WEBVTT - S1 E1: It Didn’t Go Off

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<v Speaker 1>Rip Current is a production of iHeart Podcasts. The views

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<v Speaker 2>Is it vie.

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<v Speaker 3>Are California.

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<v Speaker 4>Just before ten am on September fifth, nineteen seventy five,

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<v Speaker 4>President Gerald Ford walked with a security detail on a

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<v Speaker 4>path through Capitol Park on the grounds of the California

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<v Speaker 4>Capitol Building in Sacramento. The path was lined with members

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<v Speaker 4>of the public. State policemen were president at intervals along

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<v Speaker 4>the route. A small woman wearing a bright red dress

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<v Speaker 4>maneuvered her way through the crowd and approached the President

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<v Speaker 4>as he passed.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a gun.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name was Lynnette from.

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<v Speaker 5>Good Evening in CALIFORNI you today. President Ford looked down

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<v Speaker 5>the barrel of a loaded automatic held by a red

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<v Speaker 5>haired woman in a long red dress. But the gun

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<v Speaker 5>didn't go off, and he's all right. The woman was

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<v Speaker 5>wrestled to the ground by a secret serviceman and the

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<v Speaker 5>President was hustled away. She is being charged with attempted

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<v Speaker 5>murder of the President. She is twenty six year old

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<v Speaker 5>Lynette Alice from nicknamed Squeaky.

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<v Speaker 6>Less than three weeks later, on September twenty second, a

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<v Speaker 6>woman named Sarah Jane Moore stood in a similar crowd

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<v Speaker 6>assembled across the street from the Saint Francis Hotel in

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<v Speaker 6>San Francisco. The President emerged from the side entrance and

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<v Speaker 6>walked towards his waiting limousine. Moore fired a single shot

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<v Speaker 6>before she was wrestled to the ground.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a CBS News special report.

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<v Speaker 2>Here CBS News correspondent Walder Cronkait.

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<v Speaker 8>A woman fired a shot at President Ford in San

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<v Speaker 8>Francisco this afternoon, but a policeman deflected the pistol and

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<v Speaker 8>the President was not hit. The woman was in a

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<v Speaker 8>crowd across the street about thirty five or forty feet away.

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<v Speaker 8>As the President was leaving the Saint Francis Hotel to

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<v Speaker 8>enter his limousine to return to Washington. Witnesses heard the

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<v Speaker 8>sound and saw a puff of smoke. The woman, identified

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<v Speaker 8>by police as Sarah Jane Moore in her forties, was

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<v Speaker 8>immediately seized. When the shot was fired, the President was

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<v Speaker 8>shoved into his car and wished to the airport, where

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<v Speaker 8>Air Force one was waiting to fly him to Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>He was not hurt, and at the airport appeared calm

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<v Speaker 8>and unperturbed.

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<v Speaker 4>In nearly two hundred and fifty years of United States history,

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<v Speaker 4>there are only two times that we know of that

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<v Speaker 4>a woman has tried to assassinate a US president. The

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<v Speaker 4>two attempts were separated by seventeen days and less than

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<v Speaker 4>ninety miles.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Toby Ball and I'm Mary Catherine Garrison, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is rip current.

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<v Speaker 9>I saw a woman start to go down and her

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<v Speaker 9>arm go back, and I saw the gun, the big

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<v Speaker 9>black gun.

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<v Speaker 10>I got it out of her hand, and she.

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<v Speaker 9>Kept saying, easy fellas, Easy fellas.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 6>Episode one, it didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 4>So the idea for this podcast came as I was

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<v Speaker 4>doing research on a related topic, radical groups in the

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen seventies. I was going down these different rabbit holes,

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<v Speaker 4>and at the end of one I came across Sarah

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<v Speaker 4>Jane Moore and from there Lynette From.

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<v Speaker 6>I came to this story by way of Broadway. I

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<v Speaker 6>played Lynette Squeaky From in the original Broadway cast of

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<v Speaker 6>Stephen Sondheim's musical Assassins Charlie Dahn.

