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Now your hosts Darry Church, 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.920 Danny McCrae, heckma Harrison, and Newi Scrugs. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.360 Hello and welcome to the Players Lounge sponsored by Tostitos, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.200 the official chip and dip of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:40.560 You are now rocking with the best. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.239 I'm heckmc harrison and joining me at the desk is 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.760 two former Dallas. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.040 Cowboys Bear Church. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.879 What's happening to Danny McCrae and the man that's doing 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.480 the lawd's work over there in ox Nord, California, none 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:57.200 other than Newing Scrugs NBC five's Oh come on, bow, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:06.119 take a nod, do something at least let us know you. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.759 I'm gonna I'm gonna you know what. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:16.360 That's how you take the show off the rail. It 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:19.679 is about to be. That's about to play a lounge, right. 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:25.240 It is about that kind of the show today. But man, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.200 I'll tell you what. I used to check on you 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.880 guys and see how y'all doing. But I think everybody 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.360 is fine right now. 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:38.880 Joey boy, no sense at all, Man, eleven time in 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.600 me when the new extruss is how the Knox narted 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.959 and knew it obviously. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:44.319 Man, you're you're going to borrow. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.839 You're blowing up all over the place on social media. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.640 Everybody wants to know. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:53.520 Man, about your interview with one Lashawn McCoy, Man, come on, 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.640 give us a lowdown on him. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.000 First off, Shady was pleasant to talk to, and I 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.400 interviewed Ocho first because I know, mannyacho, and you know, 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:07.960 it's one of the things man makes you feel old 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:08.960 because he's like, man, I used. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.519 To watch you in high school. Man, what years this 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:11.200 for you by here? 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.079 So I talked to Ocho first, and then my photographer, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.040 Nobuy's like, hey, man, that's Shady right there, and I'm like, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:18.800 I don't know, I don't know. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.440 So I walked over to him and then he saw 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:21.760 my hand say oh you're a cute. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.040 Though, Okay, okay, It's like okay. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:24.720 So right there, we got. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:27.560 A little bit of respect, and then we did the interview. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.560 And so that interview I had with him, I just 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:33.639 I tried to be fair. I didn't try to come 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.200 in here with like, hey man, you know, I totally 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.720 disagree with how you do your business, but I just 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:41.880 wanted to actually ask him some questions and let him 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.480 answer back. And so I enjoyed the interview with him. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.320 I kind of laughed when he said, well, what are 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:48.840 the players supposed to say? What are you supposed to 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.960 say about that? And then I talked about James Washington, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.160 who I saw Saturday. Okay, James Washington, in my opinion, 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.079 should have been the MVP of Super Bowl twenty eighth, 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.680 the way that game turned around his play, but they 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:01.360 didn't give it to him. 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:02.200 Imm Smith got it. 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.400 James Washington played with Troit UCLA and played all these 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.200 two Dallas Cowboy teams with him. He talked trash. That's 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.680 all he did was talk. Charles Haley talked trash. Jimmy 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.720 had a bunch of Miami Hurricanes on Dallas Cowboys. They 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.400 talked trash. So when Shady talks about I've never heard 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:17.840 it before. I'd never seen it before. Well, I'm here 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:21.280 for three years. I've seen Dak Prescott and Treyvon Diggs 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.440 do this. I didn't see it in Trayvon's first year 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.079 because it was COVID. We weren't allowed to be there. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.799 So and he's like, so, so how does this get 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.280 out here? Well, because you got cell phones, you got 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:33.200 better audio equipment. But this has been happening out here, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.720 and so he's like, man, I came, you know, I 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:36.440 wanted to show my. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:37.320 Face that that that. 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:40.200 But then they didn't stay right as they hit the 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:43.680 mojo moments to go into real practice, Acho and Shady left, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.720 Ocho said they had to go back to had to 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:48.120 go back to LA to do their show. 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:49.880 So Shady never stayed around. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.720 They never talked to anybody before camp and after, you know, 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.480 after camp ended, you know, they didn't do any interviews. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.160 They didn't talk to anybody. They just kind of came 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.200 and just showed their faces here. And you know, I 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.600 asked Dak afterwards. I was like, did Shady acknowledge you 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:07.040 talk to you? 