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Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys Football Club, blowing out.

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Speaker 2: Of the backfield, next flowing down the sideline.

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Speaker 3: He is hanging with the boys. Now your hosts.

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Speaker 4: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 5: Shannon, you are looking live at four of the most

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Speaker 5: handsome gentlemen you will see on your screens today. It

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Speaker 5: is fifty nine degrees outside. Can you believe this? Sixty

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Speaker 5: two degrees is the high. Thirty nine is the low.

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Speaker 3: He is Shannon, that is Nate, This is Kurt. One

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Speaker 3: pump Damiels, because two pumps will get you a flag

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Speaker 3: in the back. Not Chris Bean and we know why

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Speaker 3: because you haven't changed his sign up here Josh, and

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Speaker 3: we don't do a show with that name on the side.

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Speaker 5: Come on, just start hitting buttons.

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Speaker 3: Come on, man, I am the the scruntle, salt and

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Speaker 3: pepper coffee together.

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Speaker 5: If you know, you don't know, you know.

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Speaker 3: If you don't know, that's too damn bad.

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Speaker 6: Together. You ain't do nothing. No, you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Together. We may hanging with the boys, the sports talking couple,

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Speaker 3: the brow people.

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Speaker 6: When we speak and then.

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Speaker 5: Wakes up is here? How are we doing today?

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Speaker 6: Gook?

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Speaker 5: Well? I guess since we can't even get the background

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Speaker 5: swapped out, man, phone calls are out the window.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh man, that's funny. Man, there we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, John, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Look at it.

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Speaker 5: You can leave the other ones up.

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Speaker 6: That's fine. Yeah, it was just that. Oh boy, home.

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Speaker 6: Where's Chris today? Josh?

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Speaker 3: He took off a special assignment you know, Chris, do

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Speaker 3: those special assignments something?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's something brew You didn't get a heads up

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Speaker 5: text or nothing. Okay, all right, well guess what what?

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Speaker 5: Still the Dallas Cowboys still got a chance, still got

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Speaker 5: some hope, still got a chance. It's the circus of

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Speaker 5: that star. Like, what's what's the percentage at now?

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Speaker 6: After their lost like ten?

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Speaker 5: I think it was seven going into last night. Now

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Speaker 5: it's up to ten. But you're saying there's a chance.

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Speaker 5: It's a small one, but there still is because the

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Speaker 5: Eagles do not look like they're functioning at.

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Speaker 6: A at a high level right now. They don't. But

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Speaker 6: there their schedule favor.

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Speaker 5: They where they have last Vegas Vegas commanders and twice bills.

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Speaker 7: Commanders lose that the commanders lose to the bills.

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Speaker 3: Still need one more, we need one more?

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Speaker 5: What do they say, what do they say? That's why

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Speaker 5: you play the game, right, any given Sunday? We need

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Speaker 5: Thursday or Saturday, because right now there what eight eight, four,

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Speaker 5: eight six or eight and five, eight and five?

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Speaker 6: We need we need three? We needn't. Well, if we

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Speaker 6: went out, gotter be four.

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Speaker 5: They got to lose at least two, and then if

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Speaker 5: we tie, we've got the half game, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not above them.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how that will play out.

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Speaker 3: It'll go to common opponents. I believe to lose, have

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Speaker 3: to lose three, lose three out.

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Speaker 6: And we got to win out.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, guess what that does? Makes you

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Speaker 5: tune in every week until we lose that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, we love that too.

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Speaker 5: We're still in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we really love We do love.

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Speaker 5: It because we would have absolutely nothing to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Because no playoffs. You know, pull the pluck quick.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Derry pull. Season's over on Sunday. We have

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Speaker 5: a show on Monday. We're out on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: Once a week.

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Speaker 5: We don't even get to say by to each other.

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Speaker 6: Derry pull, yeah, go out of town. What do you

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Speaker 6: want to talk about? Kurt? You got a whole bunch

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Speaker 6: of bullet points.

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Speaker 5: Don't you run the show?

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Speaker 6: Today, I don't you don't want to run the show.

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Speaker 3: Nobody want to work today, Chris don't want to work now,

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Speaker 3: you don't want to work, Shanning, what's going on?

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Speaker 6: I don't want to work?

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Speaker 3: I had right before the show.

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Speaker 5: We wanted to wait on you.

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Speaker 2: It's special teams and we turn problem or coverage blocking problem?

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Speaker 2: Does he needs to take a few reps on our fits?

