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Speaker 1: Next flowing down the sidelines, he is Hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you all for joining us here at the SWBC

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Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios for another edition of Hanging with the Boys

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Speaker 1: and poppit a rocket with the best guys. I'm HECKM. Harrison,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta introduce my guy. Gotta introduce my guys.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels to my right, former ward receiving for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, I said, staying back a Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 1: and also my guy solely be becoming one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite people in the whole world. This guy, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 1: is a truth telling me and I love it when

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Speaker 1: he's here. But you know he's guys, get one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: The truth is going to be delivered here and hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Boys guys, how y'all doing today? I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I always love people like, oh yeah, he tells, But

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Speaker 1: no one when I tell the truth and I get fired,

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Speaker 1: no one is like going back up. No one's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let me cash up you dollar to make sure the

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Speaker 1: light bills stick. It's kind of like somebody happy that

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Speaker 1: you stand up for yourself, but when you when you

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Speaker 1: need to get billed out, nobody's gonna just let's just know.

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Speaker 1: When I keep this truth going and they'd say you

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Speaker 1: got to go, I gotta go, just you know, let

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Speaker 1: let everybody know that, Hey, I'm an take some of

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Speaker 1: this money and send it to Jesse because he got bills. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll make that happen. It's on film. It's

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Speaker 1: on film. And they told me on the film that

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Speaker 1: he was gonna take me. Are you gonna you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, he's gonna allow to be again? So

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Speaker 1: I know the pain, give me something. I write that

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Speaker 1: with you don't don't put me in there. I experienced

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Speaker 1: that sad trauma, all right. And it's speaking of trauma.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of trauma, there's a very expensive shoulder in Oxnard,

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Speaker 1: California that it's a professional segue. Heck, you know what,

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Speaker 1: that's the professional segue. How you put the words together

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Speaker 1: and just went from our chaos and then you just

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Speaker 1: roll that in. My god, you've had a hell of

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Speaker 1: a week. Man, I want to tell you, you've had

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Speaker 1: a hell of a week running this show. Brother, you've

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Speaker 1: had a You got some teach tape right here, that's week.

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Speaker 1: Rather take this week and basking basket and not the people.

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Speaker 1: Get it on the flash yeah, get it on the

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Speaker 1: flash drive. A second, when they fire your badge the work,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get this stuff on the flash drive while

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Speaker 1: you still employed. I'm not telling something that I heard.

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Speaker 1: You're telling me what you know from experience. When you

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Speaker 1: got the goods, get it on the flash yeah, get

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Speaker 1: it on the some to the tunnel drive. Because when

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Speaker 1: you got when they fire you, your key, don't work.

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Speaker 1: Folks being being like walk you out, k they get

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Speaker 1: security to start up. Man, you give me a complimenting

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Speaker 1: you fired me out in the same say you've had

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Speaker 1: a hell of a week. Don't don't don't basking the

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Speaker 1: glory without getting it on the flash drive. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get the flash thank you. So going back to my

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Speaker 1: trauma and this hundred and sixty million dollars shoulder. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels helped me out, man, because I have my

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Speaker 1: hand on the button ready to freak out, and you

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Speaker 1: know something that I don't know, So please list well.

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Speaker 1: I don't know near as much as you probably know.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of right there with you, though, it's concerned.

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Speaker 1: They've said it's a mild strain and it'd be a

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Speaker 1: is McCarthy keeps saying it's a fatigue injury. Well, just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days off, no big deal. But if

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Speaker 1: you look at strain, a strain is at least a

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Speaker 1: if I'm a baseball pitcher and I've got a shoulder strain, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that seems serious. They're kind they're kind of talking like

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Speaker 1: this is isn't that big a deal? Which quarterbacks got

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Speaker 1: let's get out of that. Um. Yeah, So I just

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Speaker 1: happened to play this position of quarterback for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, prior to being drafted by the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: through all my years of playing quarterback, through all my

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Speaker 1: try to minimize something, um that is good. That is

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna cut him some bail. I'm gonna cut

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, I'm gonna cut that some bail and say,

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Speaker 1: you got it, fatigue. I don't think exactly you said

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Speaker 1: hearing that Dak isn't throwing in practice or he's still

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Speaker 1: Let's slift that up. Let's lift that up and and

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Speaker 1: hover around that panic button Likeeody like Jeopardy, like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're on close to Yeah, what does this do? Like physically,

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Speaker 1: Not having him out there? They know, they know what

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Speaker 1: I played for my time in Dallas. Jason Garrett was

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Speaker 1: And and you build up this tolerance, like you said,

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Speaker 1: phone with us from aston ardor somewhere on the highway

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Speaker 1: like to just go few. Man. It gives me peace, man,

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Speaker 1: to know that I did Jessel right way and trying

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Speaker 1: to raise him. You didn't do be the right way.