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<v Speaker 4>As I dug into the research, I found that there

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<v Speaker 4>was a bigger story here than just a historical oddity.

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<v Speaker 4>This was the story of two women navigating the fringes

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<v Speaker 4>of radical society. How had they arrived at this place

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<v Speaker 4>in their lives? Why was California in nineteen seventy five

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<v Speaker 4>the setting for these attempts? Why target Gerald Ford? And

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<v Speaker 4>what can we learn from their stories? These assassination attempts

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<v Speaker 4>and the stories of the two women who tried to

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<v Speaker 4>kill President gerald Ford take place in the considerable shadow

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<v Speaker 4>of what we call the sixties. There's a public perception

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<v Speaker 4>about the sixties, Hippies, Woodstock, the civil rights movement, communes, Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 4>campus protests. It's an umbrella that includes people and movements

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<v Speaker 4>that embodied different ways of reimagining what America was, could

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<v Speaker 4>and should be. And these movements continued on into the

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<v Speaker 4>early seventies. But the popular perception of the sixties only

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<v Speaker 4>reflects a certain segment of the population at that time. Many,

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<v Speaker 4>even most Americans, found these new values and ideas threatening

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<v Speaker 4>or disturbing or simply un American. Much of the mainstream

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<v Speaker 4>press agreed with this assessment.

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<v Speaker 11>When you read Time each week, you know more you understand.

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<v Speaker 4>From before World War II until the rise of the Internet,

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<v Speaker 4>Time magazine was a powerful cultural force. Their annual Person

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<v Speaker 4>of the Year.

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<v Speaker 2>Issue was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>This was the person or people Time deemed quote to

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<v Speaker 4>have done the most to influence the events of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>On January twelfth, nineteen seventy, Time magazine named Middle Americans

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<v Speaker 4>as its Men and Women of the Year for nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>sixty nine. Who were the Middle Americans?

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<v Speaker 1>The American dream that they were living was no longer

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<v Speaker 1>the dream is advertised. They feared that they were beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to lose their grip on the country. Others seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be taking over. The liberals, the radicals, the defiant young,

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<v Speaker 1>a communications industry that they often believed was lying to them. This,

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<v Speaker 1>they will say, with an air of embarrassment that such

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<v Speaker 1>a truth need be stated at all. Is the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>country in the world. Why are people trying to tear

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<v Speaker 1>it down?

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<v Speaker 4>Time Magazine took a sympathetic, though also critical view of

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<v Speaker 4>Middle Americans, those who saw the changes in the social, cultural,

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<v Speaker 4>and political landscape. Basically, the things we associate with the

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<v Speaker 4>sixties as threatening to create a country alien to the

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<v Speaker 4>one that they knew. There's racism, which shows itself in

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<v Speaker 4>concerns about the civil rights movement, but in other ways

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<v Speaker 4>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>The article says, the rising level of crime frightens the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle American, and when he speaks of crime, though he

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<v Speaker 1>does not like to admit it, he means blacks. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the idea of sacrificing their own children's education to

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<v Speaker 1>a long range improvement for blacks appalls them.

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<v Speaker 4>Time's comfort with a certain level of racism is jarring,

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<v Speaker 4>such as here talking about Middle Americans who voted for

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<v Speaker 4>the overtly racist, segregationist presidential candidate George Wallace.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not extremists of the right, despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that some of them voted for George Wallace in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 12>I say segregation, MA, segregation, the MA, and segregation forever.

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<v Speaker 4>But the Middle Americans' concerns go beyond the impacts of

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<v Speaker 4>the civil rights movement. They're worried that the radical young,

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<v Speaker 4>as Time calls them, fundamentally challenge their belief in the

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<v Speaker 4>goodness of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle Americans education does not dwell upon the agonizing moral

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<v Speaker 1>discrepancies of American history, the stories of the Indians or

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<v Speaker 1>the Blacks, or the national tradition of violence. He cannot

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<v Speaker 1>believe that the society he has come to accept as

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<v Speaker 1>the best possible on earth. The order he sees as

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<v Speaker 1>natural contains wrong so deeply built in that he does

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<v Speaker 1>not notice them. Middle Americans believe that the radical young

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<v Speaker 1>are operating on a fast misunderstanding of their nation.

