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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August fifteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour,

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Speaker 1: and now Billie Eilish's inspiration for Birds of a Feather. J. P.

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Speaker 2: Chatrick, I don't know what that means. Welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. It is Thursday, August fifteenth. We've

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Speaker 3: got a busy hour ahead, in fact two hours, because

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show begins at five o'clock. Coming up

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Speaker 3: in this hour Buccaneers Jaguars practices. We'll have the standouts

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Speaker 3: from those practices. Starting reps on the practice field this

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Speaker 3: week preseason week two, the matchup between the Bucks and

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars coming up this Saturday, And of course says

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Speaker 3: we've entered the Doug Peterson Show five o'clock on the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Radio Network. We're on ten to xl AM ninety

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Speaker 3: two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. You

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Speaker 3: can find us all the places, including on x at JP.

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Speaker 2: Shadwick at logs five to six.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Logoman joins me now from the Hyundai studios at

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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how are you? Yeah, Yeah, I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Fresh off of two days of practice with the Tampa

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Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers. It's way better than regular training camp. But

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Speaker 3: like last year going to Detroit, it was great because

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Speaker 3: it was a change of scenery. It was kind of

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Speaker 3: a little bit of a road trip. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: they also happened to have a classic car show going

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Speaker 3: on at the same time. But you know, Tampa Bay

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Speaker 3: coming in here, great repetitions, great opportunity to evaluate your

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Speaker 3: guys against other NFL caliber talent. Then that was pretty

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Speaker 3: much yesterday, but today not so much. Today was a

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Speaker 3: little different. They had they took the pads off, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't quite as strenuous of a practice

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Speaker 3: it was. It was a very lax tempo. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say walk through tempo. It was

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Speaker 3: more than that, a little bit more than that, but

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Speaker 3: it wasn't It wasn't like a highly competitive first four

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Speaker 3: days of training camp practice where guys are competing against

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Speaker 3: each other. When you're practicing against you know, your own team.

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Speaker 3: It was definitely a much lighter, casual pace.

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Speaker 2: Than that kind of of a pace.

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's part of the deal. You know,

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Speaker 3: you both teams don't want to have the pads on.

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Speaker 3: I guess it's today's NFL. You know, they didn't want

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Speaker 3: to have the pads on two days prior to the

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Speaker 3: preseason game number two, and it's a controlled environment. So

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Speaker 3: the first day is tough, it's demanding, it's physical, it's competitive,

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Speaker 3: and then the second day with the with the other team,

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it is what it is.

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Speaker 2: I will say.

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Speaker 3: On Wednesday, during the joint practice, of course, both fields

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Speaker 3: are going at the same time. When there was seven

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Speaker 3: on seven on one end, there was one on one

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Speaker 3: pass rush on the other end, both teams against each other.

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Speaker 3: You kind of have to pick where you're gonna watch.

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Speaker 3: You can't watch it all at once. There's a lot

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Speaker 3: of action going on, which is the best way to

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Speaker 3: do it, the most efficient way to do it. Everybody

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Speaker 3: on that field was getting some kind of work in

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Speaker 3: at the same time. Yeah, you got to kind of

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Speaker 3: pick what you're gonna watch. And then also at some

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Speaker 3: stages they had some people in the Miller Electric Center

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Speaker 3: indoor facility, so I mean that really could be in

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Speaker 3: the Yeah, there's really three kind of places to where

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Speaker 3: your eye is going to be at, you know, but.

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Speaker 2: The specialists in the air conditioning of course.

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Speaker 3: Well, the offensive lineman and defensive linemen. We're in there

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Speaker 3: for a little bit too, now, JP. I mean, those

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Speaker 3: guys they like the cool environment, and obviously for good reason,

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Speaker 3: because they're.

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Speaker 2: Very large animals.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that large animals, you know, sweat

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Speaker 3: profusely and like air conditioning. I'm one of them, used

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Speaker 3: to be. I'm not so large anymore. But it was

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Speaker 3: good and I really liked the practice yesterday, and I

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Speaker 3: get the benefit of yes during practice, my eyes can

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Speaker 3: only be in one spot, but then the eye and

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Speaker 3: the sky can give me the other plays at a

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Speaker 3: later date, I can watched the film of the practice,

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Speaker 3: and so I was able to watch the film last

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Speaker 3: night to watch all of it again, and that was

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Speaker 3: really good. I can tell you just a couple of takeaways.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars offensive line I thought did a really good

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Speaker 3: job in one on one pass rush, which was which

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Speaker 3: was impressive. The Jaguars defensive line along the same lines,

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Speaker 3: I thought dominated pass rush. Josh heinz Allen was I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he beat up Tristan Wurf's on two consecutive plays,

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Speaker 3: and it was like, dang, Josh, go ahead, and Tristan

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Speaker 3: Wurf's is the highest paid left tackle in football, and Josh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, now, once they got the team, Tristan even

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Speaker 3: little bit of an advantage, PASSELLI will claim that it

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Speaker 3: is a major advantage for defensive linemans. Sure, I say

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit of an advantage. But yeah, that

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Speaker 3: was impressive. And once they got the teams, I mean,

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Speaker 3: just an overall look, I thought the Jaguars offense in

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Speaker 3: seven on seven they were good, but once they got

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Speaker 3: the team they slowed down a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I thought Tampa controlled the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, they've got a guy who

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Speaker 3: wears number fifty who's pretty good. Last name three letters,

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Speaker 3: v e A. That means really good. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 3: it should say across the back of the jersey instead

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Speaker 3: of ayah, it should say really good. Yeah, Vita Vea

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Speaker 3: probably the top nose tackle in the game today.

