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Speaker 1: hope I got that name right. I've been practicing that
Speaker 1: thing all day, O Joe Nwosu. But first, first, first thing. First,
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny, Bad damn. I guess people that many people
Speaker 1: didn't know boycotts. We pollt on show. Bad Bunny delivered
Speaker 1: the most watched Super Bowl halftime show at all time.
Speaker 1: The show drew one hundred and thirty five million viewers,
Speaker 1: surpassing Kendrick's record Rock Nation super Bowl viewership. Since he's
Speaker 1: taken over, I guess that's twenty twenty. He did one
Speaker 1: hundred and three million in twenty twenty ninety six point
Speaker 1: seventy twenty twenty one, one O three point four in
Speaker 1: twenty two one twenty one, Rihanna in twenty three, one,
Speaker 1: twenty three point four in twenty four, Kendrick did one,
Speaker 1: thirty three point five in twenty five, hand coming over
Speaker 1: the top by almost two million views. Bad buddy, body
Speaker 1: do go ahead, O Joe Hey.
Speaker 3: Well one thing.
Speaker 4: One thing I can say is a lot of people
Speaker 4: will complain and the percentage of people that didn't enjoy,
Speaker 4: the percentage of people that didn't like it, the percentage
Speaker 4: of people that were WI wrote I think pieces that
Speaker 4: had huge dialogues on theyir displeasure with a halftime show
Speaker 4: and complaining about oh it was in Spanish, I didn't
Speaker 4: know what was going on. It's a very small percentage.
Speaker 4: It's a very small percentage. What people have to understand
Speaker 4: is that the NFL listener is trying to grow. They're
Speaker 4: trying to grow a consumer market outside of Jesse, United
Speaker 4: States state.
Speaker 3: They want to grow globally. That is the only way
Speaker 3: growing Glow.
Speaker 4: Believe that you cantinue continue to push the boundaries include
Speaker 4: cultural diversity and I think they're doing a really good
Speaker 4: job at it. And if you think about it, we've
Speaker 4: given a different halftime performer almost to every different genre
Speaker 4: of music. So whatever you do at this point, I
Speaker 4: think people still will not be happy. They're gonna always
Speaker 4: complain about something. You will never be able to please everybody.
Speaker 4: So I like the direction that the NFL is going
Speaker 4: with the halftime shows and touching each in different genre
Speaker 4: of music and giving them their opportunity to have that
Speaker 4: big state.
Speaker 1: And I think his interview on Apple Music is the
Speaker 1: most watched interview on that format.
Speaker 2: I think he did. He's sixty eight million in county.
Speaker 1: But it's always funny the people that boycott, but they
Speaker 1: didn't tell nobody to boycott them when they perform. I
Speaker 1: know a guy to talking about he had his own
Speaker 1: thing at another venue, but did you remember when he
Speaker 1: ain't nobody boycott. We ain't gonna get into that old show.
Speaker 1: Let's not, let's not, let's not talk.
Speaker 2: About but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah this at people and they.
Speaker 1: Were talking about we paid five thousand a ticket and
Speaker 1: we paid this and it's like, I come to see Benito.
Speaker 1: I ain't know they call him Benito. I ain't Benito Santiago.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know that was that was
Speaker 1: his name. Bad money. But they're like, we come to
Speaker 1: see Benito and they started speaking Spanish and they were
Speaker 1: so excited. Yeah, they had on their team gear. They
Speaker 1: had on the Seahawks and they had on the Patriots. Somebody,
Speaker 1: I think I saw somebody. His team wasn't even many.
Speaker 1: He said, I came to see bad money. I came
Speaker 1: to see Benito. So right, right, at some point, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not You're not gonna please everybody. When they had Kendrick,
Speaker 1: he wasn't brought him up. When they had Usher, he
Speaker 1: got old songs. When they had Rianna, well she showed
Speaker 1: up pregnant. They had Kendrickcuse me, we had Doctor Dre
Speaker 1: and Snoop and Mary Jay. You're not going to please
Speaker 1: when you got almost four hundred million people in the
Speaker 1: United States, You're going to offend someone. But you know why,
Speaker 1: because people are looking for reasons to get offended. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't like apples, Okay, If I don't like apples,
Speaker 1: that'll just because I like something, that don't mean I
Speaker 1: hate something else. If you like oranges, that don't mean
Speaker 1: you hate apples and bananas, that means you like you
Speaker 1: like man gold.
Speaker 2: That don't mean you hate watermelon and honey.
Speaker 1: Dude. But people get so offended. They're looking for a
Speaker 1: reason to get offended. Oh, this is an American sport.
Speaker 1: This is okay broad and their risings. You like American food,
Speaker 1: but you'll be tearing up some Mexican food. You tamp
Speaker 1: Indian food, you tamp Jamaican food. Now y'all need to
Speaker 1: stop this and stop looking for reasons to get offended.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I ain't no one worried.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what the song was, but I
Speaker 1: was grooving, and the Babel effects and the production was
Speaker 1: over the top, over the top. I love how you
Speaker 1: played to his Hairda Joe Jo. I love the guys
Speaker 1: playing dominoes. I love the sugar cane, I love the
Speaker 1: snow cones, I love I love the ladies in the
Speaker 1: nel some line getting their hair done.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 4: Even if you don't understand the words, huh, you become
Speaker 4: one with the musical movie. Sometimes you go to the
Speaker 4: club ay, sometimes you go to the club bunk. You
Speaker 4: can't even hear what's being you can't even hear what's
Speaker 4: being played, But you become one with the music.
Speaker 3: It's easy to do.
Speaker 4: I think most of the people that work with planning
Speaker 4: saying oh, my goodness, I don't understand what he's saying. Okay,
Speaker 4: if you don't understand what he's saying, just go and
Speaker 4: flow with the beat.
Speaker 2: It's about having the rhythm.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe ay, maybe you don't have rhythm. Maybe that's
Speaker 4: why they're mad, probably because if you got rhythm, all
Speaker 4: you do is you catch the beat and become one
Speaker 4: with the music and have fun.
Speaker 3: That kind of music, it's about a vibe.
Speaker 4: You don't need to understand when you travel to the
Speaker 4: dr when you travel to Spain, when you travel to
Speaker 4: Puerto Rico, when you travel to Brazil, you're not going
Speaker 4: to understand what they're saying. You're not going to understand
Speaker 4: the music, but you you're not understand the words, but
Speaker 4: you become one with the music depending on where you are.
Speaker 4: And people need to understand what the NFL is trying.
Speaker 3: To do globally, not just here. We wanted to be one.
Speaker 4: Of the best sports to watch outside of the US.
Speaker 3: And we're competing with soccer, which is number one outside of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well soccer is the number one in the world
Speaker 1: because more the Europeans play it and more countries play it.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, African nations in European countries they play soccer.