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<v Speaker 4>Time uses shorthand to get this point across.

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<v Speaker 1>While the rest of the nation's youth has been watching

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<v Speaker 1>Dustin Hoffman and Midnight Cowboy, Middle America's teenagers have been

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<v Speaker 1>taking in John Wayne for the second or third time

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<v Speaker 1>in The Green Berets.

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<v Speaker 4>Midnight Cowboy is the story of a male sex worker

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<v Speaker 4>and his pimp trying to eke out a living in

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<v Speaker 4>the sedious corners of New York City.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh Hey, I'm a hustler.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>It received an X rating due to quote the homosexual

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<v Speaker 4>frame of reference and quote its possible influence on youngsters.

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<v Speaker 4>In contrast, The Green Berets was an anti communist, pro

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<v Speaker 4>Vietnam War movie. Critics observe that The Green Berets reduced

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<v Speaker 4>the ongoing war into a simple conflict of good versus evil.

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<v Speaker 14>Successful nation Mikey Yeah, but very gustly.

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<v Speaker 4>Roger Ebert gave it zero stars, but Middle America apparently

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<v Speaker 4>ate up the raw patriotism. We'll continue to use these

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<v Speaker 4>terms Middle America and the Radical Young as a shorthand

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<v Speaker 4>to broadly describe these two political and social groups in

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<v Speaker 4>the US in the late sixties and seventies.

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<v Speaker 6>Lynette From and Sarah Jane Moore's stories are very different

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<v Speaker 6>in many ways, but they share two fundamental similarities. Both

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<v Speaker 6>women had lived much of their lives in the culture

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<v Speaker 6>of Middle America, but their experiences there were difficult, and

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<v Speaker 6>then they suddenly, disorientingly became part of the most extreme

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<v Speaker 6>frontiers of the radical Young. For Sarah Jane Moore, this

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<v Speaker 6>meant immersing herself in the revolutionary philosophy the underground militants

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<v Speaker 6>in the Bay Area, including San Francisco. For Lynette From,

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<v Speaker 6>it meant joining a commune led by a guru whose

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<v Speaker 6>name would become synonymous with the darkest fears that Middle

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<v Speaker 6>America had about the Radical Young. Charles Manson on this

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<v Speaker 6>season of Rip Current, we'll look at Lynette From and

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<v Speaker 6>Sarah Janemore's lives in Middle America, their transformations as they

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<v Speaker 6>entered the world of the Radical Young, and the social

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<v Speaker 6>and political forces that led them to try to kill

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<v Speaker 6>the President of the United States in September nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think American society of the twenty first century

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<v Speaker 1>or the twenty twenties was dangerous and.

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<v Speaker 15>Violent, it's nothing.

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<v Speaker 16>Compared to what California was in the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 6>Many, many people all of the world are due to

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<v Speaker 6>be assassinated.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 15>What starts as a hippie love called transmigraphied into a

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<v Speaker 15>violent criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, would have been imber.

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<v Speaker 17>The people will be shot on prevent any.

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<v Speaker 12>Primate, any plague.

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<v Speaker 11>The worst thing in that underworld is to be an informant,

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<v Speaker 11>a snitch.

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<v Speaker 17>These people aren't just a bunch of mouths.

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<v Speaker 11>They're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not saying i'd try to take a shot.

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<v Speaker 10>I didn't take a shot without a show in the chamber.

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<v Speaker 1>I had two feet from him.

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<v Speaker 17>I could have shot twice. I was the person in

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<v Speaker 17>the intent was exactly as I stated in court, to

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<v Speaker 17>wilfully and know.

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<v Speaker 1>Any assassinate Gerald off Or the Pressman of the United.

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<v Speaker 6>States, Gerald Ford, the thirty eighth President of the United States,

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<v Speaker 6>arrived in Sacramento for the last stop of a two

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<v Speaker 6>day fundraising trip to the West coast. He had already

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<v Speaker 6>raised money in Seattle and Portland.

