1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Rip Current is a production of iHeart Podcasts. The views 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those if the host, producers, 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: or parent company listener discretion. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 2: Is it vie. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 3: Are California. 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 4: Just before ten am on September fifth, nineteen seventy five, 7 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 4: President Gerald Ford walked with a security detail on a 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: path through Capitol Park on the grounds of the California 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 4: Capitol Building in Sacramento. The path was lined with members 10 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: of the public. State policemen were president at intervals along 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: the route. A small woman wearing a bright red dress 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: maneuvered her way through the crowd and approached the President 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: as he passed. 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: She had a gun. 15 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: Her name was Lynnette from. 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: Good Evening in CALIFORNI you today. President Ford looked down 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 5: the barrel of a loaded automatic held by a red 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 5: haired woman in a long red dress. But the gun 19 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 5: didn't go off, and he's all right. The woman was 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 5: wrestled to the ground by a secret serviceman and the 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 5: President was hustled away. She is being charged with attempted 22 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: murder of the President. She is twenty six year old 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 5: Lynette Alice from nicknamed Squeaky. 24 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 6: Less than three weeks later, on September twenty second, a 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 6: woman named Sarah Jane Moore stood in a similar crowd 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 6: assembled across the street from the Saint Francis Hotel in 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 6: San Francisco. The President emerged from the side entrance and 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 6: walked towards his waiting limousine. Moore fired a single shot 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 6: before she was wrestled to the ground. 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 7: This is a CBS News special report. 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: Here CBS News correspondent Walder Cronkait. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 8: A woman fired a shot at President Ford in San 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 8: Francisco this afternoon, but a policeman deflected the pistol and 34 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 8: the President was not hit. The woman was in a 35 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 8: crowd across the street about thirty five or forty feet away. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 8: As the President was leaving the Saint Francis Hotel to 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 8: enter his limousine to return to Washington. Witnesses heard the 38 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 8: sound and saw a puff of smoke. The woman, identified 39 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 8: by police as Sarah Jane Moore in her forties, was 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 8: immediately seized. When the shot was fired, the President was 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 8: shoved into his car and wished to the airport, where 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 8: Air Force one was waiting to fly him to Washington. 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 8: He was not hurt, and at the airport appeared calm 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 8: and unperturbed. 45 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 4: In nearly two hundred and fifty years of United States history, 46 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: there are only two times that we know of that 47 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: a woman has tried to assassinate a US president. The 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: two attempts were separated by seventeen days and less than 49 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: ninety miles. 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 6: I'm Toby Ball and I'm Mary Catherine Garrison, and this 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 6: is rip current. 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 9: I saw a woman start to go down and her 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 9: arm go back, and I saw the gun, the big 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 9: black gun. 55 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 10: I got it out of her hand, and she. 56 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 9: Kept saying, easy fellas, Easy fellas. 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 6: It didn't go off. 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: It didn't go off. 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 6: Episode one, it didn't go off. 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: So the idea for this podcast came as I was 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 4: doing research on a related topic, radical groups in the 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: nineteen seventies. I was going down these different rabbit holes, 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: and at the end of one I came across Sarah 64 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: Jane Moore and from there Lynette From. 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 6: I came to this story by way of Broadway. I 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: played Lynette Squeaky From in the original Broadway cast of 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 6: Stephen Sondheim's musical Assassins Charlie Dahn. 68 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: As I dug into the research, I found that there 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 4: was a bigger story here than just a historical oddity. 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 4: This was the story of two women navigating the fringes 71 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: of radical society. How had they arrived at this place 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: in their lives? Why was California in nineteen seventy five 73 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: the setting for these attempts? Why target Gerald Ford? And 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: what can we learn from their stories? These assassination attempts 75 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: and the stories of the two women who tried to 76 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: kill President gerald Ford take place in the considerable shadow 77 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: of what we call the sixties. There's a public perception 78 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 4: about the sixties, Hippies, Woodstock, the civil rights movement, communes, Vietnam, 79 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: campus protests. It's an umbrella that includes people and movements 80 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 4: that embodied different ways of reimagining what America was, could 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: and should be. And these movements continued on into the 82 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 4: early seventies. But the popular perception of the sixties only 83 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: reflects a certain segment of the population at that time. Many, 84 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: even most Americans, found these new values and ideas threatening 85 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: or disturbing or simply un American. Much of the mainstream 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: press agreed with this assessment. 