Speaker 2: Really, they don't play a bear.
Speaker 1: And that's why basketball is so big globally because there's
Speaker 1: the Slovenians and the Serbians and they got so many
Speaker 1: different people. But when in football, every once in a while,
Speaker 1: low Joe, you'll get like the gentlemen we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: on tonight. We'll get a few here and there that
Speaker 1: come from Cameroon, ll come from Nigeria. Come from different countries,
Speaker 1: but not to the vast number that soccer, not to
Speaker 1: the vast number.
Speaker 2: That's why baseball they.
Speaker 1: Got the Puerto Ricans, and they got the Dominicans, and
Speaker 1: they got the you know, the Nicaraguans, and they got
Speaker 1: the Japanese, which show hey and these others. So in
Speaker 1: the Panslmania, I look, I've stopped. Look, I've stopped looking
Speaker 1: for things to get offended for. Unless you're speaking directly
Speaker 1: to me, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean some people miserable. Yeah, there's nothing you can
Speaker 3: do about it.
Speaker 4: It's some people are miserable and you have to allow
Speaker 4: them to live their miserable lives where nothing anyone else
Speaker 4: does is going to make them happy. They're going to
Speaker 4: find something wrong. They're gonna nitpick at something, and it's unfortunate.
Speaker 4: That's some of the times that we're in. Now, we're
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six. You know, when we talk about
Speaker 4: cultural diversity, I don't want happen. They don't want culture diversity.
Speaker 4: They don't want what they want. They want them to
Speaker 4: stay here. Everybody stay here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no one else gets opportunities.
Speaker 1: Should supersede yours? What I want to supersede yours. So
Speaker 1: it ain't no diversity. I mean, look, uh, and somehow
Speaker 1: if somebody gets a job, oh they are d d
Speaker 1: e I high. No one has benefited more from d
Speaker 1: E I than white women in America.
Speaker 2: But we ain't gonna have that discussion, gonna have a
Speaker 2: real discussion.
Speaker 3: We can't make it a political show.
Speaker 2: No, we can't.
Speaker 3: We can't do that.
Speaker 2: But they know we.
Speaker 3: Gotta keep we gotta keep it.
Speaker 1: In colleges and Title nine. You they know affirmative action.
Speaker 1: Who's benefited the most? And y'all ay ready to have
Speaker 1: that real conversation, But one day we will.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's look.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know, the hammer and the nail can
Speaker 1: never be a rivalry.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, take your time. I know something good.
Speaker 1: The nail and the hammer. How can they go back
Speaker 1: and forth? We know how it's gonna end. The tree
Speaker 1: will never have a great relationship with a Max. Okay,
Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna move it. But they don't y'all
Speaker 1: want y'all, how does the gazelle get down to have
Speaker 1: a conversation, down to have a conversation with the lion
Speaker 1: or the cheetah?
Speaker 2: How we should we should be able to sit down? Really? Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Boy, you just and you just pulled some gems out
Speaker 3: of no where.
Speaker 2: You hear me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get let me get it, let me
Speaker 3: get a paid time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have a we're gonna have a real
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a real conversation.
Speaker 2: Wow. But they don't chant chant, they don't they know
Speaker 2: what's really going on.
Speaker 3: Oh my fits, I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: I tell you, I got to tell you how to
Speaker 1: treat me, how to talk to me? Uh now I'm good.
Speaker 1: Last week, Jay Glaizer made it clear that Max Crosby
Speaker 1: is done with the Raiders now. Jason Lakin for reports
Speaker 1: that an unnamed general manager claims that Crosby has directly
Speaker 1: communicated his wishes to minority owner Tom Brady. He told
Speaker 1: Tom Brady he will never play for the Raiders again,
Speaker 1: the unnamed GM saying that's a fact. He told him
Speaker 1: he'll retire before he ever played for them again. But
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they're actually going to trade him. Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett said the same thing last year, and we know
Speaker 1: how that ended up. Oh Joe, how do you see
Speaker 1: this situation unfolding?
Speaker 3: Oh Man?
Speaker 4: Understanding what Max Crossey means to the Las Vegas Raiders,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if thing can be rectified at this point.
Speaker 4: Most of the time, when the players get to this
Speaker 4: point like this, where he feels I really can't do
Speaker 4: it anymore, there might be something going on behind the
Speaker 4: scenes internally that we don't know about.
Speaker 3: It's specially for mac Crossey to get to.
Speaker 4: The point to where he is now to even let
Speaker 4: someone outside that building know that I will never play
Speaker 4: here again, especially if those words have been echoed to
Speaker 4: that of the greatest of all time, Tom Brady. He's
Speaker 4: not he's not really playing, especially similar like Mack Crosby,
Speaker 4: who wants an opportunity to win, and understanding that being
Speaker 4: at the Las Vegas Raiders he's not going to have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to win hoping for a move similar to
Speaker 4: that of Dexter Lawrence in general, where he can go
Speaker 4: to a contender and hope that things turn out or
Speaker 4: paning out the way they should, where he can contribute
Speaker 4: on his side of the ball on defense, he can
Speaker 4: be an asset to so many different teams that are
Speaker 4: a piece or two away for MAXI contending and have
Speaker 4: a chance of reaching that end goal out there.
Speaker 1: And what the difference is that the law was unrestricted
Speaker 1: free agent, so he chose where he wanted to go.
Speaker 1: Max Crosby unfortunately, is under contract for another three year,
Speaker 1: three four years, I'm not sure how long how long
Speaker 1: Chatty's contract is four, but he's not in that situation
Speaker 1: and so probably we're gonna want to get him out
Speaker 1: if they are to trade him. The conversations that they're
Speaker 1: having O Joe is that we want to get him
Speaker 1: out of the AFC and we want to get the
Speaker 1: most bang for our buck. Now, who's gonna give us
Speaker 1: the most compensation?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: I understand that sometimes when you have a relationship, a
Speaker 1: good relationship with a team, they'll work to send you
Speaker 1: to a place, maybe to your heart desire, but I'm
Speaker 1: not so sure that's gonna be the case with this situation.
Speaker 1: He's one of your better players. He's if you know,
Speaker 1: I worked with Jason at CBS. Also he's made if
Speaker 1: that's true. And and and uh. Jay Glazer came on
Speaker 1: I Show last year and said last week it said
Speaker 1: Max was was was done with the Raiders, two guys
Speaker 1: I know pretty well. I know Jason a little better
Speaker 1: because I worked with him for a number of years.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, the likelihood of them working with
Speaker 1: him to send them to his ideal setting probably not
Speaker 1: gonna happen.
Speaker 2: O Joe. But I do se Scendario, they're gonna trade him.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put him in the NFC, because I ain't
Speaker 1: really try to see this man in the AFC, And
Speaker 1: I damn sure I'm not gonna trade it within my division.