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Speaker 2: That is by way of Kirk Daniels one pump.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm glad you said it because I

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Speaker 3: got I was Yeah, I was told Machavante on Twitter

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Speaker 5: Oh he talked to you. Yeah, yeah, he reached out. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: what did he tell you?

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Speaker 3: I reached out? But uh, you know what, never mind,

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Speaker 3: I'll just say this, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: Was it in the public domain or did he d

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Speaker 5: m you?

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Speaker 6: What did me?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so what do he saying? No, it's in the

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Speaker 5: public domain.

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Speaker 3: You can say it, but okay, look at look at me.

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Speaker 5: Let me, Kirk go look it up.

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Speaker 2: And you okay, Well, since we can't get that one,

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Speaker 2: Pickens went at Sherman in a post and has since

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Speaker 2: deleted it. Is it okay for players to respond when

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Speaker 2: they're getting criticized.

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Speaker 6: I got to just take it. You know what.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great conversation because I think we

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Speaker 3: have maybe two different perspectives because Nate, you came up

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Speaker 3: at a time where there was absolutely.

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Speaker 6: No social media and no response.

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Speaker 3: We could not respond like you, you had to kind

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Speaker 3: room if he or she.

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Speaker 5: Why couldn't you respond public? Was that a Jimmy thing?

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Speaker 6: Or it was it was a phone this thing.

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Speaker 5: Because if you said something ugly to the reporter, he's

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Speaker 5: just not going to republish it, right, Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: And I like I came into the league that wasn't

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Speaker 3: rise of social media came. And what year was that, brother,

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Speaker 3: Jess what social media? I mean Twitter opened up in

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Speaker 3: two thousand and nine?

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Speaker 5: Did you ever think because I transitioned over from merchandising

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Speaker 5: the league, they were using it, they were talking. Did

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Speaker 5: you were at the front end of all that, Do

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Speaker 3: Now Here's the thing that I've always said to people,

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Speaker 3: And you will never really truly understand this. And this

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Speaker 3: a lot of these dudes are sensitive. Ah, a lot

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Speaker 6: And you would be shocked.

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Speaker 3: You would be shocked at the people that you see

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Speaker 5: But they can still rip your head off. But they

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Speaker 3: And even that's even that's different. Even that's different because

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Speaker 6: Soft.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, there's a lot of dudes who have

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Speaker 5: Percentage would you say in the locker room is like that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 5: Because because you need all five percent, all right? Because you,

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Speaker 5: me and Nick have always had this this ongoing conversation

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Speaker 5: and I think we've talked about on the show. You

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Speaker 5: got your alphas right. You can't have a locker room

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Speaker 6: It just doesn't work.

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Speaker 5: So you have your alpha set and then you have

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Speaker 3: You get out foot are different from Nate's era of alphas.

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Speaker 3: I think Nate's era of alphas would bite the head

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Speaker 3: off the shoulders of this era alphas, not all of them,

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Speaker 3: not all of them, but the alpha man is different now,

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Speaker 3: And they're not the same. They're not the same. They

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Speaker 3: And this is not everybody. I'm saying, the large majority.

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Speaker 3: It's different. And that's why you see guys as a

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Speaker 3: And this is because this has given a lot of

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Speaker 3: a lot of them won't say it either. A lot

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Speaker 3: of them wouldn't say to you. But this is giving

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think George might be one of them. The mighty

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Speaker 3: say it. I think George might be one of them

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Speaker 3: to crash out in real life. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: There's a couple of dude now that I feel like

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Speaker 3: they'll talk, or they'll talk a good game on this.

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Speaker 3: They will talk. You will think this is the you

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Speaker 3: think it's John Jones behind this. But they had to

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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, Nate, if you got anything you

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Speaker 3: want to ask.

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Speaker 6: Now, you you covered up.

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Speaker 2: I don't, you know, I don't expect it. That's why

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Speaker 2: I do not approach a lot of players, because my conversation, uh,

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Speaker 2: it's too simple, you know. Like I was trying to

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Speaker 2: tell these shot gentlemen about past sets yesterday and just

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Speaker 2: and it's like nothing never happened. You know, you just

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Speaker 2: on to the next series. I just be like, wow,

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Speaker 2: least frown up a little bit, like it hurts you,

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Speaker 2: like it hurts you. I mean, I'm getting them some sacksoy.

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Speaker 5: Or has this changed the mentality of the pro athlete.

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Speaker 6: But when when you.

