1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: On this episode of News World. Brian Kilmead is one 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: of the busiest people in television and radio today. Many 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: of our listeners already know him from watching him every 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: morning when Fox and Friends were his co host, and 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: from his nationally syndicated three hour radio program on Fox 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: News Radio, The Brian Kilmead Show. He is the author 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: of six books, five of them New York Times bestsellers, 8 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: which have sold over two and a half million copies. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: His most recent book, which just came out in paperback, 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: The President and the Freedom Fighter Abraham Lincoln Frederick Douglas 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: in their Battle to Save America's Soul, has a new epilogue, 12 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: so it's always fun. Brian is a great interview. He's 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: an amazing guy with a remarkable background. Thank you for 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: joining me again in the News World. Are you kidding? 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: Thanks Nude. I appreciate you doing this. We talked about 16 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: the first time around, and I just tried to put 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: news into the epilogue because they're trying to take down 18 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: the statues that were put up that Douglas dedicated. They 19 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: were in honor of Lincoln, and I can't believe it. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: It was as if the book was in the news 21 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: yet it was about two people that lived and thrived, 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, two centuries ago. Isn't this kind of amazing? 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean Frederick Douglas, who was one of the great 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: heroic figures of the nineteenth century, he understood that, for 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: whatever Lincoln's weaknesses, and he was open about Lincoln having weaknesses, 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: that in the end, Lincoln was a remarkably historic figure 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: who had profoundly changed America. And I think Douglas would 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: just say to all of these people who want to 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: tear down statues, you know, go get a life. This 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: is a total misunderstanding. But what is your gut tell you? 31 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: If Frederick Douglas were alive today, what would he be 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: saying to the statue of destroyers? It's good to care 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: about our history, but how dare you judge our history 34 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: this harshly? You have to judge people in the times 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: in which they live. When we go back and you 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: write history books, you are there's nothing you don't know. 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: I believe that you've digested just about every book written, 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: but new you judge people by the time in which 39 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: they're in, whether it's Columbus, whether it's Lincoln. And there 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: are things that frustrated Frederick Douglas about the life he 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: grew up in. Maybe because I don't know he was 42 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: a slave. He never really knew his mother, had a 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: hunt who his father was, never knew his birthday, but 44 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: had this thirst for learning and would overcome being a 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: slave to getting basically partial freedom, to escaping once getting caught, 46 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Luckily he had a second shot and it worked, and 47 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: he said, I realized I was in New York and 48 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: I was free. I was also free from a place 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: to eat, those places to sleep, and somebody who knew me. 50 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: You start from that point and you end up with 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas when I'm most famous people in the world, 52 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: best selling autobiography seven years after escaping to freedom, who 53 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: wanted to make our country better and euro upset because 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: certain things in our country aren't perfect. Man, this guy 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: was in America when it really wasn't perfect, and all 56 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to do is make it better. And he 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: had every opportunity to live a life of luxury elsewhere, 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: and to go ahead and judge America harshly. Now, tear 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: down statues and decide he's now or she is not 60 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: worthy to stand on that pedestal. I though you would 61 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: find it insulting. I should point out by it to 62 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: our listeners. In addition to everything else you're doing, you're 63 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: also doing this tour and you're going to be in Branson, 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: Mississippi on November twelfth, Tulsa, Oklaholma November thirteenth, Newark, New 65 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: Jersey on December second. And as I understand that they 66 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: can buy tickets to these events at ticketmaster dot com. 67 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: What I tried to do nude is I love talking 68 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: about history. I try to put all together on with 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: the two sports books and talk about inspiration, motivational, and 70 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: most importantly patriotism. I never thought that there would be 71 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: a book like sixteen nineteen that would be successful for 72 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: a couple or three years. I never thought it would 73 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: be in the curriculum. I never thought, and I'd have 74 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: to say, seventeen seventy six was the birthtime of America 75 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to sixteen nineteen. So I decided, you know what, 76 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: let me just do it all on stage, and rather 77 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: than wait for a speaking opportunity, why don't I just 78 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: make it And the last one, December second, in New 79 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Work is going to be televised on Fox Nation. You 80 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: know this when you go out and talk to people. 