Speaker 2: That's that's an absolute no.
Speaker 1: Note even though some teams, you know, Kansas City, would
Speaker 1: be more than glad to trade compensation to get him,
Speaker 1: But I don't see that happening. With that being said,
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, because he doesn't have he's not underrestricted, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a choice in the matter.
Speaker 2: Of where he goes. It's just hard. He has.
Speaker 1: He signed a three year, one hundred and sixty million
Speaker 1: dollars contract extensioned in March or twenty five, so he
Speaker 1: got some years on that contract, O Joe.
Speaker 2: So I don't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he does, but you have to you
Speaker 4: have to understand his value. You have to understand his value,
Speaker 4: especially with Kubia coming over and understanding that there are
Speaker 4: so many pieces, so many missing holes, so many questions
Speaker 4: that need answer on that Las Vegas Raiders team that
Speaker 4: I don't think he will have a problem understanding the
Speaker 4: value that is MATC Crosby and allowing him to go elsewhere.
Speaker 3: Even if it's to an AFC team.
Speaker 4: What pieces can I get for someone who is as
Speaker 4: valuable as him at the position and being to continue
Speaker 4: to build for the future. If I couldn't win with you,
Speaker 4: then I have no problem winning without you, And I
Speaker 4: don't get as much.
Speaker 1: I'll lose with you. I can lose without you. I
Speaker 1: get what you're saying, but I think the thing is
Speaker 1: normally teams that are most equipped to give up the
Speaker 1: most are teams, you know, and he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: go from a losing team to a losing situation. But
Speaker 1: I believe the Philadelphia Eagles will have something on the table.
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears will put something on the table. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that. I don't know, considering that they
Speaker 1: just gave Aiden Hutchinson that deal, Jack Campbell's, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they got Jack Campbell done this last offseason
Speaker 1: or they're gonna get him done this offseason. Then you know,
Speaker 1: they got money tied up in Joseph, so they got
Speaker 1: and then you know, oh, Jamiir Gibbs is due a contract.
Speaker 1: You took care of Pina sul You took care of
Speaker 1: Jerry Goff, you took care of James.
Speaker 3: You took care of James.
Speaker 2: But I think me, I think the Bears.
Speaker 1: I think Philly uh would have no problem giving the
Speaker 1: first and the third and maybe a third next year
Speaker 1: because he's that good. He's a he's a he's a
Speaker 1: game altering player. And they don't come around Verry often.
Speaker 1: And I promise you there's no one in the draft
Speaker 1: that's as good as Max Crosby.
Speaker 2: And I don't know who they have.
Speaker 1: I don't know how high, who's rated where on the
Speaker 1: defensive side of football, But I guarantee you there's not
Speaker 1: a guy coming out in the draft that's better than
Speaker 1: Max Crosby will be next year in twenty.
Speaker 3: Six, not not even close.
Speaker 4: Come out of the draft, I mean, please, I mean
Speaker 4: no disrespect to those come out of the draft, but
Speaker 4: there is nothing like Mac Crosey based on the resume
Speaker 4: that you know done so far.
Speaker 3: And can you imagine Max Crosby with a star on
Speaker 3: his helmet?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, who can you imagine Max Crosby with
Speaker 4: a star on his helmet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I mean with him. I mean, he's a game change.
Speaker 1: He changes, He's gonna alter wherever defense he goes. And
Speaker 1: the more talent you have around him, the better he's
Speaker 1: gonna be. You put him in Philly, you put him
Speaker 1: in Chicago, or you put him on the Dallas.
Speaker 2: Uh the rape? Could the Raven put a package together
Speaker 2: or not?
Speaker 1: Now be talking because they need they need a game
Speaker 1: change and they haven't had a game change in a while.
Speaker 4: Hey listen, I know you haven't said it. And one thing,
Speaker 4: we haven't had either over there in the five to
Speaker 4: one to three over there in Cincinnati, yeah, right across
Speaker 4: right right on the river, we haven't.
Speaker 3: Had a game change.
Speaker 4: Do I see them having the money to be able
Speaker 4: to take care of matc crosby understanding how much we
Speaker 4: need on the defensive end as well. We need some
Speaker 4: pieces at one level. I mean either we gonna get
Speaker 4: one of the at the first level or the third level.
Speaker 4: Maybe at the second level, and the first level we
Speaker 4: need we need to impact players that could make a
Speaker 4: difference over there on our team as well. Now that
Speaker 4: the season is done, you can, and you can you
Speaker 4: kind of look at each team and you can see
Speaker 4: what teams need, you know, going forward, especially those that
Speaker 4: already have a quarter back in place to actually give
Speaker 4: you a chance. Most of the time those answers are
Speaker 4: going to be impact players on defense, mostly the officers line.
Speaker 3: If you already have a quarterback or impact.
Speaker 1: Receiver, Buffalo, can Buffalo put a package together. I'm just
Speaker 1: fair because I think the thing, oh Joe, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he wants to win. So who's
Speaker 1: close to winning, who has a quarterback? The situation at
Speaker 1: quarterback is stable enough, that's conducive, that gives them a
Speaker 1: chance to win seven twenty eight until his contracts up.
Speaker 1: You look at Philip obviously, they just won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl last year, so they're equipped. You look at a
Speaker 1: Chicago got to the divisional round. This their young up
Speaker 1: and coming team. I think they're a piece away defensively.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Cowboys, Buffalo quarterback situation, Cincinnati quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: Baltimore quarterback situation.
Speaker 2: So I think there are some.
Speaker 1: Places that that have a quarterback in place, have a
Speaker 1: team that he's gonna instantaneously make make that defense better.
Speaker 1: So just imagine where the team can play with the lead.
Speaker 1: So that's what was so impressive about Miles Garrett. There
Speaker 1: are very few times that his team had to lead.
Speaker 1: He got twenty three sacks and in eighty five percent
Speaker 1: of the time they were not time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he putting up numbers like that.
Speaker 1: They're losing by double digits and he's still getting three,
Speaker 1: four or five sacks in a game. So imagine if
Speaker 1: they got they're in a situation where they play with
Speaker 1: the lead and he can just go hunt the quarterback.
Speaker 3: Just go yeah.
Speaker 1: But definitely, Max Crosby is gonna make someone if they
Speaker 1: traded him. And we're speaking hypothetically because we've heard two
Speaker 1: inside of say that Max Crosby is not gonna be
Speaker 1: playing for the Ravers. We here Jason Luncambre says that
Speaker 1: he's talked to a general manager and that he's relayed
Speaker 1: this message to minority owner Tom Brady that I'm done
Speaker 1: with y'all. He didn't take kindly to being benched. Like
Speaker 1: I've been playing with this bang up me all year.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, y'all want me to sit out.
