1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: The volume, what is going on everybody? John Middlecock three 2 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and our podcast schedule release week Buckle up, let's do it. 3 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: It's here, rocking and rolling, baby. I'm sure we will 4 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: have a big podcast on Friday. Reacting to the schedule release. 5 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Do have some thoughts about the changes for the Thursday 6 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: Night Football that now you can play multiple times, Dan Snyder, 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. We will dive into it all as well 8 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: as a big mail bag at John middlecoff is the Instagram. 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Just fire into those dms. It's just my name at 10 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: my name and the dms are wide open and get 11 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: your question answered here on the show, ask me anything. 12 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: We'll be rocking and rolling. We're live on app, Live 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: on app, download, Amazon Amp, find it on YouTube as 14 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: well and any other housekeeping I don't think so hopefully yeah, 15 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: should be should be it. But first, do you want 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: to get outside this summer? Do you want to go 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: do something? You should get outside your home this spring 18 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: this summer, enjoy the sun, enjoy a nice cool night, 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: and do it with my friends. At game time, you 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: can go to a concert, you can go to a 21 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: baseball game, you go to an NHL playoff game, that's 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: inside you can go to comedy show, you can do 23 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: whatever you want and download the app, the official ticketing 24 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: app of this show. Promo code John twenty dollars off. 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: No big deal throwing you guys a boat. I don't 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: even need to thank you. Just go take a brother, 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: take a cousin, take your wife, take your mom or dad, 28 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: and go do something fun and do it with a 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: little discount for me. So go to your app store 30 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: download the game Time app. You can go do anything 31 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: you want, comedy shows, concerts, to games, and use the 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: promo code John. That's my name, Jochen and get twenty 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: dollars off. NFL schedule release. For a split second on 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Monday morning, Peter King had reported it was going to 35 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: get pushed back, and then by about mid afternoon West 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Coast time, Adam Schefter had said it's on release Thursday, 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: five o'clock. Be there, b square. So clearly Roger Goodell 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: signed off on everything. The schedule is set, and by 39 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: throughout the week things will leak. But by Thursday at 40 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: five o'clock Pacific Xander time, or eight o'clock for those 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: of you on the East Coast, we will know all 42 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: of our teams where they're playing when they're playing. Obviously 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: some of it can change a little bit later in 44 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: the season, but schedule release a really big deal. Right. 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: The NFL now has figured out a way to dominate 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: the fall enormous ratings, keep rolling it into after the 47 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, combine free agency, the draft, and then they've 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: thrown this curve ball which is now a massive, massive 49 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: night in the NFL. And one thing really jumped out 50 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: to me, and I'll never forget when I when I 51 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: first moved to the Bay Area, the first couple of years, 52 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I got an accountant in downtown San Francisco, which I 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: had no business going to. I was by far the 54 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: guy's poorest client. I had some friends I went to 55 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: college with. They were crushing it at the time. I 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: was just, you know, a little old radio host. I 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: wasn't even making one hundred and rand and this guy, 58 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: a member, was really cool and he would tell me 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: stories about all these guys he had, these w two 60 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: employees working for Facebook and Google that were making like 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: more money than NFL players. But he said, the funny 62 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: thing is is, you know, he became friends with them 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: and they would talk a big game on Facebook and 64 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: their Twitter accounts about the way they looked at life, 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: and a lot of that was like, you know, raise taxes, 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: And he said, they would walk into my office and 67 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: they would want every tax loophole, you know under the sun. 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: They would want to save every penny, which anyone with 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: the brain always does. But he's like, if you look 70 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: at their Facebook account, that's not the way they're talking. 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: And because a lot of people talk a big game, 72 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: but they don't live it, right, It's why I don't 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: take ninety nine percent of people just publicly what they 74 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: say doesn't mean that much to me. It never has 75 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: why I don't spend that much time getting up in 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: arms about that many things because I think a lot 77 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: of stuff is just complete bullshit, just complete. And so 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: when I see the NFL forever talk a big game 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: about safety, I don't think they actually care. They just 80 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: don't want to get sued and lose a bunch of money, 81 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: which happened to them over the last decade. Right, do 82 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: they actually care what happens to these players? I mean, 83 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: clearly they don't want to lose their star players. But 84 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: if you go to enough practice these random guys, they're 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: very replaceable. I mean, that's just a fact. No one 86 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: wants anyone to get injured, but when you play football, 87 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get injured. But they are over the 88 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: top about their discussion of player safety, player safety, player safety. 89 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: And then it has been reported by Schefter that no 90 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: longer teams for the last when I first got in 91 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, Thursday Night Football was there weren't even a 92 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: full slate of games, right, I think there was like 93 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: five or six. I remember when I was with the 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Eagles we played all three years, but by like the 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: third year, I think the majority of teams were played 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, and then by the middle of the 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: decade it was a full slate, right. And so these 98 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: last several years, whether you're Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady 99 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: or the worst team in the league, you were guaranteed 100 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: to play on Thursday Night Football, but only once. And 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: now that rule is teams can play multiple times. Well, 102 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: clearly Amazon wasn't happy, which kind of a little bit 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: of a head scratcher to me, because one of the 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: things was last year that they had sold their advertising 105 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: at eleven million people and between like nine and nine 106 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: and a half million people watched it. Like I understand 107 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: TNT not being happy with the NBA. They lost half 108 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: their viewers over the last six seven years. So if 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I think and I've sold for two or three million 110 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: people to watch a game and then only seven hundred 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: thousand people watching the game, we have a serious problem. 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: But when you're getting the NFL and I'm driving nine 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: to nine and a half million people to you and 114 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: you thought eleven we're gonna be there, I don't think 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: it's that big a deal. But clearly the NFL does. 116 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: And I don't necessarily think that Amazon is that caught 117 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: up in the short term or either of the NFL. 118 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: But big picture, it is inevitable that all this stuff 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: in the next ten to twenty years is gonna be 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: on these streaming platforms. Right, the NFL is already pivoted. 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: Who has the NFL package now or the NFL you know, 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket YouTube TV? Right? Who has there's an football Amazon? 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: So they they're going above and beyond making these people happy. Well, 124 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: previously it was like get the NFL, We're gonna bend 125 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: you over, We're gonna get the most money and it's 126 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: on you to figure it out. It's kind of what 127 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: the NBA has done. Right, I saw Adam Silver thinks 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna three x their next media deal. It's like, bro, 129 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: your Raids have been in the tank for like eight 130 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: nine years. People think I'm an NBA hater. I grew 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: up when the NBA was thriving under Michael Jordan. I've 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: watched the Warriors pull record ratings, but none of the 133 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: other teams do. The NFL doesn't have that problem. They 134 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: can put a random game on Thursday night football and 135 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: nine million people watch. No other league or any other 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: industry on television, including politics non like a presidential debate 137 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: can sniff that fucking number. But clearly the NFL is 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: going above and beyond and like player safety, complete bullshit. 