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And most 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.880 of the basketball we've been talking about is over twenty 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.959 years old, because we're still talking about Michael Jordan. Horace Grant, 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:28.920 former Chicago ball he is going down swinging here. He 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:30.960 was talking about a variety of things. When he was 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:34.240 on ESPN one thousand the other day, talked about his 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.640 lack of relationship with Michael Jordan. He went on a 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:42.280 show bet online and had this to say about the 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:46.759 famous story that Michael Jordan said to the flight attendant 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.320 on the charter, do not let Horace have food. He 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.680 didn't play well enough to get food after a game. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.320 Here is Horace Grant talking about that incident. Let me 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.640 cliff something up about this food that he tried to 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.520 take my food. I would have beat his ass. Guys, 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.120 he can say to the stewards all he want to, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:11.840 Oh yeah he should eat, that's okay, go ahead, you 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.560 know I'm gonna say what I have to say. But 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:16.000 you come back and try to take my food, I 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.200 would have whipped that. It wouldn't be no air Jordan's 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:21.280 right now. Yeah, it wouldn't have been those six Championships. 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:26.400 I guarantee you that I believe it. I do. I 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.360 believe the story, and I believe Horace would have gone 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.760 back there and challenge Michael Jordan. I believe that. He 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:36.440 also talked about Missus Horace Scramp. He won three titles 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.360 with Michael before going to Orlando. He talked about the 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.120 way Scottie Pippen was portrayed in the documentary. It was 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:46.920 straight up. It was straight up, straight up, how they 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.440 portrayed Scotty being a number two on that team, how 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.760 he came out against Utah, could barely walk, setting screens, 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:58.000 getting knocked on the floor, the whole nine yards and 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:02.040 for them that documented did him well. Mj called himself 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:05.280 is SMBs. If it one foot Scott to Pippen, it 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.520 would be no six championship. I'm telling you right now, guys, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.200 that's Horace Grant. Now. Much was made of Michael Jordan 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.000 saying that Horace Grant was the snitch for the Sam 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.880 Smith book, The Jordan Rules. We reached out to Sam 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:23.679 Smith yesterday and we wanted some clarification, whether it was 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:25.600 on the record or off the record, whatever, he was 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.000 comfortable about what role did Horace grant play in the 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.440 Jordan rules. Was he the snitch? And you know, Fritzie 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.800 emailed him and said, look, we'll haven't We'll keep it 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.040 off the record, or you can put it on the 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.680 record whatever you want to say. And Sam Smith sent 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.400 an email that says the following. Let me put it 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.360 this way. I've got a degree in business and worked 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.360 for a Big eight accounting firm as a staff auditor. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.200 Then I got a master's in journalism, was an investigative 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.800 reporter in Indiana and won national awards. City officials were 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.680 charged as a result. Went to Washington doing investigative work 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.480 and covering Congress and the White House. Then worked on 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.200 the staff of a US Senator as his press secretary. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.160 Left DC in nineteen seventy nine, helped cover the nineteen 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.279 eighty presidential campaign and national stories for the Chicago Tribune. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:22.760 Had written freelance sports in DC, then switched to sports 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:26.119 at the Tribune in the early eighties. Was writing about 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.320 the Bulls and the NBA from the time Jordan arrived. 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.000 But then a relatively unsophisticated twenty two year old from 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.160 rural Georgia who basically never was out of the state 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:42.440 comes to Chicago in nineteen eighty seven. So now I 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.360 finally am able to write a one hundred thousand word 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.320 book that includes dozens of on the record interviews with 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:54.560 principles and substantial details from before Horace Grant arrived in Chicago. 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:58.880 Because Horace Grant is pointing me in the right direction, 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.880 question Mark, so that's your story? Sam Smith basically saying, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:09.320 look at what I've done. And plus, you know, he 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.320 was interviewing a lot of people for this book, and 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.800 I had not heard that Horace Grant was the snitch. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.159 If you want to call him a snitch, you know 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:19.320 used to be you were a source. Mike calls him 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:23.240 a snitch. I was told that there were other people 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:28.839 in the organization who were better sources here. I don't 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.760 know what Horace Grant's role was. But Sam Smith is 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.359 basically saying, everything I've accomplished in my career, I'm going 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.320 to pen my book one hundred thousand words on Horace Grant, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.680 who was a twenty two year old. How much access 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.400 would he have to Michael Jordan? What would he be 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.960 able to tell me? Now? Horace Grant is friends with 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.159 Sam Smith, and I think to this day still friends. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.680 But Just because you're twenty two years of age from 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:58.240 rural Georgia and you're considered unsophisticated doesn't mean you can't 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.840 be a source on this. Mike is calling him a snitch, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.719 and that's different. You know, Mike didn't call out anybody 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.760 else who was talking to Sam Smith. I don't think 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.200 and I'm going to guess that if you had an 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:15.880 unnamed source, Horace Grant wouldn't have been the only unnamed source. 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.760 But you know, once Michael gets it in his head 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.120 that he's mad at you or there's a grudge, it's 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.600 not leaving. I mean, he threw away a friendship with 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.520 Charles Barkley. It's over because Charles had the audacity to 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:36.000 critique him as an owner while giving Michael actual pertinent 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:40.360 information from Charles perspective of you got yes men around you, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.680 you need to have somebody who tells you no or 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.400 they disagree with you. That's I mean. Charles is say 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.719 Charles doesn't have a mean bone in his body, but 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.839 Michael hears it and says, hey, who are you to 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:58.280 be criticizing me publicly? Well, Charles was asked about it, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.880 and he is an analyst, and he gave an honest 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.200 opinion there now, should he have kept it in house 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.920 as he said it to Michael privately? I don't know that, 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:12.000 But that relationship's gone. The Isaiah Thomas situation. That relationship 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:17.120 is gone. Scottie Pippen, that relationship feels like it's a 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:21.040 little fragile right now. Jerry Krause, the late Jerry Krause, 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.480 that relationship was never a relationship. If Michael didn't like you, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.400 didn't respect you, it was going to be hard for 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.760 you to get back into his good graces. I don't 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:32.880 know what else is in play with Horace Grant and 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.280 Michael Jordan, but it feels like there's a lot of 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.480 venom there, a lot of venom. Plus we've been talking 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.840 about the greatness of Michael Jordan, and rightfully so I 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.920 understand it. We tend to look at Michael and say, 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.720 the great elixir is when you win titles. It doesn't 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.720 matter what you do prior to winning the title. As 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:54.480 long as you win the title, doesn't matter. How you act, 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:58.680 how you treat people, who you are doesn't matter. The 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:03.920 results bear everything, and that's what's happened. We look back 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.480 and go, oh my god, that's how he that's how 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.200 he was as a teammate. Yeah, hey, but day won. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:17.080 They won six titles. We would rather have that where 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.440 you have this single mindedness that I have to win championships. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.080 Any So what if I'm a bad guy or not 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.840 a good teammate or whatever. You know, I hold grudges. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.400 All right, we don't care. Hey you won, all right. 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:33.520 We don't allow every athlete to have that latitude, but 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:38.160 with Michael we do because there's a true fascination. Paul Pierce, 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:44.400 former Boston Celtic Craig He's involved in this situation a 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:48.160 little bit on the priphery because Paul Pierce was asked 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:54.280 about who are his top five players all time? Bill 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.000 Russell built up the organization of Boston to get way 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.959 more aquied than we give him a lot of time 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.120 as he gets left off the conversation. So I'm saying 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.280 that Kareem look at the names that I said, Kareem Magic, Jordan, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:13.160 Tim Duck Bird. These guys are all top ten players 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.680 who wouldn't either help build up their organization or continue 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:22.560 the tradition. And the one from Lebron he went and 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:28.120 put together a team in Miami. Okay, Now, Paul can 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.400 have his opinions, but he hass to admit that he 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:35.480 doesn't like Lebron. He has to admit that you may 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.400 not want to put him in your top five. That's fine. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.080 You want to put Kobe in there or Shock in there. 