WEBVTT - Colt Knost

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Butch podcast. We come to

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<v Speaker 1>you every Wednesday. This week's guest cult nost You've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing him on CBS. He's got his podcast subpar and

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<v Speaker 1>he's someone I've known for a long time, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the good guys on on the PGA Tour. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why he's become so successful and

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<v Speaker 1>become a fan favorite and has people that hate on

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<v Speaker 1>him on social media's because Colt is cult. If you

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<v Speaker 1>like him, that's okay. If you don't like him, he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't care either. He's going to be who he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But someone who I really respect, not only as a broadcaster,

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<v Speaker 1>but Colt was a hell of a player. Didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the big wins on the PGA Tour, obviously that I

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<v Speaker 1>think he would have wanted, but an unbelievable amateur career,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, certainly someone that I think is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be around in the game of golf on the

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<v Speaker 1>airwaves at CBS for a very very long time time.

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<v Speaker 1>When I decided to do the podcast, he was somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I always wanted to get on and we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it at the US Open out in LA I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>will you come on we we are are stars aligned

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<v Speaker 1>and our dates aligned. So I'm really excited. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great one. Lots of good things to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Cult Ghost Enjoy Colts joins the Son of a Books podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been on your podcast subpar so I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get you on mine first. Cult. With all the craziness,

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<v Speaker 1>we just craziness in golf. We just had the third major.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured who best to make sense of all this

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<v Speaker 1>craziness than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first off, it was great to catch up with

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<v Speaker 2>you out at the US Open. Got to spend some

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<v Speaker 2>time with you and Dustin and AJ and Wink and

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<v Speaker 2>I miss you guys obviously. I know you start working

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<v Speaker 2>with some of the tour guys, but it's just not

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<v Speaker 2>the same. I always are some of my favorite people

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up with when we're on the range out there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a blast out in LA.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Dustin Johnson. I went through. He was on

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<v Speaker 1>your Walker Cup team in two thousand and seven. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys won against Roy McElroy, Danny Willett, Royal County down

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<v Speaker 1>one of the iconic I'm just gonna go through the

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<v Speaker 1>list of the names on your Walker Cup team, Ricky

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<v Speaker 1>Fowler Billy Horschel, Dustin Johnson, Chris Kirk, Trip Keney, Jamie Lovemark,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Moore, Websins, and Kyle Stanley. That was a stacked,

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<v Speaker 1>stacked Walker Cup team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was so much fun. You know, we had

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<v Speaker 2>won over there and quite some time, so heading over there,

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<v Speaker 2>I had never been over there and played golf, was

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to it. And you know, to put on

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<v Speaker 2>the red, white and blue. I don't care what level

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<v Speaker 2>you're at, it's something really special. And you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>play alternate shot with your guy Dustin Johnson. Both days.

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<v Speaker 2>We had so much fun out there. Man, he is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest characters. I'll tell you a quick

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<v Speaker 2>story about your guy, Dustin. The first team on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>the first matchup, we're playing Roy mcelroana kid Jonathan Caldwell

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<v Speaker 2>from Northern Ireland, Royal County down. Obviously Rory's the man

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<v Speaker 2>over there, and all the galleries following our our group

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, they announced the matchup and Dustin. We

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<v Speaker 2>decided Dustin's gonna hit off the odds and they say

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<v Speaker 2>now representing Team USA. Dustin washed Johnson. He hit it

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<v Speaker 2>before they finished saying his name, and I just started laughing,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, what was that? He goes, bro, I'm so nervous.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get that over with. He hit it

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred yards off the first team. It was up

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<v Speaker 2>that I'll never forget, I laugh, go down the fairway

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<v Speaker 2>the entire time.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, Colt. A lot of those players went on to

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<v Speaker 1>do some amazing things, win major championships. Jamie Lovemark was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the next big superstar. But back then,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you you were coming, You were part of

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<v Speaker 1>that crew. You won the publics that summer, you won

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<v Speaker 1>the US AM so you guys a lot of fanfare.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew that that was a pretty stacked, stacked group.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did you think out of your crew on that team,

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<v Speaker 1>who did you think going to be the superstar?

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<v Speaker 2>Back then? I think we all agreed and it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was Dustin. I mean not to continue just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about him, but you could just see the natural, raw talent, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he hit it nine miles, He had no fear.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, once he figured out how to dial in

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<v Speaker 2>the wedge game, he had all the tools to be

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<v Speaker 2>a monster at the next level. And yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was him. I mean, Buddy Marouchi and I Remember

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<v Speaker 2>we were sitting down one day just talking about it, like,

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<v Speaker 2>when this kid figures it out, he's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a problem in professional golf. And he sure was there

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<v Speaker 2>still is.

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<v Speaker 1>Rory McRoy was part of that crew back then. What

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<v Speaker 1>was Rory like as an amateur? I mean how old?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean Rory was young then.

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<v Speaker 2>He was eighteen. Yeah, coming off that awesome finish at Carnoustie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in the Open Championship he was with Some

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<v Speaker 2>pictures came out last week at the US Open of

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<v Speaker 2>him and Ricky was he was a chubby Rory. Things

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<v Speaker 2>have changed quite a bit. The oh yeah, I had

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<v Speaker 2>some terrible curly hair, which I like to give him

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time about. But he was still he's He's

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<v Speaker 2>just like Rory is now nice. You could see had

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<v Speaker 2>so much talent. Playing against him in that first match

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot of fun. I mean, Dustin was just

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<v Speaker 2>shipping it by him because he ted off on the

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<v Speaker 2>odds as well. But you could see he had all

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<v Speaker 2>the game. Now, did I think he was gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>what he's done in the game of golf. No, So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a little bit of surprise. But it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to look back and see that you know, I've known

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<v Speaker 2>these guys since two thousand and seven.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think separates You know, there have been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that have played on Walker Cups, Colt,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you were part of that crew. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think separates the guys that come from

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<v Speaker 1>that and then go on to do really, really great things.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a common theme? I mean, obviously Rory won

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<v Speaker 1>a major, Danny Willett won a major, DJ Web Simpson,

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<v Speaker 1>They've all won majors. What do you think is a

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<v Speaker 1>common denominator that all of you guys had that helped

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<v Speaker 1>you get to that next level? Because I think so

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<v Speaker 1>many people listen to this that are trying to play,

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<v Speaker 1>Like they listened to your pod as well, They're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to play. They're trying to get to that next level.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, professional golf is littered with super I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>a great one I saw last week who I see

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<v Speaker 1>every now and again, Rugiyamada. Trevor Immelman, who you work

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<v Speaker 1>with at CBS, always says Rugiyamada when they were juniors,

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<v Speaker 1>was Lebron James. He was just an absolute superstar. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean so much talent, won everything. He didn't translate into

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<v Speaker 1>a superstar career. Is there anything that you've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a common theme of all these players that

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<v Speaker 1>have made it and gotten to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like all of them have great physical talent. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just whether or not they believe in it. And guys

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<v Speaker 2>like Dustin, guys like Rory, I mean, they have that

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<v Speaker 2>self belief they have. I mean it's it's cockiness, let's

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, and it's not. They don't express it outwardly,

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<v Speaker 2>but inside they know they're the best. They belong and

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<v Speaker 2>professional golf is just a different level for me. When

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<v Speaker 2>I finally got out there, it's like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>there's Phil Micholson, There's Tiger Woods, you know, there's these

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<v Speaker 2>great Davis Love the Third. I'm like, holy shit, I've

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<v Speaker 2>actually I've made it. This is incredible, and it's it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of it takes you. Not everybody gets comfortable immediately immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>like a Dustin Johnson, a Justin Thomas at Jordan' speeth,

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<v Speaker 2>it takes a while. Like Matt Coocher is in a

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<v Speaker 2>great example. He's had an unbelievable career, but it took

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<v Speaker 2>him a long time to get out there on the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour and finally get it done. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>the self belief is such a huge thing because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't think we realize how lucky we are

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<v Speaker 2>to see a guy like Dustin Johnson, Roy McRoy, Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>Spied come right out of college and just have a

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<v Speaker 2>major impact on the PGA Tour. There's not many of

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<v Speaker 2>those because it's there's some learning curves involved.

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<v Speaker 1>You talk about confidence and cockiness. Wyndam Clark, who I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're boys with. He lives in Scottsdale. I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best things about Wyndham is he has

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<v Speaker 1>always thought he belonged he was. He always has thought

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<v Speaker 1>that this is right where he should be. Nobody is

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<v Speaker 1>less surprised that he won a major championship than Wyndam Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>The confidence and I think that is a is a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>huge part of what makes him a great player.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean his his sports, like I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what she was preaching to him all week was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>play cocky. You know the crowd's not on your side.

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<v Speaker 2>With the guys like Dustin. He was in the final

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<v Speaker 2>group with Ricky Fowler and then the next to last

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<v Speaker 2>groups Rory Macroy and Scotti Scheffler. I mean, Wyndam was

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<v Speaker 2>hardly talked about heading into the end of the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>out there. Here's a guy had one PGA Tour event

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<v Speaker 2>and that just recently happened. But Wyndham was a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who was really hard on himself throughout his career, and

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<v Speaker 2>he expected so much of himself, like you said, And

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<v Speaker 2>Juliaelion has done some awesome work with him to get

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<v Speaker 2>him to calm down, relax his caddy John Ellis. But

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<v Speaker 2>he's one of those guys. You know, everyone on the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour, everyone in professional golf can hit it. You

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<v Speaker 2>walk up down the range, you're like, good, good, good.

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<v Speaker 2>Wyndham's got a little different sound to it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and ninety mile an hour ball speech, so

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<v Speaker 2>different everything. Yeah, and that's that's that's special. There's only

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<v Speaker 2>a handful of guys, I would say, for you and

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<v Speaker 2>I when we walk up and down the range with

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<v Speaker 2>out there every week, that you're like, Okay, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>different right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think it took him a little longer

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<v Speaker 1>than he probably thought it would take.