Speaker 1: I can think from y'all for the next ten years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can think of something too. And obviously them
Speaker 4: continue them mentioning him might be a sign. It might
Speaker 4: be a sign to him. Listen, we don't want you
Speaker 4: to get hurt. We want you to want you to
Speaker 4: sit down. We want you to heal up, to make
Speaker 4: sure that trade value. We're gonna give you what you want.
Speaker 4: You requested it. We're gonna give you what you want.
Speaker 3: I want you stay out. I don't want you to
Speaker 3: get We don't.
Speaker 4: Want to get yourself hurt because we want to get
Speaker 4: as much as we can back for you.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Ooh, that's a good one. That's a good one, especially
Speaker 4: with the way they plan. Now they get that Ferrari
Speaker 4: coming out the garage after being down for a little
Speaker 4: bit with Trevor Lawrence playing.
Speaker 3: Really really good, really good football right now. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that, especially on that defense. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: And so he's going to be looking to go. Like
Speaker 1: I said, he's probably gonna go to one of the
Speaker 1: teams that we mentioned. The question is who's just going
Speaker 1: to give us the most compensation because that's what they need.
Speaker 2: They need.
Speaker 1: They need draft picks, they need draft capital they need
Speaker 1: to build this team. You look at Seattle how they
Speaker 1: built their team a lot a lot of drafted players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go get a Leonard Williams and yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta get a d law to come over in free agency.
Speaker 1: But you drafted Spoon, you drafted Roland, Yeah, Julian Love
Speaker 1: came over in free agent free agency. You get lucky.
Speaker 1: You got really really lucky with Sam Darnold. Because normally
Speaker 1: the guys that win fourteen games, the other team is
Speaker 1: not letting them go. It's just not you drafted JSN.
Speaker 1: You look at the offensive line that they have, they
Speaker 1: drafted K nine. So sometimes you gotta be a little lucky.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is that there are seven
Speaker 1: or eight teams out there that does have the draft
Speaker 1: capital to I think to appease the Raiders. And I
Speaker 1: think of a piece of Max Crosby as well, because
Speaker 1: I mean officials. For me, I do like when when
Speaker 1: great players get an opportunity to compete and see themselves,
Speaker 1: see them on the highest level, just like basketball players.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you want to see a Lebron, you
Speaker 1: want to see Kadi, You want to see Steph compete
Speaker 1: on the highest levels, not be fired and mediocrity.
Speaker 2: So mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Or or or being too loyal to stay in one
Speaker 3: place for a.
Speaker 1: Very well, that was Kevin Garnet. He was loyal to
Speaker 1: the soul and then he realized that, man, I ain't
Speaker 1: winning nothing Dame.
Speaker 4: I think that happened to Dame game. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: staying in Portland, you know, a little too long. So
Speaker 4: I think the Raiders. Look, they got the number one
Speaker 4: pick in the draft.
Speaker 2: Though Joe.
Speaker 1: Many believe they're gonna go for a quarterback. They believe
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Mendoza. It's hard to argue that. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I but they're not a handful of a
Speaker 1: but a handful of quarterbacks that's you know, I think
Speaker 1: that are game changers. But we'll see right, all right,
Speaker 1: we got a bad man, specially you guess joining us.
Speaker 1: He had a pick six, took it to the house. O,
Speaker 1: China wasn't a wo suit?
Speaker 2: Did I get it right? I've been trying to say
Speaker 2: this thing all because I'm like, hold on, I wonder
Speaker 2: at the end is silent? Did?
Speaker 1: I had to go back and listen to the I
Speaker 1: listened to the the TV copy when Mike Jurko on
Speaker 1: the call, but he said the first name, so damn fast.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, damn, I get WOA suit. But what's
Speaker 1: the first name? So China was whoa?
Speaker 3: So hey, you won before? You won before?
Speaker 4: So I need to take this moment so I can
Speaker 4: get a better a better understanding what it feels like.
Speaker 3: Well, China, you finally won a super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Unk you won multiple super Bowls, so you know what
Speaker 4: that feeling is already like for You need to let
Speaker 4: me live vicariously through you and give me an explanation.
Speaker 4: We all come from different backgrounds, we all got to
Speaker 4: our end go in different ways. What does it finally
Speaker 4: feel like to understand all the work you've put in
Speaker 4: whenever you started playing football? You read the Promised Land,
Speaker 4: the Plateau, the highest of them all, the biggest game.
Speaker 3: And you finally went one.
Speaker 4: Let tell me what that feels like as if I'm
Speaker 4: a little kid, because I done played twelve thirteen some years,
Speaker 4: but I've never ever had the opportunity to had that
Speaker 4: feeling that you have me right now.
Speaker 3: So just just give.
Speaker 2: It to me growing up?
Speaker 3: My bad?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, my bad. Just hey, let's let's go
Speaker 1: rewind that. We're gonna rewind that.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got it, I got it.
Speaker 4: I got it bad, my bad, give it, give it
Speaker 4: to me and give it to it straight straight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: That's a good one.
Speaker 2: My bad.
Speaker 5: Well, to be honest with you, man, like, honestly, I'm
Speaker 5: not feeling how I thought I was gonna feel, just
Speaker 5: if I'm being honest with you, like real, yeah, it's
Speaker 5: like I don't know. The coaches have us wired in
Speaker 5: a way to where like every game is just like
Speaker 5: another game, right going out there and play it. That's
Speaker 5: truly how it felt like it was just another game
Speaker 5: to us, Like we expect to win, We expect to
Speaker 5: go into every match like you know, we're gonna dominate
Speaker 5: these guys, and you know it's all said and done.
Speaker 5: It's like okay, Like what's next you know, we got
Speaker 5: another game. That's just how it felt. But I'm sure
Speaker 5: like once I see that, yeah, different. But right now,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I just don't feel like how I
Speaker 5: thought I was feeling.
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy, that's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not the first guy that I that
Speaker 1: I've heard say that. But I think the thing for
Speaker 1: me is that everything as an individual, like Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to make the Pro Bowl. Oh y'all want to
Speaker 1: lead the team, or I want to lead the league,
Speaker 1: or I want to be an All Pro. That's an
Speaker 1: individual goal, but only one team. You know, there are
Speaker 1: four guys that make the Pro Bowl for a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: there are three or three defensive linemen that make the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. As a d lineman, but that can only
Speaker 1: be one Super Bowl champ. That means for the year,
Speaker 1: you get the basket, all the glory. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: you said something very interesting, you like, the coach has
Speaker 1: us wired that we take one game at a time, and.
Speaker 2: You're like, okay, what's next. But this was the culm nation.