81 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: That's how you find out really what they think about 82 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: your shows, about the news. So that's when I get 83 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to a thousand people about what's 84 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: going on from their perspective. As much as I have 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: known you, I didn't realize you had ten years of 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: stand up experience. Was that like as a comedian, Yeah, 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean I would do kind of observational humor. I 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: just said, while I'm waiting for that job, why not 89 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: be better on my feet, be better at memorizing. Always 90 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: thought I had a sense of humor that needed to 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: be developed, and learned the formula and how to do it. 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: And so when I was out in CALIFORNI only in particular, 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I'd go to Ontario, which is right in the Inland Empire, 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: start in Malibu, and in between there'd be all these 95 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: places to go out and do stand up. So I 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: took a class, got seven minutes in fourteen minutes, and 97 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: try to get good on my feet. There's only upside. 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: There was some bad times on stage, but it was 99 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: only upside. When I was very very young, I did 100 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of that. If you're trying to do 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: live comedy in front of an audience who hasn't already 102 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: been pre trained to believe you're a comedian. That is tough. 103 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you must have had some wild experiences. I did. 104 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: And the thing is I would go times, and I'm 105 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: up four times a week, and then the things we 106 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: get so busy in sports and the news. Because I 107 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: was doing a news station and doing old sports radio 108 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: on the weekends. It would be two or three weeks 109 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: about doing it. Then I'd go back up, and then 110 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: you just start making connections. You start talking to people, 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: and along the way I got a job at an 112 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: old sports station, still able to do it back in 113 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: New York. And then I got this opportunity when Chet 114 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Collier called me. Who act was Roger Rails first boss. 115 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: We at the Mike Douglas Show, and he liked my 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: tape and he wanted to see me, and he said, 117 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: why don't you come in the next day, and I said, 118 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: I'm already on a channel. He goes, well, no one 119 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: watches your channel and no one watches art channel either, 120 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: so you can go on the air and no one 121 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: will know it. So I will hopped down the air 122 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and I got wow, I gotta do stand up later. 123 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a long day. And I did it 124 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: once and then they go, can you come in Monday? 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Can you start filling in Wednesday? And that was ninety 126 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: six and next Cno, I realize, I'm not gonna be 127 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: able to do stand up because you can't just jump 128 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: in once a month or once every two months. It's 129 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: like playing basketball any sport. So if I got to 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: get up at two thirty in the morning, I can't 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: be up at eleven o'clock at night. So that was it. 132 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: I don't know how far I could have went, but 133 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: it kind of stopped. Then. Were you a co host 134 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: at Fox and Friends from the very beginning? No, I 135 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: started filling in in ninety six. Gordi Hirsheiser oral Hirsheiser's 136 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: brother with the Dodgers. He was the original sports guy 137 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: and he was just off the field and on weekends 138 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: they had a three hour sports show. Can you imagine 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: where Maria is now nine to noon? And you didn't 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: want to do it. It's like I worked during the 141 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: week and I go, really to do a three hour 142 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: show in this beautiful facility at forty eighth and six, 143 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: I'd pay you, So I did it. I've already been 144 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: pounding it out in broadcasting since I was twenty two 145 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: twelve years so I realized how great this place was. 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: And then after one year they offered me a contract. 147 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: And then when the world started going crazy with the 148 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Clinton impeachment and Princess Diana dying, the Bosnia War, the 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: election mess then nine to eleven, and then afterwards there 150 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: was no time for sports, and they allowed me to 151 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: go full time news. So I'm forever grateful. That's really 152 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: amazing that you must have had some inner passion for 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: expressing yourself in public. I never was against it. I 154 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: was not arrogant, like look at me. I always liked 155 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: questioning people like you, like for example, I had you 156 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: on the air for four minutes, I have Jack Keane 157 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: on the air for five minutes on Fridays. I just 158 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: want to know enough to ask you questions that are 159 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: going to benefit the audience. And that was my whole thing. 160 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: I thought I could communicate effectively, but they were arrogant 161 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: to think I knew everything. So I love being in 162 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: situations that are unscripted to describe them. I love interviewing 163 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: people live in front of millions of people. Is in honor, 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: but it was one of those things where I could 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: do very few things. Well, I'm an average athlete at best. 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm not good building things. I don't tinker with cars. 167 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of hobbies. My hobby is 168 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: my job. Like I love communicating, learning about this stuff, 169 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: opening up my notes in the morning from the night before. 