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<v Speaker 10>It was September the fifth, nineteen seventy five, and it

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<v Speaker 10>was to be a red letter day in the city

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<v Speaker 10>of Sacramento. The President of the United States, Gerald R. Ford,

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<v Speaker 10>was to pay us a visit.

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<v Speaker 6>This is senior US District Court Judge William Shubb speaking

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<v Speaker 6>at a twenty thirteen panel discussion of Lynnette From's trial.

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<v Speaker 10>The town was all a bustle.

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<v Speaker 7>In the morning.

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<v Speaker 10>The President was scheduled to speak to a large group

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<v Speaker 10>of California business leaders at the annual host breakfast to

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<v Speaker 10>be held in the newly constructed Sacramento Community Center.

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<v Speaker 7>Traditionally, the governor had always come and spoken to the breakfast.

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<v Speaker 7>Jerry Brown was in his first year as governor in

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventy five.

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<v Speaker 12>The people in chacrament all the people in California and

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<v Speaker 12>out in the West, can make the difference.

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<v Speaker 7>You don't even governor about eight or nine months at

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<v Speaker 7>this time, as a matter.

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<v Speaker 17>Of fact, are you get out and vote on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 7>And invited him to come and speak, and he didn't respond.

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<v Speaker 7>He kind of put him off, and it angered the sponsors.

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<v Speaker 7>My name is Dan Walders. I'm a political columnist for

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<v Speaker 7>a non fuck with journalism group called Calmatters dot Org.

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<v Speaker 7>I'd been a journalist for over sixty years, and in

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen seventy five I had just begun covering the capitol

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<v Speaker 7>for the Sacramento Union. They were mostly Republicans. They kind

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<v Speaker 7>of angered him that this kind young snotnoas kid governor

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't coming in positive them. So that the head of

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<v Speaker 7>the committee at that time was a man by the

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<v Speaker 7>name of Carlisle Reed, who happened to be the publisher

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<v Speaker 7>of the Sacramento Union, and he was well connected in

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<v Speaker 7>Republican circles. So he decided, basically, I'll teach that young

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<v Speaker 7>son of a bitch a lesson. I'll get the president

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<v Speaker 7>to come to Sacramento instead and show him up, and

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<v Speaker 7>they did. He pulled strings and got a commitment from

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<v Speaker 7>Jerry Ford he would come and speak to the host breakfast.

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<v Speaker 6>Ford received a warm welcome from the group of businessmen

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<v Speaker 6>and gave a speech guaranteed to appeal to their political sensibilities.

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<v Speaker 12>In recent years, a disproportionate percentage of new jobs has

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<v Speaker 12>come from the public sector rather than the private the

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<v Speaker 12>result has been the creation of a bureaucracy that contributes

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<v Speaker 12>very little to America's prosperity and productivity. It simply shares it.

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<v Speaker 6>His message of reducing regulatory burden was well received by

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<v Speaker 6>the largely Republican audience. Here is an unidentified attendee reacting

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<v Speaker 6>to Ford's speech.

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<v Speaker 18>Well, I think the President gave a very determined statement

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<v Speaker 18>on which he stated that we're raither going to become

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<v Speaker 18>free Americans again and cause our economy to grow, or

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<v Speaker 18>we're going to go further and further in the direction

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<v Speaker 18>of a planned, a socialistic type economy.

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<v Speaker 6>Following the speech, Ford returned from the convention Center to

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<v Speaker 6>the Senator Hotel for a brief rest before heading to

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<v Speaker 6>the state Capitol to meet with Governor Brown and address

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<v Speaker 6>the state legislature. Here's Ford testifying about that day months later.

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<v Speaker 2>And what time did you leave the hotel?

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<v Speaker 12>Approxtantly ten am that morning?

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<v Speaker 19>As I understand, you crossed the street and you were

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<v Speaker 19>proceeding along the walkway.

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<v Speaker 2>Towards the state capital. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 12>That is correct. I left the hotel, walked across L

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<v Speaker 12>Street and up a walkway from L Street to the

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<v Speaker 12>entrance to the State Capitol on my way to meet

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<v Speaker 12>the government.

