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Okay, let's dive back into the Bachelor in 15 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Paradise reunion. 16 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: Okay, almost famous podcast. Guys, I'm so excited to have 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: you on Leah. You look so different than what I 19 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: saw you on your LOREX. 20 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: You switch show. 21 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 3: Few outfit changes, you know, you got to keep. 22 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: Them guessing you do. 23 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: And Jonathan, my guy, always looking good but I love 24 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: the shoes, appreciate it outfit. You know, that's okay. I 25 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: didn't bring a wardrobe change either. I haven't changed since 26 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: the planes. I feel disgusting. But guys, I'm sure you've 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: been asked this question a million times. You're both absolutely 28 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: beautiful people, very kind. I've gotten to know Jonathan over 29 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 2: over the last year or so. Le it's our first 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: time meeting. But I don't understand why why isn't there 31 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: a love connection here? I mean, honestly, I look at 32 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: the two of you, I'm like, what a perfect couple? 33 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Like, what's the deal? 34 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: Really? What it is? 35 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: He actually is so in love with me, and it's 36 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: just he's scared of it. 37 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: I understand. I understand letting him, you. 38 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: Know, explore what he has to explore. Yeah, no, I'm 39 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: just kidding. But we are such good friends, and I 40 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: don't know. I think when I was in the setting 41 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 3: of Paradise, mind you, we've met before, yea, and nothing 42 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: has ever happened. I've never like been like hate Jathan. 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: Like you know whatever. 44 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: But I think that when I was there, I was 45 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: just so intent on like being in love and finding love, 46 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: and Jonathan, I think was the only one remotely, like 47 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: I was remotely my type that i'd pursue. Actually, I 48 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: take the back, I'd never pursue a man, but. 49 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: That i'd be interested in pursuing. 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 5: The options were limited to you came in and it 51 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 5: was either me or realistically, yeah, they touch. 52 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: On, like I love him to death, but he's just 53 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: not my type, right, But yeah, I think we've just 54 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: always been good friends and yeah, I don't know, and 55 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: he's just tripping because I'm like, amazing you are. 56 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, I mean, come on, buddy, No, No. 57 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: That's the big thing too, is like, and I know 58 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 5: this question is going to come of why did you 59 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: friend zone people? And it's like, well, if I don't 60 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 5: feel a romantic connection towards somebody, well I'm not going 61 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: to just kick them to. 62 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: The curb and be no. 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: First of I'm not going to pretend to waste somebody's time. 64 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 5: But also, like, I see how incredible of a person 65 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: you are inside out, You're beautiful, Like I want to 66 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 5: be on your side for everything. 67 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: Last thing I want to. 68 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: Do is burn the bridge and then be like absolutely 69 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 5: not never going to happen immediately off the rip, and 70 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 5: then that's it like, I want to still be on 71 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 5: your side and be there for you and be a 72 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 5: friend that you can lean on if it's not going 73 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: to work out romantically. So like when my friends owned 74 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 5: it's because I actually care about everybody on the damn show, 75 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 5: but people look at it as a negative. It's like, yeah, 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 5: I could have just been the bad dude, really not 77 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: wasted anybody's time, just been like, don't even talk to 78 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: me right right? 79 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, that's not me. I'm not 80 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: going to sit here and that amiable guy. You like people, 81 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: and you obviously are hilarious. 82 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 2: I mean you're out there entertaining everybody, quick to smile 83 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: and make everybody laugh. I'm just saying iought I thought 84 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: you know that there was something there now, Leah, before 85 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: coming to Paradise, did you kind of like how they 86 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: always ask everyone, like, you know, who do you want 87 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: to meet here? Did you have anyone that you named 88 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: that you wanted to meet that that did show up 89 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: or and you were disappointed in what happened there. 90 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: I think when I was initially talking to the team 91 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 3: about coming on, I was very much like I think 92 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: a handful of these men are handsome, but I'm definitely 93 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: a personnally gal and I want to kind of get 94 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: to know someone face to face because you know, you 95 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: can only see so much on the screen. Sure, So 96 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: I think I just walked in very open. I wasn't 97 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: specifically looking for one person. Yeah, whatever it may be, 98 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 3: but yeah I was. I think I was just very open. 99 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, and how about you? How about you, Jonathan? 