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<v Speaker 2>He was one of those guys, like you said, he

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<v Speaker 2>believed in himself, but he also if one thing went bad,

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<v Speaker 2>it was game over. He would absolutely lose it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it took basically what his team calls it,

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of an intervention. They sat him down, like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, if you want to continue, if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be as good as you can, then we got

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<v Speaker 2>to change some things. And they did, and he's become

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<v Speaker 2>his own best friend. Now. His caddie, John Allis, does

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome job. I love. I hate having to lay

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<v Speaker 2>out when the players and caddies talk because that takes

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<v Speaker 2>away from my time talking. But when John Allis gets

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<v Speaker 2>in there, it's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think having a play a guy on

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<v Speaker 1>your bag, because obviously you played, does it help to

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<v Speaker 1>have someone on your bag that has played in major championships,

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<v Speaker 1>that is played on tour that was a good, good,

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<v Speaker 1>good good player. Do you think that helps? Because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there's two ends of the spectrum. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>caddies that are great caddies that weren't superstar players. But

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think having someone that is in there

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<v Speaker 1>before down the streets. I mean, I think that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons why my dad has been so successful

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<v Speaker 1>with players, because players know he played the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept his card. He won even though it was

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<v Speaker 1>a one day event back when the PGA Tour had

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<v Speaker 1>one day's event, but she won one. He qualified for

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<v Speaker 1>US Opens. He played him. What does that bring as

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<v Speaker 1>a player when you have someone like that on the bag.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's hard. I think it's so different for everyone, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just I think people need somebody that makes

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<v Speaker 2>them comfortable in these really stressful moments. And once again,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go use Dustin a lot as an example

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<v Speaker 2>because he's a freak. But Austin Johnson, he's never teaed

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<v Speaker 2>it up on PGA Tour, but he keeps Dustin so relaxed,

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<v Speaker 2>so calm. He knows exactly what Dustin's thinking at all times.

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<v Speaker 2>He knows what he needs to say. Now, John ellis

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<v Speaker 2>great player, never made it. He's probably one of the

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<v Speaker 2>best players I've ever seen that never made it out

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<v Speaker 2>on the PGA Tour. So yeah, there's not many major

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<v Speaker 2>championship that are caddies now, so it's hard for them

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh, hey, when I did this, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it helps to know, like, Okay, my guy

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<v Speaker 2>when he gets nervous, like all of us, we get

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<v Speaker 2>going a lot faster. We get walking a lot faster.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought one of the best things I've heard from

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<v Speaker 2>a caddy was Joe s govern when he was with

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Fowler. Ricky used to get to walking really really

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<v Speaker 2>fast when coming down the stretch, and they had a

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<v Speaker 2>rule that Ricky was never allowed to walk in front

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<v Speaker 2>of Joe. That was Joe's way of slowing him down.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that's some of the best advice

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard from a caddy. Just a little trigger to say, Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going a little quick. You know the rule you

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<v Speaker 2>can't cross in front of this bag rid here.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad, it it's funny that you mentioned that back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. I remember Tiger when he first came

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<v Speaker 1>out on tour. He was leading a tournament. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the bigger tournaments that he had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win, and my dad, Butch, he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>do everything from the time you wake up today, do

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<v Speaker 1>everything slower. Get dressed slower, so give yourself more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat your breakfast slower, warm up slower, walk slower, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to want to get to the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna want to get down there and get everything going,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that is fantastic. But Colt, how what

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<v Speaker 1>does it feel like? I mean, I've never played, you played,

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<v Speaker 1>What does it feel like when you're Because I know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like when I'm watching you know, the guys

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<v Speaker 1>I'm lucky enough to work with. You know, Brooks just

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<v Speaker 1>won a major championship. I know what it's like for

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<v Speaker 1>me when I'm watching that, and I'm nervous. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea how people like yourself and everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>that has played professional. I don't know how you guys

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is fascinating to me how you somehow are able

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<v Speaker 1>to get your brain to let your body do what

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<v Speaker 1>it's doing. But when you are in that situation, Colton,

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<v Speaker 1>you've won tournaments before, you won, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest amateur tournaments, you've won on the nationwide. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're in that pressure situation, what does it feel like?

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like you're about to puke at all times?

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<v Speaker 2>It is, It's it's awesome, slash awful. Like you hate

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<v Speaker 2>the feeling because I mean, you know, it's no fun

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<v Speaker 2>to puke. But at the same time, you know, this

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<v Speaker 2>is what I worked my entire life for is to

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<v Speaker 2>get in this moment and have a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're a one hundred percent right, everything gets going

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<v Speaker 2>so fast, Like I mean, if you're a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>warms up for forty five minutes, you go through your

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<v Speaker 2>warm up and you look, you're like, okay, stuff. Thirty left,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was almost done. Like it is. Just

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to because even though it is Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>and every stroke counts the same throughout the whole week,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't feel like Thursday. I mean, it takes that

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<v Speaker 2>morning leading up to when you're in contention takes so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Like for those guys on Saturday that teed off after

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<v Speaker 2>three point thirty in the afternoon at the US Open,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would have lost my mind. I would have

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<v Speaker 2>been up at seven because I couldn't sleep because I

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<v Speaker 2>was so nervous, breakfast, try to go back to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe watch some coverage. It would have felt like an eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's some guys that are really good

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<v Speaker 2>at it, and that's that's why the best in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible for me to watch them coming down the

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<v Speaker 2>stretch at tournaments and how they control they're adrenaline because

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<v Speaker 2>the ball goes so far when you're when you're amped up,

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<v Speaker 2>and to come come there and you're, you know, seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>at Sawgrass and I know it's a short shot, but

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<v Speaker 2>your heart's beating a million miles an hour and you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to hit it on this little target and you

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<v Speaker 2>know the history. I want to be one of those

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<v Speaker 2>guys that makes this massive number or hits it in

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<v Speaker 2>the water on Sunday and loses the championship. It takes.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why these guys are so great. I use Justin

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas as you know, it's a shot that never gets

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. But if you go back to the PGA

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<v Speaker 2>Championship at Tulsa the year before last, they go to

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff, first hole is a part five. He was

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<v Speaker 2>forced to lay up. He had seventy two yards off

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<v Speaker 2>a downslope to a rock hard green and he just

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<v Speaker 2>took this long, beautiful slow swing, controlled it in there,

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<v Speaker 2>put some zip on it, and hit it's like six

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<v Speaker 2>feet And I was like, that was very impressive, and

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<v Speaker 2>people don't realize how good that was because he could

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<v Speaker 2>easily just gas that one over the bunker and probably

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<v Speaker 2>been tournament over.

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<v Speaker 1>in your new role as on course for CBS, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're doing a great job. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I think you're doing a great job with Cold

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<v Speaker 1>is because you're part of this modern generation, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>part of this new generation. I think you and Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>and Amanda, you guys, there's some new blood in television now.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things I like if if Roy

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<v Speaker 1>mcroy's come down stretch and he's on seventeen and he's

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<v Speaker 1>got one hundred and eighty five yards and he pulls

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<v Speaker 1>out a six iron, which everybody is thinking on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna think there's gotta be something wrong. You expect

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<v Speaker 1>him from that distance because of the adrenaline, because of

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<v Speaker 1>how far he's hitting it. You expect him I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>nine iron, and it wouldn't surprise you from that at

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<v Speaker 1>that time of the tournament if he tried to nuke

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<v Speaker 1>a wedge from one eighty five either.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's hilarious when my man Parker gives me

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<v Speaker 2>the signal of what club it is sometimes and I

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<v Speaker 2>just start laughing. I'm like, these guys, they hit it

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<v Speaker 2>so far. But it first off, walking with these guys

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<v Speaker 2>weekend and week out made me realize I definitely made

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<v Speaker 2>the right decision to quit, because you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>walking with the grinders out there that are grinding to

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<v Speaker 2>make the cut every week. I'm walking with the best

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<v Speaker 2>in the world and the guys that are on their

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<v Speaker 2>game every weekend, and they're just so good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to explain. I mean, they make it

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<v Speaker 2>look like a video game out there. They hit it

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<v Speaker 2>nine miles, they hit their irons to the moon and

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<v Speaker 2>get them to land so soft, and then they get

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<v Speaker 2>it up and down from I mean, like what Wyndam

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<v Speaker 2>Clark getting up and down on eleven like he did,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that was just insane, even the one I'm crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>the one on seventeen was pretty straightforward, but in the circumstances,

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<v Speaker 2>that was unbelievable. And then they make everything they need to.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's uh man, I feel so lucky just to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there still walking with the guys. And like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, I have a great relationship with ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the guys in professional golf, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they let me in. We have a lot of fun

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<v Speaker 2>out there still and it's just I'm so lucky to

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<v Speaker 2>still get to be out there every week.

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<v Speaker 1>You're year two into your role on course, with everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen over almost the last year and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>if you could take what you've learned and then go

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<v Speaker 1>back to your professional career and start with the information

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<v Speaker 1>that you've seen from the best of the best under

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<v Speaker 1>the gone in the last year and a half, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it would change the way you play golf?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I it's a good question, like would I

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<v Speaker 2>go back and get in the gym and do all

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<v Speaker 2>the speed training and try to hit it a lot farther? Probably,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. That's just not me. Like I hit

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<v Speaker 2>it extremely straight, but I was extremely short, and those

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<v Speaker 2>guys just really there's no place for them a professional

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<v Speaker 2>golf anymore. There's very few that still make it. So No,

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<v Speaker 2>and honestly, I don't want to. I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I was meant to do. I've never been happier,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been less stressed, and people, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>there are obviously a lot of haters out there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not for everyone, but for the most part, people seem

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy listening to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What's been the hard what's been surprising to you because

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<v Speaker 1>I've done TV. They put me on course twice when

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<v Speaker 1>I did TV for Sky, and I was terrible at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I did some commentary for Sky last week. By the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend I felt like I was getting better. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I always would surprises me whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>do TV is when you're watching and the abuse that

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<v Speaker 1>you get is everybody says, shut up, quit talking, you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking too much. But when you're actually doing TV, it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing how little time you really have to say anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh it's unbelievable. I was, especially as an encourse guy,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean they throw it down there. You get

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<v Speaker 2>to give information and then boom, it's onto the next shot.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time they're like, oh, tell us

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<v Speaker 2>a story. I'm like, well, I can't tell a story

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<v Speaker 2>in five six seconds, but yeah you. And one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I have noticed is a lot more people chime in

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<v Speaker 2>on social media. Some good, but you do recognize the positive.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of people out there that shut up,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the worst thing they've ever heard on TV. That's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>that's their opinion. Hit the mute button. But you mentioned like,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't realize how fast it goes. I did the

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<v Speaker 2>serious XM coverage at the US Open, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>the lead analyst, and I got serious. I mean it's radio,

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<v Speaker 2>so you get to talk just NonStop. It was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>I had so much fun. Yeah, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>shut up. I was like this, this is great. We

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<v Speaker 2>can talk over the shot. Just keep on rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been We're three majors in now. John Rahm wins

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<v Speaker 1>the Masters, Brooks wins the PGA. Now Wyndam Clark wins

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<v Speaker 1>the US Open. Which one of those wins have been

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<v Speaker 1>the most impressive to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're all three extremely impressive. Obviously Windham it's

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<v Speaker 2>a life changer, John Ron Brooks Koepka. They're meant to

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:34.159
<v Speaker 2>win majors. John's was impressive at the Masters because of

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 2>the wave he was in. He had to play in

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 2>those terrible conditions that one morning, and to go out

0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:40.720
<v Speaker 2>there and do it, I mean when everyone else was

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.600
<v Speaker 2>just falling apart. And then Brooks, I mean, you know, eventually,

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're gonna get into this whole lift thing.