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<v Speaker 19>And as you were walking you were exchanging cordialities.

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<v Speaker 2>With the people and shaking their hands. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 12>That is correct? As I went along the walkway, the

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<v Speaker 12>crowd had been assembled on my left as I walked

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<v Speaker 12>toward the Capitol, and they were held back by a rope.

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<v Speaker 12>And as I walked toward the Capital, I was shaking

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<v Speaker 12>hands and speaking to people in this group on the

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<v Speaker 12>left hand side.

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<v Speaker 6>As Ford moved along the route, he was accompanied by

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<v Speaker 6>Secret Service agents, city and state police officers, and a

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<v Speaker 6>group of journalists and camera operators, including Sacramento Television Channel

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<v Speaker 6>ten reporter Roger Lindberg.

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<v Speaker 5>Beginning our series of reports on today's events in Sacramento

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<v Speaker 5>with a near assassination of the president.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Roger Lindberg.

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<v Speaker 17>Roger, Well, it is the sort of thing that you

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<v Speaker 17>hear about, but you never really believe you will ever see.

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<v Speaker 14>Roger Lindberg, former KXTV reporter back in seventies. So my

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<v Speaker 14>assignment at the time was to be with the president

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<v Speaker 14>leaving the hotel, which was across the street from the Capitol,

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<v Speaker 14>and then go with him into the Capitol building. You

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<v Speaker 14>have to cross a major street, and then you walk

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<v Speaker 14>through this garden that is on the eastern side of

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<v Speaker 14>the Capitol building, and then you go up the step

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<v Speaker 14>into the Capitol. We come in the back door, not

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<v Speaker 14>the front of the Capitol. So that was my assignment

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<v Speaker 14>was to just be with him accompany him. I had

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<v Speaker 14>a camera crew with me at the time. It was

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<v Speaker 14>a big scrum. There were a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of cameras, a lot of reporters Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 17>President Ford was smiling and shaking hands as he moved

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<v Speaker 17>across from the Senator Hotel.

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<v Speaker 2>Towards the Capitol Building.

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<v Speaker 17>It was crossing the street, walking up a path that

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<v Speaker 17>led to the back entrance of the Capitol.

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<v Speaker 14>I remember it was an incredibly nice day. It was

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<v Speaker 14>bright and sunny, typical California day. We walked across the

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<v Speaker 14>street with him. We entered the park on the northern side,

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<v Speaker 14>and we were walking along a path at meanders between

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<v Speaker 14>big trees and rose garden, etc.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a moment of confusion at the entrance to

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<v Speaker 6>the park. The security plan called for the Sacramento City

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<v Speaker 6>Police to aid the Secret Service and escorting the President

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<v Speaker 6>from the Senator Hotel to the park entrance. At the

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<v Speaker 6>entrance the city police were to give way to State

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<v Speaker 6>police officers who would accompany the President and his secret

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<v Speaker 6>Service detail through the park and to the back door

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<v Speaker 6>of the Capitol, But when the group reached the park

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<v Speaker 6>entrance there were only three uniformed state police officers on

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<v Speaker 6>the scene. A decision was made for one of the

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<v Speaker 6>city police officers to accompany the President and his entourage

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<v Speaker 6>into the park. Waiting amid the crowd was Lynette From.

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<v Speaker 6>After the break, the security accompanying President Ford as he

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<v Speaker 6>walked from the Senator Hotel to the California State Capitol was,

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<v Speaker 6>by today's standards, almost comically. Video of his walk appears

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<v Speaker 6>to show less than a dozen agents around the president.

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<v Speaker 6>The scene does not seem very secure. Inside the park,

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<v Speaker 6>about a dozen State Police officers were stationed along the path.

