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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 3: Listen diary John.

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Speaker 2: Anick, any Florian? Do you want to podcast?

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Speaker 3: Great?

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Speaker 2: Say, have some audio on your website that nobody goes to.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm gonna be back in the Mondays slot. Gonna

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Speaker 4: be back in the Monday slot. Monday, November eighteenth, twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: It's episode two twenty five of the Anakim Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I was supposed to be in Las Vegas today, so

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Speaker 4: primetime episode on the East coast, and something came up,

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Speaker 4: so that business trip was canceled. But it's good to

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Speaker 4: see a kid, It's good to see us sitting down

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Speaker 4: and not on top of a jiu jitsu podium for

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Speaker 4: a cha.

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Speaker 5: Look nice, man, you've been a busy man as of late. Dude,

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Speaker 5: it's been busy.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: We lost this John ex mm, a charity challenge that

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Speaker 4: maybe time permitting, we'll get into later in the show

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Speaker 4: here today, But that's very exciting, you know. I've been

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Speaker 4: looking for a charitable endeavor for a while and hopefully

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Speaker 4: this will be the one. And thanks everybody of course

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Speaker 4: who played the pilot and helped us test the game.

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Speaker 4: But in the nature of time, I want to talk

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Speaker 4: a little bit about STL Pollo look ahead at UFC

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Speaker 4: two forty five. A little bit might get your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on bare knuckle boxing, kid, because I'm curious what you

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Speaker 4: think about it. There's a lot of men I respect

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Speaker 4: who are doing it, but sometimes it's it's hard to

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Speaker 4: watch for me. And we'll close the show with some

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Speaker 4: stuff on Walt Harris's daughter r and Iyah, who unfortunately

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Speaker 4: is still out there and is missing. And I think

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Speaker 4: the more we can inject her name into the conversation

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Speaker 4: and talk about her, I think that's only gonna potentially

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Speaker 4: help things in Parker coming up here shortly, but I

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Speaker 4: want to talk about Charles Olvera and not Yam johovichin

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Speaker 4: Jackadaisoza just to lead the show, because I don't want

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Speaker 4: to bury the lead, and I think Charles Olivera is

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Speaker 4: the lead.

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Speaker 6: Kenny.

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Speaker 4: He made his UFC debut in twenty ten when he

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Speaker 4: was twenty years old. We have watched his entire UFC

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Speaker 4: body of work at this point, and it's a fringe

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame body of work. Now that the third

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Speaker 4: six consecutive wins here right, Sixteen UFC wins fifteen finishes

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Speaker 4: put him second all time, one of the most prolific finishers,

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Speaker 4: submission artists and just winners now in UFC history, and

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Speaker 4: he's still just thirty years old.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's great to see because he was one of

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Speaker 5: those guys that would look phenomenal one fight, then next

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Speaker 6: There was some inconsistency.

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Speaker 5: He really has strengthened a lot of the holes in

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Speaker 5: his game, doesn't have the same weaknesses.

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Speaker 6: He is coming back a better fighter.

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Speaker 5: It seems every single time he has improved a great deal.

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Speaker 5: And you know, he's always a guy that you have

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Speaker 5: to watch out. As far as his submission game, goes,

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Speaker 5: and he had some pretty striking on the outside when

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Speaker 5: he needed to. Now he's starting to get a pretty

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Speaker 5: So it's great to see him develop. It's great to

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Speaker 5: see him evolve as a martial artist. He's getting more

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Speaker 5: confident and you know, he's putting on some really great

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Speaker 4: Since the lost of Paul Feller in twenty seventeen, it's

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Speaker 4: been six straight wins to give him, as I mentioned,

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Speaker 4: sixteen overall in the UFC. And it's fun because every

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Speaker 5: I think so too, And listen, I'm sure he has

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Speaker 6: But is he going to have all that energy and strength?

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Speaker 6: That's the thing. It's one thing to make.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure he could wait, probably safer than he did

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Speaker 5: think would still be very different than what he's showing

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Speaker 5: us at one hundred and fifty five pounds. And you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's the kind of guy that can

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Speaker 6: It's the right weight class for him.

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Speaker 5: I think he's better off keeping this energy, continuing to

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Speaker 5: evolve as a martial artists. Having you know, a healthy

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Speaker 5: I think is essential, and I think he could.

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Speaker 6: He should stay right where he is.

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Speaker 4: And the fight before the fight on Thursday and Friday

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Speaker 4: is just nothing like that cut down to one hundred

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Speaker 4: Ian Parker and he loves this loot. Top of the show.

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Speaker 4: He got the video treatment over the weekend. In the

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Speaker 4: half episode Kenthal, Ian Parker is the captain of Team Parker.

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Speaker 4: He's feeling pretty good about himself here on a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 5: We need to keep his ego in check, though, because

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Speaker 5: I feel like this could be a whole different thing. Man,

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Speaker 5: he's got his own podcast. I mean, Ian Parker has

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Speaker 5: that capability.

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Speaker 7: Oh, you don't need to stop talking, Kenny in the

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Speaker 7: compliments to stop you. You know, if you're feeling good

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Speaker 7: about it, you know, I don't want to fix it

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Speaker 7: if it's not broken. But it's glad to be I'm

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Speaker 7: glad to be back, Kenny. It's very hard to still

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Speaker 7: in for you. Of course, I had a great time

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Speaker 7: doing it. So any time you feel like sleep it in, uh,

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Speaker 5: I just got I'm still in the lead. I'm still

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Speaker 5: I'm glad I'm still in the lead.

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Speaker 6: Here are.

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Speaker 7: Plenty of time. We got plenty of time, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, it is still early, although the shows are

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Speaker 4: ripping off the calendar right, a couple of dark weeks here,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, it's like, man, we got

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Speaker 6: That's the way we like it.

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Speaker 4: So Ian's been a great supporter of mine over the years,

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Speaker 4: and certainly has become a good friend and and helping

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Speaker 4: launt the pilot for this MMA charity challenge over the weekend. Ian,

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Speaker 4: I don't know about you. I saw none of the

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Speaker 4: main event at Hijink Sports Grill. I had entirely too

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Speaker 4: much tequila. I did have to go back and watch

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Speaker 6: Uh not great kid? Not great? Would you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? You know what? It was a it didn't really

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Speaker 7: heat up to the last couple of rounds. I guess

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Speaker 7: that seem an exaggerated. I tried to wave at you

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Speaker 7: out that Yan Blahovitch not just made event challenge with

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Speaker 7: You know what, I give credit to Jaqure. I don't

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Speaker 7: It seemed like a lot of jakra pressing against the cage,

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Speaker 7: very challenging. I was very surprised, however, that his chin

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Speaker 7: So you know, all that really showed to me is

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Speaker 7: I don't think Yan Blohovitch is ready for a title

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Speaker 7: a little bit. I think Jakaray does not have to retire.

