1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. The Iranians shoot down 2 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: a US drone. President Trump says it was a big mistake. 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Are we heading toward a military conflict of some kind 4 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: with the Mullahs in Tehran? We'll get into that whilst 5 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: everything else going on today on the buck Sexton Show. 6 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: This is the bus Sexton Show, where the mission or 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: Magno mistake, American. You're a great American. Again, the buck 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. Now, Lauran made 10 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: a big mistake. This drone was in international waters. Clearly, 11 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: we have it all documented. It's documented scientifically, not just words. 12 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: And they made a very bad mistake. Okay, you'll find out. 13 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: You'll find out. You'll find out, obviously, obviously you know 14 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to be talking too much about it. 15 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna find out. They made a very big mistake, 16 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: a very big mistake, the President says about Uranians. Welcome 17 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: to the buck sex and show everybody. Great to have 18 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: you here. Privilege and the pleasures always. So here's what 19 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: we've got going on. Possibility of a millet, not just 20 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: a military showdown, but real military action here. I can 21 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: tell you that some in the news business because they 22 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: tend to reach out ahead of time and want to 23 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: know availability for folks like me who have a national 24 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: security background to speak to these issues. There's at least 25 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: a a preparation for a getting ready for the possibility 26 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: of US strikes. Don't know when, don't know where, don't 27 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: know if they'll happen at all, but there are whisperers 28 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: of it right now in DC. We may fire a 29 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: whole bunch of missiles or who knows what and who 30 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: knows where, But that the Iranians need to be taught 31 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: a lesson here that they're lashing out against the Trump 32 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: administration in response to yes to pull out from the 33 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Iran nuclear Deal, but also the crippling sanctions Irani and 34 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: economies in really rough shape right now, that we need 35 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: to send the Iranians a message that this will not 36 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: be tolerated. This is not going to not going to fly. 37 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Pardon the expression, because they shot a drone out of 38 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: the sky. There's no human casualty in this. But the 39 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: drone they shot out of the sky was a hundred 40 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: million dollar p of equipment flying in international airspace. Shot 41 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: down by a sophisticated surface to air missile system. This 42 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: was the drone was an RQ for a Global Hawk, 43 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: which gives intelligence, real time surveillance, reconnaissance, and intelligence gathering capability. Clearly, 44 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: the US wants to keep an eye on what's going 45 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: on in the Strait of Hormus, and so that's why 46 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: we had this one hundred and thirty million dollar playing 47 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: with a wingspan of about one hundred and thirty feet, 48 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: flying around trying to keep an eye on things. The 49 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Iranian shot it out of the sky. This is what 50 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: you would call in the history textbooks an international incident, 51 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: and these are the types of incidents that can lead 52 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: to much more severe, much more serious conflicts. Depends on 53 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: how one side chooses to escalate and how the other 54 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: side retaliates. Here's just my baseline on all of this. 55 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: I think that a war with Iran would be a 56 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: terrible idea. I think that we should have learned at 57 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: this point the lessons of a Rock and Afghanistan. It 58 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: is not only is it not our job to try 59 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: and overthrow the government in Iran and rebuild that country 60 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: and help them bring about a multi confession, well just 61 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: a multi ethnic if not multi confessional democracy. That's not 62 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: our mandate, that's not our job. And not only should 63 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: we not try it, but I would offer to you 64 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: that we would be foolish to try it, given what 65 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: we already know about our efforts in that part of 66 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the world. I would really like to have a whole 67 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: generation pass where we don't have a real war going 68 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: on in the Middle East that we are fighting. Wouldn't 69 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: that be nice? We have since I was in college, 70 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and I'm now getting to be old enough that I 71 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: can't I can't even find all the gray hairs my beard. 72 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: We have been at war in the Middle East in 73 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: some capacity now, stretching back for almost twenty years. I 74 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: really don't think we should be adding another war on 75 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: our play now. This is where a lot of people 76 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: that are very hawkish on the issue of Iran would 77 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: come forward and say, but we're not saying that it 78 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: would be a war. We're just saying, if to do something, 79 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: you have to send a message, all right. I can 80 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: understand that we did have the Trump administration fire a 81 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: whole bunch of missiles into Syria after children had been 82 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: gassed there. So the president United States did that, and 83 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: we're not at war with the Assad regime as a result, 84 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: even though that is certainly an active war, but they 85 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: did not declare war on us. We're not at war 86 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: with the Assad regime. How would the Iranians react, though 87 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: nobody really particularly knows. I'm not even sure in some 88 00:05:55,240 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: ways the Iranians know. But Trump is going back and 89 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: forth in public on this a bit. He's saying that, well, Wan, 90 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: he's making sure it is known that there will be 91 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: action taken against the irudience that this happens again, or 92 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: perhaps he'll already be reaction to this one incident. As 93 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: it is, he has said that this was a He 94 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: keeps saying it's a mistake, it's a mistake. Well, we'll 95 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: see what exactly he means by that. Play eleven. I 96 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: have a feeling I may be wrong, and I may 97 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: be right, but I'm right a lot. I have a 98 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: feeling that it was a mistake made by somebody that 99 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been doing what they did. I think they 100 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: made a mistake, and I'm not just talking to the 101 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: country made a mistake. I think that somebody under the 102 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: command of that country made a big hip. Let's just 103 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: see what happens. She just let's see what happens. It's 104 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: all going to work out. I find it hard to 105 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: believe it was intentional, if you want to know the truth. 106 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: I think that it could have been somebody who was 107 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: loose and stupid that that it will be able to 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: we put back and you'll understand exactly what happened. But 109 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: it was a very foolish move, that I can tell you. 110 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: So the President saying here that he finds it hard 111 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: to believe it was intentional, says it was a very 112 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: foolish move. Well, I think what he's saying is that 113 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't believe that this order was necessarily given from 114 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: the very top of the Iranian government, and I think 115 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: that they's probably wrong on that. I think the Iranians 116 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: this is exactly this is exactly what you would expect 117 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: as an escu esculatory measure against us from the Iranians. 118 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: It doesn't no casualties because I think they realize if 119 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: they kill a bunch of American sailors or airman airman, 120 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: or or anybody for that matter, there's a very real 121 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: chance that the US response would be severe, that we 122 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: would come back and hit them in ways that would 123 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: be way worse than anything they've experienced up to this point. 124 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a measured response to the Iranians, 125 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: you have to keep in mind that it's likely the 126 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: Iranians themselves we're taking a measured response here. There are 127 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: other things that they could do, the other ways that 128 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: they could hit us. But then there's this. It's in 129 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: the area you're hearing about it that there are people 130 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: you have to remember, who are very senior in the 131 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: national security complex in this country. There are people who 132 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: have been hoping to get to a new Iranian regime somehow. 133 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: They've been hoping to push us towards, push the Iranians 134 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: toward that for the better part now of thirty or 135 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: forty years. And some of those who have been working 136 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: the issue at least for a few decades are still 137 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: in Capitol Hill, are still in the White House, in 138 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: the National Security apparatus. They really want that to happen. 139 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: And Trump is being asked about this a little bit. 140 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: Trump is being asked questions like, are you on board 141 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: with all of your advisors? Is there anybody who's pushing 142 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: you in directions that you're uncomfortable with? In terms of 143 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: your Iran response, and here's the presence that played twelve. Yeah, 144 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: that has of your administration. Who are I find to 145 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: push you into No, not at all, not at all. 146 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: In fact, in many cases it's the opposite. But I 147 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: will say, look, I said I want to get out 148 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: of these endless wars. I campaigned on that. I want 149 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: to get out. We've been in Afghanistan for nineteen years. 150 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: As you know, we've reduced very substantially in Afghanistan. We 151 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: beat the Caliphate. We took back one hundred percent of 152 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: the Caliphate when it was ninety nine percent. Justin I 153 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: said we're gonna get out, We're gonna start peeling back, 154 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: and everybody went crazy because it was ninety nine. So 155 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: I said, all right, so we'll finish it up. So 156 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: we got one hundred percent, and we're pulling that back 157 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: out of Syria. We're pulling a lot of people back. 158 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: But this is something, this is a new wrinkle, this 159 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: is a new fly in the ointment. What happened shooting 160 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: down the drone and this kind will not stand forth 161 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 1: that I can tell you. Thank you very much. I 162 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: appreciate that the president understands that part of his mandate, 163 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: part of what got him elected and it wasn't. An 164 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: insignificant way that he separated himself from the rest of 165 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: the republican field was that he was willing to say 166 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: the Iraq war was a bad idea and that we 167 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: should not be engaged in these wars for regime changed 168 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: purposes in the Middle East. I know that the the 169 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: regime change advocates, and there are many of them out there, 170 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: they will generally not say, let's land one hundred and 171 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: fifty thousand soldiers in Iran and do this whole thing 172 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: all over again that we've done before. But I also 173 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: note that there's a there is a correlation, not a causation, 174 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: but there are certainly there's a momentum to we're going 175 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: to start with some military strikes against Iran, and then 176 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: if that isn't enough, then what if we just side 177 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: that Iran has to be stopped or Iran has to 178 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: be punished severely enough that they will change their behavior, 179 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: and they don't change their behavior. How far away are 180 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: we really becoming much more heavily invested in in Iranian 181 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: regime change than we want to be? It is true, 182 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and I just because Democrats are even some very far 183 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: left to say it doesn't mean that it's necessarily wrong. 184 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: It is true that a war in Iran would be 185 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: a disaster, one for which this country has no stomach. 186 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: We just it's not our fight. Stopping the Iranians from 187 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: bad behavior by being willing to slap at them when 188 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: necessary with military precision strikes, the continued crush of sections 189 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: on their economy, freezing them out from the international community. 190 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: That all makes sense, But this is the blunder I 191 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: just don't want Trump to make. He's in such a 192 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: good position going into this twenty twenty election. There's so 193 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: much about everything that he's done up to this point. 194 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: I think he should be proud of, and that has 195 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: really shown the American people the kind of results that 196 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: would make us want to vote for him again. But 197 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: a way to throw it all in the trash been 198 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: very quickly is to find himself dragged into some war 199 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: in the Iran. Look in the early days with Obama 200 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: and Syria, I was I was writing pieces about how 201 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: we can do a little bit here, a little bit there, 202 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: but it better be very minimal, no ground troops. Syria 203 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: is not our war, and I stand behind that, and 204 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: that's the case in Iran. This is not. It's it's 205 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: our fight when they do things to us, and we 206 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: need to respond to that. But the overall narrative of 207 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: events for our relationship or lack thereof, with Iran can't 208 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: be that we really are just trying to find a 209 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: way to overthrow their government and help get something else 210 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: going there. That's just a terrible idea, and it's a 211 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: way for the president to lose the second term of 212 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: his presidency. If Trump gets dragged into a protracted conflict 213 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: with Iran, I don't know if he can win re election. 214 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: I think people are we're all so tired of it. 215 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: We're all so sick of it. We don't want to 216 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: hear it anymore. And for those of you were saying, oh, Buck, 217 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: but you don't want to be don't do Neville, chamberlain 218 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: an appeasement, everything else. Okay, Well, you know, if I'm 219 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: not saying if the Iranian start blowing civilian airliners out 220 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: of the sky, or if the IRGC starts landing in 221 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: rubber Dinghy's on Long Island trying to do sabotage operations, 222 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: that we don't do whatever we have to do. I'm 223 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: just saying, insofar as we have a choice in these matters. 224 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: In so far as this is not yet determined that 225 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: we have to go to a full scale military conflict 226 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: with Iran, we need to avoid it at almost all costs, 227 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: not at all costs, at almost all costs. My generation, 228 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: the generation above me, the generation below me, many of 229 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: us have spent way too much time already in parts 230 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: the Middle East that he didn't want to visit and 231 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: really don't want to go back to. And I certainly 232 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to. I'll tell you this, all of you 233 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: who are listening this. I know many of you who 234 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: listen serve yourselves, but I wouldn't want to be the 235 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: officer or the I wouldn't want to be the commander 236 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: in chief. That's a better way of saying it. That 237 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: told your son or your daughter, yeah, you're going to 238 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: now go and be part of the provincial reconstruction team 239 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: for Tehran, you know, because we just took over that 240 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: country again. It's just it's very unnerving that we could 241 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: even be having a discussion about that as a possibility. 