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Speaker 1: That lake should not give you peace because I should

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Speaker 1: be with you. Ask me, fine, this is a lake.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't take too y. I need a little

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Speaker 1: California would have brought me that. But instead you're selfish

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Speaker 1: and you went by yourself. I'm not selfing, Jess. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: Why can I do to make it up here? Sure?

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Speaker 1: Nate even takes his wife on these road trip he know,

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Speaker 1: we know. Yeah, quiet man, what are you guys doing? Man?

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Speaker 1: What are y'all talking about? Man? We're talking about guys

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Speaker 1: on the bubble? Nate and so we had a few

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Speaker 1: guys that we wanted to go over with you. But

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you, man, since you've been there, and who

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Speaker 1: for for you? Especially with the fans expecting a certain

546
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Speaker 1: amount of guys or stars to make the team, who

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Speaker 1: are some big names that you're seeing with the competition

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Speaker 1: that are firmly placed on the bubble right now? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, I don't I don't have no

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Speaker 1: bubble guys, because I try to stay open at this

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Speaker 1: point to to to anybody making it, because this team

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: has a history of guys uh building more momentum, and

553
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like wow, he made the roster.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just waiting to see who catch you on fire.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I but I'm getting a field

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Speaker 1: is a lot of people trying to take Noah Brown

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Speaker 1: out of this scene. They trying to make it where

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Speaker 1: this guy don't don't don't make it for some reason

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Speaker 1: because one of the other receivers aside show N's head,

560
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Speaker 1: the Malik Turners of the world. You know, they're looking

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Speaker 1: good at the draft picks. They're looking good. So all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, my man is just getting getting you know,

563
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Speaker 1: nor it's getting taken out of the picture. He's a

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Speaker 1: special teams guy and he's a great blocker. I know

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Speaker 1: that man, I mean much in today's NFL with the Cowboyds,

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Speaker 1: but that is an asset in the league. And then

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Speaker 1: another guy I'm thinking man is Maurice Kennedy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they feel about him, but every

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Speaker 1: time you turn around, he's batting balls down. He's getting

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Speaker 1: the interceptions, you know, And I don't know if he's

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Speaker 1: a bubble guy, but he's he's got to be in

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Speaker 1: the mix. He's got to be in the mix. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're saying that, if Maurice Kennedy is showing out,

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Speaker 1: then that would make George Jay Lew potential bubble guy

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Speaker 1: because he's been hurt for the last couple of practices

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Speaker 1: that have given Maurice Kennedy an opportunity to make these impressions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot of people. Man. When you

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Speaker 1: got ninety guys and you're trying to focus on on

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Speaker 1: one or two guys, it's just hard to do, man.

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Speaker 1: But everybody. I talked to Dan Quinn and uh, he said,

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Speaker 1: a different package, and just to see where everybody fit. Man.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, man, it's so many corners, there's

585
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Speaker 1: so many safeties. And with them bringing in this new guy, well,

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Speaker 1: I can't think of the name right now, just so

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Speaker 1: many who that no Malik Malik, They'm bringing in Malik. Uh,

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Speaker 1: It's just hard to tell, man. And to these to

589
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Speaker 1: everybody is healthy and everybody's out there trying to perform.

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Speaker 1: You just don't know. I mean, who are some of

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Speaker 1: the bubble guys y'all are thinking about? But I had

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Speaker 1: a question for Nate that yesterday Stephen Jones said that, um,

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Speaker 1: there's like sixty five guys and right now who can

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Speaker 1: make the fifty three roster? Do you think that's true?