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Which that's what kind of what I get it. It

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:52.760
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. I said, going into Augusta and

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<v Speaker 2>No one listens to me or anything about that, and

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.879
<v Speaker 2>they don't have to. That's fine. But when Brooks won

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 2>in Orlando, I said, the healthy Brooks Koepka is a

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 2>problem in major championships. He is just, you know, talking

0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to other guys, talking to some of the best in

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the world. They are blown away by what Brooks does

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in major championships. It is truly unbelievable. And what I

0:22:14.040 --> 0:22:16.879
<v Speaker 2>saw in Orlando, it looked like the knee was great.

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Everything I mean, obviously, I know everyone on his team

0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 2>sounded like everything was great. I said, I would not

0:22:22.400 --> 0:22:24.880
<v Speaker 2>surprise me one bit if he's a factor. At Augusta.

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 2>He was obviously a huge factor. Finished a second, and

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 2>then he goes to the PGA and I got to

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.760
<v Speaker 2>walk with him on Saturday, him and Bryson, and he

0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 2>just put on a clinic and he just ran away

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.040
<v Speaker 2>from that field. And I don't know, you know way

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>more about it than I do, but I and I

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>don't think he'll ever share the secret. I know he

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:43.160
<v Speaker 2>broke down that one time about why he thinks major

0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 2>championships are easier to win, But it's just so impressive

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that he puts himself up there every single time, and

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:51.359
<v Speaker 2>then of course I go out and I pick him

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 2>at La Country Club and he plays horrible for him

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:56.320
<v Speaker 2>and finished the seventeenth. So I'll take that one.

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 1>At one time, you both shared the same agent, Blake Smith,

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 1>who's also Scotti Shuffler's agent. When you look at Brooks,

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know him well, You've spent a lot

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.359
<v Speaker 1>of time around him. You obviously we know the mental

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:11.600
<v Speaker 1>strength in the that that extra thing that he has.

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>But when you look at Brooks's game, what do you

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 1>like about it? And what do you what what impresses

0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 1>you and what you've known him for a long time,

0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.439
<v Speaker 1>and what have you seen over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>last ten years about how his game has evolved.

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Nothing bothers him like I mean, he wants the biggest

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 2>moment possible. He wants all the lights to be on him,

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:34.359
<v Speaker 2>and I just love how he just gets up there

0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 2>and he just sends it. He does not hold back

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>one bit. Him and Ricky Elliott, they are two of them.

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean they make decisions faster than anybody in the game,

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 2>which which I love. And also he has no weaknesses

0:23:45.200 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 2>and you can see it in his eyes. I mean,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>he is a man on the on a mission. He's

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 2>a he's an athlete. Like I said, he loves the

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 2>stage and he goes out there and he performs. I mean,

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I know it bothered him a lot what happened at

0:23:56.720 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Augusta on Sunday, How he let that one get away

0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.159
<v Speaker 2>and he said it will never happen again. And it

0:24:01.200 --> 0:24:03.680
<v Speaker 2>only took a few weeks for him to prove that statement, right.

0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I think one of the things, and you've seen it

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>up close, I think one of the things that just

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:11.920
<v Speaker 1>changed a lot about Brooks's I don't think he gets

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 1>nearly enough credit for how good he is. From one

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty and in he can really hit. I mean, obviously,

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, Justin Thomas is the best in the game,

0:24:19.800 --> 0:24:23.240
<v Speaker 1>and it isn't even close with regards to wet shots,

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 1>off speed, web shots, controlling trajectory, controlling the spin. But

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:31.119
<v Speaker 1>Brooks is sneaky good in the ability to flight and

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.920
<v Speaker 1>hit that kind of no spin one bouncer that just

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of stays in the area that he needs to stay.

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a part of his game that has

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>gotten better. And then I think he's very underrated the

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>work that he's done with Pete Cowen Brooks short game

0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>is pretty legit as well.

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.239
<v Speaker 2>It really is. And I mean, if you look at

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>his major championship record again, I believe going into last

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 2>week he was he had eighteen top tens and thirty

0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>six majors. Five of those are wins, obviously, but how

0:24:57.920 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 2>many of those were he actually healthy? I mean there's

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:01.879
<v Speaker 2>sick seven eight of those where he was he was

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent Brooks Koepka, So you can kind

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>of throw those out the window. And so when you

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:08.719
<v Speaker 2>break it down, you're looking at that around sixty five percent.

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 2>He puts himself in attention at major championships, and then

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 2>there was the ones early in his career where he

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 2>definitely didn't have the skill that he does now. So

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 2>you got to give him credit about his major championship record.

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 2>It is. It is truly something special. And when other

0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>players text you and you're and tell you how amazing,

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>how amazed they are of how good he is during

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>those championships, it's something truly special.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>You live in Scottsdale, John Rahm lives out there. You

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 1>can make an argument cold I wonder how John rom

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>doesn't win every week. I mean, that is how good

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>he is. I've had his coach, Dave Phillips from the

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Titleist Performance Institute on the pod in the past. We've

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>talked about it. He is so good. I'm sure you

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>probably see him a lot in Scottsdale and play and stuff.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have any weaknesses in my opinion. So what

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 1>wrests you about him as a player From a technique

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 1>and ball striking standpoint.

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>It just looks like the same shot every single time.

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Like with the driver, he sets up down the left,

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>hits that just hard fade. He's really good at changing trajectories,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 2>which I don't think everyone is. And then his iron game,

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I mean the ball just barely curves. If anything. He

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 2>just throws darts at all times. But he's another guy

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>like Brooks. He's got that killer instinct. It doesn't matter

0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 2>if your Sunday have a major championship or Tuesday at

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Whisper Rock or Silver Leaf and he's playing for fifty bucks,

0:26:29.960 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>he wants to absolutely kill you. Oh.

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Pat Perez says he throws more clubs at home when

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>he hits a bad shot. Pat says he has to.

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.440
<v Speaker 1>When they play at silver Leaf, he says, if they're

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>playing for money at least three times around. He's got

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>to go into the middle of the desert and go

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:46.600
<v Speaker 1>get his driver, Go get an iron, go get the putter,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 1>because he just flings it because he gets so mad

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:49.360
<v Speaker 1>at home.

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>It is hilarious. It's great. And when we play now

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>he has to give me two a side and so

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 2>when I par my stroke, call and let him know

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 2>that that's four for three. That really gets the Spaniard

0:26:58.920 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 2>fired up.

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Wyndham Clark A. I mean it was a dominant, impressive

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 1>performance as you mentioned Scotty Scheffler, Ricky Rory. How how

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>good can he be?

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Colt?

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>And is he now somebody that we are going to

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>start seeing in major championships for the next five years

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like we see you know, Scotty and DJ and Cam

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Smith and all these other great players. Is Wyndham now

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>do you think he's going to be that guy?

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Now? It'll be interesting to see how good he can get.

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, when he was in contention at Quail Hollow

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>earlier this year, I said on CBS, I said, you know,

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, this guy's underachieved in his career. He

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 2>was ranked eightieth in the world, hadn't won yet. Like

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:45.479
<v Speaker 2>I just I see all the tools, and I think

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 2>he's a top twenty player in the world. And of

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 2>course the haters on social media absolutely abused me for

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.119
<v Speaker 2>that and said he hadn't done anything to show that.

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, listen, I get to see these

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 2>guys every single week, and when you play with Wyndham Clark,

0:27:57.160 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 2>you're impressed. That's all I know. So if he ever believe,

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>if ever realizes how good he is, I think he's

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna be really good in this game. Now, the Major

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Championship happened faster than I thought it would. He's up

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 2>to thirteenth in the world. I'm with a lot of

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 2>people in this The world rankings are absolutely ridiculous. So

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:15.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know how much I look

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 2>into that, but here's a guy. He's gonna be on

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 2>the Ryder Cup team this year. You know his confidence

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>is going to continue to grow. Can he be a

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 2>multiple time major champion? Yeah? Could he go the rest

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>of his career and only win one? Sure? That's how

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>good everyone out there is. I mean, if you would

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.920
<v Speaker 2>have told me at the start of Sergios Garcia's career

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 2>he'd have one major championship, what would you have said,

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:36.080
<v Speaker 2>you're out of your mind.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when he came out, you would have thought he

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>would have at least three or four.

0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's that's just how hard it is to win.

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's just another tip of the Captain Brooks.

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>To have five in this era is really special.

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Rory McIlroy one shot back. Where are we with Rory?

0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't won a major in nine years. I to me,

0:29:01.200 --> 0:29:04.479
<v Speaker 1>there's about three or four guys that you can make

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>an argument for John rom being one of them. Brooks

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>DJ right now, I think you've got to throw Scotti

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.479
<v Speaker 1>Scheffler in that mix. When they're playing at their best,

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 1>they're hard to beat. But out of all that crew,

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>when Rory McElroy plays his best, he to me, he

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:28.440
<v Speaker 1>makes the game look as easy as anyone. It's been

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>nine years since he's won a major. Do you think

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 1>it's affecting him? Do you think he's running into guys

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that are playing better than he is. I mean, he's

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.280
<v Speaker 1>had legit chances cult in the last three tournaments he's

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>played in, especially at Memorial, especially at RBC, we're seeing

0:29:46.880 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Rory not get it done in ways where we've seen

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>him close and expect him to close in the past.

