1 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to SAVOR production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: have a short episode for you about spooky Stuff, a 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: sort of unstructured chat about horror. If y'all have ever 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: been listening to Savor and thinking, oh man, I wish 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: that they would shut up about food and just keep 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: talking about nerdy things that interested them, then here you are. 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. And also thanks to everyone who's 9 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: written in, because we are kind of dithering on what 10 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna call this what it's like short stuff or 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: side dish or a bunch of things amuse boush. Somebody 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: suggested um, so thank you for all those suggestions. We 13 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: are taking them into account. This one is kind of 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: appropriate for the season, kind of just haphazardly thrown together 15 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: due to various reasons. But also, yes, Lauren and I 16 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: could talk about horror forever. So yeah, frequently when we 17 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: get on our little, our little skype chat before we 18 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: record an episode, We'll just be chatting and frequently about 19 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: horror movies. And then all of a sudden it's thirty 20 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: forty minutes later, and I'm like, do you want to 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: record the episode here today to hypothetically record, right, So 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna try to keep this shorter than that. We'll 23 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: see how it goes. Yeah. Well, it was also funny 24 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: because we were trying to come up with ideas about 25 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: what it could be, and Lauren was in a very 26 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: important all day meeting for multiple days, and I was like, 27 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: here are fifty things that I'm thinking about and just 28 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: like kept pinging me. And I think my favorite, the 29 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: one that I actually laughed out loud and then had 30 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: to explain to the room about was when you said, uh, 31 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: there have also been a rash of pumpkin boat news items. Yes, 32 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: it's not that I disbelieve you, it's just the the 33 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: statement there's also been a rash of pumpkin boat news 34 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: items is very funny objectively and especially in the midst 35 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: of like serious business proceedings. So I was like me, 36 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: awhile in my other life pumpkin boats there has been 37 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: at least four news stories that I have seen. Oh 38 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: my goodness, all right, well, we'll we'll have to file 39 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: those away for another day. Yes, I did want to 40 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: say before we get into this, uh, the new season 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: of Thirteen Days of Halloween is happening now. Oh yeah, 42 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: you have happened. Uh, it is culminating today if you 43 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: are listening on Halloween. And so Annie, your episode came in. 44 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: The episode that you wrote came out yesterday as we 45 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: record this today today. Okay, I'm sure that it's great. 46 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: Oh I'm gonna listen to it later. But yeah, and 47 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: you you have provided very creepy voicing. Thank you. Yes, yeah, 48 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: if you all have been listening, Yes, that was me 49 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: as the telephone operator, the creepy, creepy telephone operator. Um, 50 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: it was excellent. Thank you. I also have one of 51 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the screams as people are dying in a fire. Oh. Also, 52 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure excellent. I'm not sure I picked it out 53 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: or that it has happened, but sure it was or 54 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: will be great. The producer, Alex Williams actually sent me 55 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: like a very long, rambling voicemail about how much he 56 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: loved that scream. That's so much like him and I 57 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: love that. Um. Yes, Thirteen Days of Halloween, if you 58 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: guys have not heard of it is a horror anthology 59 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: podcast that our team does every year, and this year's 60 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: Devil's Night and it's the star this year is Clancy Brown, 61 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: Holy heck, who's like one of my vocal idols and 62 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: also does such an amazing creepy job and stuff like Carnival. Um, 63 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: he was one of the really mean prison guards and 64 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: Shawshank redemption. Uh. Also, Annie, you have one that I 65 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: You're going to have to tell him, not me. It 66 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: was Mr Crabs that was the one. I was like, 67 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's the voice of Mr crashall SpongeBob SquarePants, 68 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: who is my favorite character from SpongeBob SquarePants. Okay, but 69 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: he is slightly evil. Um okay, yeah, motivated by money 70 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: and capitalism. Uh, the worst villains. Such a good character 71 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: though it looks so funny. Yeah, it made me very 72 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: very happy. I actually texted a bunch of friends. I 73 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: was like, Mr Krabs is gonna read something I wrote. 