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Speaker 1: Are they really? Because that seems like a lot of

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Speaker 1: times from guys go to camp, there's maybe one or

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Speaker 1: two premature statement too. No. No, The reason I think

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Speaker 1: he says this is because our defense is new. Our

599
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Speaker 1: defense is new, and I defensive coordinator's new, and he's

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Speaker 1: fought in a certain amount of guys that he wants

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Speaker 1: to make this team. Uh. You know the KZ guy

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Speaker 1: uh is doing big things that defense. He got an

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Speaker 1: interception in a bat down yesterday. So with with have

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Speaker 1: been a new defensive coordinator with a with a new mindset.

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Speaker 1: And when I talked to coach Dan Quinn, he was

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Speaker 1: so big on Joseph Hamilton, he was big on Bohanna

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Speaker 1: and the big kid out of Kentucky, you know he

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Speaker 1: and I asked, well, how do you planning to play

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Speaker 1: these guys? He say during the preseason. I'm hoping that

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Speaker 1: every basic nickel or not nickel package, but every base

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Speaker 1: uh base defense. Well, I want these guys in firsts

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Speaker 1: can down. I want to really see what they can

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Speaker 1: do it give themselves a chance to be on this

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Speaker 1: roster so it can be a different looking roster. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: we know what the offense holds, we know who these

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Speaker 1: guys is, but coach really believes that by them giving

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you what I can do with this player.

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Speaker 1: And I know every coach does that, and every Scott

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Speaker 1: does that, projects and has a plan of how they

623
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Speaker 1: want to see these players perform. But they're really giving

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Speaker 1: him a freedom to move around and a freedom to say,

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Speaker 1: these are the guys that we want. So a lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys on this roster that they're new guys anyway,

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Speaker 1: first year, second year guys, rookies, free agents. The only

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Speaker 1: hole overs is what our linebackers one defensive to a

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Speaker 1: couple of defense events. Everybody else is basically new. I

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Speaker 1: mean you don't hear a lot of by Jordan Lewis,

631
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635
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637
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: and and and on the defense offensive, we know who

638
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: we are, we know where they know who they are

639
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: going from guys that are on the bubble to a

640
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: guy that we know is his spots solidified, but right

641
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: now he's out with a fatigue injury. From your standpoint

642
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: with boots on the ground, we heard Mike McCarthy said

643
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: about that just missing a few days because of fatigue.

644
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: What is your feel for that situation is something that

645
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: we believe because we we we've been we were falling

646
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: for the bland Ntel piper couple, bamboo bamboos. Enough they

647
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: give when they give us these reports about timelines in

648
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: the in the in the severity of injuries. From what

649
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: you've seen, do you think it's just a couple of

650
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: days or does it look like it could potentially be

651
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: a little bit more than what they're leading on or

652
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: leading us to believe. Okay, this is what the day

653
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that he had his injury, right, Okay, he came out

654
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: there and did a six thirty deal, this time with

655
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: the TV media. He did that for about an hour.

656
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: Then we was all going in lunch and he pulls

657
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: up next to me and Shannon. We're on the car.

658
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: He pulls up next to us kind of racing us.

659
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, if this guy has really hurt, they wouldn't

660
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: be letting him on this little bicycle racing us next

661
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: side by side. And then the next day he went

662
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: through all of the motions with the quarterbacks, through the ropes,

663
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: jumping up and down during the fake um uh, you

664
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: know how they're trying to act make they got somebody

665
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: rushing up. How they he faked that. I don't know

666
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: how they do that from side to side. But anyway,

667
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: but he did everything, and he even put his hands

668
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: up in the air. But he never threw a ball.

669
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: He never threw a ball. I saw him toss a

670
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: few balls underhanded. I just think if it was a lost,

671
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: if it was serious, I wouldn't I would think they

672
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: were just having on the sideline, helmet off, doing nothing,

673
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: but they letting him do everything except throw the ball.

674
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: And now with the day off, we'll see when tomorrow come,

675
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: let's see what they see, what they allowed him to do.

676
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: And I'll be glad to call you, guys, or whatever

677
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: it is to let y'all know it. Just call then

678
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what I see. But seemed like

679
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: to me he's smiling. Yesterday he got slammed with a cake.