0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the one that baffles me the most. I mean,

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>like you said, watching him play the game when he

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>is on, it just doesn't look fair. The way he

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>drives the golf ball, it is the It's the biggest

0:30:04.760 --> 0:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>weapon in the game of golf in my opinion. You know,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>he Cam Smith shot an unbelievable final round at Saint

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 2>Andrews last year at the Open. Would Rory go back

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 2>and probably say he played a little safe, I would

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>have to say he would, But still Cam played a

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>great round. But that's one he definitely should have won.

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, last week at the US Open, made nothing

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. That's kind of the thing we've seen over

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years as he struggled with the putter.

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 2>But to be fair, there was not many putts hold

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday at the US Open in the last few groups.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Those greens got so nasty. But I just think there's

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 2>so much pressure on Rory with everything, and even before

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 2>all this other stuff happened. I mean, he's one of

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:43.800
<v Speaker 2>the most popular players in the game. We expect so

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>much from him. He won four major championships so quickly.

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Now he hasn't won one in his last thirty three attempts.

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But he's just that guy. Every single time a major

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>comes around, it's like, is this gonna be the week?

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Is this gonna be the week? He went to the

0:30:57.200 --> 0:30:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Masters this year early, got a lot of work in

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>fell he was ready, went out and missed the cut,

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 2>and I know it took a lot out of him.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>But there isn't a cult. There isn't a golf course

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:10.960
<v Speaker 1>on this planet that is designed better for Rory McElroy

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>than Augusta National it is. I mean, if you could

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>draw up a golf course to suit every element of

0:31:17.440 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>his game, his ability to turn the golf ball from

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 1>right to left, his ability, I mean, he can hit

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>it as high probably. I mean, the only person that

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 1>I've seen hit it that high with mid to long

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>irons was Tiger in the day. Rory can hit a

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>four iron that looks like a like a sixty degree lobwtch.

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>It just goes straight up and lands straight down. Augusta

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to me, is the perfect place for him to win

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>every single year because of the way his game is.

0:31:48.800 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think, I mean, it's been funny for

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>me to watch this kind of war rivalry back and

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>forth between him and Greg Norman, because if you look

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>get Greg and Rory's careers, believe it or not, they're

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>very very similar. Number One, they are the dominant players

0:32:08.680 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>of their era. They dominate by the driver. Everyone thinks

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>they are underachieving relative to the talent they've got. You know,

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Rory's won four Majors. Everybody thinks he should have won ten.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Greg's won two, everybody thinks he should have won more.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>They've kind of they've.

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Won all over the world.

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 1>They both have the same type of private jet. I mean,

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it's been interesting. They both haven't been able to get

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>it done at Augusta Nashville, which again Greg's game in

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>his prime. You couldn't find a better golf course for

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Greg Norman. Yeah.

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>For Rory, obviously, he had the league going into the

0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 2>second nine there, you know, six seven, eight years ago,

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and he had the disaster when he Snapp pooped it

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>on ten and it went into the cabins over there,

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and that obviously I think left some scar tissue. But

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 2>starting to look at Augusta National more and more with Rory, Yeah,

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>off the team absolutely per long. Part three's no problem.

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:06.240
<v Speaker 2>But you know, being out there. When he drives it good,

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 2>he has so many short irons, and that is the

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>one weakness in his game in my opinion, when things

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 2>get a little off, is he hits some really poor

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>short irons and wedges, and in Augusta National the sections

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>you have to hit it into are so small, and

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>so when he misses, he leaves himself in a really

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 2>bad spot. That's the only thing I can think of

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>of why he struggles there, because for the last decade

0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:27.640
<v Speaker 2>I've always been like, Okay, I don't understand how he

0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 2>doesn't win here every single time as well. But when

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I started breaking it down a little more, I'm like, okay,

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>that kind of makes sense if you missed the Bowl

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>here on seven or seventeen, like you can get in

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a spot where you're in a lot of trouble. But

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I just don't understand how when his career is over

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.479
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't have at least one green jacket.

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you would think of and are there are

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>players cold as you know? I mean now that you're

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>working at you know, you work at Augusta National. I mean,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it's such a privilege to be a part of that broadcast.

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>There are players that everybody knows will be unbelievable Masters

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 1>champions right, And I think Rory McElroy to me, out

0:34:09.800 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>of everybody in the game, for him to dawn a

0:34:13.760 --> 0:34:19.720
<v Speaker 1>green jacket, he would be an amazing ambassador for that tournament.

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh one hundred percent. I think he's gonna get it

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 2>done at some point. But at the end of the day,

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 2>it is it is so tough to win out there.

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I think he puts so much pressure on himself going

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 2>into that week. Obviously he needs it for the career

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 2>Grand Slam. He needs it to shut everybody up about

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 2>him not being able to finish it off there. You know,

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 2>he the year before last one, Scotty Cheffler won. He

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.920
<v Speaker 2>had the amazing final round hold the bunker shot in eighteen.

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>It finished second, but he was never really close. I

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>mean he was that bucker shot got him within four

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:51.280
<v Speaker 2>or five. He needed to have Scotty have a disaster

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 2>coming in. But yeah, I'm with you, I would be

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 2>shocked if he doesn't get one before his career is over.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Do we see him? I mean, I can't see a

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 1>way that he He's not in the mix going to

0:35:01.680 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Hoylake for the Open Championship, the last major of this year.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>What do you like about the Open Championship? What do

0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.759
<v Speaker 1>you like about Links golf? What don't you like about

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Links golf?

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Well, the only thing I didn't like about Links golf

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:15.839
<v Speaker 2>is when you got on the wrong side of the wave,

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>because you know, it's just it's an awesome thing about

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 2>that tournament how everyone tees off number one, but there

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>are just some years where if you teed off in

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 2>a certain way, you had no chance of winning. That's

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the only thing that is bad about it. Other than that,

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the Open Championship might be the greatest tournament in golf.

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, those fans over there, they get it. You

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 2>get to play on some of the most historic golf courses.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 2>The scene coming up eighteen is the best in golf.

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, that massive horseshoe grand stand, the big yellow scoreboard.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 2>When it's twenty nineteen, when Shane Lowry won, I mean,

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 2>was there a better scene in the game of golf?

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>Him coming through the crowd, knowing it was over in

0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>his home country, arms in the air. That was just cool. Man.

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I get goosebumps just thinking about Shane going through there

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>and then just absolutely putting the Cleric jet through torture

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:03.640
<v Speaker 2>for two years.

0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I like that you've got a fan, You're you're part

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 1>of the CBS broadcast team. One of my close close friends,

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 1>one of my boys, Trevor Emmlman's part of your team.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:19.360
<v Speaker 1>Now you've got jim Nantz, who just I mean, the

0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>guy is just as a broadcaster, it's you've got to

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 1>have goosebumps where the first time you're at AUGUSSA, you're

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.399
<v Speaker 1>you've got your headset on and jim Nantz comes through

0:36:29.400 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to the broadcast and that whole hello

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 1>friends thing. I mean. To work with the crew that

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you've got, it's got to be pretty cool for you

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.279
<v Speaker 1>because you and and I think the relationship that you

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>and Amanda now have that kind of cool moment that

0:36:43.640 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you guys had at Waste Management, And I mentioned this,

0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I think you're part of this new breed of golf.

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>But you've got so many veterans on your team at CBS.

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>What's the experience been like for you and and what

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>have you really really liked about it?

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Well? First off, like this was never a plan of

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.359
<v Speaker 2>mine in my life was to be a broadcaster. I

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 2>had no idea that this would ever happen. I'll still

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 2>never forget. When I got the call from CBS about

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.879
<v Speaker 2>doing a couple events, I was like, yeah, I guess,

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I got nothing else to do. I'll give

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 2>it a try. And it has been such an awesome experience.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, Jim Nance, I mean Jim Nantz has

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:22.640
<v Speaker 2>been with cbsins nineteen eighty five. That's the year I

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 2>was born. So I've listened to him my entire life.

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And now the fact that I work alongside him and

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 2>he sends it down and asked me a question. It

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 2>seriously is a pinch me moment every single It's not

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>just Augusta, it's everywhere. The first time he ever did

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it was the PGA Championship at Kiowa Island. That was

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>my first real CBS event, and I was just like,

0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.879
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this just happened. It is It's really cool.

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know the relationship with Amanda. You got to

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>give our producer Sellers Shy a lot of credit for

0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>that idea to put that set on sixteen at Waste Management,

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and then to have Sam Ryder make a hole in one,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>It's like, couldn't have drawn it up any better. Trevor.

0:37:57.560 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>You know him and I have a great relationship. I

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 2>had agree relationship with Nick as well, but you know,

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Trevor and I are a little closer in age. We

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 2>love talking golf, we love having fun. Frank Nabolo is

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 2>my guy. I mean, we just absolutely abuse each other

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 2>out there. Fincy one of the best to ever do it.

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 2>He's been out there forever. And then you have Dottie

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 2>and Mark as well, who have been so great to

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 2>me and taught me so many things because I had

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>no idea what the hell I was doing, and they've

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 2>been great mentors to me. But you know, like I

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 2>said earlier, I know I'm not for everyone. I'm one

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 2>of the youngest to ever do this do this role

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:35.320
<v Speaker 2>in professional golf, and I want to make it fun.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a show. It's supposed to be entertaining. What the

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>guys are doing out there that you're watching. That's the

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>serious stuff. I think. I know when it's time to

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.239
<v Speaker 2>be serious. But at the end of the day, like

0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I want people to be entertained. I want them to

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.919
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, what is col gonna say next? I mean,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>you look at the most successful shows in sports right now,

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.720
<v Speaker 2>there's two, in my opinion, Pat McAfee, who just says

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:58.800
<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell he wants, and he has one of

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>the biggest shows on the planet. And then NBA on

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.320
<v Speaker 2>DNT with Charles, Kenny, Jack and Ernie. I mean, I

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>don't evenally like the NBA, but I tune in to

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>listen to that because they are so funny, they're so loose,

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>and that's what people want to hear, and I'm just

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>trying to bring more of that to golf.