139 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: If you're making multiple teams play multiple Thursday night games, like, 140 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: to me, that's kind of crazy. But they're doing that 141 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: and that is no longer a rule and expect that 142 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: come Thursday. I would say, if you're a good team 143 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: right all the top, let's just say the top ten 144 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL, and definitely the top needle movers 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL the Chiefs, the Eagles, the Cowboys, now 146 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: that the Giants are good, the Packers with Rogers for 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: sure held the new York Jets, right, I mean these 148 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: power brands, the Steelers when you put them on television 149 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: and the needle moves, the forty nine Ers, these teams, 150 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: there's a decent chance they're getting multiple Thursday night games, 151 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: which seems insane to me. It really does. And I thought, 152 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: I think during the NFL Owners meetings, David Tepper like 153 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: raised his hand, He's like, I don't have it verbade him. 154 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Someone had reported this, like, I know I'm new here, 155 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: but why are we that consumed with Amazon? Like, ultimately 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be pretty good for everyone involved. We 157 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: can't freak out over one year. But this is always 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: the issue with football people, you know, coaches, gms and 159 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: the people that run the league. People that run the league, 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: the owners, the league office only care about cash. I 161 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: mean that is first and foremost. Everything else is secondary. 162 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: We're obviously the gms and the coaches, all they're consumed 163 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: with is winning. Well, they don't go hand in hand 164 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: because if all I'm consumed about is how can I 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: make Amazon happy? And hey, Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen 166 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott, Kyle Shanahan and you know, and SIRIANTI 167 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: and Jalen hurts. You guys got to play multiple Thursday 168 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: night games, multiple short rest weeks. Even if we somehow 169 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: can manipulated a little bit, you get an early start 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: on Sunday, We'll give you a home game. It seems 171 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: crazy to me, but that's where we're headed. Because the 172 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: people consumed with money, they control everything, the teams, the players, 173 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: the coaches, the gms. They just don't now they profit. 174 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: They're making historic amount of money. Being involved in the 175 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: league as a player, as a coach, as an executive, 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: not like a scout, but like as a GM has 177 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: never been financially better. It's also never been more difficult, 178 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: right these OTAs I've been going to these practices forever, 179 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: they're getting less and less like what am I even watching? 180 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: And obviously training camp is just clearly a different animal 181 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: than it has been the past. And I'm not talking 182 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: like junction boys, no water. I'm just talking about running 183 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: real practice where I don't know, tackle to the ground. 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: You don't even do any of that anymore because the 185 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: player safety, player safety, player safety. But really, you know 186 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,359 Speaker 1: why they did that. You know why you get mandatory 187 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: every four days in training camp a day off because 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: that's what the players argued over. You know what, the 189 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: owners and the league office cared about the money. We'll 190 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: give you that because we're gonna take more money. We'll 191 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: give you that because we're gonna have more juice when 192 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: we do something like you know what, Patrick mahomes for 193 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: the next five years, you're gonna play multiple Thursday night games. 194 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's gonna come to fruition, 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: but it's clearly on the table. It's been talked about, 196 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: enough said enough that these Thursday night games being a 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: little under eleven million, Like I would totally understand if 198 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Amazon paid all this money in the league and they 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: thought they were getting eleven million people and six million 200 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,359 Speaker 1: people were watching these games, Like we have a large discrepancy, 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: But I'm sorry that discrepancy, especially in year one, doesn't 202 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: seem that crazy to me. And anyone listening to this 203 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: for a while knows where I stand on the whole 204 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: streaming platform. Like if you don't have Amazon Prime, like, 205 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't really relate to you. I understand 206 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: if you don't have YouTube TV or Hulu TV, you 207 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: will soon maybe not in a year, maybe not five, 208 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: but in the next ten or the next fifteen, you will, 209 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: and that's where the league's gonna be, so that they're 210 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: clearly pivoting with their mindset and they just want these 211 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: guys to be as happy as possible. But I'd also say, like, 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: who is not going to overbid on the NFL. I 213 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: get back to the NBA because I saw that they 214 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: want to three x to their last deal and I 215 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: get live rights is very powerful, But your audience is 216 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: diminished from your last deal. Why are you guaranteed an 217 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: increase in your revenue even if it just stays status quo, 218 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: which was still a lot of money. You see what 219 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: these teams in the league is paying out, Like I 220 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: understood why the NFL got a huge bump in their 221 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: last media rights deal. Their ratings keep going up, right, 222 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: that's just just basic math. Now I just seems crazy 223 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: to me, but we're clearly here. The other thing that 224 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: is pretty interesting is the New York Jets and the 225 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Forever the Green Bay Packers with Rogers 226 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: and far are one of the biggest brands in football. 227 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: They're not quite I wouldn't say the Cowboys, but like 228 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: you put them on National TV Sunday Monday Night you rate, 229 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: you know, and I do wonder if it's going to 230 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: come back to earth a little bit this year. So 231 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: like one of my expectations would be the Packers are 232 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: getting some primetime games, but I bet it's early in 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: the season. Like to me, I would go like Packers 234 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: Bears Week one Monday Night Football, But I don't feel 235 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: as confident doing it later in the season as I 236 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: would of the last thirty plus years. And on the 237 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: flip side, I forget where I heard this, but I 238 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: guess it makes sense that the New York Jets have 239 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: not played on Sunday night football in a decade. That's 240 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: about to change. That's about to seriously change. I would 241 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: expect them, whether it turns out to be the right move, 242 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I would expect the New York Jets to get four 243 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: to five non Thursday night games, you know, several Sundays, 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: multiple Mondays, because part of that division, it's pretty easy 245 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: to do matchups that work on primetime, right you can 246 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: honestly cross pollinate the four teams and it works. Miami, 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: New England now the Jets again, and obviously the Bills. 248 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: One thing that Peter King alluded to is like two teams. 249 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: For example, the Packers and the Patriots are good examples 250 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: that are big brands but might not be playoff teams 251 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: that also could get pigeonholed into those multiple Thursday night windows, 252 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: which I keep getting back to think is insane, Like 253 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: I just don't understand why Amazon has all the juice 254 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: right now, Like to me, the NFL in this relationship, 255 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: it's relatively new, like doesn't need to bend over hand 256 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: and fist just to do everything humanly possible to make 257 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: them feel their best. Like I'd say it's going pretty well. 258 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm out of loop on that one. Two teams, 259 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to be very let's go the two conferences. 