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Speaker 3: That's how you take the show off the rail. It
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Speaker 2: It is about that kind of the show today. But man,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I used to check on you
Speaker 2: guys and see how y'all doing. But I think everybody
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Speaker 4: Joey boy, no sense at all, Man, eleven time in
Speaker 4: me when the new extruss is how the Knox narted
Speaker 4: and knew it obviously.
Speaker 2: Man, you're you're going to borrow.
Speaker 3: You're blowing up all over the place on social media.
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know.
Speaker 3: Man, about your interview with one Lashawn McCoy, Man, come on,
Speaker 3: give us a lowdown on him.
Speaker 5: First off, Shady was pleasant to talk to, and I
Speaker 5: interviewed Ocho first because I know, mannyacho, and you know,
Speaker 5: it's one of the things man makes you feel old
Speaker 5: because he's like, man, I used.
Speaker 6: To watch you in high school. Man, what years this
Speaker 6: for you by here?
Speaker 5: So I talked to Ocho first, and then my photographer,
Speaker 5: Nobuy's like, hey, man, that's Shady right there, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6: So I walked over to him and then he saw
Speaker 6: my hand say oh you're a cute.
Speaker 5: Though, Okay, okay, It's like okay.
Speaker 2: So right there, we got.
Speaker 5: A little bit of respect, and then we did the interview.
Speaker 5: And so that interview I had with him, I just
Speaker 5: I tried to be fair. I didn't try to come
Speaker 5: in here with like, hey man, you know, I totally
Speaker 5: disagree with how you do your business, but I just
Speaker 5: wanted to actually ask him some questions and let him
Speaker 5: answer back. And so I enjoyed the interview with him.
Speaker 5: I kind of laughed when he said, well, what are
Speaker 5: the players supposed to say? What are you supposed to
Speaker 5: say about that? And then I talked about James Washington,
Speaker 5: who I saw Saturday. Okay, James Washington, in my opinion,
Speaker 5: should have been the MVP of Super Bowl twenty eighth,
Speaker 5: the way that game turned around his play, but they
Speaker 5: didn't give it to him.
Speaker 6: Imm Smith got it.
Speaker 5: James Washington played with Troit UCLA and played all these
Speaker 5: two Dallas Cowboy teams with him. He talked trash. That's
Speaker 5: all he did was talk. Charles Haley talked trash. Jimmy
Speaker 5: had a bunch of Miami Hurricanes on Dallas Cowboys. They
Speaker 5: talked trash. So when Shady talks about I've never heard
Speaker 5: it before. I'd never seen it before. Well, I'm here
Speaker 5: for three years. I've seen Dak Prescott and Treyvon Diggs
Speaker 5: do this. I didn't see it in Trayvon's first year
Speaker 5: because it was COVID. We weren't allowed to be there.
Speaker 5: So and he's like, so, so how does this get
Speaker 5: out here? Well, because you got cell phones, you got
Speaker 5: better audio equipment. But this has been happening out here,
Speaker 5: and so he's like, man, I came, you know, I
Speaker 5: wanted to show my.
Speaker 6: Face that that that.
Speaker 5: But then they didn't stay right as they hit the
Speaker 5: mojo moments to go into real practice, Acho and Shady left,
Speaker 5: Ocho said they had to go back to had to
Speaker 5: go back to LA to do their show.
Speaker 6: So Shady never stayed around.
Speaker 5: They never talked to anybody before camp and after, you know,
Speaker 5: after camp ended, you know, they didn't do any interviews.
Speaker 5: They didn't talk to anybody. They just kind of came
Speaker 5: and just showed their faces here. And you know, I
Speaker 5: asked Dak afterwards. I was like, did Shady acknowledge you
Speaker 5: talk to you?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 5: He's like no, I'm like, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's a business, Thusten. Look what he got out of
Speaker 3: the whole interaction. Okay, you go on TV, you start
Speaker 3: talking this craziness about Dak Prescott and disrespect them doing
Speaker 3: all this other crazy stuff and not newie scrubs Newie Scrubs,
Speaker 3: the Emmy nominated and the winner of all these Emmys.
Speaker 3: It's like, hey man, let me go find Shady. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. It's working out for now, you
Speaker 3: get to go do a show. People gonna ask him
Speaker 3: about this for the next six weeks or a month
Speaker 3: or two months or whatever, and then you know he's
Speaker 3: gonna say the next crazy thing. It's probably gonna be
Speaker 3: about Dak again, depending on how the season starts, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna roll on through the season, just like that.
Speaker 3: They whole show last year, or a lot of the
Speaker 3: show last year was based off what they talked about
Speaker 3: and making fun of the Cowboys and if they're gonna
Speaker 3: make it, and then you know, the Eagles were doing good,
Speaker 3: so then they had that back and forth. So a
Speaker 3: lot of the show is predicated off the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Players in the organization.
Speaker 3: Well if you know, I mean the cowboys, or they're
Speaker 3: gonna get headlines. Everybody's gonna see it's gonna be clickbait.
Speaker 3: So I understand what they're doing over there. It's all
Speaker 3: the entertainments with you know, Shady and Ocho and all
Speaker 3: that stuff. But from one running back to another new
Speaker 3: y'all gotta ask you about this number two running back
Speaker 3: position for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, we all understand
Speaker 3: that Tony Poler, when he becomes healthy, he's gonna take
Speaker 3: the majority of these reps. But what have these backups
Speaker 3: looked out there? You know, duce Vaughan, Dad Well Davis.
Speaker 3: What did they look like? Because they're gonna have to
Speaker 3: step up and be in that number two running back role,
Speaker 3: especially early in the season as Parler gets more acclimated
Speaker 3: from his injury from last season. So what have you
Speaker 3: seen from that running back room?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike McCarthy was asked a whole lot about that.
Speaker 5: Yes, you're catching on Dallas Cowboys dot Com as its
Speaker 5: press conference, answered a lot of the running back questions.
Speaker 6: He likes what Rico Donald is doing.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: He also is as a fan of uh Malie Davis.
Speaker 5: And then you've got Duce Vaughan in that screen game.
Speaker 5: He likes duce Vaughn here. So of course, you know
Speaker 5: Ronald Jones right now dealing with a groin injury. But
Speaker 5: the running back room, according to Mike, we're gonna see
Speaker 5: this preseason.
Speaker 6: These guys are gonna get the opportunities to go out
Speaker 6: there to show what they can do.
Speaker 2: He just.
Speaker 6: He just has a comfort right now.
Speaker 5: I don't feel like there's any panic that he said,
Speaker 5: hey guys, we got to go out here and go
Speaker 5: bring somebody else in.
Speaker 6: He's very comfortable with these guys. I thought, Malik, I.