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Speaker 2: He's good, man? Is he good?

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Speaker 3: So it did feel like to your point that in

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Speaker 3: the team periods yesterday on Wednesday, that Trevor had some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see a little bit, and then a few would

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Speaker 3: You know, he would have sacked like there was a

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Speaker 3: long ball that was completed to Brian Thomas and in

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Speaker 3: a real game, he would have been sacked before the

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Speaker 3: ball even got out, which which you know, that's part

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Speaker 3: of the deal. I thought that much like last year's

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Speaker 3: in the Jaguars offense versus the Buccaneers defense on that

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Speaker 3: flip side of that, on the other field, the Buccaneers offense,

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Speaker 3: I thought the Jaguars defense had the upper hand over

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Speaker 3: Bay's got some I think the best part of this

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Speaker 3: why my eyes were on the Jaguars offensive field, because

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Speaker 3: Todd Bowles knows defense arguably better than maybe anybody in

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Speaker 3: for these days of combined practice, and so really good

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Speaker 3: that are just unbelievable. Absolute running back that's really talented

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Speaker 3: some good challenges there. Baker Mayfield, you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to say he's an upper echelon quarterback, but he's

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Speaker 3: He's a solid quarterback. But then you give him two

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Speaker 3: wide receivers like he has with Godwin and Mike Evans,

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Speaker 3: who walked by me today, I'm like, see he really

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Speaker 3: is that he is?

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Speaker 2: Ye, it's impressive.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Bucks defense, and they've got a player

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Speaker 3: at each level that's either a Pro bowler or an

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Speaker 3: All Pro talent, starting with veya up front of the

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Speaker 3: then Antoine Winfield junior at at the back end at safety.

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Speaker 3: That's just the name three. They've got other guys that

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Speaker 3: are they were missing a few guys a practice Tyron Shoyinka,

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: He was their first round pick last year, right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: he didn't get a ton of snaps. Yaya Diabi linebacker,

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Speaker 3: didn't get a ton of snaps. Uh, Elijah Cansey didn't

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Speaker 3: guys sitting out because of injury. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: the guys that you're talking about, Anton Antoine, Winfield, Levante

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Speaker 3: David Vida Veya, I mean those are three really good players.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if you had to pick one guy, uh,

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Speaker 3: that is probably the most challenging for for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 3: I would say Veya and then Winfield. Veya because he's

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Speaker 3: best center fielders in the business. And Uh, on the

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Speaker 3: on the flip side of that, you know, offensively, the

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Speaker 3: Mike Evans is obviously the biggest challenge there. Offensive line wise,

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Speaker 3: the Bucks are kind of just okay. They drafted a

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Speaker 3: their offensive line. I liked the and I watched a

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Speaker 3: I was kind of leaning more towards the Jags offense yesterday,

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Speaker 3: so I wanted to kind of see how they're performing

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Speaker 3: today and Mike Evans, and to your point too, they

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Speaker 3: But Evans wasn't like beating guys deep. It was he

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Speaker 3: has He's been at it so long. He just knows

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Speaker 3: the little nuances of how to get open, whether it's

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Speaker 3: And it's not like he's five yards wide open. He

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Speaker 3: might be two yards wide open, and jp he got

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Speaker 3: a sudden, right, So there was some of that, and

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Speaker 3: there's some young corners who were lined up against him,

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Speaker 3: and that's a good learning, great experience for this secondary.

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Speaker 3: A lot of these young guys that maybe be on

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Speaker 3: the second team right now, but they got to line

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Speaker 3: up against the first team Bucks offense today and you know,

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Speaker 3: they get a good taste of that and it gets

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Speaker 3: great work, and there's a and when you talk about

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Speaker 3: the Bucks wide receivers and having to be an opportunity

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Speaker 3: for great work for the Jaguars secondary, you know, when

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Speaker 3: might be one of the biggest question marks, you know,

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Speaker 3: when you're talking about, oh, what are they going to

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Speaker 3: do for the final roster, right, you know, the corner position.

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Speaker 3: I think in the safety position because you've had a

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Speaker 3: far as which direction they're definitely going to go on

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Speaker 3: the back end. So I think this game against the Bucks,

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Speaker 3: because we're not expecting a lot of starters to play

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Speaker 3: on Saturday night, this is a great opportunity for these

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Speaker 3: guys that are on that bubble to show what they've

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Speaker 3: got to let the coaches know and the personnel people.

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Speaker 3: Trent balking Is staff, Hey, look here's what I've got.