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Speaker 7: He competed, he lost by a split. You know, those

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Speaker 7: So I'm happy once I won my bets. But for Jacquaray,

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Speaker 7: you know what, he didn't take a ton of damage.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think for Jockaray, I think he's trying

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Speaker 5: This one was a tough one for me.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: He looked definitely looked smaller, did not look as strong.

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Speaker 5: Even the shots he was landing. While Jean was respecting

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Speaker 6: Like you like Yan, So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Also in the light heavyweight division, Showgun Hua and Paul Craig.

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Speaker 6: Do I have that right?

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Speaker 7: No? Actually so in other sports when you do a teaser,

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Speaker 7: to bet Showgun at minus I think he was three

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Speaker 6: Know about the parlay situation.

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Speaker 4: But in soccer, right you get hose right, they give

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Speaker 5: I was so I was so close to picking that

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Speaker 5: Listen, I don't hate her as an underdog at all,

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Speaker 4: And obviously I'm not betting on MMA, but when I'm

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Speaker 7: Huh? You know what, when when you're gonna take the

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Speaker 7: You gotta love the underdog when it makes sense, right,

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Speaker 7: know Kenny mentioned something about the speed and athleticism and

434
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Speaker 7: the physicality of Nunya's but you got to think, out

435
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 7: of all those white type fights, she had to have

436
00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,639
Speaker 7: fought someone with the speed with the physicality factor. So

437
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,720
Speaker 7: with this fight more than likely staying on the feet,

438
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Speaker 7: I have no problem taking a shot with GDR at

439
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Speaker 7: those odds, at the plus four one hundred and changes

440
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Speaker 7: umber you talked about, that's not bad play at all.

441
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,040
Speaker 7: I actually it is one of my favorite underdogs in

442
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,800
Speaker 7: a while. And I love Amanda Nuniaz. I love what

443
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,080
Speaker 7: she represents the sport, what she's done, but there's always

444
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 7: someone waiting to take that belt and styles big fights,

445
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Speaker 7: and I think if this fight test stay on the feet,

446
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,400
Speaker 7: Jermaine de Randomy is very dangerous.

447
00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 6: Now.

448
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 4: I saw that opening plus four seventy five. I don't

449
00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 4: know where that was being offered and how many people

450
00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,960
Speaker 4: were able to hit that plus four seventy five, but

451
00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 4: certainly looks juicier than plus two forty does now, Ian,

452
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Speaker 4: I want to lead with you on the featherweight championship fight.

453
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,239
Speaker 4: So Max Holloway after the Dustin Pourier A war in

454
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 4: April back down to one hundred and forty five pounds,

455
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 4: and if social media is any indication, he appears to

456
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Speaker 4: be a man on a mission.

457
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 6: Here.

458
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Speaker 4: A lot of people wondered how long his future would

459
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Speaker 4: be at featherweight Ken Kenny, you know, I had a

460
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,760
Speaker 4: lot of questions about that, and he's certainly answered those

461
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 4: and then sum certainly in the Ortega fight, he gets

462
00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,560
Speaker 4: Alexander Volkonowski. Here he's minus one seventy vocal plus one

463
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Speaker 4: forty as he comes east to Vegas.

464
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Speaker 6: Is that right? Yeah? I think it's east. What do

465
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Speaker 6: you think he Max Holloway? I was there Volkanowski.

466
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Speaker 7: The only time that I bet against Max Holloway in

467
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Speaker 7: the last I think five years was I took Dustin

468
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 7: Pourier recently just because of the run Poier was on

469
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 7: the power, you know at fifty five. However, I just

470
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 7: don't really see Volkanowski doing what he's done to some

471
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 7: of these other fighters that fight against Chad Mendez. People

472
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 7: need to remember he was not winning that fight until

473
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 7: Chad out of nowhere, gassed out and then only took

474
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,280
Speaker 7: a few punches. Kind of a reminder of when he

475
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,280
Speaker 7: thought Connor McGregor he was dominating in the wrestling, got

476
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 7: tired and Connor landed that shot. Max Holloway is way

477
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,880
Speaker 7: better than Chad Mendez. You know, in this fight, He's

478
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Speaker 7: gonna have a huge reach. I mean, Max Holloway probably

479
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 7: knows how to use that as well as anybody. The

480
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 7: cardio will never stop, so Volkanowski is not going to

481
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 7: have a fighter. He was just going to give up

482
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 7: or gas out and him then go in for the kill.

483
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 7: You know, Max Hollway's done the five round dance at

484
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,400
Speaker 7: and now in two different divisions, He's fought way better competition.

485
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 7: I think Volkanowski is very much deserving of this title shot.

486
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 7: I think he was more deserving than Frankie, you know,

487
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 7: and nothing against Franky, he loved Frankie, but he deserves it. However,

488
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 7: I don't know if Max is very hard to take

489
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 7: down too. If Vulcanowski can grind out five rounds on

490
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 7: top of on top of Max Holloway, fine, I don't

491
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 7: see it happening. I think Max Holloway is going to

492
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 7: use that jab. He's going to keep the fight standing.

493
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Speaker 7: And I'm hoping that people keep betting on Vulkanowski because

494
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Speaker 7: if those odds keep going and going, I will load

495
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 7: it up on Holloway just the same way that people

496
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 7: thought Artago was gonna win as well.

497
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 6: Ken Fall.

498
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Speaker 4: I don't know that we talk enough about coaching in

499
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: mixed martial arts, like wh I'm betting on an NFL

500
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 4: football game. I think, all right, quarterback, head coach, kicker, right.

501
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 4: I think Eugene Barman and the folks at City Kickboxing,

502
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,679
Speaker 4: I think they understand how good Max Holloway is and

503
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: hopefully that's the case. What do you think these guys

504
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 4: at City Kickboxing and Volco were going to have for

505
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: Holloway here in a few weeks.

506
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Speaker 5: Well, the other thing is, you know, we forget, but

507
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 5: Australia is very much a muy Thai hotbed. They have

508
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 5: a lot of strikers over there that they can call

509
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 5: on for excellent sparring. Of course, you know, he has

510
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 5: a great relationship with israel artist Sonya out of Sania

511
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 5: has a great mind for the sport, great for the

512
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 5: striking game, so I'm sure he understands exactly what he

513
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 5: needs to do on the feet against someone like Max Holloway.