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<v Speaker 6>In the minutes before Ford's appearance. Lynette From approached one

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<v Speaker 6>of the officers. She asked the officer if the president

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<v Speaker 6>was going to take that path on his way to

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<v Speaker 6>the State House. The officer was evasive in his answer,

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<v Speaker 6>but a crowd of several hundred people were lining the

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<v Speaker 6>path from the park entrance to the east steps of

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<v Speaker 6>the Capitol, and it seemed clear that this would be

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<v Speaker 6>his route from wore a flowing sleeveless red dress with

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<v Speaker 6>the hem down at her ankles. Beneath the robe, she

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<v Speaker 6>carried an M nineteen eleven Colt forty five pistol in

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<v Speaker 6>a holster on her left leg. The presidential entourage made

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<v Speaker 6>its way through the park, with Forde shaking hands and

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<v Speaker 6>speaking with people lining the path. A man in the

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<v Speaker 6>crowd described to a television reporter what he saw next.

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<v Speaker 13>I was about fifteen feet from where the president was

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<v Speaker 13>moving down the line of people shaking hands, and he

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<v Speaker 13>reached out to shake hands with a young woman. And

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<v Speaker 13>just about that time there was another person, a redheaded woman,

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<v Speaker 13>moved toward him.

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<v Speaker 17>When he reached the halfway mark in the path, the

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<v Speaker 17>crowd suddenly shifted violently, and President Ford flinched back, his

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<v Speaker 17>hands thrust in front of him. Ford saw what few

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<v Speaker 17>others could. A woman dressed in a long red skirt

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<v Speaker 17>pointed a forty five caliber pistol at the president.

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<v Speaker 6>Here is Gerald Ford again from his testimony, Where.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Lynette from when you first observed her?

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<v Speaker 12>If you recall approximately halfway between L Street and the

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<v Speaker 12>State Capitol, I noticed a person in the second or

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<v Speaker 12>third row in a brightly colored dress, who appeared to

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<v Speaker 12>one who either shake hands or speak, or at least

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<v Speaker 12>wanted to get closer to me.

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<v Speaker 19>Do you recall anything about the condition of her face

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<v Speaker 19>when you first observed her? Was it flushed, pale, weathered?

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<v Speaker 19>I know you've used the term weather before. Is at

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<v Speaker 19>your recollection?

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<v Speaker 12>It looked weathered, but there were many faces that the

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<v Speaker 12>brightness of the dress attracted my attention, and then the

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<v Speaker 12>process of noticing the dress. I thought her face did

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<v Speaker 12>appear to be.

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<v Speaker 6>Somewhat weather, though four doesn't mention it, and photographs taken

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<v Speaker 6>at the scene, Lynette is wearing a strange hat that

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<v Speaker 6>matches the red of her dress. The hat is made

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<v Speaker 6>of fabric and a shape like a cone, though most

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<v Speaker 6>of it is folded down like a limp, which's capped

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<v Speaker 6>to the right of her face. Her appearance was so

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<v Speaker 6>unusual that even as Ford moved through a crowd of people,

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<v Speaker 6>she stood out.

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<v Speaker 12>I would say that she was three to four feet

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<v Speaker 12>from me when I first noticed her. She appeared to

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<v Speaker 12>want to come forward. I had the impression she did

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<v Speaker 12>come forward. I didn't see the precise movement. I stopped

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<v Speaker 12>because I had the impression she wanted to speak to

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<v Speaker 12>me or shake my hand, And as I moved to

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<v Speaker 12>either shake hands or speak to her, I then noticed

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<v Speaker 12>the gun as I indicated it in her hand was

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<v Speaker 12>approximately two feet.

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<v Speaker 19>From where exactly, if you recall, was the barrel of

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<v Speaker 19>the weapon point.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not tell.

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<v Speaker 12>The weapon was large. It covered all or most of

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<v Speaker 12>her hand as far as I could see. And I

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<v Speaker 12>only saw it instantaneously because almost automatically, one of the

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<v Speaker 12>Secret Service agents lunged, grabbed the hand and the weapon,

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<v Speaker 12>and then I was pushed off by the other members

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<v Speaker 12>of the Secret Service detail.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know who it was that grabbed a hold

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<v Speaker 2>of her arm?

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<v Speaker 12>It was one of the Secret Service detail, mister Larry boondor.

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<v Speaker 20>My position at the time was right at his left shoulder.

