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Speaker 1: Welcome back to more to it to show that text

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: and culture. Start with headline news and then journey to

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Speaker 1: deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, Marcel Swally. That

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Speaker 1: dude like blue, that sky, blue sky. I always grew

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Speaker 1: up thinking this was like Carolina blue, which is a color,

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Speaker 1: but color that came after Columbia blue, which is a

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Speaker 1: different color. But I can't lie. Carolina blue look better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see Columbia blue really up close to m Can

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Speaker 1: you add a little more blue to it? It's kind

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Speaker 1: of whitewash. All love, man, got love for you guys,

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Speaker 1: and thank you back for all the love. But you

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Speaker 1: know how we start off every show, what's up with

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Speaker 1: out and overcome their circumstances. We got stuff like this

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Speaker 1: in there, just a little tidbit, just just could be yours.

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Speaker 1: Tag it up. I played for the Pirates, didn't I?

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Speaker 1: I all right, car, all right, y'all. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: y'all what I've been up to. Yes, they had a

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Speaker 1: good meeting. Man, we got a potential partnership in the

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Speaker 1: athlete space plugged into my foundation. That's gonna help with

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Speaker 1: financial literacy and more importantly, capital access. What do they

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Speaker 1: always tell somebody who wants to start a business or

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Speaker 1: an investment. You know, you should start a business, but

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Speaker 1: never start a business with your own money, right, You

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Speaker 1: use other people's money. You leverage debt. That's something that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know and how to do.

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Speaker 1: I can't say I'm an expert on it, but I

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Speaker 1: do know there is not a negative connotation with debt.

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Speaker 1: Give you an example. This is a beautiful room inside

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Speaker 1: of a beautiful home that I ain't pay all cash for.

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Speaker 1: Why Because I'm managing debt, which is called a mortgage.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, okay, here's another one. You got a car,

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Speaker 1: you got a car payment, you're managing debt. Oh, here's

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Speaker 1: another one. You got a credit card, have you paid

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Speaker 1: it in full on balance? Maybe if you got a AMX,

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Speaker 1: you did you better. Other than that, if you have it,

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Speaker 1: you're managing debt. That's what it is. So trying to

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Speaker 1: do this and help people out in terms of managing

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Speaker 1: their debt. Other than that, y'all know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's all love around these parts. And maybe it any

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Speaker 1: biddy coming in here because they are still home on vacation.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy them public schools being they start early. They

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Speaker 1: be like, man, I don't know why, because we paying

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Speaker 1: and we're starting late. We need to start early. Get

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Speaker 1: a head storing on this edgeumacation. All right, y'all, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about some sports because Pete Carroll can't talk about

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Speaker 1: anything right now. I don't know why. Maybe because it's preseason,

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Speaker 1: maybe because they don't think much of his Seahawks. Let

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Speaker 1: me stop. But he wanted to revisit y'all know what

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Speaker 1: the fury that his team had for him when he

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Speaker 1: called that pass on four foot one in Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: forty nine. And I thought this was interesting one because

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Speaker 1: I never heard Pete Carroll talk about it. Maybe that's

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Speaker 1: so me for not watching every single interview with Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll's but this is the first time I heard him

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Speaker 1: talk about it in depth. So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: And guess we talked about it with Richard Sherman on

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Speaker 1: Sherman Sherman Sherman's podcast to discuss that infamous moment in

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Speaker 1: NFL history. Be real, godly, that's bad. I lost the

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Speaker 1: Munic City Miracle, but even that ain't as bad as

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Speaker 1: losing a Super Bowl. And in the way that they

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Speaker 1: away from winning two straight Super Bowls, those Seahawks were

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Speaker 1: dinasty instead, it just died nasty. That's one of my

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Speaker 1: old ones. I used to always say, is it a

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Speaker 1: dynasty or did they just die nasty? Like that? All right,

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Speaker 1: So that's what happened. They lost to the Patriots. Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Butler became a superstar overnight for that one play picking

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Speaker 1: the ball off, and Richard Sherman was still obviously shocked

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Speaker 1: even during this interview. But y'all remember in the moment

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Speaker 1: lot of controversy in the moment. Why is Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch Lynch Mob Lynch mob right there, hand him

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, he's the teacher's pet. We love him, and

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Speaker 1: Marshawn he too, heifey. We don't want him leading. We

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Speaker 1: don't want him be the face of this Super Bowl win.