680
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: Buy his offensive limber. He used his right hand and

681
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: wipe all the cake off his face. So I mean, hey, man,

682
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: did he wave to the crowd with his right hand?

683
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: So a guy? That just what? I just don't think

684
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: that when you give a guy a type of money

685
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: they have given him and they have bestowed, then you

686
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: are truly our keenan leader. I don't think. I think

687
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: if it was anything serious, they would not have him

688
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: out there doing the things that he's doing. Interesting, feel it, Nick, No,

689
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 1: I was up men as Isaiah, how you doing good

690
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: to hear your voice, man, I appreciate the insight from

691
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: down there. You be in our eyes and ears down there,

692
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: But in terms of you know, this conversation we're having

693
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: as far as guys that are potentially on the bubble

694
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: at this point in camp. Now, obviously we noticed maybe

695
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: a premature conversation, but I know as soon as we

696
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: have as soon as we bring this topic up, the

697
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: first thing that comes in my mind is the receiver

698
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: position and somebody that may have been drafted this year

699
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: in the name of Semi for Hoko, and I am worried.

700
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: I want to I don't. I don't want to put

701
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: him on notice, but I want him his antennas to

702
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: go up to let him notice. And the rest assured

703
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: that as a fifth round draft pick with the team

704
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: at this position that's so deep that the receiver position,

705
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: that your spot is not secure, and I wanted to

706
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: get you're insight to see what your thoughts are with that.

707
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: And far as that number five, number six, but receiver position,

708
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: he has made some plays. Uh he's caught involving this

709
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: when they're thrown into him. But but like I tell people, uh,

710
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, will be hard for

711
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: a filth rounder to make the team. And the five

712
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: guys I got making the team, will he'd be a

713
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: six guy that they would take a chance and going

714
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: through waivers and putting on the practice squad. I don't know,

715
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: we just have to get a little more work in.

716
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: He's he looks good. And I heard Budget Brooks saying

717
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: he don't look as big in person as he did

718
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: when he was in school. And I'm like, you know,

719
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: but he's a big kid. But he got some bounce

720
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: to him. Man. When they playing all that music. Man,

721
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: the brothers ain't got nothing on this dude. Man, And

722
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: you'd be founding and flowing with him. So he's spitting

723
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: right in. He's catching the balls when they're throwing to him.

724
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: So we'll see about your guy. Man, all right, julian

725
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: Us live here at the SWBC Mortgage Studios is Nate

726
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Newton from Parts Unknown out in Oxnard, California. No, you

727
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: said you're at a hidden lake. You're going to a

728
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: hidden lake. Inn to a hidden lake. Man, I'll be

729
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: driving to a looking at these communities. Instead of looking

730
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: at the towns, I'm looking at in the name of

731
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: the towns. And I'm justide in front of some pet

732
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: story camouflaged I'm out somewhere, man, I'm just having fun. Well, Nate, look,

733
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you that the offensive line right now,

734
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: Conor mc governor and Couna Williams that they are not

735
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: in a position battle, but you're hearing a lot about

736
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Connor Williams working in at the center position as well.

737
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Connor mc governor and the

738
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: job that he's doing, and also how do you feel

739
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: about Conor Williams and that switch possibly to center. I

740
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: watched I watched Connel Williams at center and people, you know,

741
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: people said, well, you know, I've been telling you it's

742
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: early in Caunt. He needs to hurry up because he

743
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: needs to understand that we can't have the ball on

744
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: the ground, we can't have it going over guy's head.

745
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: To want to help the team and to be able

746
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: to help the team, it's two different things. He's still

747
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: that same guy as getting pushed back. Who's you know,

748
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: he's just an all right guy. He's he's just an

749
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: all right guy. You know. He's a better guard, you know.

750
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And uh, I haven't watched a lot of Connor because

751
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: I've been watching the other guy, number seventy nine, Nisky,

752
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: I think it's his name. I have watched him all

753
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: day yesterday, But he's Connor. I loved it when they

754
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: drafted him I was one of his biggest fans and

755
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: I'm still I still am because he's a dependable guy.

756
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: He's a guy that can plug in at one position,

757
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: but as a backup center, I just don't know they've

758
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: been working. Braylon James the one of the young guys

759
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: at center too. And it's just after we get past

760
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 1: our first team center. Man who it's scary, Man, it's scary.

