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Speaker 1: I do a show and I sit down, and it's
Speaker 1: really not much for me to say, because the words
Speaker 1: coming out of somebody else's mouth is incredibly potent, obviously controversial,
Speaker 1: definitely disagreeable in a lot of people's eyes. But nevertheless,
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Speaker 1: the other side. And that's what today's show is about.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: My guest today is a woman by the name of
Speaker 1: Candace Owens, married with four children, very very popular conservative
Speaker 1: pundit has been for years. She's been incredibly controversial along
Speaker 1: the way in the eyes of a lot of people.
Speaker 1: She has spoken out of against the B two movement,
Speaker 1: she has spoken out against Black Lives Matter, she has
Speaker 1: spoken out against some people within the conservative community. She
Speaker 1: definitely has made her voice heard about what she believes
Speaker 1: as it pertains to the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: The list goes on and on. You've heard of.
Speaker 1: Blexit, which she's created when she created years ago.
Speaker 2: You've heard of other things that she has done.
Speaker 1: She's the best selling author as well, and she has
Speaker 1: a very popular podcast that's now eclipsed more than four
Speaker 1: million subscribers. But she's not a fan favorite in the
Speaker 1: eyes of a lot of people, and in this particular
Speaker 1: day and age, certainly not anybody from the Jewish community
Speaker 1: in light of her comments about Israel, specifically the leadership
Speaker 1: of Prime Minister Benjamin net in Yahoo. She has spoken
Speaker 1: out fervently and feverishly on many many occasions, and with
Speaker 1: this sit down interview without much prompting, she certainly didn't
Speaker 1: hesitate to do so this particular moment in time. And
Speaker 1: as I think about that, I think about all the
Speaker 1: things that I want to discuss with her. I think
Speaker 1: about the controversial issues and challenges that she has faced.
Speaker 1: I think about her views about Christianities, her views about politics,
Speaker 1: her thoughts on immigration, and how these views has led
Speaker 1: to her life being threatened. All of these are things
Speaker 1: that I was looking forward to talking to Candice Owens
Speaker 1: about It's not the first time I've spoken to her.
Speaker 2: I sincerely doubt if it will be the last.
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Speaker 1: The Oklahoma City Thunder lead the series three to two
Speaker 1: against the Indiana Pacers, which will head back to Indiana
Speaker 1: for tomorrow night's Game six. So I'll be giving you
Speaker 1: my picks for Game six. So let's start right now.
Speaker 1: First up, we'll Shay gil just Alexander score more or
Speaker 1: less than thirty three and.
Speaker 2: A half points.
Speaker 1: He's shave butter, as my colleague Malik Malika Andrews coined, Okay,
Speaker 1: Shae Butter, He's gonna do his thing now. The Indiana
Speaker 1: pace has showing an inability to stop this brother's averaging
Speaker 1: over thirty or forty six percent shooting, particularly over the
Speaker 1: last three games. I see more of the same. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with more on this one. Next up, will
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams score more or less than twenty three and
Speaker 1: a half points? Did you just see him drop forty?
Speaker 1: Did you just see him get delaying at will? Did
Speaker 1: you just see the fact that he's unguardable by anybody
Speaker 1: on Indiana? Have you seen his jump shot of starting
Speaker 1: the flow now after coming into game five shooting twenty
Speaker 1: one percent from three point range. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: more on this one because I think Jay Williams is
Speaker 1: flowing right now.
Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Next up, will.
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam scored more or less than twenty one points.
Speaker 2: He has shown up.
Speaker 1: He has shown up for the Indiana Pacers, especially with
Speaker 1: Halliburton being out, You're gonna have to use him as
Speaker 1: a four point even more. He's got to be your
Speaker 1: number one offensive option. I think Ricarlile knows that. As
Speaker 1: the coach of the Indiana Pacers. I think he'll get
Speaker 1: him the ball more.
Speaker 2: And I think.
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam will answer the call on his home turf.
Speaker 1: He's gonna score more than twenty one points in game six.
Speaker 1: And finally, when aaron NEI Smith score more or less
Speaker 1: than eleven points, I'm gonna go with more of this
Speaker 1: as well. For the same reasons haller Burton being hampered.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be out, but he's got that cash trained.
Speaker 1: MRI is showing us that. So bottom line is he's
Speaker 1: gonna be hampered, to say the least.
Speaker 2: TJ.
Speaker 1: Mcconald's gonna come in off the bench. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: the little engine that could to do his thing. But
Speaker 1: in the end, if you're the Indiana Paces, it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to win by committee.
Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna have to do so.
Speaker 1: Obie Topping is gonna have some say, Matthoin Benedict Mathermin
Speaker 1: is gonna have some say. All right, them Hard is
Speaker 1: gonna have some say. But the top two scoring options
Speaker 1: for the Indiana Pacers should be Pascal Siakam and of
Speaker 1: course Nie Smith themselves.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with more on this one.
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Speaker 1: My guest is known for her shop with her candid
Speaker 1: opinions as far as I'm concerned, highly intelligent positions. She
Speaker 1: hosts the popular YouTube show Candace Please welcome back to
Speaker 1: the show to one and only Candace Owners.
Speaker 2: How are you, Candas? How's everything everything is good?
Speaker 3: You know? New baby? So I'm barely sleeping, but it's
Speaker 3: of course a blessing.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, you don't look at so compliment
Speaker 1: to you. That's number one. Number two, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: just getting back into action. Before I get into some
Speaker 1: of these questions, because I could have wait to talk
Speaker 1: to you about this stuff. How long have you been out?
Speaker 1: How long have you How much of a break did
Speaker 1: you take?
Speaker 3: I took six weeks and made a couple of appearances
Speaker 3: because some stories were just so big that I felt
Speaker 3: like I needed to respond to them. But other than that,
Speaker 3: I've just kind of been in baby world.
Speaker 2: I got you. Well, listen, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking time out of your schedule
Speaker 1: because I definitely wanted to talk to you about a
Speaker 1: couple of things, and of course yourself. But let's get
Speaker 1: right into it. I want to have you back on
Speaker 1: to get your perspective. With some trending news headlines, you
Speaker 1: called the escalation between Israel and Iran a propaganda war.
Speaker 1: We all know what's been going on between Israel and Iran.
Speaker 1: We've heard President Trump speak about it. You've been on
Speaker 1: the record calling it a propaganda war.
Speaker 3: Explain that, Candice, Well, it was very obvious that this
Speaker 3: war was going to happen because the American foreign policy
Speaker 3: is dictated by Israel, and it was problematic that Bibina
Speaker 3: and Yahoo was increasing his rhetoric against Iran. And this
Speaker 3: is after they have effectively seized land in Syria. They
Speaker 3: were cheering what happened in Syria. We knew that it
Speaker 3: was going to end up wind up with Christians being
Speaker 3: mass murdered, which is what's happening right now. And what's
Speaker 3: happening in the Middle East. For those who aren't clear
Speaker 3: on this is Israel is simply is expanding its borders
Speaker 3: or woether that be by carpet bombing women and children,
Speaker 3: which we have not had a person with power effectively
Speaker 3: say that this is morally wrong, of course, and now
Speaker 3: it seems they also want to annex the West Bank.
Speaker 3: What's happening in the West Bank, which has nothing to
Speaker 3: do with Gaza, is the individuals that live there are
Speaker 3: being traumatized by the IDF And so if you're paying attention,
Speaker 3: it's very clear that they have become increasingly radical and
Speaker 3: they are effectively, as they always do, using the American
Speaker 3: military to fulfill their foreign policy interests because they are
Speaker 3: a small nation and they don't have the bodies to
Speaker 3: be able to accomplish that. They need the might of
Speaker 3: the American military to accomplish their foreign Middle Eastern objectives.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, it was very I am on record
Speaker 3: saying this for the last two years. We're going to
Speaker 3: war with Iran one way or the other. Because what
Speaker 3: bb Net and Yah Who wants is what bib Net
Speaker 3: and yah Who gets.
Speaker 2: How is that? How is that the case?