242 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: That's where we are. I think that Trump's got this though. 243 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I think he knows that you can project strength, you 244 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: can do things without doing everything and as long as 245 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: that's his mantra and that's his focus, I think he'll 246 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: come out of this okay. But everyone is a bit 247 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: on edge over this right now, and I can understand why, 248 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: because there's the Iranian response. We have to consider perhaps 249 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: to talk a bit more about that. On the flip side, 250 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: Stay with me. A US Navy RQ four was flying 251 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: over the Gulf of Oman and the Strait of Hormus 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: on a recent surveillance mission in international airspace in the 253 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: vicinity of recent IRGC maritime attacks when it was shot 254 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: down by an IRGC surface to air missile fired from 255 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: a location in the vicinity of Goruk, Iran. This was 256 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: an unprovoked attack on the US surveillance asset that had 257 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: not violated Iranian airspace at any time during its mission. 258 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: This attack is an attempt to disrupt our ability to 259 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: monitor the area following recent threats to international shipping and 260 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: the free flow of commerce. Iranian reports that this aircraft 261 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: was shot down over Iran are categorically false. The aircraft 262 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: was over the Strait of Hormuz and fell into international waters. 263 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Trump, I think said that he doesn't believe 264 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: that this was intentional from the Iranians at the very 265 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: top of the command chain to give the Iranians a 266 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: chance to back down. That would be my guess as 267 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: to why Trump would say that, because this was clearly 268 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: the Iranians and very likely that they did get this 269 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: order from the very top. I don't think there's some 270 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: rogue Samsite operator who's like, Yeah, I'm just gonna blow 271 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: a one hundred and thirty million dollars us playing out 272 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: of the sky and see what that does for me, 273 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: See what that does for my career. But it is 274 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: interesting to watch the media go back and forth, depending 275 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: on the hour of the day between Trump is a 276 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: warmonger who wants to go to war with Iran and 277 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: Trump isn't being strong enough in response to the Iran 278 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: of to Iran. There's never any wow. Trump is handling 279 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: this the way we want him to. And that just 280 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: goes to show you that the press isn't even rooting 281 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: for an outcome here. The press is rooting for something 282 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: to be bad for Trump. The press is rooting for 283 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the Trump. For President Trump to have some negative result, 284 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. So it doesn't matter what 285 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: he does. They're going to be opposed to it. They're 286 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: going to say that's that's bad and we should all 287 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: be very, very concerned about this. I will say Nancy 288 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: Pelosi surprisingly is willing to say that Trump does not 289 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: want to go to war. So play clip five. I 290 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: think it's a dangerous situation. The high tension wires are 291 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: up in the region. We have to be strong and 292 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: strategic about how we protect our interest. We also cannot 293 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: be reckless in what we do. So it would be 294 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: interesting to see what they have to say whether the 295 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: I don't think the president wants to go to war. 296 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: There's no appetite for going to war in our country. 297 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: The president doesn't want to go to wars. She said, 298 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: there's no appetite for going to war in our country. Um, true, 299 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: that is true. I think the country does not want 300 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: to go to war. The president does not want to 301 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: go to war. I don't think we're going to go 302 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: to war. We just need to urge caution here. There's 303 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: another component of this, though, and that is remember they 304 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: were telling us the Iran deal with some great deal. 305 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: Isn't that a laughable proposition in retrospect, isn't that And 306 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: that's absolutely ridiculous when you see what this Iranian regime, 307 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: how it acts and what it's doing. We'll get the 308 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 1: more this coming up. They made a big mistake by 309 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: shooting our drone down in and of itself to tweet that, no, 310 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: pus provocative is to shoot the drone down. PUS provocative 311 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: is to blow up a Japanese oil tanker with a 312 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Japanese prime minister in your office trying to start negotiations 313 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: with the United States. Push provocative is having your proxy 314 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: shoot into Saudi Arabia. Trump's not the problem. The Iranians 315 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: are the problem, which will be easy to forget in 316 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: the days ahead as the media covers this, they will 317 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: use every opportunity. Look, this is where you really do 318 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: see the mainstream media rooting against the country and rooting 319 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: against America, because the interests of this country right now 320 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: are to have some calm restored to the situation in 321 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: the Middle East and have the Iranians back down and 322 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: stop acting like this belligerent party. You know, we don't 323 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: have sanctions against Uruguay. We're not bullying Thailand all the time, 324 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, we don't. America doesn't just pick random countries 325 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know what, we just want you 326 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: to do some things differently. So we're going to cut 327 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: you off from the international financial system and have you know, 328 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: military might right next door in case you really step 329 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: out of line. I mean, that's not how we operate. 330 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: We're in this situation because the Iranians are the largest 331 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: state sponsor of terror in the world, and the Iranian 332 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: regime very much wants to continue acting in this way 333 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: even though they got this sweet deal from the Obama administration. 334 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: You know, if the Iranians had a different mindset, if 335 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: the Iranian leadership a different mindset, once Trump walked away 336 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: from the deal, they should have just gone to the 337 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: European European partners and said, guys, come on, we sign 338 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: this in good faith. We you know, you need to 339 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: work with us here. We need to But no, I 340 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: mean their response is, Okay, you're gonna do that. We're 341 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna put limpet minds on the side on the wholes 342 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: of ships and international waters. In the straighter horror moves, 343 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna threaten the whole world. I mean, remember, the 344 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: the oil issue as it pertains to the straighter horror 345 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: moves is way more than just a US issue, where 346 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: every major country in the world is affected by this. 347 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: So this isn't something the Iranians can just do and 348 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: then say, well, we're trying to upset the Americans. This 349 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: very quickly would turn into Iran versus the world. In 350 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Iran doesn't have the doesn't have the fight for that. 351 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: So here we have a circumstance where the Trump administration 352 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: may get the Mullahs to back down, and it may 353 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: require us to slap them down first. I think that's very, 354 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: very possible. But the Obama administration deal that so many 355 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: of us were deeply critical of at the time, it 356 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: was a bad deal. That is a true thing. It 357 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: was a very poorly conceived, poorly constructed deal that was 358 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: all about getting a foreign policy legacy for President Obama, 359 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: and it did not solve any of our problems in 360 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Ita East. In fact, I think you could argue very 361 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 1: clearly it made them worse. There were decisions made by 362 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: the Obama administration about foreign policy that revolved around how 363 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the Iranians would react to this. In essence, we don't 364 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: want the Iranians to be too upset with us, so 365 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: we won't do this in Syria or that in Yemen, 366 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: or this in Iraq. That was the approach for years, 367 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: and that's how you have in Iran that was emboldened 368 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: and felt like it was in its best strategic position 369 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 1: in decades in the Middle East, which I think you 370 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: could vary. Now with the Iraqi rival taken out, Egypt 371 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: is really a shadow of it of its former self 372 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: in terms of military force projection and then broader Middle East, 373 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: and our only real counterbalance against the Iranians is Saudi Arabia, 374 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: which as we all know, brings its own huge set 375 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: of problems. The Iranians felt like they were making real 376 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: progress and if you look at a map in the 377 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: Middle East where they had proxy armies, whether it's Hezbollah 378 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: in Lebanon, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas in Gaza and 379 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: the West, the Houthy militia and Yemen, the Shia Militia's 380 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: and mulkata Alsader's outfit of THEO the Soders have had 381 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: a break with the Iranians. But in Iraq, there's a 382 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: lot of places where Iran has been able to extend 383 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: its influence pretty dramatically, and it had an economic recovery 384 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: because of what Obama was willing to do. Now Trump 385 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: has turned that around at some point, the Iranians may 386 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: decide that it's just worth it to do what the 387 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: president do what Trumps is telling them to do, and 388 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: that's how you win. You know, this is one part 389 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: of Trump's approach on foreign policy, on all policy issues, 390 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: is he has an understanding of the need for leverage 391 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: and pressure that you can only get so far by 392 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: asking really politely, by going up, whether it's dealing with 393 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: the political opposition Nancy Pelosi, the Democrats and Schumer, or 394 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: it's dealing with Kim Jong owner. Although look the Kim 395 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: jong un stuff with Trump, I can and explain it, 396 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know why he thinks it's a 397 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: good idea to be so tight and so cozy with 398 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Kim Jong un. I don't know what to tell you. 399 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: It strikes me as odd. But I give him a 400 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: lot of leeway because everyone else has failed an issue. 401 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: But on these other foreign policy matters, dealing with Mexico 402 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: and the migrant issue, threatened to put tariffs in place, 403 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: tariffs with China, and the trade war. If you want 404 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: people to do stuff that they're not just willing to do, 405 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: you have to have some reason for them to do it. 406 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: Because Trump has negotiated deals before. He has an understanding 407 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: of this, and there's winners and losers. It's not you 408 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: know that the congressional version of negotiating deal is Okay, 409 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: we'll spend the taxpayers money, and you'll spend the taxpayers money, 410 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: and we'll just all spend a lot of their money 411 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: and then let's push it all through and then we'll 412 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: pretend at election time that you know, we did everything 413 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: right and didn't mess up. Has Trump died everything right 414 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: on Iran? Right now? I don't know. We have to see. 415 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: I think that there's going to be a response in 416 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: the next forty eight hours. I really do. I think 417 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: something's going to happen. Something is going to change in 418 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: the next forty eight hours here. I don't know what 419 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be. I've heard some things, but I'm 420 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: obviously not on the inside anymore, so I can't tell you. 421 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: And if I wasn't the inside, I definitely couldn't tell you. 422 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: So there's keep your fingers, keep your fingers crossed. Are 423 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: better than that prey, and we have that the commander 424 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: in chief has the right response here and that we 425 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: don't get into something we don't want to get into 426 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: that this doesn't escalate beyond what we want. A friend, 427 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer is going to join and give 428 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: his thoughts on this. Then we'll switch past the Iron 429 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: topic for the second hour. Stay with me. So here's 430 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: the deal. Trump's not the problem, Ditele is this drone 431 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: was in international waters. We've been flying patterns like this 432 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: for months. We're trying to collect intelligence to make informed decisions. 433 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: We've told the Iranians before they shot the drone down 434 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: that I can engage against American personnel or assets. You 435 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: do so at your own peril. The present does not 436 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: want a war with Iran anybody else. President doesn't want 437 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: a war the Iran. Lindsey Graham is saying, So what 438 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: do we want? What should happen here? We have our friend, 439 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer joining us now. Is the author 440 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: of Operation dark Heart. He is a fellow at the 441 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: London Center and he joined us to talk about what's 442 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: going on. Tony, thanks so much, Hey, Buck, always great 443 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: to be on with you. Thanks for having me. All right, 444 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: so they shot they shot our drone down. What should 445 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: we do now? Well? I think there's two things. First, 446 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: we need to state our objectives one last time. I 447 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: think this is an I agree with Senator Graham President Trump, 448 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: based on folks I've talked to at a tooral about 449 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: this today, I think he President Trump's been completely right 450 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: about Iran with us said, there's nothing in a case 451 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: to me that we want to go to war. But 452 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: after we make that second warning, Buck, I think we 453 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: have to be prepared for military action. And I don't 454 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: want to say this in a threatening way, but if 455 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: the President says he's done with the Iranians their navy, 456 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: their navy will be pretty much evaporated in about twenty 457 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: four hours. So I think we can safely use military 458 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: precision strikes against specific military targets which have been used 459 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: as part of the Iranian effort in the Gulf of 460 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: Oman and in the Straits of Homoth to cause problems. 461 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not one for war, but I 462 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: am one to say, if you continue to poke me 463 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: in the eye with a stick, I'm going to take 464 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: that stick, break it in half, and put it in 465 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: your ear. And I think that's to the point where 466 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: we're at right now. Now, what would you say to 467 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: the concerns from from some including on the right that 468 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: if we do that. Let's say, if we, as you 469 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: pointed out, made the Iranian navy effectively no more. Iran 470 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: has a whole bunch of other things that they could do, 471 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: ground based missiles, firing them at ships in the Straits 472 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: of Straight, of Hormos, firing it off at oil tankers. 