87 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 11: When you read Time each week, you know more you understand. 88 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: From before World War II until the rise of the Internet, 89 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 4: Time magazine was a powerful cultural force. Their annual Person 90 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: of the Year. 91 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: Issue was a big deal. 92 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 4: This was the person or people Time deemed quote to 93 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 4: have done the most to influence the events of the year. 94 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: On January twelfth, nineteen seventy, Time magazine named Middle Americans 95 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 4: as its Men and Women of the Year for nineteen 96 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 4: sixty nine. Who were the Middle Americans? 97 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: The American dream that they were living was no longer 98 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: the dream is advertised. They feared that they were beginning 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: to lose their grip on the country. Others seem to 100 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: be taking over. The liberals, the radicals, the defiant young, 101 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: a communications industry that they often believed was lying to them. This, 102 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: they will say, with an air of embarrassment that such 103 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: a truth need be stated at all. Is the greatest 104 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: country in the world. Why are people trying to tear 105 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: it down? 106 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: Time Magazine took a sympathetic, though also critical view of 107 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 4: Middle Americans, those who saw the changes in the social, cultural, 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: and political landscape. Basically, the things we associate with the 109 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 4: sixties as threatening to create a country alien to the 110 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: one that they knew. There's racism, which shows itself in 111 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 4: concerns about the civil rights movement, but in other ways 112 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 4: as well. 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: The article says, the rising level of crime frightens the 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: Middle American, and when he speaks of crime, though he 115 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: does not like to admit it, he means blacks. And 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: then the idea of sacrificing their own children's education to 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: a long range improvement for blacks appalls them. 118 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: Time's comfort with a certain level of racism is jarring, 119 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 4: such as here talking about Middle Americans who voted for 120 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: the overtly racist, segregationist presidential candidate George Wallace. 121 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: They are not extremists of the right, despite the fact 122 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: that some of them voted for George Wallace in nineteen 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: sixty eight. 124 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 12: I say segregation, MA, segregation, the MA, and segregation forever. 125 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: But the Middle Americans' concerns go beyond the impacts of 126 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: the civil rights movement. They're worried that the radical young, 127 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: as Time calls them, fundamentally challenge their belief in the 128 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: goodness of America. 129 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: Middle Americans education does not dwell upon the agonizing moral 130 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: discrepancies of American history, the stories of the Indians or 131 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the Blacks, or the national tradition of violence. He cannot 132 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: believe that the society he has come to accept as 133 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the best possible on earth. The order he sees as 134 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: natural contains wrong so deeply built in that he does 135 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: not notice them. Middle Americans believe that the radical young 136 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: are operating on a fast misunderstanding of their nation. 137 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: Time uses shorthand to get this point across. 138 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: While the rest of the nation's youth has been watching 139 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: Dustin Hoffman and Midnight Cowboy, Middle America's teenagers have been 140 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: taking in John Wayne for the second or third time 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: in The Green Berets. 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 4: Midnight Cowboy is the story of a male sex worker 143 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: and his pimp trying to eke out a living in 144 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: the sedious corners of New York City. 145 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 13: Oh Hey, I'm a hustler. 146 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: You didn't know that. 147 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 4: It received an X rating due to quote the homosexual 148 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: frame of reference and quote its possible influence on youngsters. 149 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: In contrast, The Green Berets was an anti communist, pro 150 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: Vietnam War movie. Critics observe that The Green Berets reduced 151 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: the ongoing war into a simple conflict of good versus evil. 152 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 14: Successful nation Mikey Yeah, but very gustly. 