Speaker 1: Because listen, I'm watching the Daily Show the other day
Speaker 1: and I'm watching John Stewart, who obviously is to support
Speaker 1: of these Jewish and he's support of the Jewish community
Speaker 1: and Israel, of course, but he spoke out about how
Speaker 1: Net and Yahoo was saying the same thing recently that
Speaker 1: he said in twenty eighteen, that he said in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: that he said in twenty eleven. And what's surprising to
Speaker 1: me is that this seems to be a community divided
Speaker 1: within the on Jewish can But you have some people
Speaker 1: who are about being isolation this which is something we'll
Speaker 1: get into later, and don't necessarily support this. And then
Speaker 1: you got guys like conservative pundit Mark Levin, who I
Speaker 1: know that you know a thing or two about. You know,
Speaker 1: I know him, I've known him for years, and he
Speaker 1: is fixated on this. He believes that America should be evolved.
Speaker 1: He believes that Iran is evil and that they need
Speaker 1: to be wiped off the face of this earth. And
Speaker 1: essentially the threats that they've made, not just Israel, but
Speaker 1: death to America as well justifies the kind of things
Speaker 1: that we have been seeing. Do you know, do you
Speaker 1: take that into consideration when you're giving your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think one of the things that the
Speaker 3: public needs to recognize is this intentional conflation. And it's
Speaker 3: completely wrong of Israel, the foreign nation which is being
Speaker 3: led up by Prime Minister bibing Net and Yahoo and
Speaker 3: Jewish people. That would be an absolute nonsense. If I
Speaker 3: sat here and I said, well, you know, whatever happens
Speaker 3: in Nigeria, it means that if you critique the Nigerian government,
Speaker 3: that you're somehow against black people in America, that we
Speaker 3: would all say that to nonsense. But this is they
Speaker 3: have been very successful in this idea that if you
Speaker 3: critique what is happening in the Middle East and what
Speaker 3: actions are being led by bb Net and Yahoo's government
Speaker 3: radical government, then you're somehow anti Semitic. So it shouldn't
Speaker 3: surprise you to see that many Jewish people have taken
Speaker 3: to the streets, not only Jewish, but by the way
Speaker 3: Israelis because, as we know it in America, you can
Speaker 3: be an American and not support what the government is doing.
Speaker 3: I am not supporting right now the decisions that are
Speaker 3: being made by the Trump campaign as it pertains to
Speaker 3: Middle Eastern policy. But they have the disagreement. You have
Speaker 3: Israelis taking to the street, boycotting, protesting, bbing in Yahoo.
Speaker 3: And similarly, you have Jewish people who recognize that there
Speaker 3: has been this wrong conflation as if all Jewish people
Speaker 3: agree with the NonStop campaign of bombing in the Middle East,
Speaker 3: which has essentially been in effect since nineteen forty eight,
Speaker 3: since the creation of Israel as a nation. And so
Speaker 3: I'm not conflicted or confused about what's happening. I find
Speaker 3: it to be as disingenuous as attaching. Well, if you
Speaker 3: critique Black Lives Matter as an organization, this means that
Speaker 3: you're critiquing all black people. Know it doesn't doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that whatsoever, I'm critiquing the Israeli Prime Minister. I am
Speaker 3: critiquing their actions. Really their actions, which have began since
Speaker 3: nineteen forty eight. The more that I become educated about
Speaker 3: the topic, it has always been this despicable. It has
Speaker 3: always been a campaign of burming, of carpet bombing and
Speaker 3: theft stealing lands. And when people notice what they're doing,
Speaker 3: they say, well, you can't say that because of anti Semitism.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Okay, you know how I feel about this,
Speaker 3: especially as someone who's been called an uncle Tom and
Speaker 3: Nakun for critiquing things that were happening within the black community.
Speaker 3: I am not going to respond to name calling. I'm
Speaker 3: going to respond to the facts, and the facts are
Speaker 3: Piebat and Yah. Who is doing in the Middle East
Speaker 3: is a terrorist campaign.
Speaker 1: When you I saw a recent episode, I forgot who
Speaker 1: you were talking to. Forgive me for not knowing his name,
Speaker 1: but you were showing highlights of Dave Portno, you know,
Speaker 1: for Barstool and how he was going at one of
Speaker 1: the individuals that I think was he employs, and he
Speaker 1: went ballistic because of a joke that was being aimed
Speaker 1: in his direction or what have you, and I don't
Speaker 1: remember the joke, So I apologize for that, but you
Speaker 1: highlighting his reaction because you were pointing out how he
Speaker 1: could joke about some things. But if you joke about
Speaker 1: anything at this particular moment in time, it's going to
Speaker 1: be labeled anti Semitic. Is that something that you feel
Speaker 1: fervently about, that you feel adamant about in terms of
Speaker 1: you just can't say anything? Is such a lopsided thing,
Speaker 1: because when I think about the Jewish community, of of
Speaker 1: course I'm looking at some of the things that are transpiring.
Speaker 2: I don't like it one bit.
Speaker 1: In the same breath, I'm thinking about October seventh, from
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, when they were attacked and
Speaker 1: people were kidnapp people were killed, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 1: and the retaliation on their part was predictable and in
Speaker 1: the odds of a lot of people understandable.
Speaker 2: That's where I come from with it. Where are you
Speaker 2: coming from with it?
Speaker 1: When I use a port no example or others, as
Speaker 1: you allude to anti Semitism, which is obviously a grave
Speaker 1: concern for the Jewish community at this particular moment in time.
Speaker 3: First and foremost, I can think of nothing more anti
Speaker 3: semitic than two years of bombing the Palestinians, who are
Speaker 3: Semitic people. That's another thing. They just decided they're the
Speaker 3: only Semitic people, which is absolutely absurd and it's erroneous.
Speaker 3: But further to your point, there was this media effort
Speaker 3: and we've all seen over the last two years, it's
Speaker 3: been this increasing slur of anti Semitism everywhere. Like people
Speaker 3: who have been in the public space forever and have
Speaker 3: never been accused of being anti Semites are now being
Speaker 3: accused of being anti Semites, me being one of them.
Speaker 3: I worked for two Jewish organis before I was suddenly
Speaker 3: being accused of being anti Semitic. So sometimes on its face,
Speaker 3: you have to ask yourself a question. And again I
Speaker 3: will use the example of BLM, where suddenly it seems
Speaker 3: like everyone is being accused of racism, to the point
Speaker 3: that it was becoming a parody, like someone would braid
Speaker 3: their hair and they'd be like, cancel this girl, because
Speaker 3: this is appropriation. When you start to see that increase,
Speaker 3: and what people are actually trying to do is control speech. Right,
Speaker 3: this guy said, I think it's okay if someone jokes
Speaker 3: at you and calls you Rabbi Dave port Noi, you
Speaker 3: should be able to take a joke, right, welcome to
Speaker 3: the Internet. Everyone's called different things, and he has a
Speaker 3: meltdown and asks him. Dave Portner says, how many Jews
Speaker 3: have to die before you stop joking? That's an emotional
Speaker 3: manipulation tactic. Okay. Nobody dies from a joke. Okay, nobody
Speaker 3: dies if somebody tweets at Dave Portnoy. Hey, your Rabbi,
Speaker 3: Dave Portnoy. Now as they're critiquing you, and you only
Speaker 3: do that. You only start to come in on speech
Speaker 3: and to demand all these rules and these cancelations when
Speaker 3: you have something to hide when you are wrong. Okay,
Speaker 3: Because when you're winning on the basis of your ideas,
Speaker 3: when you're winning on the basis of the argument, you
Speaker 3: don't ask for more censorship. I want the debate. When
Speaker 3: I know I'm right about something, I'm not going censor
Speaker 3: the wrong guy. I'm like, platform the wrong guy, get
Speaker 3: me across from him so i can embarrass him. So
Speaker 3: we knew this was coming on the basis of this
Speaker 3: increase of smearing people as anti semites for asking rational questions,
Speaker 3: and so I'm not surprised that we've arrived at this point.
Speaker 2: Well way, I would push back on that canvas is
Speaker 2: that's you.