74 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: That's amazing. My my my main reference is like the 75 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: car getting the cart was going to read something that 76 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: I said. Here's something I said. I I don't have 77 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: a piece in this year's anyway. Um. Yeah, this is 78 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: this is the third season. The previous two are super fun. Um, 79 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: you had a food related one in the first season 80 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: that that is still on some people's minds. I've heard 81 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: feedback recently that that's one of the ones that like 82 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: has stuck with people. Yeah, and you know, that's a 83 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: good segue into this. I will say you have not 84 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: heard the one I did this year, but there was 85 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: a running joke that I've been cast as a cannibal, 86 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: which is such a thing to say that it is 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: very not suspect at all. Um. But one of the 88 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: ideas I put in the base camp about ideas around 89 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: horror things that have stuck with me around horror is 90 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: this idea that you're consuming something that you don't know 91 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: what it is, and a lot of times what's involved 92 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: in that is some kind of bodily fluid or even meat, 93 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: because meat pies was one of our first like we 94 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: could talk about different meat pie Yeah, like a countdown 95 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: of horrific meat pies. Um, sure, because right, like like 96 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: things like a Titus Andronicus and Sweeney Todd are both 97 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: like very formative pieces of media from my probably inappropriately 98 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: early childhood. Me too. I saw Titus Andronicus when I 99 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: was like under tin I thingie Tamore version. Oh, I 100 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: don't know that kind of like modern film with Anthony Hopkins. Yes, Yeah, Okay, yeah, 101 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: that's the Julie Tamore version. Um yeah, I'm still I 102 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's meant to be upsetting and schlocky, 103 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: but for sure that imagery hoofta, I love it. It's 104 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: very upsetting, it is. And then one of the things 105 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: that kept coming up to me um our our movies. 106 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: We talked about this in our Pants Labyrinth episode. Sometimes 107 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: movies aren't categorized as horror, but they have horror elements 108 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: or for whatever reason, really struck you as a horror movie. Sure, 109 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: so one of the ones that comes up for me 110 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: all the time when I think of food and food 111 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: scenes that horrified me. Where this was the scene in 112 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: Matilda kid is forced to eat the chocolate cake right 113 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: with a trench bowl. Yeah, and what how what a 114 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: what a terrifying character that still is I feel like 115 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: there's a little trench bull at the back of my 116 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: head all the time. I'm like just being intimidating and terrible. Yeah, 117 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: it was you know, very heavily implied, if not set 118 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: out right. This blood, sweat and tears were in this cake. 119 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Um and this kid is you know, eating his way 120 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: through it, and that that's something that has just stuck 121 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: with me, and that's part of what inspired my thirteen Days, 122 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: my original thirteen Days, which I call Red Velvet, but 123 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: is called like forking paths of the Garden in the original. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 124 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: there's there's any number, right, I mean, you know, like 125 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: the soilent greenest People trope can can be explored in 126 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: in any number of ways. But um, but but also 127 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: just just right, like your food being wrong or um 128 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: or your food transforming or being monstrous in some other 129 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: erect an often practical effect related way is just one 130 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: of my very favorite things that completely grosses me out 131 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: just not a not a lot gives me a bodily reaction. 132 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: But um, but I was thinking about, like, um, like 133 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: the scene in it where they're at the Chinese restaurant 134 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: and oh yeah, and it goes on and on. This 135 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: thing about that scene is you're like, surely, surely some 136 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: stop it's something. No, no, this is okay, all right. 137 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: I see why this I mean either the mini series 138 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: or the new movie series both, And like I see 139 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: why this is so long because the scene is twenty 140 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: nine hours and it it's like it's kind of related 141 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: to I think the heart of what a lot of 142 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the examples I was giving you is is that's supposed 143 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: to be a scene where they're coming together, they're trying 144 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: to heal their relationship, come up with a plan about 145 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: what to do, and it's flipped on them, where everything 146 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: that you might be connecting over all those warm things. Sure, 147 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: and and something something like one of those Chinese American 148 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: diners where it's it's really comfort food for a lot 149 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: of us, and a lot of it is very fried 150 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: and very starchy and um, and yeah, turning that completely 151 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: on its head, the nostalgia of that on its head 152 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: and having it be something so surreal and disgusting. Um, 153 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: it's very sharp and uh fun. Yeah, And that reminds 154 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: me of another one I love, which is the scene, 155 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: the famous scene an Alien where you've got this character 156 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: has woken up. He thought he was gonna die. Seems 157 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: like it's gonna be okay. And they have what they 158 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: don't know is a sense they're kind of last meal, 159 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: like they're final, very reminiscent of the Bible in a 160 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: lot of ways. And the food looks, you know, it 161 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: doesn't look super appetizing, but it looks, you know, pretty good, 162 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: and they're enjoying it and they're having fun, and they're like, oh, 163 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: this is our last thing we're gonna enjoy together before 164 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: we all hibernate because this is a set in space, 165 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: so they're gonna you know, space hibernate as you do. Sure, yeah, yeah, 166 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: And then it just becomes a really gruesome scene that 167 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: just shocked and stuck with so many people. Um of like, 168 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, there's you can hear my movie Crush episode 169 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: about all the other issues going on, but also like 170 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: you eat something and then what this thing pops out 171 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: of your stomach, Like it's so disturbing. Yeah, if you've 172 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: ever had a really bad case of indigestion, it's sort 173 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: of what what you fear is going to happen. But 174 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: right watching it play out literally on their dinner table 175 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, it's um And and that that reminded 176 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: me of one of the other categories that you suggested, 177 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: which is the horror of dinner parties or or the 178 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: anxiety of dinner parties. And how often we see that 179 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: played out as a trope in in in horror films, 180 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's everywhere it is, and it's really funny because again, 181 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: not to keep bringing it back to my work, but 182 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: my days story, Like some people were more disturbed by 183 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: the because it was about icebreakers and meeting new people. 184 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: Some people were more disturbed by that. And I have 185 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: just noticed lately a glut of these movies that are 186 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: about like going to a dinner party and it goes 187 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: wrong or there's another motive behind this dinner party. I 188 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: can't trust people at this dinner party. And I think 189 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: that's something that's always been there. That's a really fun 190 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: trope when you do like a who done it? But 191 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: I just I have I do feel like there's a 192 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: lot more lately, And I wonder if this has to 193 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: do with our kind of growing isolation, um due to COVID. 194 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: A lot of this did happen before COVID, but like 195 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: kind of our growing suspicion of what is this event 196 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: actually for? Like why am I going? Because you know, 197 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: usually at these events, you are, even if you like 198 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: the people there, you're putting up some kind of pretense. 199 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: So there's some performance that's going on that can put 200 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: you really really on edge. Yeah, and there aren't, right, 201 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: there are so many movies that that play with that. Um. 202 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: I really liked your next Yeah, that's a good twist 203 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: on The Final Girl for sure. Yes, that movie made me. 204 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: I had very low expectations for some reason going into it, 205 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: but I found it a very pleasurable kind of slasher reflick. Yeah. Um, 206 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: but also right, like going back, like to the dinner 207 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: scene in Beetlejuice with the shrimp cocktail coming to life 208 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: and yeah, and forced dancing. I feel like any dancing 209 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: that I'm doing at a party is more or less forced, 210 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: So you're right. I needed to re examine that scene 211 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: as like a dinner party gone wrong instead of just like, 212 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: oh this is funny, okay, okay uh. Going off of that, 213 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: one of the other ones I listed, which is I 214 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: feel like we're kind of debtailing these two themes. But 215 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: the tea and mid some are um, not knowing what's 216 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: in your food again, but also this kind of dinner 217 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: party expectations. You're not sure what is the protocol, what 218 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: you should do? Yeah, well, I mean that's definitely mushrooms 219 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: like what's in the tea and other things later Oh 220 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: yeah yeah um, but yeah, that idea that it's not 221 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: always it's yeah, it's not always straightforward. But then I 222 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: was also thinking about other anxieties about the table situations 223 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: like um. In a couple of my my favorite modern 224 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: horror films, Hereditary and The Witch, both of those films 225 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: feature incredibly tense scenes at the dinner table because they're 226 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be this place of famili right, familial warmth 227 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and coming together, and it gives such a good platform 228 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: to have. I mean, nothing really directly, uh supernatural happens 229 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: in either of those movies directly at the dinner table, 230 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: but it's still two of the most upsetting scenes. And 231 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: those two extremely upsetting films. Yeah, yeah, And I think 232 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: that's also something as I've grown older, UM have noticed 233 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: about things like holidays or whatever, where there you know, 234 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: I do have I enjoy a good hanging out in celebration, 235 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: but there are all these tensions around them, and a 236 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: lot of stuff does come out over the dinner table. Um. 237 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's one of those things where we've 238 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: been talking about it more as our political divide has 239 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: become worse and worse. But like, you know, that dinner 240 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: table's risky place because you're all trying to gather cool 241 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: but who's gonna say what? Like what's going to set 242 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: someone off? Like what if you know, and then like 243 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: what kind of personal histories are going to come into it? Yeah, gosh, 244 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I so we a lot of these. We want to 245 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: come back and do full episodes on. I think that 246 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: like the whole history of like the dinner table and 247 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: then just the dinner tables use and the kinds of 248 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: scenes would be great. Um. Also, I did say there 249 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: has been a rise of mushroom horror that I have. 250 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,959 Speaker 1: I think it's the last of us started it, but 251 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: it's everywhere. Now, Okay, I have a whole list I 252 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: can send you. Okay, I you're you're wider watched than 253 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: than than I. So wow, I got a whole list. 254 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: And then also, uh, kind of going along a lot 255 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: of this, there's this short story I read. I wonder 256 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: if you have any short story like this, Lauren. I 257 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: read it in ninth grade. It was called Lose Now, 258 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: Pay Later, and just very shortly like it was basically 259 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: it was very nineties. It was about like a fro 260 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: yo place that was not what it seems. The froo 261 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: was the best thing you've ever had in your life. Um. 262 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: And then it was coupled with this everybody was eating 263 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: so much froyo. They were getting all this weight, so 264 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: next door this like booth opened up. We could lose weight, 265 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: and everybody was so excited about they didn't question it. 266 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: And then it was um, which is also related to 267 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: an eighties movie called The Stuff. But there is a 268 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: whole This impacted me so much, Lauren, there's a whole 269 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: stuff Mom never told you. If you want to check 270 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: it out, that's great. Um, but that kind of whole 271 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: idea to you of just there's not knowing what's in 272 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: your food, and then there's purposefully not looking into what's 273 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: in your food. Oh m hm oh no, yes, yes, es, yes, 274 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: he said the things the horror movies give us all 275 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: these thoughts. I love it, I love it. Oh yeah. 276 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh and now I'm thinking about like the Buffy episode 277 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: Double Meat Palace, Yes, yes, which we talked about before, 278 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and um and the Supernatural episode with the 279 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: Turducan burger. See it tastes so good you don't want 280 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: to look into it, but maybe you should look. Maybe 281 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: you should. Well this has been a delight for us, yes, yes, 282 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: and hopefully a fun preview of some stuff that maybe 283 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: to come. So if if y'all have any emotions about 284 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: any of these ideas, if you're like, yes, let us 285 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: continue spooky season. Spooky season is all year, uh and 286 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: need to know more about any of these immediately right 287 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: in yes? And also if you did any fun Halloween meals, 288 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, parties, drinks, yeah, the whole thing. Yeah, costume, 289 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: if your pets were in costumes, if your pets were 290 00:19:52,800 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: in costumes, as food, especially as food, but but just yeah, yeah, 291 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: we just want more pictures of your pets, not in 292 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the creepy way. Promise. Yes, you can email us at 293 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: hello at savor pod dot com. 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