473 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, if they're what do we do if they 474 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: escalate in response to our escalation or how concerned are 475 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: you that they would do that? At this point? I 476 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: got to be honest with you, I don't think that 477 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: they would respond in that level of kind. I think 478 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: the more we appease them, And I think President Trump 479 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: has tried to kind of split the baby here. He's 480 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: trying to say, look, I don't want to go to war, 481 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: don't push me. At the same time, if you push me, 482 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to war. In this case, they 483 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: have continued to ratchet up their bad behavior. And by 484 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: the way, this drone being down, this is not the 485 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: first time that they've harassed drones over international waters in 486 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: the past. The Obama administration just kind of gave in. 487 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: So this is where I think Uranians are trying to 488 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: push the president to the point of where they think 489 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: you'll get in. I just don't think the understanding is 490 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,479 Speaker 1: not going to get in. And while I don't believe 491 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: we need to be looking at military troops on the ground, again, 492 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: if the moment a military weapon is used against a 493 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: commercial entity, I think we have the right to attack it. 494 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: So if the Rainings do what you stipulate Buck is 495 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: they start firing missiles off and commercial ships, I think 496 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: those those missile sites need to be dealt with very 497 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: quickly and very effectively. And so this is why I 498 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 1: don't think the Rains are going to do that, because 499 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the more they deal with us militarily, the more they're 500 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: going to lose capability, which makes them more vulnerable to 501 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: others who you know, may not be as welling as 502 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: us to restrain ourselves. So I don't think they want 503 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: to do that, and I think they'll recognize I'd like 504 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: to believe they'll be rational and understanding that if they 505 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: use military force, we're going to be forced to use 506 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: force back. What do you think is the proportional response? 507 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: What is a proportional response to them shooting a one 508 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar drone out of the sky. Look like 509 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: my response would be to take out every like weapon side. 510 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: That is, say, if they use, say, for example, the 511 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Chinese made surface to air missile that comes off the 512 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: shore one of the ships, then we take them all out. 513 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm saying, you know, if the navy 514 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: continues to be a problem, we take out the entire navy. 515 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where I don't 516 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: believe for a minute we will be we will benefit 517 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: from just HIG one site. I think if if you 518 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: continue to do things to the level of attacking commercial entities, 519 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: we need to do it, you know, kind of take 520 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: out the whole capability. And let me say something else here, 521 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: which may seem a bit odd, but the Chinese have 522 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: been stalking up on oil. The reason the Chinese are 523 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: stocking up on oil is because they have an economy 524 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: that has no more than two or weeks supply of 525 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: oil in a given time. So I think others that 526 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: would not normally be on our side on this may 527 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: well be on our side on this because while we 528 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: don't need a rainy and oil, while we don't need 529 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: oil from any source, we don't want to see commercial 530 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: entities attacked in the Gulf, which result in the diminishing 531 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: and other parts of the world's economy crashing. So and 532 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: I don't think the Chinese want their economy to crash either. 533 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is we have to be very 534 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: clear on our result, and there may be a need 535 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: for some level of military force. And again, let me 536 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: be clear on this, I'm not proposing a military invasion. 537 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: I don't think we want booths on the ground. At 538 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: the same time, we cannot allow the Iranians to continue 539 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: unimpeded to act badly and try to interferece with an 540 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: interfere with commercial operations within the Gulf. You hear a 541 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: lot about John Bolton's influence on the president's national security policy. Yeah, 542 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of John generally, Tony And should 543 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: this be the concern that a lot of people make 544 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: it out to be? Essentially that Look, I'll just say 545 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: that they say that John is a warmonger. Now that's 546 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: obviously a slur, but you think he's a little too 547 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: quick to go for the go for the you know, 548 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: the fire button. I think in the past John has 549 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: had a record of encouraging military operations against Iran which 550 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: would have not produced good results. And I'm one of 551 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: those where you know. Remember but back during the time 552 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: that John was most vocal, he was trying to encourage 553 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: the Bush forty three administer Creation to go in and 554 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: do air strikes against nuclear sites. I was opposed to 555 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: that because, first off, we just don't know how many 556 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: sites they have, how many you know, if we miss one, 557 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: what happens if you know, they continue to do it. 558 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: So I think there was a lot of issues that 559 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: we just didn't know enough to do accurate air strikes. 560 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: And I think that could have resulted in a larger 561 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: war because that would have been an active aggression. In 562 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: this case we're talking about here, if the Iranians shoot first. 563 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: And this goes back to I use the Reagan metaphor 564 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: in Libyan. You know, the Libyans were in the Mediterranean 565 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: essentially shooting at our airplanes, and when Reagan was asked 566 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: by my friend Budd McFarland, what do you want to do? 567 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: Regan says, shoot them down. So I'm not for aggressive 568 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: offensive operations. I am for very aggressive defensive operations. It's 569 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: based on the predicate of someone shooting at us or 570 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: interfering with our commerce. And I think this is where 571 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe in the past, John there was a little bit 572 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: too aggressive regarding trying to create offensive operations without a 573 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: clear predicate, and I think that's where John got a 574 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: bad rep. Is John doing better now and that I 575 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: think John is being much more in tune with what 576 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: President Trump would want done. I really do believe that. 577 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Talking Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaeffer, author of Operation dark Heart 578 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: also you know him from the London Center for Policy Research. 579 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: All right, Tony, what about if the Iranians follow through 580 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: on their threat to enrich uranium? What is it up 581 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: to twenty percent? Which puts them in very quick striking 582 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: distance of weaponizing uranium? What should should our policy just 583 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: be keep the sanctions on, be patient, keep the squeeze on, 584 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: or should it be stronger than that? Now? I'm one 585 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: of those again that I think the sanctions and the 586 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: very severe economic restrictions we've placed on them are actually 587 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: having an effect. And I again, I've never been one 588 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: for the idea of air strikes buck because we just 589 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know what we don't know to kind of do 590 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: a quote of Don Rumstone, there's no unknowns and all 591 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: this other stuff. So I'm not comfortable with the idea 592 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: of going in there and trying to bomb these things. 593 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: So I think the use of sanctions to strangle their 594 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: ability to do things. And by the way, that infusion 595 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: of billions of dollars the Obama administration aid them did 596 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: not help us and help them move their weapons programs along. 597 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: So I think the best thing we can do is 598 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: try to get them back to the negotiating table and 599 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: go from there. But I'm not for military action at 600 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: this point regarding a nuclear program. What that said, the 601 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: other thing we should be encouraging, and I'm saying this 602 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: as Tony Shaper, Senior fellow at the London Center, not 603 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: as a member or not as someone who advises the 604 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: Trump administration, but I think we need to encourage a 605 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: regime change. A democratic Iran run by someone like the 606 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: Green Movement, who are predisposed to not be trying to 607 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: develop weapons of mass structure would be in our ent 608 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 1: and the Green Movement back in two thousand and nine, 609 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: I would argue the Obama administration made a huge problem 610 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: by not supporting the Persian Spring. They supported the Arab Spring, 611 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: but the Persians they had a Green movement who was 612 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: seeking democracy, and the Obama administration had absolutely nothing to 613 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: help them. There's still a very strong movement within Iran 614 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: that wants to get rid of the Molas to move 615 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: towards democracy. I think we should encourage that. And frankly, 616 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: if they're having their own internal problems, it gives them 617 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: less opportunity to terrorize or be troublesome to their neighbors 618 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: around them. Well, Tennant, Colonel Tony Shaff for everybody. Tony, 619 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Always appreciate your insights, 620 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: Sir hey Buck, always great to be on with you. 621 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:46,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, team, We'll be right back about 622 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: our ABC News investigation this morning. And did Joe Biden's 623 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: son Hunter and questions about money he made from foreign 624 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: business dealings while his father was Vice president? Was Hunter 625 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: Biden profiting off his dad's work as vice president? And 626 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: did Joe Biden allow it? We're talking about millions of 627 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: dollars in at least two countries. Mister Vice President Tom 628 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Yamas with ABC News, How you doing. I got a 629 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: quick question for you. It's a question we tried to 630 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: ask repeatedly. Can we ask you about Ukraine and China? 631 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: But kept getting blocked questions about foreign deals? His son 632 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden pursued my father Joden in countries where Joe 633 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: Biden was working as a Miracle's top diplomat. How do 634 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: you judge what Hunter Biden was doing. I think that 635 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden did a very bad thing and he was 636 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: very wrong. He allowed his name to be abused. ABC 637 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: News here doing a little rundown on some of the 638 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: problems facing Hunter Biden, whom I believe is the same 639 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden who took up a relationship with the widow 640 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: of Bobiden, his brother, after Bobiden died, which that strikes 641 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: me as a quite odd thing to do. But at 642 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: issue here is that Hunter Biden may have been receiving 643 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: money that was really just an influence peddling scheme. What 644 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: does Hunter Biden have to do with these deals in 645 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: Ukraine and in China where he was making millions of dollars? 646 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: What expertise does he bring to them? Why would they 647 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: put him on either the board of any of these 648 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: companies or involved in deals with these companies. Why would 649 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: they do any of that unless it was because they 650 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: were trying to buy favor and buy access to his father. 651 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: And this is what I will never let this go. 652 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: The Clintons were so corrupt, They were so completely brazenly 653 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: willing to sell access to themselves and to sell access 654 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: to the Clinton enterprise, that it was hard to keep 655 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: up with it. And they almost created a perception of 656 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: that activity in those behaviors as normal on their own, 657 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: just by being so flagrant in their violations of those laws. 658 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: How is it that the guardians of our republic, the 659 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,919 Speaker 1: mainstream media that always pretends to be willing to speak 660 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: truth to power, how is it that they were unable 661 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: or uninterested in figuring out what was really going on? 662 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: To the Clinton Foundation? How the heck did Hillary Clinton 663 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: and it being worth and her husband worth over a 664 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, never mind the I think it was 665 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: two billion that they raised for the Clinton Global Initiative. 666 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 1: How did all that happen? Why was all of that happening? 667 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: These were questions that journalists knew. If they wanted advancement, 668 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: if they wanted to keep their privilege purchase, if they 669 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: wanted to just be on the upward trajectory, they had 670 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: to completely forget, completely abandon any pretense of neutrality of journalism, 671 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: of honesty and earnestness in their endeavors, and cover for 672 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and everywhere that they could. 673 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll be quite as willing to 674 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 1: do that for the Biden family. The Bidens have shown 675 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: that they are very interested in making money. For all 676 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: the talk about being public servants. I mean, Hunter Biden 677 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: here shown up in foreign countries. Well, think about this, 678 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: what would he have to bring to the table, and 679 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: with some oil company in Ukraine, or of course is 680 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: that his dad's a vice president. There's nothing else here. 681 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: There's nothing else that makes any sense. We know what 682 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: this was all about, We understand what the game was 683 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: that was being played. Just be better if we could 684 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: be honest about it, and if our journalists would be 685 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: a bit honest about it. My old colleague, former colleague 686 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: at the Hill, John Solomon, he's been breaking stories on 687 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 1: this and he's saying, look this, this stuff is real. 688 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: He says that Joe Biden made sure that there was 689 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: the firing of a prosecutor who was looking into in Ukraine. 690 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: The prosecutor was looking into a fossil fuel production company 691 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: that a Hunter Biden was on was involved with in 692 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: some capacity I think consulting and getting some fat fees, 693 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: and Biden shut the whole thing down. But these people 694 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: want to want to get mad if someone from like 695 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: the Embassy of Japan buys a hamburger the Trump International Hotel. 