260 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: Two teams on both conferences. I'm very interested to see 261 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: how their schedule plays out. Starting with the NFC, everyone's 262 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna pick this team. They're kind of the darling. I 263 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: think they're pretty good on paper. I've got some people 264 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: DM me like I'm a Vikings fan, I'm a Packer fan, 265 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: You're crazy. I think the Lions. I'm going to pick them. 266 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: You know, I picked the Packers last year and the 267 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Vikings won it. So I'm not claiming to be no 268 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: stre damis here, but who what the Lions schedule look 269 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: like is going to be interesting? Is a start fast? 270 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: Is it start easy? You know, because there's gonna be 271 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on this team. Last year, remember 272 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: they started really really slow. I think they finished their 273 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,119 Speaker 1: season eight and two, you know, to become a respectable 274 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: nine to eight. But it's it's going to be a 275 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: different animal where I don't think you're viewed as like 276 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: the obviously some top five team in the league, but 277 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: people are going to take you seriously. And the Giants 278 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: are another team that you know, in theory should be 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: right back in the NFC. But let's face it, like 280 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: even Giants fans would have to admit, like it's very 281 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: impressive what da boll did because our roster wasn't that good. Well, 282 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: your roster isn't that much better a year later? Are 283 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: they just some lock to be a double digit win 284 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: team or do they have a season where they're probably 285 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: still a year away, so maybe you missed the playoffs 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: this year to come back next year to be like 287 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: an eleven win team, I think it's gonna be fair. 288 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: We obviously know their division. The division is really good, 289 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: probably the best in football. That or the AFC North right, 290 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: when you factor in the Eagles are a juggernaut. The 291 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys are damn good, and if Washington's the worst team 292 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: in your division, you got a really good division. And 293 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: then on the flip side, I think two teams that 294 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: are just going to be under an enormous amount of 295 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: pressure are two teams that have super highly paid quarterbacks, 296 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: and that first starting in Denver. Part of that is 297 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: the new coach. And it's not if Russell Wilson can't 298 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: play anymore, that's not Sean Payton's fault. He didn't create 299 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: this mess. He didn't make the trade. But I think 300 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people, myself included, are gonna be like, well, 301 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: even if Russell's a little over the hill, it's going 302 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to be impossible for him to be as shit as 303 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: he was last year, because now he has an eighteen 304 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: million dollar coach. He's got a guy that knows what 305 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: he's doing. And I think the Cleveland Browns man, you 306 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: give a guy two hundred and thirty million dollars, we 307 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: give you a pass, you get suspended. You've had all 308 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: these massage therapists after you because self inflicted. I mean, 309 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't randomly after you, but that is behind everybody now, 310 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: not behind them, but behind the Browns, behind Watson, like 311 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: they're all looking forward. The contract now kicks in. Are 312 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: you just are you gonna be the real deal? Are 313 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: you gonna be a playoff team? Because that division's pretty 314 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: hard right obviously, Lamar now is locked up. The Ravens 315 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: are good. The Bengals are juggernauts right now, right they are, 316 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: you could argue the second best team in the league 317 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: behind the Chiefs, and you know, and the Steelers are 318 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a very very sexy team for people to pick. 319 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I bet some people are gonna pick them to win 320 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: the division. Definitely, a lot of people, myself included, probably 321 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: gonna pick them to be a wildcard team. So the 322 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: amount of pressure when you're paying these quarterbacks this much money. 323 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Denver has this new high price coach Cleveland really good roster, 324 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Like I'm fascinated to watch the way their two schedules, 325 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, kind of break down. So it's gonna be 326 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: interesting with these Thursday night teams. Any fan of you know, 327 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: it's a cool night and it's become kind of a 328 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: lead cash con night to just own. I'm sure there's 329 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: NBA playoffs, the biggest story of that night will be 330 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule release. 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A situation that I just kind 351 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: of found funny was the Washington Commanders. Peter King also 352 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: wrote that you know, this sale has been a little rocky. 353 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a pretty ugly divorce. It's not just 354 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: your seamless like, hey, you want this car twenty grand, 355 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: here's the twenty grand. Take my car. Like this is 356 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: not going And it never was gonna be with Dan 357 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Schnyder some seamless transaction. It was always gonna be weird. 358 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: It was always going to be ugly, and I'll be 359 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: shocked if there aren't some snags along the way before 360 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: we get to the final destination. But this story came 361 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: out the first I saw of it. I guess we 362 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: had talked about it last year that the Commanders before 363 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: or that they traded for Carson Wentz. They called every 364 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: single team in the league about their quarterback, including Mahomes. 365 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: So they were going quarterback shopping and they were willing 366 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: to do whatever it took to get a top quarterback. 367 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: Most teams with good quarterbacks obviously hung up. They ended 368 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: up with Carson Wentz. But one of the stories that 369 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: came out about that, I just saw this because ersa 370 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: tweeted about it that they contacted Andrew Luck, and honestly, 371 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: the first time I heard about it, I just kind 372 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: of laughed, Like when you called Andrew Luck a guy 373 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: that retired because he was often banged up and the 374 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: injuries he just couldn't take anymore. He hated rehab, don't 375 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: blame him, and was just like, I'm done. Well. These 376 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: people Ron and Martin Mayhew work in the NFL, right, 377 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: so they know the rules. It's not like he's just 378 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: out there like some free agent like Tom Brady to 379 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: call it, Hey, would you be interested? So it's not 380 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: just would you be interested, it's like, hey, man, we 381 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: would have to trade the Colts for you, and would 382 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: you want to come play for us in Washington? I 383 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of laughed. Not because it was tampering, it's just 384 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: I don't believe that Washington should have to give up 385 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: some pick over that, But it's also kind of just 386 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: how dumb are you? Right? Like what you think Andrew Luck, 387 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: if he was going to come back, wouldn't you just 388 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: go back to the Colts? Why would he want to 389 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: come to of all teams, your squad that has been, 390 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: let's face it, pretty shitty for a long period of 391 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: time and then Ursa is tweeting that is tampering. And 392 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: I've read a couple of people that are like, I 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: think the Colts are going to try to pursue this. 394 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, Dan Snyder forced them to do it 395 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: as kind of an f you to the league. Didn't 396 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 1: really care if he got in trouble. I don't know, 397 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: but this we can't rid ourselves of this guy quickly 398 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: enough because this is a franchise that you know, if 399 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: they were good, it'd be a lot of fun. They 400 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: showed some signs of life the last couple of years, 401 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: and it's been it's been enjoyable. But to me, as 402 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: long as is he's around, it's kind of this dark 403 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: cloud and this notion that is some lock to just 404 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: be done. I mean, if you ask most people for 405 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: all the NFL's like, oh, Dan Sider's already gone, Like 406 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: we sure, Like, are we totally sure Dan Sider's gone 407 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: by this fall? I mean I think so. But we 408 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: all know Dan Snyder's kind Most of us know that 409 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: guy with a lot less money. One thing they are 410 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: is they're petty, they're vindictive that they don't just go 411 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: without a fight. So whether you're worth one hundred dollars 412 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: or you know, ten billion dollars. That mindset and that 413 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: wiring does not change, and we know this guy man 414 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: is going to make it very very ugly before it's 415 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: all over. One story that came out from a podcast 416 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: the Action Network is where Sobel lives or works? That 417 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: comes on the golf podcast. My guys Stucky gambling and 418 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: they got guys that you know are locked into the 419 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: gambling circle. And there I guess one of their guys 420 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: said on a podcast that the Atlanta Falcons, And this 421 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: would make sense that Arthur Smith went sniffing around to 422 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: see if they get Ryan Tannehill this offseason and whatever 423 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: reason around the draft, the deal didn't go through. Now, 424 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: in fairness, like the Titans, you weren't gonna move on 425 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: from Tannehill before you knew you got a quarterback, and 426 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: then you get Levis in the second round. You might 427 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: as well just ride out Tannehill until you see Levis 428 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: can play. You know, what are you really gonna get 429 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: for Tannehill? That makes sense giving him up. The other 430 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: guy that they sniffed around was Kyler Murray. Now, the 431 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: hard part about Kyler Murray is twofold. One he is 432 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: under a gigantic contract, and the other he currently has 433 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: a torn ACL. So whatever you were going to trade 434 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: the guy, if you are willing to, and of course 435 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: they have a new general manager or new coach, you 436 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: would examine every option and every potential ability to improve 437 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: your team. You would get at best fifty cents on 438 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: the dollar for Kyler Murray. And whatever you want to 439 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: say about Kyler Murray, I'm not the biggest fan. When 440 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: a year ago, even after that devastating loss to the Rams, 441 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: coming into the season, if Kyler Murray did not have 442 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: that gigantic contract, you easily could have got like a 443 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: one in a two, a couple ones, shit them commanders. 