Speaker 1: You're highly intellectual, very very articulate, very researched, exceptional at
Speaker 1: defending your points, etc. And so that could give you
Speaker 1: the I don't want to say the motivation, but the
Speaker 1: ability to be calm and collective in articulating a point
Speaker 1: of view to refute something somebody else is growing and
Speaker 1: throwing at you. But if you're a Dave Portinal, just
Speaker 1: to use this example, and you're a Jewish individual who
Speaker 1: emphatically believes that this anti Semitism race raving through this country,
Speaker 1: if not this world, at this particular moment in time,
Speaker 1: you can't.
Speaker 2: Understand why he would react.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he should have gone as far
Speaker 1: as he did, but can you understand where he's coming
Speaker 1: from when he's passionate about it, Because to me, it's
Speaker 1: coupled with a fear that the Jewish community is feeling
Speaker 1: at this particular moment in time because of what they're
Speaker 1: doing and to use your words, because of the action
Speaker 1: of their own government in Israel.
Speaker 3: I can't understand it, not even percent, okay, And nothing
Speaker 3: is more obnoxious in having somebody as successful a multi
Speaker 3: millionaire probably doesn't even touch his own door handles, pretending
Speaker 3: that he's just so terrified and he can't go outside.
Speaker 3: That's a nonsense, Okay. He is trying to hype up
Speaker 3: his victimhood because he does not have an argument to make,
Speaker 3: and that's what people do. They lean into victimhood when
Speaker 3: they cannot rebut an argument. It'd been very easy for
Speaker 3: him to calmly explain, this is the reason why this
Speaker 3: is wrong, and so and so died because of this joke.
Speaker 3: Someone fell over and died because someone tweeted Rabbi Dave Portnoy.
Speaker 3: But that's nonsense. So he went with screaming, and then
Speaker 3: in this weird leave owner vibe tells him I own you,
Speaker 3: and I pay you what I own you, Beth, which
Speaker 3: is just quite frankly despicable.
Speaker 1: Got you, got you? You know what I gotta keep
Speaker 1: I've gotta keep in mind the candace. When I'm talking
Speaker 1: to you, I'm gonna make sure I don't raise my
Speaker 1: voice or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Have you got me?
Speaker 1: You gotta be wondering if I did the wrong things
Speaker 1: a boy raising my voice talking sports for crowd out loud,
Speaker 1: because that's a good oline like that. Let me look
Speaker 1: at myself, Let me check myself just a little bit
Speaker 1: more in the future because.
Speaker 2: Candas is bringing up some very valid points. I got it.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 1: Let me move on to Tucker Calls and while I
Speaker 1: have you here, and I want to get into you
Speaker 1: a little bit later because I want to talk about
Speaker 1: some things involving you directly, but right now I wanted
Speaker 1: to touch on Tucker Calls in the form of Fox
Speaker 1: News host got into a fiery exchange on Tuesday, you know,
Speaker 1: with Senator Ted Cruz over his support for President Trump
Speaker 1: and his posturing towards Israel. At least that's what Tucker
Speaker 1: Callson claims it to be. I want to show you
Speaker 1: this clip right now with Tucker Calls and getting into
Speaker 1: it with Ted Cruise.
Speaker 2: Take a look at this, Candas.
Speaker 4: How many people living around By the way, I don't
Speaker 4: know the population at all.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know the population.
Speaker 4: You don't know the population of the country. You seek
Speaker 4: to topple how many people living around ninety two million?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, how could you not know that.
Speaker 5: I don't sit around memorizing population tables.
Speaker 4: Well, it's kind of relevant because you're calling for the
Speaker 4: overthrow of the government.
Speaker 5: Why is it relevant whether it will because ninety million
Speaker 5: or eighty million or a hundred million.
Speaker 4: Because if you don't know anything about the country. You
Speaker 4: didn't say I don't know anything about Okay, what's the
Speaker 4: ethnic mix of I wrong? They are Persians and well
Speaker 4: presuminantly Shia. Okay, you don't know anything about Iran. So okay,
Speaker 4: I'm not the Tucker Carlson bird on Iran. You're a
Speaker 4: center who's calling there the one government about the country.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 5: No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the
Speaker 5: one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 5: Who can't figure out General Solamoni and you.
Speaker 3: Believe they're trying to murder Trump?
Speaker 4: Yes, because you're not calling for military strikes against them
Speaker 4: in retaliation and if.
Speaker 5: They really believe that carrying out military strikes today you
Speaker 5: said Israel was right with our help. I've said we
Speaker 5: Israel is leading them, but we're supporting them.
Speaker 4: Well, this you're breaking news here because the US government
Speaker 4: last night denied the National Security Council spokesman Alex Feiffer
Speaker 4: denied on behalf of Trump that we were acting on
Speaker 4: Israel's behalf in any offensive capacity.
Speaker 5: We're not bombing, then Israel's bombing that you just said
Speaker 5: we were we are supporting as I says.
Speaker 4: You're a senator if you're saying the United States government
Speaker 4: is now we're with Iran. Right now, people are listening.
Speaker 2: Candice, you saw it a What do you make about that?
Speaker 2: Face off? Right there? Your thoughts?
Speaker 3: So, first thing I want to say is I greatly
Speaker 3: respect both of these men. I very much like Ted
Speaker 3: Cruz as a person. I have had nothing but positive
Speaker 3: relations with him anytime that I come across him. But
Speaker 3: in this clip, it really embodies everything that I think
Speaker 3: the American people are so frustrated with. Right, you have
Speaker 3: a person who is keen to go to war with Iran,
Speaker 3: and he is suggesting that it is I guess, a
Speaker 3: form of trick to ask him, what is the population
Speaker 3: of Iran? If you're going to make a vote that
Speaker 3: we should go to war with this nation on behalf
Speaker 3: of Israel. And it is a fact that Ted Cruz
Speaker 3: accepts a lot of money from APAX, so they lobby,
Speaker 3: and you know, the Israel pack lobbies. He's one of
Speaker 3: the senators that takes a lot of money from APAC
Speaker 3: every year. You would imagine that you've made some estimation
Speaker 3: in your mind that A there is a imminent, perceivable
Speaker 3: threat to the American people if you are in fact
Speaker 3: America first and it's front of out Americans, and B
Speaker 3: that if we go to war with them, we can win.
Speaker 3: And so in going through that line of questioning in
Speaker 3: your head, can we win this, like is there a
Speaker 3: threat to American people? You, of course are going to
Speaker 3: assess the population size, like we're a nation of three
Speaker 3: hundred million people, how big is our military? Their nation
Speaker 3: of how many people, how big is their military? And
Speaker 3: he hasn't done that. He's omitting like, hey, I actually
Speaker 3: don't even know the population size of Iran. I do
Speaker 3: expect you to know the population size of Iran. That'd
Speaker 3: be a pretty basic thing if you're going to vote
Speaker 3: yes to going to war. And the reality is is
Speaker 3: he can't answer that question because, like many people in
Speaker 3: Congress left and right, they vote according to how they
Speaker 3: are lobbied. So if it's Big Pharma, they're voting for
Speaker 3: everyone to have to take the COVID vaccine because I
Speaker 3: took X amount of dollars from Big Pharma, right, or
Speaker 3: I took X amount of dollars from this pharmaceutical company.
Speaker 3: If it's big war and you're dealing with the NonStop war.
Speaker 3: There's always been a threat in the Middle East, right,
Speaker 3: and we've lost all of those wars. Right. The Taliban
Speaker 3: has our weaponry. There were no weapons of mass destruction
Speaker 3: in Iraq. Generation nine to eleven has grown up. We
Speaker 3: are demanding that all of you be able to answer
Speaker 3: some basic questions and to explain why a threat which
Speaker 3: tulsy gabbered the Director of National Intelligence eight weeks ago
Speaker 3: sat down in a congressional hearing and testified that there
Speaker 3: was no nuclear threat eight weeks ago. Now suddenly, eight
Speaker 3: weeks later, there is one. Right when Israel decides that
Speaker 3: they want to bomb Aron. It's a nonsense. And I
Speaker 3: am tired of being gas lit by our politicians to
Speaker 3: pretend that we don't understand and can't perceive the threats.
Speaker 3: The threat Actually, frankly, it Israel because we go to
Speaker 3: war and it only benefits them.