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Speaker 3: Here's what I can do, because you know your opportunity

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Speaker 3: and he's going forward are very small.

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Speaker 2: One of those.

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Speaker 3: Guys that the coaches have mentioned in press conferences and

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Speaker 2: I think it's great.

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Speaker 4: I think you know, when people say that's a bad thing,

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Speaker 2: Mac Jones and CJ.

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Speaker 3: Bethett will each get a half of action on Saturday

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Speaker 3: the backup plays, doesn't play, doesn't matter if he plays

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Speaker 3: an he shows well, there's gonna be some team in

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Speaker 3: the league that's gonna want to sign Mac Jones to

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Speaker 3: be their starting quarterback. Look around the league, how many

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Speaker 3: teams would you right now if you were any of

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Speaker 3: those teams pick me some teams at JP right now,

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Speaker 3: you'd say, you know what, I'll take Mac Jones right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean there's Minnesota Vikings. Absolutely, they

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Speaker 3: just lost they lost their draft draft pick quarterback. So Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas, right, they've got a battle between.

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Speaker 2: Who Gardner and but there's there's teams that you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I think he's he's he's a starting quarterback in

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Speaker 3: this league. So when when he leaves, which he will,

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Speaker 3: and free agency or how it happens, he's gonna end

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Speaker 3: up getting a sizable contract and that contract will end

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Speaker 3: up determining how much the compensatory pick comes back to

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. And it doesn't matter what how much the

448
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Speaker 3: dollar amount is based on position, it's just dollar amount

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Speaker 3: that determines the compensatory pick. So the Jaguars could get

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Speaker 3: a fourth probably in my opinion of the third to

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Speaker 3: come back to them for losing him in the future

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Speaker 3: and free agency. So from a trade standpoint, it was

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say brilliant because I mean, if

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Speaker 3: brilliant is something that very few people would do, but

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Speaker 3: it was a very shrewd smart move by Trent Balkey

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Speaker 3: to acquire him.

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Speaker 2: Savvy CJ. Bethard. You mentioned him.

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Speaker 3: He's been in the league now, going into year seven

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Speaker 3: in the NFL and has played in thirty two games

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Speaker 3: thirteen starts. He's fighting for the roster spot that you

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Speaker 3: talked about, and his approach over the next two weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't try to make a bigger deal than

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Speaker 5: what it is. I think every day you're just trying

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Speaker 5: to do your best and put your best foot forward.

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Speaker 5: But the bigger the moment you make it, I feel

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Speaker 5: like the more stress you bring upon yourself and there's

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Speaker 5: just no need for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, being eight years eight years in, I've seen

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Speaker 5: a lot, been through a lot, so I feel like

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Speaker 5: I'm mature in that sense.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he is the salty vet of the room.

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Speaker 3: I suppose perspective though, absolutely, And it's perspective that I mean.

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Speaker 2: He's been.

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Speaker 3: He grew up in the game of football, his grandfather's

476
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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame, the whole deal. He kind

477
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Speaker 3: of gets the whole vibe of the league and the

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Speaker 3: pace of how things go in the NFL, and it's

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Speaker 3: not gonna He's not gonna just shut it down and

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Speaker 3: take this whatever it is that might be ahead of him.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna go fight for whatever job he can go get.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's got first of all, he's got great perspective,

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Speaker 3: I mean great perspective on where he's at, how the

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Speaker 3: business works, and uh. And he's very comfortable in his

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Speaker 3: own skin. Give him credit for that, and.

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Speaker 2: And that's a good thing.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: A little story about how there's a little connection between

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Speaker 3: me and him is that his grandfather that you alluded

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Speaker 3: to was Bobby Bethort, who was the general manager of

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Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins back when they had the Redskins.

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Speaker 2: As the name.

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Speaker 3: So when I was a prospect coming out of the

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Speaker 3: University of Virginia, I was looking at signing with the

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Speaker 3: different agents. You know, I didn't know where I was

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Speaker 3: going to get drafted at the time, but but you know,

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Speaker 3: the thing to do when you're coming out you got

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Speaker 3: to get an agent. So I was looking at about

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Speaker 3: four or five different guys and interviewing that amount as well.

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Speaker 3: And then once I kind of honed it down to

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Speaker 3: a couple guys, my dad had a friend who happened

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Speaker 3: to know Bobby Bethard, and so my dad ended up

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Speaker 3: having the opportunity to to ask Bobby Bethard, you know, hey, look,

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Speaker 3: my son has a question. Would you mind looking and

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Speaker 3: giving your opinion on the agents that he's looking at,

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Speaker 3: because I wanted to have a perspective from the management side.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want to have just a perspective from what

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing in my ear, because you know how agents

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Speaker 3: can be. I mean, some of them kind of viewed

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Speaker 3: as a little slimy, okay. So I wanted to have

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Speaker 3: somebody the way back then. So I wanted to have

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Speaker 3: somebody that was highly respected from the management side and

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Speaker 3: had a good reputation. And so I gave the list

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Speaker 3: to my dad and he passed it on to Bobby

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Speaker 3: through the mutual friend, and then Bobby came back and

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Speaker 3: gave us some input on the different guys, and I

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Speaker 3: ended up choosing a guy by the name of Brad

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Speaker 3: Blank who was out of Boston and had him my

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Speaker 3: entire career and a great, great input from Bobby Bethard,

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Speaker 3: And that's one of the big reasons why I went

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Speaker 3: down that path. Plenty ahead, we're gonna flip it. That's

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Speaker 3: a good story, by the way, pretty cool. We're back

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Speaker 3: in a moment to discuss defense and Eric Armstead.