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<v Speaker 20>So he's walking along shaking hands. I'm concentrating on his hands.

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<v Speaker 20>Don't want to have anybody grabbed too long, take his

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<v Speaker 20>watch whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>We tried to interview Larry Bundorff, who was long retired

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<v Speaker 6>from the Secret Service, but the Secret Service Press office

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<v Speaker 6>turned down our interview request. Boondorf was next to Ford,

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<v Speaker 6>keeping an eye on the hands reaching for the president.

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<v Speaker 6>He would not have been expecting when that thrusting forward

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<v Speaker 6>a gun, but he acted immediately.

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<v Speaker 20>As he's shaking hands. Suddenly I see this hand come

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<v Speaker 20>up with something in it, and it wasn't At that time,

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<v Speaker 20>didn't know it was a weapon, but I stepped in

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<v Speaker 20>front of the President to stop the hand from coming

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<v Speaker 20>up because I didn't want him to get.

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<v Speaker 11>Hit with whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 20>The minute I hited it, I knew it was a gun,

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<v Speaker 20>so I yelled out, gun. All my very best friends

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<v Speaker 20>that are with the President they leave. She's screaming in

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<v Speaker 20>the crowd, screaming, and I got hold of her hand

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<v Speaker 20>and I got the gun. I got the gun here

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<v Speaker 20>pushing right. Didn't have my vest on, So I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 20>that I don't know if there's more to this than

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<v Speaker 20>it's going to happen, but I know I'm not letting

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<v Speaker 20>go older.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, you heard Bundorf yelling a lady with a gun?

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five.

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<v Speaker 6>This is retired Secret Service agent Doug Duncan, who was

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<v Speaker 6>part of President Ford security details, speaking at a commemoration

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<v Speaker 6>of the assassination attempt the.

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<v Speaker 3>President Duck and I looked over his shoulder and I

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<v Speaker 3>could see that Larry had the gall in custody. He

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<v Speaker 3>had his hand over the gun pointed at the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>His left hand was around her, so he had her

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<v Speaker 3>under control.

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<v Speaker 6>All of this happened in front of the assembled crowd.

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<v Speaker 6>To some it appeared to be just a commotion. Others

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<v Speaker 6>who were closer saw more clearly what happened. Dan Walters,

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<v Speaker 6>we had a.

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<v Speaker 7>Reporter out there by the name of Vita fied Rigi

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<v Speaker 7>and I saw Vita and I said, what happened? She said,

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<v Speaker 7>what she tried to kill Ford or something like that,

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<v Speaker 7>and I said, you've got it right.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Vita being interviewed by local news immediately after the.

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<v Speaker 9>Attempt, And all of a sudden, I was standing maybe

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<v Speaker 9>three feet from Ford, behind two people. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 9>I saw the Secret serviceman right behind Ford just reach

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<v Speaker 9>out and push, and I saw a woman start to

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<v Speaker 9>go down and her arm go back, and I saw

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<v Speaker 9>the gun, and I didn't watch what Ford was doing.

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<v Speaker 9>And they wrestled through the ground and were slapping cuffs

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<v Speaker 9>on her and this big black gun. They got it

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<v Speaker 9>out of her hand, and she kept saying, easy fellas,

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<v Speaker 9>easy fellas.

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<v Speaker 6>It didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 16>It didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 11>The president right after it happened, turned around and kind

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<v Speaker 11>of looked back at the spot, and it was clear

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<v Speaker 11>to me at least that he was aware of what

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<v Speaker 11>had happened. He seemed to me was done be will

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<v Speaker 11>they something like that, and it was clear that he

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<v Speaker 11>knew what had happened.

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<v Speaker 6>Six Secret Service agents forced the president into a crouch

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<v Speaker 6>and hurried him the remaining hundred yards to the capital's

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<v Speaker 6>rear entrance and inside to safety. Meanwhile, Larry Bundorff and

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<v Speaker 6>others brought Lynnette to a tree to isolate her from

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<v Speaker 6>the crowd.