153 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: Roger Ebert gave it zero stars, but Middle America apparently 154 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: ate up the raw patriotism. We'll continue to use these 155 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: terms Middle America and the Radical Young as a shorthand 156 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: to broadly describe these two political and social groups in 157 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 4: the US in the late sixties and seventies. 158 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 6: Lynette From and Sarah Jane Moore's stories are very different 159 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: in many ways, but they share two fundamental similarities. Both 160 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 6: women had lived much of their lives in the culture 161 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: of Middle America, but their experiences there were difficult, and 162 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 6: then they suddenly, disorientingly became part of the most extreme 163 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 6: frontiers of the radical Young. For Sarah Jane Moore, this 164 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 6: meant immersing herself in the revolutionary philosophy the underground militants 165 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 6: in the Bay Area, including San Francisco. For Lynette From, 166 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 6: it meant joining a commune led by a guru whose 167 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 6: name would become synonymous with the darkest fears that Middle 168 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 6: America had about the Radical Young. Charles Manson on this 169 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: season of Rip Current, we'll look at Lynette From and 170 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 6: Sarah Janemore's lives in Middle America, their transformations as they 171 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 6: entered the world of the Radical Young, and the social 172 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 6: and political forces that led them to try to kill 173 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 6: the President of the United States in September nineteen seventy five. 174 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: If you think American society of the twenty first century 175 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: or the twenty twenties was dangerous and. 176 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 15: Violent, it's nothing. 177 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 16: Compared to what California was in the nineteen seventies. 178 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 6: Many, many people all of the world are due to 179 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 6: be assassinated. 180 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: This is just at the beginning. 181 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 15: What starts as a hippie love called transmigraphied into a 182 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 15: violent criminal enterprise. 183 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: Of course, would have been imber. 184 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 17: The people will be shot on prevent any. 185 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 12: Primate, any plague. 186 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 11: The worst thing in that underworld is to be an informant, 187 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 11: a snitch. 188 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 17: These people aren't just a bunch of mouths. 189 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 11: They're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing. 190 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 6: I'm not saying i'd try to take a shot. 191 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 10: I didn't take a shot without a show in the chamber. 192 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: I had two feet from him. 193 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 17: I could have shot twice. I was the person in 194 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 17: the intent was exactly as I stated in court, to 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 17: wilfully and know. 196 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Any assassinate Gerald off Or the Pressman of the United. 197 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 6: States, Gerald Ford, the thirty eighth President of the United States, 198 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 6: arrived in Sacramento for the last stop of a two 199 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 6: day fundraising trip to the West coast. He had already 200 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 6: raised money in Seattle and Portland. 201 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 10: It was September the fifth, nineteen seventy five, and it 202 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 10: was to be a red letter day in the city 203 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 10: of Sacramento. The President of the United States, Gerald R. Ford, 204 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 10: was to pay us a visit. 205 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 6: This is senior US District Court Judge William Shubb speaking 206 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: at a twenty thirteen panel discussion of Lynnette From's trial. 207 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 10: The town was all a bustle. 208 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 7: In the morning. 209 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 10: The President was scheduled to speak to a large group 210 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 10: of California business leaders at the annual host breakfast to 211 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 10: be held in the newly constructed Sacramento Community Center. 212 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 7: Traditionally, the governor had always come and spoken to the breakfast. 213 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 7: Jerry Brown was in his first year as governor in 214 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy five. 215 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 12: The people in chacrament all the people in California and 216 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 12: out in the West, can make the difference. 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 7: You don't even governor about eight or nine months at 218 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 7: this time, as a matter. 219 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 17: Of fact, are you get out and vote on Tuesday. 220 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 7: And invited him to come and speak, and he didn't respond. 221 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 7: He kind of put him off, and it angered the sponsors. 