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:07.240 Though? 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:13.080 He's like no, I'm like, okay, okay. 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:13.000 That's it. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.000 It's a business, Thusten. Look what he got out of 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.880 the whole interaction. Okay, you go on TV, you start 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.440 talking this craziness about Dak Prescott and disrespect them doing 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.880 all this other crazy stuff and not newie scrubs Newie Scrubs, 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.200 the Emmy nominated and the winner of all these Emmys. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.160 It's like, hey man, let me go find Shady. You 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:32.760 know what I'm saying. It's working out for now, you 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:34.360 get to go do a show. People gonna ask him 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.120 about this for the next six weeks or a month 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.240 or two months or whatever, and then you know he's 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.080 gonna say the next crazy thing. It's probably gonna be 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.320 about Dak again, depending on how the season starts, and 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.159 they're gonna roll on through the season, just like that. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.440 They whole show last year, or a lot of the 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.599 show last year was based off what they talked about 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.160 and making fun of the Cowboys and if they're gonna 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:53.960 make it, and then you know, the Eagles were doing good, 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.080 so then they had that back and forth. So a 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.960 lot of the show is predicated off the Dallas Cowboys. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:00.880 Players in the organization. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:02.640 Well if you know, I mean the cowboys, or they're 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.200 gonna get headlines. Everybody's gonna see it's gonna be clickbait. 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.240 So I understand what they're doing over there. It's all 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.800 the entertainments with you know, Shady and Ocho and all 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.159 that stuff. But from one running back to another new 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.920 y'all gotta ask you about this number two running back 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.599 position for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, we all understand 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.920 that Tony Poler, when he becomes healthy, he's gonna take 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.960 the majority of these reps. But what have these backups 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.440 looked out there? You know, duce Vaughan, Dad Well Davis. 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.159 What did they look like? Because they're gonna have to 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.279 step up and be in that number two running back role, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:33.200 especially early in the season as Parler gets more acclimated 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.840 from his injury from last season. So what have you 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:37.080 seen from that running back room? 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.000 Yeah, Mike McCarthy was asked a whole lot about that. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.520 Yes, you're catching on Dallas Cowboys dot Com as its 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.760 press conference, answered a lot of the running back questions. 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.360 He likes what Rico Donald is doing. 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:48.960 Uh. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.160 He also is as a fan of uh Malie Davis. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.480 And then you've got Duce Vaughan in that screen game. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.960 He likes duce Vaughn here. So of course, you know 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.279 Ronald Jones right now dealing with a groin injury. But 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.160 the running back room, according to Mike, we're gonna see 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:04.960 this preseason. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.840 These guys are gonna get the opportunities to go out 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:07.760 there to show what they can do. 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:09.160 He just. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.680 He just has a comfort right now. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.440 I don't feel like there's any panic that he said, 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:15.640 hey guys, we got to go out here and go 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:16.520 bring somebody else in. 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:19.800 He's very comfortable with these guys. I thought, Malik, I. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.839 Thought Davis, when you go back that forty nine or given. 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.120 I thought when he was been given opportunities, he's done 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:26.960 a good job. And Donald was ahead of him before 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:29.080 he got hurt. And here's a kid. You know, both 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.440 of these running backs, people forget played at South Carolina, 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.480 I mean playing in the SEC Dallas, South Carolina. Davis 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.800 over to Florida so they can run the football. We 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.880 know what duce Vaughan was able to do in the 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:39.480 Big twelve. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:40.000 Uh. 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.400 For me, I'm not worried about this cowboy running back situation. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.200 And then when it comes to passport, they talked about 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.279 duce Vaughan picking up in pass pro profile. This Jacksonville 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.040 game is going to be really good because we're gonna 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.400 see some guys in some positions where they're gonna get 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.479 their opportunity to show what they can do. U caveon Turpen, 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:01.160 You know McCarthy talked about he wants to see him 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.240 at wide receiver, but the running back position in my 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.400 mind right now, you know, the preseason is gonna tell 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.440 us a whole lot we see. We see this stuff here. 