761
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: It's a it's a as a roller coaster ride, Nate.

762
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: I was asking going to ask you about tar Nevsky

763
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: and some of the tackles. I mean, the team normally

764
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: keeps four, I think, and right now behind Collins and Smith,

765
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: you got Terrence Steele, Brandon Knight, Netsky sorry'm Bruchner's name,

766
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: and the kid they drafted, Josh Ball. I mean, you

767
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: got some young guys there, and Steele and Knight who

768
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: saw a lot of action last year. I know they

769
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: struggled at times, but you know they're ten years younger

770
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: than Netsky, and they're you know, they're half half his paycheck,

771
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: I think is half is what they're paying him. So

772
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, is who among those guys, those backup tackles,

773
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: who do you think might be on the bubble there.

774
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: Steele has been very consistent. He's in very consistent. Uh

775
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: night is okay? U? And I watched the guy you know,

776
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: uh stomach seventy nine. I hope in the nisky. I

777
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: hope I'm pronouncing it right. He looked it okay. I

778
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: mean he looked more than okay. He held up against

779
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: Gregory yesterday. Gregor was trying to take to him, and

780
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I think he got him on maybe one or two

781
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: times on maybe thirty maybe fifteen snaps or twenty snaps.

782
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: So and he did good against our best him. I

783
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: don't know how good he is. We need a preseason

784
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: to see how good he is. But he's working so

785
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: right now. I think number seventy nine, you know, I

786
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: don't want to. I can't pronounce his name right. Number

787
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 1: seventy nine doing a better job still would be next.

788
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: And then Josh Ball needs work. He needs to know

789
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: that he's dealing with grown men in college. A lot

790
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: of times guys be catching a Guys should dominate their

791
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: college opponents. And when you're dealing with grown men, people

792
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: that's got something behind their neck, bro, it's a little

793
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: bit different. So, uh, they're doing okay, But right now

794
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: still is leading it along with the nisky guy. They're

795
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: leading it at this point in time. I know they

796
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: were like for Josh Ball to take over in preseason

797
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: to tell us because they would see a lot and

798
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: then I wasn't thinking about this. They have an another

799
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: preseason game within two days because the Rams come in here. Bro,

800
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: the Rams coming here, they won't be a had a

801
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: preseason game, So there a lot of their veterans gonna

802
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: be ready to be the practice and you know we'll

803
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: we'll find out real quick. You know, when I know

804
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: the ninety nine who's rated Maden ninety nine, get on

805
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: some heads something now we'll seek by Fred. Believe me,

806
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: that's what they can do. That surprised you guys are

807
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: they're having that practice two days after a preseason game. No, no,

808
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: because they none of the veterans that counts are gonna practice,

809
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: and none of the veterans that's gonna count is gonna

810
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: play in the in the Hall of Fame game. If

811
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: we have guys that are start us, I mean our

812
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: stud players, especially on offense. Now you may have some

813
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: difference and a variety of players on defense because we

814
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: don't know who these guys there. But we know Zack

815
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: martin Is, we know Tyron Smithfields, we know liell Is,

816
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: we know what those guys is. You know, and so

817
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: the center and the left guard we know. We'd be

818
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: basically know that that the center may need a little

819
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: extra work. You may tap him in for just a series,

820
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: but you don't need to be messing around. Man. And lord,

821
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: let me say this before we get off the air man.

822
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: That number eighty eight, that number eight, that number he

823
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: is killing folks. We've had the ambulance come out here

824
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: six seven times. Care Flight Unit, get burning dudes up

825
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: fifth and sixty crew. You know we talk about we

826
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: talk about number ninety nine from the RAMS coming in

827
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: next week. I look forward to the Jayalen Ramsey clad

828
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: matchup because now you're gonna now you're gonna see. I

829
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: don't doubt one. I think CD is a special, special,

830
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: special guy. But I know what right. We always as

831
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: a as a as a collective unit, want to push

832
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: everybody to start him, everybody to be an everybody to

833
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: be the next famer. Yes, sir, we're gonna see his

834
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: emotional inteller like we like when you go up against

835
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, who gonna get into you athletically, gonna get