222 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 7: My name is Dan Walders. I'm a political columnist for 223 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 7: a non fuck with journalism group called Calmatters dot Org. 224 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 7: I'd been a journalist for over sixty years, and in 225 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy five I had just begun covering the capitol 226 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 7: for the Sacramento Union. They were mostly Republicans. They kind 227 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 7: of angered him that this kind young snotnoas kid governor 228 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 7: wasn't coming in positive them. So that the head of 229 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 7: the committee at that time was a man by the 230 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 7: name of Carlisle Reed, who happened to be the publisher 231 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 7: of the Sacramento Union, and he was well connected in 232 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 7: Republican circles. So he decided, basically, I'll teach that young 233 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 7: son of a bitch a lesson. I'll get the president 234 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 7: to come to Sacramento instead and show him up, and 235 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 7: they did. He pulled strings and got a commitment from 236 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 7: Jerry Ford he would come and speak to the host breakfast. 237 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: Ford received a warm welcome from the group of businessmen 238 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 6: and gave a speech guaranteed to appeal to their political sensibilities. 239 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 12: In recent years, a disproportionate percentage of new jobs has 240 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 12: come from the public sector rather than the private the 241 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 12: result has been the creation of a bureaucracy that contributes 242 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 12: very little to America's prosperity and productivity. It simply shares it. 243 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 6: His message of reducing regulatory burden was well received by 244 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 6: the largely Republican audience. Here is an unidentified attendee reacting 245 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: to Ford's speech. 246 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 18: Well, I think the President gave a very determined statement 247 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 18: on which he stated that we're raither going to become 248 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 18: free Americans again and cause our economy to grow, or 249 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 18: we're going to go further and further in the direction 250 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 18: of a planned, a socialistic type economy. 251 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 6: Following the speech, Ford returned from the convention Center to 252 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: the Senator Hotel for a brief rest before heading to 253 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: the state Capitol to meet with Governor Brown and address 254 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 6: the state legislature. Here's Ford testifying about that day months later. 255 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: And what time did you leave the hotel? 256 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 12: Approxtantly ten am that morning? 257 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 19: As I understand, you crossed the street and you were 258 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 19: proceeding along the walkway. 259 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: Towards the state capital. Is that correct? 260 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 12: That is correct. I left the hotel, walked across L 261 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 12: Street and up a walkway from L Street to the 262 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 12: entrance to the State Capitol on my way to meet 263 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 12: the government. 264 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 19: And as you were walking you were exchanging cordialities. 265 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: With the people and shaking their hands. Is that correct? 266 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 12: That is correct? As I went along the walkway, the 267 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 12: crowd had been assembled on my left as I walked 268 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 12: toward the Capitol, and they were held back by a rope. 269 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 12: And as I walked toward the Capital, I was shaking 270 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 12: hands and speaking to people in this group on the 271 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 12: left hand side. 272 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 6: As Ford moved along the route, he was accompanied by 273 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 6: Secret Service agents, city and state police officers, and a 274 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 6: group of journalists and camera operators, including Sacramento Television Channel 275 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 6: ten reporter Roger Lindberg. 276 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 5: Beginning our series of reports on today's events in Sacramento 277 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: with a near assassination of the president. 278 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Here is Roger Lindberg. 279 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 17: Roger, Well, it is the sort of thing that you 280 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 17: hear about, but you never really believe you will ever see. 281 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 14: Roger Lindberg, former KXTV reporter back in seventies. So my 282 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 14: assignment at the time was to be with the president 283 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 14: leaving the hotel, which was across the street from the Capitol, 284 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 14: and then go with him into the Capitol building. You 285 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 14: have to cross a major street, and then you walk 286 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 14: through this garden that is on the eastern side of 287 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 14: the Capitol building, and then you go up the step 288 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 14: into the Capitol. We come in the back door, not 289 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 14: the front of the Capitol. So that was my assignment 290 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 14: was to just be with him accompany him. I had 291 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 14: a camera crew with me at the time. It was 292 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 14: a big scrum. There were a lot of a lot 293 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 14: of cameras, a lot of reporters Secret Service. 294 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 17: President Ford was smiling and shaking hands as he moved 295 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 17: across from the Senator Hotel. 296 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: Towards the Capitol Building. 297 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 17: It was crossing the street, walking up a path that 298 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 17: led to the back entrance of the Capitol. 