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Speaker 2: He's back. He's big man.

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Speaker 3: He's not back, and he's not playing.

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Speaker 2: This week, but he's back.

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Speaker 3: He's off of the pup correct now on the active

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Speaker 3: roster and he can practice now.

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Speaker 7: My goal is to feel good, to feel good and uh,

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Speaker 7: you know, get off to a good start in the

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Speaker 7: season and prepare to have a dominant season, but also

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Speaker 7: at the same time realizing that it's a seventeen game

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Speaker 7: season and you know why. My my goal is always

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Speaker 7: to be my best when my best is needed, and

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Speaker 7: I think I have a great track record of that,

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Speaker 7: and looking at a season as a whole, I want

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Speaker 7: to get off to a good start obviously, but also

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Speaker 7: I want to be, you know, there for my team

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Speaker 7: when they need me the most, in December, in January,

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Speaker 7: in February. So that's always been my goal.

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Speaker 3: It's Eric Armstead, activated from the physically unable to perform

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Speaker 3: lists and out there but still ramping things back up.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy.

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Speaker 3: Hour JP with Jeff Loghian from the Hundai Studios of

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Speaker 3: the Miller Electric Center. Ten to XL ninety two point

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Speaker 3: five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Find us all

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Speaker 3: the places each and every week. Coming up at five

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Speaker 3: o'clock the Doug Peterson Show. We'll have the best of

556
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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson's press conference today. There was a lot going

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Speaker 3: on today getting ready for pre season week two from

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Speaker 3: him coming up and Cooper Hodges, the second year guard

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Speaker 3: from Baker County right here in this area, well Appalachian

560
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Speaker 3: state if you're talking colleges, and had an interesting conversation

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Speaker 3: with him this week. He told me something just before

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Speaker 3: we go to Eric Armstead. Cooper Hodges has never played

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Speaker 3: anything but right tackle in his career prior to playing

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Speaker 3: right guard and left guard the other night.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't Isn't that crazy? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean you would have thought that somewhere along the line,

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Speaker 3: somebody would had him somewhere else at some point.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to him a little bit later tonight.

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Speaker 3: There's plenty to discuss around him, and also plenty about

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Speaker 3: Eric Armstead and a guy who's been at it now

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Speaker 3: going into year ten in the league. He's done it

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Speaker 3: at a high level. He's coming off an injury and

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Speaker 3: the injuries that's that's plural. Doug Peterson said it today.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I don't we don't need him now. We

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Speaker 3: need him basically, we need him when we need him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we need a rush again, that's injuries plural. He had

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Speaker 3: had a couple of things at the end of last

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Speaker 3: year and was able to play a significant with a

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Speaker 3: significant injury to finish the year out. Wait until the

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Speaker 3: end of the season to get some things fixed and look,

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Speaker 3: the the Jaguars defensive front is kind of an interesting group,

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Speaker 3: and I think that that defensive tackle spot, and because

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Speaker 3: I consider him a defensive tackle now on first down,

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Speaker 3: he might end up lining up as a as a

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Speaker 3: left defensive end and four to three or strong end

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Speaker 3: or whatever you want to call it. Like Klay's Campbell

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Speaker 3: used to do. Okay, but once you get the sub

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Speaker 3: which sub is the main stay of defense in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League. He's going to be a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be an edge rusher. So who

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Speaker 3: else can do what he brings to the table on

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Speaker 3: this roster right now? Can you name me a guy

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Speaker 3: looking I'm talking a guy that can pass rush. Robertson

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Speaker 3: Harris is supposed to be that, right. Roy's still kind

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Speaker 3: of working his way back, you know. And and Roy's

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Speaker 3: never been one of these you know, big, you know,

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Speaker 3: dominant pass rushers on the inside. I think the one

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Speaker 3: guy that has a chance and a similar kind of

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Speaker 3: in that the measure of bulls is Mason Smith round right.

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Speaker 2: That was gonna be my next choice.

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Speaker 3: And a rookie right by the way, Mason Smith yesterday

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Speaker 3: and and the practice that you could actually look at

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Speaker 3: and gain some knowledge from he was he had an

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Speaker 3: outstanding one on one pass rush drill and then really

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Speaker 3: did a really good job of carrying over the uh

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Speaker 3: the individual period also into team. I had a conversation

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Speaker 3: with him earlier this week and and I was like,

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Speaker 3: you know how you felt you did and in the game,

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Speaker 3: just how to cry out someone to see what he

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Speaker 3: would say he said, yeah, I kind of was thinking

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Speaker 3: too much. And I said, yeah, I kind of saw that.