Speaker 5: Thought Davis, when you go back that forty nine or given.
Speaker 5: I thought when he was been given opportunities, he's done
Speaker 5: a good job. And Donald was ahead of him before
Speaker 5: he got hurt. And here's a kid. You know, both
Speaker 5: of these running backs, people forget played at South Carolina,
Speaker 5: I mean playing in the SEC Dallas, South Carolina. Davis
Speaker 5: over to Florida so they can run the football. We
Speaker 5: know what duce Vaughan was able to do in the
Speaker 5: Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: For me, I'm not worried about this cowboy running back situation.
Speaker 5: And then when it comes to passport, they talked about
Speaker 5: duce Vaughan picking up in pass pro profile. This Jacksonville
Speaker 5: game is going to be really good because we're gonna
Speaker 5: see some guys in some positions where they're gonna get
Speaker 5: their opportunity to show what they can do. U caveon Turpen,
Speaker 5: You know McCarthy talked about he wants to see him
Speaker 5: at wide receiver, but the running back position in my
Speaker 5: mind right now, you know, the preseason is gonna tell
Speaker 5: us a whole lot we see. We see this stuff here.
Speaker 5: You know how I feel about the All Austinar team.
Speaker 5: You know, can you do it at at and T Stadium?
Speaker 5: You know, can you do it there? Can you go
Speaker 5: to Seattle after that the preseason game and show the
Speaker 5: Cowboys what you can do there here? But I'm not
Speaker 5: worried about this position. And let's be honest, man, they
Speaker 5: gonna throw the ball, Okay, we've got to receive a
Speaker 5: car like this. You throw the ball, you want to
Speaker 5: be able to run it when you want to. But
Speaker 5: you know it's not like this. You know, we're not
Speaker 5: about to see you know, Ezekiel Elliott twenty sixteen where
Speaker 5: they're just run. You know, he's gonna lead one of
Speaker 5: these guys gonna lead the league in rushing. And we're
Speaker 5: also talking about Tony Pollard being the guy. So can
Speaker 5: people ground grind out a third and three? You know,
Speaker 5: they're gonna be backups, and I think we got to
Speaker 5: remember that we're looking for a backup running back.
Speaker 6: We're not looking for a lead. Bell Cally.
Speaker 3: When we talk about the Dallas Cowboys and especially Dak
Speaker 3: Prescott and the years that he's been successful Newing, it's
Speaker 3: been because he has had some success from the running
Speaker 3: back position. And and maybe you know, Mike McCarthy is
Speaker 3: okay with the running back group that he has, but
Speaker 3: we know how important this group actually is. Just for
Speaker 3: you being out there at camping, you're looking at these
Speaker 3: guys compete. Are you seeing versus the eyeball test that
Speaker 3: this is enough to win an NFC and go far
Speaker 3: in the playoffs?
Speaker 6: Okay, So I go back to Tony Romo's best year.
Speaker 5: It was when DeMarco Murray was the NFL offensive player year.
Speaker 6: They ran the ball a lot.
Speaker 5: And then for Dak Prescott, you talk about the first year,
Speaker 5: even the first two years they ran the ball.
Speaker 6: It was a running team, but it was a different
Speaker 6: head coach.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Now you got a different coach and Mike McCarthy. So
Speaker 5: I would not look for that to be the same.
Speaker 5: But when you talk about those years, what you saw
Speaker 5: from DeMarco Murray and then Zeke's first year, you had
Speaker 5: an offensive line with a Travis Frederick there and a
Speaker 5: Tyron Smith at peak performance and Zach Martin that's not
Speaker 5: the case anymore. So you don't have that same offensive
Speaker 5: line here. And I think at some point in time
Speaker 5: we've got to come to grips that you know, them
Speaker 5: dudes aren't walking through the door like they used to be.
Speaker 5: You know, Zach's gonna be thirty four years old this year.
Speaker 5: Tyron's a guy that hasn't given us sixteen sixteen games
Speaker 5: I think since like Obama was president. So I mean, dude,
Speaker 5: it just it just is what it is. So let's
Speaker 5: see how they gel and who the guys out here
Speaker 5: that can do this thing. Man, it's still a concern
Speaker 5: for me. We saw Tyler be Hones to sit a
Speaker 5: roller's ankle yesterday. So man, this offensive line, we got to.
Speaker 2: See where it is.
Speaker 6: It's not the top five group of these number one
Speaker 6: the other.
Speaker 3: Yet.
Speaker 7: Have you been in ros Cools, man? You No? No,
Speaker 7: I have not been in Roscos. No, I've not been
Speaker 7: to Roscos.
Speaker 8: Not.
Speaker 6: I didn't go to lax. I flew into Santa Barbara.
Speaker 6: So I have been on Roscos on.
Speaker 3: The trip, all right, So just sushi and no, hey listen,
Speaker 3: I got I got one for you.
Speaker 2: I just want a Mozi Smith update.
Speaker 3: Okay, we picked the guy in the first round that
Speaker 3: is that is the one that I'm like, Hey, I
Speaker 3: want to see this this pan out, want to see
Speaker 3: if it's gonna work. Does Neville Gallimore have a shot?
Speaker 3: Is he going into this season being the starter? Projected starter?
Speaker 3: Because when you spend a number one draft pick on
Speaker 3: the god especially d Lineman, you spent them to be
Speaker 3: out there record stuff, right and knowing that it was
Speaker 3: our weekly on our defense, Like I'm really paying attention
Speaker 3: to this position.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well Mazi didn't practice yesterday because they had an MRI.
Speaker 5: Oh so yeah, yeah, I would not look for and
Speaker 5: you know, I hate that. I just talked to Bill
Speaker 5: McLay and I forgot to ask him about about Mossi.
Speaker 6: But they say he's fine, that the MRI, he's okay.
Speaker 5: But I would tell you I would not look for
Speaker 5: Mazzie Smith to play Saturday night. So yeah, so he is,
Speaker 5: by the way, he is participating in the walkthrough. He
Speaker 5: is participating to walk through, so and and and be honest,
Speaker 5: he's out here too. But you know, apparently they've said
Speaker 5: he's fine, but we'll see. And McCarthy's not talking today,
Speaker 5: but I would not be surprised when Church you come
Speaker 5: out here tomorrow and McCarthy says that that Bozzie is
Speaker 5: not playing because he's been dealing with some tend nights
Speaker 5: in his knee.
Speaker 2: I are what makes me the most.
Speaker 3: What you said, what you used to say about Jason
Speaker 3: Garrett is the things that you don't say.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: I asked him a question about Bozzie Smith. He didn't
Speaker 3: say anything positive. You know what I'm saying, even before
Speaker 3: he had to get the MRI yesterday. I'm talking about
Speaker 3: just an update. I haven't heard a positive thing yet,
Speaker 3: not one time, said one positive thing about myself. Now nervous,
Speaker 3: I'm nervous.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, all right, So so let me put it
Speaker 6: this way for you.