299 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 14: I remember it was an incredibly nice day. It was 300 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 14: bright and sunny, typical California day. We walked across the 301 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 14: street with him. We entered the park on the northern side, 302 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 14: and we were walking along a path at meanders between 303 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 14: big trees and rose garden, etc. 304 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 6: There was a moment of confusion at the entrance to 305 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 6: the park. The security plan called for the Sacramento City 306 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 6: Police to aid the Secret Service and escorting the President 307 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 6: from the Senator Hotel to the park entrance. At the 308 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: entrance the city police were to give way to State 309 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 6: police officers who would accompany the President and his secret 310 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 6: Service detail through the park and to the back door 311 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 6: of the Capitol, But when the group reached the park 312 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 6: entrance there were only three uniformed state police officers on 313 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 6: the scene. A decision was made for one of the 314 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 6: city police officers to accompany the President and his entourage 315 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 6: into the park. Waiting amid the crowd was Lynette From. 316 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 6: After the break, the security accompanying President Ford as he 317 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 6: walked from the Senator Hotel to the California State Capitol was, 318 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 6: by today's standards, almost comically. Video of his walk appears 319 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 6: to show less than a dozen agents around the president. 320 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 6: The scene does not seem very secure. Inside the park, 321 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: about a dozen State Police officers were stationed along the path. 322 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 6: In the minutes before Ford's appearance. Lynette From approached one 323 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 6: of the officers. She asked the officer if the president 324 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 6: was going to take that path on his way to 325 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 6: the State House. The officer was evasive in his answer, 326 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 6: but a crowd of several hundred people were lining the 327 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 6: path from the park entrance to the east steps of 328 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 6: the Capitol, and it seemed clear that this would be 329 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: his route from wore a flowing sleeveless red dress with 330 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 6: the hem down at her ankles. Beneath the robe, she 331 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 6: carried an M nineteen eleven Colt forty five pistol in 332 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 6: a holster on her left leg. The presidential entourage made 333 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 6: its way through the park, with Forde shaking hands and 334 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 6: speaking with people lining the path. A man in the 335 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 6: crowd described to a television reporter what he saw next. 336 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 13: I was about fifteen feet from where the president was 337 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 13: moving down the line of people shaking hands, and he 338 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 13: reached out to shake hands with a young woman. And 339 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 13: just about that time there was another person, a redheaded woman, 340 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 13: moved toward him. 341 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 17: When he reached the halfway mark in the path, the 342 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 17: crowd suddenly shifted violently, and President Ford flinched back, his 343 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 17: hands thrust in front of him. Ford saw what few 344 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 17: others could. A woman dressed in a long red skirt 345 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 17: pointed a forty five caliber pistol at the president. 346 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 6: Here is Gerald Ford again from his testimony, Where. 347 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: Was Lynette from when you first observed her? 348 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 12: If you recall approximately halfway between L Street and the 349 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 12: State Capitol, I noticed a person in the second or 350 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 12: third row in a brightly colored dress, who appeared to 351 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 12: one who either shake hands or speak, or at least 352 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 12: wanted to get closer to me. 353 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 19: Do you recall anything about the condition of her face 354 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 19: when you first observed her? Was it flushed, pale, weathered? 355 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 19: I know you've used the term weather before. Is at 356 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 19: your recollection? 357 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 12: It looked weathered, but there were many faces that the 358 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 12: brightness of the dress attracted my attention, and then the 359 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 12: process of noticing the dress. I thought her face did 360 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 12: appear to be. 361 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: Somewhat weather, though four doesn't mention it, and photographs taken 362 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 6: at the scene, Lynette is wearing a strange hat that 363 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 6: matches the red of her dress. The hat is made 364 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 6: of fabric and a shape like a cone, though most 365 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 6: of it is folded down like a limp, which's capped 366 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 6: to the right of her face. Her appearance was so 367 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 6: unusual that even as Ford moved through a crowd of people, 368 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 6: she stood out. 369 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 12: I would say that she was three to four feet 370 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 12: from me when I first noticed her. She appeared to 371 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 12: want to come forward. I had the impression she did 372 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 12: come forward. I didn't see the precise movement. I stopped 373 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 12: because I had the impression she wanted to speak to 374 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 12: me or shake my hand, And as I moved to 375 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 12: either shake hands or speak to her, I then noticed 376 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 12: the gun as I indicated it in her hand was 377 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 12: approximately two feet. 378 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 19: From where exactly, if you recall, was the barrel of 379 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 19: the weapon point. 