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.200 You know how I feel about the All Austinar team. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.520 You know, can you do it at at and T Stadium? 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.360 You know, can you do it there? Can you go 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.840 to Seattle after that the preseason game and show the 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.160 Cowboys what you can do there here? But I'm not 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.760 worried about this position. And let's be honest, man, they 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.960 gonna throw the ball, Okay, we've got to receive a 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.720 car like this. You throw the ball, you want to 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.280 be able to run it when you want to. But 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.160 you know it's not like this. You know, we're not 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.000 about to see you know, Ezekiel Elliott twenty sixteen where 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:33.440 they're just run. You know, he's gonna lead one of 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.520 these guys gonna lead the league in rushing. And we're 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.560 also talking about Tony Pollard being the guy. So can 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.760 people ground grind out a third and three? You know, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.400 they're gonna be backups, and I think we got to 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.800 remember that we're looking for a backup running back. 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.280 We're not looking for a lead. Bell Cally. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.080 When we talk about the Dallas Cowboys and especially Dak 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.160 Prescott and the years that he's been successful Newing, it's 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.920 been because he has had some success from the running 0:07:55.920 --> 0:08:00.280 back position. And and maybe you know, Mike McCarthy is 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:02.320 okay with the running back group that he has, but 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.520 we know how important this group actually is. Just for 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.000 you being out there at camping, you're looking at these 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.880 guys compete. Are you seeing versus the eyeball test that 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.520 this is enough to win an NFC and go far 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:16.880 in the playoffs? 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.760 Okay, So I go back to Tony Romo's best year. 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:28.200 It was when DeMarco Murray was the NFL offensive player year. 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:29.080 They ran the ball a lot. 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.960 And then for Dak Prescott, you talk about the first year, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:33.640 even the first two years they ran the ball. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.199 It was a running team, but it was a different 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:35.640 head coach. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:35.920 You know. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:37.720 Now you got a different coach and Mike McCarthy. So 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:39.920 I would not look for that to be the same. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:42.720 But when you talk about those years, what you saw 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:46.000 from DeMarco Murray and then Zeke's first year, you had 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.920 an offensive line with a Travis Frederick there and a 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.760 Tyron Smith at peak performance and Zach Martin that's not 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.319 the case anymore. So you don't have that same offensive 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.520 line here. And I think at some point in time 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.040 we've got to come to grips that you know, them 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:03.160 dudes aren't walking through the door like they used to be. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.600 You know, Zach's gonna be thirty four years old this year. 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:09.120 Tyron's a guy that hasn't given us sixteen sixteen games 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.600 I think since like Obama was president. So I mean, dude, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.840 it just it just is what it is. So let's 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.000 see how they gel and who the guys out here 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.880 that can do this thing. Man, it's still a concern 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.040 for me. We saw Tyler be Hones to sit a 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:25.720 roller's ankle yesterday. So man, this offensive line, we got to. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:27.360 See where it is. 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.920 It's not the top five group of these number one 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:30.160 the other. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:30.760 Yet. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:36.840 Have you been in ros Cools, man? You No? No, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.040 I have not been in Roscos. No, I've not been 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:41.680 to Roscos. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:42.160 Not. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.760 I didn't go to lax. I flew into Santa Barbara. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:45.800 So I have been on Roscos on. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.800 The trip, all right, So just sushi and no, hey listen, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:50.840 I got I got one for you. 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:52.800 I just want a Mozi Smith update. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.600 Okay, we picked the guy in the first round that 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.040 is that is the one that I'm like, Hey, I 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.360 want to see this this pan out, want to see 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.440 if it's gonna work. Does Neville Gallimore have a shot? 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:06.199 Is he going into this season being the starter? Projected starter? 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.320 Because when you spend a number one draft pick on 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:10.200 the god especially d Lineman, you spent them to be 0:10:10.200 --> 0:10:13.120 out there record stuff, right and knowing that it was 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.080 our weekly on our defense, Like I'm really paying attention 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:17.840 to this position. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.640 Yeah, well Mazi didn't practice yesterday because they had an MRI. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.880 Oh so yeah, yeah, I would not look for and 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.040 you know, I hate that. I just talked to Bill 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.640 McLay and I forgot to ask him about about Mossi. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.520 But they say he's fine, that the MRI, he's okay. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.400 But I would tell you I would not look for 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:46.200 Mazzie Smith to play Saturday night. So yeah, so he is, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.320 by the way, he is participating in the walkthrough. He 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.120 is participating to walk through, so and and and be honest, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:55.200 he's out here too. But you know, apparently they've said 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:59.000 he's fine, but we'll see. And McCarthy's not talking today, 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.160 but I would not be surprised when Church you come 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:04.360 out here tomorrow and McCarthy says that that Bozzie is 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.440 not playing because he's been dealing with some tend nights 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:06.840 in his knee. 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.840 I are what makes me the most. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.640 What you said, what you used to say about Jason 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.280 Garrett is the things that you don't say. 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:12.760 Okay. 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.960 I asked him a question about Bozzie Smith. He didn't 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.200 say anything positive. You know what I'm saying, even before 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.800 he had to get the MRI yesterday. I'm talking about 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.160 just an update. I haven't heard a positive thing yet, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.920 not one time, said one positive thing about myself. Now nervous, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:31.440 I'm nervous. 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.719 Okay, okay, all right, So so let me put it 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:35.400 this way for you. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.480 Mozzie is coming along. I do not expect him to 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.760 be in the starting lineup right now. I don't you know, 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.240 Hankins has played well, Os has been doing well. Mozzie 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.199 is going to be a part of the rotation. And 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.600 to me, I don't think that's a bad thing. Is 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.120 he gonna you know, did we all know Tyler Smith 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.160 was gonna be as impactful as a rookie at this point? 0:11:59.240 --> 0:11:59.920 Camp last year. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.120 You know he didn't. He had some moments. He had 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.040 some moments where he struggled too. So let's see how 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:08.280 this thing plays out. I think sometimes we just want 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.480 answers right now. Right now, he needs to look like 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.800 he and Aaron Donnell yet. Okay, it's taken into time now, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.240 Michael Parsons has nothing but praise for him. 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:17.840 You talk to the other guys about Mazie. 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.520 Here's the only bad thing that I've heard about mazi Okay, 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.000 they say he was terrible when he. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.000 Had to go out there sing his rookie They said he. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.520 Was terrible and he had to do it over. He 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:28.280 was so bad. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.480 That's the That's the only bad thing that I have 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:33.560 heard about Mazzi. 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:34.520 Okay. 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.760 They talk about his strength, but just the premise that 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:39.960 he's gonna step up here day one and be Vince 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.880 will Fork or Booker McFarland right out of the gate, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.040 I don't think that's the case. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.040 They got some guys that they like. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.200 He'll play his way into the rotation and then let's 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.280 see exactly what is going on with this knee ten 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.920 tonight is thing, and when the players talk and see 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:56.600 see if we can get something from him. 0:12:57.960 --> 0:12:59.839 I had to talk about a first round thing. Okay. 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.680 I want to slide back to the offensive side of 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.240 the football, because a lot of reports going out there, 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:07.839 and you look at this wide receiver position, the number 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.079 four wide receiver position, and from what I seen that 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.800 camp because young man by the name of Jalen Brooks 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:14.960 out there who's doing his thing as well as semi 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.040 for Hoko, I've seen a couple of shots of SENDI 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.920 out there getting some deep balls and he's actually completing 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:20.480 them as well. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.280 So do you see that? 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:32.240 Stop, I'm trying to give my boys a love just 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:39.040 going down there. I ain't seeing nothing Fromko. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:40.240 You ain't seeing. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:55.120 Nothing, man, No, don't. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.160 You don't you let me find Isaiah Steinbank sand Bank 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.760 and we started talking about about fi. Come on, man, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:03.560 you know like the other day you saw the digs 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:08.679 pick Simmy going to city. I mean, man, brof, you're 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.680 talk about number four. Simmy ain't number four? Okay, okay, 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:13.880 so not a shot of chance, not that right now? 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:14.240 Okay? 