Speaker 5: Mozzie is coming along. I do not expect him to
Speaker 5: be in the starting lineup right now. I don't you know,
Speaker 5: Hankins has played well, Os has been doing well. Mozzie
Speaker 5: is going to be a part of the rotation. And
Speaker 5: to me, I don't think that's a bad thing. Is
Speaker 5: he gonna you know, did we all know Tyler Smith
Speaker 5: was gonna be as impactful as a rookie at this point?
Speaker 6: Camp last year.
Speaker 5: You know he didn't. He had some moments. He had
Speaker 5: some moments where he struggled too. So let's see how
Speaker 5: this thing plays out. I think sometimes we just want
Speaker 5: answers right now. Right now, he needs to look like
Speaker 5: he and Aaron Donnell yet. Okay, it's taken into time now,
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons has nothing but praise for him.
Speaker 6: You talk to the other guys about Mazie.
Speaker 5: Here's the only bad thing that I've heard about mazi Okay,
Speaker 5: they say he was terrible when he.
Speaker 6: Had to go out there sing his rookie They said he.
Speaker 2: Was terrible and he had to do it over. He
Speaker 2: was so bad.
Speaker 5: That's the That's the only bad thing that I have
Speaker 5: heard about Mazzi.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: They talk about his strength, but just the premise that
Speaker 5: he's gonna step up here day one and be Vince
Speaker 5: will Fork or Booker McFarland right out of the gate,
Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 6: They got some guys that they like.
Speaker 5: He'll play his way into the rotation and then let's
Speaker 5: see exactly what is going on with this knee ten
Speaker 5: tonight is thing, and when the players talk and see
Speaker 5: see if we can get something from him.
Speaker 2: I had to talk about a first round thing. Okay.
Speaker 3: I want to slide back to the offensive side of
Speaker 3: the football, because a lot of reports going out there,
Speaker 3: and you look at this wide receiver position, the number
Speaker 3: four wide receiver position, and from what I seen that
Speaker 3: camp because young man by the name of Jalen Brooks
Speaker 3: out there who's doing his thing as well as semi
Speaker 3: for Hoko, I've seen a couple of shots of SENDI
Speaker 3: out there getting some deep balls and he's actually completing
Speaker 3: them as well.
Speaker 2: So do you see that?
Speaker 9: Stop, I'm trying to give my boys a love just
Speaker 9: going down there. I ain't seeing nothing Fromko.
Speaker 2: You ain't seeing.
Speaker 10: Nothing, man, No, don't.
Speaker 5: You don't you let me find Isaiah Steinbank sand Bank
Speaker 5: and we started talking about about fi. Come on, man,
Speaker 5: you know like the other day you saw the digs
Speaker 5: pick Simmy going to city. I mean, man, brof, you're
Speaker 5: talk about number four. Simmy ain't number four? Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: so not a shot of chance, not that right now?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: Just what about Brooks?
Speaker 6: A right?
Speaker 2: What about Hayl Brooks? Now? What about Jayalen brook Oh?
Speaker 2: Neither neither of them.
Speaker 5: All ox Star, He's all he is all ox star
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 6: I need to see it at at and T Stadium. Okay,
Speaker 6: how many times we got to talk about these dudes?
Speaker 10: Man?
Speaker 2: You know, somebody got to see in the preseason.
Speaker 5: Game, dudes looking good out here practice. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 5: that's fine. Tolbert is doing some good things. Okay, I
Speaker 5: love it. But we need to see that translate too. Okay,
Speaker 5: we need to see that translate too. But but Jalen
Speaker 5: Tolbert is taking his job seriously, and he's taking accountability
Speaker 5: for what happened last year. He's even participating on special
Speaker 5: teams and and he's showing some signs of life there.
Speaker 5: You man, Simmy hadn't always been wanting to get on
Speaker 5: his special teams here. I don't think he good enough
Speaker 5: not be a part of special teams, just a wide
Speaker 5: receiver name only.
Speaker 6: But this is what I'm telling you guys.
Speaker 5: This game against Jacksonville is something that everybody needs to
Speaker 5: tune in for to see these second line backups and
Speaker 5: what they can do, because this is where they're going
Speaker 5: to be judged on. Kelvin Joseph. There's another guy who's
Speaker 5: been out here, man. I mean, he may get a bread.
Speaker 5: He may get a bread sponsorship because he been toasted
Speaker 5: a bunch.
Speaker 6: So let's see if he goes in Jacksonville. Okay, So
Speaker 6: he go out.
Speaker 5: Here to Jacksonville and make some plays and we go like, okay, okay,
Speaker 5: but during these drills.
Speaker 6: Man, these multip womans, Man, I mean my man. I
Speaker 6: mean the other day.
Speaker 5: Man, the flag went up there and everybody it was
Speaker 5: just like, oh God, you're walking pi.
Speaker 6: Man, I'm bad for me.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, okay, maybe maybe it's because it's cooks
Speaker 5: and gigs.
Speaker 6: You know what's that old meme? Like, Man, I'm not here,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lie.
Speaker 2: I'm getting cooked out there.
Speaker 6: He's got to show us something.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna be probably you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: may go you glad.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Man, Kelvin may hit that he may hit Jacksonville.
Speaker 5: Show us something man. So and Mike McCarthy talked about that.
Speaker 5: He's like, man, this is the preseason games before. He's
Speaker 5: like Mike McCarty said, I don't have a fifty three
Speaker 5: set in my mind right now. I gotta go see
Speaker 5: guys play because there's gonna be something that happens in
Speaker 5: a preseason game and a guy makes a team and
Speaker 5: you know, Danny Barry, you guys had that moment too
Speaker 5: for yourself where they're looking at hey, what's this guy
Speaker 5: doing here in the preseason you say, Okay, now that's
Speaker 5: worthy of making the fifty three. This Oxnart stuff is
Speaker 5: nice and cool, but what are you doing in these
Speaker 5: preseason games when they really do count and that's where
Speaker 5: they're great?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 2: What? What?
Speaker 3: What game was the last season where Kevin Joseph got
Speaker 3: the I think he got the start.
Speaker 2: It was in the af jack Invitation. It was Jacksonville.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I thought, I thought I felt a little
Speaker 3: connection with this week. All right, so you know, my
Speaker 3: man got something to go prove out there, and hopefully
Speaker 3: hopefully you don't say the word some fun. But listen,
Speaker 3: I want to clarify this, okay, all oxen Art. It's
Speaker 3: a designation that you get after camp is over. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: because they call you all oxnar when you when you
Speaker 3: do all you can in camp and you out there
Speaker 3: flash moments, getting picks and all that stuff, and you
Speaker 3: go out there in the preseason games in the regular
Speaker 3: season you don't do nothing. Then you get labeled all
Speaker 3: oxen Art, All right, you don't want that label. Two
Speaker 3: guys at the desk that are not called now, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say positive head here, gotta put a positive
Speaker 3: spin on it.