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.160 Kareem Like, that's fine, just if you're gonna say, hey, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:49.720 Kareem is in there. Kareem didn't build up the Laker organization, Paul, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:55.120 go back to Jerry West, Elgin, Baylor, Will Chamberlain. They 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:57.560 helped build up the franchise. So let's you already are 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.240 flawed with that. And you forget Lebron took a Cleveland 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.040 team to the finals when he was twenty two years 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:09.679 of age. They had nobody on the roster and Cleveland 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.880 has no history of ever winning in basketball. That's when 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:18.320 you build up a franchise. And yes, he did go 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:23.040 to Miami to join Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade to 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.600 counter your big three because you got Kevin Garnett and 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:34.600 you got Ray Allen. Okay, he did exactly what the 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:38.199 Celtics were able to do. They built a team, They 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:42.160 brought in Kevin Garnett, they brought in Ray Allen. Lebron 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.920 joined Dwayne Wade and joined Chris Bosh that cancels each 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:51.280 other out there. Here's Kendrick Perkins ESPN NBA analyst talking 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:56.160 about Paul Pierce, Lebron James and their relationship. Lebron James 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.400 and Paul Piers hate each other. They don't speak to 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.000 each other even now to day. I don't know if 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.480 you remember, Cassie, we was doing hoopstreams in Houston against 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.199 the Lakers. You remember Braun walked by us and says 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.240 somebody before his pregame shot. He did not speak to Paul. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.880 That's the backstore. So I think Paul, this is kind 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.160 of more personal towards Lebron than just say because it's 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:23.520 no way in hill that you could say Lebron James 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.120 is not top five. You may not have him as 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.960 your goat, But to say that he's not top five, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.040 that's just crazy. And I love Paul, but that's that's 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.880 kind of I think it's more personal than anything. Yes, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.880 it is. It's very personally. Paul may not like Lebron 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.920 because Lebron closed out the Celtics with a forty five, 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.840 fifteen and five performance. That would make me not like somebody, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:50.360 but everybody can have their opinions on their top five, 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.480 their top ten. But when I think your opinion is 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:57.120 flawed is when I'll call you out. If you love 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.600 Bill Russell great, make Bill Russell the goat, I have 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:04.320 no problem with that, But don't tell me. Hey, all 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:07.840 these other guys built up this franchise. He's got Tim 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.560 Duncan ahead of Lebron James. Tim Duncan didn't build up 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:17.199 San Antonio. Last I looked, it started with the Admiral. 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.360 Now you can say Tim, and Tim's one of the 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:23.880 great players of all time, decorated five titles. I'm okay 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.000 with all of that. But when you say these people 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.400 I'm putting in here helped build up a franchise, tell 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.200 me who did what Lebron did at age twenty two 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:39.040 with a team that was not good. He's in Cleveland, 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.839 the pressure of his hometown to try to deliver and 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:48.560 was able to do what Lebron James did exactly and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.000 then to go back to Cleveland and deliver on a 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.280 promise and deliver a championship. And he actually had some 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.600 help then with Kevin Love and Kyrie Irving. He had 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:05.640 some help there. But Paul Pierce should just admit, look, hey, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:09.200 I don't like Lebron James just say that we don't 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.360 like each other. I'm fine with that. It was a 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.439 rivalry in a time with the NBA where it's kind 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:21.280 of devoid of rivalries. You had one there. They didn't 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.760 like each other. The fact that the Celtics still don't 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:26.880 like Ray Allen because he had the audacity to go 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:30.400 to Miami, I mean, that's a rivalry. I'm cool with that. 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:35.599 But you can't sit here and say Lebron. Lebron's the 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.000 top five player of all time. He just is. But 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.240 if if he wants to do maybe he's just trolling. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.719 Maybe he's learning. You know, Kendrick Perkins does this all 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:46.760 the time. He does it well. By the way, those 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.840 clips are courtesy of ESPN. Yes, Paul, I have a 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.880 question about an all time NBA player, But I want 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:55.320 to present a theory to you. Briefly, they will Chamberlain 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.920 is never mentioned in the all time NBA greats that 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.040 upper echelone. I don't think anyone ever mentions him in 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.040 the top ten. And my theory is he is kind 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:05.800 of like an anomaly, a freak. He's on his own island. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.760 I don't know, if he's like Babe Ruth or Jim Brown, 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.360 where he was so freakish as an athlete and so 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:14.800 much different than who he's going against, he is boxed 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:18.880 out of the conversation, no pun because of his dominance 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.360 that he's just kind of on an island of his own. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.360 The guy was an All Star every year. He was 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:29.120 an MVP like half a dozen times. He had seasons 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.160 with forty five and twenty four. That's double at what 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:34.240 a good player does. Now, why do you think Wilt 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.480 Chamberll is not considered by most lists? He didn't win, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:43.800 But if he didn't win, that's it. If Wilt was 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:47.720 never known as a winner. Okay, And that was always 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.840 the knock on Wilt because he had Russell and Russell won. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:58.080 Wilt was the better player, but Russell won. And if 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.360 you're saying, hey, who you're arding your team with, it 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.240 depends on who's my team. Because if I don't have 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:07.520 to have Bill Russell do anything offensively, Bill Russell would 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:10.600 be the ideal guy to have. But I think Will 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:14.480 Chamberlain wanted to prove that he could do what Bill 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.080 Russell did because if you look at what he did 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.280 when he was with the Lakers when they won thirty 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.440 three in a row. Wilt did not score. He rebounded, 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:30.920 block shots. He played a Bill Russell like position. But 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.960 even then, he's averaging close to what Russell's best season was. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:39.840 I think Russell was maybe sixteen points. Chamberlain averaged fifteen 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.760 points that year. But he wanted to block shots, rebound 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:47.840 and lead the scoring to Jerry West and Gail Goodrich, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.400 Jim McMillan, those guys. That's what he did. He wanted 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.880 to prove he led the league and assist as a center. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:01.520 Wilt wanted to prove you wrong. He just he didn't win. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.080 And because of that we looked at him and as 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:08.160 a statistical anomaly and say, boy, those are great numbers, 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.560 but you're not a winner. And it's the worst thing 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:17.960 you can say about somebody. You're not a winner. But yeah, 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.520 Will Will was the most dominating player because of what 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.400 he did, how he did it. You know, he averaged 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.640 fifty points in the season, fifty point four. I think 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:33.680 he played. I think he played every something, and he 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:38.640 never fouled out. How's that possible? Never fouled out? And 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.360 I saw him when he wasn't the dominating force. I 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.600 saw him when he was a defensive force with those 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:49.560 Lakers back in the early seventies. But also understand this, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.840 it's like the NFL doesn't track sacks. Prior to I 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:57.760 think nineteen eighty two, the NBA did not have a 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.600 you know, they didn't follow the block shot stat I 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:04.080 don't know what Russell would have had or what Wilt 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:08.600 would have had, but just imagine they didn't even track 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.960 those stats back then. All right, we'll take a break. 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.400 We got some phone calls coming up. Eight seven seven 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:19.440 three d P show email address DPA Dan Patrick dot com. Ah. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.040 You know, sometimes we come in and we go I 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:22.879 don't know if I can fill up three hours, and 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.800 then other times I come in, which has been probably 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:30.399 more of what this has been. We have so many 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:36.160 things to talk about. It's really incredible, it is. There's 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.800 so much going on with no games going on. There's 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.719 so much going on, so many stories here. Now granted 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:46.400 they might be stories we wouldn't normally cover, but it's 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:50.159 pretty fascinating. Yeah. Point, the NBA films went back and 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.120 they found some different stats on Wilt Chamberlain. There were 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.600 games where later in his career they started checking blocks, 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.320 putting blocks in the official scoreboard, and so one hundred 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:04.280 and twelve of Wilt chamberlains thirteen hundred and five NBA games, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.160 blocks were kept. In those one hundred and twelve games, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:11.000 he averaged eight point blocks per game, eight point eight 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.480 and that was for a season. So there was a 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.600 season where he averaged eight point eight blocks per game. 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.960 The highest other than eight point eight is five point 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:22.280 six by Mark Eaton for one season. Well what about Russell? Again, 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.359 he was in that era where they didn't keep track, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.840 So I gotta check if he ever had him kept track? 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.240 All right? When we come back, was Stewart Scott onto 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.399 something the night he did the highlights of the NBA 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:37.520 Finals when Michael had the flu game now known as 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:43.879 food poisoning. We'll bring back Stewart Scott a clip from 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.919 Sports Center that night that I did not know. I 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.520 was out in Utah that night and Stewart was thrown 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.280 to me when I was doing the postgame interviews, but 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.800 I did not know how he led into the highlights 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:57.280 that night. Have that for you and your phone calls 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.960 twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.399 Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.320 sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:08.680 noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.320 Find your local station for the Dan Patrick Show at 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.320 Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:18.280 day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R. 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:23.679 I noticed this, and I wasn't thinking about it, but 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:25.760 it was there right in front of me, and I 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.320 didn't even know this. I'm watching Scott Van Peldon Sports 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:34.240 Center last night and Van Peasey plays Stewart Scott's highlights 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.840 the night of the flu game. Now the food poisoning. 