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<v Speaker 16>Roger Lindberg, the Secret Service hustled her to a large

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<v Speaker 16>tree that was in the garden, and I think because

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<v Speaker 16>of my age, wearing sunglasses and having a suit on,

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<v Speaker 16>which was unusual for reporters, I.

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<v Speaker 14>Ended up just standing right next to her and I

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<v Speaker 14>started interviewing her. I started talking to her. Her words

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<v Speaker 14>to me were, damn it. It didn't go off. The gun,

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<v Speaker 14>it didn't go off. I was scribbling notes as quickly

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<v Speaker 14>as I could, and then the Secret Service realized that

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<v Speaker 14>I wasn't Secret Service and got me away from the tree.

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<v Speaker 17>Woman I didn't find as Manson Paul Lynn Allen Squeaky

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<v Speaker 17>from of Sacramento was held by Secret Service and police

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<v Speaker 17>while the President continued on to the Capitol. Witness has

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<v Speaker 17>heard Miss Brown say at one point it didn't go off.

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<v Speaker 17>Can you believe it didn't go off?

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<v Speaker 6>An eyewitness told a local television reporter that Lynette kept

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<v Speaker 6>talking even after Roger Lindberg had been moved away. What

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<v Speaker 6>was she saying when they got her tied behind this tree?

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<v Speaker 18>She kept saying that he's not a public servant.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a public servant.

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<v Speaker 6>From was taken to Sacramento Police headquarters, where she was questioned.

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<v Speaker 6>At four o'clock, she appeared at the Sacramento Federal Court.

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<v Speaker 6>The one page complaint charging her with the assassination attempt

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<v Speaker 6>was read, and then US Magistrate Esther Mix asked From

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<v Speaker 6>if she had any statement before bail was set. From

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<v Speaker 6>replied no in a barely audible voice. She was then

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<v Speaker 6>sent to the Sacramento County Jail, where she was confined

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<v Speaker 6>alone to a cell. For his part, Ford continued with

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<v Speaker 6>his schedule, meeting with Governor Jerry By and then, an

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<v Speaker 6>hour after the attempt on his life, addressing the state legislature. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 6>the speech which was written before his visit centered on crime.

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<v Speaker 12>Serious crime rose eighteen percent for the nation as a whole.

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<v Speaker 4>After the speech to the Legislature, Ford left for McClellan

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<v Speaker 4>Air Force Base, where Air Force one waited on the

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<v Speaker 4>tarmac to take him back to Washington.

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<v Speaker 17>Ford boarded the plane directly from the limousine.

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<v Speaker 18>The President paused.

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<v Speaker 12>Only at the door of the craft to wave a

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<v Speaker 12>warm goodbye to the people.

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<v Speaker 5>Tonight, President Ford is enrud back to Washington, and apparently

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<v Speaker 5>he will continue his campaign schedule, including a return trip

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<v Speaker 5>to California in about two weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Though President Ford had left Sacramento unscathed, authorities and the

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<v Speaker 4>public were left with pressing questions. Who exactly was Lynette

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<v Speaker 4>from six years after the arrests of her guru Charles Manson,

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<v Speaker 4>What had compelled her to attempt an act of sensational violence,

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<v Speaker 4>and why had she targeted Gerald Ford next time on.

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<v Speaker 12>Rip current.

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<v Speaker 10>Was very good person.

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<v Speaker 18>Manson did things so much on instinct of how to survive.

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<v Speaker 15>I always felt like Glynnette was kind of this right

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<v Speaker 15>hand woman, and she was also.

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<v Speaker 6>Very very dedicated to him. We did not have sex

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<v Speaker 6>orgies and drug orgies or cult.

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<v Speaker 11>Eating five persons, including actress Sharon Tape were found dead

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<v Speaker 11>at the home of Mistape and her husband, screen director

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<v Speaker 11>Roman Polotsky.

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<v Speaker 15>When Manson was arrested, Lynette essentially emerged as the recognized

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<v Speaker 15>leader of the group.

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<v Speaker 17>Manson told his followers that this would be a bloodbath

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<v Speaker 17>in the streets of every American city.

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