Speaker 1: You know, you sound very, very disgusted. I'm wondering where
Speaker 1: the word I'm wondering where the word fear comes into play.
Speaker 1: I believe I've read or doing my research, I was
Speaker 1: told that you feel you need you needed security. Obviously,
Speaker 1: some of the things that you say are incredibly polarizing,
Speaker 1: particularly in this day and age right now, whether it
Speaker 1: should be or not. As for somebody else to conclude,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what they're saying. When you take
Speaker 1: that into consideration right now, as you look at your life,
Speaker 1: you just had it just it was on maternity leave,
Speaker 1: you got four kids, you're happily married, et cetera. How
Speaker 1: comfortable is life for canvae Owens right now or lack
Speaker 1: thereof there?
Speaker 2: I say.
Speaker 3: We I want to be honest. I have tremendous fear
Speaker 3: of God. And that's why you have to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: Right If you do Christ's kingship, and you truly are
Speaker 3: a Christian, then your number one fear is of God,
Speaker 3: because this is not it. This is we get eighty
Speaker 3: years in this life and then we're and then we're
Speaker 3: in the next. And so when you see these people
Speaker 3: who pretend to be Christians and they look at what
Speaker 3: Israel is doing, they look at the NonStop campaign of starvation.
Speaker 3: You can look at the videos of them bombing children,
Speaker 3: the children crying, shooting children as they try to run
Speaker 3: for food, and you pretend to declare Christ's kingship. And
Speaker 3: yet what you're actually fearful of is saying that that's
Speaker 3: wrong because you don't want to be canceled, because you
Speaker 3: don't want to lose your job, because you don't want
Speaker 3: people to call you an anti Semite. You know, I
Speaker 3: question your sincerity. It's what I would say, can't I
Speaker 3: don't sit in the seat of judgment. But what I
Speaker 3: say to people is you are going to one day
Speaker 3: meet your maker, so you better start doing the right thing,
Speaker 3: which is to tell the truth unapologetically. And I want,
Speaker 3: in terms of my family, I want my children to
Speaker 3: inherit that for me, you know, passionate, to be passionate
Speaker 3: for the truth, which is to be passionate for Christ.
Speaker 3: Right that that is what Christ is. Christ is the truth.
Speaker 3: You have to follow Christ at all times. And I've
Speaker 3: made my position very clear on this.
Speaker 1: Who are you saying is pretending to be Christian? Just
Speaker 1: for clarification, because you alluded.
Speaker 3: To all the argument that has been made by people.
Speaker 3: And Tucker Carlson just released further parts of this interview
Speaker 3: with Ted Cruz and he says, you know, why should
Speaker 3: we follow Israel? And he says, well, the Bible says
Speaker 3: that if I, you know, bless Israel, then I will
Speaker 3: be blessed. That's what Tucker. That is what Ted Cruz
Speaker 3: says to Tucker Carlson about why we should be following
Speaker 3: them into this war. And Tucker Carlson, who's a Christian,
Speaker 3: pushes back on that. He's like, well, let's get into
Speaker 3: the theology of this. You think that you are going
Speaker 3: to be blessed, And I'm filling in the blanks here,
Speaker 3: but essentially, what Ted Cruz is offering is that you
Speaker 3: will be blessed if you allow this nation, which was
Speaker 3: created in nineteen forty eight, that Genesis is referring to
Speaker 3: this modern nation of Israel, a right to bomb, starve, kill,
Speaker 3: take land whenever they want, blackmail our politicians, Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 3: a lot of questions about who shot JFK and why
Speaker 3: we couldn't get those spots. You're gonna be blessed if
Speaker 3: you keep supporting this. And that is the reality is
Speaker 3: that there was this incursion after the Schofield Bible. And
Speaker 3: this is what I really challenge people who believe this
Speaker 3: heresy to look into the history of a Scholfield Bible,
Speaker 3: look into who funded that Bible, to teach Christians how
Speaker 3: to view the nation of Israel. The Bible is not
Speaker 3: referring to the modern state of Israel and bb net
Speaker 3: and Yahoo. God is not calling upon you to support
Speaker 3: the slaughter of women and children perpetually and is going
Speaker 3: to award you with heaven because kids are crying and
Speaker 3: starving and dying in the Middle East. I mean, you
Speaker 3: do have to have If you don't have religious fervor
Speaker 3: or religious understanding, please just have a little bit of
Speaker 3: common sense. Okay. God does not support the NonStop murder
Speaker 3: of innocent lives. That's just like a Christianity.
Speaker 2: One on one back to you, do you have you
Speaker 2: heightened your security?
Speaker 1: I asked you that question because I heard I heard
Speaker 1: that you you've spoken about that.
Speaker 2: I'm just asking, I don't know, interested in it? Have you?
Speaker 3: Well, let's be let's be frank. I have not heightened
Speaker 3: my security to answer your question, and the reason for
Speaker 3: that is because I understand what kind of demons we're fighting,
Speaker 3: and I just have I put my faith in the Lord.
Speaker 3: You know, my protection is prayer, and I try to
Speaker 3: live my life very honestly and let people know what's
Speaker 3: going on in the background. Obviously, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you saw this, but while I was on attorney leave,
Speaker 3: the FBI called me there was a group chat with
Speaker 3: forty Jews in New Jersey plotting my nation. This really happened. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a man was arrested. And by the way, the irony
Speaker 3: of this is we are told because he was upset
Speaker 3: that I'm speaking against the state of Israel. We are
Speaker 3: told that in Iran we have to invade because they're
Speaker 3: religious fanatics. Right, Well, look what we're dealing with. People
Speaker 3: that believe that this state has the right God has
Speaker 3: blessed them with the right to murder and kill people.
Speaker 3: And we also have their supporters now trying to kill
Speaker 3: Candice Owens. That's a fact. You can go book this up, FBI.
Speaker 3: Candice Owens, the guy who's been arrested. And by the way,
Speaker 3: he pled guilty. This wasn't like, hey, he got caught
Speaker 3: up in some plot. He pled guilty to trying to
Speaker 3: murder Candace Owens. Yeah. I think that that really does
Speaker 3: say it all. We are in quite a paradox here.
Speaker 2: Hold that thought, Candace, Hold that thought.
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Speaker 1: I want to transition to MAGA because when we think
Speaker 1: about the MAGA, we thought about the MAGA right now.
Speaker 1: I watched you, or watched a video of you from
Speaker 1: years ago in your definition of MAGA, and you were saying,
Speaker 1: it's counter to what we're witnessing the day. So on
Speaker 1: one side, you might see a conservative commentator like a
Speaker 1: Mark Levin, you might see a Ted Cruise, you might
Speaker 1: see folks like that, and you look at Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and some of the things the president is doing in
Speaker 1: this day and age, and you juxtaposed that to a
Speaker 1: Steve Bannen, a Tucker Callson, even Marjorie Taylor Green, she
Speaker 1: spoke about this as well. You seem to be on
Speaker 1: that side. And just to make sure that I'm clear,
Speaker 1: but what I'm talking about this is a quote. There's
Speaker 1: a tweet from Marjorie Taylor Green on X Tucker Caulson.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite people. He fiercely loves his wife,
Speaker 1: children in our country. Since being fired by the neocon
Speaker 1: network Fox News, he has more.
Speaker 2: Popularity and viewers than ever before.
Speaker 1: He unapologetically believes the same things I do that if
Speaker 1: we don't fight for our country and our own people,
Speaker 1: then we will no longer have a country for our
Speaker 1: children and our grandchildren and foreign rewards slash intervention slash
Speaker 1: regime change, put America last. Kill innocent people are making
Speaker 1: us broken, will ultimately lead to our destruction. That's not kookie,
Speaker 1: That's what millions of Americans voted for. It's what we
Speaker 1: believe is America first. How do you feel about what
Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green tweeted there on X Do you completely
Speaker 1: agree with her?
Speaker 2: Is there anything that you disagree with?