836
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: into you mentally right now. Now, that's when you separate yourself. Okay,

837
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: you you schooling, take Digs and and and Kelvin and

838
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: all those guys. Great, you're supposed to work those dudes. Now,

839
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: if you come back to me next week and like, listen,

840
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: Jess boy, ceed he got all up in Jalen Ramsey's

841
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: you know what now you're cooking with Now you cooking

842
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: with fish grease baby. Now. But you know how I

843
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: look at this, Uh, brother, is I want Jalen to

844
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: come and get up in and so he can learn,

845
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: absolutely so so he can prompt. For man, this is

846
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: type of dude. He gonna want this, He gonna want this. No,

847
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna win many of them. But when he

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Speaker 1: comes up out of that, you talk about cooking the

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Speaker 1: deep and on file. You know, saying yes, sir, I agree,

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Speaker 1: to a new level. No, I'm with you on that, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to have three times Super Bowl champion

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860
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861
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Speaker 1: Hey Bay Newton, Man, I prevent you all, you guys,

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Speaker 1: but I'm loving all you gotta believe me. Man, we

868
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869
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Speaker 1: that's a different level. But I am trying to recruit

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Speaker 1: and you got you gotta throwing love for Bucky. Now y'all, Now,

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Speaker 1: by my guys, Kurt, Daniel, Isaiah saying back and Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Holly and Fellas last segment. You know, I've been doing

933
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Speaker 1: my what the heck? And so instead of me kicking

934
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Speaker 1: it off because Jesse, I know you have one, I

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Speaker 1: want to swing it over to you. What you got?

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Speaker 1: right in front of you, min What the heck? Goes

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Speaker 1: out to our boss Derek Eagleton. Yeah, what the hell?

941
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Speaker 1: Because and here's why I'm gonna get myself fired. I

942
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: like this, but the what the heck? Man? When do why?

943
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Speaker 1: I get the chance to go to camp as a

944
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Speaker 1: as a as a media member of the Dallas Cowboy

945
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Speaker 1: dot com. You guys went to the media. I've always

946
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Speaker 1: wanted to go to the Jerry Jones Dallas Cowboys media

947
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Speaker 1: party Noble and you hear all the stories in the

948
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Speaker 1: reports last night. I don't drink, but if Jerry wanted

949
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Speaker 1: to pour me a shot of the Johnny Walker blue,

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Speaker 1: I might sip it down last night. That went down

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Speaker 1: last night. I remember I was in the restaurant for

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Speaker 1: the Den Bryant Infamous, and they had thirteen hundred dollars

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Speaker 1: shot saluted thirteenth Red cast. I don't drink. I drunk

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Speaker 1: that shot dot night because I don't know the next

955
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Speaker 1: time I'm gonna have a thirteen hundred dollars shot of alcohol. Okay,

956
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: what the heck man does? He throw that kind of

957
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Speaker 1: party for the players at some point the Christmas party

958
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Speaker 1: is done. Christmas Party was dope. Christmas Party was always dope.

959
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep them, but them stories. Yeah, Christmas party

960
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: was always dope. So I know if I know the

961
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Speaker 1: level of the Christmas party, And y'all know if you

962
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Speaker 1: if you are a faithful hanging with the boys, Remember,

963
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: y'all know I beg. Y'all know I ask for free

964
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Speaker 1: stuff all the time. Hey, I have no shame in begging.

965
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Speaker 1: My grandmother always told me a clothes mouth don't get fed,

966
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Speaker 1: and so d ain't too hard to beg. What the

967
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Speaker 1: heck man? Hook your boy, Jay, Holly up, give me

968
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Speaker 1: a pass for next year. I don't even pay for

969
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Speaker 1: my own flight. Jesse has just successfully taken the whole

970
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Speaker 1: what the heck segment out, So that's the next text

971
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Speaker 1: you're done. But that is that is that is right there.

972
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Speaker 1: Of like the example of Fomo was so real right then,

973
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Speaker 1: because you're just like, don't let me miss this anymore. No,

974
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Speaker 1: because here's why I'm putting my bid in. Now, Here's

975
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Speaker 1: why I'm putting my bid in. Now. They did it

976
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Speaker 1: at No Boo this year. Okay, It's only a matter

977
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: of time because no one likes to show off their

978
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: toys more than our big boss thing is gonna come

979
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Speaker 1: on the new yacht sooner or later. He's gonna putting

980
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: the yacht up to the dock. I don't know, mister Jones,

981
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Speaker 1: sooner or later. Sooner or later, fall media members on there,

982
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: sooner or later, the yacht will get pulled. I don't.