514
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Speaker 6: It is quite another thing, though, to go out there

515
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Speaker 6: and do that.

516
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Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing that Dustin Pourier at

517
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Speaker 5: one hundred and three five pounds he couldn't stop Max Holloway.

518
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 5: I don't think Alexander Volkanowski's gonna be able to do it.

519
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 5: And I think that's the only way you beat someone

520
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 5: like a Max Holloway. You're not gonna be able to

521
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Speaker 5: outpoint him. In my opinion, I don't see in Volkanovsky's

522
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 5: game anyway. I think you've got to stop someone like

523
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Speaker 5: Max Holloway. You're either gonna have to have an insane

524
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 5: amount of power or try to put him on his

525
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 5: back to really cause significant damage to get a fight stop.

526
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Speaker 6: And I just I just don't see it happening.

527
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,959
Speaker 5: And talk about, you know, taking the right fights at

528
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Speaker 5: the right time. Max Holloway fighting a guy like a

529
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,360
Speaker 5: Franki Edgar was excellent preparation in my opinion, for him

530
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 5: to take on a guy like a Bulkcan And I

531
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: think Volkanovski obviously is fresher in his career at this

532
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 5: point that say Frankie Edgar is but frank Edgar, you know,

533
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: is a pretty smart fighter and has seen it all

534
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 5: out there and just did not have an answer for

535
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: what Max Holloway had out there. Holloway moves really well.

536
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 5: He's gonna have a significant height and reach advantage against Volkanovski,

537
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 5: and I just see him tagging from the outside and

538
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 5: just giving Volkanovski fits round after round.

539
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: We got there for a second that Max fought Frankie

540
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 4: Edgar this summer there in Canada, all right. Main event

541
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Speaker 4: Ian Parker Kamora Usman Monus won seventy five Colby Covington

542
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Speaker 4: plus one forty five another fight that at least according

543
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 4: to the betting line has tightened up a little bit.

544
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 4: This fight just I just can't wait, man, I mean

545
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 4: I get anxious just talking about this thing. I've just

546
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 4: wanted to see this so long, and to see Colby

547
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: Covington in a true grudge match against one of these

548
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 4: guys that really wants to, you know, rip out his esophagus.

549
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: I mean, Ian, what do you think about this fight

550
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: and which way you lean in here?

551
00:23:59,359 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 6: About a month?

552
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 7: Well, I'm happy that Kobe Covington is now number one

553
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 7: on Usman's shit list camp fall. I don't know if

554
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 7: you ever heard this story, but when I was working

555
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 7: at the BB and T Center, I hooked for Shot

556
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 7: Evans up with tickets to Jay Z and he brought

557
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 7: a got another fighter with him and I went, Yo,

558
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 7: what up Marcus Brimmage. I'm a big fan, and it

559
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 7: was fucking borrow Usman. That was so embarrassing.

560
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 6: He's a little bigger than Marcus Brimit. It's yeah, yeah, no,

561
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,120
Speaker 6: what it was off?

562
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 7: I was ra Shot Evans. I think it was a

563
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 7: champ that I was like, oh shit, is Shot Evans.

564
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 7: I gotta get the tickets And I'm like, oh, oh dude,

565
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 7: your brimage no doubt, Like all the Open Fighters show,

566
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 7: I was bro what an amateur fucking Bushley move on

567
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 7: my part. But anyway, so this fight is really, you

568
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 7: know what, For me, it comes down to who impressed

569
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 7: me more in their last two fights. And it's so

570
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 7: hard because when you see someone like Kamara Usman right

571
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 7: what he did to Tyra Woodley, I think people forget

572
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 7: Woodley was so dominating and when he was the champ,

573
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 7: and no one really thought they were going to figure

574
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 7: out that piece of the puzzle. No one's gonna wrestle him.

575
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 7: The power was there. And then Uspan goes in and

576
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 7: he just dominates that fight, right. And then we get

577
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 7: Colby Covington coming in against a Robbie Waller, which you know,

578
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 7: Kenny and I both thought for Robbie there were methods

579
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 7: to the victory. And then he comes and puts on

580
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 7: this pace of what he set the record for the

581
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 7: most strikes or thrown in UFC history. I mean, the

582
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 7: pace that Colby put on was just so impressive. I mean,

583
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 7: to Kenny's point, and I remember this, This keeps going

584
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 7: back in my head. The one thing I know that

585
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 7: Kenny was bugged out by and I kind of was

586
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 7: bothered by two is that Colby had Robbie Lawler in

587
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 7: that rare naked show against the cage and it was

588
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 7: pretty close and he couldn't figure out how to get

589
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 7: it in. And in that situation, imagine if he would

590
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 7: have finished Robbie Waller. You know, in a situation like that,

591
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 7: if you don't take advantage, you get someone like Usman.

592
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 7: He's going to turn it around on you. Because Usmin's

593
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 7: another guy with the pace. I'm having a hard time

594
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 7: picking this fight right now. Kobe really impressed me against

595
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 7: Robbie Waller. If you're gonna ask me today, however, without

596
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 7: betting lines, I would go with Usman the champ. I

597
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 7: don't think Kolby's gonna be able to press the pace.

598
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 7: I don't think Cardio is gonna be an issu you

599
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 7: for Kamora Usman. I think he's a better boxer. I

600
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 7: think he has more power. I don't think he's gonna

601
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 7: be could started all about Kobe knocking him out like

602
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 7: even the slightest bit. And I don't think he's gonna

603
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 7: get taken down either. Robbie got taken out and will.

604
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 7: I don't think he will. I think he's gonna put

605
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 7: Kobe against the cage and grind this out. And I

606
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 7: don't think it's could be that exciting of a fight,

607
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 7: to be honest with you, but the grudge match is

608
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 7: so at the moment, I'm on team Usman.

609
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: When there's real heat and tension in a UFC championship setting,

610
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: I just as a sports fan, I can't think of

611
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 4: anything better. Kenn, you think we're destined for twenty five

612
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: minutes and uh or not? I mean, what do you

613
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 4: think we're going to see? Here, it's certainly possible.