696 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a violation of the emoluments Clause. Sorry, 697 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I don't think we 698 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: should accept that kind of nonsense at all. By the way, 699 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think that we're starting to also see 700 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: that people are running out of patients with this continued 701 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: discussion over reparations. And I didn't get to play this 702 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: for you yesterday, but because the reparation ideas, it's never 703 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: going to go anywhere significant. It really is just for show. 704 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: It is moral theater, and really mostly moral theater for 705 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,440 Speaker 1: white liberals who want to feel like they're doing the 706 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: right thing and they feel good about themselves. But here's 707 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: what Burgess Owens, who is a former NFL player we've 708 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 1: had on the show many times. Here's what he says 709 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: about reparations. Play clip two. How about a Democratic party 710 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: pay for all the misery brought to my race and those, 711 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: after we learn our history decide to stay there, they 712 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: should pay. Also, they're complicit, and every white American Republican 713 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: or democrat, it feels guilty because they'll be your white skin. 714 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: You should need to pony up also the guilt, my friends, 715 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: It's very powerful tool in the hands of liberals. They 716 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: use it on any number of things. They use it 717 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: with trying to push for things that are essentially racial 718 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 1: preferences or some form of racial distinction within the law. 719 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: They use it to convince us all that environmental policy 720 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 1: should be dictated from a kind of green priesthood that 721 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: thinks that they're saving the world, even if they won't 722 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: change their own behavior, and make no effort to be 723 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: part of the solution other than to make everybody else 724 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: part of a solution that will never happen, that will 725 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: never really, never really occur. I think that in the 726 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 1: aftermath of yesterday's hearing, a lot of people on reparations, 727 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: A lot of people walk around saying, why was that 728 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: hearing even necessary? What would it mean for English common 729 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: law based American law? I should say it was comona, 730 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: But what I mean for English commonla based American law, 731 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 1: if all of a sudden you could be held responsible 732 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: for the sins of your parents, or your grandparents or 733 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: your great grandparents, you personally could be it could be 734 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: held out that you were going to be the one 735 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: that had to pay the price. That would very quickly 736 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: erode our entire system of jurisprudence, whereby you can only 737 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: be guilty if you've done something wrong. You can only 738 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: be the person who has to be has to be 739 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: punished if you've taken some action, If there's some part 740 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 1: of this process where you have an you're an active 741 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: participant in it. But I just thought that the reparations 742 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: case that was being made yesterday in Capitol Hill, it 743 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: was very weak and just does not make any sense. 744 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: And I didn't even get into yesterday, And this was 745 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,439 Speaker 1: a part of it that I always think about, Well, 746 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 1: what if you're what if you're somebody who's half black, 747 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: half white, somebody like Barack Obama, Where does do reparations 748 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: go to you directly if you're from a mixed racial background, 749 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: in the same to you to the same percentage as 750 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,479 Speaker 1: somebody that comes from an entirely African American background? Would 751 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: that be there? You know, who would qualify for this? 752 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: And at ultimately that's when you realize it's just going 753 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: to be a slush fund. It's just gonna be money 754 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: set aside for left wing causes and the promotion of 755 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 1: left wing ideas and everything else very quickly just would 756 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: be meaningless. It would be billions and billions of dollars 757 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: for progressive institutions, the kind that build really fancy mansions 758 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: here in DC and you walk past them and you 759 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: say yourself, what an organization is that? Did they have 760 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: this kind of money throw around? Well, a lot of unions, 761 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 1: by the way, some of these unions AFLCIO and all 762 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: this stuff, I know they would say, oh, we represent 763 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: huge memberships. Man, They've got fancy buildings down here in DC, 764 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 1: very very fancy indeed. So oh, one more thing, do 765 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: you want to get a quick lesson from AOC on? Well, 766 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: I don't have time for the Yeah, no, enough time 767 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: for it. We'll have to hold that one for tomorrow. Corruption, though, 768 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: is this is one of the clear worst areas of 769 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: the law, where there's a Republican standard and a Democrat standard. 770 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: And you're seeing this with the hunter Biden thing. Why 771 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 1: didn't we know about this before? It's only breaking now 772 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,399 Speaker 1: because hunter Biden has become more expendable with the left. 773 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: In fact, I think there are a lot of people 774 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: on the left that want Biden to step aside. I 775 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: do think that the smart people on the left realize 776 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: that Biden just does not does not have it in 777 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: any sense. He will not be able to beat President Trump. 778 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: And so that means that the same left that was 779 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: willing to fight so dirty with you and me, they're 780 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: going to start fighting dirty with their own And I 781 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: think you saw that with Kamala Harris and Corey Booker. 782 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: They're going to be willing to really take it up 783 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: a notch here. So team, we have a much more 784 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: show coming up in just a moment. Somebody running for 785 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,279 Speaker 1: president United States, somebody running to be the leader of 786 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: our party should know that using the word boy and 787 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: the way he did can cause hurt and pain, to 788 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: coddle the reputations of segreds of people who, if they 789 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: had their way, I would literally not be standing here 790 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,279 Speaker 1: to remember le and I've state Senate is I think, um, 791 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: it's just it's misinformed. What happened all of a sudden, 792 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: the Democrats are going and turning on Biden. Some of 793 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 1: the prominent, i would say, the most prominent establishment connected 794 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: Democrat candidates here, Kamala Harris and Corey Booker, I'd say 795 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 1: they're two of the very top, both US senators from 796 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: big blue states, very friendly with the media, very cozy 797 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: with the Democrat media establishment. They're going after Biden here 798 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: and let's just go over a little well, well, let's 799 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,959 Speaker 1: just set the stage and then I'll tell you what's 800 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: what's really happening here. So Biden recently said of some 801 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: of his colleague He was at a New York fundraiser 802 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 1: yesterday when he pointed to the relationship he had with 803 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: senators like James Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Talmadge of 804 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 1: Georgia to say that DC or Washington, the swamp used 805 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: to function with more civility and more smoothly than it 806 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: does today. He was effectively a decrying the hyperpartisan atmosphere 807 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,240 Speaker 1: of the current moment we are in now. Put aside 808 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: whether or not you agree with that, or that's a 809 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 1: worthwhile thing for Biden is SAA or whether everyone should 810 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: care about any of that. The problem here is that 811 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: Senators James Eastland and Herman Talmadge are or well they're 812 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 1: not long dead, but they were segregationists. Ah, so you 813 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: have Joe Biden who's saying that these two segregation of senators. 814 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: We worked together really closely, and it was great because 815 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of civility. There were civility, we 816 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: got things done, he said. And man, did his Democrat 817 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: colleagues begin this pylon all of a sudden, quote Corey 818 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: Booker jumped in, I have to tell Vice President Biden, 819 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: as someone I respect, that he's wrong for using his 820 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,880 Speaker 1: relationship with Eastland and Talmadge as examples of how to 821 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: bring our country together. New York City mayor build a Blasio, 822 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: who is also Democratic Candidate's a mayor. He's married to 823 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: a black woman in New York City, he tweeted out, quote, 824 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: it's twenty nineteen and Joe Biden is longing for the 825 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,520 Speaker 1: good old days of civility typified by James Eastland. Eastland 826 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: thought my multi racial family should be illegal. California Senator 827 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, a black presidential candidate, said Biden was coddling 828 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: segregationist in a way that suggests that he doesn't understand 829 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: the dark history of our country. And then Beto O'Rourke, 830 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what did Biden say? What do you 831 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 1: do for the Vice president to somehow say that we're 832 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: seeing in this country today is a function of partisanship 833 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 1: or of bipartisanship, completely ignores the legacy of slavery, the 834 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: active suppression of African American and community of colors, communities 835 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 1: of color right now. So they're all jumping in here, folks, 836 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: they're all pilot on with Biden saying, oh, how could 837 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: he say that he worked with these senators back in 838 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: the day and that they were civil to each other. 839 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 1: That's not allowed, that's unacceptable. Biden has perhaps learned a 840 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: little bit since the last time he was the subject 841 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: of a pylon, which was over whether there should be 842 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: a repeal of the High Amendment. Remember, the High Amendment 843 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: prevents federal funding for abortions. Taxpayer dollars to go to abortions, 844 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: which is really a giveaway with no substance. Because your 845 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: tax dollars, I can tell you do you go to abortion? 846 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: They go to planned parenthood. And Planned parenthood may say 847 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 1: that money doesn't go to abortions, but yeah, if you 848 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: give me ten thousand dollars and I tell you that 849 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: it's not going to my new sports car, it's going 850 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: to my education, well okay, but you just give me 851 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars, So I can spend the money on 852 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: whatever I want. That doesn't really make all that much difference. 853 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: That Biden got caught being somebody without much in the 854 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: way of principles or any particular core and so now 855 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 1: he's decided that he's not going to apologize for this 856 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: latest moment, this latest gaff. Play clip four. Corey should apologize. 857 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 1: He knows better. There's not a racist bone in my body. 858 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: I've been involved in civil rights my whole career. Period, period, period. 859 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: It's kind of going on offense a little bit there. 860 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: Corey should know better. Although I don't think that's I 861 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna cut it. I don't think Corey 862 00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: and Kamal and the rest are going to say, oh, okay, well, 863 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: if Biden wants us leave us alone, we will. Let 864 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 1: me say this, Where does the left draw the line here? 865 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: If you were a senator, and you've been a senator 866 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: for a very long time, and you had to serve 867 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: with fellow senators who were not just people who are segregationists, 868 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: but what about people who, oh, give it some time, 869 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: what about people who are for a traditional marriage in 870 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 1: the Senate? Will that be considered a mark against senators 871 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: decades from now, What also do we say about the 872 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: fact that then anybody who served in the Senate at 873 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,919 Speaker 1: that time on the Democrat side and worked with these 874 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: two segregationists, because they would have had to work with 875 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: them if they're going to be in the same party 876 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: and they're going to try to get bills past, are 877 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: they all guilty of being allies or activists or supporters 878 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: of the segregationist senators? Is that is that what we're 879 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: supposed to take from this. The left doesn't really establish 880 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 1: any clear guidelines. It's it's often just left to be 881 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,879 Speaker 1: whatever it is, that's what it's going to be. They 882 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,840 Speaker 1: make it up as they go along, and on this 883 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 1: you just have some Democrat candidates who are clearly upset, 884 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,920 Speaker 1: not about what Joe Biden said so much as they're 885 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 1: upset I think that their campaigns haven't caught on more, 886 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: and that Joe Biden's getting so much of the attention 887 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: and so much of the money. He managed without an 888 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 1: endorsement from Obama and without any particularly impressive career of 889 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: his own, he managed to put himself in a position 890 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: where he's just the he is the front runner, he 891 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: is the guy. And based on what I mean that 892 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: it's based on eight years of Obama is pretty stunning 893 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: because Biden didn't do all that much to speak of 894 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: in those Obama years, and usually a vice president like 895 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily just get to be at the very 896 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: very front of the pack in a crowded field in 897 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:51,200 Speaker 1: the next general election. But Biden, I've been you know, 898 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: I've been saying all along. He's a weak candidate. He's 899 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: not going to be stronger as a candidate. There's no 900 00:52:55,640 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: way that Joe Biden can beat Donald Trump in my opinion, 901 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: unless something just completely unforeseen, unforeseeable and crazy happens. There's 902 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:12,320 Speaker 1: just no way, because why why would anyone vote for 903 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: this guy change his positions on a whim? What ideas 904 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: it does? Does he have? Oh, I'm gonna be more civil, 905 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be more friendly people by the team. I'm 906 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: sorry my voice. I'm I've got a cold in June, 907 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: which is really I don't know, that's the thing that 908 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: really happened to people. So my voice keeps cracking and 909 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 1: my head's all stuffed up, and you know, I'm on 910 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 1: taking some meds to try to get through the show. 911 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: But I apologize if you hear my voice crack or 912 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: something bad goes down during the show like that. I'm 913 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 1: fighting through a team because neither rain nor snow nor 914 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,000 Speaker 1: sleet or whatever that is. Blah blah, I have a cold. 915 00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: I'll keep doing my show. We'll grab back, Congresswoman. Tens 916 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: of thousands were also brutalized, tortured, starved, and ultimately died 917 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: in concentration camps camps like Takau. If you want to 918 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 1: criticize the shameful treatment of people at our southern border, fine, 919 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,600 Speaker 1: they'll have plenty of company, but be careful comparing them 920 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: to Nazi concentration camps, because they're not at all comparable 921 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 1: in the slightest But here's where upsetting as are comments. 