444 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: A lot of teams would have traded for him. So 445 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: he's hindered by multiple things now. I also think then 446 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: it would behoove the Arizona Cardinals to not sit and 447 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: clearly they're not. He's not really tradeable now, but I 448 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: think they could potentially benefit from it because if he 449 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: comes back next year and he's healthy and he just 450 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: looks capable again, because there were moments this year before 451 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: he tore his ACL, he does look capable. And if 452 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: you're a coach, and most of these coaches have inflated 453 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: egos and believe they can save people. His talent is 454 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: not really debatable. He is one of the fastest players 455 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: in the league. He's got an enormous arm. When he's rolling, 456 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: he can look like a top six to seven quarterback 457 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: in the league. So what if he comes back this 458 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: year in the second half of the season, he just 459 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 1: looks solid. Then to me in the offseason, cause the 460 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals have two things going for him. One, they're gonna suck, 461 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: meaning they're going to draft very high. They also have 462 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: the Texans pick, who might not draft one or two again, 463 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: but more likely they're closer to ten than they are twenty. 464 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have two picks really high. It's viewed 465 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: as a really good quarterback draft. Hell next year. In general, 466 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I was reading something the top five players going into 467 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: next season in college would be the top five players 468 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: that were just drafted in this draft. They're better than 469 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: every single player in this draft. The only two players 470 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: honestly that went in the top ten that would be 471 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: considered with Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison Junior Brock Bowers Drake May. 472 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his name, but the 473 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: offensive tackle for Penn State, which would have easily been 474 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: a top three or four pick in this draft that 475 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: would be in their category would be Jalen Carter, who 476 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: we all acknowledge was the best player in this draft 477 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: but had major character concerns. And then b John Robinson 478 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: who's a running back, so he just can't go that 479 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: high and he still went eight. So this draft coming 480 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: in is absolutely loaded. So if Kyler Murray comes back, 481 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: he plays just decent. You don't even need to win 482 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: the games, but he just looks healthy. You get some 483 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: momentum going you go, okay, this is a capable guy. 484 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: You can either do two things. You can build around 485 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: him because you might be stuck it might be hard 486 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: to trade that contract. Or if he just looks good enough. 487 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: There are always teams where it's like, you know, especially 488 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: if you go, hey, he's bought in, he's being a 489 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: good guy. You just talk up his character. He's studying, 490 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have time to really talk up like 491 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: how's he acting when he's rehabit is he studying? Is 492 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: he around the OTAs? Is he going to all the meetings? 493 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Because if he's doing that, I actually think you could 494 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: rebuild his value again. He's never gonna be viewed, at 495 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: least in the next twelve months as some star player. Again, 496 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't get back to that. I 497 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: would bet against it, but yeah, I don't when you're 498 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: that talented, Like ultimately, there are some guys Baker Mayfield, 499 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: even Trey Lance has some fundamental flaws the way he 500 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: throws the football that just don't He's not even nearly 501 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: as fast as Kyler, Like, they don't have the capability 502 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: of being that good. So I would bet against it. 503 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: But the capability is there A lot of guys like 504 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson does not. Zach Wilson can't complete an out route. Yeah, 505 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: I mean he skips wheel routes to running backs. I 506 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: mean there's just fundamental layups in the passing game he 507 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: can't complete against NFL players. Like we all watched it 508 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: last year. It was crazy to watch because he was 509 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: a guy that Chris Sims a couple of years ago 510 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: is like, this guy could be Aaron Rodgers and when 511 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: you just watch him fling it on air or whatever, 512 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: you like, that is an elite arm great release, powerful, 513 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: like he's got it. All, and then he actually has to play, 514 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and then you're like, what the hell is this? By 515 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: middle of last season, they're like, Mike White, Mike White, 516 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: and I don't even blame him because he watched Zach Wilson. 517 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: You can't even function with the guy. So I do expect. 518 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that, I do think it's gonna work 519 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: out for Arizona. In the sense of trading him right 520 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: now for absolutely nothing doesn't make that much sense because 521 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: once you sign a contract of that magnitude, as we're 522 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 1: seeing with Aaron Rodgers, it impacts your cap in the 523 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: short term, and there's a chance that maybe that's the 524 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: best you can do and he comes back he's healthy. 525 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Use those two picks. You draft Marvin Harrison, you draft 526 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: the offensive tackle from Penn State, and you surround him 527 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: with some more talent, and you take your chances for 528 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Now, I never would assigned 529 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: him to the contract in the first place, but either way, 530 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, because there is fifty to fifty seems high, 531 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: but I would say there's a twenty five to thirty 532 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: percent chance this team drafts number one overall. Most people, 533 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: like universally agree that this is the worst roster right 534 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: now in the NFL, like this is not like debating, 535 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: like this is the worst roster in the NFL. A 536 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that last year with the Giants. 537 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: The difference is we all knew Brian da Ball. What 538 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: this guy's done in Buffalo was incredible. I think most 539 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: of us go, you know, Jonathan Bannon. I've had people 540 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: tell me that we're around Jonathan Bannon. You know, I 541 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: actually think he's better suited to be a head coach 542 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: than he is a coordinator. He's a much better leader 543 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: than he is like some ski So I was like, 544 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: whenever you hear that, you go, well, we'll see, you know, 545 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: we'll see. It's a little cheesy for me, but listen, 546 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: I thought Sean mcvagh I remember when he was hired. 547 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: I was like, no one my age is gonna come 548 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: into the league and just kick ass and take names 549 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: at thirty one years old, he did, you know? He 550 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 1: was been awesome. I bet against that one. So I've 551 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: been wrong before, but I would say Jonathan Gannon, I 552 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: would short that stock. And a large part of that 553 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: is just the talent around it, the organization a lot 554 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: of turmoil. It's getting sued by former employees people coming 555 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: after his owner. Could just be a weird place quarterbacks injured. 