Speaker 1: So going into the week you're like, okay, you watching
Speaker 1: them on tape because the difference is like you know,
Speaker 1: you play a regular season game, you watch four games,
Speaker 1: you watch the last four games then he played. But
Speaker 1: when you watch this team, you watch everything, you go
Speaker 1: back from week one, you go to the playoffs. They
Speaker 1: sprinkled a little preseason in there, and so you guys
Speaker 1: were locked in from the jump. I mean, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw that last quarter out because y'all was and y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all like, okay, let's not get regulars to do anything
Speaker 1: like that. And they got some the cheap yardist. He
Speaker 1: threw for the most yards of the single quarter and
Speaker 1: anybody in the history of the game. And the game
Speaker 1: was a blowout. So why how were you guys so
Speaker 1: able to get locked in and just basically have a
Speaker 1: bead on everything they were doing?
Speaker 5: Man, shout out to coach Mike Man. He's like a
Speaker 5: nerd when it comes to this football stuff. Man, he's
Speaker 5: in the lab, man studying hard. He's making sure we're
Speaker 5: in the right you know, the right calls.
Speaker 6: He's preparing.
Speaker 5: He's got an assistant coaches, you know, making sure we
Speaker 5: know what's going on. We're on the game plan. We
Speaker 5: study and every day we watching films. We have about
Speaker 5: two three four menutes a day were just so locked in.
Speaker 5: We just communicat we're talking and just the overall, just
Speaker 5: the whole team is just buying into what was going on.
Speaker 5: We realized what was that stake. It was a super Bowl,
Speaker 5: so everybody else was locked in. Man, we just had
Speaker 5: one mission and one goal over you accomplished it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, with with that goal to accomplish, did you
Speaker 4: expect to dominate the game the way you dominated it defensively?
Speaker 4: Because defensively, you guys won that game obviously offensive Kenneth
Speaker 4: Walker keeping that balance when you need to throw you through.
Speaker 4: But because you ran the ball so well, simply you
Speaker 4: were able to control most of the game defensively. You watch,
Speaker 4: obviously you're going in what you watch film, You see
Speaker 4: how the pagers look you so how they look in
Speaker 4: the playoffs, You see how they looked in the regular season,
Speaker 4: and you take bits and pieces of what you're going
Speaker 4: to get based on their tendencies. Dude, bro, you dominate
Speaker 4: the whole game to the point where some people are
Speaker 4: saying the game was a snooze fast not understanding, No, this.
Speaker 3: Is this is a defensive game. The defense control of
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they got a great defense over there. They got
Speaker 5: a lot of players over there, their their dB number zero.
Speaker 5: He was playing phenomenal. Milton Williams. They made plays, number
Speaker 5: thirty three, he made plays. They was just making plays.
Speaker 5: But we knew, we kind of knew going into this
Speaker 5: week that you know, we wanted to show that he
Speaker 5: was gonna be the best defense in the world, which
Speaker 5: we did, and we had our mindset made up that
Speaker 5: we're not gonna let these guys come out here and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, do what they did to all these other teams.
Speaker 5: We know, get after Drake, may we kill their enery,
Speaker 5: which is him. They got nothing left, and we made
Speaker 5: sure we made that happen.
Speaker 1: When I look at you guys on defensive, you're not
Speaker 1: that complex. Y'all play except y'all play quarters coverage. You'll
Speaker 1: keep the safety back and y'all you say you're not
Speaker 1: running the football, and so we won't have to drop
Speaker 1: a safety down because when I look, yeah, you show
Speaker 1: something now, y'all brought a lot of slot blissed Spoon.
Speaker 2: You normally see Spoon covering.
Speaker 1: Y'all saw something on tape because y'all brought Spoon a
Speaker 1: little bit more than I'm used to seeing him now.
Speaker 2: Normally that's a warring.
Speaker 1: He normally comes on, but this time he was back
Speaker 1: and Spoon was coming. What did y'all see the like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we can catch him with the slot.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you just gotta switch it up.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure they go back and they do
Speaker 5: their Stufuddy, they see we bring Nick a lot with
Speaker 5: a lot of pressures. So Mike said, you know, guess what,
Speaker 5: We're gonna bring spoon and spoons a great blissed quick.
Speaker 5: Spoon is fast man. He can make lineman mens. He
Speaker 5: can you then he can just get to the quarterback
Speaker 5: and hurry the same thing with Nick. And so Mike
Speaker 5: just saw that he switched it up. Nick's a great blitzer,
Speaker 5: but you know, we switch it up with the spoon,
Speaker 5: and he made play time.
Speaker 1: He tied those blitz's perfect because when you go, I
Speaker 1: mean he hit it on a dead run. Every time
Speaker 1: when they snapped the ball, he was on a dead run.
Speaker 1: And it's hard because, like you said, they so small.
Speaker 1: Big lineman used to blocking guys like your feel And
Speaker 1: so when you get on dB and he doing all
Speaker 1: this right here, they got no chance.
Speaker 2: They got no chance.
Speaker 4: So hey, hey, one thing I want to say, did
Speaker 4: coach without you being disrespectful to your opponents, did coach?
Speaker 3: Most of the time you going to a gay plank.
Speaker 4: The game plan you going to a game most of
Speaker 4: the time, you want to recognize who the fish is
Speaker 4: and you draw a circle around.
Speaker 3: The fish's head. The fish is the week league.
Speaker 4: Obviously you have five people in the offensive line, but there's
Speaker 4: always one week link. Based on the game we saw
Speaker 4: it was three fish and it started from the center
Speaker 4: going all the way to the left. Was it was
Speaker 4: that address before the game started, based on what you
Speaker 4: saw from their office line played throughout the week.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, but instead of fish we call it.
Speaker 5: We call it so we knew from the center all
Speaker 5: the way to the to the their left. All right,
Speaker 5: the two rookies we gotta we gotta take advantage of right, Okay,
Speaker 5: you're down the road, they'll be you know, good players
Speaker 5: will developed. But going into this game, we couldn't let
Speaker 5: that slide.
Speaker 1: We get and the thing when you get a push,
Speaker 1: you don't let him off the hook. And I saw
Speaker 1: because they ended up putting d law d Laud. Normally
Speaker 1: Russians on the office offensive right side the defensive left
Speaker 1: side there like d lost and let me get some
Speaker 1: of this man, y'all over there.
Speaker 2: Don't even bite me, a young fellow.
Speaker 1: But when Spoon came on that blitz and you were
Speaker 1: right there because they made the mistakes because Spoon got
Speaker 1: through the guy block, you is Spoon just closed so
Speaker 1: quick because he was getting ready to throw, and you
Speaker 1: were Johnny on the spot. So when you see Spood
Speaker 1: hit his arm and the balls up in there, what's
Speaker 1: going through your mind?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: I just just reacting. Honestly, I didn't even think. I
Speaker 5: just caught the ball and just took off running. Look
Speaker 5: left and right. Hope I ain't get caught on dB.