614
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 5: You know, I don't share that same kind of confidence

615
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: in Kamara Uzman that Ian Parker does. I think that Uzma'

616
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 5: is a tremendous fighter, but I have a hard time

617
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 5: believing that that was the best Tying would be out

618
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: there on fight night. I just he didn't look right mentally,

619
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: He didn't look right physically to me, you know, coming

620
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: off that surgery. Just that was not what Tyron Woodley

621
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 5: truly offers in a championship fight. Not to take away

622
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 5: from Usman's performance, and it was phenomenal. I just think

623
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 5: he fought him at the right time and was able

624
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 5: to take advantage of that. That's Tyron Woodley's fault that

625
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 5: those are the kind of things that we do as

626
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 5: fighters with you know, timing that doesn't you know, always

627
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 5: come out right as coming off of surgery, and you

628
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: know he's been dealing with the lot. But I just

629
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 5: don't think that was the best time Woodley out there.

630
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 5: And if you asked me before that fight, before Colby's

631
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 5: fight against Robbie Lawler, who I think would win, I

632
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 5: would say tomorrow Usman very confidently.

633
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 6: Now I'm leaning towards Colby, crazy I think, you.

634
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 5: Know, I just think that the kind of pace that

635
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: he put on Robbie Lawler and me expecting him to

636
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 5: eventually get tired, and that just never took place. The

637
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 5: improvement in his striking was significant enough for me to

638
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 5: say that he has better striker striking that kamaraw Uzman.

639
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 5: The way that who's putting together the combinations, the way

640
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 5: that he looked way more technical.

641
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 6: Again, I haven't seen.

642
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 5: A performance like that as far as conditioning wise, in

643
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 5: a very long time. Habi will just straight out wrestle

644
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 5: you and put on a pace on the ground, but

645
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: I haven't seen a pace like that on the feet

646
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 5: and on the ground with the wrestling. I was super

647
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Speaker 5: impressed with Kobe Covington's performance, Hate him to love him.

648
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Speaker 5: That guy has improved as a martial artist, and I

649
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Speaker 5: just think a lot of times, a lot like when

650
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Speaker 5: we saw you know, Yan Bohovich and Josh Raciose of

651
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 5: this week, with two guys that come with the jiu

652
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Speaker 5: jitsu background, they tend to cancel each other out. It

653
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Speaker 5: happens with wrestlers as well. We've seen it time and

654
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Speaker 5: time again. If it stays on the feet, I give

655
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Speaker 5: the end. Kobe Covington, and I think we'll see a

656
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Speaker 5: lot of striking in the clinch, but I don't think

657
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Speaker 5: we'll see a lot of takedowns from either guys.

658
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Speaker 6: It was crazy walking.

659
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Speaker 7: Out if Kobe Covington wins, Oh my god, walking.

660
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Speaker 4: Out of that arena though, in Newark, New Jersey in

661
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Speaker 4: the afternoon that day, after Colby Covington had did that,

662
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 4: you felt like you saw this historically great offensive performance

663
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Speaker 4: and it was nice to sort of be validated that

664
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Speaker 4: in that opinion and being guys like you and d

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Speaker 4: C take to Twitter and just be like, dude, I haven't.

666
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Speaker 6: Seen output like that.

667
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Speaker 4: It's crazy, right, Like a lot of people were thinking, dude,

668
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 4: he's gotta be dirty. No, he just has a third

669
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Speaker 4: lung and he's really fucking tough series, you know, I mean, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: All right, a couple things before we let Ian Parker

671
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Speaker 4: fly and get back to bedtime. You know, one benefit

672
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: of this nighttime podcast, I gotta tell our listeners my

673
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 4: wife's putting three kids to bed right now, you know,

674
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Speaker 4: so I could probably get used to this.

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Speaker 6: Ian bare knuckle boxing.

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Speaker 4: So Joey Beltron, UFC veteran became the bare knuckle boxing

677
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Speaker 4: heavyweight champion over the weekend. I congratulated him on Instagram

678
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Speaker 4: and I just want to share this personally because he

679
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 4: wrote back and it really touched me. And I don't

680
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 4: do this to toot my own horn. If it sounds

681
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: that way, I apologize, But Joey wrote to me, I

682
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 4: remember talking to you and Brazil back in twenty thirteen

683
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: is probably right there with me. He says he was

684
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Speaker 4: so bummed that night that he lost to Fabio Maldonado

685
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 4: and was sure to be cut. You were so kind

686
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: to me and told me I had nothing to hang

687
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: my head down for. You told me to be proud

688
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: of the fact that I fought ten times in the

689
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Speaker 4: UFC and that I was a true warrior and I

690
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: was gonna be fine. And then he wrote, shit, I

691
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: guess you were right. So props to Joey Beltron, who

692
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Speaker 4: now has a gold belt at home. And it's incredible

693
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Speaker 4: to see some of these really good dudes succeeding in

694
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Speaker 4: this realm. All of that being said, flow a man

695
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Speaker 4: does it look damaging aesthetically and it's hard to watch

696
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Speaker 4: for me without any sort of protection on those knuckles.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what's your takeaway on bare knuckle boxing and

698
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Speaker 4: guys like Jason knighton Nardemlabov and Joey Beltron really entering

699
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Speaker 4: the fray and not just that, but fighting you know,

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Speaker 4: a couple times in a span of five or six months.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. Listen, combat sports is combat sports.

702
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Speaker 5: They're not easy on your body, They're not easy on

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Speaker 5: your brain. I think that for us seeing the bare

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Speaker 5: knuckle thing, it can be hard to watch.

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it. You know.

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Speaker 5: I think that you know, as far as damage and

707
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 5: what happens, it's all not great for you. But you

708
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: know the cuts, the damage that you're taking out there

709
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 5: more than the different in the concussive right, because like

710
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: a UFC gloved I'm feel good on your chin, I right,

711
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 5: And in some cases you think, well it protects your

712
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 5: hands so you could throw a little bit heavier.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, I really, I'm not a scientist.

714
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Speaker 5: I haven't evaluated the effects of you know, either of

715
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Speaker 5: what's worse. But for me watching a bare knuckle fight

716
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Speaker 5: with guys who had careers in mixed martial arts, it

717
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Speaker 5: is definitely hard for.

718
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Speaker 6: Me to watch.

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Speaker 5: I just don't like seeing guys that are perhaps past

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Speaker 5: their prime take that kind of damage and I don't know, man,

721
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Speaker 5: it is definitely harder to watch. It's not as technical

722
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Speaker 5: as a mixed martial arts fight can be right with

723
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Speaker 5: with just you know, they takes someone down and and

724
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 5: all those things, but you know, both are really tough

725
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Speaker 5: on the body, if we're being honest. I just think

726
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Speaker 5: that seeing a lot of these guys take the damage

727
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Speaker 5: on the feet with with a bare knuckle, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: it seems to have a It seems to have more

729
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Speaker 5: of an impact what I'm watching. I just I cringe

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Speaker 5: a little bit more when I watch it.