Speaker 2: In Newie. I know you could do it.
Speaker 3: Just follow the brid Covante Turping, Covante Turping. A lot
Speaker 3: of talking has been on Covante Turping not only as
Speaker 3: a returner but also as a wide receiver this preseason game.
Speaker 2: How important is it for guys.
Speaker 3: Like Covante Turpin to atch out some playing role, a
Speaker 3: playing role in this wide receiver room. You're gonna get
Speaker 3: this positive, get this, You're gonna get this to Avante Turpin.
Speaker 2: He've been on this for two weeks.
Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, we can do that. We can do that.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about that.
Speaker 5: TC on from Mike McCarthy's calling the plays, and he
Speaker 5: spoke about how he wants to see what Turp does
Speaker 5: as a wide receiver. I talked to him about two
Speaker 5: days ago and he's like, man, I'm ready to play,
Speaker 5: ready to see what I can do. And one thing
Speaker 5: that I think we don't talk about enough is while
Speaker 5: he made the Pro Bowl last year, he played a
Speaker 5: lot of football, having gone from the USFL and being
Speaker 5: the MVP there to playing for the Cowboys. His body's
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to rest. He's now in his second season.
Speaker 5: He feels a better connection with Dak Prescott and everything.
Speaker 6: That's going on here.
Speaker 5: So I think Turpin is another player that against Jacksonville
Speaker 5: is going to get his opportunity to go out here
Speaker 5: and show people what he could do. He's ready for it,
Speaker 5: and we know he's going to make the team because
Speaker 5: he made the team as a special team made the
Speaker 5: Pro Bowl as a special teamer last year. I like
Speaker 5: the fact that you've got a Deuce Vaughn and you've
Speaker 5: got a Cavante Turpin. And I've already seen some plays
Speaker 5: where Mike McCarthy is, you know, put these put some
Speaker 5: special packages in for these guys, and I think they
Speaker 5: can be effective.
Speaker 6: So I'm looking for Turping to to improve. I think
Speaker 6: he's a good football player.
Speaker 5: I've watched his kids since college, and if given the opportunity,
Speaker 5: I think he can make play.
Speaker 3: Is it is it possible for your quarterback to have
Speaker 3: connections with all the receivers on the roster. No, okay,
Speaker 3: it ain't okay, because we c got it Cooks got it,
Speaker 3: Gallup got it, possibly Tobart got it, Turfing got it.
Speaker 3: I mean good, everybody got it. Okay, so I need
Speaker 3: I need to see it. But the thing is unfortunate
Speaker 3: about that is we know they're not gonna be catching
Speaker 3: no passage from back in these games.
Speaker 2: Y'all think they can have two return specialists on the fifty.
Speaker 3: Three better not just And you can't say who is
Speaker 3: turping going down there and tackling who's too long gonna
Speaker 3: go down there and tackle on teams like I just
Speaker 3: I can't see it.
Speaker 2: I cannot see it. I can see Deuce fun being Uh.
Speaker 6: Why somebody likes Simmia. That's why somebody he needs to
Speaker 6: got to play a special team.
Speaker 3: Yes, dude, but but y'all don't see So you're gonna
Speaker 3: take two return specialists into the season, they are spots available.
Speaker 3: You taking two return specialist guys who are only going
Speaker 3: to really get a chance to do it if you punt.
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's a punt ret on you stop them,
Speaker 3: or or you're scoring a lot of points. Other than that,
Speaker 3: you might just have a guy just sitting on there
Speaker 3: on the on the hohop.
Speaker 2: What he say, he said.
Speaker 6: Bill Belichick would do that.
Speaker 3: There we im, you know, the same person, two return specialists,
Speaker 3: two gadget guys. I mean that's that's two spots the
Speaker 3: same person. I just I can't see it happen screen
Speaker 3: And don't think that both of those positions are intertwine.
Speaker 3: And we've talked about that before about Duce Vaughan and
Speaker 3: Kalante Turfing. I mean, different positions, but still in order
Speaker 3: to carry them on this roster gonna you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to have them as special teams guys, because you know
Speaker 3: what with Dukes get in the backfield, I mean, it's
Speaker 3: gotta be a gadget. So the defensive, the intendants are
Speaker 3: gonna be up.
Speaker 2: He ain't blocking nobody.
Speaker 3: Let's keep it mean. He's not gonna go out there
Speaker 3: and protect on third and seven. We know it's a pass,
Speaker 3: but we know he gotta get out. He's not protecting.
Speaker 3: I just don't they're one of the other is gonna
Speaker 3: have to happen. One of them is gonna have to
Speaker 3: stand out as a return specialist and take that job.
Speaker 3: And I think Turping right now is you know, head
Speaker 3: over heels above them. You got to prove to the
Speaker 3: pro Bowl. You got the Pro Bowl designation. Man, you
Speaker 3: you already. It's like being the first rounder. You go
Speaker 3: get every opportunity to go out there and mess it up.
Speaker 3: And we know what happened in preseason last year. That's
Speaker 3: what Comte Turping made. The noise was like, oh man,
Speaker 3: this dude is he's the real deal out a keybo Well.
Speaker 5: I mean, look, you can't put Pollard back there. Hey,
Speaker 5: that's not what you want to do. So so they're
Speaker 5: going to have to figure out who else goes. You know,
Speaker 5: who else is in this position besides besides Turping. But
Speaker 5: this is the beauty of this Jacksonville game, guys, is
Speaker 5: to see what they do, how do they utilize some
Speaker 5: of these players, and what positions and where do they
Speaker 5: go with it?
Speaker 6: So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5: That's dan Quinn passes me right behind me here, DQ
Speaker 5: get ready to go do an interview over here.
Speaker 3: I got I gotta ask you, man, because we are
Speaker 3: at the eight hundred thousand dollars mark for you talk
Speaker 3: about somebody with a point to prove asks the grind
Speaker 3: here is paying for eight hundred thousand dollars was in
Speaker 3: fine so far knowing come on, man, give me some
Speaker 3: good news. I need to know that at least we're
Speaker 3: making headway on potentially getting Zach back in camp.
Speaker 2: The camp ain't going up.
Speaker 6: I haven't heard that.
Speaker 5: No, I have not heard that. I have not heard
Speaker 5: that at all. You know, he's making a choice, he's
Speaker 5: making a stand. So until Sunday night football gets the
Speaker 5: New York Giants occurs, I'm really not I'm not thinking
Speaker 5: about it, honestly, really not. They McCarthy has talked about
Speaker 5: how Zach knows exactly what to do in this offense.