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Speaker 3: And I said, but you know, I said, your practices

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Speaker 3: have been great. He goes, yeah, and he goes, you know,

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Speaker 3: when I can just go, I feel good, he said.

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Speaker 3: But I've just got to get to the point where

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Speaker 3: I get into the game and I'm not thinking and

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Speaker 3: I can just go, and when he does, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: be I think, really good. But there's not a lot

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Speaker 3: of defensive tackles that they have on this roster that

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Speaker 3: are gonna be pass rushers or that are there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of them there, the big run stuffing powerful guys

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Speaker 3: like Devon Hamilton and Tyler Lacey and Jeremiah Ledbetter, Jordan Jefferson,

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Speaker 3: the draft pick from Lash. These these are big defensive

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Speaker 3: you know, can't move them, pillars of strength defensive tackles, right.

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Speaker 3: So that's why that's why Armstead, the Mason Smith hopefully

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Speaker 3: roy a little bit. I mean, they're they're hopefully gonna

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Speaker 3: give you something different, you know, something different than just

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Speaker 3: being run stuffers. Because here's the reality is saying a

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Speaker 3: run stuffing league. Let's hear from Josh Hinz Allen on

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Speaker 3: the outside of this defensive line at the end spot

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Speaker 3: discussing this group coming together as camp goes along.

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Speaker 6: Right now, it's just working with the scheme. Now we're

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Speaker 6: all in one group, you know, so we hear the

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Speaker 6: same thing. Coach Ryan is.

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Speaker 2: Really harping on. We rushed as one. We players one.

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Speaker 6: We stopped the runners one, so we can enjoy so

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Speaker 6: we can enjoy the past rush. So just being in

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Speaker 6: a room with those guys, laughing with those guys, getting

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Speaker 6: serious with those guys, knowing those guys outside the building

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Speaker 6: for years has already built that relationship. But now learning together,

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Speaker 6: asking questions together, seeing the way you rush together, just

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Speaker 6: doing all these things together just really makes that cohesive

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Speaker 6: group that we need to play from one for one,

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Speaker 6: that we need to hold each other accountable, and that

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Speaker 6: we love each other. We want everybody to be great

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Speaker 6: because we want to be the best defensive the nice

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Speaker 6: football league.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point, Josh Hein's Allen earlier this week

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Speaker 3: discussing it. Last year, I mean, outside linebackers were separate

650
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Speaker 3: from the defensive line and a lot of areas meetings,

651
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: and I mean it's just different. Now it's all defensive line.

652
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: They're all together, interior, outside the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand it.

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00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Frustrated at times, JP, you know that when I could

655
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Speaker 3: see that in your face, when I would see a

656
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: Josh Allen or a Trayvon Walker in a two point

657
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: stance when it was third and twelve, what are we doing? Okay,

658
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: there's no secret. Okay, we're not going to drop Josh

659
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: in the coverage on third and twelve. Come on, let's

660
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: go just line him up, put the hand in the ground.

661
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: But you know, the one thing I think that is

662
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: a little bit surprising. I was having a conversation with

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Speaker 3: Bo the other day at practice, which BASSELI.

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Speaker 2: I've heard of him.

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00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you heard that guy. Is that what he's nicknamed? Yeah,

666
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: I call him. So I'm sitting there having a conversation

667
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Speaker 3: with him. I'm like, yeah, I said, you know, Josh

668
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: is Josh looks good? And he goes, yeah, you know,

669
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: he's bigger, and I was like, he was bigger last year. No, no, no,

670
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: he's bigger this year too. And I was like, no,

671
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: he's not that much, but he was like to seventy

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Speaker 3: five last year. So after practice I went up Josh

673
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: and I said, Josh, you know what's your way at.

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00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: And he's like two eighty five.

675
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, huh. He said yeah, And I said, are

676
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: you kidding me? And he goes no, he goes, I

677
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: feel good. So he got bigger last year because you know,

678
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago he was down in the

679
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: sixties and then last year he you know, put the

680
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: extra weight on and I think he got up around

681
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: seventy seventy five and now he's up to eighty five.

682
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: Trayvon's at eighty five two. I mean, what's that commercial

683
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: at lady saying where's the beef? Yeah, it's right there.

684
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: That's a lot of human being, both of them. There's

685
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 3: a lot of size on this Jack too. It's not

686
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 3: like they're I mean they are moving. Josh yesterday and

687
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: one on one pass rush, I mean, just had a

688
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: great drill against Tristan Warfs and then he had a

689
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 3: move on the left side to where he came back

690
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,280
Speaker 3: underneath on the offensive tackle, beat him like a drum,

691
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: had a move in, moved in at guard, beat Britis

692
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: in the start and left guard for the Tampa Bay Bucks.

693
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Josh, I'm talking on fire in one on

694
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: one pass rush yesterday, great drill for him real quick.

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Speaker 2: How many defensive linemen will they keep? Nine? Ish?