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Speaker 4: Ian Jason Knight, Mississippi mean God loved the guy. I

732
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Speaker 4: consider him a friend. He's got mouths to feed. But

733
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Speaker 4: you just wonder how many wars like this he can

734
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Speaker 4: take part in. What are your thoughts on this bare

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Speaker 4: knuckle fat I mean, Ian, you've got some you got

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Speaker 4: some experience. Why don't you enter the bare knuckle boxing

737
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Speaker 4: and frame maybe me and maybe me and you should box.

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Speaker 6: I know I'd be a prohibitive underdog. That'd be the

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Speaker 6: way I'd like it.

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Speaker 7: I can never punch you in the face and feel

741
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Speaker 7: good about it, but I will tell you, though, I

742
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 7: will tell you this character that journalist the Schmo put

743
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: out there to grapple against Arrol Hawani, and I fucking volunteered.

744
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 7: And because Hallwani probably that even made a layup on

745
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 7: his play school basketball hoop in his life. So I

746
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 7: told the Shmo, I will fucking step in for the

747
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 7: nose and I'll we'll do an MMA FI charity grappling.

748
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Speaker 7: So if you want to get that going viral Parker

749
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Speaker 7: versus Shmo, that's good. I could punch him in the face.

750
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Speaker 7: I cannot punch anyone on this show in the face,

751
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Speaker 7: at least happily. No way. But in regards to Jason Knight,

752
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 7: there was a video that popped up like three days

753
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Speaker 7: that went viral before his fight of him fighting two

754
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 7: guys at a bar in a bathroom stall and him

755
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 7: winning Jason Knight on Twitter. It went viral absolutely crazy,

756
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Speaker 7: you know, so pretty much, you know, in regards to this,

757
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Speaker 7: I think the Kenny's point, it is really tough too.

758
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: Obviously watch sometimes you know the way these guys are

759
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 7: just the beating I mean. But here's the problem though.

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Speaker 7: Number one, I hope it's not being associated with MMA,

761
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 7: because it took a long time for people to really

762
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 7: accept accept MMA as a mainstream sport like football, hockey,

763
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Speaker 7: et cetera, and bare knuckle boxing. Is not that the

764
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 7: problem is the reason why these guys are doing it,

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Speaker 7: And Kenny, I agree with you. It's hard watching these

766
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 7: guys past their prime or not making MMA. They're getting

767
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 7: paid a lot more than what they would be if

768
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 7: they were still in the UFC, you know, for example,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 6: Or another organization, yeah, time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, heck yeah, Hector one part sign and he's getting paid,

772
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 7: from what i've heard remember a lot of money to

773
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 7: do this. And there's a guy who was knocked out

774
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 7: a bunch of times in his UFC career. So it's

775
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 7: it's kind of you know, kind of crazy. You know,

776
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 7: it's hard for me to watch as well. But like

777
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 7: you said, John, these guys got mouths to feed, and

778
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 7: if this is all they know and they're getting paid

779
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 7: a lot to do it, who's gonna stop them? I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'll still watch it. It's hard, like with Big Foot Silva,

781
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 7: you know, that was really tough to watch. But yeah,

782
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 7: they're gonna keep doing it, I guess until someone until

783
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 7: something happens. I don't know.

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00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: It's tough though.

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Speaker 5: I'm curious, you know, as far as you know the paydays,

786
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: are they getting that amount of money because they have

787
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 5: a big bank roll or or is it or a

788
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 5: lot of people buy these pay per views so they

789
00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: have that money to do that?

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Speaker 6: Do you know the combination?

791
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, so it's a combination of both. Like back

792
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 7: in the day when Elite XC formed and a few

793
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 7: things on other outside organizations, think about what they did. They

794
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 7: were over paying guys to come over so they could

795
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 7: do this, and what happens is that either it's a

796
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 7: sink or swim mentality. You pay to get the best

797
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 7: talent you can. You overpay for it so they don't

798
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 7: go anywhere else, you know, and you hope that that works.

799
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 7: If it doesn't, you fold. If it does, you got

800
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 7: something here. I don't know how many people are truly

801
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 7: paying for the pay per views, but I can tell

802
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 7: you someone like a Hector Lombard is making easily probably.

803
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 7: I mean, I do know what he's making, so I

804
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 7: don't want to really give it away too much or

805
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 7: at least a good estimate, but he's making UFC main

806
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 7: card money to be in the bare knuck goll old

807
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 7: boxing fighting Chamage whoever it's called. So these guys are

808
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 7: getting paid, like Jason Knight and our tem both definitely

809
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 7: got paid way more than they were getting paid ever

810
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 7: in the UFC. So it's it's like, good for them,

811
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 7: they're getting that money, but shame on those guys for

812
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 7: like let it and then look what they're doing to

813
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 7: each other. You know, you would never know who won

814
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 7: by looking at each other the next day.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy, right all right, my man, good stuff, Thanks

816
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: again for all the support last week.

817
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 6: We will talk to you next Monday.

818
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: No predictions next Monday, so we'll see what's uh, what's cooking,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you in less than seven days,

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Speaker 4: my man.

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Speaker 6: Appreciate the time.

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Speaker 7: As always, you guys, guys, have a good one, all right.

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Speaker 4: Ian Parker with us every week here on the Aniconfloring Podcast.

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Speaker 4: forget that second. S all right, really, Longo is going

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Speaker 4: to join us here in a minute. Anthony Rumble Johnson

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Speaker 4: says he's going to be back in Junior July as

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Speaker 4: a heavyweight.

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Speaker 6: Ken floats.

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Speaker 4: Does he think speed will be a big advantage your

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Speaker 4: expectations for Rumble at heavyweight, kid, I mean, you don't

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Speaker 4: want to draw Curtis Blades out of the shoot necessarily

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Speaker 4: rumbles back on all in, Hey.

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Speaker 6: Listen, I think that he has an ability. You know.

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Speaker 5: Again, I don't know what his training regimen is looking

842
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 5: like these days. He was massive at one point. Someone

843
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 5: told me he was like two eighty three hundred pounds

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Speaker 5: something like that. You know, he's gonna have to cut

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Speaker 5: down at two hundred and sixty five pounds potentially. So anyways,

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00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 5: I hope he's training and getting back in shape. I

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Speaker 5: do think that probably fighting in the heavyweight division is

848
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: the right division for him. Again, it's not the strongest

849
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Speaker 5: division in the UFC, and I think he could really

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Speaker 5: make for some interesting matches and potentially win a belt

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Speaker 5: to the UFC. I truly believe that Anthony Rumbell Johnson,

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Speaker 5: all Right, busy day, Longo, wyman n and A.