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Speaker 6: And it took me a few years, but I got there.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm hoping that this new leadership will

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's something that surprised me. They don't

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because it's one of you. Yeah, and hundreds of thousands, yeh.

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Speaker 3: There's Chris Bean he a lot of game, you know

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Speaker 2: But Jess's so it's so right. I mean, I'm sitting

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Speaker 6: Say nah, Jesse, nah.

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Speaker 2: But it's just too bad when you can't say this guy,

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Speaker 2: I don't care what like Jimmy's telling I don't care

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Speaker 6: You to be the best. I don't care what it is.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it for your mama, You're doing it for

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Speaker 2: But whatever that drive is, turn it on right now.

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Speaker 6: Because that's what we need to win.

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Speaker 2: Whatever that drive is, I don't care what it is,

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Keep doing it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Welcome to the show, Chris. Derek took our department

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Speaker 5: to lunch. No, Josh has already been the one with Derek.

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Speaker 9: Did not sponsor, but I think Josh got to go

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Speaker 6: Yea to you. Uh, what's up?

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Speaker 5: You got Jesse all thrown off at the beginning of

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Speaker 5: the show. Show Josh how to change the backdrops out

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Speaker 5: next time? Oh yeah, oh the ones behind you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we're good. He'll be good. Now.

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Speaker 3: Look he left that other show up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had to hit some buttons and did oh

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Speaker 5: Whenever you were talking, Josh was messed with the cameras,

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Speaker 5: all the cameras, all the cameras. Welcome, Welcome to the show, Chris. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: All right, we were talking about players and social media

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Speaker 6: You have to commit to every part of it.

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Speaker 3: every team that could have been that. Yeah, there's got

440
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: to be at least too. And I'm I'm I'm maybe

441
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 3: even shorten it, like I maybe even not even giving

442
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Speaker 3: it enough justice.

443
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Speaker 5: Because that's part of it, right, That's part of becoming

444
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 5: a pro athlete at a high level is managing that.

445
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: That might be the biggest part of it, to be

446
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: one hundred percent honest, like, because the talent will take

447
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 3: care of itself. You got here because that talent is there.

448
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 3: And what keeps the talent there and grows the talent

449
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: is your you becoming disciplined enough to handle all the

450
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: other ancillary stuff, all that other stuff that happens to

451
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 3: keep to feed that beast. A lot of guys will

452
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: just rely on that talent because it's gotten them this far,

453
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: and so they've never had to really tap into that

454
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: other part. And you know, this is where locker room

455
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: veteran leadership is key, not only for your team, but

456
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: just for the the brotherhood, the passing along the baton

457
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 3: to the next person, of helping you understand what all

458
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: that stuff is because you because the worst thing that

459
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 3: can happen is you take a kid that's im mentally

460
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: talented and then you put him in the room with

461
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: a bunch of slappies and you're like, man, like, this

462
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: kid is never going to learn the parts that we

463
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: really need them to learn and take that to the

464
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: next level because what we have around him isn't doesn't

465
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: afford him that ability to do so, you know. And

466
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: you can take the opposite way where you start seeing

467
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 3: like a lineage of a position group that just grows

468
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: and grows and grows over time. It's because those that

469
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 3: came before him, they they set the standard and about

470
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: how they went about their business, about how to do it,

471
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 3: what it looks like. And it's a day in, day out.

472
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Speaker 5: This is what we do as a group on this

473
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 5: time we're on.

474
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 3: But not even that part of it. But just like yo, hey,

475
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: you might need you know, you need to get this part.

476
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 3: You need to get the workout part of this, You

477
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: need to get all those other things to get those

478
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 3: things in line. It just helps out, you know. And

479
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: and football might be out of all the major sports,

480
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 3: football might be the one with the least amount of

481
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 3: those vets that are still left around. Like basketball, they'll

482
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: keep the man, the fourteen to fifteen dude on the

483
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 3: basketball team an NBA team, he might just be that

484
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: wially o vet. That's someone who can I saw the

485
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: other day, and this is to my point. I saw

486
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: the other day the MAVs were playing the Heat and

487
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: a Heat bench player was up in like blatantly disrespecting

488
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson. Now I feel with Klay Thompson as ever

489
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: he down in his career. But Klay Thompson is one

490
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 3: of the greatest shooters this league has ever seen. Paired

491
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 3: up with Steph Curry, they were the greatest shooting duo

492
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 3: in NBA history. Three four time champion, will be a

493
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer. And here's this guy who's barely

494
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: making the roster on the Miami Heat team like calling

495
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: them a bum be, like a bum female dog. After