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: So I've always had a thirsty communicate. I love being 171 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: on stage, and I love being in unscripted situations. I'm 172 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: just trying to understand all this as a historian. But 173 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: apparently early on you really liked covering sports. I did 174 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: because I like being in the moment of something happening. 175 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Covered about twenty two Super Bowls, going on the field afterwards, 176 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: recounting from the people that made the catches, covering the 177 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: World Cup, things like that. I also love this. I 178 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: love covering great athletes who didn't make great money, Like 179 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: do you know we have the best lacrosse players in 180 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: the world here? Do you know that they got to 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: have other jobs so they'd be coming from Wall Street 182 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: going out to the field play in Major League lacrosse, 183 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: or the best players in the world to go to 184 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: the best schools. Harvard and Johns. Hopkins were the best U. 185 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Penn was fantastic and be able to cover those when 186 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: the athletes are happy to see you, as opposed to 187 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: the Yankees who want you to go jump at a 188 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: lake when you walk into the locker room. I love 189 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: those moments to be able to get it out there. 190 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: I love being in the middle of it because I 191 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: knew I would never be good athletically enough to make 192 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: it happen, but I would love to report that it happened. 193 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: I have to ask you, do you find pro football 194 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: more satisfying or college football? I know you think college 195 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: because you're in the South. I think pros because best 196 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: I had was Rutgers and Syracust, which was way upstate. 197 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: So I grew up on Jets and Giants and Fran Tarkington. 198 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: I know, University of Georgia then Chuck Foreman and Norm 199 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: Snead and all the Giants that were very bad when 200 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: I was growing up. And you grew up in the 201 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: college game, I know. I mean, the pros are really 202 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: amazing to watch, although I have to say, as a 203 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: Green Bay fan, it's been very painful recently. Chris Lyona 204 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: Sheriff Packerstock. We're in and our daughter and our son 205 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: in law. He's from Cheboygan. They each have a share 206 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: of The last couple of games have been a little 207 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: bit tough. That's not exactly what we're used to, but anyway, 208 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: best move on from the sad state of the packers 209 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: to what you see happening out there. Hi, this is nude. 210 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: We have serious decisions to make about the future of 211 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: our country. Americans must confront big government socialism, which has 212 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: taken over the modern Democratic Party, big business, news, media, entertainment, 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: and academia. 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Order it today 223 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: at gingwishtree sixty dot com slash book. You all have 224 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: done an amazing number of interviews with candidates, and it 225 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: seems to me that you've had a real chance to 226 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: see a lot of people, see how they react, what 227 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: they sound like, you know, what their body language is. 228 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: What does your gut tell you about what's going on. 229 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: I have a couple of things to say. I hope 230 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: you don't take this personally, but I don't think you 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: need to be a professional politician to be an effective politician. 232 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: I like the fact that people were successful in other 233 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: walks of life and go into politics. I thought that 234 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 1: was the whole point. You know, you want to do 235 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: a crim policy, it's great, But that you are a 236 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: doctor that made his way as a heart surgeon and 237 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: begin such a good communicator that Oprah thinks you deserve 238 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:39,239 Speaker 1: a syndicated show, and you do successfully talk to America 239 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: for I guess thirteen years. It's one of the top 240 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: three syndicated shows. I see him in the morning before 241 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: he goes and does his show, and I'm talking about 242 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: doctor Oz. Doctor Roz is shout out of a Canada 243 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: every day, just wants to communicate. If someone has a fever, 244 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: it bothers him. He wants to get to the bottom 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: of it. And this guy owns twelve houses. Guess what 246 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: he earned them. Do you think that people become hard 247 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: surgeons to be rich? So do you think that people 248 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: have gone syndicated shows? That's work and if you're not good, 249 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: every day you get graded, you're out. Doesn't care what 250 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: Oprah wants? Right? Doctor Phil the same way. So he's 251 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: already established himself and says, Okay, now I want to 252 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: spend millions of my dollars to help rescue a country 253 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: that I think is in trouble. Why is that bad? 254 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: I watched these experts. I watch every Sunday show tape 255 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: mall and I watch it. They're like, well, doctor ros 256 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing. He's not likable. He's not likable. 