696
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Speaker 3: I mean the number is always you know, when you're

697
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: rotating guys in the number floats right around between nine

698
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: and ten, you know, So I think nine or ten.

699
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: And if you're trying to keep the best guys on

700
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 3: your football team, if it's going to be nine, then

701
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 3: that means you got another position of strength. Maybe you're

702
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: really good at cornerback or really good at safety, or

703
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: really good at linebacker. I don't think they're super good

704
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: at any of those other positions, so I think the

705
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: number could be ten, But I don't know. I think

706
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: it comes down to how you are from a health

707
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 3: standpoint at that position and other positions to where they

708
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 3: are going.

709
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 2: To have to have a little conversation about it. Yeah,

710
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: and then depth at the edge spot.

711
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: But you know, ballpark, JP, I mean, you know you're

712
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 3: looking at nine or ten at defensive line because you're

713
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: talking four positions there. Linebacker, you're looking at five, six, seven,

714
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: defensive back, nine, ten, you know, somewhere in that range.

715
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: So you know, because you could keep what you figure

716
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: twenty five on each side of the ball, right, I

717
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: mean fifty three, So twenty five to twenty five and

718
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: a three specialists. You know, if you're looking at numbers,

719
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: so hey, the reps are getting shorter. I mean you

720
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Speaker 3: got preseason week two starters aren't going to go. This

721
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: is a good opportunity for guys that are trying to

722
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440
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Speaker 3: We're at the Honday studios of the Miller Electric Center.

742
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Speaker 3: Time now logs for the inport presented by Baptist Health,

743
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Speaker 3: changing health Care for Good. Eight Jaguars players missed practice

744
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Running back Keelan Robinson with a toe issue

745
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: that won't go away, Patrick Murtogg with the ankle. Of course,

746
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: that was a significant injury on the practice field last week.

747
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: Safety Daniel Thomas held out with a heel issue today,

748
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: Andrew Wingard, of course a knee lingering knee issue will

749
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 3: be a little bit. It sounds like Christian Kirk off

750
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 3: to the side today with a calf issue. Nothing major,

751
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: Doug Peterson said, just kind of taking a precaution there

752
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: to Sean Gibson and Eric Armstead off to the side

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Speaker 3: as well as they ramp up to get on the

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Speaker 3: practice field. And Peterson actually said the injury to Kirk

755
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: was mild and the Thomas absence, Daniel Thomas precautionary.

756
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Speaker 2: That's the actual quote. So there you have it. That's

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00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: the injury report.

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00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: Injuries are always minor to those other than yourself.

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: It's a good point. It's an excellent point. Yeah, yeah,

760
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: it really is.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully Christian Kirk is fine. I mean he look fine.

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00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: Keilon Robinson, I'm just kind of curious about him. He's

763
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: the draft pick out of Texas and kick return specialists there,

764
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: mainly running back by trade and was kind of used

765
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: a lot more in the wide game, passing game in

766
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: the offense at Texas and just haven't really seen him

767
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: in pads at all yet. I think he may be

768
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Speaker 3: a guy that you're gonna have to put on IR.

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00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean, because here's the reality.

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Speaker 3: Let's say, you know, we've seen him at practice like

771
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: in a boot, right, yeah, So let's say he comes

772
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Speaker 3: back next week. That gives him one week of practice

773
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Speaker 3: for you to make an honest evaluation. Is that is

774
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: that fair? I mean, you can't go from a boot

775
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: to be in full go. So my guess is is

776
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: that he is destined to the practice squad and at

777
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 3: some point, but IR to start the year, I mean,

778
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 3: just look at the other running backs that are around

779
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: here too. I mean you've got Travis Etn, Tank Bigsby,

780
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: Jernis Johnson. I mean those are the three right now.

781
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: The other guys that are out there, Jalen Jackson and

782
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Speaker 3: Gary Brightwell. Jalen Jackson has He's kind of an interesting watch.

783
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Speaker 3: I think he's a I think you're gonna go three

784
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Speaker 3: running backs if I had to guess to start the season.

785
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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

786
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Speaker 3: And I think Jalen Jackson is a guy that you

787
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: would put on practice squad and h in my opinion,

788
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: he's been very He's a very fast.

789
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Speaker 2: Back by the way when you watch him.

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Speaker 3: And then for Keilan Robinson, I'm thinking that he's an

791
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Speaker 3: IR guy. Now, Is that I R for the year?

792
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: Is that IR to start the season? I don't know

793
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: kind of exactly how the rules work. I know that's

794
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: a little different, and that in the past you used

795
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Speaker 3: to have to carry somebody on the fifty three to

796
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Speaker 3: put them on IR in order to pull him off

797
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Speaker 3: of IR.

798
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 2: That's not the rule anymore, though. Yeah, they keep switching

799
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Speaker 2: that around.

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Speaker 3: The way that I understand it, the way I understand

801
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: it now is that you can have a guy designated

802
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: to IR that can be returned off of IR instead

803
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: of losing, you know, a spot on the fifty third,

804
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: using or sacrificing a spot on the fifty three to

805
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: get a guy to IR, to get them to come

806
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: back active during the season, You're.