496
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 3: the game was over. Koran Butler, who was a longtime

497
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: player in this league, who's now an assistant on the

498
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: Miami Heats. But he's like that vet dude. They call

499
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: him tough juice like Butler grabbed a young player and

500
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: walks him to go apologize to Klay Thompson. He grabbed,

501
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: He grabbed the young player, walked him, grabbed, and Clay

502
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 3: didn't want to do it at first, and he saw

503
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 3: who it was. He saw it was it was Koran,

504
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: and he was a He gave Koran that respect and

505
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: he stopped and he listened and Karan made the young

506
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: player apologize to him because he's like, oh, you don't

507
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: disrespect this guy. This guy has been a statement in

508
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: this league for ten plus years. He's won championships and

509
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 3: guess what, one day you might want to call him

510
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: and say, can you show me how you work? Can

511
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 3: you show me how to shoot better? What are some

512
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 3: of the things that he was like, Yo, you don't

513
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: burn that bridge because you want to be one of

514
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: these young street punks to just say. But it's players

515
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: like that and people like that in organizations that allow

516
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 3: you to grow in certain areas. And I think the

517
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 3: NFL is one of those leagues now where you don't

518
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: see a lot of that. Nowadays, you don't see a

519
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: lot of the dudes in the locker room who will

520
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 3: grab Because I've said this time before and this is

521
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: one of my like when I was criticizing Micah and

522
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 3: this is all before he got traded, and this is nothing.

523
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 3: This is you gotta remember, like a year or two ago,

524
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: they were coming, y'all, were all of you who was like, yeah,

525
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm glad Michael's gone. All of you were coming from

526
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: my dome about a year or two ago when I

527
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: criticized Micah as being a leader of this defense, and

528
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: I was like, man, this is the guy that has

529
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 3: to be able when things were going wrong. This was

530
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 3: the guy that has to go. Hey, defense, we're not

531
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: going anywhere when practice is over, when meetings are over,

532
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna come meet as a as a unit together.

533
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 3: See it's different when I say it, they're like, man,

534
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 3: get out of here. But when your leader says it,

535
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: now everyone falls in line and the league has less

536
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: of those.

537
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 7: Did you have him when you were here when you

538
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 7: were playing?

539
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah?

540
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I told you guys all the time, my

541
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: VET was Patrick Crayton. And I've told the story before

542
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: when I was trying to learn this office and I

543
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: was trying to figure this stuff out and I had

544
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: the little cheat sheet tucked away in my in my

545
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: in my practice pants and he caught me and he

546
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: snatched it out and he ripped it up and he

547
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: told me, he said, you know this stuff. He said,

548
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 3: you know this. But even even before that, he told

549
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: me said learn everything. He said, I know, coach told

550
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 3: you to be Z learn X learn Why learn h

551
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: Because what's gonna happen is practices are gonna run long

552
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: guys are gonna get hurt. Somebody's gonna run two gol

553
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: routes back to back, and coach is gonna turn around

554
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: and go, I need an X. Now, you know coach

555
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: already told you just learned Z. But imagine when he

556
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 3: turns around and says, hey, I need an X, and

557
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: you go, I got it. And he looks at you

558
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: and he goes, but I told you to learn Z,

559
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 3: and I go, I know, but X two And then

560
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: you go out there and you perform it. He doesn't

561
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: forget that. But if he turns around and you go,

562
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 3: I need an X, and you're looking at him and

563
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 3: you turn around, you're looking for X two because you

564
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: didn't take the initiative. But that keeps you on a

565
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: roster another year, another two years, that coach leaves and

566
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: goes somewhere else, and he goes, go get me that guy.

567
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 3: This is why you see guys stick around in the league.

568
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: You're like, you know, Matthew Slater from the Patriots spent

569
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: fifteen years in this league. Not because I think Matthew

570
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: Slater finished his career fifteen years and he might have

571
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: had under seventy five recept total receptions did fifteen years

572
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: in the league, went to the Pro Bowl a bunch

573
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: of times for a special team c J.

574
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: Goodman.

575
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: C J good went here. People are like, well, why

576
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: can't see the good with nah? This is why? This

577
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: is why like and that was one of the things

578
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: that like, you go and you asks a guy. You

579
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: go and you asks a guy like Phillip Tanner. You

580
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 3: go and you ask a guy like Dwayne Harris, You

581
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: go and you ask a got go ask Daddy McCrae.

