 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: Give me the Seattle Seahawks on the money line. Give 763 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: me the Ravens on the money line, because I mean, 764 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: where's that guy who bet three million dollars last week? 765 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: This is the game to bet it on. And give 766 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: me the case he has the City Chiefs on the 767 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: money line against the Browns. I know it's on the road. 768 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: I know it's a little dangerous. I don't care. Chiefs 769 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: always find a way to win games. That's what they do. 770 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Put those three things together, get plus two to seventy one. 771 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: That's hardly the way. 772 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 2: The price was without the Ravens money line. Because that's 773 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: like minus fit seed. 774 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: It was like two seventy and then moving to seventy one. No, 775 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: it was it was close, it was in there. But again, 776 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: I want to make an easy one. I want to 777 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: take my upset special every week betting the Seahawks, like 778 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: I've been talking about on this show, every single week 779 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: and every single week is coming through. And you put 780 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: all these confluence of events together, I think it's a 781 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: really good situation here for the Seattle Seahawks. So and 782 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: I'll take the two sure things that I feel like 783 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: should be chiefs. Don't let me down. Don't let this 784 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: be the letdown. Please. All right, that'll do it for us, 785 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: But the story of the game goes on for Terrell 786 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: Furman Junior and the Undertaker Andrew Erickson. Have a great 787 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: week fifteen. We'll see you next time. Kids. Thanks for 788 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: listening to the Betting Pros podcast. 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