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Speaker 2: Want, the Ray long Minute during John Annik and Kenny

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Speaker 4: New York City. I know the heat went out can

862
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 4: flow at the gym and Garden City today. I mean,

863
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: if you follow Longo Widening mma on soccial media, you

864
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: know that it's thirty nine degrees there and they got

865
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: no heat. Didn't stop Ray from training, incidentally, but Jim

866
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 4: is closed to the locals.

867
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 6: I guess today, right, you got to pay the bills. Man,

868
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 6: what would I say?

869
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: What's what's versus? We had a guy come in in

870
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 3: the carbon monoxide was leaking and I'm in there working

871
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: on like a complete idiot. My head hurts. I don't

872
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: know what the hell it was.

873
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: Oh man, we're.

874
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Getting everything squared away, so thank god for that. But yeah, no,

875
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: I'm actually home. We had to close the gym.

876
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: How about that? So we missed you last week scheduled

877
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 6: buy week for us.

878
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 4: I took my kids to Disney World, which felt like

879
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 4: I taped like nine podcasts in one day.

880
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 6: But it's good to hear you, man, I mean.

881
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: About twenty times with my kids growing up. It is

882
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: I hear you completely.

883
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's the most magical place in the world. Right,

884
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: it's really what it is, you know. But like, do

885
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 4: you do you miss doing the show?

886
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 6: You know?

887
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I know you missed those you have to

888
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: unfiltered paychecks when they don't call your number. But like

889
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 4: our little engine that could, like, do you miss doing

890
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 4: the show?

891
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 3: Miss it? I mean I was wondering what the hell

892
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 3: was going on. I set my whole day around that,

893
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: you kidding? And then when I felt off this morning,

894
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I thought you were doing that? Uh

895
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: what'd you start some m M A drafting or but

896
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: you had something on Instagram win a free ticket to something?

897
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: Well what are you doing?

898
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 6: Right? Yeah, it's a little charity challenge, but uh, you you.

899
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: Were leaving me and Kenny out to hang it, hang

900
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 3: it out to dry for your fantasy football camp.

901
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 6: We weren't invited. That's it, that's it.

902
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: You know, I thought I thought something was going on,

903
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: but I was gonna cool you. But uh, you know,

904
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: things are busy down at Lower MMA. A lot of

905
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 3: things happen.

906
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 6: Good.

907
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: I know you got a lot of things happening, and

908
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 4: we will get to those. But I should publicly apologize

909
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 4: because there are a lot of different people I have

910
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 4: to communicate with when we're taking the show off the

911
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: air for a week or and and I forgot to

912
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: reach out to you.

913
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 6: And I feel off.

914
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: But no, I'm usually well, I think Ray, you can

915
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: attest two hundred and twenty five shows. I'm usually pretty

916
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 4: good about communicating, but I I fuck forgot last.

917
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 6: Week, you know.

918
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: So I just, like I just said, I just sat

919
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: in the gym with my thumb up my ass for

920
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: a half hour.

921
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 4: You could always just send a text message like are

922
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 4: we live today, and then I would have felt awful

923
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 4: in that moment. But uh, I'm just in it right now.

924
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 4: But like, do I see him in the weeds? I

925
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: can't get a fucking word out today. I got three

926
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: children like five feet away from me, Like if Ken

927
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: Flow has more than two kids like he has, he's

928
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 4: not listening to me on the podcast. God, I'm just

929
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: so in it right now. Hey, Ray, did you happen?

930
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 4: So since we didn't talk to you see the fight

931
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 4: between Zabeat, Mago Metchurio and Calvin Cater that Moscow show

932
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago.

933
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: Yes they did.

934
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 4: So what are your thoughts on on Zabat? I mean,

935
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: certainly we spent a lot of time on the three

936
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 4: rounds versus five and maybe how the complexion might change.

937
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: But what is your take as a as a striking

938
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: guy on this sensational Zobeat Mago Metsuri Pop.

939
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you that they look they're both a

940
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: little different, but they're both very good at what they do.

941
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: But no, Zabeat I had in the gym a couple

942
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 3: of times. So super talented guy, very talented guy. He

943
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: does a lot of things really really good at a

944
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 3: high level. But this third round thing looks like it's

945
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean, I don't know how he's

946
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: gonna make five rounds. He's he's probably about six to one,

947
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: so I'm assuming he struggling at forty five because this

948
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 3: isn't like the first time he you know, sinks in

949
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: the third round a little bit. And I mean Tita

950
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: was chasing him around the ring and Calvin, you know,

951
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: he definitely can hit. His boxing is on point, and

952
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 3: I think it took him a while. You know. Look,

953
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: he flew to Russia to fight. I'm saying, if that

954
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: fights in Boston, I'm not even sure what happens in

955
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: that fight, and when he had the crowd behind him,

956
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: and who knows, but for a five round fight. After

957
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: looking at that, I mean, look at the very least Calvin,

958
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: that's his name. I mean, I like to look at

959
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 3: the guy too, but I mean, at the very least

960
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: he knows that he belongs right in that championship talk.

961
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 3: That's the first thing. So I mean, it seems like

962
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 3: people are figuring the Beat out a little bit, you know,

963
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: because he's not really getting anybody out of there. But

964
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought there was a good fight

965
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 3: in the third round. Look the tall one. That third

966
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: round more decisive than the first two rounds, anybody, you

967
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: know what I mean? They were close, but yeah, they

968
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: give me a beat, But it was a close fight. Man.

969
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 3: He was actually chasing them. And then Za Beat was

970
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: having a hard time even doing the interview afterwards. So again,

971
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's forty five he said he

972
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 3: had staff infection, but it's not like it's the first

973
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: time that he said problems in the third round. So

974
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's If the five rounds is

975
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: the he's one hundred percent championship material, but five rounds

976
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: is going to be looks like a game changer.

977
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and right, it wasn't you know, it was a

978
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 5: decent pace, but it wasn't a crazy pace of a.

979
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 6: Fight, you know what I mean?

980
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: Right exactly?

981
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: I think you have a party.

982
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: You got to say if there was a fourth and

983
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 3: fifth round. Based on what we saw, there was no

984
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: question that guitar was going to win that fight.

985
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was that. There was a momentum shift, no

986
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 6: doubt about it in that third round.

987
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

988
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: Hey, Ray, do you do you train anyone in the

989
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 4: in the bare knuckle boxing realm?