0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It always takes me a little bit when I'm on

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>TV to try and not sound like I'm trying to

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>be on TV, because that's really really hard, and I

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>think it is hard to kind of find your voice,

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>find your own personality when you're on TV, because, like

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, we've all watched broadcast television forever, We've all

0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>watched golf forever, and I think you came in. I

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>think one of the reasons why you've been successful and

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>why you know some people don't like it is you

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of take the approach that I think you always

0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of talk about what's happening in golf, like we

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 1>would be talking about what somebody's doing on the range,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>minus the fact that you can't swear on yeah, you know,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 1>regular TV. But I think one of the things I

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.520
<v Speaker 1>like about which you there was this I can't remember

0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>where we were, but I was watching you. I think

0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.440
<v Speaker 1>we were at Congare a couple of years ago and

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>you were on course and you were going back and

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.320
<v Speaker 1>forth and you were talking to Nick and you asked

0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>Nick a question and he didn't answer it, and live

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>on air you went, well, okay then, and I thought

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just perfect. And I thought, of all the people,

0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, you've got to call him. I mean,

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>do you call him sir Nick or do you call

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>him Nick?

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 2>No? Absolutely not. I always called him Nick. I was like,

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm not calling you, sir. I know that's your My.

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Dad said the same thing last he was doing he

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>did Sky and Nick was doing Sky at Augusta and

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.520
<v Speaker 1>my dad said, Man, I'm not calling this guy sir.

0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.319
<v Speaker 2>No, no chance, absolutely not no. But like I mean,

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.240
<v Speaker 2>like you said, one of the best pieces of advice

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 2>I got was from the longtime legendary producer at CBS,

0:40:50.280 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Lance Berrow, and I first got to know him. He

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>would always come out to Wist brock Ter and Phoenix

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Open and want to come in and hang out. And

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.560
<v Speaker 2>I would sit with him at lunch occasionally, and you know,

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you know how I am. I talk to everyone that

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.080
<v Speaker 2>walks in the door, hold court, whatever it is. And

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>he goes, this is what I want you to be

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.040
<v Speaker 2>on TV. He goes, I want the WISP person sitting

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>at the lunch table at Whisp Brock to be that

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 2>on CBS. And I'm like, I actually think. I was like,

0:41:12.920 --> 0:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>that's hard to do. And then finally I started getting

0:41:15.280 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot more comfortable and just realizing, you know what

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna talk just the way I am. Like,

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, Trevor and I go back and forth. We

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:23.720
<v Speaker 2>take jabs at each other all the time. I always

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>congratulate him on finishing runner up at the President's Cup.

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.040
<v Speaker 2>It's it's just it's it's supposed to be fun. Like

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.719
<v Speaker 2>get I wake up every day so excited to go

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 2>to work, and I never want to lose that in

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>a in a in a world today where you have

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 2>to be so careful with what you say, because I mean,

0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you can get canceled at any moment if you offend anyone.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>That's the only thing that terrifies me a little bit.

0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 2>But man, I'm just gonna let it all hang out, like,

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 2>I want to enjoy this as long as I can,

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>and when when I'm all finished with this career, I

0:41:51.560 --> 0:41:53.160
<v Speaker 2>hopefully go down as one of the best to ever

0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:53.440
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that we need this in golf, that

0:41:57.040 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>we need the broadcast to maybe change a little bit

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.920
<v Speaker 1>from what it has been And you mentioned that, you know,

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>seller show put you and Amanda on the sixteenth hole

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>at waste Management, I mean all of the stuff happening there.

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that the broadcast needs to change to

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>bring in new viewers?

0:42:22.080 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean we want to get younger, right, you

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.040
<v Speaker 2>want to get younger viewers. And I have all kinds

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>of opinions. I've only done this for a couple of years,

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't know if anybody would listen to me,

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 2>but I get it. In a day where everyone wants

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they want to see more shots, more shots, more shots,

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>that's fine, but God's boring, and we need to tell

0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:43.279
<v Speaker 2>more about these guys. And even if we just show

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.719
<v Speaker 2>brooks Kepka hit a shot, and I've got a great

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.520
<v Speaker 2>story about brooks Kepka that takes longer than six seconds,

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.320
<v Speaker 2>even if it goes into the next shot, like I

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:52.479
<v Speaker 2>don't understand why I can't continue to say it because

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 2>it's relevant at the time, Like, that's not taking away

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 2>from Scotti Scheffler hitting seven iron from one to eighty

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.359
<v Speaker 2>on the next hole. If he holds it, well, that's

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 2>just really bad luck for me that I was talking

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>over it. But yeah, I think I think the broadcast

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>does need to change a little bit. I think it

0:43:05.080 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 2>needs to be looser. I think there needs to be

0:43:08.160 --> 0:43:10.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, they always say, I mean you you listen

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to what the public says. They want more shots, but

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:14.879
<v Speaker 2>they want more information on the guys. That's pretty damn

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.759
<v Speaker 2>hard to do. You know. In my role, I'm out

0:43:18.800 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 2>there on the range every day talking with you guys.

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 2>I get some great stuff. I know what I can

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 2>use and I know what I can't use. And I

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>think the viewer at home would be fascinated to hear

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff that those guys share with me.

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, I think that one of the things. Uh,

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's a fine line because you know,

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you're down there, and I always think that those of

0:43:39.000 --> 0:43:41.840
<v Speaker 1>us that are not doing TV and there for the

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.320
<v Speaker 1>tournaments and stuff, if you are going to say something,

0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I think those of us as coaches, as caddies, and

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can't speak for Flayers, but I'm guessing

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>they're the same. If you're going to say something about

0:43:52.360 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a player or about what they're working on, it stuff,

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it lends more credibility to do it the

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.240
<v Speaker 1>way you do it, where you're trying to get information

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>from the people on the team, You're trying to get

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.560
<v Speaker 1>information from the players. You're trying to get the real

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>time information. Whereas your brandle has always taken more of

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the Peter alis mold. He doesn't want to get friendly

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>with the players, he doesn't want to come to the range.

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't want to It's he he doesn't want to

0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>have his view skewed by other information. How do you

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>balance that? Because I do think that if you are

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>going to talk, you need to talk from a position

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of strength. You need to talk from a position of knowledge.

0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's one thing I get asked a lot is like,

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.279
<v Speaker 2>how do you balance you know, being a working relationship

0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>and a friendly relationship. And I'm so new from quitting

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 2>this game that I mean all these a lot of

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.439
<v Speaker 2>these guys are still my best friends in the world.

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 2>That's who I hang out with when I'm on the road,

0:44:47.680 --> 0:44:50.520
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm very careful of If someone gives me

0:44:50.560 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 2>something and I think it's interesting, I'll ask if I

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>can use it. There is no doubt about it. And

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>that's why when I follow Dust and I follow Brooks, like,

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm texting you and asking you for inner any information,

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.760
<v Speaker 2>because I want to know that my information is correct.

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to just go out there and guess

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and be like, hey, this is what I think he's

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:08.719
<v Speaker 2>working on. Like why do that when I can text

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Claude Harmon and be like, this is what they're working on,

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 2>and so let's look for that today. If that makes sense,

0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I think.

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>You need I mean personally, I think you need to

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 1>do that. I think if you're gonna if you're gonna

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about what's going on, you better kind of have

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a good idea as to what the guys are trying

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>to do and what they're wanting to do. What have

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>you found hard about the role Cole, anything that you've

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.719
<v Speaker 1>found hard, because it looks like it's all really really

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>easy to you.

0:45:36.800 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, Ever since I got to go down on

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 2>the ground, it's it's felt pretty easy for the most part,

0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:44.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, I still, you know, do all my homework

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and everything. But I think the thing you go back

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to is, you know, just you never want to cross

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that line. You know. I still go out to dinner

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:53.480
<v Speaker 2>with Justin Jordan and those guys when I'm on the road,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 2>and they treat me normal. But at the same time,

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 2>I know, I hope they know that they can trust me.

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And then I'm now are gonna be like, oh, you

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't believe what he said at dinner last night, and

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>just throw somebody under the bus, because at the end

0:46:05.920 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>of the day, those friendships and relationships are much more

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 2>important than me, you know, saying something that I think

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.080
<v Speaker 2>will get me some clicks out in the media world.

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 2>That's that's my number one thing. But for the most part,

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.440
<v Speaker 2>everything's been great. Man. The guys are great, great to me.

0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said, going to the range at

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the US Open, you know, I'm always gonna be out there.

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:25.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be seen. Whether they want to talk to me,

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 2>that's up to them, but I'm not shy to go

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 2>up say hi, good luck, and then if a conversation

0:46:29.160 --> 0:46:32.280
<v Speaker 2>breaks out, it's great, And I think that just helps

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 2>me do my job better, you know, I don't know

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 2>if I helped them relax it all or not. But

0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>you know there's times when Ricky on Saturday I'll never forget,

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:41.760
<v Speaker 2>went up and him and his him and his caddie

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 2>who I've known forever. We started talking and his caddie,

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Ricky Romano, is a member at Mesa Country Club here

0:46:46.640 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 2>in Scottsdale. And I said, you know, I got to

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 2>play Mesa Country Club for the first time the other day,

0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:53.480
<v Speaker 2>and it just turned into this conversation. Ricky midwarm up,

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 2>turned around, He's like, oh, what'd you think all this?

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 2>He goes tell me more about it, and I could

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 2>see Sam mcnott and just staring at me, like go away,

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:04.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, dude, he started this conversation. I'm just

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 2>sitting here. Please don't kill me. But man, yeah, everything's

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 2>been so great, Like CBS is like when we're talking

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:13.839
<v Speaker 2>about scheduling everything. I was like, look, guys, I'll work

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.480
<v Speaker 2>every week. I really do. I love it that much.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 2>It is so much fun to go out there, and

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 2>it's crazy now to get recognized more for this than

0:47:21.560 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 2>when I actually played out there on the PGA tour.

0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 1>We couldn't have you on colt without asking your opinion

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on all the craziness of the last two weeks, the

0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>supposed merger between the PIF and the PGA Tour and

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Live Did you did you see this coming?