380 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: I could not tell. 381 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 12: The weapon was large. It covered all or most of 382 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 12: her hand as far as I could see. And I 383 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 12: only saw it instantaneously because almost automatically, one of the 384 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 12: Secret Service agents lunged, grabbed the hand and the weapon, 385 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 12: and then I was pushed off by the other members 386 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 12: of the Secret Service detail. 387 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: Do you know who it was that grabbed a hold 388 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: of her arm? 389 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 12: It was one of the Secret Service detail, mister Larry boondor. 390 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 20: My position at the time was right at his left shoulder. 391 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 20: So he's walking along shaking hands. I'm concentrating on his hands. 392 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 20: Don't want to have anybody grabbed too long, take his 393 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 20: watch whatever. 394 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 6: We tried to interview Larry Bundorff, who was long retired 395 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 6: from the Secret Service, but the Secret Service Press office 396 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 6: turned down our interview request. Boondorf was next to Ford, 397 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 6: keeping an eye on the hands reaching for the president. 398 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: He would not have been expecting when that thrusting forward 399 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 6: a gun, but he acted immediately. 400 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 20: As he's shaking hands. Suddenly I see this hand come 401 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 20: up with something in it, and it wasn't At that time, 402 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 20: didn't know it was a weapon, but I stepped in 403 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 20: front of the President to stop the hand from coming 404 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 20: up because I didn't want him to get. 405 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 11: Hit with whatever it was. 406 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 20: The minute I hited it, I knew it was a gun, 407 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 20: so I yelled out, gun. All my very best friends 408 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 20: that are with the President they leave. She's screaming in 409 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 20: the crowd, screaming, and I got hold of her hand 410 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 20: and I got the gun. I got the gun here 411 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 20: pushing right. Didn't have my vest on, So I'm thinking 412 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 20: that I don't know if there's more to this than 413 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 20: it's going to happen, but I know I'm not letting 414 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 20: go older. 415 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 3: Hey, you heard Bundorf yelling a lady with a gun? 416 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: Forty five. 417 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: This is retired Secret Service agent Doug Duncan, who was 418 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 6: part of President Ford security details, speaking at a commemoration 419 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: of the assassination attempt the. 420 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: President Duck and I looked over his shoulder and I 421 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: could see that Larry had the gall in custody. He 422 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: had his hand over the gun pointed at the ground. 423 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: His left hand was around her, so he had her 424 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 3: under control. 425 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 6: All of this happened in front of the assembled crowd. 426 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 6: To some it appeared to be just a commotion. Others 427 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 6: who were closer saw more clearly what happened. Dan Walters, 428 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 6: we had a. 429 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 7: Reporter out there by the name of Vita fied Rigi 430 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 7: and I saw Vita and I said, what happened? She said, 431 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 7: what she tried to kill Ford or something like that, 432 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 7: and I said, you've got it right. 433 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 6: This is Vita being interviewed by local news immediately after the. 434 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 9: Attempt, And all of a sudden, I was standing maybe 435 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 9: three feet from Ford, behind two people. All of a sudden, 436 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 9: I saw the Secret serviceman right behind Ford just reach 437 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 9: out and push, and I saw a woman start to 438 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 9: go down and her arm go back, and I saw 439 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 9: the gun, and I didn't watch what Ford was doing. 440 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 9: And they wrestled through the ground and were slapping cuffs 441 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 9: on her and this big black gun. They got it 442 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 9: out of her hand, and she kept saying, easy fellas, 443 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 9: easy fellas. 