100 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: So I literally the exact same thing. That's what I 101 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 5: told you guys last time we spoke, because I was like, 102 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: it's not like a physical thing for me, Like I 103 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: know what's done behind the camera to show these people 104 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 5: in different line. I want to meet somebody for who 105 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 5: they are in the moment right and then make my 106 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 5: decision there. So I tried to stay away from meeting 107 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 5: people at the show, all my best behaviors, just going 108 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 5: open minded. 109 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: And you didn't. 110 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: You didn't say like for the producers, there wasn't like 111 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: I want to meet these three people. 112 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 5: I think it pissed them off actually, because they're like 113 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 5: pushing it. We want to help you out. 114 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they give us a clue. 115 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know. 116 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: So one of the things I think is kind of interesting, 117 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: and this is because I obviously was watching the show 118 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: at home with everybody else was there were these times 119 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 2: when you think, oh my god, there seems like there's 120 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: so much tension right like, like, for example, you and 121 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: Dale right like A lot was made of the fact that, 122 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: though editing sometimes would show you almost looking like you 123 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: were trying to interfere in Dale and Cat's relationship. 124 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: But then I see you and Dale today. 125 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: You guys seem fine, but are you fine? 126 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: The connection with Cat lasted of whole three days. 127 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 5: And I knew after twenty four hours when Dale showed 128 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: up her reaction. She was standing this close to me 129 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 5: as Dale walked up. Oh my god, it's like as 130 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: Cat does. Yeah, I'm sitting there and I'm like, I 131 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 5: didn't get this reaction. I was like, now that I 132 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: don't even want it. I don't get that same reaction, 133 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So from that point on, realistically, 134 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 5: I was like, dude, I'm not gonna shoot my shot 135 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 5: a cat Like, yeah, I still had like that in 136 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: the back of my mind, like, hey, I still do 137 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 5: like this girl. I'm not going to just completely write 138 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 5: it off because yeah, I'm not the obvious pick to her. 139 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: But after like two days of her just being pretty 140 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 5: locked in on him. I was like, dude, I'm not 141 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 5: about this. So like those moments where I pull her 142 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 5: for a chat to check on her is because a 143 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 5: similar situation like it didn't work out. 144 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: But as a cat, I'm still going to be there 145 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: for you individual and a friend. Yep. And it looked 146 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: more as if like. 147 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 5: I'm so hanging on this fact that like, oh maybe 148 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: me and Kat and it's like. 149 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, well, I mean, no one, I mean, 150 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: no one would blame anybody on the show for all 151 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: the women are beautiful. You know, you're on a beach, 152 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: you're having beverages, you like, you know, sunsets and all 153 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 2: that kind of good stuff. 154 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: I totally get it. 155 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was it was kind of interesting how 156 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: the show played up that tension a little bit, you know, 157 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: and it was it was funny because I think the 158 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: first time it happened is when they asked me, if 159 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: you know who do you want to be the next 160 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: bashion I'm. 161 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Like, what's gotta be? My guy? Jonathan? Yeah? Right, So 162 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I see what's gonna be. 163 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd be a really good one, unless you know, 164 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: of course, the love connection here happens which you know, yeah, 165 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: come on, come on, all right, So anytime after filming 166 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: away from the cameras that you two thought, you know, 167 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 2: maybe we could give this a shot, Like, did you 168 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: guys ever explore that conversation? 169 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 5: No, I'll never get crossed our minds to even like 170 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 5: we were both knew, like it wasn't even a think, 171 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 5: like a thought that like, hey, should we talk about this? 172 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 173 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 6: No. 174 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: I also think from that very first conversation that we're 175 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: the confrontation that we had where I was like, do 176 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: you ever even potentially see something here? 177 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 178 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: And I pressed him for a yes or no and 179 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: he said no, And I said, okay, perfect, thank you. 180 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: I have my information because my husband would never. 181 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 4: Right, no, never in a million years. 