257 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: He's already went to the masses, mostly minority audience in 258 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: the middle of the day and he's already popular. What 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: is wrong with that? And the same thing with Herschel 260 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: He's a running back yeah, and then he became Then 261 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: he did Bob Sled Yeah, and then he did UFC okay, 262 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: and then on the Lord in the Way he started 263 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: a business. I've talked to people in that business. He 264 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: owns these properties and these people are able to get 265 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: franchises from him. He's able to keep multiple balls in 266 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: the air well. I think being just an outstanding individual 267 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: speaking to colleges, to military as well as police. And 268 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: then I see Carrie Lake somebody else who's a broadcaster, 269 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: and people say weak candidates. Just because they don't have 270 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: twenty years experience in the house doesn't mean they're weak. 271 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: I think the biggest story is Carried I can't believe 272 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: how talented she is. She goes into the most hostile 273 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: territory and just destroys people. She's come on this channel 274 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: very aggressively too, with people they didn't like her, and 275 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: I think she's going to be a superstar. I think 276 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: Kerschel is coming into his own I think it could 277 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: have been better to be transparent early about whatever it is. 278 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: And I think doctor Oz, if he gets in, and 279 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: I think he will, is going to be a fantastic senator. 280 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: And Fetterman couldn't be less qualified. You gotta be kidding me. 281 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: Since when does this guy represent Pennsylvania? Is that nuts? 282 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Adam Laxhall, It's going to come on this Saturday, Mastriano, 283 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I like, I know he's got some fringe ideas they'll 284 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: don bulldock within striking distance, So I find it really interesting. 285 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean, on the other side, the biggest disappointment as 286 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: a politician is Mark Kelly. I said to myself, this 287 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: guy's gonna be here for twenty years, astronaut, military, guy's 288 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: going to be moderate. I thought he'd be consider them 289 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: biggest disappointment. The guy doesn't do anything. He can't broadcast, 290 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: he can't convey his ideas, and now he's trying to 291 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: run from President Biden and people. I don't really like 292 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: a lot of what he did. Really, what did you do? 293 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: A couple of comments for his worth. The first time 294 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: I sat out with herschel to talk about running. We're 295 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: chatting and he turns to me. He goes, you know, 296 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: he says, I'm really not a football player, and I 297 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: said watch he said, now, he said, I'm a competitor. 298 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: He said, I happened to compete in football. He said, 299 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: I was also All American track. I also, as you 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: point out, was in the Winter Olympics and I think 301 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: set the record for launching bob sleds or something. And 302 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: then he said, I spent six months studying mixed martial arts, 303 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: which was really hard. And ended up being sort of 304 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: a world last martial arts fighter. He said, I just 305 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: like to compete. And I think people who tuned in 306 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: as Clifton I did and watched the debate the other night, 307 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: I think Warnock learned what it was like to be 308 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: up against the real competitor. I mean, you know, it's 309 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: clear that Herschel had practiced and practiced and practice, knew 310 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: what he was going to do and just did it. 311 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: And the polls I've seen to indicate he won the debate, 312 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: which people had assumed could have knocked him out of 313 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: the race because they just couldn't imagine and organized articulate 314 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Herschel walker and that's what they got. Yeah, a couple 315 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: of things. Do you notice his post rate went down 316 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: when most people like me would have went up. You 317 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: know what, guts at stake, Everyone's watching me. If I 318 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: blow this, I blown everything. Instead, his post rate drops, 319 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: just like every great athlete. You know, we watch you 320 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: who'd want the bow the basis loaded his three two 321 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the night. Who wants to take 322 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: a penalty kick in front of thirty million people? They do, 323 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: those athletes. And you had to tell me that standing up, 324 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: Nick so Rafael Warnock was more intimidating than doing everything 325 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: that he's done with the Cowboys, the Vikings, the Giants, 326 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: the University of Georgia, the General's on down, as well 327 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: as competing the Olympics. So going into the octagon, going 328 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: to the octagon with a man that's been trained to 329 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: knock your head off as opposed to a reverend that 330 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: doesn't know how he got the job. I'm pretty sure 331 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: that he stepped up to the moment. Well, you could 332 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: tell that night because we're not got weaker and weaker, 333 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: and at the very end. People may not realize this, 334 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: but Herschel went into the press room cheerfully. War Knock left. 335 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: He didn't talk to the press at all. I mean, 336 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: he was so shaken he just left. You know. He 337 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: mentioned doctor as I was up last week with Kennedy 338 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: and we did an event in York with about six 339 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: or eight hundred people. Is really good event. I've known Oz. 340 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: I used to have the Center for Health Transformation over 341 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and he and I worked on health 342 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: issues together. The thing that strikes me about him is 343 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: nobody is going to outwork him. He has been out 344 