0:19:37.359 --> 0:19:41.280 So Stewart is there in Bristol at the Mothership headquarters 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.680 and he is leading into the highlights. So the game 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.920 is over and he's leading into the highlights. Now listen 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:52.760 to what Stewart Scott says on Sports Center leading into 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:56.840 the highlights that night about Michael Jordan and his health. 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.440 Maybe it was takeout food. The bulls Parks It dwelling 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.320 in Utah does not have room service. But at five 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.920 ten Utah time, Michael got to the arena a touch 0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.320 of the flu after sleeping all day. No doubt though 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.960 the four time finals MVP would started. Okay, let me 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:18.359 go back and play what Stewart said that night. This 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.720 is you know, probably ten minutes, fifteen minutes, twenty minutes 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.560 after the game where Mike is sick, but he comes 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:28.400 back and of course has this heroic performance in game five. 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:32.600 This is what Stewart Scott said that night. Maybe it 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.800 was takeout food the bulls. Park City dwelling in Utah 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.240 does not have room service. But at five ten, Utah time, 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.840 Michael got to the arena. So the flu episode, once again, 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:46.960 we weren't staying there. ESPN was staying in Salt Lake City, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:50.399 downtown Salt Lake City. I was told that Mike was 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:53.000 staying in Park City. Now we're finding out that that's true. 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:58.159 And where he was staying from what I was told 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:03.440 was not a hotel, and so he had the top 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.800 floor and he had friends there. There were three people 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.080 that I met a year and a half ago who said, 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.280 we worked that night. We worked that night and we delivered. 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.080 You know, we were basically bartenders there. But Stewart is 0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:21.960 finding that Stewart knew this. Then how did he find 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.040 out that they don't have room service and he is 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:29.840 suspecting takeout. I'm gonna play it one more time just 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:34.840 because I'm blown away by this, and maybe it was 0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:38.280 takeout food. The bulls Park City dwelling in Utah does 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:41.240 not have room service, but at five ten, Utah time, 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.920 Michael got to the arena a touch of the flu 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.359 after sleeping all day. Man, that's out, that's outside the lines. 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:54.080 There aided bobbly boo. Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty good. Now. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.840 I know Stewart was friends with Mike, but I don't 0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:59.320 know if Mike would have been been on the phone 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.679 or if Stewart checked in with a mod rashad. But 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.879 I will say this, Stewart was he was great with 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:14.080 attention to detail. He would drive the stats people crazy, 0:22:14.280 --> 0:22:18.000 our research department, He'd drive them crazy because he always 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.840 wanted to give you something that nobody else could. And man, 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:28.600 I applaud you, Stu. That is awesome. Pretty good. Yeah, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:37.080 seton Hey, Satan. Yeah, I was gonna ask if Stuart's 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.560 Scott Michael Jordan were friends then yeah they. I don't 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:43.280 know when that friendship started, but hear me, Yeah, I 0:22:43.280 --> 0:22:51.680 got you. Can you hear me? Don't? I think Satan 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:55.560 might be down there. Yeah, they became friends both going 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.520 to North Carolina, and I think Stewart did interviews with 0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:04.040 him soon after that, but yeah, they were pretty tight. 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.240 And uh, I think Stewart got to be part of 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:10.040 that inner circle with Michael Jordan. But i'd never heard that. 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.120 And once again, I'm out in Salt Lake and we're 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:17.119 doing the postgame coverage. I don't I can't hear what 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:20.720 Stewart's saying until he throws it to me. And the 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.600 fact that this is the night of. This isn't a 0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:27.840 week later, this isn't twenty two years later. This is 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:30.200 the night of. And he's leading in and he's talking 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:34.639 about a hotel that didn't have room service and it 0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.479 might have been takeout. Good God, imagine if he had 0:23:37.480 --> 0:23:41.960 said bad pizza here, like, come on, Stewart, I'd give 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:46.280 you a posthumous Emmy there for something like that. Yeah, 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:49.440 that's that's good stuff there. All right, we'll get to 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:53.840 phone calls coming up. Doug, Doug Gottlieb just joined us 0:23:53.960 --> 0:24:00.560 via zoom. Doug, can you hear me? I can't in 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:03.600 my car, listening as I do every morning, taking my 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:09.000 dog for a walk. And yeah, that's that's Odell Beckham 0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.240 junior junior in the background. And I was I wanted 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:15.359 to help you out here. I completely disagree with you 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:17.720 on Kareem, and I'll tell you why in a second. 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:23.240 But the pettiness of Paul Pierce. And I've known Paul Pierce. 0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:26.320 We graduated same year high school. He was my roommate 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.239 at ABCUD. Like, look, Paul's a prideful guy, and I 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.080 think the fact that he was a great player in 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.600 this and people don't talk about him, I'm sure that 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.040 doesn't sit well with him. But look again, he's doing 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:41.000