983
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm not the guy who gonna do that anyway. I'm

984
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I beg but when I get behind the

985
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Speaker 1: closed door, I ain't putting mister mister Khan down there

986
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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. He does a big party on his yacht. Really,

987
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Speaker 1: So see, I'm telling you right team, right team, wrong yacht. Yeah,

988
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: but you don't board with me now, y'all don't want

989
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: to miss the boat literally and figuratively, because I know

990
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Speaker 1: it's coming. I don't know when, but in a year

991
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: or so. I know the boats like in France right

992
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: right now, getting maintenance done to it. You know that. Yeah,

993
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: I figured it was off the coast to California. No,

994
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's getting maintenance done. You gotta go alway

995
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: to France to get the maintenance. You know what. I'm

996
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: not gonna even ask how you know that getting maintenance done.

997
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: Wrapping up this last eight minutes that we have on

998
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Speaker 1: the show, Guys, the Boat, Why Jesse with this Bomo Guys?

999
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: Then your impressions of the team, um, and obviously just

1000
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: from what you're hearing from what video that you're able

1001
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: to watch, what are your impressions of this team after

1002
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: six days of six practices and two days of padded practices.

1003
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: What's your opinion of these guys or what are you

1004
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: what's your vibe for the team? Competition is back, that's back,

1005
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: and we haven't had that for a while. Under the

1006
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett administration. There has been a lack of competition

1007
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: across the board, mainly defensively. And you see that now.

1008
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: You hear that now and you see guys responding to that.

1009
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: Eight interceptions in two days. Did you see that when

1010
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: you were playing for him? Do you think over time? No? No, no, no, no,

1011
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: no no no. There was guys knew who they were

1012
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: going to like you knew d where I was gonna be,

1013
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: where you know, you knew it. Guys didn't really have

1014
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: to compete for jobs. You knew they when they were

1015
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: going to be. But but now it's come to the

1016
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: point where this healthy, and it's a healthy level of

1017
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: competition change. I'm saying that there is a culture change happen.

1018
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: Is it? How much? How much? I just it's been

1019
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: a while, you know, for so long you kind of

1020
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: are hesitants say certain things. No can We had this

1021
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: conversation on Monday, Yeah, with the question was posed, how

1022
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: long does it? How much is that McCarthy and how

1023
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: much does that Quinny heavy Quinn. I think I say

1024
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: yes because in order to know yes, one person has

1025
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: to allow it. One person has to allow it. And

1026
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: I think Mike has said, you know what this is,

1027
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: It's necessary, it's necessary, it's necessary. Do what you do. Yeah. Uh.

1028
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: In terms of impressions, I'm you know what, I'm who

1029
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm impressed with? Who doesn't get enough credit? Tight ends

1030
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: coach Linda Wells does not get enough credit for him

1031
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: to have obviously Jarwin under his wing. Jarwin go down

1032
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 1: last year. And I know, we don't just think that

1033
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: that that that shows just showed up like that. There

1034
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: is a lot of development on the back end that

1035
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: went along with that. There's a lot of preparation that

1036
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: went along with that on the field and in the classroom.

1037
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: And so now he has the opportunity and the pleasure

1038
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: of having two guys that are prepared to play. He

1039
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: has two guys at a position that was kind of

1040
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: ridden off that now we don't look at as a

1041
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: question mark anymore. And that doesn't just happen by guys

1042
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: showing up the camp and being ready to play ball.

1043
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: That happens because of development. And I want to give

1044
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: a big shout out to coach Wales because he's got

1045
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: a heck of a job with that group. He's from

1046
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: the Giant, the Giant long time. I had him when

1047
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: I was out there in the Giants and he was

1048
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: he was like the assistant to the assistant. And he's

1049
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: worked his way up. You know, he's he's taking advantage

1050
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: of his opportunities. And I'm I am beyond elated with

1051
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: the job that he's done with that group, because there's

1052
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: no nobody's sitting up here questioning. We haven't talked about

1053
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: a question mark at the tight end position. Yeah, and

1054
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Speaker 1: you've heard noise and training camp from the McKee and

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00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: the Third Street towns. He made a hell of a

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00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 1: catch us in in the practice. So that's a that's

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00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: a great that that's way to that's diving deep right there.