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Speaker 1: I didn't never get I never gave that much credence.

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Speaker 1: But it was a conversation that was out there. So

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Speaker 1: Sherman and Carol talked about it. Totally cool, totally behind him,

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Speaker 1: even though you know there's still probably some pain suppressed

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Speaker 1: about it, and this is Pete. Carroll talked about his

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Speaker 1: player's feelings. He said, you guys were so mad at

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Speaker 1: me and so pissed. Now you were saying that I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of joking with him. We were hurt. Richard Sherman said,

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Speaker 1: he was like, I wish I could feel it the

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Speaker 1: way I should feel it. But you know what, that

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Speaker 1: play just happened. Pete Carroll put a stamp on it

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Speaker 1: right there and said, you gotta keep going. Ah M,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll sounds a lot like me. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell y'all why at the end of this. So on

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Speaker 1: the situation, they talked about how you guys couldn't hear

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Speaker 1: it for years. But when we got down there, if

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Speaker 1: you remember, we had one time out, and so as

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Speaker 1: soon as we got there, I said, one of these plays,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to throw it to get all four

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Speaker 1: plays because I'm always in He's basically talking about the

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Speaker 1: a chance to get all four shots. So we won

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Speaker 1: the first play, and I think what happened is Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick is late. He sends in the goal line and

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Speaker 1: we already had sent in eleven that went through the

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Speaker 1: play callers. That's what led them to throw it on

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Speaker 1: that down. It had nothing to do with anything else. Basically,

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Speaker 1: what he's saying is we got four downs, we gotta

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Speaker 1: gotta do. We gotta throw it once just to stop

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Speaker 1: the clock potentially, you know. So he's thinking that one

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Speaker 1: All right, we gotta throw it one time because we

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Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to run it four times with

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Speaker 1: goal line package? Now that makes sense on paper beyond

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Speaker 1: I don't care where you are. You're like, yo, they

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Speaker 1: got in the facts. The heavies. Y'all re seen the

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Speaker 1: goal lineage. It's like three offensive guards they made D tackles,

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Speaker 1: So you're like, yeah, they're expecting this run. All we

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Speaker 1: gotta do is drop back quick one. You think that

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Speaker 1: on paper? Obviously, situations dictate terms. So he said, look,

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Speaker 1: the philosophy of it. It was just the worst play

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Speaker 1: that could ever happen. It was the play of a lifetime,

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Speaker 1: the play of a career, for everybody's career, really, and

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Speaker 1: it turned out all of that so dark, so instantly.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's so beautiful about sports. Not so beautiful

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Speaker 1: life and death. But in sports, you could be up

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Speaker 1: here and you could be down here. Don't believe me.

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Speaker 1: A boxer who's winning the first four rounds drops that

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Speaker 1: to get throw out, to throw that hook, or trying

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Speaker 1: to throw that upper cut slight night night, just like that, right,

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Speaker 1: you can see it in any sport. You up big.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, we thought you were gonna win like a

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Speaker 1: game like this. So he said one more thing. If

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Speaker 1: one of the moments that you prepare for. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be the epitome of poise, handle it and own it.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing you can say that's gonna put it in

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Speaker 1: any other place. It was just as catastrophic as any

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Speaker 1: moment could be. But the thing was we won that game.

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Speaker 1: We had won again. The next year. We have won

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Speaker 1: again because we went back to the playoffs. Anyway, again

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Speaker 1: with all that turmoil, it was a great team, man,

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Speaker 1: we were a great team. I love this story because

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Speaker 1: one is a little more in depth than normal. Right.

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Speaker 1: I know it's old as hell, but it's still preseason football.

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Speaker 1: Not about the cover of the preseason games. Okay, Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield is the starting quarterback in Tampa. Happy now, want

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Speaker 1: a cookie? All right, man, But let's talk about when

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Speaker 1: them coaches called the wrong play. And it's so crazy

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Speaker 1: when they do that, because this one was obvious to everyone. Oh,

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Speaker 1: you call the wrong play even though it was the

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Speaker 1: right play on paper, goal line right down there, quick pass.