Speaker 3: Well, let's be clear right now. The people applauding Donald
Speaker 3: Trump are Megan McCain, Ted Cruz, Ted Cruz ran against
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, and John McCain with his dying breath. It
Speaker 3: was an ever Trumper with his dying breath. And I
Speaker 3: remember Megan McCain standing at his funeral saying this country
Speaker 3: was always great, it never needed to be made made
Speaker 3: great again, to take a stab at Trump even as
Speaker 3: she was giving words for her father, which is remarkable. Right. So,
Speaker 3: if Trump's aligning himself with the people that didn't support him,
Speaker 3: and the people that did support him are saying what
Speaker 3: he's doing is wrong, that doesn't mean that Maga betrayed Trump.
Speaker 3: That means that Trump is betraying MAGA. Okay, Maga is
Speaker 3: a term make America great again? And it was because
Speaker 3: the America people felt like our country was in a
Speaker 3: steep decline while we were being told that we had
Speaker 3: to build up every other country with programs, we had
Speaker 3: to spread democracy in the Middle East. That's been a
Speaker 3: remarkable failure. And at the same time, our veterans are
Speaker 3: coming home and they're being treated like crap. We talked
Speaker 3: about the farmers, she talked about the ranchers. That was
Speaker 3: the vision that Donald Trump painted that made me get
Speaker 3: behind him. And I took a lot of bullets for that,
Speaker 3: a lot of bullets for that, especially as a black
Speaker 3: person is not allowed to vote Republican. And I don't
Speaker 3: regret voting for him in twenty twenty and voting for
Speaker 3: him and telling people to vote for him because I
Speaker 3: truly believe he was the better candidate. And I still
Speaker 3: don't regret voting for him against Kamala Harris because I
Speaker 3: still believe he was a better candidate. But this is
Speaker 3: a betrayal, plain and simple. There's no other way to
Speaker 3: say that. And I believe what's motivating that is he
Speaker 3: took one hundred million dollars from Miriam Madelson and these
Speaker 3: people you're talking about, Mark Levin, they are Israel first. Okay,
Speaker 3: Megan McCain, she is war machine first. How's that trust
Speaker 3: fund going to get topped up? What did John McCain do?
Speaker 3: These people are neocons because they support NonStop war because
Speaker 3: that is how they enrich themselves. And if that is
Speaker 3: what Trump is aligning with, if that's what he wants
Speaker 3: his legacy to be, you know, I came in fighting neocons,
Speaker 3: and now I've aligned with him, then that's on him.
Speaker 3: That really is. I can't tell him what to think
Speaker 3: or what to say, or who to support. I just
Speaker 3: won't support it.
Speaker 2: That's fair. But does that surprise you?
Speaker 1: Because listen, in fairness to you, like I said, I
Speaker 1: haven't spoken. I only spoke to Trump once since he's
Speaker 1: been president, and that's when I did the whole town
Speaker 1: hall thing on News Nation with Chris Clawlmore and.
Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly and those guys.
Speaker 1: Prior to that, I'd never spoken to Trump since twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: But before he ran for president, people.
Speaker 1: In the sports community knew Donald Trump very very well.
Speaker 1: We used to go to his fights and is you know,
Speaker 1: the casinos and the hotels and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: We used to see him at basketball games.
Speaker 1: Talked to him all the time, and that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: we knew was what folks, maybe not you specifically, I
Speaker 1: don't recall this, but most folks classified the mass candas
Speaker 1: he was a deal maker, you know what, whatever way,
Speaker 1: whatever it took to get what he wanted, he was
Speaker 1: cool with it.
Speaker 2: And so for me, this is.
Speaker 1: Not a surprise when you talk about him Verren left
Speaker 1: in terms of varying wright actually when it comes to
Speaker 1: some of the things that he's elected to do. But
Speaker 1: most people with MAGA seem surprised, and they do feel
Speaker 1: like they are words like betrayal.
Speaker 2: To me, it's more the same. It's who he is.
Speaker 1: He's going to lean towards getting what he wants, and
Speaker 1: it's just that simple.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a fair assessment. I would say, why we're surprised,
Speaker 3: it's because we had him in office for four years
Speaker 3: and he wasn't a warmonger, he wasn't aligned with the neocons.
Speaker 3: He was fighting them tooth and nail the first four
Speaker 3: years that he was in office, and it seemed to
Speaker 3: us that and I think anybody would agree the country
Speaker 3: was getting better. I mean that I think that's why
Speaker 3: he increased his margins in voting. If we look at
Speaker 3: the demographics, like you know, more black men, more black
Speaker 3: women voted for him this second time around when he
Speaker 3: got into office, because the rhetoric fell on deaf ears
Speaker 3: when people were like, oh, he's going to do this,
Speaker 3: He's going to bring us into war, we go. He
Speaker 3: didn't do that for the first four years. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it has been a shift in how he behaved in
Speaker 3: the first four years of office. But to put two
Speaker 3: and two together, big money wasn't behind him the first time, right,
Speaker 3: that was the whole thing. Nobody wanted him. It was
Speaker 3: a never Trump movement that was led by the McCain type.
Speaker 3: He can't get into office, and so did he buck
Speaker 3: to them suddenly when he took that chet from Mariam
Speaker 3: Adelson and then change his motivations. Perhaps we're having to
Speaker 3: do some internal soul searching for those of us who
Speaker 3: have voted for him second and third time to wonder
Speaker 3: what is the sea change? But I think you have
Speaker 3: to admit that there has been one. He wasn't putting
Speaker 3: us into wars from twenty twenty twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Are you fearful at all that the Trump presidency is
Speaker 1: in him as in terms of him being the fourth
Speaker 1: seth president of United States, that it could end up
Speaker 1: being worse than anything you ever imagined if Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: had won the election.
Speaker 2: Is that possible?
Speaker 3: No. I think Kamala Harris it was going to be
Speaker 3: similar to Joe Biden. The advisors and people that were
Speaker 3: around her were going to be running the show. We
Speaker 3: can disagree on this, but I've never thought that she
Speaker 3: had the cognitive capabilities to be running the office. If
Speaker 3: you just look at her record and how she really
Speaker 3: got into office. And I'm seeking about her Californian record.
Speaker 3: But with Trump, I do I have a fear of
Speaker 3: World War three? Yeah, that's why we're speaking up and
Speaker 3: saying this is unacceptable. Right, That's why we are saying
Speaker 3: what you are doing is wrong and letting him know
Speaker 3: that we feel betrayed. We went along with it and
Speaker 3: said this is fine, we just trust the process. Then
Speaker 3: I would probably be more fearful. But I think it's
Speaker 3: becoming clear that the basis fractured, and hopefully he'll respond
Speaker 3: to that.
Speaker 2: Kennice, where do you go from here?
Speaker 1: If he doesn't respond or he doesn't respond favorably to
Speaker 1: the kind of things that you are asserting and stating,
Speaker 1: where do you go because we know how you feel
Speaker 1: about the Democratic Party, okay, and now we're hearing how
Speaker 1: you feel about this betrayal that you think that he
Speaker 1: has exercised since he's become president.
Speaker 2: Again, where do you go from here?
Speaker 1: If that doesn't change as it pertains to him.
Speaker 3: Well, I think, no matter what, I'm always going to
Speaker 3: support a candidate that I believe is telling the truth
Speaker 3: or that is going to do the most good for America.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, my day is not
Speaker 3: motive by politicians. I don't have faith in politicians, right,
Speaker 3: I have faith in Jesus Christ, and so I'm not
Speaker 3: this is not going to throw and I'm not going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm going to become a Democrat tomorrow or
Speaker 3: I'm going to become a I'm no longer going to
Speaker 3: vote for Republicans anymore. I think that if anything, if
Speaker 3: he really truly continues to follow this and does what
Speaker 3: Bibet and Yahoo wants, then it's going to bring both
Speaker 3: sides close together because we're going to recognize that everything
Speaker 3: is about keeping us warm from another while the same
Speaker 3: people at the top are benefiting the oligarchs, the war machine,
Speaker 3: and so I don't have plans to leave the Republican Party.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I don't regret voting for him. I
Speaker 3: regret what he's doing right now. And until I see
Speaker 3: who the candidates are, I won't be able in the future.
Speaker 3: I won't be able to remark on where I'm going
Speaker 3: to go because I'm always going to follow what I
Speaker 3: believe to be right.
Speaker 1: Does any candidates stand out there in your mind? I mean,
Speaker 1: when I think about it, they've been talking about me
Speaker 1: as a presidential candidate.