Speaker 5: He's looking looking at other guys and seeing what they
Speaker 5: can do in different reps at the right guard spot.
Speaker 5: When Zach decides to come back and play football, he
Speaker 5: will come back inside to play football.
Speaker 6: But he's making a business decision right now.
Speaker 5: And oh, well, you know this thing is gonna be
Speaker 5: costly for him. But I don't see by listening to
Speaker 5: the front office right now, I don't see there's any
Speaker 5: deal that's about to take place. And if it is
Speaker 5: a deal that takes place, is going to be happy,
Speaker 5: something along the lines of an extension that extends him
Speaker 5: another you know.
Speaker 6: Maybe two years.
Speaker 5: But right now I haven't heard that that's something that
Speaker 5: that was gonna occur.
Speaker 6: So, nah, he ain't here. But okay, it is what
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you eight hundred. That's a lot of Ducats ducks.
Speaker 3: And I can to me it's perplexing because it's like, man,
Speaker 3: this is the front office. Everybody you know knew we
Speaker 3: out there reporting becazactly like this. This is some who
Speaker 3: hung guy like we could go with aull them. I
Speaker 3: The train keeps rolling, man, this is a hall of favor.
Speaker 3: This is arguably the best guard in football right now
Speaker 3: and has been for the past five years. And all
Speaker 3: you've been hearing over the last couple of weeks is leverage.
Speaker 2: Who has leverage?
Speaker 3: Leverage this, leverage that, And you're looking at this offensive
Speaker 3: line and you're saying, dude, that guy that's not who
Speaker 3: you want to start with day one. I'm sorry, I mean,
Speaker 3: I can't honestly say it's probably a good thing that
Speaker 3: Josh Ball.
Speaker 2: Is getting reps right now.
Speaker 3: You want to see him get reps at the guard position,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure that the front office is applauding the
Speaker 3: fact that he's getting those reps.
Speaker 2: He ain't, Zach Martin, I'm just looking at costs. Listen,
Speaker 2: the cost and the benefit.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna keep going back to the big bozukah
Speaker 3: because that's what my man Jerry alluded to.
Speaker 2: All Right, you think about the cost of paying.
Speaker 3: Zach Martin to how it is going to affect your
Speaker 3: ability to pay the bazookah?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be going through this situation with
Speaker 2: him when it's top for him.
Speaker 3: To get because he don't want to hear you talking
Speaker 3: about well when remember when Zach held out, we have.
Speaker 2: To take care of him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Notbody trying to hear that.
Speaker 3: So we can talk all we want to about Zach
Speaker 3: Martin being back. But I think, based off what Jerry said,
Speaker 3: there's a guy a generational talent the next one.
Speaker 2: Because Zach Martin was one, what is one? And then
Speaker 2: now you got Michael.
Speaker 3: Parson where everybody clearly across the league is saying that
Speaker 3: he's one of the top guys that they've seen play,
Speaker 3: you know, since they've been watching football. So that's a
Speaker 3: guy I'm gonna be worried about because, like I said,
Speaker 3: two years from now, you go you sit him down
Speaker 3: and be like, he bro, this is all we got,
Speaker 3: It's all we got We gave you something to Zagon
Speaker 3: and we had to pay CD and now we don't
Speaker 3: have enough for you.
Speaker 2: He gonna look at you like the crazy. That's facts too.
Speaker 5: So you know what Danny what Parsons agent doesn't want
Speaker 5: to hear. Dak's agent want to hear and see the
Speaker 5: land agents want to here. And you know that old
Speaker 5: math formually we did business school. They don't want to
Speaker 5: see Jerry stretch out. Now here's our present value money
Speaker 5: and it's less because we paid Zach Martin. So the
Speaker 5: future value and what we were trying to get to,
Speaker 5: your guy is gonna be over here and not as
Speaker 5: much to know everybody.
Speaker 6: They got lucky on.
Speaker 5: Diggs because Diggs took top five money to the corner spot.
Speaker 5: I'm not anticipating Dak's agent saying, well just give me
Speaker 5: the average. No, he gonna look at what's justin Herbert
Speaker 5: at We want more. Michael Parson's gonna come up here
Speaker 5: because mikeet is set up there right there on the
Speaker 5: podium on Sunday. I'm a special player. Special player is
Speaker 5: not trying to take the average here. There's not gonna
Speaker 5: be no Tom Brady discounts coming around here.
Speaker 2: Guys.
Speaker 5: So when he Jerry talks about that money that he
Speaker 5: knows Zach Martin wants, it will affect it. And you
Speaker 5: got and before we even get to Parsons, you gotta
Speaker 5: take care of Lamb. You gotta take care of Dak,
Speaker 5: Terrence Steele's gonna have to factor into this equation. What
Speaker 5: if Tony Pollard ends up having another Pro Bowl season.
Speaker 5: I mean there's still other guys and other issues. You
Speaker 5: have to look at this football team. So when we
Speaker 5: talk about the leverage Zach Martin doesn't have it, these
Speaker 5: other players like Dak Prescott, CD Lamb, Micah Parson's, Terrence Steel,
Speaker 5: they'll have a leverage that he will not as a
Speaker 5: player under contract for two ways.
Speaker 2: He's NBC's on Newie scrugs. He will be back, Newie.
Speaker 3: You'll be back with us next week, or you'll still
Speaker 3: be out in knox Nor.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no.
Speaker 5: I'm flying home tomorrow as Berry Church is supposed to
Speaker 5: come out here and do some serious XM. So yeah,
Speaker 5: now I gotta come back, man, I gotta come back
Speaker 5: and go go help my kid move into her dorm
Speaker 5: room in college and get all her stuff taken care of.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for being out there and handling business
Speaker 3: man and going viral with your Sadie McCay uh interview,
Speaker 3: and thank you for handling all the business out there newly.
Speaker 2: Oh what is she?
Speaker 3: What are the donons? Man to school? Had Millie handling
Speaker 3: all the business? BC was asking, we went what school
Speaker 3: is she going to?
Speaker 5: Oh she's going to Texas College where actually Greg Gallis,
Speaker 5: former cowboy Greg Ellis was coaching at.
Speaker 6: For two years.
Speaker 5: So she's going out there. She's gonna try and walk
Speaker 5: on this soccer team. So you know, I'm out there
Speaker 5: rooting for man to get it, get get everything done.
Speaker 5: So so yeah, man, it's a great thing. Man, it's
Speaker 5: a great thing. So Savanna Reice is, uh, she's trying
Speaker 5: to become that adult man. So that's what we try
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Speaker 6: I throw the hat. I know what I thought my hat.