922 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: Some Democrats have been relucting to condemn her remarks, and 923 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to get criticized on Twitter. Fellow New 924 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: Our Congressman Jerry Nadler tweeted in response, one of the 925 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,880 Speaker 1: lessons from the Holocaust is never again. We fail to 926 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,799 Speaker 1: learn that lesson when we don't call out such inhumanity 927 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: right in front of us. Darry Nadler Shirley knows migrant 928 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: detainment camps are not the same as concentration camps. So 929 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,239 Speaker 1: why didn't he just say that? Why are we so 930 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 1: cheapest calling out people we agree with politically these days? 931 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 1: So Chuck Todd maybe accidentally is engaging in an active, 932 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: somewhat sane journalism here Chuck Todd NBC? Why does this 933 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,280 Speaker 1: guy have the job he has? What is he particularly 934 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,600 Speaker 1: good at? Why shouldn't even listen to him? I can't 935 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: answer any of those questions for you, folks. I don't know. 936 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: You get a lot of these guys that we're just 937 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: supposed to listen to because they've been around for a 938 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: while and they're friends with the execs that run these companies. Basically, 939 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: what is it about Chuck Tbwell, who cares Chuck Todd? 940 00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: Meanwhile he's calling out AOC, and who wants to just 941 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,319 Speaker 1: in their own head here for a second, just just 942 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,360 Speaker 1: give it a little guess. Did Chuck Todd get treated 943 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: like he was doing the right thing for calling out 944 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: of Casey Cortez? Or was the response response to him 945 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: that he's a terrible person and he's the worst and 946 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:37,320 Speaker 1: he's a sellout and everything else. Oh, that's right, it's 947 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: defend AOC no matter what time. That's where the left 948 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: is that is where the left heart and soul is 949 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: right now, whatever it has to be, defend AOC. She 950 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,239 Speaker 1: tripled down yesterday. She keeps going with this concentration thing. 951 00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,799 Speaker 1: She said, we are calling these camps. We're calling these 952 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: camps what they are because they fit squarely in an 953 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: academic consensus and definition. History will be kind to those 954 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: who stood up to this injustice. So say what you will. 955 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: Kids are dying, and I'm not here to make people 956 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: free feel comfortable about that. Okay, Again, just demagoguery, I 957 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: mean shameless demagoguery when she says kids are dying. There 958 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: are no kids who are dying in the detention facilities 959 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,719 Speaker 1: because of the conditions or because of unsafe you know, 960 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: unsafe holding cells or anything like that. The kids who 961 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: have died have showed up at the border incredibly sick 962 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: because they're going through a dangerous passage to get there 963 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 1: in the first place. Those kids have showed up, they've 964 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: been very ill, and they've been immediately taken to get 965 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 1: first world taxpayer funded American healthcare right away. But if 966 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,439 Speaker 1: you show up with the kid who was one hundred 967 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: and four fever and is dehydrated, and you know, bad 968 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 1: things can happen. It's terrible, it's a tragedy, but that's 969 00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: what has been happening. But see her suggestion question here 970 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,799 Speaker 1: is that the kids are dying because of immigration and 971 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 1: custom enforcement or because of border patrol, which is just wrong. 972 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's wrong on the facts. It's also 973 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: morally wrong. It's wrong to suggest that to make it 974 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: seem like the men and women or border patrol are 975 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: killing kids. Don't even get me started on how AOC 976 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: and so much of the left only cares about kids 977 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: in the context of migrants, not in the womb. You know, 978 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 1: there was a really interesting Cleveland Clinic video that they 979 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:41,360 Speaker 1: put out showing a cartoon essentially or a visualization of 980 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: a spina bifida surgery being done on a fetus. And 981 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: it's incredible and they just did the first successful one ever. 982 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 1: And this was making the rounds on Twitter and on 983 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,919 Speaker 1: social media because people were asking the obvious question, if 984 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,760 Speaker 1: this is basically this fetus is basically a tumor or 985 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: a parasite or a clump of cells or the other stuff, 986 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 1: the other deeply disingenuous, non scientific stuff that is said 987 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: about it by libs who just want to justify what 988 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: they're doing. Why are they doing a very complicated spina 989 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 1: bifitous surgery on that fetus. You don't do a spina 990 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: as in spine surgery on a clump of random cells. 991 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 1: Who certainly wouldn't do that on a tumor. But this 992 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: is this is where we are now. The people that 993 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: claim to embrace science reject science so blatantly in the 994 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: case of life and the fight over life. Oh wait, 995 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: here we go, there's more from me. I'm sorry, there's 996 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: This is from Walter shab who is the Office of 997 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 1: Government Ethics, former director of that. Okay, oh yeah, he's 998 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: one of these guys who's always coming out now out 999 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: to say like Trump is breaking this law or that laws. 1000 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: There's a whole industry of people that come up with 1001 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:10,400 Speaker 1: obscure laws or bizarre interpretations of laws that allows someone 1002 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: to try to throw Trump in prison. That's what they try, 1003 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: that's what they want, or at least tell themselves they 1004 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: maybe do that one day. Sky Walter Shaubs wrote here 1005 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: about the AOC dust up in the future of the 1006 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: history books, if there are history books, will have much 1007 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,840 Speaker 1: to say about the people who did the normalizing this phenomenon. 1008 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: Is not notable for its uniqueness of the times that, 1009 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: similar to other periods of darkness, the lessons have not 1010 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 1: been learned. And that's in response to a Kazi Ortel's 1011 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: writing to Chuck Todd. The fact that you slipped in 1012 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: Nazi when I never said that is pretty unfortunate, Almost 1013 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,360 Speaker 1: as unfortunate as the fact that you spent this whole 1014 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: time without discussing DHS, freezers, dog pounds, missing children, and 1015 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: human rights abuses that uphold use of this term. She's 1016 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,040 Speaker 1: not backing off of saying concentration camps at the border. 1017 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: She's not, folks, After all the information that has been 1018 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: pushed her way, after all the free history lessons that 1019 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: she's been given, she's still saying concentration camps. Why because 1020 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: ultimately this is not really about those kids. It's not. 1021 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 1: She might say it is, she pretends it is. But 1022 01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: by calling what's going on in a southern border concentration camps, 1023 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: it serves two very important purposes for the left. One 1024 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: is that it ties into the whole Trump is basically 1025 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: basically Hitler is a fascist. And two, it keeps the 1026 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: focus off of the fact that the Democrats have no 1027 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,240 Speaker 1: answers as to what should be done at the border, 1028 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: have no theories about how we can make this better, 1029 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: and so all they would like to do is continue 1030 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: to point the Republicans and say, see, these guys are bad. 1031 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,080 Speaker 1: They don't like the migrants. Bad, bad, bad, and that's 1032 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: what they're doing. AOC is an intellectual abomination, but she's 1033 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,959 Speaker 1: very powerful and has a lot of people. Wow, four 1034 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 1: point four three million Twitter followers, she has a massive audience. 1035 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I mean for somebody who is a third tier intellect, 1036 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean somebody who's just not impressive at all in 1037 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: terms of the grasp of information and knowledge and her 1038 01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: synthesis of all of that. It's appalling. But people are 1039 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: still backing her up. People are still pretending that what 1040 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: she said was not the outrageous and stupid comparison that 1041 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: it was. But Chuck Todd, I'm surprised to see that 1042 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: he was willing to be not even a journalist, just 1043 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: be normal for a moment, just to speak the truth 1044 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,520 Speaker 1: about something like this. So many journalists are just running 1045 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: scared from AOC all the time. They think that they 1046 01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: have to constantly prop her up. They have to find 1047 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: some way to justify whatever it is that she says 1048 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty pathetic. It is pretty pathetic. And I know 1049 01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: that the left would say, oh, but the right, or 1050 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 1: at least the conservative journals do that for Trump. It's 1051 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 1: not true. I know a lot of people on the 1052 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,760 Speaker 1: right who will disagree with something Trump said or how 1053 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: he said it. They just support Trump as the movement. 1054 01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,280 Speaker 1: They don't think that everything he does is perfect. We 1055 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 1: don't have some Messiah complex with Trump. I think they do. 1056 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 1: With AOC coming up in a few moments, we're going 1057 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: to talk about the injustice of the exoneration and now 1058 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the lionization of the Central Park five, the individuals who 1059 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 1: are initially convicted of a brutal rape and attempted murder 1060 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: in Central Park back in nineteen eighty nine. They're now 1061 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: being turned into civil rights icons, folk heroes, and Hollywood 1062 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 1: is just completely completely changing the history and the facts 1063 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: to suit this this narrative. We all know what the 1064 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: narrative is. The narrative is that evil white cops who 1065 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: were racist just grabbed the nearest black boys that they 1066 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: could in order to try and you know, get false 1067 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: confessions out of them because of pressure from city hall. 1068 01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: You know that that's the narrative. That's the thing that 1069 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: they tried to do, and that's not what reality was. 1070 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: But I will get into that a few minutes. But 1071 01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: I do have some good news here today from the 1072 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 1: legal front, because that that is bad news, that does 1073 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,919 Speaker 1: not work. But some good news from the legal front 1074 01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: would be that the you may recall this, I talked 1075 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: about the story here on the show, the Sheila Jackson 1076 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: Lee staffer who decided to docks meaning to share the 1077 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: private information of members of the Republican Senate in order 1078 01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:56,160 Speaker 1: to do them harm just because they're Republicans. I mean, 1079 01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 1: this was a this was a political hit, and this 1080 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: happened during the final hearing for Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. 1081 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: That Democrat congressional staffer has just been sentenced to four 1082 01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: years in prison. This from the Daily Daily Wire today. 1083 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Jackson Costco was described by prosecutors as having self righteous 1084 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,680 Speaker 1: entitlement and believing that he could violate the sanctity of 1085 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the United States Senate at will and threaten individual senators 1086 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 1: as he pleased. Prosecutors sought to make an example of 1087 01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Costco because his crime allegedly led to other incidents of 1088 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 1: attacks on political opposition. Costco is the son of the 1089 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: CEO of a major construction company who has ties to 1090 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 1: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Diane Feinstein. He had 1091 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,440 Speaker 1: previously worked as a staffer in Maggie Hassan's office, but 1092 01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: has since moved on to working for Lee. While Senator's 1093 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:03,120 Speaker 1: Question cabin On, doctor Christine Blasi Award Costco snuck into 1094 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: his former boss's office to use a computer to publish 1095 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: the private information of senators who supported Kavanaugh. Now, this 1096 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,960 Speaker 1: should not be surprising in a sense that this happens 1097 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: because the Left has adopted very much an attitude of 1098 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: anything that hurts the opposition is good. There are no 1099 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,920 Speaker 1: more rules that we have to abide by. There's no 1100 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 1: more decency that we have to strive for or try 1101 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 1: to hold ourselves too. It's just about how do you 1102 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 1: crush the other side? How do you mess the other 1103 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: guy up who disagrees with you? And doxing, which is 1104 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: the release of private information into a public domain in 1105 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: order to create harassment, threats, embarrassment. Doxing is a tactic 1106 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,240 Speaker 1: that mainstream media outlets will use. I will never forget 1107 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 1: that CNN because somebody created a meme that CNN didn't like, 1108 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 1: you know, pro Trump meme that they threatened to docks 1109 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,160 Speaker 1: the person, like, we're gonna we found out who you are, 1110 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna tell everybody unless you take this down 1111 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,640 Speaker 1: and do what we say. That's a major media organization. 1112 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,880 Speaker 1: I mean, CNN is also a terrible joke and a 1113 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 1: festering boil on American journalism. But it is a big 1114 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,080 Speaker 1: place with a lot of money and a lot of influence, 1115 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: a lot of reach. But if you really believe the rhetoric, 1116 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: and I keep coming back to this because it's so important, 1117 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: if you believe the rhetoric of the left, that we 1118 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,320 Speaker 1: are in an existential fight for the future of this country, 1119 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 1: that Trump is a threat to this republic, that anybody 1120 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: who stands with Trump needs to be made an example of. Well, 1121 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you do this? Isn't it more important to 1122 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,720 Speaker 1: defeat such a terrible opposition. Isn't it more important to 1123 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 1: do that than to play by whatever the Senate rules are? Well, 1124 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: this guy's gonna find four years. By the way, that's 1125 01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,240 Speaker 1: a pretty that's a real sentence. I mean, that's real, 1126 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 1: that's real prison time. That's not messing around, but it's 1127 01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: deserved you have to make an example of somebody like 1128 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,280 Speaker 1: this that he would use his government access in this 1129 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 1: way for such a petty, spiteful part as an operation. 1130 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, he even went further. He according 1131 01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,440 Speaker 1: to according to here in the Daily Wire, he threatened 1132 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: somebody who knew what he tried to do and said 1133 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,600 Speaker 1: that he would release all of the stuff as essentially 1134 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:45,560 Speaker 1: was holding the information hostage. Costco pleaded guilty in April 1135 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 1: to crimes related to an unparalleled effort to ransaka Senate office, 1136 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: extorting a Democratic senator, illegally harming Republicans for their political views, 1137 01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 1: and blackmailing a witness. Here you go, another staffer and 1138 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Hassen's office recognized Costco and reported him. So he sent 1139 01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,680 Speaker 1: that staffer an email threatening to quote leak it all 1140 01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 1: if the staffer told anyone what he had done. He said, emails, 1141 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:20,479 Speaker 1: signal conversations, gmails, senators, children's health information, and social security numbers. 