556 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: But we'll see how that all shakes out. Okay, let's 557 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: dive into the middle Cooff mailbag at John Middlecoff is 558 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those d ms D. I recently 559 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: saw Kevin Durant got a lifetime Nike deal and couldn't 560 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: figure out how that would be structured. How do you 561 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: think lifetime endorsement deals work? Love the pod, keep up 562 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: the good work. That's a hell of a question, man, 563 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know obviously, you know Michael Jordan 564 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: owns the Jordan brand or as equity in it. But 565 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: like I saw Charles Barkley, it was like a it 566 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: was a YouTube short and it was a clip from 567 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: an interview he gave talking about how Michael Jordan has 568 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: made him so much money in his life because like 569 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: in the peak of Charles's powers, right in the mid nineties, 570 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: as a player, Nike was paying he was on like 571 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: the second highest paid athlete, like a couple million bucks. 572 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: And Michael said, do you need You're getting paid a 573 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: lot from the Phoenix Suns. You don't need all that 574 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: cash from Nike every year. Do this. Say, if they're 575 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: paying you a three million, take one million and have 576 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: them give the other two million dollars in stock options 577 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: and charles. Like smartest thing I ever did. And I'm 578 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: still on Nike's payroll. So like Lebron has a lifetime deal, 579 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: Steph has a lifetime deal with under you know Tiger 580 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: has a lifetime deal with Nike. I just think you're 581 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: just on the payroll for a long time now in 582 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: the peak of your playing powers, right like Kevin right 583 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: now or Lebron when he's playing. Clearly they don't pay 584 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: you the same amount when you're done, right, But I don't. 585 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: That's the question. I don't have the answer to you. 586 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: Just in life, you just get what you negotiate. So 587 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: maybe five million dollars a year, factor in inflation, I 588 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: don't know. I honestly don't. Some socks. It's a hell 589 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: of a question, very interesting. Never really thought about it, 590 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I think it's funny how 591 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: your new picture of you with a backwards hat on 592 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: and Colin always talks about how he doesn't want his 593 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: franchise with the hat backwards guy made me laugh. Here's 594 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 1: the one thing I will say is us bald people, 595 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: we play by different rules. So I would say historically, 596 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: my father, who passed away several years ago, old school 597 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: guy hated the hat backwards look as well. I actually 598 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: don't think it applies when you don't have hair. You know, 599 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: my dad, who was also bald when I was younger, 600 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: could have You know, in that eighties nineties you could 601 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: have the cold de sac look. You could not have 602 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: a cold de sac now and have any human being 603 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: take you seriously if you're under forty five years old, 604 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you just can't. So we shave our heads well. 605 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: In the picture that's used now on my profile, it 606 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: was at a forty nine er game, so it's not 607 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: like I even gave it to the volume. They ripped 608 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: it off. I probably like an Instagram photo, but I 609 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: hadn't shaved my head for a couple of days, and 610 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I had forgotten a razor, and we 611 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: were leaving early in the morning, had been up late, 612 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't have time to shave my head. Super hungover, 613 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: I was taking like a two minute shower when I 614 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: shaved my head. My shower last ten minutes because you 615 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: gotta shave it in the shower, so I wasn't gonna 616 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: rock a cold de sac to the forty nine or 617 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: RAMS game, which we'll go down as one of the 618 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: cool games I've ever seen live. It was a crazy 619 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 1: Week eighteen game a couple of years ago. But like, 620 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think we played by the same rules 621 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: as people with hair, Like I'm sorry, we don't. I 622 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: don't disagree with a sediment about backwards guy, but I 623 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: think I play by different rules not having hair. But 624 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: it is funny. I know, I know the game has 625 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: swung on offense, with the rules especially favoring the quarterbacks. 626 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: The game has evolved a ton recently. Where do you 627 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: think it goes for the next five years? For example, 628 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: does defense ever make a return, Does the coaching staff 629 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: become more important, or does another position become as important 630 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: as the quarterback? Well, as we talked about earlier, the 631 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: rules are clearly not changing and safety rules are not 632 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: going to lean defense, So I don't see how defense 633 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: could really make a comeback when hitting has kind of 634 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: just slowly been legislated out of the game in terms 635 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 1: of the violent hits, cause that's really when when you 636 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: had the best, fastest most violent players on defense. You 637 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: couldn't play against you know, the great defenses because they 638 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: would destroy you. Well, that's never gonna factor in anymore, 639 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: right those even that Seattle team of whatever, six, eight, 640 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: nine years ago, now it's not coming back. I just 641 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: think we're kind of gonna be in this this version 642 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: of football for a while, right, Like I don't think 643 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: the game of basketball is ever going to trend back 644 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: to every team's gonna have a great center, noe. The 645 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: three point shoot shot is too valuable to the one 646 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent more than the two. So you're 647 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: gonna continue to take more three stretch out the you know, 648 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: the game, and get more three point shooters. Well, I 649 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna change in football. I was thinking 650 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: about this the other day, Like Troy Aikman. When Troyigman 651 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: transferred from Oklahoma to UCLA when he was in college, 652 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: it was because Oklahoma was gonna start running the triple 653 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: option offense. Obviously, Troy Aikman, it's not a triple option 654 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: offensive quarterback or quarterback. Right. Think how often you know 655 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: in the seventies, eighties, even into the nineties, coordinators would 656 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: run a run heavy option level in college and definitely 657 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: in high school. Well, we talked about this last week. 658 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: It just bleeds uphill. Most industries kind of bleed downhill. Right. 659 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: In football, what happens at the lower levels comes up 660 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: because that's where your talent's coming from. You could argue 661 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: it's like that in society, right. I remember, like my 662 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: dad's generation, they don't all email, and a lot of 663 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: them had a lot of success without really using the computer. 664 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: But you can't be You could be seventy five years 665 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: old and not really email and run a company and 666 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: have people do it for you. You can't be fifty 667 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: and not know how to operate the internet. You probably 668 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: can't be twenty five years old and not be very 669 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: very versed on the computer. And I'm not talking about 670 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: just typing. I'm talking like, do you know what you know? AI? 671 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: Can you mess with chat? GPT? Can you Whatever your 672 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: specific industry is, you better be locked and loaded technologically, right, 673 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: Just like in football, if you're coming up to the 674 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: to the NFL, you gotta be the passing game is, 675 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: whether you're a coach or whether you're a player, is 676 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: gonna be key. And I just don't see that changing 677 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: anytime soon. Look, how it's changed the running back. We 678 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: value running backs infinitely more than we did a decade ago. 679 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: That play in the passing game. Hell, when I got 680 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: to the NFL in twenty ten, if you couldn't play 681 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: in the passing game, whatever, we had a change of paceback. 