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Did you? Did you?

0:47:40.440 --> 0:47:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Did you think it would happen? No?

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I mean, I think when that news came

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 2>out that morning, I think we all thought it was

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.759
<v Speaker 2>a joke, just because there was no talk of it

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 2>or anything like this. And hearing everything Jay had to say, Like,

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I've been a huge j Monahan fan. He has been

0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 2>great to me. I thought he did a great job.

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.239
<v Speaker 2>And now without everything that happens, obviously he's been very

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 2>hypocritical with everything that The stance he took in Canada

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>last year when he was in the booth with Jim

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Nance was obviously extremely aggressive and saying, you know, have

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 2>have you ever had to apologize for being on the

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour and then turning the one eighty and saying

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna merge and we're gonna be you know, supported

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:21.200
<v Speaker 2>by the p IF. It was it was shocking. You know,

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.840
<v Speaker 2>there's still so much I think that we have to

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 2>learn and figure out what's gonna what's gonna happen. I

0:48:26.320 --> 0:48:28.760
<v Speaker 2>know there was a meeting just recently at Travelers where

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 2>players came out and obviously there there wasn't as much tension,

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>but there's still they have no answers, which I think

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>is the biggest problem. I think this this announcement got rushed.

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they thought it was gonna get

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 2>leaked or what it was, but it was so rushed.

0:48:42.040 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fact that no one knew about it

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 2>but other than three or four people is really surprising

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 2>in today's world. But to come out and just say, hey,

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.879
<v Speaker 2>we're merging. We don't really know our plan, but here

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.320
<v Speaker 2>we go. I know that Roff lied a lot of

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>feathers the wrong way. Considering, like you said, I mean, well,

0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 2>if you like it or not, lives there and lives

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 2>got Infinity money, and a lot of the guys turned

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.680
<v Speaker 2>down massive contracts that they could have went over there

0:49:06.719 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>and made hundreds of millions of dollars. And then now,

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>if it works the way people were thinking is they

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 2>get to come back and see it on the PGA tour.

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be some pissed off people if that happens,

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And I get it, you know, my whole stance the

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 2>entire time is I want the best players in the

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 2>world playing together as much as possible. You know, I

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the behind the scenes like Phil Mickelson did,

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, obviously he's been very outspoken about it.

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Him and I talked at the US Open. I don't

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 2>know what their books look like. I don't know any

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff. That's not me. I'm just I'm a

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.080
<v Speaker 2>golf fan. I work in golf, I work on the

0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour. I'm a fan, and I just want to

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 2>see these guys out there. Like I said earlier, I

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:46.239
<v Speaker 2>missed seeing Dustin and a aj out there. I want

0:49:46.239 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 2>to see these guys battling it out. People give me

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 2>a shit all the time about saying how I'm a

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.200
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour shield. Listen, that's the tour I cover. But

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm also, at the end of the day, a golf fan.

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I walked with Brooks and Bryson Saturday at the PGA.

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 2>I sold sellers, give it to me, I'll go with them.

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 2>And I called it just like I would any other thing.

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I called it when they hit great shots, I called

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:07.880
<v Speaker 2>it when they hit bad shots. I made jokes here

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:10.919
<v Speaker 2>and there that I did my job, and I will

0:50:10.960 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 2>always do my job. But if someone asked me my opinion,

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm also gonna give it. And I just think it

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 2>sucks in today's world when you give an opinion and

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 2>someone disagrees with it, they think you're the biggest scum

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 2>on the on the planet. Like, like you and I

0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 2>are friends. We don't agree about everything, but we're still friends.

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Like what's wrong with that? We disagree on things all

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the time, but at the end of the day we

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:31.440
<v Speaker 2>can go share a beer and dinner and still get

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.799
<v Speaker 2>along great.

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Pre the announcement, did you, I mean, obviously being a

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>did you watch any of the live stuff? Did you

0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:41.319
<v Speaker 1>watch any of the tournaments?

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I've watched. I don't watch every single round, but I

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 2>at some point in the week I have tuned in

0:50:47.239 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and watched a part part of it. Listen, there's a

0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:53.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of great players out there. Am I the biggest

0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 2>fan of the format? No? Do? I?

0:50:55.640 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, so, having watched it, are there things that

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:02.160
<v Speaker 1>you like about it and things that you don't like

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 1>about lift?

0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I like the not the political stuff, but yeah, the

0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:11.319
<v Speaker 1>actual way that the tournaments in the format and the

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:14.160
<v Speaker 1>way the broadcast looks is there anything that you've gone okay,

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't mind that, and then there's things you've gone No,

0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that.

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Now I think it's cool. How I mean they fly

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.920
<v Speaker 2>around in the broadcast, they show so many shots, but

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, as a person who doesn't know

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:25.759
<v Speaker 2>what that golf course is, I have no idea what

0:51:25.840 --> 0:51:27.799
<v Speaker 2>number eight is. I have no idea what number twelve is.

0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I think it's great, like people want shot shot shots,

0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.880
<v Speaker 2>but also like, okay, is this a hard shot? Is

0:51:33.880 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 2>it a tough shot? What is this hole? Like? Is

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.040
<v Speaker 2>he jammed up here? I have no idea, you know,

0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 2>the shotgun start that's just not that's not for me.

0:51:41.880 --> 0:51:43.960
<v Speaker 2>That's just my opinion. Like I want the leaders teeing

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 2>off last coming up eighteen, Like I don't want to

0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.160
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to know. Like if I'm finishing

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:52.319
<v Speaker 2>on eighteen and I'm tied with Brooks Koepka and he's

0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 2>finishing on two, is to a birdie hole? Wait? Is

0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.600
<v Speaker 2>this whole harder? Like what? There's just so much involved,

0:51:57.640 --> 0:51:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Like I want everybody to play this. I know they're

0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:01.319
<v Speaker 2>playing at the same time, which is great because you

0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:04.880
<v Speaker 2>never have to worry about bad waves. Or anything. But

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I just I like the leaders coming up last with

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 2>a massive gallery around and everything like that. You know,

0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the team thing hasn't sold me yet. Maybe one day

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 2>it will. Like I'm just, I guess a traditionalist in that,

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:20.080
<v Speaker 2>Like professional golf is an individual sport. That's what makes

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:22.319
<v Speaker 2>it different. Like I use the example of tennis, right,

0:52:23.480 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 2>are the ratings better in the in the finals of

0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 2>the singles in major championships or the finals of the doubles?

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Like just no, no one cares about that part. That's

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 2>not what tennis is. The music is what it is.

0:52:35.160 --> 0:52:36.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't really care. I listen to music

0:52:36.880 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 2>when I play play golf at home, durerent. Professional golf

0:52:39.760 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 2>it's not normally out there, but it's different. It's it's

0:52:43.800 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 2>been a disruptor, there's no doubt about it. I don't

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:48.080
<v Speaker 2>mind different things, but I don't think I should get

0:52:48.080 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 2>hated on if I say, hey, I don't like watching

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.760
<v Speaker 2>the live broadcast, like I would rather watch the PGA

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Tour broadcast. I don't want to watch the XFL. I

0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.360
<v Speaker 2>want to watch the NFL. That's just that's just my

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:57.360
<v Speaker 2>personal opinion.

0:52:57.920 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've been saying for a couple you know

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>of months now you know I'm a big Formula one guy.

0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to know Denny Hemlin because I've helped him

0:53:06.640 --> 0:53:10.319
<v Speaker 1>for with his golf. He races NASCAR. If he's got

0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a chance to win, I'll watch, but if he's not,

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:14.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch it. It doesn't mean that I don't

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like the sport. It doesn't mean that I don't have

0:53:16.520 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 1>an appreciation for what they do. I got to go

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to Homestead, the race in Miami with Denny and hang

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:23.280
<v Speaker 1>out of this bus and hang out in the pits,

0:53:23.320 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>and it was unbelievable. And to watch all the things

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that he has to do as a race car driver

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was amazing to me. But I tend to I mean,

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with Formula One. I have been for years,

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 1>even before the Drive to Survive because I lived in

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Europe for so much of my life. I watched the qualifying,

0:53:41.120 --> 0:53:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I watched the practice. That's my jam. And it doesn't

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 1>mean that I don't think that NASCAR is great, and

0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:50.880
<v Speaker 1>it's been. I think it's just my opinion cult. But

0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that Jay wanted the fans, in my opinion,

0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 1>to choose between Live or the PGA Tour and it

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.520
<v Speaker 1>seemed to me that he wanted you to choose, and

0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:05.520
<v Speaker 1>I kept saying, listen, if you like watching golf, there's

0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:08.000
<v Speaker 1>some great golf being played. I mean, honestly call it.

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a straight shooter. I saw DJ play

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.279
<v Speaker 1>some of the best golf that he's played in a

0:54:13.320 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>long time. Last summer. I saw Cam Smith play some

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:22.440
<v Speaker 1>great golf. Peter u Liine and Pete Reid are playing

0:54:22.480 --> 0:54:26.080
<v Speaker 1>some great golf. So there is some great golf being played.

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:29.279
<v Speaker 1>And I think one of the positive things is once

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody got to the Masters and Brooks did what he did,

0:54:34.840 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Phil did what he did, and Patrick reed, I think

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.359
<v Speaker 1>there were a lot of people that thought that that

0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to happen. I think a lot of people

0:54:41.880 --> 0:54:43.680
<v Speaker 1>thought that those guys were going to show up in

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>big tournaments now and not be able to play. And

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:50.440
<v Speaker 1>as a player, you and I both know it doesn't

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>matter where you're winning golf tournaments. If you're winning a

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of golf tournaments on the mini tours, that means

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing the right things. And I think if

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you're winning golf wordless of where you're winning, it means

0:55:03.160 --> 0:55:05.520
<v Speaker 1>that you're playing great golf. And that was the thing

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 1>that I think upset me the most is I was

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 1>seeing these guys work as hard as they've always worked,

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and I think the golf. Everybody kept saying the golf

0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is different, and I was like, the golf isn't any different.

0:55:18.960 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 1>The golf might be different, Yeah, the golf not any different.

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 1>You still got to go out there.