Speaker 2: All was good.
Speaker 6: I was out of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you gotta think like he did it
Speaker 3: feel like you was running it?
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, did it feel like he was
Speaker 4: running this little motion like you're running a quick saying
Speaker 4: even though nobody was around you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's weird because that was my first time like
Speaker 5: being in that position, like catching it like you received right,
Speaker 5: you gotta do it all the time. But me, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: this is how it is. I'm just going ahead and
Speaker 5: not fall front out of bounds. Let me not do
Speaker 5: something you ain't have no celebration set up you. I
Speaker 5: mean you got to have a celebration.
Speaker 1: Like, man, if I get a scooping score, I get
Speaker 1: a pick six, I get something, I gotta do something.
Speaker 5: You ain't have nothing playing or being from Los Angeles,
Speaker 5: I usually hit my squabble. I'm sure you guys heard
Speaker 5: that before the scribble.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, things were just moving so fast, and I was like, man,
Speaker 5: let me just celebrate with my teammates and just you know,
Speaker 5: because we got to go back on defense again, so.
Speaker 1: You guys, doesn't look I was I was thinking like, man,
Speaker 1: they might not score. This might be a situation. So
Speaker 1: because first half, nothing, third, I mean basically through three quarters,
Speaker 1: and then did it dawn on you at any point
Speaker 1: in time say you know what, man, we might shut
Speaker 1: these guys out. Hey guys, man, let's see if we
Speaker 1: can push this shut out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly what we're saying on sidelines, like yo,
Speaker 5: keep that goose sagging up there.
Speaker 6: Don't let them score. Don't let them score.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: They they was able to move down the field. They
Speaker 6: got that.
Speaker 5: Bomb on to Mac to Mac Collins, and they got
Speaker 5: that scrambled pass to Stevenson coming out in the gold
Speaker 5: Line area. But we tried, man, we really tried to
Speaker 5: push that shut out. That would have been a great
Speaker 5: accomplishment of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And plus when you think about Seattle, obviously the Legion
Speaker 1: of Boot. Uh, you know you got Shearm and you
Speaker 1: got Earl Thomas, and you got those guys be waged
Speaker 1: and you got that. But you guys are establishing a
Speaker 1: Danny on your own. Yeah, everybody's gonna remember a historic defense.
Speaker 1: They will get remembered. But you started something on your
Speaker 1: guys own. You call you GUYSLF what's thismob the dark Side?
Speaker 6: Uh, the dark Side?
Speaker 3: Yeah, dark said, I'm a part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just something that we just try to bring,
Speaker 5: you know, our own identity. Of course, we respect the
Speaker 5: Legion of Boom and what they've done, so we just
Speaker 5: kind of try to, you know, integrate our own way
Speaker 5: of life, our own thing MOB which stands for Mission
Speaker 5: over BS and something on the team came up with and.
Speaker 6: It's something that stuck.
Speaker 5: It's like our creed, something that we made by and
Speaker 5: the Dark Side is just something that the defense is
Speaker 5: just incorporated and something we just built on.
Speaker 1: I look at you guys get Ernest Jones. Ernest Jones
Speaker 1: was traded like twice in a single season. You get
Speaker 1: big Leonard Williams, yourself, you come over from the Chargers.
Speaker 2: When you look at.
Speaker 1: This team and how you guys Dlaw came over in previously,
Speaker 1: and you look at how this team is instructed, you
Speaker 1: guys are built.
Speaker 2: You guys are built. That that doesn't guarantee you because
Speaker 2: you know, every year is different.
Speaker 1: Because we said the same thing about the Eagles, that
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna be back, and boy, look out
Speaker 1: the blad YadA YadA a lot. It's gonna be different
Speaker 1: because everybody's gonna break your guys down there. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: look they like to keep them safe. This back, we've
Speaker 1: got to run the football. So it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: different year. But the guys, the way you're constructed, you
Speaker 1: guys are built the last you got a young football team,
Speaker 1: you got a hungry coach, and I think you got
Speaker 1: a group of hungry young men. What's your mindset going
Speaker 1: into the offseason, because I'm sure you need some time
Speaker 1: of waid.
Speaker 2: It's been a.
Speaker 1: Grind for five months, six months, it's been a grind.
Speaker 1: You want to get away from it. But when when
Speaker 1: will you start getting in back into it and when
Speaker 1: will you start like, okay, start getting into the group chat,
Speaker 1: start talking to the guys.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the plan for next season?
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you said, you definitely want to get away.
Speaker 5: It's been a long season. This is my first time
Speaker 5: playing this long. It's everybody's first time really playing this
Speaker 5: long except for a couple guys Coop and EJ. But
Speaker 5: you definitely relaxed in our bodies right, and it starts
Speaker 5: with OTAs because that's where it started for us last year.
Speaker 5: You know, we made up that that identity that we
Speaker 5: want to starting O t A's and build who we are.
Speaker 5: Start that brotherhood that that creed, that togetherness, that camaraderie
Speaker 5: that we build all starts in O t A's offseason workouts,
Speaker 5: everybody showing up being there for each other, and that's
Speaker 5: where we start to build this thing for next year.
Speaker 1: He had an unbelievable game, Zack Pick took it to
Speaker 1: the house. Got so excited. You got a celebration World
Speaker 1: chap Seahawks for gentle NUWOSU enjoy it. That ring is
Speaker 1: gonna be something crazy because it seems like every year
Speaker 1: your goal is the top from the previous year. You
Speaker 1: saw what the Eagles look back. I'm sure Jason, Jason
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills is on speed down because I know the Hey, God,
Speaker 1: ring might be this side, right, he might be.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna be able to lift
Speaker 1: your hand to hold that big old piece of rock.
Speaker 6: I got a question now, Yeah, yellow gold or white diamonds?
Speaker 2: White?
Speaker 3: White, white? It is clean.
Speaker 2: It's something about that white. It's something about that white gold.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: Okay, we was designed that the leaders on the on
Speaker 6: the team that we should go with. But I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go by Youah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that white is gonna beautiful.
Speaker 4: Listen, I never want to ring as someone that as
Speaker 4: is that's somewhat of a jewey jewelry connoisseur.
Speaker 3: It's gonna it's gonna stand out.
Speaker 2: Well. Congratulations man, and enjoy.
Speaker 1: If you get an opportunity, well, your guys are probably
Speaker 1: always you guys are back in Seattle. Not right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: got back. You have an exit? Did you have an
Speaker 1: exit today or is it tomorrow? Okay, all right, if
Speaker 1: you get an opportunity to e j tell him come
Speaker 1: back and join us. Because he told us you win
Speaker 1: the Bowl, you're gonna come back, so we expect you
Speaker 1: come back for sure.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Back.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, great job, great season, continue success, my brother, thanks Fell,
Speaker 1: appreciate you.