582
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: When those guys came to the team, especially when it

583
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: came to special teams, I felt like I was the

584
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: old vet. So I was pouring gaming at these dudes like, Yo,

585
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: come on, let's go watch film. Hey, let me show

586
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 3: you how to do this in practice, and those guys

587
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 3: to tell you to this day, they'd be like Barry

588
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: told the other day on the on the on the show,

589
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 3: he was like, man.

590
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: We hated it going up against Jesse because.

591
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: We knew what we had to bring every single day.

592
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: You knew it wasn't going to be a cakewalk or

593
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: walk through. It was going to be one hundred miles

594
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: an hour every single day. And so that part of

595
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 3: the veteran that's dying in the naty.

596
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: Do you why do you think in the NFL that's

597
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 5: going away.

598
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: Because you don't have natural leaders coming along. You have

599
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: more selfish that just sensitive dudes all about. That's generational,

600
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: that's that's how they're being brought up. No one's being

601
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: brought up to to like this.

602
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 8: Phones right, there's less interaction, less learning, that's less learned,

603
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 8: like less hands on experience. Like you know, most of us.

604
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 8: I'll speak for me, we were last key kids. You

605
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 8: had to figure it out. Your parents was off working

606
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 8: a double.

607
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: Hey you seven eight years old, You got a key,

608
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: You know how to get home, you know how to

609
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: figure it out.

610
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 5: You missed the bus, Oh well walk right.

611
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: Like for me, I was eight years old taking care

612
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: of a seven year old little brother. Talk about responsibility.

613
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: So like that level of just and now these kids

614
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: and parents, and I'm not talking about anyone's parents, but

615
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: they want to be friendly. They want to be we

616
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 3: want to be buddy, buddy six to even y'all want

617
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 3: to be that. And there's so the leadership is taking

618
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: such a major hit because no one, no one's building

619
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: and growing leaders anymore. Now kids in college, the NIL

620
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: is showing up and everybody.

621
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: Now the mothers and fathers are actually quitting jobs and

622
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: going to schools.

623
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 6: With the key.

624
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 3: But the kids, my.

625
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 6: Kids to practice and picking them up. So there's a

626
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 6: there's a lot the.

627
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: Kids are now supporting the parents, you know, they're they're

628
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 3: now you know, so a lot of that just you know,

629
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: and I don't I'm not trying to get on a

630
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: soapbox or anything like that and how that relates to football,

631
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 3: But you're talking about the athletes. The athletic genetics will

632
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: always be there. But the type of kids that we are,

633
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: like like Dak Prescott is a rare breed, Like it's

634
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: a rare breed. He's like one of the last of

635
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 3: the Mohicans, you know what I'm saying, Like that had

636
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: came up in a generation now where the leadership for

637
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: him is just superb and you don't get that a

638
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: lot of times. You know, like look at the quarterback

639
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,719
Speaker 3: last night that through four interceptions in the you know,

640
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: he ain't that. He don't lead like that. You don't

641
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: see him. You know Tonack's point, he goes to the sideline.

642
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 6: He likes it, almost sleeping. I thit second interception, you

643
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: know what you don't.

644
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: You don't have you don't have a bunch of leader

645
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: of men. We put a lot of that onus, on

646
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 3: the coach and rightfully so, right like the coaches that

647
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: is supposed to be that. But just like man leader

648
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: of men and men in the locker room that people

649
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 3: actually want to follow. You don't see that a lot

650
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: of times in the league. Now you just see you

651
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 3: see a bunch of individuals who want to do it

652
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: their way, who want to who don't want to collaborate,

653
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 3: who who when things aren't going right, they cry, They subtweet,

654
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 3: they sub instagram, They doing all those subliminals like for

655
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 3: and I know we got to go to a break,

656
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: but this is still that blows my mind. Imagine being

657
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Speaker 3: in a building every day. Let's use it so for example,

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Speaker 3: imagine me having a problem with me, me coming to

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Speaker 3: work and seeing him every single day and having a

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Speaker 3: problem with that man, working with this man for hours,

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Speaker 3: only to go subtweet about him later on instead of

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Speaker 3: me going, hey dog, I talk to you for a second.

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Speaker 6: Nothing.

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Speaker 3: It ain't gotta be you know, aggressive physical, Let's talk clearly,

665
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Speaker 3: there's something going on. Let's talk you me by ourselves.

666
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Speaker 3: You look me and I looked you in your eye.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk. They subtweet, they'll talk through the other media.

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00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: Been like, nah, you know, And I'm like.