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:24.240
<v Speaker 2>You can only beat who you're teeing it up against,

0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:28.280
<v Speaker 2>which you know Brooks Kopka's won twice out there. Dustin Johnson,

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe he's won twice out there. Now, like you said,

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:32.920
<v Speaker 2>it's it's your opinion. Do you want to watch golf,

0:55:32.960 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 2>then turn it on. It's very simple. If you don't

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 2>want to watch it, great, You know those guys, if

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:42.399
<v Speaker 2>they have time to prepare now, I would say if

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:44.200
<v Speaker 2>they did a good job of making their schedule the

0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.200
<v Speaker 2>way it is so that therefore they can kind of

0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 2>get some get some starts before the major championships, because

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 2>if they didn't start their schedule till you know, middle

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 2>of April and the Masters was their first tournament four months,

0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think, as you know a player, you'd probably

0:55:57.080 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 2>feel a little rusty going in. So they've done a

0:55:59.000 --> 0:56:00.840
<v Speaker 2>great job. But as I said at the start of

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 2>the show, I thought brooks Koepka when when he won

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:06.799
<v Speaker 2>in Orlando and he looked really healthy, I thought we

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:10.160
<v Speaker 2>were about to see another dominant major performance by brooks Kepka,

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:12.839
<v Speaker 2>and it's it's starting to turn out that way. Well.

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:14.719
<v Speaker 1>One of the things behind the scene that you know,

0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:17.840
<v Speaker 1>because I've been a part of Live since it started,

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 1>that's not by choice, it's just all my guys went

0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:25.560
<v Speaker 1>to Live. But the tournament in Orlando, they added that

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.640
<v Speaker 1>tournament because the players that were going to be playing

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:31.400
<v Speaker 1>in the Masters said hey, can we have another tournament

0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:33.880
<v Speaker 1>week before the Masters so we can get some more reps.

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So in that respect, I think that that's not something

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people that are against Live realized.

0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:45.799
<v Speaker 1>It has been very very player centric. I remember the

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>first one in London less than a you know, a

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>year ago. It finished on Saturday so that they could

0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>get everybody that was playing in the US Open. Everybody

0:56:56.480 --> 0:56:59.480
<v Speaker 1>could either leave Saturday night or Sunday and get to

0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.839
<v Speaker 1>the US and because we were in London. So in

0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that respect, I think they've done some cool things. Do

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:10.839
<v Speaker 1>you think Colt not Live coming about has made some

0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 1>positive change. I mean one of the positive changes that

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I think coming about is I mean last year, if

0:57:15.600 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you before Live London, if somebody would have told you, hey,

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:22.560
<v Speaker 1>there is going to be a pathway for college golfers

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>now to immediately get onto the corn ferry. I think

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 1>if Live doesn't come around, I don't know if that happens.

0:57:31.440 --> 0:57:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And I think that is something that as soon as

0:57:33.520 --> 0:57:36.479
<v Speaker 1>it happened, everybody said should have happened ten years ago.

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:38.920
<v Speaker 2>The two things that come to my mind when I

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.720
<v Speaker 2>think about what positive things Live has brought to the game.

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Obviously a lot of money for these guys because the

0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:46.480
<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour had to step up and be like, okay,

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 2>there's another option for guys to go play. If we

0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.680
<v Speaker 2>don't react and improve, like, we could lose some of

0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:54.320
<v Speaker 2>our top guys, which they did lose some, but they

0:57:54.320 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 2>could have lost more. They got a lot more money involved,

0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 2>which is great. Is it sustainable? Don't? Maybe this is

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:02.960
<v Speaker 2>what this whole PIF thing's about. And the other thing

0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>is what you mentioned PGA two are you. I am

0:58:05.480 --> 0:58:08.400
<v Speaker 2>a huge fan of this, you know. I think Lives

0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 2>one of the things they could have done to make

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:12.200
<v Speaker 2>their tour really strong is to get all the top

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>college players out and now with this program, how you

0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.960
<v Speaker 2>can have the number one guy get direct access to

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 2>the PGA Tour, the next nine get access out on

0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:21.960
<v Speaker 2>the corn Ferry Tour. I mean, look what's just happened

0:58:22.000 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 2>since NC double As The first two winners on the

0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 2>corn Ferry Tour are PGA Tour Are you guys? And

0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:30.200
<v Speaker 2>then fred Byondi who won NC double As individually contended

0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.840
<v Speaker 2>in his first one. So this is great for these guys.

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 2>I love that they can get out there right now

0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and try to get their feet wet in professional golf.

0:58:37.520 --> 0:58:39.840
<v Speaker 2>And hell, I mean, I don't want to butcher the

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.280
<v Speaker 2>guy's name that won the first won the BMW just

0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>a couple weeks ago, but then he finished high up

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and recently in Wichitall and he's already seventh on that

0:58:46.440 --> 0:58:48.560
<v Speaker 2>corn Ferry Tour points list. Like he's gonna play his

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:49.919
<v Speaker 2>way on the PGA Tour most likely.

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So where does this end up in your opinion? I

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.920
<v Speaker 1>heard rumors at Scotty Golden Offer. I mean, I know

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>that Scotty was asking about questions. Scotty said that one

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of the reasons he didn't go is because he was

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:09.920
<v Speaker 1>told by Jay and the guys in Ponavidra that there

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 1>was no pathway back, and now it seems like there

0:59:15.880 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 1>is going to It sounds like there's going to be

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a pathway back. But one of the things that nobody's

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:24.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about is if Live continues, which I think it

0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>probably will for the for twenty four and then might

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:32.320
<v Speaker 1>morph into something different. But if Live continues in the

0:59:32.320 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>same way that it's continued fourteen events and then you've

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.560
<v Speaker 1>got guys playing in the majors, the players that I've

0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>talked to Colt, there's this big I think it's a

0:59:43.680 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>myth that everybody wants to rush back and start playing

0:59:47.240 --> 0:59:50.280
<v Speaker 1>every week on the PGA Tour. Some of the players

0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to have said, listen, I'd play maybe two

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe three tournaments max. And there are tournaments that I've

0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:01.320
<v Speaker 1>won at, there's tournaments that I like, the course, whatever.

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.840
<v Speaker 1>So where do you see all of this playing out?

1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>And is there a way that you could see that

1:00:09.840 --> 1:00:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Live in the PGA Tour coexist in the same way

1:00:13.400 --> 1:00:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that Live in the DP World and I mean the

1:00:16.520 --> 1:00:20.560
<v Speaker 1>PG Tour and DP World, PGA Tour in Asia, all

1:00:20.600 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>those things. Do you see there's a way to coexist.

1:00:24.480 --> 1:00:26.720
<v Speaker 2>On your first point about not everybody wanting to come back,

1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, I agree with you on that. I'm whether

1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 2>people believe it or not. I'm still very friendly with

1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the guys that play on live. I

1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:34.800
<v Speaker 2>talked to him a lot, and I'm not going to

1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:36.360
<v Speaker 2>use his name, but I was talking to one last

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 2>week at the US Open, and he's like, cold, I

1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:41.320
<v Speaker 2>don't want to come back. He goes, I am having

1:00:41.360 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 2>a great life out here. I have four kids at home.

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I get to spend a lot more time with them.

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:47.720
<v Speaker 2>I was like, dude, I respect that. That is perfectly fine.

1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Like at least you're owning up to. The problem I

1:00:49.920 --> 1:00:52.520
<v Speaker 2>had at the start was when everybody complained about how

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:54.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't want to play this many events. They can

1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 2>go do this and they can only play at start

1:00:58.080 --> 1:00:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I think it was eight Now it's fourteen events. They

1:00:59.640 --> 1:01:01.400
<v Speaker 2>get to spend more time, but then all of a sudden,

1:01:01.400 --> 1:01:03.080
<v Speaker 2>they're fighting to play more tournaments, and I'm like, Okay,

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:04.280
<v Speaker 2>well which one is it. Do you want to play

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:05.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of tournaments or do you not want to

1:01:05.800 --> 1:01:07.600
<v Speaker 2>play a lot of tournaments. So for that guy, like

1:01:07.640 --> 1:01:10.240
<v Speaker 2>I totally get it. You know, is there going to

1:01:10.280 --> 1:01:12.920
<v Speaker 2>be a pathway back? I don't know. I don't know

1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:15.160
<v Speaker 2>what the whole thing, what's gonna come of this. Obviously,

1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yaser is gonna have a big say in everything. I mean,

1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:22.280
<v Speaker 2>he's the money behind this. The PGA Tour says, you know,

1:01:22.320 --> 1:01:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they've agreed that they're going to stay in control. So

1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:27.120
<v Speaker 2>there's just so many like I don't understand in my opinion,

1:01:27.160 --> 1:01:28.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why the guy with all the money

1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:31.320
<v Speaker 2>who's putting it up is going to have no say.

1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.640
<v Speaker 2>But you listen to Jimmy Dunn, you listen to Jay Monahan.

1:01:34.840 --> 1:01:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Now take Jay Monahan's word for what it's worth. Right now,

1:01:37.800 --> 1:01:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean people are like, hey, he's lied once, why

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.120
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't he lie again? So I get that. Jimmy Dunn

1:01:42.320 --> 1:01:44.720
<v Speaker 2>has been very outspoken. He's the one who's given us

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the most information of anyone. And so if things go

1:01:48.360 --> 1:01:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the way Jimmy says, yes, there will be a pathway

1:01:51.240 --> 1:01:54.640
<v Speaker 2>back and one day, you know, I just I want

1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I want the best in the world to be there.

1:01:56.080 --> 1:01:57.240
<v Speaker 2>We got to figure out a lot of things. You

1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.840
<v Speaker 2>got to figure out the world rankings, because there's there's

1:02:00.160 --> 1:02:02.320
<v Speaker 2>as it lived that their ranking has fallen so far

1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 2>that they're not going to be in the majors and

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 2>that sucks. Like Bryson should be in the majors, Patrick

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Reed should be in the majors. Obviously Brooks is going

1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to be in the majors, Dustin is going to be

1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:11.760
<v Speaker 2>in them. But there's some Taylor goots, Like what happened

1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:15.120
<v Speaker 2>to him at the US Open. I disagreed with I

1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 2>flat out side, Like he qualified. I get it, it was

1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 2>he qualified through a PGA Tour category, but that was

1:02:20.280 --> 1:02:21.640
<v Speaker 2>wrong to take that away from him.