1142 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:28,080 Speaker 1: This guy, Costco wrote, what a sick maniac. He knew 1143 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 1: exactly what he was doing. He knew exactly what the 1144 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 1: results of this would be, which was just a total 1145 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 1: nightmare for the people that would have been affected by 1146 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 1: it and all their socials and everything out there, or 1147 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: their phone numbers, their home addresses, everything to violate the 1148 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,679 Speaker 1: trust of the United States Senate in that way. Why 1149 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 1: isn't the medium more interested in this story? We know why. 1150 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I asked that. I asked that question rhetorically, 1151 01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,120 Speaker 1: but it's so fascinating that's someone who was entrusted with 1152 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: that access on Capitol Hill would go to these lengths. 1153 01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 1: But Kavanaugh, I keep coming back to it. Cavanaugh was 1154 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: a turning point in my mind in American politics. Cavanaugh 1155 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: was something else. It was different. It was proof of 1156 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 1: what many of us had known was there for a 1157 01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 1: long time, but now it was staring us in the 1158 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 1: face that the Left will do anything to destroy people 1159 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,479 Speaker 1: that stand in the way of their power, that they 1160 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 1: have no demands of honor or decency in the way 1161 01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 1: that they fight, and that they were cheering on that 1162 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,880 Speaker 1: destruction of Cavana. I mean, anyone in public life who 1163 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: was a part of defaming Brett Kavanaugh, who was hoping 1164 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: for and advocating for him to be destroyed, should be 1165 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 1: deeply ashamed. It was grotesque. It was grotesque. But the 1166 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,680 Speaker 1: left's response to all this is not to try to 1167 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 1: clean up their act. It's not to be better going forward. 1168 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: They just feel like they lost that one, but they'll 1169 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 1: win the next one. And that's how you have people 1170 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: like this Costco guy who figure, well, if we can't 1171 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,519 Speaker 1: get our way and stop Kavanaugh, we might as well 1172 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: create problems, personal problems, put the safety of senators families 1173 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: in jeopardy. Given the that moment in politics, you think 1174 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 1: it's really a good idea to put the Republican senators 1175 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 1: who are willing to stand out for Kavanaugh do the 1176 01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 1: right thing to put their information out there in the 1177 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:34,679 Speaker 1: public domain for anyone to see, not just their address, 1178 01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 1: of their phone numbers, their kids health information. Does this 1179 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: stuff happen on the right, folks, because I never see 1180 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,120 Speaker 1: it. It It always seems to happen the left. The really vicious, vindictive, 1181 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: crazy stuff seems to be stuck on the left. I 1182 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 1: don't think I'm imagining that. I don't think that's just 1183 01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 1: my perception. Here, you and us, who you were in 1184 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 1: the park with, oh names, I's got a loss. Where 1185 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: did you see the lady one lady, the female charger. 1186 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 1: It was severely beaten and raped. Every blackmail who was 1187 01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: in the park last night is a suspect. I need 1188 01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:24,320 Speaker 1: all of them. What's going on with my son? Your 1189 01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:30,559 Speaker 1: certains are involved and we're rape in Central part they 1190 01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: saw you rape the lady. Didn't see a lady or 1191 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,080 Speaker 1: hit anyone. I didn't see any lady, Kevin, I didn't 1192 01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,200 Speaker 1: see any I want to see my son right now, 1193 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:49,960 Speaker 1: right now. Whatever they said I did, I didn't. So 1194 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:54,719 Speaker 1: in These Boys State Matches the central facts of the crime. 1195 01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,559 Speaker 1: Let Netflix show when they see us about the Central 1196 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 1: Park what people known as a Central Park five. And 1197 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 1: this is a very politically charged documentary on a very 1198 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,200 Speaker 1: politically charge, a very sensitive case that I remember, even 1199 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: though I was quite young at the time, I was 1200 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: eight years old, but I remember people talking about it. 1201 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 1: I grew up three blocks from Central Park in New 1202 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,240 Speaker 1: York City. I used to go into the park for 1203 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,960 Speaker 1: all of my school years to play sports. And when 1204 01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,840 Speaker 1: I was growing up, you were told that if you 1205 01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 1: went into Central Park at night, bad things were likely 1206 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: to happen, which in retrospect is just that's almost like 1207 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,400 Speaker 1: saying that there's a whole area of a city that's 1208 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 1: been ceded to you know, bad guys or insurgents or something. 1209 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this was just completely insane. I couldn't go 1210 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: to a park at night, a park in what is 1211 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: a very wealthy part of New York City, because there 1212 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,120 Speaker 1: was a real threat of physical violence against you. Central 1213 01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,080 Speaker 1: Park is not that big. I mean it's a really 1214 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe four or five miles north to south and maybe 1215 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: two miles across. It's not that big of an area. 1216 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,320 Speaker 1: So when you when you look at what the city 1217 01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 1: was like at this time and the feelings that people had. 1218 01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 1: As a native New Yorker growing up there, there was 1219 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: a sense that there was this lawlessness and this violence. 1220 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,760 Speaker 1: I could break it at any moment. And that's why 1221 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: when the Central Park jogger case happened, where a young 1222 01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 1: woman who was jogging in the park was just viciously, brutally, 1223 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:42,080 Speaker 1: horrifically beaten to within an inch of her life, raped horribly. 1224 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: The whole the whole incident just appalled and shocked the city. 1225 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,679 Speaker 1: And you had these this group of of they were kids, 1226 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: I mean, they were young, young, predominantly black. I think 1227 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,799 Speaker 1: one of them was Hispanic men who were all arrested 1228 01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:05,439 Speaker 1: and prosecuted and convicted for their role in the Central 1229 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:10,800 Speaker 1: Park jogger case. And now Hollywood has decided that this 1230 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: is all a racial injustice, and this is something that 1231 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 1: we have to we have to look back on and 1232 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:20,600 Speaker 1: have a full accounting of the racism that led to 1233 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 1: this outcome. I mean, I'm here to tell you that 1234 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,400 Speaker 1: based on the facts as I know them, it could 1235 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,120 Speaker 1: not be more clear to me that the people that 1236 01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:34,560 Speaker 1: did this were the people who were initially arrested and convicted, 1237 01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:40,599 Speaker 1: and that politics, not the justice system, dictated that they 1238 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:45,320 Speaker 1: would be quote exonerated, and this has now turned into 1239 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,760 Speaker 1: a disgraceful injustice that we are we are to treat 1240 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 1: these individuals like they are civil rights heroes, and I 1241 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,680 Speaker 1: give when they are anything but that they committed a 1242 01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,599 Speaker 1: Haines sack. I mean, I know there were fourteen fifteen. 1243 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 1: One was sixteen years old when they were a part 1244 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,920 Speaker 1: of this. But if a sixteen year old holds a 1245 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: woman down while she's being rape, I want that sixteen 1246 01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:14,759 Speaker 1: year old to suffer very serious consequences, decades in prison 1247 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 1: at a minimum. That's what I believe should happen. And 1248 01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 1: there are very few voices right now, because there's such 1249 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,439 Speaker 1: a breathtaking rewriting of history that's going on here, there 1250 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: are very few voices that will speak honestly about this case. 1251 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 1: And that's why I just so appreciate and I'll reach out. 1252 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 1: She's tough to get on radio sometimes she's a very 1253 01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: busy lady. But I really do appreciate the work that 1254 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: Ann Coulter does on this because she'll just tell you 1255 01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,320 Speaker 1: this is all a lie, folks, This is a lie. 1256 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,439 Speaker 1: Then a whole generation now that wasn't around during the 1257 01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 1: Central Park jogger case, that doesn't have any that doesn't 1258 01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 1: have any connection in any knowledge of what New York 1259 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,400 Speaker 1: City was like at the time and what the atmosphere was. 1260 01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: They are being told old through movies, through Hollywood, through Netflix, 1261 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 1: and now that the press and these different I think 1262 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,280 Speaker 1: there's a Ken Burns documentary, and it as well that 1263 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 1: this was essentially racism, that the Central Park jogger case 1264 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,280 Speaker 1: was about racism from the police force, that they just 1265 01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:20,320 Speaker 1: grabbed whatever black men they could to pin it on 1266 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 1: and they coerced confessions and this was an injustice. The 1267 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,559 Speaker 1: injustice is that these men are now being treated like 1268 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,200 Speaker 1: heroes and are given tens of millions of dollars for 1269 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 1: being a part of one of the most heinous acts 1270 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: that anybody can think of. In the recent history of 1271 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: New York City. That's the injustice and we all need 1272 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,280 Speaker 1: to be very clear on that. I watched this play 1273 01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: out and I think to myself, how long is it 1274 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,919 Speaker 1: before the narrative of the OJ Simpson case turns into 1275 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: OJ was really innocent? You see. It's just that there 1276 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 1: were all these very racist white people in the District 1277 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: Attorney's office in Los Ange Jellis County, and they tried 1278 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,320 Speaker 1: to pin it on OJ, who was an innocent man. 1279 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: You hear me say that, and you probably think that's absurd. Buck. 1280 01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:10,599 Speaker 1: Everyone knows OJ's guilty. Well at the time, everybody knew 1281 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:14,000 Speaker 1: that these young men were guilty too. These young boys, 1282 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 1: they were boys at the time when they were arrested, 1283 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 1: fourteen years old. They were guilty. What's the evidence for this? 1284 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,479 Speaker 1: Ane's got a column out today that picks that picks 1285 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,639 Speaker 1: from important evidence in this trial. I mean, a few 1286 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,080 Speaker 1: things that we all need to know before we even 1287 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: get into the evidence. Is that one Michael Bloomberg, whom 1288 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: I worked for at the NYPD, he refused to give 1289 01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 1: these individuals any money from the city, and the City 1290 01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,880 Speaker 1: of New York paid forty million dollars as soon as 1291 01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 1: de Blasio came into office. That was just a payment, 1292 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 1: that was just essentially a white guilt payment from Deblasio 1293 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: to try and buy support from the minority community, to 1294 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,160 Speaker 1: try to buy support from white liberals who always feel 1295 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,640 Speaker 1: guilt in any of these these situations. They feel like 1296 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 1: there's something that they've they have to atone for, they 1297 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:10,680 Speaker 1: have to make up for it, even if they had 1298 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. So here's some of what 1299 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,679 Speaker 1: Anne talks about on this column today. And you really 1300 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 1: need to know this because you're you're being lied to 1301 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,200 Speaker 1: you right now about the Central Park five. I mean, 1302 01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,920 Speaker 1: these these kids were out there and the Anna isn't 1303 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,559 Speaker 1: even get into all the evidence against the First of all, 1304 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,320 Speaker 1: they were out there attacking people. They put people in 1305 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,599 Speaker 1: the hospital that weren't even this woman. They were out 1306 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,440 Speaker 1: there engaging in gang violence effectively in the park at night, attacking, 1307 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:44,000 Speaker 1: attacking people, mugging people. So these are not these were 1308 01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,680 Speaker 1: not these were not good kids. Start. Let's start with that. 1309 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,920 Speaker 1: Let's understand these were not kids that were pulled out 1310 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:51,680 Speaker 1: of their beds at night and made to, you know, 1311 01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,720 Speaker 1: confess to something they had nothing to do with. They 1312 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 1: were in the park, they were attacking people. Now that 1313 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:58,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they were guilty of a gang rape. 1314 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,160 Speaker 1: But let's just understand they were in the park that 1315 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 1: night and they were attacking people, So they were criminals. 1316 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 1: They were criminals. Attacking somebody's a criminal act. So the 1317 01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: question is just what degree of criminal are we really 1318 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 1: talking about here? Here's what Anne writes. The five accused rapists, 1319 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:23,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Richardson, Anton McCrary, A McCray, Raymond Santana, Yusuf Salam, 1320 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: and Carrie Wise were convicted of the nineteen eighty nine 1321 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,360 Speaker 1: Central Park rape, as well as other assaults in the 1322 01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 1: park that night. They were quote exonerated thirteen years later, 1323 01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 1: and more than a decade after that, paid forty million 1324 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: dollars by the City of New York to settle a 1325 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:42,919 Speaker 1: malicious prosecution case within months of Buildablasia becoming mayor, despite 1326 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:47,519 Speaker 1: city lawyer's confidence that they would win at trial. Today, 1327 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: they are treated as civil rights heroes to Hollywood airheads 1328 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 1: and others completely unfamiliar with the facts of the case. 1329 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:59,680 Speaker 1: So here is some of the evidence against them. You 1330 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 1: know what, team, let me let's hit a quick take, 1331 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 1: a quick breather. I want to come back on the 1332 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:04,960 Speaker 1: other side here, and I want to I want to 1333 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:07,200 Speaker 1: work through the piece of evidence that are in the 1334 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:11,439 Speaker 1: record that these young men initially were convicted based on, 1335 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,920 Speaker 1: and then we can all come to our own decisions 1336 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:19,600 Speaker 1: as to whether this is just the most despicable rewriting 1337 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:22,240 Speaker 1: of history that's going on, and that to me seems 1338 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,320 Speaker 1: quite quite clear. But let me come back to the 1339 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 1: start of this break and we'll talk about what is 1340 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,320 Speaker 1: the evidence of guilt of the so called Central Park Five. 1341 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: Stay with me, all right, team, We're talking about the 1342 01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:38,920 Speaker 1: evidence in the Central Park Jogger case that it involves 1343 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 1: the Central Park Five as they are now known, And 1344 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,600 Speaker 1: I want you to really think about how could it 1345 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 1: be possible that this evidence is what it is. But 1346 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:55,000 Speaker 1: now we are supposed to believe that these these men, 1347 01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 1: who at the time we're boys, were teenagers, were not 1348 01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,719 Speaker 1: involved in the raven Keep in mind, if you hold 1349 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: somebody down during a rape, even if you're not the 1350 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 1: one who does the penetration, you are culpable. You are 1351 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:10,719 Speaker 1: guilty of that rape. That is the way the law sees, 1352 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,479 Speaker 1: at least law in New York in New York State. 1353 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,439 Speaker 1: So there's not this Oh, they were just there, you know, 1354 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,280 Speaker 1: holding her down while this was happening. By the way, 1355 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,200 Speaker 1: just as a as a little bit of a fair 1356 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: warning here some of this. I'm not going to use 1357 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:30,719 Speaker 1: any improper words, but this is tough stuff to hear about. 