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: there Chris crossing the state going to every small town, 345 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: going to every county, and he's up against the guy 346 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: who is both nuts in terms of the issues, the 347 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: guy who voted to release twenty five different murderers when 348 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: everybody else on the par board was against it, but 349 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: also Fetterman because of his health situation, he just can't 350 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: do what Oz is doing. And I think the sheer 351 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: energy OZ is bringing to that, plus the number of 352 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: people who watched him with Oprah for years and have 353 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: this sense that, you know, he must be a pretty 354 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,479 Speaker 1: good guy for her to have been that close to him, 355 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: and I think that he's going to win. I was 356 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: born in Harrisburg and have relatives in the area, and 357 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: one of them said to me the other day, they said, 358 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, Feederman trying to make a big deal about 359 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: whether or not Oz was from New Jersey. So let 360 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: me tell you, Fetterman is a lot more scary than 361 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: New Jersey. I know exactly. That's kind of wild. And 362 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: since when can't you move? Yeah, I'm curious because you 363 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: have a whole series of history books. I have to 364 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: tell you, by the way, that Rebecca, who works with us, 365 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: is a Texan, and she says everybody in her family 366 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: has read Sam Houston and the Alamo a Ventures, every 367 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: single one of them. Now, I can tell you she's 368 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: sitting across meat right now where we're talking, that she 369 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: is a genuine Texican and so there must be one 370 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: heck of a commitment to Texas patriotism to have the 371 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: kind of intensity she had. But you've written on Andrew Jackson, 372 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: You've written on Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, now Lincoln, what 373 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: comes next? I'm working on it now. I've a working 374 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: title of Teddy and Booker T. The way they teamed 375 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: up together to race America towards racial harmony, and with 376 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: it with Booker T. Watch she was able to do again, 377 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: just like Douglas born a slave, I was able to 378 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: overcome it all. When his parents told him we need 379 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: your money, you can't go get you educated. He ends 380 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: up getting a college education when it ted to get 381 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: him there, and then becomes the great pupil, a great professor. 382 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: And when they need somebody to open up a university 383 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: in Alabama, Tuskegee, they sent Booker T. Washington, and he's 384 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: honored until he gets there and he realized it's one 385 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: room and there's no place for him to stay and 386 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: really not much of a budget to pay him, and 387 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: he ends up forming Tuskegee University. How he did it, 388 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: and all he thought about was bringing more people, more 389 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: educated African Americans to America. But also, as Mike Row 390 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: would love, teach them a trade. You can't just have 391 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: an intellect. You have to be able to make stuff 392 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: and be valuable. As soon as white America understands the 393 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: value of Black America, the quicker we're going to hear 394 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: racial disparities. And he did it. There might be a 395 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: racist to meet him in the morning and two great 396 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: guys to meet him in the afternoon. He's going to 397 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: focus on the two great guys and Teddy Roosevelt. People 398 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: think he was born with opulence and a lot of advances. Well, 399 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, he had a brutal upbringing where sickly, a 400 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of people didn't think he was going to survive. 401 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: And he had a Southern mom who had relatives that 402 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: fought for the Confederacy and a Northern dad that always 403 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: felt guilty he didn't fight for the Union. And then 404 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you see how these two worlds collide, and the respect 405 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,239 Speaker 1: that tr had for book or t and how when 406 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: he was Vice President, they met, but when he became president, 407 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: he leaned on him for expertise on the South to 408 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: help him actually win election, even though he had three 409 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and a half years on his own, A win election 410 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: by himself and made book Or T. Washington a power 411 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: play and famously provided him to the White House, which 412 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: caused a great scandal at the time. So I just thought, 413 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: separately and together they moved America forward. You personally are 414 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: creating a counterpoint to all of the left wing anti 415 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: American lies. I mean, as I watched these books evolved, 416 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: it's amazing using their words new I try to use 417 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: their words, they try to use their words. I start 418 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: with his biography Up from Slavery. If anybody has for you, 419 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: it'll take forty five minutes. It took me like a 420 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: couple of train rides. I read Booker T. Washington's Up 421 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: from Slavery. He knows you what it's like being twelve 422 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: years old, being called to the main House, seeing Union 423 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: soldiers walk in and say you're free, and the celebration starts, 424 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and then they come back to the house and they go, 425 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: can I stay here? I have nowhere to go? He says. 426 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: I felt bad for the White people as happy as 427 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: they did for the black people. Because white people didn't 428 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: know how to do anything. White people did it all. 429 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: And instead of me reading an account from an author, 430 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: they might have an agenda, I'm reading book or t. 431 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: Washington's thoughts who has established himself as Tuskegee and making 432 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: himself in America that he knew and he loved the country, 433 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: so nothing but potential, so glad he was born here. 434 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: You could not get this guy down. He was gonna 435 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: make it happen. He was going to have a president 436 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: speak at his commencement addressed at Tuskegee. That was his goal, 437 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: and he got McKinley to do just that, and he 438 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: won over the town. You know, it was just so interesting. 