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:15.640 Just what about Brooks? 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:15.840 A right? 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.079 What about Hayl Brooks? Now? What about Jayalen brook Oh? 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.120 Neither neither of them. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:24.080 All ox Star, He's all he is all ox star 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:24.520 right now. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.680 I need to see it at at and T Stadium. Okay, 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.880 how many times we got to talk about these dudes? 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:30.160 Man? 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.280 You know, somebody got to see in the preseason. 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.440 Game, dudes looking good out here practice. Okay, that's that's 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:40.080 that's fine. Tolbert is doing some good things. Okay, I 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.400 love it. But we need to see that translate too. Okay, 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.280 we need to see that translate too. But but Jalen 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.360 Tolbert is taking his job seriously, and he's taking accountability 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.160 for what happened last year. He's even participating on special 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.680 teams and and he's showing some signs of life there. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.720 You man, Simmy hadn't always been wanting to get on 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.720 his special teams here. I don't think he good enough 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:01.600 not be a part of special teams, just a wide 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:02.600 receiver name only. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.440 But this is what I'm telling you guys. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.280 This game against Jacksonville is something that everybody needs to 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:14.000 tune in for to see these second line backups and 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.240 what they can do, because this is where they're going 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.600 to be judged on. Kelvin Joseph. There's another guy who's 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.920 been out here, man. I mean, he may get a bread. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.720 He may get a bread sponsorship because he been toasted 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:25.120 a bunch. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.560 So let's see if he goes in Jacksonville. Okay, So 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:30.280 he go out. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:34.000 Here to Jacksonville and make some plays and we go like, okay, okay, 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.040 but during these drills. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.920 Man, these multip womans, Man, I mean my man. I 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.000 mean the other day. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.160 Man, the flag went up there and everybody it was 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.200 just like, oh God, you're walking pi. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:44.440 Man, I'm bad for me. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.440 But I'm like, okay, maybe maybe it's because it's cooks 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.040 and gigs. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.360 You know what's that old meme? Like, Man, I'm not here, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:52.320 I'm gonna lie. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:16:00.880 I'm getting cooked out there. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:02.800 He's got to show us something. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.920 Man, I'm gonna be probably you know what I'm saying, 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.000 may go you glad. 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.800 I'm saying, Man, Kelvin may hit that he may hit Jacksonville. 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.880 Show us something man. So and Mike McCarthy talked about that. 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.960 He's like, man, this is the preseason games before. He's 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.280 like Mike McCarty said, I don't have a fifty three 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.320 set in my mind right now. I gotta go see 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.560 guys play because there's gonna be something that happens in 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.480 a preseason game and a guy makes a team and 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.400 you know, Danny Barry, you guys had that moment too 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.040 for yourself where they're looking at hey, what's this guy 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.760 doing here in the preseason you say, Okay, now that's 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.640 worthy of making the fifty three. This Oxnart stuff is 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.560 nice and cool, but what are you doing in these 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.120 preseason games when they really do count and that's where 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:41.600 they're great? 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:41.760 What? 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:42.760 What? What? 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.560 What game was the last season where Kevin Joseph got 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:46.680 the I think he got the start. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:49.440 It was in the af jack Invitation. It was Jacksonville. 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.400 Okay, So I thought, I thought I felt a little 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.680 connection with this week. All right, so you know, my 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.120 man got something to go prove out there, and hopefully 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.160 hopefully you don't say the word some fun. But listen, 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.320 I want to clarify this, okay, all oxen Art. It's 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:10.000 a designation that you get after camp is over. Okay, okay, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.760 because they call you all oxnar when you when you 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:15.119 do all you can in camp and you out there 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.359 flash moments, getting picks and all that stuff, and you 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.080 go out there in the preseason games in the regular 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.880 season you don't do nothing. Then you get labeled all 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:25.520 oxen Art, All right, you don't want that label. Two 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:30.000 guys at the desk that are not called now, but 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.800 I'm gonna say positive head here, gotta put a positive 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:33.359 spin on it. 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:34.560