182 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: My husband would be like, oh my god, her, like 183 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: I love everything about her, this is like this is it? 184 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 185 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 5: Mine was a gray area too, where I was like, 186 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 5: I'm a little bit more slow to the role, and 187 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 5: I'm like I don't want to be like, no, it'll 188 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 5: never happen because like, dude, we can be friends for 189 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: five years and I could just be like you're an idiot, 190 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: dude conversation and then I don't want to I don't 191 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 5: want to say that, and obviously, like five years is 192 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 5: like dramatic, like that's too much to like and then 193 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 5: tell somebody your confess your familis. But people have done it, 194 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like shut a friend zone 195 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: and then you try to get out. But I was like, 196 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: I don't know, that could end up being my reality 197 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 5: one day. 198 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but she needed that. 199 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: Jared and Ashley, I yeah, I mean, that's that's exactly 200 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: what happened with those So I was. 201 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 5: Like, I don't want to put myself in a hole 202 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 5: before I know for sure, but she really just needed 203 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 5: an answer, and like, I'm not going to waste her time, 204 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: so I just went with no, because I'm not going 205 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 5: to have you wait for me. 206 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 207 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: I just know the energy that I will be approached with, 208 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: and I know how I want to be pursued, and 209 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: I know my worth and my value and I'm not gonna. 210 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: God, I love this. 211 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 2: I love I love that right there? 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Go online to find your 217 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,359 Speaker 2: nearest Wetzel's Pretzels, or to order ahead your pretzel Pairaradise 218 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: awaits at Wetzels dot com. 219 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Sean. 220 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: So Sean comes in with the Parliament of Paradise and 221 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: it's basically coming after the platonic relationships, right, and he's 222 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 2: just having a pow wow with anybody that listened. He 223 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: wasn't very very sly about it. I mean it was 224 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: really kind of obvious. How did that make you feel? Because, 225 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean it seemed like you guys kind of. 226 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: He tried to plot with me at one point. Yeah, 227 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 5: about the Sean like he was he wanted to get 228 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: rid of, like Spencer. He's like, none of those will 229 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: be my biggest Did. 230 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: He call you guys to a meeting and and you 231 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: guys showed up, You're like, no, we're not doing that, Okay, Yeah, 232 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: because you guys are on his shopping were. 233 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: In our own little world just like around like having fun. Yeah, 234 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: we didn't know about. 235 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 5: Bailey and Jeremy. We did know that Jeremy made the 236 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 5: phone call. We didn't know any no kidding. 237 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: On our own different show. 238 00:09:55,480 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: We weren't like better seat than you. Yeah yeah, oh 239 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: my god, that's crazy. 240 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: I think because we were on a couple like people, 241 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: we were like out of gameplay. 242 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: Yeah that makes sense. Yeah, no, it makes sense. 243 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: Kind of irrelevant, which is totally okay, But. 244 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: We were friends. Like she was a girls girl, she 245 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: was there for all the girls. I was the guys. 246 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 5: I was there for a lot of the guys, well, 247 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: the guys that were in the relationships that happened, like 248 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: Jeremy and Spencer. Spencer's my best friend from the show, 249 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 5: so like I'm sitting there being them, there for them 250 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 5: through everything, and they're like, okay, well we want to 251 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: protect him too, like that's our guy. 252 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: So we kind of got by by game our friendships 253 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: so long, you know what I mean. Yeah, it was 254 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: great if you would have won. 255 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: In fact, I mean you would have probably made it 256 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: to the finals if you would have won the last challenge. 257 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean, because once. 258 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: The Parliament came back and they made their votes, they 259 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 2: probably would have rather had you guys in that mix, 260 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: I would guess because you might be able to eat everybody. 261 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 262 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting twist. I thought you 263 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: guys did a really great job the thing. I you know, 264 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: I can't help, but wonder you keep hearing all these 265 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: rumors that Kat had a iPad or a following or 266 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: something like that. It came up tonight people kind of 267 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: going at her about it. Did you guys hear that 268 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: at all? Because you said you weren't hearing the other stuff. 269 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: Did you hear any of that? 270 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 271 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: And actually I was closer with Kat. She didn't have 272 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 3: an iPad, she didn't have a computer. 273 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 4: They searched your bags, right. 274 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 3: Or I think that they were like they were trying 275 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: to figure out if she had it during the holding, 276 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 3: which is like when you first get to Costa Rica. Okay, 277 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 3: but I don't I don't know. I don't think she 278 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: had anything. 279 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, if you're there in 280 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: the holding thing, ey, I mean, I might get in 281 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: trouble for this, but. 282 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: You're not on the show yet. You haven't even medine 283 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: who's there yet? So who cares if you're texting somebody. 284 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 4: And there's no Wi Fi? 285 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: Right? 