Speaker 2: Candads get that out their head. I'm not qualified, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm learning stuff from you and everybody else.
Speaker 2: I don't know any better. I don't know any better.
Speaker 2: And Devin, I'm not interested.
Speaker 1: But I will tell tell you I am interested in
Speaker 1: highlighting those who deserve to be highlighted from both sides
Speaker 1: of the isle to make sure we can do what
Speaker 1: we can to get this country steered in the right
Speaker 1: direction and see some figurative light at the end of
Speaker 1: the tunnel. Per se, Is anybody that's standing out in
Speaker 1: your mind that we should pay close attention to moving forward?
Speaker 3: Thomas Massey of Kentucky. He has been the most consistent
Speaker 3: America first person. He has earned the ire of Trump
Speaker 3: and the ire of APAC because he does not accept
Speaker 3: their money, and he votes against every war, and he
Speaker 3: will not send a single dollar overseas. He votes against
Speaker 3: every measure to send money overseas until the American people
Speaker 3: are taking Hara first. And so yeah, he is the
Speaker 3: person that I peer pressure the most to run for president,
Speaker 3: and I would get behind him, and I feel that
Speaker 3: he would never betray the American people because you can
Speaker 3: look at his voting record and see where he stands
Speaker 3: on the issues.
Speaker 1: Damn, kid, this only one does. How I asked you, you
Speaker 1: got some names, you gave me one. I'm going like that.
Speaker 1: That's a bad state of affairs. As much as you
Speaker 1: know about politics, as much as you follow this stuff.
Speaker 1: If I ask you an open ended question like that
Speaker 1: and you only give me one name, I got a
Speaker 1: reason to be really really nervous candas, because that means
Speaker 1: you don't believe in any of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when it comes to Israel, it's crazy
Speaker 3: to see how they vote. It's a nonsense Ukraine as well,
Speaker 3: the way that they've just been sending our money into
Speaker 3: an effective laundry mat None of this is okay, and
Speaker 3: the American people should be upset that we've been promised, Oh,
Speaker 3: we're going to stop this. We're not going to do this,
Speaker 3: And it's always the next emotional conditioning of why we
Speaker 3: have to send money overseas while the American people continue
Speaker 3: to suffer and our cities are in the state of decline.
Speaker 3: So no, I'm not impressed with politicians on the left
Speaker 3: or the right at the moment. At varying degrees. Some
Speaker 3: are they portray us more than others. But there's no
Speaker 3: one that I find to be impressive right now. And
Speaker 3: maybe there's some people that I'm missing, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: I'm sure I am that are outside that sit outside
Speaker 3: of DC. But in terms of people that are in DC,
Speaker 3: Thomas Nassey is the first thing that mind.
Speaker 2: I think, Listen, it's not to me. I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem with America. First.
Speaker 1: I do have a problem with America only because I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a nationalist to the point that
Speaker 1: I forget the global perspective, because obviously we do business
Speaker 1: across the world. Where I think about Israel, I'm saying
Speaker 1: to myself that's supposed to be the lone democracy in
Speaker 1: the Middle East.
Speaker 2: You're looking at Ukraine.
Speaker 1: Okay, if you don't support them, then Russia gets more empowered.
Speaker 1: I get a bit concerned about that. Again, I don't
Speaker 1: know as much as people like yourself, but those are
Speaker 1: the kind of things from a distant perspective, I look
Speaker 1: at it and I say, Okay, I don't want to
Speaker 1: just be pouring money all over the place. But in
Speaker 1: the same breath, if these other nations need our assistance
Speaker 1: and their allies of ours, I'm not opposed to that necessarily.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in having a global impact, having our
Speaker 1: footprints around the world globally to make sure that the
Speaker 1: world is a better place or a safer place to
Speaker 1: some degree?
Speaker 2: Do you believe in us playing that kind of role?
Speaker 3: First and foremost, I do not support you. Do not
Speaker 3: support Zelenski. I think he's a modern day Bolshevik who's
Speaker 3: mass sending Christians to slaughter in an unwinnable war. He's
Speaker 3: just mass murdering Christians. And so if you're telling me,
Speaker 3: at least you know Putin is defending Christians at this
Speaker 3: single moment. And I don't pick Putin over Ukraine, but
Speaker 3: I know that Ukraine is more corrupt because we conducted
Speaker 3: a color revolution and we installed someone in Ukraine back
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen. John McCain was behind that. And this
Speaker 3: is what we do all over the world, these fake
Speaker 3: protests and then we overthrow a duly elected leader, and
Speaker 3: that's what we did in Ukraine. Ukraine is a corrupt
Speaker 3: country and it's a laundry mat of America. Israel is
Speaker 3: not a democracy by any stretch of the imagination. You
Speaker 3: cannot say it is a democracy and then listen to
Speaker 3: their absolute bs excuses as to why Gaza is treated
Speaker 3: in the way that it is and why Gaza doesn't
Speaker 3: have any voting rights. You know, Oh, well they when
Speaker 3: we gave them voting rights, Why are you giving them
Speaker 3: anything If you're sitting here saying that at that moment,
Speaker 3: you accepted that they could run their own They could
Speaker 3: run what they wanted to in Gaza at that time.
Speaker 3: But you have the power to turn off the lights,
Speaker 3: shut off the electricity, to shut off the water. This
Speaker 3: isn'n apartheid state. This is what Gaza is. And I'm
Speaker 3: glad you're showing images. They have been treating these people
Speaker 3: basically just above the poverty line not allowing too much
Speaker 3: food into Gaza for a very long time, and Norman
Speaker 3: Finkelstein was the person who woke me up to really
Speaker 3: how Gaza is run. It's a partheip state. They don't
Speaker 3: have voting rights, and no one should support it and
Speaker 3: keep allowing people to call it a democracy. It it's
Speaker 3: absolutely foolish. And again that's because they keep us ignorant
Speaker 3: in America with ridiculous biblical arguments that are actually heretical
Speaker 3: and it's not what the Bible is expressing at all.
Speaker 3: But all of that aside, ask going back to your question, Yes,
Speaker 3: I am America first. I am not necessarily America only,
Speaker 3: but I am only going to be America first until
Speaker 3: we fix our issues. And that is again common sense. Right,
Speaker 3: you have a household, if you've got to feed your kids.
Speaker 3: If I said, hey, Steven, actually don't feed your kids,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to need you to feed the neighbor's kids,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to feed my kids and people
Speaker 3: are that you don't even know out in Utah first
Speaker 3: while your kids are starving, you would go that makes
Speaker 3: no sense. Of course, I'm going to make sure my
Speaker 3: kids are fed first. These this is America. Let's make
Speaker 3: sure that our people are taking care of first, that
Speaker 3: our people are able to live well, to have jobs,
Speaker 3: and to feed their families. Uh, before we go around
Speaker 3: trying to fix the world's problems. I mean, we send
Speaker 3: dollars for ridiculous things to establish you know, trans rights
Speaker 3: in Pakistan, Like, what are we doing? That's just that's
Speaker 3: a laundry mat that's the money is obviously not going there,
Speaker 3: it's being stolen from the American people.
Speaker 1: But what about the issuest is going on right here
Speaker 1: in this country when we're talking about the immigration issue
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and how you've got you know, the
Speaker 1: president sending four thousand members of the National Guard, seven
Speaker 1: hundred marines to the city of Los Angeles. Obviously it
Speaker 1: sparked the protest throughout this nation. No King's protests, because
Speaker 1: you know, the left was going to be diametrically.
Speaker 2: Opposed to his position.
Speaker 1: It's not just stuff going on abroad, it is stuff
Speaker 1: going on right here in the streets of America. What
Speaker 1: do you say about that, because, like you said, fixing
Speaker 1: our own house obviously should be a priority in your eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you there, but what do you
Speaker 1: have to say about that what's been going on in.