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Speaker 5: Do you think there's guys in that locker room that

670
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 5: don't talk to each other all year long?

671
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Speaker 3: One hundred percent?

672
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 5: Do you think there's Do you think there's guys in

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Speaker 5: the same position room that don't speak to each other?

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Speaker 3: And it's in a sense of if I have to

675
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Speaker 3: talk to you, like in casual conversation, but real conversations

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Speaker 3: one thousand.

677
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Speaker 5: Percent, just like, Hey, what's up? And that's it? Or

678
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 5: have a problem or have a problem with a guy

679
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Speaker 5: the one that don't one one of a.

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Speaker 3: Pro thousand really shit. A lot of them can't even speak,

681
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Speaker 3: a lot of them can't communicate to the other person

682
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Speaker 3: that I actually wouldn't know how to look at that

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Speaker 3: man and go, let's have a conversation because all they

684
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Speaker 3: know how to do is this.

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Speaker 5: Because I thought the locker room was the one place

686
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Speaker 5: where if you had a problem with another man, you

687
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 5: walked up and you said.

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Speaker 6: Hey, let's let's figure this out.

689
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 3: It used to be, right, it used to be.

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Speaker 6: When did that change? The folk?

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Speaker 3: This when that social media thing started happening.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to a break and I will let Jesse

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys. The final segment

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Speaker 5: brought to you each and every show by seven to eleven,

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Speaker 5: Always open, And we will talk to you tomorrow about

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Speaker 5: who's going to always be open on Sunday. But right

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Speaker 5: now we are talking about players, locker rooms, things like that. Nate,

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Speaker 5: You've you've referenced several times on the show. Charles was

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Speaker 5: the one that taught you how to work out, be accountable.

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00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: He was he was your He was your accountability part

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00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: as they called it today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, did you? He was on the kind

744
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 5: of the workout side and the being in the facility

745
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 5: was there were there other guys that helped you, like

746
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Speaker 5: account study, film or whatever.

747
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: Eric Williams, Josh is trying to get us all together,

748
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: you know that whether it's in the works, you know,

749
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Speaker 2: to try to do the original all us that would

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Speaker 2: be awesome. And so and I was telling Josh the

751
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: guys that he needed. Eric Williams changed who we were.

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00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: We were a mally like group, you know, we we

753
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: were all people. But when Eric came Eric Williams, it

754
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 2: was on exces uptable not to dominate.

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Speaker 6: That was unacceptable.

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Speaker 2: If I if I lined up John Rounder was an

757
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: eight time better defensive player than I was offensive player.

758
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Speaker 2: But it went from trying to get through the game

759
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,839
Speaker 2: to by the end of the game, I'm gonna break

760
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,720
Speaker 2: this dude. The mindset changed. And and I ain't ashamed

761
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Speaker 2: to tell you he was five years behind me. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've been at lead two.

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Speaker 6: Or three years. But Big E brought a whole different

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Speaker 6: flavor to the game.

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Speaker 5: Bro And how would he do it? What would he

766
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: talk to you guys?

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00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: Let me give me, give me three give me three minutes.

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Speaker 2: We drafted Big E third or fourth round. John Wooton

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Speaker 2: told me about He says, kid, coming out of Philadelphia night,

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Speaker 2: he ain't none, but you know, like we talked, he

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Speaker 2: ain't number the doll but he said in an other words,

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Speaker 2: in other words, and uh, And I.

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Speaker 6: Said, okay. So we drafted him his rookie year.

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Speaker 2: He used to sit right next to me, and one

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00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: day he looked over at me. You know, he said, boy,

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Speaker 2: next year, I'm gonna I'm gonna show you. You know,

777
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna show you MLS. You're like, okay, alright, alright,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm the right tackle. I'm like, you know,

779
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: like you just gonna get my job. So we was

780
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Speaker 2: in training camp.

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Speaker 5: He was telling you I gonna take your job.

782
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Speaker 6: He was just saying him he was gonna be starting.

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Speaker 2: And so Jimmy came into practice when day, Hey, how

784
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Speaker 2: you walk through that?

785
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Speaker 6: Hey, fellas, how are y'all doing? Hey, we're doing a

786
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 6: good coach, you know.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Big E was sitting right here. I'm sitting right Hey, Big,

788
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there. I'm big, and you mean big is

789
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: the right tackle? Okay, my job gone.

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Speaker 6: I go to Jimmy. Hey, Jimmy, when.