Speaker 6: You're gonna know it. Yesterday I threw the hat. He
Speaker 6: was like, he's chicken tas.
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Speaker 3: If you're gonna number dollars, if you had a one
Speaker 3: that last year for Super Bowl fifty seven with the
Speaker 3: Eagles going and they put you on the Eagle side,
Speaker 3: how mad would you have been? I wouldn't have been
Speaker 3: mad at all. What are you talking?
Speaker 2: Abould have went four Cowboy years just like I am
Speaker 2: right now. It would have been with it.
Speaker 3: You're only saying that because they lost the celebration I
Speaker 3: wont they got a pan on the came, you know's
Speaker 3: a sad one and the like. And as soon as
Speaker 3: Jaylen hurds he fumbled the ball and uh lineback the
Speaker 3: piece up run for a testown.
Speaker 2: I would have been back to life. Dollar on up.
Speaker 3: It got it looked like Montgomery, Alabama. But we're back here.
Speaker 3: They gonna take me off the reels. I mean we
Speaker 3: started like this. It just took us off the rails
Speaker 3: right away. But the NFL Network had its top one
Speaker 3: hundred players and the Cowboys had seven players in the
Speaker 3: top one hundred. There's only one team that had more
Speaker 3: than San Francisco forty nine ers, but our Arcs nemesis
Speaker 3: to San Francisco forty nine ers. But the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: had seven players in that top one hundred. And guys,
Speaker 3: obviously from your playing days, how much did you guys
Speaker 3: make of the NFL networks top one hundred.
Speaker 2: To me when I was.
Speaker 3: When I was playing, it wasn't a huge deal because
Speaker 3: when you go in there, they like break you down
Speaker 3: defensive meeting rooms, offensive meeting rooms. And when you go
Speaker 3: in there, either the captains or somebody will come in
Speaker 3: there and say, all right, these are the guys we're
Speaker 3: voting for. Pick your top players from these from this category.
Speaker 3: So it ain't like you going in there and everybody
Speaker 3: has a different sheet and saying, oh, this is my
Speaker 3: top one hundred, this is my top one hundred. Over here,
Speaker 3: you kind of all have the same one and you
Speaker 3: put it in together. So cats really just kind of
Speaker 3: looked at it, you know, it ain't that big of
Speaker 3: a deal.
Speaker 2: But also never made the hundred.
Speaker 3: So if i'm you know, I'm on to you know,
Speaker 3: if I was twenty one one one year and the
Speaker 3: next year they can I'm back, as you know, sixty five,
Speaker 3: how I feel some type of way.
Speaker 2: So I understand what they're doing. But to me, it
Speaker 2: wasn't really that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you. I probably can't
Speaker 3: even name a hundred. I was on special teams though,
Speaker 3: and if they probably had a kicker on there that
Speaker 3: played my position or something like that. But I mean,
Speaker 3: it's always like an interesting interesting thing to see when
Speaker 3: you want to see how the peer, how your peers
Speaker 3: rate other players.
Speaker 2: Right, the most.
Speaker 3: Important part to me is like that top ten, right
Speaker 3: you always when we play, you know, Tom Brady was
Speaker 3: gonna be probably at number one. But then now it's
Speaker 3: interesting to see the shuffle of like the different skill
Speaker 3: positions that are up there. Right, Pat Mahomes is the
Speaker 3: guy now, But then you start to see guys like
Speaker 3: Michael Parson's Where's Justin Jefferson? Like you start to see
Speaker 3: these type of guys and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's okay,
Speaker 3: that's right, or you get to look at it and say, nah,
Speaker 3: they ain't right, right. So I think that is the main,
Speaker 3: the main thing of looking at that one hundred. So
Speaker 3: I always look at it to see but have the dude,
Speaker 3: I don't recognize who they are until I see the highlights.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll be like, oh, yeah, he is good.
Speaker 3: But if like for me, it's like, man, do some
Speaker 3: of these guys get off just the name alone? Like
Speaker 3: if you look at it, you know Aaron Donald's dominating
Speaker 3: as that man has been these past however many years.
Speaker 2: He had kind of a down year. Last year he
Speaker 2: was hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the most part he was hurt, and he
Speaker 3: still was what I think it was in the top twenty,
Speaker 3: top ten. I mean it's almost like you can't have
Speaker 3: a list unless you put it in exactly.
Speaker 2: So it's like, how realistic is it? You know, to
Speaker 2: go by it?
Speaker 3: So we still, you know, because he was hurt last
Speaker 3: year's still the top one hundred guy. Yeah, but so
Speaker 3: going off career question a year yea, yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 3: when that'd be a hell of a drop all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, he top ten. Also he gets hurt the
Speaker 3: next year he's off the list, he'd be like, oh
Speaker 3: wait a second. Now, of the seven dollars Cowboys that
Speaker 3: are on this list, and it was DeMarcus Lawrence, Zach Martin,
Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs, Dak Prescott, Tony poll CD Lamb, and Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons to round out the top ten.
Speaker 2: Of those seven.
Speaker 3: Players, and let's take Dak out of all right, not
Speaker 3: of those six all right, one not being Dak. What
Speaker 3: is the one player that you can look on that
Speaker 3: list that has to have an impact on this team
Speaker 3: this year for the Cowboys to be able to compete
Speaker 3: for a championship. Tony Polery Tony Pouler, I think, I
Speaker 3: think when you look at our defense, you say, okay,
Speaker 3: at each level we got a guy. Some of those
Speaker 3: levels we got two guys, all right. Then you look
Speaker 3: at your office of linezac Burn comes back. Okay, we're
Speaker 3: night even sure if he's gonna be here. But then
Speaker 3: when you look at what we're really missing the running game.
Speaker 3: What happened when Tony Pollack went out in San Francisco
Speaker 3: in the San Francisco game, everything changed.
Speaker 2: Everything changed.
Speaker 3: That that home run threat that we had that was going,
Speaker 3: the ability to change pace out there in the running game,
Speaker 3: that was gone. So you saw that happen in the
Speaker 3: San Francisco game, and now there's no Zeke. So the
Speaker 3: person who has the most to foot on their shoulder
Speaker 3: shoulders right now. To me, it's Tony Poula. We don't
Speaker 3: have a running game right then, it's all on deck,
Speaker 3: it's all on Cooks, it's all on on Ceedde Lamb
Speaker 3: and Michael Gallup. And then you get to that situation
Speaker 3: where you see a guy throwing fifty sixty passes a week,
Speaker 3: and now you got an issue. So to me, it's
Speaker 3: Tony polar You don't with you on that Tony Pollard aspect.