807
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Speaker 2: Gonna have two guys this year? Is it two active?

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00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: They just they That's what the change was, this most

809
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: recent change. Yeah, but I'm talking about going into and

810
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 3: going into the season. I don't know how many can

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Speaker 3: you you know, can you if let's say you got

812
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: seven guys that are hurt, can you designate all seven

813
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: to IR going in okay that could come back? Or

814
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 3: is that only too well? I wonder if you even

815
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: have to designate them until they come back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

817
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta get a little clarification on that.

818
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: That's one of the rules that I actually had a

819
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: conversation with Trent Balky today, but I've got to and

820
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: we talked a little bit about that, but I didn't

821
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 3: get specifics on that.

822
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: So I'll follow up with him, and hey, we got time.

823
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: There's two weeks left in the preseason and you can

824
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: figure some things out.

825
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: The rules are the rules are so different I mean

826
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Speaker 3: even like practice squad rules, I mean the number of

827
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Speaker 3: guys that you can have that are you know, older

828
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: and younger and all that stuff, and you know what

829
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: you can as far as elevating them the active on

830
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: game day, it's it's a lot to understand because it's basically,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's fifty three active and then what's sixteen

832
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 3: on the practice squad? Sixteen on the practice squad. But

833
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: then there's again certain guys you know you can have,

834
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: you can bring them up and down, certain number of

835
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 3: guys that are older and then that's right, are all

836
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Speaker 3: younger if you want to, But there's a limit on

837
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 3: the number of older guys I think that you can have.

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00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: But but basically the COVID rules stuck around for the

839
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Speaker 3: practice squad. They expanded it out and gave you less

840
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: restrictions on how many you know, ups and downs you

841
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: can do. So they've kept that, which it's essentially, you

842
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 3: have sixty nine players on your team during the regular season,

843
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: sixteen just happened to be on the practice squad, and

844
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 3: you can elevate it certain guys well, and then it's

845
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: good and then you know the other guys opportunities that

846
00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: might not have had it before. Well, the other guy

847
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: that we'll have a conversation about because it relates to

848
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: the roster, is to Sean Gibson, where.

849
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Speaker 2: Does he fit in all of that? You know, I

850
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: did get.

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00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: Some clarification on that my conversation with Trent Balkey today.

852
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: And so to Sean Gibson is on the roster when

853
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: the season starts, he is moved to the suspended list,

854
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 3: so he does not count on the Jaguars roster at all.

855
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: So he will be there on the suspended list for

856
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: six weeks. After six weeks, he will come off of

857
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: the suspended list and return to the team, but initially

858
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 3: he will not count as a member of the fifty three.

859
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: There's a little grace period that the NFL grants players

860
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: coming off the suspended list in order for them to

861
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: get time to get kind of back with the team,

862
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: in shape, practicing, et cetera. Now, is that going to

863
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: be one week or is that going to be kind

864
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: of a two week exemption? Not sure, it will be

865
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: at least a week, and then and then you've got

866
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: to pay him once he comes off of the suspended list.

867
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: And then at that point you have to make a

868
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 3: decision once he's off the exempt list, do you activate

869
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: him to the fifty three, which you would have to

870
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: take somebody off of the fifty three, or do you

871
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: release him. So I think it's a very smart move. Look,

872
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 3: if you have an issue at safety, hey you just.

873
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Kind of wait and see. You got to kind of

874
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 2: guy itself.

875
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: It's a low risk, low cost move with Deshaun Gibson,

876
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: who's still a good football player. And so if you

877
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: have an issue, let's say winger is having a problem

878
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: getting back, you have an injury to one of your

879
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: safeties in the first six weeks of the season, Well

880
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: you've trained to sean Gibson in a couple weeks that

881
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: you got him here in training camp so that when

882
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: he does come off of the suspended list then he

883
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: could be ready to go per se.

884
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: So I think it's a.

885
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: Very good shrewd move for a team when your expectations

886
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: are that, hey, look you're going to compete, okay for

887
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: the whole thing. That's a really good move in my opinion.

888
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: I loved here in his press conngreence because he hadn't

889
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: heard from him here obviously since he was on the team.

890
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: He was here for three seasons and part of a

891
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: team that was a cast of characters, let's say on

892
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 3: the defense, right. So he was a piece of that,

893
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: of course, but to be back now and to be

894
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: in year thirteen in the NFL. He said that one

895
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 3: of his teammates came up to him the other day

896
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: and said, you know, I watched you when I was

897
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: in seventh grade. That's kind of rude awakening was It

898
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: was interesting too. You also had the line that he said, look,

899
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: I'm old enough to be some of these guys dad,

900
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 3: And I'll never.

901
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: Forget when I came in the league.

902
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: I walked in the locker room and there was a

903
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 3: guy from Louisiana Tech I think it was, and he

904
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: was an offensive guard and his name was Dan Alexander

905
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 3: War number sixty. And Dan played the game and he

906
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 3: wore these spot built turf cleats that were look they

907
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: looked like work boots, okay, and I'll have to show

908
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: you a picture of him.