439 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. You talk about the power 440 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: of positive thinking today. Hey, if things are going bad, 441 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: you change your mind around, you focus on what's good. 442 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: This guy wrote the book on that, and here he 443 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: is a slave. Every reason they hate America seeing the 444 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: separation and segregation that took place. And he says, you 445 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: know what, during the day, our kids go to school, 446 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: and at night they built the school. The other kids 447 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: go at school at night. During the day, they build 448 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the school. We would be great if we made our 449 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: own bricks. We could save some money. So they decided 450 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: to buy a kill and they make their own bricks. 451 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: They put the best bricks around. You know what he does. 452 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: He leaves him in the middle of the town and says, 453 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: donated by Tuskegee. And then he leaves a wagon in 454 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: the middle of the town to transport donated by Tuskegee. 455 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: So we didn't go in and say, please accept me, 456 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: forget about racial disparity. He said, we will win you 457 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: over by our actions. And that's what began. When people 458 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: get to realize, why do I think this way? Why 459 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: do I think blacks and whites around equal? Who told 460 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: me that? Not the ones I met? And that's how 461 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: he began to change minds. And he never spoke differently 462 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: in front of a white audience and a black audience, 463 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: and everybody appreciated that. And there was a certain guilt 464 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: that people felt coming right off the heels of slavery, 465 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: and to have a black man successful, dressed to the nines, 466 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: go up there and not hate you was the relief 467 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: to white people. They only wanted to make people want 468 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: to make the country better and heal the divide, and 469 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: I think there's so much to learn from that. In 470 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,239 Speaker 1: my opinion, though new there's nothing that people gain from that. 471 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: The activists of today saying Booker T. Washington showed us 472 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: the way, let's continue. They don't make money that way, 473 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: overcoming bias and prejudice. You don't make money that way. 474 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I think, did you make money by saying that America 475 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: is fundamentally racist? Give me a hundred bucks. That's the 476 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: only way to equal things out. And my personal opinion, 477 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas and Booker T. Washington have messages, both Republicans 478 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: have messages that they don't want to hear, the general 479 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: public doesn't want to accept. But I do feel better 480 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: about it today than I did two years ago, and 481 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: I think we've turned a corner. You know, we did 482 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: this once before in the late sixties and early seventies, 483 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: when we had a huge upsurge of anti America and feeling, 484 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: had twenty five hundred bombings in a two year period, 485 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: had a million people outside the Pentagon, the Black Panthers 486 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: openly waged war on the police and ambushed and killed 487 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: at least thirteen policemen, and then the country kind of 488 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: shook itself and said, well, that's crazy. We really had 489 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: a very profound shift back towards a more traditional America. 490 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm writing a paper right now and the two wings 491 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party, the weird wing and the insane wing, 492 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: because I think they've gone so overboard that the average, normal, 493 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: everyday American, whatever their background, whether they're Democrat, Republican or 494 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: independent or just don't care about politics, they look at 495 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: it and it's not political. It's almost like it's a 496 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: mental health problem. I think it's really fascinating, and I 497 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: think part of what I like Brian about, first of all, 498 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: about your own personal attitude, which is always upbeat, always positive. 499 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: I've done a couple of hundred interviews with you over 500 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: the years, and you're always energetic, You're always coming forward 501 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: and it's fun. And these books have that same spirit. 502 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, these are books from somebody who loves America, 503 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: loves history, and has really gone out of your way 504 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: to find the unique angle to tell a story that 505 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: makes it intriguing and powerful. But I really commend you. 506 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: It's remarkable. Thanks. I mean, this is what I would 507 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: love doing. If I owned a Delhi, I would spend 508 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: my free time talking about politics and reading about history. 