Speaker 3: La Obviously, it is the job of the federal government
Speaker 3: when you have an incursion, as we did during during
Speaker 3: Biden's administration, of millions of people coming across the border,
Speaker 3: to get those people out of the country. Who does
Speaker 3: that hurt It hurts us, obviously, when all of these
Speaker 3: people are unaccounted for in our country and playing a
Speaker 3: part in the economy while they're not paying taxes. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You got to go home. There was a legal way
Speaker 3: to get into this country. I know because I married
Speaker 3: an immigrant and it took us seven years, okay seven
Speaker 3: years for my husband to go through the process to
Speaker 3: become a legal American. So I am especially insulted when
Speaker 3: these people pretend that there's just no way to do this.
Speaker 3: It's a long process, it's a hard process. But you
Speaker 3: can do that, and you're not going to tell me
Speaker 3: that all of these people need to stay in the
Speaker 3: country that they've been in for less than four years,
Speaker 3: especially the newcomers under like very open border policy. Americans
Speaker 3: suffer when people are in this country unaccounted for. Sorry, adios, amigoes,
Speaker 3: you got to go home. I don't care at all.
Speaker 3: You've got to follow the rules. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: feel bad for you because you broke the law and
Speaker 3: got away with it while there was a different president.
Speaker 3: And to the extent that you're going to have then
Speaker 3: individual states saying oh no, we're going to allow people
Speaker 3: to break the law. And yet everyone in the entire Tennessee,
Speaker 3: whether you're in Texas tency, we all have to pay
Speaker 3: for it. That's ridiculous. That's absolutely we are going to
Speaker 3: all have to pay for it. Why should I have
Speaker 3: to go to work to pay for people that broke
Speaker 3: into this country? So I don't understand it. But going
Speaker 3: back to your question, of course this should be addressed first. Right,
Speaker 3: these are uprising that are taking place in America. These
Speaker 3: are issues in the bates that need to be had
Speaker 3: and one in America. And that is another reason why
Speaker 3: we should not be having discussions about what Israel is doing.
Speaker 3: They're always doing the same thing. They're bombing innocent people
Speaker 3: and claiming that they have a right to do it.
Speaker 1: Please don't tell me your feelings about what you just
Speaker 1: discribed going on in LA in terms of the immigration issue.
Speaker 2: You don't feel that way about the children, do you? Children.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter if it's to use the
Speaker 3: to say that the argument is that a child is
Speaker 3: allowed to break the law. Let me tell you why
Speaker 3: that's really wrong. They say, this is like the separation argument.
Speaker 3: You're going to separate them from their parents. No, first off,
Speaker 3: everyone should go home together. You should take your child,
Speaker 3: and you should go back to Mexico. The second thing
Speaker 3: I want to say about how ridiculous sad is is
Speaker 3: we would never have the argument that if let's use
Speaker 3: an example of a black man, a black man commits
Speaker 3: a crime in America. You know, let's let's say he
Speaker 3: shot someone and now he's got to go to prison.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't say, please tell me that you've considered judge that,
Speaker 3: yeah he shot someone, Yeah he broke the law, but
Speaker 3: he has a child, so please don't imprison him. Please
Speaker 3: allow him to be released. Back on to the treat No, no, no,
Speaker 3: you break the law, whether you're black, white, Hispanic, comfort
Speaker 3: in other country, there has to be a consequence for that.
Speaker 3: And we understand on a molecular level, of course, you're
Speaker 3: going to be separated from your child and go to
Speaker 3: prison if you break the law. It's the exact same
Speaker 3: thing here. Your children and you you should not be separated.
Speaker 3: Should all have to go home when your parent breaks
Speaker 3: the law. Unfortunately, the children have to suffer the consequences
Speaker 3: of that. Sometimes daddy has to go to jail. Sometimes
Speaker 3: daddy has to go back to Mexico.
Speaker 1: You're very, very popular. You don't need my help in
Speaker 1: being even more popular. But you're gonna get it anyway,
Speaker 1: because anybody that I bring on from now on that
Speaker 1: has an opposition to anything you said, I'm gonna play
Speaker 1: your clips, Candas, I'm gonna play your clips.
Speaker 2: For them to see.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, hey, did you see what she said?
Speaker 1: What's your responses? I'm just letting you know in advance.
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know an advance. I'm gonna be like, look,
Speaker 1: did you hear what she said? Just so you know,
Speaker 1: because I want you to know this. Folks out there
Speaker 1: to think like this, They feel this way, and they're
Speaker 1: making very valid points and just want y'all to know that.
Speaker 1: But listen, before I let you get on out of here,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate your time, I know, I gotta
Speaker 1: let you go. I had to get back to Tucker
Speaker 1: Casta because of the war Room podcast. He had told
Speaker 1: ho Steve bann In this about his former employee of
Speaker 1: Fox News.
Speaker 2: Check this out, Candace.
Speaker 4: That's not by popular acclaim. That's not like their viewer
Speaker 4: surveys like we need a lot, Mark Levin unless Jesse
Speaker 4: Water's more Mark Levin. What they're doing is what they
Speaker 4: always do, which is just turning up the propaganda hos
Speaker 4: to full blast and just trying to, you know, knock
Speaker 4: elderly Fox viewers off their feet and make them This is.
Speaker 1: This is where the here's my problem with Tucker costs
Speaker 1: In on this one canvas. I heard none of that
Speaker 1: when he was at Fox News.
Speaker 2: None of it. None of it. Now I'm hearing this
Speaker 2: from him. Now That's my only issue.
Speaker 3: You what you ask about, You weren't watching Tucker before
Speaker 3: he got fired. There's a reason he got fired. Tucker
Speaker 3: was standing up to the war machine. He was standing
Speaker 3: up to Ukraine. That is the literal reason why Fox
Speaker 3: News got rid of Tucker. He was anti war and
Speaker 3: he has, by the way, admitted and we are all
Speaker 3: subject to changing our opinions in the past. When he
Speaker 3: was on CNN, actually I think he was very pro
Speaker 3: I rock war and how wrong he was on the
Speaker 3: Iraq war and he believed the weapons of mass destruction
Speaker 3: was that provided a turning point for him to be
Speaker 3: anti war when heiz is that actually this is a machine.
Speaker 3: And so while he was at Fox News, he's covered
Speaker 3: a ton of things, but when it came down to
Speaker 3: a new war, Tucker was bringing in people online to
Speaker 3: talk about why we absolutely should not be going to
Speaker 3: war with Ukraine, and it became problematic for the execs
Speaker 3: because just what he's saying, you know, they appealed to
Speaker 3: a market of people who believe that there's a threat
Speaker 3: around the corner. Elderly people who need to believe that
Speaker 3: they're going to be nukes are going to be dropped
Speaker 3: on them because they grew up in a generation where
Speaker 3: there was a nuclear threat with Cuba, and Tucker Carlson
Speaker 3: was not serving them.
Speaker 2: So he had to go last question to you and
Speaker 2: again thank you for your time. I know you got
Speaker 2: to go. I got to ask you this question. I
Speaker 2: was watching a video of you.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was from weeks ago or so,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember the date, but you was talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, watching what you say.
Speaker 2: Because you're going to be banned but you don't care.
Speaker 2: This is how it is.
Speaker 1: You absolutely don't mind, et cetera, because you're going to
Speaker 1: keep on going.
Speaker 2: What are your.
Speaker 1: Expectation for you What are your expectations for those who
Speaker 1: are as outspoken as you on these very very sensitive
Speaker 1: issues moving forward? Considering the landscape that we're living in,
Speaker 1: YouTube shows, podcasting, etc. Linear television in the fourth of State,
Speaker 1: and the politics that invaded from time to time are
Speaker 1: ever present, we all know this. What are your expectations
Speaker 1: for yourself moving forward? What are you looking forward to?
Speaker 1: What do you fear, if anything at all?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I think last year was really kind of the test
Speaker 3: for me where I chose truth and I was severely
Speaker 3: caricatured and attacked in the media, you know, lost my job.
Speaker 3: And on the other side of that for sticking to truth,
Speaker 3: the reward has been Actually, my platform has gotten even
Speaker 3: bigger and more people are listening to me than ever before.