682 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: Is there a good running back in the league that's 683 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: not a major factor in the past game? Why was 684 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: b Jon Robinson thought so highly of he was good 685 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: in the pass game? Why was Gibbs the kid from 686 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: Alabama that Detroit Lions. You see that video they tweeted 687 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: out of them going berserk when they drafted him. I 688 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: mean they think the guy's like Marshall Folk, because that's 689 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: the Some of the comps I've heard are like, you know, 690 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: he's got a little Christian McCaffrey Alvin Kamara into it. 691 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: If he didn't have that, and we'll just you know, 692 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is the best between the tackle runner I've 693 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: seen live in my life. In his peak of his powers, 694 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: he was incredible, not creating the passing game, won't pass block, 695 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: he could get by. He's like he'd even be an 696 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: outlier today, But I don't think he'd be as valuable 697 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: as he was fifteen years ago, because playing in the 698 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: passing game is a must. So I guess that's a 699 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: long way of saying I don't know. I mean I 700 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: would bet against there being dramatic changes of just kind 701 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: of where we are and where we're headed is kind 702 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: of you know what's going to continue. As a Packer fan, 703 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy the Rogers era is over, and I'm hopeful 704 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: for the Love era. I think the Packers will look 705 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot more like the forty nine ers. Run the ball, 706 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: play defense instead of air it out because we have 707 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, because we no longer have Aaron Rodgers. Also, 708 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: I think this bodes well for us in the playoffs, 709 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: because running the ball and playing defense wins in Lambeau 710 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: wins zero degrees in snowy, hence our playoff failures. I've 711 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: always said that the Packers were always built to dominate 712 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: in a dome, right Like what has been a huge 713 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: point of difference last year for the Chiefs they had Pachaco. 714 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: Their defense has been a lot better the last three 715 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: or four years. It's hard to win outside by just 716 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: throwing bombs, it really is. You got to play defense, 717 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: and it's just key. Anyway. I have the argument with 718 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: my friends, and I'm hoping you can back me up. 719 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: In my mind, Rogers is the most talented quarterback ever. 720 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: He was doing Mahomes level stuff that ESPN drools over 721 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: with Mahomes was in middle school. Now everyone says, what 722 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: about Brady Montana and Mahomes. There is a difference in 723 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,320 Speaker 1: the most talented and most accomplished, and it pitches me off. 724 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the goat of quarterback play. Tom Brady 725 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 1: is and will always be the most accomplished. I think 726 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: it's a tough discussion to have, right because, for example, 727 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is never gonna sniff Tom Brady's accomplishments. He's 728 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: only been to the one Super Bowl. Tom's been to 729 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: whatever ten, right, because he lost how many loser with 730 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: the Patriots? He lost three with the Patriots and he 731 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: won the one with Tampa. Yeah, so he's been to 732 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: ten Super Bowls. There's just no but Tom Brady. Tom Brady. 733 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: One time I heard him, I don't know if it 734 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: was that Monday night calling he does or it was 735 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: a podcast radio interview. I can't exactly remember where I 736 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: heard him say this, but it was It was fascinating 737 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: because he's like the unique part about the sport of football. 738 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: He's like, I couldn't start at any other position for 739 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 1: a good high school team, right, Like I couldn't play 740 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: dB or linebacker. I'm not fast enough. I couldn't play 741 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver or tight end for them. Obviously, I'm not 742 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: big enough to play offensive line. Like the only thing 743 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: I can do at the high school level, let alone 744 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: the pro level, is play quarterback. Now, one thing I 745 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: would say Tom, this is hard because Aaron's just his 746 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: physical gifts. He's a much better athlete. He can just 747 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: he's got a better arm than Tom, even though Tom 748 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: has a really good arm. He's a more quote unquote 749 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: talented player. But is like, playing your best football in 750 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: the biggest moments when your team needs it the most. 751 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: Is that a talent? Right? I think it kind of? 752 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: Is I do? Right? Like, obviously Tiger Woods is more 753 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: physically gifted than most people he played throughout his prime, 754 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: But like he made every big putt when he had to. 755 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: Is that a talent? Right? Like he could just contain 756 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: himself and be super focused and keep his emotions under control. 757 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: And as a quarterback you kind of have to do 758 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: that too, And sometimes Aaron's had some incredible moments, but 759 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: I'd say he's also blown at in some big spots, right, 760 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking. It's one thing to blow in 761 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, it's another thing to blow in the 762 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. That'd be the knock on Peyton. 763 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: A lot of times it's like, God, he just kind 764 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: of blew it, And that to me separates Tom. But yeah, 765 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: if we were just like running around Combs and throwing 766 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: on the run, Tom can't hold his jock. And like 767 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: you said, Mahomes, Mahomes like him and Mahomes are very 768 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: very similar players. But for example, is if you gave 769 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in his prime to the Kansasity Chiefs the 770 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: last eight nine years with Andy Reid, do they win 771 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: a couple of Super Bowls? Maybe? Because that's the other 772 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: thing with football that makes it more unique than these 773 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: other sports. If I give you Steph Curry, if I 774 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: give you Lebron James, if I give you Shack or 775 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, Yeah, if you get Phil Jackson or Eric 776 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: Spoulster or Steve Kerr, you're locked to win. But I 777 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 1: think I can kind of give you an average coach 778 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: and you've got a pretty good chance to win a championship. 779 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: If I give you Aaron Rodgers, you were not guarantee 780 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl. Dan Marino is widely considered 781 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: by everyone that played him and everyone that was much 782 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: older than me that watched his career as like one 783 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: of the best players that has ever played the game. 784 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: It's like not arguable or debatable. Everyone into an era 785 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: in his era, which has some all time great players 786 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: and obviously some of the greatest quarterbacks ever, including this 787 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: younger generation. Like if you ask like Brady Peyton and 788 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: Tom they hold Marino to such highest team got to 789 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: one Super Bowl and lost. Now, part of that is 790 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 1: like the team around him. He did have Don Shula, 791 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,240 Speaker 1: but it was kind of an older version of Don Shula. 792 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: I guess he got there in eighty four, but not Don. 793 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: But Dan coach matters a lot. You know, Belichick kind 794 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: of knows what he's doing. Mahomes benefits from having you know, 795 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: the big guy with a mustache that matters, right. Joe 796 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: Montana really benefited from having Bill Walsh, Lawrence Taylor, all 797 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 1: time great player helped when he had Belichick and Parcels 798 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: coaching his ass. So it's complicated. I mean his two 799 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: coaches are Mike mc arthy and Lafleur, who McCarthy's solid coach. 800 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's gone to Dallas and they've been really good. 801 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: Lafleur I think's pretty solid too. Any one of those 802 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: guys gonna be viewed as like a top three or 803 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: four coach in the league. I don't know, so it's 804 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: it's a tough debate. I probably gave you the run 805 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: around there. He's definitely one of the most talented core 806 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the most talented quarterback ever. 807 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: I want you to YouTube like nineteen eighty six John Elway. 808 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: That's put that talent. He's bigger than a Rogers, every 809 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: bit the arm and every bit the athlete. And Elway 810 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: was going to Super Bowls. He was losing them, but 811 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: he was going. So I put Elway up there. I 812 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: put I might say Elway's the most talented quarterback ever. 813 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: You know you could Josh Allen is pretty big physical freak. Like, 814 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: is Josh Allen more physically talented than Mahomes. That's what 815 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: makes this whole argument kind of hard. I if you 816 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 1: want to just say he's one of the most talented 817 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: guys of all time top I'd give him top three. 818 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: Question about the new avatar. Colin made any comments about 819 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: the backward hat, keep up the great content. People were 820 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: fascinated with the backward hat. I got a DM and 821 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: I think I'll talk about this on the Golf podcast tomorrow. 