509 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: The fact that I can do it for a living. 510 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't need a hobby, so to me, it's fun. 511 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 1: When I read up from Slavery, I was bothering everybody 512 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: in my family, go do you read this line? This 513 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: guy four years ago is a slave, always sees his 514 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: opportunity in America. These guys overcome it. I know a 515 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of great people didn't. But I also think there's 516 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: a reason why people last through time. Not that they're perfect, 517 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: but they do extraordinary things in their time. I never 518 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: thought history would be news in the afterward. In this book, 519 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: I talk about the Freedom Statue dedicated by Frederick Douglas 520 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: in the name of Abraham Lincoln. Ten years after his death. 521 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: They're taking it down. They're trying to take it down 522 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: in Washington, and they took it down in Massachusetts. And 523 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: even though Douglas didn't love the design, you know who 524 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: paid for it. Emancipated slaves. You know they did. They 525 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: commissioned a designer, Thomas Ball. So if you had a problem, 526 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: go back to eighteen sixty, find those emancipated slaves, yell 527 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: at the Italian designer, and then get mad at Frederick 528 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: Douglas for dedicating the statue. How dare you take it 529 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: down because you believed that America's a racist? But that's 530 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: what I put in the afterward. And then they took 531 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas's statue out in Rochester and they leaned it 532 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: against the fence. I had called up the costs. They go, guys, 533 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: is there an end to this story? And they, oh, no, 534 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: we don't know who did it. But they put it 535 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: back and they fixed it and they put a guard 536 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: by it. I mean, you should put an extra Frederick 537 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: Douglas statue out if you want to support Black Lives Matter. 538 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's a little sick to take 539 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: a statue of Frederick Douglas. And he had to wonder, 540 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: other than drugs, exactly what was going on with the 541 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: people who are doing that. And I have to ask 542 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: you something about current offense. You actually ride the subway, right, yes, 543 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: So what do people say to you? I get the sense, 544 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: and you know, as a non New Yorker, the stories 545 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: we've been seeing recently about people getting pushed into the subway, 546 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: people getting knifed on the subway, I mean, has it 547 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: really gotten that much worse? Well? Put it this way, 548 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: I go one or two stops to Penn Station. I 549 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: go home, because if you've been in New York, you 550 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: know if you into Sean Hannity's house, if he ever 551 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: says to you drive in from the city and it's 552 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: four o'clock in the afternoon, that should be a half 553 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: hour ride. It would be two and a half. So 554 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: I know, if I hop on a train and get 555 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: reading done, I know exactly what I'm getting home. I'll 556 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: leave my car there in the morning. They're kind enough 557 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: to send a car. So I got hassled one time 558 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: on the subway, and I didn't want to make it 559 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: a viral moment, so I just ignored people. They followed 560 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: me through three stops and two trains, and they take 561 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: the whole thing, and I kind of regret, and I'm 562 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: making an incident of it. But besides that, I don't 563 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: have a problem. I see some homelessness and mental derangists. 564 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: I haven't been personally confronted, but I'd say it's forty 565 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: percent worse. I would say on forty second Street sometimes, 566 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: if you're trying to get to a train, you jump 567 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: in a forty second right by the hard rock and 568 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: you go one stop to thirty fourth. That's a little 569 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: bit of a crazy A lot of stuff has happened 570 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: down there. The thing that strikes me is I never 571 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: see cops. I used to see cops all the time. 572 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: I never see them down They basically say, without qualified immunity, 573 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: which has been to a degree taken away, I'm done. 574 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: And if I'm going to arrest this crazy guy down there, 575 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: and you're gonna put him back out before I get 576 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: finish the paperwork, why am I risking my life. So 577 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: that's the combination of things that happened. So it is, 578 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: I say, forty percent worse. I said. The great irony 579 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: is that Bill Bratton first broke through with his ideas 580 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: when he took over the New York Subway Police. He 581 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: came down from Boston. I think they're about four thousand 582 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: subway police, and they cleaned up the subways, and amazingly 583 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: he went back up to Boston. And when Giuliani won, 584 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: he interviewed three people. Broughton was the third, and he 585 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: said to each guy, so if you get to be 586 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: the commissioner, how much can you reduce crime? And the 587 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: first you gave him the standard liberal answer, Well, it's 588 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: really complicated. We really don't know, and he got to 589 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Broughton said ten percent. The first year, he said, 590 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: you're hired. And then, as you know, because you lived there. 