791
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Speaker 2: You moved me over here, this right tackle, I was

792
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Speaker 2: your best left guard. I'm still your best. So he

793
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Speaker 2: put me back and left guard start and that not

794
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: golding out. But back to Big E. And I've told

795
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Speaker 2: the story before. We was getting ready to play Kansas

796
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: City Beafs. They had a great defensive end and I

797
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 2: can't think of this kid's name. And I was trying

798
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: to help Biggie because I played in the year before

799
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: and saying he got long arm, see this, this and this,

800
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Speaker 2: but you ought to be able to counteract this. And

801
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Speaker 2: he stopped me. You know, about thirty minutes in he

802
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: looked at me and he said, he said, he said,

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Speaker 2: Big New, you're getting this dude too much respect.

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Speaker 6: I said, nah dog no all pro pro bo. He said.

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Speaker 2: I understand what he is on paper. He said, but

806
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: you're giving this dude too much respect. And I ain't

807
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: talking Neil Smith. I'm telling you, brother Neil Smith, all

808
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: pro to dude. And I said, he this dude, the

809
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Speaker 2: beast bro. And he said, look me right in my eye.

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Speaker 2: Do you like Jesse say, look me right in my

811
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Speaker 2: mind and say I'm gonna female dog him. By halftime,

812
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: he gonna be screaming. I backed up. I said, all right, alright,

813
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: I put my hand ready for Ali. He said, okay, halftime, real,

814
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: you gotta get his hands out in my face.

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Speaker 6: REALP.

816
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Speaker 2: This ain't football real. You need to do this, relp.

817
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: He hit me in the thought, Ralph, I mean just

818
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: the whole first half. Then Biggie looked at me, got him,

819
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Speaker 2: and from that day on I never questioned it. And

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Speaker 2: then we's the season going on, right, Biggie. You know

821
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Speaker 2: he called it be slapping, y'all know what I'm saying.

822
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Speaker 2: When he say be slapping, He be slapping everybody around.

823
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Speaker 2: And he looked at me one day and a dude

824
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Speaker 2: got the best of me, and he looked at me.

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Speaker 6: He said, big noon, come on, dog, you can't. Oh,

826
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Speaker 6: you let this dude do.

827
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Speaker 2: And from that point on, I picked my game up

828
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Speaker 2: and I went to be slapping. They stay you know

829
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Speaker 2: two way over there be slapping. And little step Knosky

830
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: was always like that. He was always so All of

831
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Speaker 2: a sudden, we went from just so kind of a

832
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: soft like you say soft, you know, mulling people to

833
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: dominating dominated all started.

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Speaker 6: It all started with that one dude. It started an attitude.

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Speaker 6: Oh yes, sir, when Larry Avin came in.

836
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Speaker 2: Man, come on, you thought you were going to prison. Bro,

837
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Speaker 2: you thought you were going to prison. After that, we

838
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Speaker 2: were serving you after that, bro. Yeah, Man, Big East

839
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Speaker 2: started that. And and I'm waiting on that. Who is

840
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Speaker 2: that dude over there that ain't gonna accept.

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Speaker 5: Do those DAWs even exist?

842
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Speaker 6: Now? Yes?

843
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Speaker 2: Here one and this one and it's one. He's old,

844
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Speaker 2: but he's with the forty nine ers. He played left tackle.

845
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Speaker 6: Trip Williams come on, broh two or three years ago

846
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 6: out to put him against anybody in the league.

847
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: He was gonna shut you down, anybody in the league.

848
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Speaker 7: Tyler Smith's got any of that.

849
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Speaker 6: I don't know. He hurt this year. I don't know.

850
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 6: I thought this was gonna be his year, but he's

851
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 6: hurt this year.

852
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Speaker 3: I don't know physical that that comes to the part

853
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: of are you willing as a you know, I saw

854
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: something like it was an article talked about Shoddy. I

855
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 3: think Joe Hoyt wrote the article, and they talked about

856
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: Shoddy giving either Tyler Smith or Tyler Book are a little

857
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Speaker 3: bit more leeway to talk and speak.

858
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Speaker 6: Up a little bit.

859
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: But you know, and this is the part what I'm

860
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: talking about is sometimes Tyler Smith, I'm not I'm just

861
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 3: using him as an example. I'm not calling Tyler Smith out,

862
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 3: but a lot of these players in today's game have

863
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 3: this or I'm gonna do my job, which is fair,

864
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: which is fair, Right, do your job, but also how

865
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Speaker 3: do you impact the guy next year? Yes, sir, right

866
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 3: do your job. That is that is paramount. That is

867
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: first line. But like he just said, he looked at

868
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Speaker 3: him and said, you let him do this to you.