822 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: Like Colin said, he would never hire anybody that's addicted 823 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: to golf. You clearly spend a lot of time with golf. 824 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. I have monetized my hobbies, 825 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,319 Speaker 1: and obviously Colin in this operation benefits from that. That's 826 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: why I started a golf podcast, why I were selling hats. 827 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: I didn't get into the golf business just because I 828 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: love golf, which I do, but I also know it's 829 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: a very financially viable market. The household income of people 830 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: that consume golf is dramatically higher than every sport. I 831 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: didn't just do it randomly. Now I'm lucky. I do 832 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,360 Speaker 1: like it, and you could call me a golf addict, 833 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: but it's not just a pastime. You know, the two 834 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: things I spend the most time doing thinking and you 835 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: know I would say watching would be football and golf. 836 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: Turn them into a business. I'm not smart. Enough to 837 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: do random other things. So what I do I have 838 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: to find a way to make money off of was 839 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 1: I can't survive. You know. You couldn't put me at 840 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 1: Wells Fargo and they'd say, figure it out. I don't 841 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: even know where to start, you know, own a restaurant. Shit, 842 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: I just like like chicken or rice, cheeseburgers. I don't 843 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: know how do we make money. I know how to 844 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: operate around football and golf. So it's my life advice 845 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: to everybody. Turn passions into in hobbies into your job. 846 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: Find a way. I've been lucky enough too. But my 847 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: backwards hat and I'll say it over again, bald people, 848 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: we played by different rules. I'm sorry. If you got 849 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: a head of hair, like you know, put a little 850 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: jail in it. You look fine. If I haven't shaved 851 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: my head in a couple of days and I don't 852 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: have time for a long shower, I'm throwing on a 853 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: hat and sometimes the snapbacks they look pretty good backwards. 854 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: The situation of Djokich and the Sun's owner match Ishbia 855 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: is similar to the situation with what happened to Kyle 856 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: Lowry and the Golden State Warriors minority owner in twenty nineteen, 857 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors owner lost his shares of the 858 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,399 Speaker 1: team and was suspended from going to games. Shouldn't mat 859 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: Ishbia get some sort of suspension or penalty, thoughts, I'd 860 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: have to YouTube the incident with Lowry. I remember the 861 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: guy with the Warriors it being a little bit more aggressive, 862 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: if memory serves me correct Now, I do believe that 863 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: like Ishbia should be fined. I'm sorry you don't get 864 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: to touch the player. And I love, and I repeat, 865 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:45,919 Speaker 1: I love how Denver's coach, Michael Malone and Jokic keep 866 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: referring to him as some fan. Obviously he's a very 867 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: rich fan. I heard him model Bill Simmons. I thought 868 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: he was a very interesting guy, and someone told me 869 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: because I just assumed self made guy, mortgage guy. Now 870 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: he actually replaced his father. I'm saying that he's not 871 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: an impressive guy, but like you know, he inherited his money. 872 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's not like he just created the company. 873 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 1: It is is when your dad, when you replaced your 874 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: dad as the CEO. I do view you a little differently, 875 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: like Mark Cuban when he bought in the league all 876 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: of his cash. Steve Balmer, like these guys are self made. 877 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I listen there are a lot 878 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: of NFL owners that aren't self made too, But it's 879 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of looks like a rich kid in that moment, like, bro, 880 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: give up the fucking ball. It's just I thought it 881 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: was kind of a clown if you would have told me. 882 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy is one of the how good 883 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,839 Speaker 1: if you're watching that Denver Sun series, nicoley Jokic, I've 884 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: never seen anything like him. Listen a lot of friends 885 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: that are Philly fans. I don't even think it's close. 886 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: If I ran an NBA team and I got to 887 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: pick between the embid and the dude from Denver, I 888 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't even hesitate. If I had a gentleman, I wouldn't 889 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: even have a meeting. To me, Joki is a different 890 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: tier than Embaid When he always plays too, he's just better, 891 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: always great on defense. He's always hurt, so is he 892 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,320 Speaker 1: that great on defense? No one cares about the regular 893 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: season either, Like I watched this guy in the playoffs' 894 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: scoring fifty points pretty easily. My NBA rant. People always 895 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: think I'm like Middlecoff, you hate the NBA. Yeah, I 896 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: mean no, I just hate when you don't play in games. 897 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: I just like as a consumer when I turn it on, 898 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 1: like I know my players to playing games, right. I 899 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: actually looked up because I saw Gary Payton. His kid 900 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: plays for the Warriors, Gary Payton the Second, and he 901 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: was at one of the Warriors games earlier this series. 902 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: He might he's probably going to them all, but he 903 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: was at Chase Center and he like talked to Lebron 904 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: walking off, and I just googled Gary Payton's stats. I 905 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: was like, how many points of the average ruti's career 906 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: from like nineteen ninety to basically the late nineties, Gary 907 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: Payton never missed a game. And I would say Gary 908 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: Payton was consistently viewed as a top ten point player 909 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and he had some years where he 910 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: was probably top six or seven player in the NBA. Okay, 911 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: I never missed a game. That's the generation a guy 912 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 1: I grew up on. So yeah, my expectations like, well, 913 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: you know the guys need rest, and you know this 914 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: is for the health, and oh kay, that's great. But 915 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 1: if you're only playing sixty games and you got eighty 916 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: two of them, I can't take your sport that seriously, 917 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: and neither can the rest of the consumers. Why the 918 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: ratings are in the tank. Why the Kings and Warriors rating, 919 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, average eleven million people because you turn on 920 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: everyone's playing and people try hard. You know, the NBA 921 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: the regular season for six months. Half the teams never 922 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,919 Speaker 1: even try half the league's tanking. The good teams they 923 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: try a quarter of the games. I'm not even trying 924 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: to be nostalgic about my youth, but when I see 925 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: Gary Payton play every fucking game, and I grew up, 926 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, going to Oracle Arena when the Kings were terrible, 927 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 1: and I remember Michael Jordan Allen Iverson those players played 928 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 1: against the Kings team that was god awful in twenty 929 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: twenty three. They would not play, they would rest, and 930 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: they would basically be telling you, hey, if you live 931 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: in Sacramento, we don't give a shit about you. That's 932 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: what you do. And the consumer is the guy paying 933 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: for everything. The fan is the reason there's all this money. 934 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: Why is the NFL never made more money because they 935 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: have more fans than every other league. Sorry for the tangent, 936 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,319 Speaker 1: big time Seattle Seahawks fan here. We've lost a few 937 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: impact guys with Al Woods and Ryan Neil. With players 938 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: like Jamal Adams coming back, is he though? I mean, 939 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,360 Speaker 1: I know technically he's supposed to come back, but it 940 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: feels like Jamal Adams sure gets hurt a lot since 941 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: he's doing your team and coming back good looking as 942 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: of now, rookie, think they'll improve even more from last year. Also, 943 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: a hugely underrated signing for the Hawks that not many 944 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: are talking about is signing Bobby Wagner. That's gonna be 945 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: a big time improvement on our defense, especially if what 946 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: Pete said about going back to his old defensive schemes 947 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts. I can't hold Jamal Adams, you know. To me, 948 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,240 Speaker 1: he's basically a linebacker now. I also think Bobby Wagner 949 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: incredible guy. As people have talked shit before when I 950 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: said he wasn't a Hall of Famer, He's gonna be 951 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer first ballot. We can argue that, 952 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: but he's going to the Hall of Fame. The Hall 953 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: of Fame days are kind of over. But I hear 954 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: you for leadership, but I thought your team last year 955 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: was like pretty high level group. To me, I'm with you. 956 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: Your first round rookie, the dude, they drafted fifth overall Witherspoon, 957 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: stud in Jigba immediate plug and play starter with DK Lockett. 