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Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. Yeah. I think Feldman kind of the

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, falls into that same time. I mean,

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00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: he worked some miracles last year with that packing up

1061
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: line and now he's you know, you've got the two

1062
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: guys coming back trying to get healthy and right, and

1063
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: you've got some good competition behind them as well. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I think he's added a lot to what

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: they brought. Colombo. I thought we all kind of liked

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00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: his fire and everything, but maybe it just wasn't a

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: right fit. But I've been impressed with him. I know

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00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: they loved him too. Yeah, last after last year, he

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: can do whatever the hell. Yeah. For me, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Al Harris. I think Al Harris working with this young

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00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: group of cornerbacks. I think He's going to make the difference,

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00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,439
Speaker 1: especially in Quinn's defense, and you with a room full

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00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: of young guys like he has his it's it's going

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: to be his ability to pretty much put his imprint

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: on this group. And you know, seeing him at at OTA's, man,

1076
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: he's got his socks pulled all the way up. Man.

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00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: You can tell from those guys that play there they're

1078
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: chomping at the bit to get back in action. But

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I think he's just a consummate. As we talk about

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00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn hey being so hands on, I think Al

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00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: Harris is the same way. Just you see him working

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: with these young guys and he has a young group

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: and guys like Kelvin Joseph, and you know, I mean

1084
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: the expectation is there, so getting this guy ready to

1085
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: exceed those expectations, I think it's one of the things

1086
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: that Al Harris definitely it's going to be relied on,

1087
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: because man, he's one of the best to do. Do

1088
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: you think that we're gonna see a reincardnation or a

1089
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: reflection of his style to play within these guys. I

1090
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: would love. I would absolutely teach that. You can teach that.

1091
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can teach the physical part of the

1092
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: mentality of yeah, but what I'm saying Quinn Quinn loves that, right,

1093
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: So Quinn wants that kind of cornerback. So now you

1094
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: take the defensive coordinator who's coming in, who's gonna say, hey,

1095
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: you can do whatever the heck you want to it.

1096
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: They're line of scrimmage. And then you have a coach

1097
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: and in Al Harris, who that was his style. Right,

1098
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: These long dreads are gonna be all up in your

1099
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: chests all day long. Right. I know the dreads are gone,

1100
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: but but the dog is still the same, Right, So

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00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm looking forward to seeing him reincardnating in

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Speaker 1: some of these corners. How much of a difference as

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00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: players did it make to have a guy in the

1104
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: coaching stuff who was had that kind of playing career

1105
00:58:55,640 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: him So, But then on the other hand, that guys

1106
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: like Philbin and yeah, I've never played for a guy

1107
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: who played the position. Um. The thing that players love

1108
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: to bring up a name that you brought up a

1109
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: guy like Colombo, a guy like Al Harris, is there's

1110
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: still that relatability, you know. It's not like he's an

1111
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: old dude like try me if you want to, right,

1112
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, Like I will still

1113
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: get out there and and lock you up. Yeah, you know,

1114
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: and we saw that. We saw that with CHRISTI shar right,

1115
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: that energy, that that ability that and guys relate to that.

1116
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: When when I know that we ain't too far off,

1117
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: Like if a lout Wayne song come on before before

1118
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: while we stretching and you happen to know a word

1119
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Speaker 1: or two, I'm like, I know, you know. They're about

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: that life right now, as we would say, they're about

1121
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: that life. Colombo tried, Columbo, if you want to, Colombo

1122
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: will put his hand in the ground and hand me

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Speaker 1: your chest right exactly. Yeah, you're talking about credibility given respect, respect, respect,

1124
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 1: respect and be earned and the knowledge can be Yeah. Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: it is always a pleasure to be here with you

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Speaker 1: on Hanging with the boys. We've gone for an hour.

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Speaker 1: We've taken all of our breaks sometime so successfully, and

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