869
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean let him do this to you.

870
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Speaker 3: And that's that's him taking his game to the next

871
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: level and then now forcing you to take your And

872
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if those there's not an abundance of

873
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: those people. There's not. There's not a they're not walking

874
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: around like they used to like he said. When Charles

875
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: Haley came over, he looked him in the eye and

876
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 3: he said, he said, man, you're a good player, he said,

877
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: but after about six games you trash. He said, what

878
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: he said, Man, I studied you. He said, man, ear

879
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: start the year, you you whooping on folks. And he said,

880
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: but you're fat, out of shape, so you wear down.

881
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 3: By the end of the season, you nothing. That was

882
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: That was another guy on the side of the ball

883
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 3: and saying, if we're going to be better, not only

884
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 3: do I have to hold my endo the bargain, but

885
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 3: I now have to start challenging those that I think

886
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: are good enough to accept the challenge and then be

887
00:46:54,520 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 3: okay with whatever the backlashes, because everybody's not gonna accept it.

888
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: But what ends up happening is is when Charles is

889
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: saying it, and when Russell Maryland is saying it, and

890
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: when Big E is saying it, and when Larry is

891
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: you start sticking out like a sore thumb.

892
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 5: You become the minority.

893
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 6: You become the minority.

894
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: And I think nowadays we have too many pockets where

895
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: guys can go and hide and be mediocre. With the

896
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 3: other mediocre.

897
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 5: Because you don't have enough of those guys in each room.

898
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So like you see, guys, now

899
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 3: we're going hide with other sorry dudes and click up

900
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: with all the sorry dudes, and not all of a

901
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 3: sudden they become a strong posse of sorry dudes that

902
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: go against the establishment, that go against the standard.

903
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: That's why Shoddy has these games and stuff in place,

904
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: not so much to bring the com but for you

905
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: to know so I can feel comfroble. Hey, just say

906
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: what he say, you, Kurt say, we can feel confromle man.

907
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 6: My kids are sick. Really, how many kids you got?

908
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 6: It just started a conversation. That's why that man got

909
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 6: all that stuff over there.

910
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: But that has to go onto the field too, and

911
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: it has to You gotta be able to because I'm

912
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 3: not gonna trust you in war and left top of

913
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: being in war with you, that's just what it is.

914
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna truly believe you got

915
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: my six until we've been in some stuff and you

916
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: have my six.

917
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Bro, I'm gonna tell you.

918
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something, And like I tell people

919
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: I was so immature. That's why I don't have no

920
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 2: problems telling people. I was immature to the point where

921
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: Nate don't jump out side. When I see a dude

922
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:43,439
Speaker 2: continue to jump outside, I'm like, where is his teammates? Well,

923
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: if you gotta grab him by his breeches and said, on,

924
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: you ain't jumping off side.

925
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 6: We need this play. Come on, man, what man? You

926
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 6: know you don't want to tell a dude. Bro, If

927
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: this jewel dumb offside, we about to lose this game.

928
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 5: Bro.

929
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 6: Just hey man, it's covered too.

930
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: Hey brother, hey man, I'm lying back and look here, Bro,

931
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: you got this cover too. You got this deepest, man, Bro.

932
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: We got them by three. They on our fifty.

933
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 6: We cannot let this dude get behind us. What is

934
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 6: wrong with telling the player that everybody out there just quiet?

935
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: Come on, man, and I'll say this to him. I

936
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: remember a play that happened when Tank Lawrence and Michael

937
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: Parson was here and the defense was going bad, and

938
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 3: and Mike's over there screaming, and Tank just looks up

939
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: at him and said, you kill y'all. Nobody, you messing up.

940
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 6: I just was like, there it goes.

941
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: But and now to him and Tank Lawrence over there,

942
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: just whooping up, folks.

943
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 6: I hate you take.

944
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 5: Lord Jesse, great stuff, Nate, great stuff. Kurk, good seeing

945
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: your brother tomorrow. What do we got Cowboys offense? Vikings,

946
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 5: Vikings defense?

947
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 3: Talk about another sicco We got one, Ryan Flores, Blitz

948
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 3: Blitz and Moe Blitz.

949
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 5: We'll talk about it tomorrow. Chris, thanks for showing up. Josh,

950
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 5: thanks for keeping them Comping' be back tomorrow.

951
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 6: Hang up with the Boys three four running a three

952
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 6: four base.

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