909
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: They were super stiff.

910
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 3: And back then there were there's no such thing as

911
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: Liman gloves jp R receivers gloves. They didn't exist. The

912
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: offensive lineman back then, they would go to garden centers

913
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 3: and buy garden gloves essentially and then tape them up

914
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: and that was what they wore in the game. And

915
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: so that was Dan, you know, old school, and he

916
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: was old enough to be my dad. I want to

917
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: say he was in like.

918
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Year fifteen or fourteen or something like that.

919
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Dan Alexander what to LSU not LSU,

920
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: but was from the Jets from seventy seven to eighty nine.

921
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Long time, A long time I

922
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 2: met Tell.

923
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: He didn't say much either, I thought, I know, and

924
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: everybody was like, you got They were like surprised that

925
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 3: he came up and talked to me, because Dan didn't

926
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: normally talk to rookies. But Dan said to all these

927
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 3: guys later on, he said, look, I figured I better

928
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: talk with Loghman because I knew that this was going

929
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: to be my last year and I wasn't going to

930
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: be around long enough to get to know him if

931
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: I treated him like a normal rookie in years.

932
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: Past, Hilarious played one hundred and ninety two games.

933
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was good too, now, a good, solid, dependable,

934
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: always available, durable, good guy. Owned a bar back in Louisiana.

935
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 3: And needless to say, Dan like to have a couple

936
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 3: of cold ones. Yeah, I see if he's not too many.

937
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: He didn't have too many, but he liked to have

938
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: cold beer. Coming up the Doug Peterson Show in just

939
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 3: a few minutes on the Jaguars Radio Network and right

940
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 3: here on ten ten XEL. The head coach coming off

941
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: joint practices and actually spoke today with the media going

942
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: into the second joint practice. We'll here's some of the

943
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: best of his press conference from earlier today. And you know,

944
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: I think coming out of last week's game, it seemed

945
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 3: like he felt the team was in a pretty good mindset.

946
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: They played hard, they played aggressive, they didn't have many penalties,

947
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 3: they didn't turn the ball over, there was a lot

948
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: of energy from the sideline when some of the backup

949
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: players are in making plays, and those are all positive

950
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 3: things from last week that they could carry over into

951
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,479
Speaker 3: this week well. And I think having a clean game

952
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: like that is doing large part to play the three quarterbacks.

953
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: You know, you look at a lot of teams around

954
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: the league and they have three quarterbacks and the backup

955
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 3: and even the third quarterback, or definitely the third quarterback

956
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: in most cases, a very young, inexperienced quarterback. Well with

957
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: the Jaguars, you have two quarterbacks that were high picks,

958
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 3: played a lot of football, another one that's been around

959
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: the block a long time in CJ.

960
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: Betherd.

961
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: So the management of the offense and the protecting of

962
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: the ball is I think at a higher level than

963
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: it would be compared to like other teams that have

964
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. So I expect this team to play well,

965
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 3: to be clean on offense, protect the ball, and to

966
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 3: be perfectly honest with you, I expect them to win

967
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: all the preseason games, you know, because they have three

968
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are going to be playing in the preseason

969
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 3: that are probably going to be better than the other

970
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: team's quarterbacks.

971
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 2: So so looking forward to that.

972
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: But the best part about having quarterbacks like they have

973
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: here in the quarterback room is that now you can

974
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: evaluate the other positions. Okay, when the quarterback is operating

975
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: in the offense at a pretty decent level, I don't

976
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: have to say high level, but at a good level,

977
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 3: it allows everybody else to be able to do their jobs.

978
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 3: And when everybody else can do their jobs, it allows

979
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 3: them to be cleaner and also to showcase their skill

980
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 3: set instead of being limited because the quarterback has limited experience.

981
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: So an example, if a wide receiver is running the

982
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: greatest route in the world, but you got a rookie

983
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: quarterback who doesn't know the good route, and when he's open, nobody.

984
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 2: Knows right or throws it behind him or yeah, nobody knows.

985
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Nobody knows.

986
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: But when it's executed right and the ball's there and

987
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: you know the quarterback's also converting first downs at other times,

988
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: it makes everything look better and function at a higher level.

989
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: And that's what you want. That's what they should expect,

990
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: and that's what they're getting. Teams are both practicing tomorrow,

991
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 3: but not against each other, but they'll get to find

992
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: their final work in before the game on Saturday seven thirty.

993
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 3: Kickoff at the Bank for the Buccaneers and the Jaguars.

994
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 3: Preseason Week two. A lot of Mac Jones, a lot

995
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 3: of CJ. Bethard expected, and some players it may not

996
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: be labeled as starters right now, but big opportunity for

997
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: a lot of guys ahead coming up next and if

998
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 3: and if mac Jones starts, will be the I haven't

999
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: seen him start since he started at Bowls in person.

1000
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: Oh well you might be about to maybe again. We'll

1001
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: see Doug Peterson Show's coming up next. That'll do it

1002
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 3: for Jaguars Happy Hour