Speaker 3: I definitely think he has to come out there and
Speaker 3: ball out in order to keep this offense balance, because
Speaker 3: we've seen what happens when it ain't balanced. Turnover start
Speaker 3: to go. But besides Pollard, I'm gonna go with Cede
Speaker 3: Lamb on this one. I think he needs to continue
Speaker 3: to be that number one wide receiver. You know we've
Speaker 3: seen early last year he kind of struggled to get going,
Speaker 3: you know, he kind of was with the drops or
Speaker 3: just wasn't that number one guy going too.
Speaker 2: But from week eight.
Speaker 3: On, I mean, he exploded, ended up with one hundred
Speaker 3: and some catches out there, pro bowler. So if he
Speaker 3: can continue that just level of being that number one
Speaker 3: wide receiver, he'll take a lot of pressure off of
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, off Cooks, off of Gallop.
Speaker 2: That'll open things up for this offense immensely.
Speaker 3: So I agree with you on that, Pollard, and I'm
Speaker 3: definitely gonna put Cede Lamb out there.
Speaker 2: He needs to continue to be that number one wide receiver.
Speaker 2: So do we have a one A in one B
Speaker 2: or do we have a clear number one, clear number
Speaker 2: two A receiver? It's your show, go ahead, No, No, I'm
Speaker 2: asking you. I'mouna say we got a clear number one
Speaker 2: in CD.
Speaker 3: Let's say he's that clear number one, and right now
Speaker 3: I think I think Cooks is the two.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, well, I asked.
Speaker 3: I asked from the question of like we've seen what
Speaker 3: Cooks has been able to do no matter what roster
Speaker 3: he's been on, and the roster he was on last year,
Speaker 3: you look at you and said, come on, man, now
Speaker 3: you get them with a guy like Dak, a coach
Speaker 3: like coach McCarthy, and a new offense where somebody you
Speaker 3: know can be productive, productive in a new organization. I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, I think there's gonna be another breakout
Speaker 3: year for Cooks. I think it's gonna be another break
Speaker 3: a guy that has that type of speed that can
Speaker 3: take you down the field all right and beat the
Speaker 3: deep threat, then also can route.
Speaker 2: You up DB's They're not gonna know what to do.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna know what to do.
Speaker 3: That's what happened, right, So you start off with seeing
Speaker 3: Ceedee Lamb getting doubled and you got Cooks getting one
Speaker 3: on one. That's an issue, and I think all of
Speaker 3: that's gonna be predicated on Dak Prescott's ability to make
Speaker 3: decisions over the middle of the field, but those short
Speaker 3: routes being able to bake the defense into coming in
Speaker 3: closer to be able to hit Brandon Cooks on the
Speaker 3: home run ball. He can't just be a one trick
Speaker 3: pony in this offense. So like some of the guys
Speaker 3: that we saw last year can think is t Y Hillton,
Speaker 3: he was just a fade and go right. We don't
Speaker 3: need Brandon Cooks to be that. We need him to
Speaker 3: be the intermediate routes. We need a lot of guys
Speaker 3: to do that because in the West Coast offense, as
Speaker 3: you guys know, the ball comes out quick and it's
Speaker 3: gonna be the decision making of Dak that absolutely is
Speaker 3: gonna sentuate that talent that Brandon Cooks had. I think
Speaker 3: he's he's gonna be great in this offense. But I
Speaker 3: think it's in the scheme and it's gonna be in
Speaker 3: the play calling, in the rhythm of the offense that
Speaker 3: actually allows him to get off. But I'm gonna pick
Speaker 3: my guy. I guess who y'all think. Who y'all think
Speaker 3: I will pick the But you're gonna take some money
Speaker 3: from him, Well, I'm sorry, mart No, that's not what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's what but say Micah, because if Micah
Speaker 3: can be a twenty sack, this can be a twenty
Speaker 3: sacks season for him, that's gonna impact everything for our defense.
Speaker 2: That's gonna change everything.
Speaker 3: You've played on one of those kinds of defenses that
Speaker 3: I mean, they were coming after you. And I believe
Speaker 3: with all the talk about this defense being the number
Speaker 3: one defense, and obviously you can see it on paper,
Speaker 3: they're gonna go have to go out there and play
Speaker 3: for it. But I believe that Micah is that guy
Speaker 3: that if he can man, if he can have a
Speaker 3: twenty sax season and just be a monster in impacting
Speaker 3: the game, I think that's gonna change everything for the Cowboy.
Speaker 3: I agree with you, if he can have one of
Speaker 3: those you know, JJ Watt type years when he was
Speaker 3: in his prime, Defensive Player of the Year, Aaron Donald
Speaker 3: wre they were just taking over the game. It makes
Speaker 3: it a lot easier for your secondary out there because
Speaker 3: you can just sit back and look at the quarterback
Speaker 3: from a safety standpoint. Even at the corners, you can
Speaker 3: sit and zone and say, I know, this ball gotta
Speaker 3: come out within the next five seconds or three seconds,
Speaker 3: because we know Parcels is coming off the edge and
Speaker 3: that creates a lot of takeaways that way. So if
Speaker 3: he's balling, it'll make things a lot easier for that
Speaker 3: defense over wrong, I'm sticking with mine, sticking with you
Speaker 3: hard hit it. But look, George and d C who
Speaker 3: is behind enemy lines? George, you have to hey, kudos
Speaker 3: to you, brother, because I know you got a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff going on. If you in DC and you're
Speaker 3: a cowboy, then But George said, do you feel the
Speaker 3: starter should play at least a couple of serieses in
Speaker 3: this first preseason?
Speaker 2: No? No, Listen.
Speaker 3: If it were just the look, the perception of little look,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't even take them to the game. All Hey, man,
Speaker 3: y'all just go ahead, chill out of the whole. You
Speaker 3: ain't even gotta be there. I don't want you to
Speaker 3: be close to the field. This is there is. There
Speaker 3: are only three preseason games now, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: There used to be four. Who knows what a preseason
Speaker 3: is going after this. I do not want to see
Speaker 3: my starter going week one and have something happened to
Speaker 3: him that would affect him up until week six, seven, eight.
Speaker 3: It just it just don't make sense.
Speaker 2: Get a young guy.
Speaker 3: I missed the opportunity because I could have teased that
Speaker 3: question for the next segment because I was going to
Speaker 3: ask a preseason mental note.
Speaker 2: I gotta be better.
Speaker 3: All right, We'll be back because I got questions to
Speaker 3: ask you about this first preseason game and who these
Speaker 3: guys are looking at in this first preseason game coming
Speaker 3: up next.
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Speaker 3: Back here for the final segment of the Players Lounge
Speaker 3: And uh, Man's been one of them kind of shows.
Speaker 2: Man new he got it crunk. He gotta saw the.