286 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 4: And if you asked the front desk. 287 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: For wi Fi, which I did at one point. 288 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 4: They'll tell on you. 289 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: Oh and then production called me and was like, hey, 290 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 3: did you ask for the WiFi? And I was like, 291 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: yeah that mind you. This is when I was allowed 292 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: to have my. 293 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: Phone right right right. 294 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: It's different still. 295 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: The time, but yeah, you there was no way, like 296 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: I couldn't even call or text anyone. There's no white 297 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 3: what why Yeah. 298 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's to be a waste for her 299 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: to have that anyway. Yeah. Yeah. 300 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: Plus, I mean, to be fair, I felt like she 301 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: and Dale really created a real relationship. I really did 302 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: like watching it from home, I mean, and then seeing 303 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: them out there today, like, you know, they had this 304 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: kind of like nice couple, dumb thing going on when 305 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: she was getting kind of fired up and he's like, 306 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: it's okay, just calm down, don't take the bay. 307 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: You know. I thought it was interesting. 308 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: It was a nice dynamic, you know, to watch that 309 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: as a married, old, married dude seeing people kind of 310 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: like police each other in a nice way. 311 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: It was kind of nice to see you. 312 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 5: I was like Jeremy and Bailey too that At one 313 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: point Jeremy's like can I say it? 314 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: And Bay was like no, not real. 315 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like it's just gonna make you look bad 316 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: in this moment. That's a reaction. We need you to 317 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: be like more proactive, not reactive. Sure, and Bailey knew 318 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 5: the objective and Jeremy like almost almost slipped up and 319 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: it was like can I and she's like no, no. 320 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's got to be interesting because it's like, 321 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, like I said, I could never have been 322 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: on a show like this because I get so my 323 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: feelings get so hurt so easily. If I think that 324 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: someone who's my friend is like going to vote me off, 325 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: I'd lose my mind. 326 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: Right, But you guys were sort of. 327 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: Constantly on the chopping block, even though you were everyone's 328 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: best friend, because the mindset was, oh, we keep the 329 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: real couples, which I don't know why that's the mindset. 330 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: Because one of the money's introduced. The money is a 331 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: different show, like what us. 332 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: To versus everyone else? 333 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 3: We're going to fight everyone and then they would just 334 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: vote us out real quick, like Sean. 335 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: But Sure, we were trying to just coast on by. 336 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Be very neutral, not be very polarizing, like let's just be. 337 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, don't make any like we just wanted to just 338 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 5: fly on the wall. 339 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 4: Right now, their only choice. 340 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: It works. I mean, and you both came off from 341 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: off the show. 342 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: And I will say this as a as a viewer, 343 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: but somebody's been around this franchise since prettym at the beginning. 344 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: You guys came off the show both looking really great, 345 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: like you did yourself a lot of favors for the 346 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: way you were portrayed and the way that you handled 347 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: yourself and and everything. I mean, you showed vulnerability, you 348 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: showed a lot of different size of your you know, 349 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: your your character, and I think that was really nice. 350 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Jonathan. 351 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: The one thing that you obviously got a lot of 352 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: attention for was the night that April gave you a flower. Right, 353 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: so April gives you ros, it gets a bunch of 354 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: the goldens voted off or some like domino effect happens 355 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: right when that happened, where you all of a sudden 356 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: like Wow, maybe maybe I like older women, maybe I 357 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: want friends one April? 358 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: Did you have that ever come? 359 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 5: I mean I'm not opposed to slightly older. I mean, 360 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 5: if you watched the if you watched the game that 361 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: we played, I have hooked up with somebody twenty five 362 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 5: years older than me like what. 363 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: It was a one time thing. It was the one time. 364 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: It was a one time thing. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, 365 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: all right, but yeah it was. 366 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: It was a cool moment too, because they made it 367 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: almost cliffhanger, like, oh, Jonathan's gonna go like plead for 368 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 5: this rose from an older woman if a younger one 369 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 5: is not willing to give. 370 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: It to him. And that was never the case. 371 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 5: You know, I went into that roast ceremony like night 372 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: the cocktail party, so ready to go, because at that 373 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 5: point I was ready to go and I accepted it, 374 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: and I was like, you know, i'mna be happy for 375 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: my friends, everybody's and have a good night, and I'm 376 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: to go out on a great note. 377 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: And I was having a great time. 378 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: But in that time that I was having so much fun, 379 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 5: I had Leslie and April, which they didn't show the 380 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: one with Leslie, but come up and pull me for 381 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 5: a chat and be like, hey, can we talk. I 382 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 5: just want to see how you're doing? This is and that, 383 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: And in that moment I kind of knew. I was 384 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 5: like to these ladies, like meet me, do they want 385 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: to keep me around? 