1358 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: So just a little bit of a content warning on that. 1359 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,200 Speaker 1: So he mentioned the names of the boys, Kevin Richardson, 1360 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:40,519 Speaker 1: Anton McCray, Raymond Santana, Yusuf Salam and carry wise are 1361 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: those in the names. Here's some of the evidence that 1362 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:47,040 Speaker 1: Ann Coulter has pulled together on her in her most 1363 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:52,640 Speaker 1: recent column dealing with this issue. Santana was one of 1364 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 1: the first boys picked up in the dark the night 1365 01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,719 Speaker 1: of the attacks on April nineteenth, nineteen eighty nine. While 1366 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: being driven to the precinct, he blurted out, quote, I 1367 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the rape. All I did 1368 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 1: was feel the woman's blank. The police didn't even know 1369 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,960 Speaker 1: at that point that there had been a jogger even 1370 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 1: found that the police knew nothing about the rape when 1371 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:26,680 Speaker 1: he said that. So in the record, we now have 1372 01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,560 Speaker 1: a teenager in the park that night, picked up in 1373 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 1: the park, who says he's obviously scared because he realizes 1374 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,479 Speaker 1: that he might be in trouble for something he doesn't 1375 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: know what, doesn't know what the police know. He says, 1376 01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:40,880 Speaker 1: I didn't rape her. I just felt her. I just 1377 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 1: felt her chest. It's a very strange thing to say 1378 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,880 Speaker 1: for an innocent young man who wasn't there to nothing 1379 01:22:47,880 --> 01:22:49,479 Speaker 1: to do with it, right, that's a that's a very 1380 01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: weird thing for him to have said. Richardson quote road 1381 01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,799 Speaker 1: to the precinct with another boy who announced the police 1382 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that he knew who the murder, naming Anton McCrary I mcray. 1383 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Richardson concurred, saying, yeah, that's who did it. Keep in 1384 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: mind the police did not know about the jogger yet. 1385 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:19,360 Speaker 1: Over the next five days, five teenage boys gave detailed 1386 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,479 Speaker 1: confessions about the attack on the woman, as well as 1387 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:24,680 Speaker 1: the other attacks. All five made their confessions in the 1388 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:31,639 Speaker 1: presence of their parents or guardians. It is absolute madness 1389 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,840 Speaker 1: to imagine these officers did anything to coerce these confessions. 1390 01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,200 Speaker 1: Culter rights. When the boys confessed, No one, not that 1391 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm not the prosecutors, not the police interviewing them, had 1392 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,519 Speaker 1: any idea whether the jogger would emerge from her coma 1393 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: remembering everything. Mercifully, she remembered nothing Why on earth would 1394 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 1: cops bully five random teenagers into false confessions knowing the 1395 01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,720 Speaker 1: victim might wake up at any moment and announced my 1396 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 1: boyfriend did it. That would be rather awkward for any 1397 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 1: cop who'd gotten someone else to confess. Does anybody want 1398 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 1: to try to explain that one? So these confessions were 1399 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:15,240 Speaker 1: allegedly coerced. They were coerced in the presence of adult 1400 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 1: relatives of the accused, and the police would have been 1401 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,720 Speaker 1: coercing them with the possibility that the woman who was 1402 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 1: in a coma therefore was alive and still did live 1403 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,400 Speaker 1: after this incident, could have woken up and destroyed all 1404 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 1: the confessions that they had allegedly coerced. Right, because they 1405 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 1: weren't coerced. Folks, We're not idiots, right, We all understand this. 1406 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:44,360 Speaker 1: They were not coerced. These kids admitted it. They admitted 1407 01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: that they had a role in this. But there's more. 1408 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 1: The police had incriminating testimony from friends and acquaintances of 1409 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: the defendants. Quote Dennis Comedo, one of the boys who 1410 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,360 Speaker 1: was part of the larger group, told the police that 1411 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,400 Speaker 1: when he ran in Richardson in the park that night, 1412 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 1: he'd said, quote, we just raped somebody, Carrie Wise, told 1413 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 1: a friend's sister, Melody Jackson, that he didn't rape the jogger, 1414 01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,760 Speaker 1: He only quote held her legs down while Kevin Richardson 1415 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 1: blanked her. Jackson volunteered this information to police, thinking it 1416 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,439 Speaker 1: would help Wise. That's right. Somebody thought, oh, I'm gonna 1417 01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: help my friend out by telling the cops, Well, he 1418 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: didn't actually rape her, he just held her down. Was 1419 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 1: she was she part of the coerced confession too? I 1420 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:37,479 Speaker 1: just want to know. Was that was that the big, bad, 1421 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:43,920 Speaker 1: mean white cops that were doing that? Okay? Two of 1422 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Wise his friends, Carrie Wise, remember, one of the cues, 1423 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 1: said the next day he told them, you heard about 1424 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: that woman that was beat up and raped the park 1425 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 1: last night. That was us. Another boy arrested for the 1426 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,440 Speaker 1: attacks but not the rape, told the detectives on videotape 1427 01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,120 Speaker 1: that he overheard Santana and a friend and laughing in 1428 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 1: the park about how they'd quote made a woman bleed. 1429 01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 1: The defendants also new facts about the attack that only 1430 01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:16,439 Speaker 1: someone who had been there could possibly know. Two of 1431 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,759 Speaker 1: the boys, Santana and Richardson, independently pointed out the exact 1432 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 1: location where the rape had occurred wide Wise told the 1433 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,040 Speaker 1: detective interviewing him that someone he thought was named Rudy 1434 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:32,839 Speaker 1: had stolen the joggers walkman. The officer notes state quote 1435 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:40,320 Speaker 1: persons present when girl raped Rudy took walkman. At that point, 1436 01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 1: the jogger was still in a coma. Police investigators had 1437 01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 1: no way of knowing that she'd been carrying a walkman. 1438 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,320 Speaker 1: Thirteen years later, the sixth rapist, Matthias Reyes, the only 1439 01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,040 Speaker 1: rapist according to Hollywood and former District Attorney Robert Morgenthaw, 1440 01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: told police that in addition to raping the jogger, he 1441 01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:02,760 Speaker 1: had stolen her walkman. Someone explained to me, how would 1442 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 1: the cops be so slick, so smooth in they're set 1443 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:10,439 Speaker 1: up here that they would have contemporaneous notes about somebody 1444 01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,679 Speaker 1: at the attack stealing or walkman, and then only thirteen 1445 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: years later did they have anybody confirming that, yes, in fact, 1446 01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 1: they stole a walkman. Unless the kids who were saying 1447 01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 1: they were there at the time knew that this guy 1448 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:30,559 Speaker 1: stole or walkman. These people were part of a vicious 1449 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:37,400 Speaker 1: gang rape less than two miles from where I grew up, 1450 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,800 Speaker 1: right in an area where I spent many years of 1451 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:47,760 Speaker 1: my life playing sports, going for walks. They were a 1452 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,759 Speaker 1: part of a heinous incident, and now they're being treated 1453 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 1: as heroes. There was no adjudication of their innocence. There 1454 01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: was just DNA exoneration. That is an exoneration and a 1455 01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,880 Speaker 1: politicized decision by a mayor who is a left wing 1456 01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:10,280 Speaker 1: idiot to write a massive check to them. And now 1457 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: you have Hollywood all jumping on this bandwagon too. There 1458 01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 1: is real racism in America. There is a long history 1459 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,760 Speaker 1: of very real and very disgraceful racism in this country. 1460 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:28,160 Speaker 1: When the left creates stories like this, they undermine our 1461 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,880 Speaker 1: ability to see and tackle and deal with the real 1462 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,000 Speaker 1: racings out that's out there. This was not a case 1463 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 1: of racism. This wasn't just the police acting out and 1464 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 1: grabbing five black boys to make an example of them. 1465 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 1: These people confessed they were guilty. They did a horrible thing. 1466 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 1: And now the media that is so unconcerned with real 1467 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:56,360 Speaker 1: innocence or guilt pat themselves on the shoulders because they 1468 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 1: say that this is now justice. This is a grave 1469 01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:01,759 Speaker 1: injustice that is being done with this rewriting of history 1470 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,120 Speaker 1: of the Central Park. Five very important question I'm about 1471 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:09,640 Speaker 1: to pose to all of you, what is your comfort 1472 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:13,840 Speaker 1: food of choice? Now? I can't necessarily hear your answers, 1473 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 1: although you could all write into me on Facebook dot 1474 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:21,040 Speaker 1: com slashbuck Sexton. That's one way to go, Mark, what 1475 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:24,599 Speaker 1: is your comfort food of choice? Don't think, just give 1476 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,479 Speaker 1: me the answer. The first thing that popped into my 1477 01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:31,400 Speaker 1: head was mac and cheese. Very solid choice, very solid 1478 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,120 Speaker 1: I mac and cheese. I think I have to put 1479 01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,920 Speaker 1: in my number two spot. I do love and people 1480 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: super poking to you mac and cheese. There's excellent gluten 1481 01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 1: free mac and cheese. It's all over the place. It's 1482 01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,839 Speaker 1: very easy to find. It's very good. It tastes exactly 1483 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,640 Speaker 1: the same. Some of you're saying, no, it doesn't. I'm 1484 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,280 Speaker 1: telling you it does. Excellent mac and cheese in the 1485 01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 1: gluten free community. Does gluten free you get to call 1486 01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 1: itself a community? Now? I hope so. But the different 1487 01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:04,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty candidates have had their various comfort foods of 1488 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:10,760 Speaker 1: choice compiled here by The New York Times. And there 1489 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 1: are some excellent choices, and there are some choices that 1490 01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 1: are so terrible. It's important we talk about them because 1491 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 1: it tells you a lot about the candidate that would 1492 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,240 Speaker 1: ever say such a thing. I mean, I think the 1493 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 1: winner is Kamala Harris who said fries, because that's mine 1494 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,599 Speaker 1: as well. French fries, for me, are the perfect food. 1495 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,559 Speaker 1: I love French fries. I eat them too often. I'd 1496 01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,960 Speaker 1: probably be about five or ten pounds lighter if I 1497 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 1: did not eat French fries because I just love French 1498 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 1: fries and it's a weakness. French fries, chocolate, I got 1499 01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 1: a few things, but French fries are very high on 1500 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 1: my list. It reminds me when I was a teenager, 1501 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,799 Speaker 1: people say, don't eat chocolate or French fries, you'll get pimples. 1502 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:54,439 Speaker 1: Such a stupid wives tale. Has nothing to do with anything. 1503 01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 1: It's hormonal and oil and secretion on the skin base 1504 01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:00,320 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with chocolate or french But 1505 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: did you ever hear that mark was or is that 1506 01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 1: my just tool? I definitely heard that, Yeah, right, don't 1507 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: eat chocolate you'll get ziz. It's not true. There's no 1508 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 1: basis and science for that whatsoever. People are just absurd. 1509 01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just because people want to be 1510 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 1: mean to teenagers all the time. They'll tell us not 1511 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,800 Speaker 1: to have any fun. Uh, so Warren said fries, which 1512 01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 1: is a very solid choice. Mark said mac and cheese, 1513 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,160 Speaker 1: also very solid, but no one on this list said 1514 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,559 Speaker 1: mac and cheese. I'm sorry, Harris said fries. Warren said 1515 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,920 Speaker 1: chips and guac. Chips and guac. That's now, first of all, 1516 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,000 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren. Once again, I'm just saying cultural appropriation from 1517 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:37,040 Speaker 1: Lizabeth Warren, culturally appropriating from Mexico. But chips and guac 1518 01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 1: is a very solid choice. Buddha Judge said beef jerky, which, okay, 1519 01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a beef jerky guy, but you know, he's 1520 01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:51,000 Speaker 1: from Indiana and he served overseas and they probably ate 1521 01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot of beef jerky. I can I can respect that. 1522 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 1: Jillah Brand Kristen Jillibrand said whiskey. She's just trying to 1523 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,639 Speaker 1: sound cool, not think that that is our comfort food. 1524 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 1: But that's a very Gilibrand answer. What can I say 1525 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,240 Speaker 1: that will make people think I'm more interesting than I am? 1526 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Tulsi Gabbard said vegan cupcakes, which I can believe. I 1527 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,320 Speaker 1: can believe that that's something that she's really into vegan 1528 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,680 Speaker 1: cupcakes or I've had vegan cupcakes that are good. You know, 1529 01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,200 Speaker 1: the thing is. I don't know if people who are 1530 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: vegan or people who are keto are more excited about 1531 01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:30,080 Speaker 1: telling you their dietary restrictions and plans, but there's keto 1532 01:32:30,120 --> 01:32:35,520 Speaker 1: and vegan people. And then Klobaschar said a baked potato, 1533 01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:40,320 Speaker 1: which that's you know. I think Klobaschar's candidacy is about 1534 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,120 Speaker 1: as exciting as a baked potato. But the worst dancer 1535 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,240 Speaker 1: on here, well, the second worst answer was Mary and Williamson, 1536 01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 1: who said quote, I have no comfort food, which is 1537 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,680 Speaker 1: such an annoying and weird thing to say. I mean, 1538 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 1: everyone has some kind of a comfort food. But the 1539 01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:59,840 Speaker 1: single worst answer given by a candidate who should be 1540 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,479 Speaker 1: doing so much better than he is, but when he 1541 01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,160 Speaker 1: says things like this, it's clear to me why he's 1542 01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 1: not doing better than he is. The worst answer on here, 1543 01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: Corey Booker said, veggis. That's disgusting. Veggis what is wrong 1544 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: with him? Veggis are not a com First of all, 1545 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,639 Speaker 1: veggis is so broad that it doesn't even mean anything, 1546 01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,760 Speaker 1: saying well, veggies are not a comfort food. I know 1547 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,000 Speaker 1: he's a is he a vegetarian? I think he's a vegan. Actually, 1548 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: that's all you have to know. I you know, I 1549 01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 1: don't think I think that this country could handle somebody 1550 01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 1: who was an atheist to be president long before they 1551 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,479 Speaker 1: could handle a vegan, because at least with an atheist, 1552 01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:45,599 Speaker 1: you know what's going on vegans? I don't know. Something 1553 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 1: something funky there, something I'm inevitably going to get people 1554 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 1: reading to me. Who are vegans listening to the show. 1555 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,760 Speaker 1: What's wrong with you? Buck? I'm just kidding. I love 1556 01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:56,519 Speaker 1: you vegans. Calm down, and you love yourselves, that's for sure, 1557 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,200 Speaker 1: because you like to talk about your veganism. Oh we'll 1558 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:19,479 Speaker 1: be right back, team Buck. It's time for roll call. Team. 1559 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,799 Speaker 1: Sorry if my voice is a little bit less powerful 1560 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: than it usually is. I managed to get a cold 1561 01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,320 Speaker 1: in mid June. We look up this morning. I was like, 1562 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't understand. How do I have a cold. This 1563 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. I know that it's a virus 1564 01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the temperature outside, but 1565 01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 1: who gets a cold virus in June? I'm uh, it 1566 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,839 Speaker 1: is what it is? Facebook dot com, slash Buck Sexton, 1567 01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:45,120 Speaker 1: that's where you throw the roll call noise and let's 1568 01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 1: get into it. Owen right, Hey, Buck, My eleven year 1569 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,960 Speaker 1: old son has named his baseball player for the PS 1570 01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:55,400 Speaker 1: four game The Show twenty eighteen. He's named the player 1571 01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 1: Buck Shields High. Well, that's awesome, Owen. It's a great name. 1572 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:06,519 Speaker 1: It's a strong name. It's a name that people will remember, hopefully, 1573 01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 1: so I appreciate that. I'm not even sure if it's 1574 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,559 Speaker 1: named for me, but I'll take it. I'll take it. 1575 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 1: It's a good name. You gotta you gotta lean into it. Though. 