591 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: It was astonishing to me at its peak, between Giuliani 592 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: and Bloomberg, who continued the same policies, the city became 593 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: so safe. I had no problem after going to a 594 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: Broadway show, walking to a local restaurant at eleven twelve 595 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: o'clock at night, right through Times Square, an area which 596 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: had been almost uninhabitable under Amare Dinkins. And now we 597 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: have decayed back into a pre Julian a jungle. I mean, 598 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: it is absurd. It is I would think that things 599 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: got to get really bad before the worst. And I 600 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: hear the twenty two hundred transit cops now instead of 601 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: four thousand. That's where Ray Kelly said yesterday on the 602 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: John Cassimatidi's podcast. He said, you got to revisit that number. 603 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: You got to have to get more guys in there, 604 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: go back to stop and frisk and you know, zero tolerance, 605 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: and you got to go back to bail. You had 606 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: this whole idea that's like the nineteen seventies and what 607 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: made the Clint Eastwood movies work. If you go back 608 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: and you watch the original Clinicstood Dirty Harry movies, they're 609 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: describing a world in San Francisco where you had left 610 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: wing judges who put people back on the street faster 611 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: and need to fill out the paperwork. And what it 612 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: led to was an attitude of almost vigilanteism. If you remember, 613 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: I mean Eastwood made his career playing a very tough cup. 614 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: I think people get tired of being afraid. Oh absolutely, 615 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to be a victim. It would hit 616 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: your self. Estee, Charles Bronson too, Remember he was that 617 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: great figure, the same dude's sinking up for yourself. But 618 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. You know, in fact, one 619 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: of our reporters is doing the story tonight and Zelden's 620 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,959 Speaker 1: going to have a big debate on Tuesday, and he's 621 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: leading with crime. But it's not manufactured. He was leading 622 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: with crime before crime was real looked at as a 623 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: top five issue for New Yorkers. Now it's one and 624 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: she's still talking about abortion. And she had a press 625 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: conference on Saturday saying we're gonna have a new all 626 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: hands on deck approach to fighting crime. Really, you mean 627 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: fifteen days before an election that you totally ignored and 628 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: took for granted. Now you're gonna do it. So they're 629 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: gonna debate on Tuesday. My point with Zeldin believes that 630 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: to a degree Adams wants to work with him, that 631 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: he's frustrated. He got humiliated when he went up to Albany. 632 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: He said, get rid of no cash ball and they 633 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: laughed at him. Not only did they say no, but 634 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: they mocked him and evidently really not a great thing 635 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: to do to anybody, especially in your own party. But 636 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: he knows that Zeldo would be a partner and new 637 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: you might have trouble being mayor here. There's not many 638 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: due Republicans around. But I think our effective conservative knows 639 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: the landscape and would have to cut deals but work 640 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: with people in order to get stuff done. For example, 641 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: it looks like you know better than me. But Schwarzenegger 642 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: went in like a conservative and got nothing done and 643 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: realized you couldn't move anything, and then he won't wait 644 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: to the left and disappointed all sides. So I think 645 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: Zelding's going to get in, and if he gets in, 646 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't think he has any problem work with Democrats. 647 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: Juliana had the same experience, and so to Patukey. I mean, 648 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna try to change New York, that city 649 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Council is going to remain Democrat in the shot run. 650 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: You may get a few more Republicans, but you're not 651 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: going to take control. It's amazing to me. I mean, 652 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: the first question to the governor should have been, if 653 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: you have a new plan, does that's start with firing 654 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: the district attorney who refuses to lock up criminals and 655 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: she won't do it. We could go on for a 656 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: long time, because you are so much fun and you 657 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: know so much and I really like chatting with you. 658 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for joining me. I want 659 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: to encourage our listeners to pick up a copy of 660 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: your book, The President and the Freedom Fighter Abraham Lincoln 661 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: Frederick Douglas and their Battle to Save America's Soul, now 662 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: out in paperback. And if you live anywhere near Branson, Tulsa, 663 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: or Newark, I hope they'll come out and see you 664 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: on your tour. And I want to thank you for 665 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: joining me in Newtsworld. All right, Thank you, Nude, It's 666 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: been an honor. Go get him. Thank you to my guests, 667 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: Brian Kilmead. You can get a link to buy his book, 668 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: The President and the Freedom Fighter on our show page 669 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: at newtsworld dot com. News World is produced by Gingwishtree 670 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Carnsey Slow, our 671 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: producer is Rebecca Howe, and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. 672 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: The artwork for the show was created by Steve Penley. 673 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: Special thanks to the team at Gingwishtree sixty. 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