386 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I didn't. It was never like a sexual and well, 387 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: April did purr on me a bit. 388 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: She didn't put on me a little bit, but like 389 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: she is, she's iconic, and she is the sweetest, like 390 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: she's insane, but like insanely sweet, like she means so 391 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 5: damn Well. Yeah, from that point, I was like, oh, 392 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 5: maybe there is a chance they give it to me. 393 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 5: And I was like, you know what, like practice is 394 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: still fun. And when I realized that, like being there 395 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: is a positive thing, I almost like reconvinced myself that ya, 396 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: he's saying, would be fun if I was offered a rose. 397 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: Sure, but like the expectation was like zero. Yeah, but 398 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: it did cross. 399 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 5: My mind, like maybe it is a possibility that she's 400 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: going to give it to me, because they did both 401 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 5: pull me for chats. 402 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Sure, crazier things have happened. Yeah, I mean, then it 403 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: ended up happening. 404 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 5: And then it ended up I think it had to happen, 405 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, in the realm of the 406 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 5: Goldens being there some crossover, so some extent had to happen, and. 407 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: It would have to be her too. 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All right, so a lot of couples came 444 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: off the show. They're not all still together, right, Which 445 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: couple do you think has the best chance of making 446 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: it post paradise? 447 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Best friends? Yeah, these are best friends. 448 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, those are like truly. 449 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: Spencer's mind, like, oh that's awesome. 450 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, and you like it was the 451 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: sweetest thing. I remember we had a reunion with all 452 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: of like from all the girls from Joey season. We 453 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: all sat around, we had just gotten the text, like, hey, 454 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 3: are you still single? Are you open to paradise? And 455 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 3: so we were talking about boys this night, and Jess specifically, 456 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 3: I remember she was sitting on my couch and she goes, yeah, 457 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 3: like I really like Spencer, and I was like, Spencer 458 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: the one, like the one that does a dog portraits, 459 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 3: and she's like, yeah, he just seems so sweet and 460 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: like I really want to get to know okay, dude, 461 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: Like I could see that happening, and like, I just 462 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: knowing what Jess had gone through the previous season, me 463 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: and her had just really been sucker punch. We were 464 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 3: really some villains and I think. 465 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: That, which is so interesting to me because neither one 466 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: of you. 467 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: Have and now it's like the complete opposite on this season. 468 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 3: So that's why I always. 469 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: Give problem should actually like think the fans be like, 470 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 5: oh wait, this person was portrayed as villain, but now 471 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 5: we're seeing and you're like, oh, now you're in love 472 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: with them, Like okay. 473 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: It's a fickle public guy. It's a fickle public right. 474 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: But anyways, just seeing her like come full circle, and 475 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: I remember her just like in the midst of all 476 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: the overwhelming hate, she was just like I just don't understand, 477 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 3: Like I just want to be happy a lot, and 478 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: so now to see her so happy and so cared 479 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 3: for it. Oh my god, I cry all the time 480 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: about it because. 481 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: It just like we're getting emotional in the couch Last 482 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: Life watching the finale. 483 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: So I will tell you guys watching the finale, and 484 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: I was I was so happy for both couples, right, 485 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't one hundred percent sure because the 486 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: way the show had been edited, what Jess's decision was 487 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: going to be. 488 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: Because yeah, and it. 489 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: Was like, you know, oh, well, I don't know if 490 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready for this, and you know that money would 491 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 2: be you know, a life changing whatever, and uh and 492 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: he looked, I mean, the look on his face was 493 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: just like I have no idea what's going to happen, 494 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: you know. And she comes around the corner and it 495 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: was like, oh, thank god. I was so happy. You know, 496 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 2: He's like, I can always make more money. I can't 497 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: make another job, you know, A really beautiful line. I thought, Yeah, 498 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 2: someone must have written that for him. No, I'm sure 499 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 2: he came up and he. 500 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Seems like a pretty clever guy. 501 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 2: But no, I love I love that you guys are 502 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: so close with them and that they have such a 503 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: successful relationship already. 