990
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 3: No? No, I just helped out Polymolanaji that he was

991
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: coming to the gym, and uh, you know, we did

992
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: a bunch of training sessions together. But no, I don't

993
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: you know, besides that, I didn't getting hard up with

994
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 3: that at all.

995
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 4: You know, Kemflow told us earlier he's not a scientist.

996
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 4: That I'm not asking you right to quantify the damage

997
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 4: of you know, flesh on flesh versus a little four

998
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 4: ounce glove in there. But uh, I mean, what are

999
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: your thoughts on on bare knuckle boxing? And uh, if

1000
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 4: somebody came to you and said, hey, this is what

1001
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 4: I want to do, would you would you be all in?

1002
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: Uh that's a good question. I mean I'm not a Look,

1003
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: I'm not watching it. You know I watched it, you know,

1004
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: for because of POLLI that time. But uh, look I

1005
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean they're doing You can answer that

1006
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: anybody just came and said this is all I want

1007
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 3: to do. I'm not I'm probably not doing it. But yeah,

1008
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: I like for Poli was like kind of like a

1009
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 3: novelty thing, and uh, he really ended up being a

1010
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: really really great guy. It was just great getting to

1011
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: know him because I you know, like I've met him

1012
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 3: a couple of times into boxing gyms over the years,

1013
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 3: but he really turned out to be a good guy.

1014
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: So I'm glad, you know, we got to make that connection.

1015
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: But uh, now that that wouldn't be something I would

1016
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: be looking to.

1017
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: Do for a novelty thing. Would you train me for

1018
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: a bare knuncle boxing match against against Eve Parker who

1019
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: used to train.

1020
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: No question about no question.

1021
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 4: I'll get back to you. Just sort of just sort

1022
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: of came to the surface today. I'll get back to you.

1023
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: I don't want to punch him in the face right now,

1024
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: but I.

1025
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 6: Think we're trying to get actually where today he is.

1026
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 6: He is and expired up.

1027
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 5: He's got three kids, he's seen it all, he's been

1028
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 5: to he's been to.

1029
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 6: Hell and back. The late Star time is doing me

1030
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 6: no favors. Damn sure.

1031
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: So uh ray, I hate to sort of and on

1032
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: well before you know, before we do that. In terms

1033
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 4: of your local guys, I mean, obviously I'm following your

1034
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 4: every move on social media. You saw you with Matt

1035
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: the steamroll of Rovola there recently. But tell us what

1036
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 4: you do have I mean, shouted out.

1037
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: What a great kid is he's fighting on the Washington

1038
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: d C card. So he had a Billy Quarantello. Oh yeah,

1039
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: he won the contilly Billy Quarantello, righties, Yeah, what a

1040
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: what a sweetheart that kid is. So he had a

1041
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 3: good one last night. And so the other kid, he's

1042
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: a big fifty five of the kid that was next

1043
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: to him. So we had a good night last night.

1044
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: Nice all right, So I'm going to end on sort

1045
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 4: of a somber note as we sort of all hope

1046
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 4: and pray for the best for Walt Harris's stepdaughter, Ayah Blanchard.

1047
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 7: Ray.

1048
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: But as the three of us sit here as fathers

1049
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 4: of daughters, and your daughters are obviously closer in age

1050
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: to Anya than Ken Flows and mine are. But many

1051
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: of our listeners know the story. By now UFC heavyweight

1052
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 4: contender Walt Harris his nineteen year old stepdaughter Anyah Blanchard

1053
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: last seeing October twenty third. A suspect arrested in her

1054
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 4: disappearance case, almost two weeks ago.

1055
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 6: At this point.

1056
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 4: Now, Walt and his wife were on with Doctor Phil

1057
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 4: earlier this week. They believe this may have been premeditated.

1058
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: They say there's actually something they can't discuss right now,

1059
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: a potential lead that might involve someone that an Iyan knows.

1060
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: In the meantime, her biological father and stepmother went on

1061
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: TV locally in Alabama. They believe she was a victim

1062
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 4: of a random car jacking. So it's just sad that

1063
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: there's even dissension there. But this whole thing, Ray is

1064
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 4: just so awful and unimaginable. And for situations that you

1065
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: can encounter as a parent, it just doesn't get any

1066
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: worse than this man. I mean, obviously you've been seeing

1067
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 4: this ray just way and heavy on the MMA community

1068
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 4: as every twenty four hours passes.

1069
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 6: You know, I.

1070
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: Look, you know, we hear about this stuff. But and

1071
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: I know you know wal Terrace, I mean the little

1072
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: I know them what a genuinely beautiful guy this guy is.

1073
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: And if I stay on the phone, I'll start I

1074
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: definitely will break up because I got two daughters. But

1075
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: I can tell you this to keep it show. The

1076
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 3: whole gym is whearing. Uh you know the Anaia bracelets

1077
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 3: to find Anya bracelets and uh definitely Lauren and as

1078
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: you know, uh, it's definitely you know, anything we could do.

1079
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: And you know, me and Chris took a picture the

1080
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 3: other day. He didn't put it up here, but we're

1081
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: gonna post something. But uh, it's a horrible thing and

1082
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 3: I just we can only wish for the best outcome.

1083
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: And again knowing the guy makes it, you know, that

1084
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: much closer to your heart. And I mean, anything I

1085
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: could ever do for that guy with doing a heartbeat,

1086
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 3: but what a you know, like as a parent, it's

1087
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 3: just unimaginable, like you said, And again, I have two

1088
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: daughters and it's just it's tough. And that's a tough one.

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00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 5: It really is him.

1090
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: Saw him and his wife Angela five days before the

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00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 4: disappearance at the Way in Boston.

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Speaker 3: Of all those sit next to a meeting in Boston

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00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: and guys always a complete gentleman, and it's just a

1094
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, like the little I know, my I

1095
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: can't say anything but just awesome things about that guy.

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00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: He's always respectful, always goes out of his way to

1097
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 3: say hello, and uh, it's I just had this conversation

1098
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 3: with Chris last week. It just you know, we just

1099
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: saw him in Boston and it happened after that. And again,

1100
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, the UFC sent us some bracelets. We got

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00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 3: everybody wearing them and good hopefully you know, we could

1102
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 3: channel that energy into a positive outcome.