1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And then you've got mikes And then you've got Mike

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Wand from the USJA coming out in the middle of

1:02:26.280 --> 1:02:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that controversy saying I don't care about the quality of

1:02:29.120 --> 1:02:31.080
<v Speaker 1>the field. I was just like, dude, what are you doing?

1:02:32.520 --> 1:02:33.000
<v Speaker 2>How are you?

1:02:33.200 --> 1:02:36.000
<v Speaker 1>How are you running the USGA And you've got the

1:02:36.120 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 1>US SO but it's one of the four majors that

1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you are actually on record saying you don't care about

1:02:40.920 --> 1:02:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the quality of the field. I just couldn't. I just

1:02:43.560 --> 1:02:45.120
<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe that comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sometimes the mouth moves faster than the brain, and

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<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling he probably was like oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't have said that. That's not very good at a

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<v Speaker 2>major championship or ever. But my biggest thing is, like

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<v Speaker 2>I just it's we got to sit back and just

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<v Speaker 2>see what happens because we don't know enough. We're all

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<v Speaker 2>just speculating what's gonna happen. You know. I hate the

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<v Speaker 2>division in golf. I hate that some people over there

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<v Speaker 2>and some other people are over here, Like I want

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<v Speaker 2>as whether it's twelve events, fourteen events a year, the

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<v Speaker 2>best players in the world because for the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 2>just on their side, Like the designated events have gone

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<v Speaker 2>so well, they have been so exciting. We've had incredible

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<v Speaker 2>leader boards. We've had the random, you know, long shot

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<v Speaker 2>coming up and contending against the guys. Nick Taylor I

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<v Speaker 2>comes to mind at Phoenix and now he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>Kitty Bayhill, Great Kitty Yama exactly. I mean, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys and that's why I mean, I disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of the PGA Tours do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>love the money, this limited field, no cut thing, I hate,

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrible. I like the way things are. I like

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<v Speaker 2>the openness of the PGA Tour, being able to qualify

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<v Speaker 2>and get in the mix and having a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>you've never heard of, or at least the average golf

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<v Speaker 2>fan has never heard of up there competing with Roy

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<v Speaker 2>McElroy jordan' speith on a Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's interesting times. Do you does Jay survive?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're on the PGA Tour and you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to what Jay said, you listen to probably what

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<v Speaker 1>Jay was telling you, what Jay was telling your agent,

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<v Speaker 1>what Jay was telling everybody on your team, stay loyal,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no pathway back. The PGA Tour is the place

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<v Speaker 1>to be and then nine to eleven human rights, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. So if you were still playing, would you

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<v Speaker 1>be saying I mean, I talked to a player at

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<v Speaker 1>the Grove Sunday before we went out to the US

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<v Speaker 1>Open who is currently still playing on tour, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll never believe anything anyone from Pana Vidra, from the

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour. J Monahan tells me again, I will never

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<v Speaker 1>believe that this is a player that has won tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>He has won, he's had a great career, and he said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just going to be hard for me moving forward

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<v Speaker 1>to believe them. So where do they go? And how

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<v Speaker 1>do they try and get the player's confidence back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that's the big question is because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean everything took a one to eighty with that announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, for the average guy like listen, they

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<v Speaker 2>might have gotten a small live off for whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the big guys are the ones who turned down

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<v Speaker 2>all the money and said trust us, stay with us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you leave, you can't come back all

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<v Speaker 2>this and then all of a sudden, boom, it flips. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd have a hard time trusting that guy, you know. Especially.

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<v Speaker 2>Another thing he kept saying throughout this whole time is

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<v Speaker 2>it's the player's tour, right, I'm I'm just there to

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<v Speaker 2>run it. I go through the players. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>player's tour. Well, you just made this decision without talking

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<v Speaker 2>to any players. So therefore that puts a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>doubt in the leadership. Now can they swim out of it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I probably think they can. Honestly, having Jimmy Dunn involved,

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<v Speaker 2>which he's so close to a lot of the players,

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<v Speaker 2>I think can can help a lot. But they got

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work to do. They have so much

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<v Speaker 2>work to do to get these the trust back in

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<v Speaker 2>these players. Does he survive? Man, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know how the hell. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>the players can come together and vote him off. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how any of that works. I was never

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<v Speaker 2>on the pack or any of that, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure how that process goes. But I just know they

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of work ahead of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody player, caddy, agent, manufacturer, broadcast partner, reporter, nobody knows anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it comes out the Jays come down with some

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<v Speaker 1>health issues. Nobody knows any information about that. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>part of Live and you come back to the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour ecosystem, all you do is get questions about Live.

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<v Speaker 1>And after the Masters, when all the guys went back

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<v Speaker 1>to the next live event and got back into the

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<v Speaker 1>live ecosystem, everybody that didn't go to the Masters, all

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<v Speaker 1>the players, all the caddies, everybody was asking us, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like?

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the sting and some of the the animosity

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<v Speaker 1>in the venom was out. Because now the live guys

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<v Speaker 1>are in the same group as the PGA Tour goes,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a clue what the hell's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think going back to a gust everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was hoping there was gonna be this massive animosity between

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<v Speaker 2>the guys, there'd be some scene or something happened. Dude,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not how it is. These guys still hang out,

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<v Speaker 2>they practice together, they play together, they still talk a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think the Masters was a big one to

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<v Speaker 2>answer all that. Then the PGA happened and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, But now they're like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>two events we've played. There's been no issues, like, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't need to talk about it this week. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think the US Open is that range was down there

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<v Speaker 2>and it was kind of secluded. There was no gallery

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<v Speaker 2>members down there or anything, so guys could just sit

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<v Speaker 2>down there and mucket up if they wanted, talk about

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<v Speaker 2>whatever they wanted, talk about sports like and just show

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<v Speaker 2>that like, hey, we're still friends, Like this is no

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<v Speaker 2>big deal. He made a choice to go over here

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<v Speaker 2>and play golf. I don't hate him for it. He

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<v Speaker 2>made a hundred and something million dollars. Good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Why wouldn't you take that? But you know what, now

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<v Speaker 2>he's here this week, we can hang out like old times.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Gary Woodland, who's one of my best friends

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, played both of his practice rounds with

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks and Dustin like, there's there's none of that between

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<v Speaker 2>these guys. I just think there's some players that are

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<v Speaker 2>very frustrated with the fact that they got told one

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<v Speaker 2>thing about going over there, and now it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>it might go the other way. But we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have to sit back and wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, your podcasts, SuPAR with your cohort Drew Stoltz. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been surprised by the popularity and what have you

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<v Speaker 1>liked about doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>I really have. Yeah. I w when golf dot Com

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<v Speaker 2>came to us, I don't know how long ago it

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<v Speaker 2>was and said would you be interested in doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>We're like, yeah, we'll try it and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's it's gone way different than I thought it would.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. Obviously we have a great relationship with so

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<v Speaker 2>many of the guys, but just the success of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, when I'm going up and down Fairways, people

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<v Speaker 2>yelling Birdie juice and who's on the pod next and

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<v Speaker 2>all this, it's great. It's I love that people are

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<v Speaker 2>tuned in and listening to it and I have so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun. I mean, I don't know how you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about doing it, but it's just for me, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>just want these guys to come in and feel like

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<v Speaker 2>there's no microphone. It's just three dudes or two dudes

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<v Speaker 2>in a great LPGA golfer sitting down and just chopping

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<v Speaker 2>it up and having a good time and showing that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, everyone here is just a human and

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<v Speaker 2>we can we can have fun, we can talk about

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<v Speaker 2>other things. But yes, I'm very surprised of how well

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<v Speaker 2>it's gone. But it's been a it's been a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you've got a studio. I'm doing this from

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<v Speaker 1>my kitchen. I mean I've never felt more kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, insignificant and inferior to you with your big

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<v Speaker 1>studio and all that. I'm doing this all on the fly.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got shit propped up here, the cameras are going off.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any of that problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Cold Yeah, I think you're doing just fine. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>stress too much about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I appreciate you coming on the pot. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ever need me to come on you know subpart I

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<v Speaker 1>will do it. But are you coming over for the British.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not so NBC has that, so I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>off and I'm actually gonna have two weeks off, which

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<v Speaker 2>i haven't felt like I've done it forever, So a

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<v Speaker 2>little downtime and then we roll through the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>then I'm gonna just take a little break. I need,

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<v Speaker 2>I need some sleep. I'm having too much fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you're doing a great job and continued success.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Scott. I really appreciate it. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was cult ghost and listen, you're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>opinions from Colton and that's why I like it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that what Colt said is is something

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<v Speaker 1>that that I think is really important. Listen, Colt is

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<v Speaker 1>a big PGA tour guy, and rightly so. He played

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<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour, he broadcasts for CBS. They broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>the PGA Tour. He gets a lot of grief for

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<v Speaker 1>his stance as someone that is pro PGA tour on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. I don't have a problem with that. And

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<v Speaker 1>Colt is somebody that I respect. I like his opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the fact that he has opinions. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know we see eye to eye, but he's certainly not

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<v Speaker 1>somebody that I'm not going to talk to because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't see eyed ie on what's going on with Live.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's informed. I think he is thoughtful in

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<v Speaker 1>what he says, and I think there is an irreverence

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<v Speaker 1>about what he says and his takes and opinions. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I like. And that's why I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>doing great on TV because he says things that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are thinking. And he also says things

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<v Speaker 1>that people say, man, I can't believe you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's what makes great TV. So thank

1:11:09.720 --> 1:11:12.639
<v Speaker 1>him for coming on. If you don't listen to his podcast, Subpar,

1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:16.400
<v Speaker 1>check it out. He's got some great guests and they've

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<v Speaker 1>got some great shows and they're doing great stuff over there,

1:11:19.680 --> 1:11:22.280
<v Speaker 1>he and his partner Drew Stoltz. If you don't listen,

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<v Speaker 1>check it out. Keep checking out Son of a Butch.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna keep getting some really really good guests, one

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<v Speaker 1>more major coming up, and lots and lots to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about in the coming weeks and the coming months. Subscribe

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