Speaker 3: Date right, you know, he gotta start right after back
Speaker 3: n G is being right, and we'd have kept this
Speaker 3: thing going the whole way. But I gotta ask you guys,
Speaker 3: for two undrafted guys that knew that the preseason was
Speaker 3: going to be so important, how did you guys approach
Speaker 3: or what was your first preseason game? Like, man, that
Speaker 3: was the hardest game I ever played in my life,
Speaker 3: with with with the INN, the NFL, just preseason for
Speaker 3: a guy like me being undrafted, I had to play
Speaker 3: almost was almost every snap at safety as well as
Speaker 3: every special team snap. So you going from kicksteping, blocking,
Speaker 3: defensive ends on punt, running down on punts, so you
Speaker 3: got a forty yard sprint.
Speaker 2: Then it's right after that.
Speaker 3: If you ain't got a commercial time out or commercial break,
Speaker 3: you going right the defense, and they they roll those
Speaker 3: preseason games, so you just going back to back to back.
Speaker 3: Then if you do stop them, you got to go
Speaker 3: on punk return and block people. So it was one
Speaker 3: of the toughest games I've ever played. I mean, Danny
Speaker 3: could attested. We was out there gas because I think
Speaker 3: it was just me and him playing safety for the
Speaker 3: most part, so we had the entire game to go
Speaker 3: against it. I think it was going against Cincinnati in
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game. I did get the tackle
Speaker 3: o Cho Senko, so I was pretty cool. But other
Speaker 3: than that, man, it was it was one of the
Speaker 3: toughest games I ever played. Yeah, listen, like everything Church said,
Speaker 3: we had to do everything all right. So you go
Speaker 3: out there and then it's it's your first opportunity to
Speaker 3: play NFL football against other people that are not in
Speaker 3: your practice. Right then it's the Hall of Fame game,
Speaker 3: so it's a week earlier, so it's just you. Right,
Speaker 3: So now you essentially are playing a prime time game
Speaker 3: in your first opportunity to play in the NFL. Look
Speaker 3: luckily for me, uh special teams went well. They threw
Speaker 3: up a hell Mary the end of the hands. I
Speaker 3: got mad, you know, I said, So it worked out
Speaker 3: for me. I was glad I was in it. But
Speaker 3: did I want to play any more preseason games after that?
Speaker 3: And I was like, Noah, coach, I'm good. You see
Speaker 3: I got the skill, bro, just this hold done you
Speaker 3: if you play, if you could, you know, pick early
Speaker 3: in the pre come onave me out. Not you, but
Speaker 3: but like you really approach the game knowing that this
Speaker 3: is your chance. Right, so you go until you say, listen,
Speaker 3: we put all this work in the OTA's rookie minute camp.
Speaker 3: Now we in camp. Now it's time for us to
Speaker 3: go out here and show what we what we can do.
Speaker 3: And if you have a coach that has your back,
Speaker 3: he's going to tell you exactly what you need to
Speaker 3: do and let you know, he's gonna try to put
Speaker 3: you in a position to make those players. And we
Speaker 3: had coaches that really really were rooting for us and
Speaker 3: wanted us to be on the squad.
Speaker 2: So coach Maxie was there, Joe D.
Speaker 3: Camillis was there, and they were like, hey, listen, this
Speaker 3: is what you have to do.
Speaker 2: Bring you to the sideline, coach you through. So for
Speaker 2: us it was positive.
Speaker 3: Everybody else probably some people probably don't get that same
Speaker 3: positive experience. This is when sorry, this is when you're
Speaker 3: in trouble. You're a rookie, all right, it's your first
Speaker 3: time coming on there and you don't get no playing
Speaker 3: time in the first Prezeas game. You know, they don't
Speaker 3: even schedule out the reps for you. That's so look
Speaker 3: for the guys who's not getting no You just clean jersey.
Speaker 3: So guys get before we get up out of here.
Speaker 3: One name for a guy that you're looking at in
Speaker 3: this preseason game.
Speaker 2: Child's Baul. Easy. Look, Zach Martin's not there.
Speaker 3: Even if he was, we would still be trying to
Speaker 3: figure out what the what the change would jobs ball be?
Speaker 3: From right tackle to right guard? Can you play right?
Speaker 3: We got a new offensive line coach. Everything's new for you,
Speaker 3: got a new voice for teaching you. Whatever new technique
Speaker 3: are you? Are you embracing it? Have you worked out
Speaker 3: in the summer, worked out all the kinks that you
Speaker 3: had last season to make sure that you're a better player, Like,
Speaker 3: we have an opportunity to see that. So I want
Speaker 3: to see, Hey, man, I is Zach Martin don't come
Speaker 3: back first first regular season game?
Speaker 2: Hey can you hold up? Then?
Speaker 3: For me, I'm going with a Marquees bell out there,
Speaker 3: the big safety from Porter.
Speaker 2: I think it was a famu. I think he will too.
Speaker 3: So to me, he has an opportunity out there because
Speaker 3: you know they paid the two top SATs, Hooker and wils.
Speaker 2: You know those guys are paid curse.
Speaker 3: He's been an outstanding safety since he's been here with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, but they didn't offer him that those bag,
Speaker 3: or at least we didn't think they offered him those
Speaker 3: that bag. So he has an opportunity to just slide
Speaker 3: in there as at that third safety position.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe not this year but next year.
Speaker 3: So to me, I want to see what he can
Speaker 3: go out there, soda versatility out there, and see what
Speaker 3: he can do for this preseason. One name for me,
Speaker 3: Na shon Wright, Right, I want to see what Na
Speaker 3: shon Wright, the third round pick has been on the team.
Speaker 3: Now this is going on this third season, A lot
Speaker 3: of questions have been asked about na Shon Wright, even
Speaker 3: his ability to make this fifty three. And I think
Speaker 3: a lot of his fate is tied in to Kelvin Joseph.
Speaker 2: Seriously, they're tied in together in the way.
Speaker 3: But I'm really looking at Nashon Wright, his height, six
Speaker 3: four hundred and ninety five pounds, see him put this together.
Speaker 2: He can be one of.
Speaker 3: Those guys that that's in the cornerback rotation that you
Speaker 3: know Dan quinn Is. He likes those big corner long
Speaker 3: corners and uh, this is a guy man that has
Speaker 3: to make an imprint, especially uh in the preseason. But man,
Speaker 3: that's it, that's all we got. We got Cowboy football
Speaker 3: coming up on Saturday.
Speaker 2: It's on. Are you going to camp? You Na, I'll
Speaker 2: be back then'll be back here for Okay. So he
Speaker 2: was cabin Yeah, no, no, I got serious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know when who knows? But man, we
Speaker 3: wrapped it up. Man, what hell of a show show.
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Speaker 3: throwing our hats up and having the poldogeays and we're
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