958 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. You had the UCLA running back. I would say, 959 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick you as a wildcard team. Now, to me, 960 00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: the question is like, does Gino have back to back 961 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 1: thirty touchdown seasons? Is Gino gonna throw sixty plus touchdowns 962 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: in two years? Clearly he's an impressive guy. I'm very 963 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,480 Speaker 1: impressive with Gino. I'm a fan of Geno Smith. Now 964 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't follow his career that closely, but obviously 965 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,840 Speaker 1: last year, you know, falling just they were one of 966 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: the best stories in the NFL. He was being interviewed 967 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: a lot. He's an impressive guy. He's an easy guy 968 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: to root for. I see why Seattle likes him a lot. 969 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 1: But is he was last year an outlier or has 970 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: he just turned his career and he's just going to 971 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: be really good, Because if he does, then yeah, hell, 972 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: you guys can win eleven games that division. Besides Seattle 973 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: in the Niners, I mean, the Rams could suck and 974 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: we know Arizona's bad. I mean the Rams could be 975 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: a five win team. They could have serious problems. They're 976 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: an Aaron Donald ankle spraying away from being screwed. Before 977 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: Stafford started missing games last year, Remember he was throwing 978 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,720 Speaker 1: it all over the yard. Do with the other team. 979 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup got hurt last year and they were unwatchable. 980 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: They're an injury too away from being completely screwed. So 981 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 1: the only thing was Seattle the forty nine ers. You 982 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 1: know I have beat you twice, but who cares? I mean, 983 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 1: even if if the Niners win the division and you 984 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: win ten or eleven games, you might be the fifth seed. Well, 985 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: probably not. I would imagine the Cowboys probably would. But 986 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,360 Speaker 1: maybe you could compete to be as good as the Cowboys. 987 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120 Speaker 1: If Jamal Adams is healthy and he can just function 988 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: in kind of in that linebacker role, and the rookie 989 00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: adds to the secondary to go along with the rookie 990 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: corner last year who was good. Your pass rush just 991 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: improves with some younger guys, your offense should be pretty dynamic. 992 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean that your two young tackles are good. If 993 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: if if Injigba is healthy to go with DK, maybe 994 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: Gino has another big year, Detroit winning the North. Don't 995 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: see it. I'm obviously a biased Vikings fan, but GoF 996 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: is a career sixty four percent passer. I'd argue last 997 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: year was the outlier. But with our new defensive coordinator, 998 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: Green Bay with love in Chicago, well Chicago, yep, okay, 999 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: Detroit goes nine to eight, ten and seven, just like 1000 00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: everyone else in the North and seven. He might win 1001 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: the North. Right, how many games did you guys win 1002 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 1: last year? Thirteen? I think you went thirteen to five. 1003 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it was twelve and would be thirteen and five. 1004 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: That'd be eighteen games, would be thirteen to four regardless, 1005 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,279 Speaker 1: thirteen twelve wins, like, yeah, you could win ten games. 1006 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: They can win ten games. You could win nine games. 1007 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: As someone hit me with the DMS be floor as 1008 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: is your defensive coordinator. But part of being a good 1009 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: defense is the talent there. That's my question. Who's who 1010 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: are your difference makers? Who's your pass rushers? Kendrick is gone. 1011 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 1: I don't know when you guys are really good on 1012 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 1: defense with Zimmer who let's face it, he's a curmudgeon, 1013 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: big curmudgeon. He's pretty good defensive coordinator and in your 1014 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: heyday with you guys had a ton of talents. I 1015 00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: don't see the talents the same. You can argue the 1016 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You guys won thirteen games, so you know, 1017 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: three game regression factoring in all the close games you won. 1018 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: That's part of football. I mean, let's be real. You 1019 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: guys won one of the greatest pulled that game out 1020 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: of who knows what crevice in your body game of 1021 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 1: all time last year against the Bills. I mean that 1022 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,560 Speaker 1: that is one of the Did you beat the Colts too? 1023 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: Weren't you down to the Colts by like forty points 1024 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,919 Speaker 1: in the first quarter? Was it twenty seven or nothing 1025 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter. You guys won 1026 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 1: that game as well? Pretty sure? Yeah you did. So, 1027 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: Like there's two wins of your thirteen that even you'd 1028 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: have to acknowledge are some of the Yeah, you won 1029 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: that game thirty nine thirty six. That's got to be 1030 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: one of the craziest come I think it was. I 1031 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: think it's statistically right, the biggest, one of the biggest 1032 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: comebacks in NFL history. What was the other game I 1033 00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: was saying, the Bills game? Yeah, you won that thirty 1034 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 1: three to thirty. What was the score at halftime? That 1035 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: was twenty four to ten? And it was. It was 1036 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven, it was twenty seven to ten at one 1037 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: point time, Hell of a comeback. Colts comeback was better. 1038 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: But one thing that's weird with you guys is I 1039 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: saw today a headline the Cousins was like, love to 1040 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,359 Speaker 1: retire a Viking. The article was like, yeah, I don't 1041 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 1: know if the Vikings see that that way. It's kind 1042 00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,880 Speaker 1: of in a weird spot because cousins. It's not cousins 1043 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: willing to play for twenty million. You know, yeah, I 1044 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: want to retire Viking, though, keep paying me thirty eight 1045 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: forty million dollars a year, Like do you really want 1046 00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: to pay forty million dollars a year? I don't know. 1047 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting so many questions on this backwards hat anyway, 1048 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 1: I see you have your hat on backwards. On the 1049 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: new podcast, he used to bag on Romo constantly for 1050 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: wearing his hat backwards. Again. One thing I would say 1051 00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: about Tony Romo, great hair, So you wear your hat backwards? 1052 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,799 Speaker 1: Guy shows laziness. Just put a little gel me like 1053 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: I might have time. I have to shower fast. You 1054 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: guys are able to shower fast with hair, right, I 1055 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: have to shave my head in the shower. It takes 1056 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: time and it's more difficult, so I put on a 1057 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 1: backwards hat. We do not play by the same rules 1058 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 1: as people with hair. I believe that to my core. 1059 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm not even being joking around. I'm not being sarcastic. 1060 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,600 Speaker 1: We are not judged the same. Think about this. When 1061 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: I go play golf, or I go for a bike 1062 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: ride or whatever, and the sun is out, I cannot wear, 1063 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: you know, a mesh hat, a trucker hat, because I'll 1064 00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: get burned half my head. I have to cover the 1065 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: complete head. You, as hair people, do not have to 1066 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: worry about that. You can wear no hat, wear backwards hat, 1067 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: wear you know, holy hat, whatever, a visor. I am 1068 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: not able to wear visors. Think about that, when the 1069 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,720 Speaker 1: sun's out, my head will get burned. So this notion 1070 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,439 Speaker 1: that backwards hat guy. That is about quarterbacks with hair. 1071 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: Has there been a bald quarterback since the hassleback? We 1072 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 1: would not judge Matt Hasselback for warning backwards hat why 1073 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: he does not have hair he has to cover his 1074 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: head from the sun. Want him to get skin cancer? 1075 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,240 Speaker 1: Of course not. Tony Romo. Put a little fucking gel 1076 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: in your hair. What do you know? One thing i'd 1077 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: judge Tony Romo about. Why is he never shave. He's 1078 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 1: called in games with Jim Nance and he's always got 1079 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: He doesn't know it's one thing to have a beard 1080 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: or shave. He's always just got this stubble going like 1081 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 1: he's like four days on a bender. That's how I 1082 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: judge Tony Romo. But the hat stuff I used to 1083 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: get in this argument with my dad a lot. I'm sorry, Dad, 1084 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: I look pretty good. The backwards hat I enjoy it. 1085 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: And now that I enough hair, I just think we 1086 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 1: played by different rules. I'm fascinated that everyone is fascinated 1087 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,440 Speaker 1: by that. They're fascinated by that. And I thought Colin 1088 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: hated golfers. He did, so I started podcast. We are 1089 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: made money got high upside. You know, money flows, you 1090 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: know we can we can look past our previous takes. Audios, 1091 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: everybody have a good week. Uh shout out to Holst 1092 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,680 Speaker 1: and James, my producers doing big things behind the scenes, 1093 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,960 Speaker 1: and you the people for consuming this podcast. See ya. 1094 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 1: The volume