Speaker 4: You know what I think, you know, I think a
Speaker 4: lot of people don't realize, is you look at some
Speaker 4: of the some of the some of the sports figures
Speaker 4: that we've had on the show, or some of the
Speaker 4: people that we have in the show in general.
Speaker 3: You understand, you do?
Speaker 4: You see if you do your homework, chat see the
Speaker 4: luck and the success that everyone that has come on
Speaker 4: the show in their respective crafts. And I'm not saying
Speaker 4: it's because they came on Nightcap. I'm just saying maybe
Speaker 4: it's some type of coincidence. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist,
Speaker 4: but everyone that comes in the show has some type
Speaker 4: of success in whatever it is that they're doing in life.
Speaker 3: And I just find that, like, you know, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Think everybody came on. I think the team at least
Speaker 2: made the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, except except.
Speaker 2: Thornton came on and didn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But you look at Jalen Johnson and the and the
Speaker 1: what do you call them, they made the playoffs, the Bears,
Speaker 1: Lennard Williams came on.
Speaker 2: EJ came on.
Speaker 1: Uh uh, the guy that plays opposite the Verse or
Speaker 1: the Rams, he came on. So yeah, you come on.
Speaker 1: No guarantee, but they're a great probability in all likelihood. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback to the roster, and rumors are first
Speaker 1: Cousins Kirk Cousins could be back in Minnesota. The Falcons
Speaker 1: are expected to cut Cousins before the new league year
Speaker 1: begins in March. Ojo, do you want to see Cousins
Speaker 1: back in Minnesota?
Speaker 4: I think it would be dope. I think it would
Speaker 4: be great. I think it'd'd be great for Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Obviously I had appearance with Justin Jefferson with with Lowe's
Speaker 4: and San Francisco before before I got home, and the
Speaker 4: news had already broke, the rumors that already broke a
Speaker 4: across the ticker on ESPN about them the Falcons releasing
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins. At some point and I asked at JJ,
Speaker 4: you know, how would you feel about that. Listen, the
Speaker 4: more people in the quarterback room, the marrier, you know,
Speaker 4: having that veteran presence would be good. J. J.
Speaker 2: McCarthy out.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously I know that because we know what
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson was able to do with Kirk Cousins. We
Speaker 4: know Kirk Cousins at the Ham at that quarterback was
Speaker 4: this who already knows that offense. You know what the
Speaker 4: number is gonna look like during the regular season, you know,
Speaker 4: you know what they.
Speaker 2: Gonna be like.
Speaker 1: Might sojoin the proseason, but JJ will have one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen catches, sixteen.
Speaker 4: Seventeen, sixteen hundred, Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely, So with
Speaker 4: him with with with JJ understanding that and really being
Speaker 4: PC with his answer to me, he was he was,
Speaker 4: he was cheering for both quarterbacks. And if Kirk Cousins
Speaker 4: has the opportunity to come back, listen, more quarterbacks in
Speaker 4: the quarterback room, the better for us as a team collectively.
Speaker 4: But I mean, I think it's cool. I think it
Speaker 4: makes the most sense. It's a it's an offense that
Speaker 4: Kirk is familiar with. You saying he might be J. J.
Speaker 4: McCarthy out, Let's say he doesn't be. J. J. McCarthy out.
Speaker 4: It's a good veteran presence to have in that in
Speaker 4: that locker room, and if JJ starts playing bad, they
Speaker 4: won't have any problem. They won't have any issues, you know,
Speaker 4: making that switch and making that change at any point
Speaker 4: if they feel they have an opportunity to can to contend.
Speaker 1: And maybe one of the reasons they moved on from
Speaker 1: Donald they knew Donnad would beat him out. O Joe,
Speaker 1: if I bring a veteran in, oh, a veteran in,
Speaker 1: I got to bring one that can't win the job.
Speaker 2: Yeah. If I bring a veteran in oo and he good?
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't, O Joe. I didn't like this signing from
Speaker 1: Atlanta from day one. I didn't know, and I said it.
Speaker 4: I said, Oh, Joe, the best they needed, they needed
Speaker 4: security blanket.
Speaker 1: I'm saying for Atlanta, oh what they had, what they
Speaker 1: had to sign him for coming off that injury. I said,
Speaker 1: the best you could possibly hope for, you hoping that
Speaker 1: the man gives you two years. But what if he
Speaker 1: only gives you one and then you go draft a
Speaker 1: quarterback that high. You drafted a quarterback that already had
Speaker 1: multiple injuries.
Speaker 2: I don't. It didn't make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: And Matt Ryan's it didn't make he was noncamental to
Speaker 1: Pennick Junior, like, well, you know, hey, we know I
Speaker 1: see him up there all the time. I'm in you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in the building often, and and and and I
Speaker 1: know he's working hard. That wasn't no commitment. That didn't
Speaker 1: know yet he's our quarterback.
Speaker 4: But you all still have to understand Matt Ryan knows
Speaker 4: what you need. Matt quarter he's a he's a yeah,
Speaker 4: he's an evaluator of talent. He knows what it's supposed
Speaker 4: to look like, and he knows what you need to
Speaker 4: get over the hump. And obviously not winning a Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: but going to one.
Speaker 2: Twenty eight three lead, all they had to do was
Speaker 2: run the football. Run the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that wasn't That wasn't his fault. That wouldn't There
Speaker 3: wasn't much he could do in that situation because he wouldn't.
Speaker 1: If I got a twenty eight three lead. There is
Speaker 1: no way in hell the team that has three have
Speaker 1: more rush A Temps in the second half than me.
Speaker 2: Me let that sink in the team.
Speaker 1: That's losing twenty eight three got more Russia teamps than
Speaker 1: the team winning twenty eight three.
Speaker 2: Make it make sense.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: But I tell you what, who didn't make that mistake?
Speaker 1: Clint Koby can't make that mistake, Diddy, I'll give damn
Speaker 1: you a I understand. I'm sorry, Hey, okay, down, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you lost three yards, but we go head it
Speaker 1: to your gain. Yeah, exactly because I've got to because
Speaker 1: that's time t tick, because you throw it incomplete closs
Speaker 1: off the clock. If I run the ball, if I
Speaker 1: get one first down on yo, I'm gonna take damn
Speaker 1: near three minutes off the clock with one first down.
Speaker 2: Don't let me get two or three. And that's all
Speaker 2: they needed to do.
Speaker 1: What Hey, that happened many many years ago. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely think the Vikers the viculum of kicking themselves.
Speaker 1: They saw Sam Donald. Now that's not to say Sam
Speaker 1: Donald would have led them, I'm not saying that, but Sam.