444 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: It didn't go off. 445 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 16: It didn't go off. 446 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 11: The president right after it happened, turned around and kind 447 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 11: of looked back at the spot, and it was clear 448 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 11: to me at least that he was aware of what 449 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 11: had happened. He seemed to me was done be will 450 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 11: they something like that, and it was clear that he 451 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 11: knew what had happened. 452 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 6: Six Secret Service agents forced the president into a crouch 453 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 6: and hurried him the remaining hundred yards to the capital's 454 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: rear entrance and inside to safety. Meanwhile, Larry Bundorff and 455 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 6: others brought Lynnette to a tree to isolate her from 456 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 6: the crowd. 457 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 16: Roger Lindberg, the Secret Service hustled her to a large 458 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 16: tree that was in the garden, and I think because 459 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 16: of my age, wearing sunglasses and having a suit on, 460 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 16: which was unusual for reporters, I. 461 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 14: Ended up just standing right next to her and I 462 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 14: started interviewing her. I started talking to her. Her words 463 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 14: to me were, damn it. It didn't go off. The gun, 464 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 14: it didn't go off. I was scribbling notes as quickly 465 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 14: as I could, and then the Secret Service realized that 466 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 14: I wasn't Secret Service and got me away from the tree. 467 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 17: Woman I didn't find as Manson Paul Lynn Allen Squeaky 468 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 17: from of Sacramento was held by Secret Service and police 469 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 17: while the President continued on to the Capitol. Witness has 470 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 17: heard Miss Brown say at one point it didn't go off. 471 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 17: Can you believe it didn't go off? 472 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: An eyewitness told a local television reporter that Lynette kept 473 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 6: talking even after Roger Lindberg had been moved away. What 474 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 6: was she saying when they got her tied behind this tree? 475 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 18: She kept saying that he's not a public servant. 476 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: He's not a public servant. 477 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 6: From was taken to Sacramento Police headquarters, where she was questioned. 478 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 6: At four o'clock, she appeared at the Sacramento Federal Court. 479 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 6: The one page complaint charging her with the assassination attempt 480 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: was read, and then US Magistrate Esther Mix asked From 481 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 6: if she had any statement before bail was set. From 482 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 6: replied no in a barely audible voice. She was then 483 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 6: sent to the Sacramento County Jail, where she was confined 484 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 6: alone to a cell. For his part, Ford continued with 485 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 6: his schedule, meeting with Governor Jerry By and then, an 486 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 6: hour after the attempt on his life, addressing the state legislature. Ironically, 487 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 6: the speech which was written before his visit centered on crime. 488 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 12: Serious crime rose eighteen percent for the nation as a whole. 489 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 4: After the speech to the Legislature, Ford left for McClellan 490 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: Air Force Base, where Air Force one waited on the 491 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 4: tarmac to take him back to Washington. 492 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 17: Ford boarded the plane directly from the limousine. 493 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 18: The President paused. 494 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 12: Only at the door of the craft to wave a 495 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 12: warm goodbye to the people. 496 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: Tonight, President Ford is enrud back to Washington, and apparently 497 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: he will continue his campaign schedule, including a return trip 498 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 5: to California in about two weeks. 499 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: Though President Ford had left Sacramento unscathed, authorities and the 500 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 4: public were left with pressing questions. Who exactly was Lynette 501 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 4: from six years after the arrests of her guru Charles Manson, 502 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 4: What had compelled her to attempt an act of sensational violence, 503 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: and why had she targeted Gerald Ford next time on. 504 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 12: Rip current. 505 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 10: Was very good person. 506 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 18: Manson did things so much on instinct of how to survive. 507 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 15: I always felt like Glynnette was kind of this right 508 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 15: hand woman, and she was also. 509 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: Very very dedicated to him. We did not have sex 510 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 6: orgies and drug orgies or cult. 511 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 11: Eating five persons, including actress Sharon Tape were found dead 512 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 11: at the home of Mistape and her husband, screen director 513 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 11: Roman Polotsky. 514 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 15: When Manson was arrested, Lynette essentially emerged as the recognized 515 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 15: leader of the group. 516 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 17: Manson told his followers that this would be a bloodbath 517 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 17: in the streets of every American city. 518 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: Was created and written by Toby Ball and developed with 519 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: Alexander Williams. 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