Speaker 3: And so I hope what people learn from that is
Speaker 3: while telling the truth is hard because lies spread quicker,
Speaker 3: a lie is quicker. It's the race of the tortoise
Speaker 3: and the hair. At the end of the day, and
Speaker 3: the truth gets around to it. It always wins. It's
Speaker 3: more powerful because you only have to hear the truth
Speaker 3: wants to know that it's true, whereas lies have to
Speaker 3: be told repeatedly to try to convince you the other way.
Speaker 3: And so I'm gonna keep telling the truth and see
Speaker 3: where the chips land, because I know where they're gonna land.
Speaker 3: It's going to land inevitably on the side of justice
Speaker 3: and reality and truth. So that's where I'll be ken this.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. You know that. I love having you
Speaker 2: on the show. I love listening to you. Some of
Speaker 2: the stuff is scary as hell. Can this ain't gonna
Speaker 2: lie to you? Now? You know, as you.
Speaker 1: Edify yourself and you learn more and more and you
Speaker 1: hear your truth is actually the truth, and a lot
Speaker 1: of circumstances, Okay, at the end of the day, it
Speaker 1: still gets a bit scary. But like you said, it
Speaker 1: calls for bravery from time to time, There's no question
Speaker 1: about that, and all of us need to stand up
Speaker 1: and have it. So I'm certainly not going to engage
Speaker 1: in condination like a lot of people and me, I'm
Speaker 1: an independent, but I've always been appalled at the black
Speaker 1: community in terms of how we've acted towards black conservatives.
Speaker 2: My attitude is hear what.
Speaker 1: Folks has to say, decipher what's true and what's false,
Speaker 1: and attack them based on that as opposed to think
Speaker 1: and they're supposed to think a certain way.
Speaker 2: And if they don't, how dare you.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that you're contrariy in that regard,
Speaker 1: that you stand up, that you're fearless in that regard,
Speaker 1: and I really really appreciate it. I don't always agree
Speaker 1: with you, girl, I really don't, but I do appreciate
Speaker 1: where you're coming from, and I appreciate you edifying a
Speaker 1: lot of folks about what we need to be edified about.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, and I'm looking forward to having
Speaker 1: you on the show in the future. And I must
Speaker 1: confess I am waiting for and invite myself. I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten that from Candace on.
Speaker 2: I haven't got it.
Speaker 3: You're always welcome you come down Tennessee. I have you
Speaker 3: on the pod.
Speaker 2: Will be so fun. That's right, Nashville, Nashville. Is that
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 3: Nashville?
Speaker 2: All right? All right, I'll take you up on that.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: You take care right, Thank you for having me my
Speaker 1: thanks to Candide ow Is you can watch your show
Speaker 1: Candice on YouTube over four plus million followers. By the way,
Speaker 1: she ain't lying about that.
Speaker 2: It's over two million last year, it's over four million. Now.
Speaker 1: She's doing a thing. People are listening, making no mistake
Speaker 1: about that. Coming up, I'll share my thoughts on that
Speaker 1: conversation you just heard with yours truly and the one
Speaker 1: of the only Candace Owens.
Speaker 2: Stick around more to stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith's show, or me specifically to close out the show
Speaker 1: in a minute, Welcome back to the stephen A.
Speaker 2: Smith Show.
Speaker 1: My closing thoughts on this conversation that I just had
Speaker 1: with the one of the only Candace Owns is very
Speaker 1: very simple.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop with her.
Speaker 1: She said a lot of things, obviously, things that some
Speaker 1: would deem incendiary, particularly if you're a member of the
Speaker 1: Jewish community and you're support of what Prime Minister Benjamin
Speaker 1: that Yahoo is doing as it pertains to Israel and
Speaker 1: it's situation with Iran. Not to mention other things that
Speaker 1: she did not you know, she didn't avoid what happening
Speaker 1: in Gaza, how folks are being displaced, how folks are
Speaker 1: being killed, etc. You threw out ther you heard me
Speaker 1: throw out, how you know what we saw what happened
Speaker 1: October seventh. We saw people kidnapped, killed, there's still hostages
Speaker 1: held by her mass.
Speaker 2: We saw all of that. But you heard her response
Speaker 2: on this particular show.
Speaker 1: It's apropos from the standpoint that she has a lot
Speaker 1: to say. It's consistent with what she said on her
Speaker 1: own platform and various others on numerous occasions spanning the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But we're not going to stop
Speaker 1: there for the purposes of this show. That's one opinion,
Speaker 1: that's hers. We'll have opposite points of view, opposite opinions.
Speaker 1: We're not here to support or denigrate anybody. When I'm
Speaker 1: sitting down and I'm interviewing somebody, I'm listening to what
Speaker 1: they have to say, and I'm putting it out there
Speaker 1: for the people to hear their.
Speaker 2: True, authentic thoughts.
Speaker 1: And I think it was important in this particular instance
Speaker 1: because she's so vehemently speaking against Prime Minister Benjamin at
Speaker 1: Yahoo in Israel at this particular moment in time. Whether
Speaker 1: it's Mark Levin or somebody else who's considered a warhawk
Speaker 1: that is vehemently and adamantly pro Israel, they'll be on
Speaker 1: this show too. We'll have Democrats, will have Republicans, We'll
Speaker 1: have folks that support Ukraine, will have people that me
Speaker 1: might be against funding Ukraine.
Speaker 2: The list goes on and on. That's what we do here,
Speaker 2: and the Steven especially on.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, come first week in September, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have my own show on a potish channel on Sirius
Speaker 1: XM once a week. So these kind of issues are
Speaker 1: the kind of issues we'll discuss and get into there
Speaker 1: as well. It's not gonna interfere with my sports show,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be five days a week on Mad
Speaker 1: Dog Sports Radio from one to three pm Eastern Standard
Speaker 1: time every weekday, re airing at six to eight pm
Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time. That show on Potus will be separate,
Speaker 1: but it's just going to show you I'm not running
Speaker 1: from anything or any issues, and I'm certainly not going
Speaker 1: to run from talking to anybody.
Speaker 2: We want to hear what people have to say.
Speaker 1: Then we want to research and edify our minds and
Speaker 1: our thoughts to make sure that what they're saying is
Speaker 1: accurate or inaccurate, and from there we propel forward trying
Speaker 1: to enlighten folks along with ourselves and doing what we
Speaker 1: can to contribute to making this country in this world
Speaker 1: a much much better place. So I know that some
Speaker 1: of you out there may not have wanted to hear
Speaker 1: a damn thing that Candice Owers had to say, but
Speaker 1: four plus million people subscribe to listen to her every
Speaker 1: chance they get, and not everybody in America or this
Speaker 1: world for that matter, can say that what she says matters,
Speaker 1: and a lot more often than not, she seems to
Speaker 1: know what the hell she's talking about. It's very rare
Speaker 1: you hear somebody says she's clueless, she don't know what
Speaker 1: she's saying. You don't hear it about her. You want
Speaker 1: to refute what she has to say and defy her positions,
Speaker 1: you better know what the hell you're talking about, because
Speaker 1: she certainly does usually, if not always. That's why I
Speaker 1: had on the show, and that's why I can't wait
Speaker 1: to have folks with opposing views to.
Speaker 2: What she proclaimed on this show as well. Here in
Speaker 2: all sides, enlightens us, All.
Speaker 1: Makes me better, makes you better. Keep that in mind
Speaker 1: when you're thinking about the Steven A.
Speaker 2: Smith Show.
Speaker 1: You never know what I'm gonna hit you with. You
Speaker 1: never know where it's coming from, but I'm gonna always
Speaker 1: do my best to keep it as real as we
Speaker 1: possibly can keep it. That's what this show aspires to
Speaker 1: be about, and I hope today was a step toward
Speaker 1: doing that even more so, especially these steps in the
Speaker 1: future that might be antithetical to anything that came out
Speaker 1: of her mouth.
Speaker 2: We shall see, we shall see. That's it for this
Speaker 2: edition of The Stephen A. Smith Show.
Speaker 1: I hope y'all enjoyed it, the conversation with myself and
Speaker 1: canadae owens feel free to tune into The Steven Aate
Speaker 1: Smith Show at least three times a week over the
Speaker 1: digital airwas of YouTube. Okay, and until next time, I'll
Speaker 1: see you. Got an NBA Finals to cover here in Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: Peace of love, everybody, talk to you a couple of days.