1576 01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 1: If your name is Buck, you can't shy away from it. 1577 01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,880 Speaker 1: There's no easy way to be Buck. You got you 1578 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: gotta be Buck all the time. Claudia, Hello Buck. Just 1579 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,400 Speaker 1: a quick note regarding free Medicare for all, it is 1580 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 1: not free. My husband, who will be turning sixty five 1581 01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:34,120 Speaker 1: in November, has a work history of fifty years and 1582 01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,120 Speaker 1: is paid into the Medicare fund. He will be eligible 1583 01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,280 Speaker 1: for coverage in November, and the governmentill begin automatically taking 1584 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight dollars per month from his 1585 01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,639 Speaker 1: Social Security check, as done to all persons on Medicare. 1586 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,639 Speaker 1: In addition, Medicare does not cover all his health needs. 1587 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,600 Speaker 1: We will need to add an additional supplement at a 1588 01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,800 Speaker 1: few hundred dollars a month. Again, Medicare is not free 1589 01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,840 Speaker 1: and does not cover all one's needs. Claudia, I know 1590 01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,880 Speaker 1: that that is all true, and I appreciate you walking 1591 01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,240 Speaker 1: us all through some of the realities of the Medicare program. 1592 01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: But that's why I've always said that what Bernie Sanders 1593 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:12,440 Speaker 1: has often talked about is really a true single payer program, 1594 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,400 Speaker 1: which is different than Medicare because Medicare has a lot 1595 01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:19,479 Speaker 1: of cost sharing. You spend money from your tax or 1596 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 1: you pay money through your taxes into Medicare for a 1597 01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:26,680 Speaker 1: long time. And then beyond that there is also a 1598 01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:32,960 Speaker 1: state and local government that excuse me, that will be 1599 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 1: a part of the whole Medicare situation. So there's a 1600 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,519 Speaker 1: bunch of different things coming together there. And you are 1601 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,600 Speaker 1: right that Medicare is not It's certainly not free, and 1602 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:47,080 Speaker 1: it does not cover everything. Fill up. A few days ago, 1603 01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,840 Speaker 1: you were searching for Howard Dean's yeah A moment. The 1604 01:36:50,920 --> 01:36:54,160 Speaker 1: reason for his instantaneous implosion was it reminded everyone of 1605 01:36:54,920 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 1: Slim Pickens writing an a bomb in doctor Strange Glove. Well, 1606 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 1: this is where I have to admit that I've never 1607 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:05,760 Speaker 1: seen doctor Strange Glove. So Mark, should I go back 1608 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:09,000 Speaker 1: and watch this one. Are we talking about Doctor Strange 1609 01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:12,599 Speaker 1: the Marvel movie or Doctor Strange Glove? No, Doctor Strange Glove. 1610 01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:16,120 Speaker 1: They've never heard of it. It's an older one. And 1611 01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm somebody that gets into a lot of trouble, I know, 1612 01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,840 Speaker 1: with this audience, because I think that there is a 1613 01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 1: bias in favor of older movies. I think that people 1614 01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 1: tend to just assume, oh, if it's if it's an 1615 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,040 Speaker 1: old classic, then it has to still be really worth 1616 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,559 Speaker 1: watching today. Truth is that a lot of older movies 1617 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:35,080 Speaker 1: don't really hold up. I know, I know people can 1618 01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: get mad at me and say, oh, back, that's terrible 1619 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,240 Speaker 1: and how could you say such a thing, And but no, 1620 01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 1: that's that's just the way it is, folks. A lot 1621 01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,400 Speaker 1: of older movies, the acting is kind of lame. There's 1622 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:49,360 Speaker 1: just there's just stuff going on that's not it's not great. 1623 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:53,599 Speaker 1: So there there you have it. I know people get 1624 01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: mad at me, but I speak the truth. It is 1625 01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,120 Speaker 1: what I do here on the show. There's a lot 1626 01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 1: of indicating instead of act right, yeah, thank you Mark. 1627 01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,639 Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff people go, oh, it's black 1628 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 1: and white, it's got to be good. False. The storylines 1629 01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: are cheesy. It's ridiculous. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1630 01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:19,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Joey writes you just uh oh, No, 1631 01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,000 Speaker 1: Joey has fallen up on his message from yesterday. Okay, Joey, 1632 01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,759 Speaker 1: thank you. Kristin. Listen to Rush live on Newstalk twelve 1633 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,160 Speaker 1: ninety whichtop Falls and heard your Trump twenty coin commercial. 1634 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 1: So cool to hear your voice when listening to someone else. Well, 1635 01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: christ and that is cool. I'm glad that people get 1636 01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 1: to hear me on some of the other platforms out there. 1637 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. That's very cool. So yes, indeed, 1638 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:48,880 Speaker 1: James Rights, hey Buck, bring back the haya buck slap sound? 1639 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:51,280 Speaker 1: I chuckle to myself every time I hear it. Do 1640 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:56,720 Speaker 1: we have that one? Mark we hand? Exactly? There we go. 1641 01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: That's the that's got to be the buck slap sound, 1642 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:01,719 Speaker 1: even though it makes no sense, like if you're gonna 1643 01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:05,080 Speaker 1: slap somebody, I don't think you'd go hey, But that's 1644 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,200 Speaker 1: that is the buck slap because it's so powerful that 1645 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,439 Speaker 1: even though it's just a slap, you have to psych 1646 01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:17,960 Speaker 1: yourself up for it. There we go, Glenn Rights, hey Buck. 1647 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,080 Speaker 1: I live in Massachusetts and I do believe it is 1648 01:39:20,160 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 1: part of the state electoral compact. Was curious if the 1649 01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:26,280 Speaker 1: compact is constitutional, whether anyone has looked at a class 1650 01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 1: action lawsuit to revoke it. Things like this really make 1651 01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:32,080 Speaker 1: my blood boil. Anyway, great show, keep up the good work. 1652 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,920 Speaker 1: We'll Glenn, thank you so much. I don't know anything 1653 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: about the electoral Compact, so I don't have a smart 1654 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,160 Speaker 1: thing to say here. I just will say that I 1655 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,639 Speaker 1: appreciate you writing in and you listen to the show, 1656 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:49,320 Speaker 1: and you're a great guy and a great American. Michael 1657 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:52,719 Speaker 1: A right, Buck, I love these solidad O'Brien buck slap story. 1658 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: The only thing missing was the he have producer Mike 1659 01:39:57,120 --> 01:40:00,320 Speaker 1: teed up next time field tie from Lost Us. Yeah. See, 1660 01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 1: people really like it. We gotta Mark, you gotta have 1661 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,439 Speaker 1: that one ready going forward when I call for the 1662 01:40:05,439 --> 01:40:07,400 Speaker 1: buck slap, now you know, man, that's the one. So 1663 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,120 Speaker 1: that's the new buck slap. That is the one that 1664 01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 1: is the one that people like. Here we go, Robert, Hey, Buck, 1665 01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,880 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a serious conversation about reparations for 1666 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,760 Speaker 1: the descendants of slaves without turning it into a name 1667 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,760 Speaker 1: calling session. How are today's African Americans harmed by slavery. 1668 01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:31,960 Speaker 1: An argument can be made that they about whoa Okay, 1669 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna at Robert, I don't have to dive into 1670 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:40,240 Speaker 1: this one little bit more. Thank you for writing in though, Carla, 1671 01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,880 Speaker 1: hey Buck, I'm wondering if AOC truly believes all the 1672 01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 1: propaganda she is spewing her if she's just trying to 1673 01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,040 Speaker 1: get a reaction out of everyone, like a child looking 1674 01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,960 Speaker 1: for attention. I wonder if the best way for us 1675 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:54,120 Speaker 1: to handle her is to write her off and ignore her, 1676 01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:56,599 Speaker 1: dismiss her as a child, or to recognize her as 1677 01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 1: a real threat and continue to vocally oppose her. What 1678 01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:02,679 Speaker 1: your thoughts. Thank you for always speaking the truth, sending 1679 01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,479 Speaker 1: you prayers for wisdom and encouraged to keep on keeping on. Carlo, 1680 01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:07,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much for the kind note. You know, 1681 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: I think that AOC the problem with trying to ignore 1682 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,639 Speaker 1: her is that she has such a large social media 1683 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 1: following that if you ignore her, what often ends up 1684 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:22,200 Speaker 1: happening is you allow her to preach to her side unopposed. 1685 01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:24,519 Speaker 1: So I don't think that that's a good thing, because 1686 01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,280 Speaker 1: there are a lot of very impressionable Unfortunately, a lot 1687 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,479 Speaker 1: of very ignorant people out there who if they hear 1688 01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:35,519 Speaker 1: AOC able to say things without someone pointing out that 1689 01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:39,559 Speaker 1: what she says is nonsense and lies, they're more likely 1690 01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,519 Speaker 1: to believe it. So I don't think we can just 1691 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:48,639 Speaker 1: write her off. I do believe that she is the 1692 01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,280 Speaker 1: future of the Democratic Party, not necessarily just her personally, 1693 01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,240 Speaker 1: but her view of the world and the way that 1694 01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,360 Speaker 1: she approaches governance, and her thoughts on things like social 1695 01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:05,920 Speaker 1: justice and socialism and the size and mission of the state. 1696 01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,200 Speaker 1: I think that the Democratic Party is trending toward AOC 1697 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,160 Speaker 1: and not the other way around. So I don't think 1698 01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,280 Speaker 1: we can ignore her. I do think there's a little 1699 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:20,440 Speaker 1: bit of a right wing media fixation on diving into 1700 01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,400 Speaker 1: everything that she says, and occasionally it has backfired. I mean, 1701 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:27,960 Speaker 1: the people that were getting all upset about her, well, no, 1702 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,800 Speaker 1: that's not even true, because no one really got upset 1703 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:31,360 Speaker 1: about her dance video. That was a lie. That was 1704 01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,280 Speaker 1: fake news. There was I never saw a single person 1705 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,640 Speaker 1: who was upset about her having a dance video, but 1706 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:38,960 Speaker 1: the left created this all. Oh, they're just upset about 1707 01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,760 Speaker 1: her video where she's dancing. Why would anyone be upset 1708 01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:44,400 Speaker 1: about that? There's nothing people out to dance and have fun. 1709 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,800 Speaker 1: This is one thing I wish conservatives did a better 1710 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:52,680 Speaker 1: job of promoting, just as publicly as they can do 1711 01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,880 Speaker 1: as many people as they can. Conservatives want people to 1712 01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 1: have fun. I want people to enjoy themselves. I want 1713 01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,120 Speaker 1: them to enjoy their lives. I think joy is a 1714 01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,519 Speaker 1: very important part of life, and you know, I'm all 1715 01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,240 Speaker 1: for it. I like people to dance. I like people 1716 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:11,920 Speaker 1: to have fun, drink responsibly, eat delicious food, go out 1717 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:17,120 Speaker 1: see friends, you know, if you're not married, you know, 1718 01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 1: go out on dates, meet new people. You know. I'm 1719 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,840 Speaker 1: a big believer in all this. You know, the left 1720 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:27,240 Speaker 1: is able to get away with creating this, this perception 1721 01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,960 Speaker 1: that conservatives don't like fun, don't want people to smile, 1722 01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:32,759 Speaker 1: don't want people out the I don't think it's really true. 1723 01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,680 Speaker 1: And one example of all this is that all the 1724 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:39,240 Speaker 1: or one example of how this is the perception doesn't 1725 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 1: match up with the reality is that people who are conservatives, 1726 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,840 Speaker 1: and I believe this the statistic or the studies that 1727 01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,920 Speaker 1: conservatives who are married enjoy sex more than people who 1728 01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:54,560 Speaker 1: are not married. And it really makes a lot of 1729 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 1: sense when you think about it. I mean, people that 1730 01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 1: are married are going to feel more comfortable, and that's 1731 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:00,840 Speaker 1: a very important part of it. There's going to be 1732 01:44:00,920 --> 01:44:04,920 Speaker 1: much greater connection and appreciation between those individuals for what 1733 01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,720 Speaker 1: they're doing. There's not the tremendous anxiety of like what 1734 01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,000 Speaker 1: if this goes wrong or what if this person doesn't 1735 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: call me, or any of those things. So conservatives in 1736 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:14,880 Speaker 1: a lot of ways do have more fun, and we 1737 01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:18,320 Speaker 1: certainly have more fun in the realm of ideas. I 1738 01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 1: think that the funniest people I know now are all conservatives. 1739 01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the people that are the most entertaining are 1740 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,439 Speaker 1: all the funniest people I know in life. This is 1741 01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:28,680 Speaker 1: I've never really thought about this until now. All of 1742 01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:31,599 Speaker 1: my funniest friends now are conservatives, none of them. None 1743 01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:33,720 Speaker 1: of the funniest people I know are liberals. And I 1744 01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:35,600 Speaker 1: and some of the people I know who would have 1745 01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:39,400 Speaker 1: considered themselves liberal who are very funny are now pretty 1746 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,559 Speaker 1: much conservatives, And they've kind of switched over a little 1747 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:45,880 Speaker 1: bit because there's just been this change. If you're going 1748 01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,680 Speaker 1: to be a little bit provocative, a little bit contrarian, 1749 01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:53,920 Speaker 1: different in your thinking, willing to push some buttons, you're 1750 01:44:53,960 --> 01:44:57,040 Speaker 1: going to be a conservative these days because the Libs, 1751 01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,880 Speaker 1: they all they're all just repeating the same crap to 1752 01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:03,000 Speaker 1: each other all the time, and it's all very disingenuous, 1753 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,960 Speaker 1: and it's it's not clever, it's not funny. It's really 1754 01:45:05,960 --> 01:45:09,479 Speaker 1: often just quite nasty. So yeah, the funniest people I know, 1755 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,599 Speaker 1: I mean, the people that can make me laugh very 1756 01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:15,040 Speaker 1: very hard, are my friends who are a right wing 1757 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:17,759 Speaker 1: And you know, I've got a great right wing posse. 1758 01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:21,719 Speaker 1: So a lot of right wing, right wing, right wing 1759 01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:24,599 Speaker 1: squad down here in DC is a lot of fun. 1760 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:30,439 Speaker 1: Let's see here. Gina hey Buck Opera. I love opera. 1761 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,360 Speaker 1: I love a wide variety of music, from Volbeat to 1762 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:37,599 Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac to Counting Crows to def Leopard, But lately, 1763 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 1: when I'm cooking or stressed, it's labo am. I love 1764 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,480 Speaker 1: this opera. My favorite version on YouTube is with Paparatti 1765 01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:47,639 Speaker 1: the Full Opera. It's musically perfect, gets me from pasta 1766 01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,840 Speaker 1: to parmesan at a salad, Dude brusqueta, brilliant and probably 1767 01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:52,800 Speaker 1: designed that way. My next go to is Mozart the 1768 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:56,280 Speaker 1: Full Opera Requiem, darker but so moving, chow and as 1769 01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 1: always shields high. It's a nice one to end on today. Team, 1770 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,839 Speaker 1: thank you so much for hanging out with me. Always 1771 01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:02,280 Speaker 1: great to be with you. The Freedom Hut Talk to 1772 01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:03,679 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. She'll tie