Speaker 2: Donald was better than what you had.
Speaker 1: You make the I believe you make the playoffs with
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and now with that, you take Sam Donald
Speaker 1: away from the Seahawks. Now they've got to go in
Speaker 1: a different direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So not only do I build I build myself up,
Speaker 1: O Joe, I weakened an opponent because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, ND that what I'm trying to do. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm trying to win. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: in court. I'm yes, I'm trying to. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make a very compelling argument from my client. But I'm
Speaker 1: also trying to punch holes in the prosecution or the defense.
Speaker 2: Right, So if I can do two things, I'm cool.
Speaker 2: I got it. You don't mm hmm.
Speaker 3: You know what I think.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they would have won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 4: but I think offensively that defense over there in Minnesota
Speaker 4: was good enough, especially with Brian Floyes calling that defense.
Speaker 3: He didn't have the legion, he didn't have the legion
Speaker 3: of Boom, he didn't have the.
Speaker 4: Dark side similar to that of the Seattle Seahawks and
Speaker 4: the and the defense they have.
Speaker 3: But the pieces that he did have, he always put
Speaker 3: him in the right.
Speaker 1: They can get off the quarterback now that no there
Speaker 1: they were. They weren't as formidable as the Seahawks, but
Speaker 1: with a different quarterback now maybe they're playing more this.
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about it.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald tied for the league league in interceptions, I
Speaker 1: mean for turnovers. So imagine if they didn't have to
Speaker 1: defend as much as they had to defend.
Speaker 2: They had to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you saw him yesterday, you saw them in the postseason.
Speaker 1: I think they're the first team in postseason history to
Speaker 1: go the entire postseason, a minimum of three games and
Speaker 1: not turn the ball over.
Speaker 4: Hey, and that that that that was the issue. That's
Speaker 4: all we wanted to know, though, Can he do it?
Speaker 4: Can he keep the ball out of the other team's hand?
Speaker 4: And that's my only concern they would have. They would
Speaker 4: have an opportunity.
Speaker 2: They got it.
Speaker 1: Look, there are a handful of teams. I look at Houston,
Speaker 1: I look at Seattle, and I look at the Broncos.
Speaker 1: They had defenses that could win you a game. All
Speaker 1: I need the offense to do, not to do is
Speaker 1: if it up. You go back and look at Houston.
Speaker 1: What did the offense do in New England?
Speaker 2: It up up? What did the offense for the Broncos
Speaker 2: do in Denver? If it up?
Speaker 1: Seattle's offense didn't monk it up for the defense and
Speaker 1: they're the world champ for a reason. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: what you have. That's compromentary football. They didn't put the
Speaker 1: ball on the ground, they didn't give, they didn't give
Speaker 1: put their defense and harms way oh Yo, giving them
Speaker 1: short feels they didn't give Scooper scores pick sixes and okay,
Speaker 1: good luck driving the ball seventy five eighty yards on
Speaker 1: this defense. You might get one. But if you think
Speaker 1: you about to make a living going twelve thirteen plays,
Speaker 1: taking seven to eight minutes off.
Speaker 2: The clock, okay, live me know how didn't work out
Speaker 2: for you at end of the.
Speaker 3: Game, not having not against that defense.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 1: But uh, I can see Cousins going back. I don't
Speaker 1: know where he's gonna live. I don't even I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm assuming he's from Michigan. He went to Michigan State,
Speaker 1: so I'm assuming he's from somewhere Michigan in the Midwest.
Speaker 2: He seems more of.
Speaker 1: A Minnesota Michigan type of guy as opposed to it
Speaker 1: Atlanta type of a guy. Uh, but I understood Minnesota
Speaker 1: moving on because he towards a he towards Achilles.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, I can't give you.
Speaker 1: I mean, Atlanta basically gave him fifty million dollars coming
Speaker 1: off on the tour. A guy that's non mobile, that's
Speaker 1: coming off an achilles injury.
Speaker 4: No, hey, hold on, and now is it he's a
Speaker 4: year removed from Yeah, another year removed from Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he'll be that, he'll be that.
Speaker 2: He's familiar.
Speaker 1: He's spent what three four years in that system with
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connor, so he knows it, you know, just unlearned,
Speaker 1: you know, the two years that he was in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and learned that won't take long because I remember when
Speaker 1: I went to Baltimore having to learn a new system.
Speaker 1: When I got back to Denver, Oh Joe, in like
Speaker 1: three or two or three days, I'm good. I was
Speaker 1: absolutely good. But uh, Minnesota, they can use a vetter.
Speaker 1: You said that he was a veteran presence. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, J. J. McCarthy's gonna have
Speaker 1: to become something oyo because you gave him got to
Speaker 1: It's not like, say, oyo, he got four million dollars
Speaker 1: in incentives, Oh Joe, you could have tied. You could
Speaker 1: put that Minnesota could have gave those same incentives. You
Speaker 1: could have gave him those same incentives. If Sam Donald
Speaker 1: it's thirty three, maybe I could give Sam Donald probably
Speaker 1: only like twenty six, twenty seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think that they didn't want to keep
Speaker 4: him on because they knew he wasn't gonna be He
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna beat Sam out. It wasn't gonna make no sense.
Speaker 4: It wasn't gonna make no sense, especially coming off the season.
Speaker 4: He just had no Let's go ahead and get rid
Speaker 4: of him. Let's go ahead and get rid of him.
Speaker 4: Let JJ McCarthy take the handbody looking.
Speaker 1: Over his shoulder the draft, You ain't gonna be looking
Speaker 1: over your shoulder because what you call him, Sam Donald's
Speaker 1: gonna be in front of you. You look over your
Speaker 1: shoulder with something behind you, Sam's gonna be in front
Speaker 1: That man won fourteen games, won, Joe, Hell, I think
Speaker 1: you went to the Pro Bowl last year. Slam's twenty eight?
Speaker 1: So hello, how old JJ McCarthy. J McCarthy probably twenty four.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how this thing plays out. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is what they all season for. Uh, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of moving and shaking. O Yoe, I think
Speaker 1: we canna have a season where a lot of turnover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: JJ is twenty three, Damn, that's it.
Speaker 2: You know he came out early.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right. God me, he going into his thirty
Speaker 3: year right year. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you don't red shirt, Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna come out it at twenty one twenty two because
Speaker 1: I didn't red shirt, so I got drafted at twenty one,
Speaker 1: turned twenty two in June. If you red shirt, you're
Speaker 1: gonna probably be twenty three. Now. If you red shirt
Speaker 1: and still come out or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you red shirt and come out as a as
Speaker 1: a as a sophoboy, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how that, uh, how that plays
Speaker 1: out for him. But the Minnesota but they blew that
Speaker 1: one