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00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, those find an Eye bracelets all over the UFC headquarters,

1104
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 4: American Top Team. It's great that they're sending them all

1105
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 4: over there, and those will continue to raise money for

1106
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 4: her search and rescue team. All right, I'll get kem

1107
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 4: Flo Stoughts on the other side. But Ray, we'll let

1108
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 4: you go, my man. So does that mean I'll see

1109
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 4: you in the nation's capital, I guess on December seventh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be enough. No, no, Billy. He trains in

1111
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: Florida and friends with Tom Roller forever. So these guys

1112
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 3: used to come to Jim every so often. And again,

1113
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: he's a good kid, so I'm really pulling for him

1114
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: a lot. On December seventh.

1115
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: All right, buddy, thanks for your time. Stay in our lives. Kid.

1116
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 6: We'll talk to you next Monday. Good luck, man.

1117
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: And then then dude, hit a hit up the peace pipe.

1118
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: It'll do you a little good. You got to call

1119
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 3: him a little bit.

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00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah.

1121
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 4: By the way, if you're looking for peace pipes, check

1122
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 4: out Ray Longo NNA on Instagram. So juicy photos from

1123
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 4: the nineteen sixties.

1124
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 3: I tell you what, you know, what's funny. Back then

1125
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: you could have did life in jail for that. I

1126
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 3: think somebody wrote that.

1127
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 6: Yeah right, that's true.

1128
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: Huh wow, yeah made man? Those where what happened in

1129
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: those days? Damn?

1130
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 6: I'm telling they're gone, thankfully. Fuck it all right, right,

1131
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 6: get out of here, Ray, get out of here.

1132
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: All right, take it ease.

1133
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: Yes, see you, the great Ray Longo.

1134
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 4: Every week dating to episode one here on the Anicon

1135
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: Floran podcast Kenfall. This Walt Harris thing just hits hard man.

1136
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 4: You know, we met him obviously very early on in

1137
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 4: his UFC career, and as a fighter, right, You've had

1138
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: to train and work through some very hard circumstances obviously

1139
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: in your professional career. I just feel like for him

1140
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: as a fighter, he's sitting on the cusp of his

1141
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 4: first UFC main event against Alistair roverin going to be

1142
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 4: a big show in DC, and now this happens, and

1143
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 4: you know, mixed martial arts and training just becomes so secondary.

1144
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: And I think, I'm sure breaking a sweat and releasing

1145
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 4: the endorphins is obviously a great outlet for him as

1146
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: he tries to deal with this. But it's like, God,

1147
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 4: I mean, how do you even snap off a jab

1148
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 4: when like you feel like you should be out looking

1149
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 4: for your daughter at every gas station in the state

1150
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: of Alabama.

1151
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 6: You know, when I heard.

1152
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 5: This news, it's it's heartbreaking. And then you know, when

1153
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 5: you know someone like a Walt Harris, who is just

1154
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 5: the friendliest, nicest guy you can meet, a true martial artist.

1155
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 5: We've had him on the show a few times, and

1156
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 5: you know, of course, you know, both of us have

1157
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: spoken to him personally. He's a friendly guy, and to

1158
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 5: hear this happen to his family is just heartbreaking.

1159
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 6: And I don't even know what I would do.

1160
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 5: And then you talk about him during his professional career

1161
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: as a mixed martial artist having to deal with something

1162
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 5: like this and hold up his family during this time.

1163
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 6: I can't even imagine it.

1164
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: I've dealt, obviously with the death of my brother, which

1165
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 5: was something horrible. I didn't have to deal with it

1166
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: while I was fighting and having to focus on something

1167
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 5: like that. But man, I don't know what I would

1168
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: do if this happened to, you know, someone in my

1169
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 5: family and having to deal with this, it's I don't know. Again,

1170
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 5: it's bringing up emotions for me as far as my

1171
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 5: brother and all those things, and I just I feel

1172
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 5: so bad for them and their family. And it's something

1173
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 5: that I hope gets resolved very quickly, and I hope

1174
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 5: a positive outcome comes from this. I hope she's safe,

1175
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 5: I hope she's okay, and I hope they find her

1176
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 5: as soon as possible. Man is, this is a real

1177
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 5: life nightmare. And again, like Ray Ray says, we hear

1178
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 5: about it happening, You read it in the news and

1179
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 5: you kind of flick through and go, oh, that's terrible,

1180
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 5: and you turn the page. But when it hits home

1181
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: or something like this is someone that you know, you realize, oh, man,

1182
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 5: this happens, and this could happen to anyone. I already feel,

1183
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 5: you know, like my daughter at her age is vulnerable

1184
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 5: and things like that. Man, And you know I already

1185
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 5: have my head on a swivel and hearing this kind

1186
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 5: of news.

1187
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 6: Man, it's unsettling.

1188
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 5: And man, I continue to train in martial arts and

1189
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 5: I'll make sure you don't know what could happen. But

1190
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that my daughter, you know, knows how

1191
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 5: how to protect yourself the best of it. I'm not

1192
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 5: saying that would be you know, the cure all, but

1193
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 5: you do what you can to keep your kids as

1194
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 5: safe as possible.

1195
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 6: Man.

1196
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 5: And man, it's just the whole story just is awful.

1197
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 5: I feel a pit in my stomach that I just

1198
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: don't like to feel.

1199
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 6: And again, I hope this gets resolved. Man.

1200
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and not to

1201
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: say that the the world wasn't a dangerous place in

1202
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 4: the nineteen eighties when we grew up in MetroWest, Massachusetts. Right,

1203
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 4: but we would literally dump our bags, get on a

1204
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 4: bicycle and be gone until the sun went down.

1205
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 6: And you want to raise your daughters and your children.

1206
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: I do have a son now with a certain fearlessness,

1207
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: right that allows them to go out into the world

1208
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 4: and experience adversity in things and falling off their bike

1209
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. And but I had a conversation

1210
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 4: with my wife as Walt Harris you know, posted this

1211
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 4: afternoon on his Instagram page or in his story, Lord

1212
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 4: grant us peace and strength. This is a pain like

1213
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 4: no other. Hashtag find and iya three hours ago. You know,

1214
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 4: I said, you know, I do want my daughters to

1215
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: be fearless, but I also maybe kind of want them

1216
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 4: to be a little bit fearful. And maybe here's some

1217
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: of this stuff even at eight years old, so they

1218
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 4: do recognize some of the dangers that are happened there.

1219
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 6: You know, these things happen.

1220
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So well it's a it's a crazy world. And

1221
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 4: Walt Harris, we're behind you, man, just know, you know,

1222
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 4: we're we're we're you know, not living and breathing it,

1223
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 4: but we're thinking about you guys every day and we're

1224
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 4: hoping for the best possible resolution. Are we got to

1225
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 4: get out of here? TJ DeSantis burning and it all ends.

1226
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,200
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1229
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1230
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