504 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: Going because talking then tonight, I I do. 505 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: Feel like they're they're the ones any others, Like, if 506 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 2: you had to say, I think this next couple might 507 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 2: really have a chance. 508 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna gree in the same one too. 509 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 5: No, I was gonna say Bailey and Jeremy, which I 510 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: was surprised about. 511 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. 512 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 5: Interesting, I think I think Jeremy likes Bailey more than 513 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 5: he lets on. He's like, he doesn't wear his heart 514 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 5: in his sleeve. 515 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 2: Well he didn't have any sleeves on the night, to 516 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: be fair, and tank top is just exactly notice that. 517 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: But watching him you might want to coacho on some 518 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 5: fashion choices moving forward, just saying. 519 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: I go for the traditional gentleman. 520 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 5: I literally had a tie on before I came with, 521 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 5: like my tie clip on everything, and I was like, 522 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 5: you're doing too much, dude, like my pocket square and 523 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 5: I was giving it to her to like. 524 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, at least I kept the pocket 525 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: square to keep it. 526 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 2: You keep it kind of classy. Yeah, No, I like them. 527 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: I mean Cat and Dale. What do you think they're 528 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 2: They seem like they're doing pretty well right. 529 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: Now, good for right now. 530 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Andrew and and Alex are great to Yeah, 531 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: I love because you guys know him also intimately. 532 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 533 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're also different in their own ways and yeah, 534 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: in their own ways, And I think, like, who are 535 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 3: we to judge these couples? 536 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're also going based off of like who we 537 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: get along with the best. Yeah. 538 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean like one couple stronger, right, It just means, 539 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna justin Spencer regardless, because those are 540 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 5: like those are people, right, Yeah, but like somebody who's 541 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 5: closer with like Andrew and Alex might be like, I 542 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 5: don't know, Andrew and Alex are probably the strongest, you know. 543 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could see that well, and they all 544 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: to be fair, I think that, you know, there's some 545 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: some good couples still kicking from the show, and and 546 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: I'm excited for the two of you to start finding 547 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: your couple THEMS. Has there been any dating you can 548 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: bring us up to speed on since the show? 549 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: Come on, girl, I'm like, I can't talk about it. 550 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: It's Netflix, Okay, do you know what that's from? 551 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: I love it. But I am dating very nice. 552 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 3: And I'm having a lot of fun. I'm very happy, 553 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: and yeah, well I just have to stay I will. 554 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: Well, where are you living? And where is he living? 555 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 6: He lives in la oh Okay, So. 556 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: That keeps it simple. Very nice, Jonathan, anything on the 557 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: horizon for you. 558 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 5: I've been actively dating publicly now, thank god, because I 559 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 5: didn't for ten months to like make sure I portrayed 560 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 5: that like single look going in the Pardess people can 561 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: be brutal, yeah, and I was like fearful. So now, yeah, 562 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 5: I've just been taking girls on dates. Nothing crazy, I meant, 563 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 5: anybody that's just like really just made me feel I 564 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 5: don't know, Yeah, the butterfly that feeling yet, so get it. 565 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 5: I get it, it's coming. But actively dating again, and. 566 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you both are such nice people and you're 567 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: both beautiful. I'm sure you're gonna find your special someone 568 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: in no time. And I think the way people got 569 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: to know you guys on this show will really resonate 570 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: for both of you because I think you know, I 571 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 2: didn't even realize I never thought of you as a 572 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: billet villain on Jonathan season. 573 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: Sorry on Joey's season. Oh, I didn't see it that way. 574 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: No, I didn't see it that No, I burned it. 575 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: That's solid though, that's a that's a gangster move. 576 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you guys, thanks for joining us on Almost Famous. 577 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for being a part of this whole thing. 578 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: I'm so glad we got to have the reunions, the 579 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Baelan Paradise reunion, and so glad that we got iHeart 580 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 2: and Almost Famous to be a part of it with 581 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: you guys. 582 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: So thanks for coming on the show. We appreciate it, 583 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: of course, thanks for having us, BROB come on again. 584 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: We'll check in again in a couple months and see 585 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: where things are at with you guy. Maybe I'll have 586 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: somebody at that point. 587 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: I'll say you well, brother, all right, Thanks you guys, 588 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 2: Thank you very much.