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Speaker 1: I mean times you've seen that tight end Gronkowski or

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Speaker 1: something he going against the gold line package. You know,

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Speaker 1: you go back to all those big plays by those

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Speaker 1: tight ends Mark Andrews right here. You're like, that's against

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Speaker 1: a heavy package a lot of times. So not the

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Speaker 1: wrong play. But we said, coach, that's the wrong play

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Speaker 1: because we don't like that result. That's the wrong result.

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Speaker 1: So how many times does that happen to me. My god,

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Speaker 1: You're sitting there and coaches like, hey, hey, stunt right,

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Speaker 1: stunt right, and you're like, we got a little more

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Speaker 1: complex terminology in there, but still stn't right. Start right,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, Okay, I'm a stunt right. I'm about

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Speaker 1: to stunt right and then tackle Barry Sanders for a

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Speaker 1: loss in the backfield. Yeah, that's what's about to happen, right, Coach, Okay,

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Speaker 1: stunt right, and you know you gotta play it off,

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Speaker 1: gotta be an actor, and then you do it. You

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Speaker 1: do your stunt and then hre go Berry. He said,

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Speaker 1: oh you stunting, watch me stunt He pounce out touch

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Speaker 1: down and you know what the announce to say, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, Barry signers a little play. Oh he gets

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Speaker 1: around while they're all touchdown, and then they replay it.

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Speaker 1: And then they showed me going in and guess what

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Speaker 1: they would say. You know, somebody like Pat Summerar or respect,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the great ones out there. They'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at this play right here and here go John Man.

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Speaker 1: Look at Wiley, where's he going? He's going and losing contained,

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Speaker 1: losing contained, losing contained. I'm like, I ain't lose contained.

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Speaker 1: My coach told me going sorry, and Barry went outside

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Speaker 1: and then not my fault. But that happens all the time, y'all.

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Speaker 1: And it's crazy because in those moments, it's like really

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Speaker 1: loud in terms of the criticism on Sunday and hella

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Speaker 1: quiet on that my bad, Wiley. I should have called

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Speaker 1: but that criticism loud to say, Hell, you be sitting

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Speaker 1: you're gonna bring this case back up. I wonder why

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Speaker 1: what triggers it? Right, you had a bigger platform when

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Speaker 1: you were at Fox, but probably can't drop that in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a halftime game of a college big game.

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Speaker 1: We got Texas Texas Tech. You over here, like, by

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Speaker 1: the way, I need my trophy back. But I have

428
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Speaker 1: been seeing billboards all around Los Angeles. So this campaign

429
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Speaker 1: for some reason is actually igniting again in terms of

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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush getting everything that he's doing or time served correct.

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Speaker 1: So I think the NC double A if they're gonna

432
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Speaker 1: stand on the principle of just pay for play, huh.

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Speaker 1: I think you need to go back to what you

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Speaker 1: guys initially charged them with. And if you do that,

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna come to the quick realization time served

436
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Speaker 1: or enough is enough if UFC, if USC can get

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Speaker 1: over it. Hey, y'all's tripping over the fact that Reggie

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Speaker 1: Bush is now way gone out of your likes. There's

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Speaker 1: more you can benefit from bringing them back in in

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Speaker 1: terms of the good graces than not. The whole landscape

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Speaker 1: has changed. I think his punishment should have changed the

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Speaker 1: Lifetime band. Nah, y'all gotta get with the times, because

443
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: the times right now will the support what Reggie Bush did,

444
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: and now y'all should support it as well. So do

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Speaker 1: you think Reggie Bush is gonna win his case, oh

446
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: two year later, ass case? Or do you think Reggie

447
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 1: Bush should have the heisman dropy returned and this record's restored.

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Speaker 1: I can't lie, and I hate to be this guy,

449
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Speaker 1: but sometimes you can be like Yo, I was too harsh.

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Speaker 1: I do it as a parent, you do it as

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Speaker 1: a friend. Like y'all went in on them, manch but

452
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: you were right, but you still went in. And now

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Speaker 1: it's time to be like, let it go, let bygones,

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00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 1: be bygones, filling that love roderk swagg away while these

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Speaker 1: YouTube membership. I'll see y'all out there getting it in jail.

456
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Speaker 1: Keep it going. Also, we got those sweep steaks on

457
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Speaker 1: Project Transition dot org. I gotta do it. Just hit

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Speaker 1: the donate mutton or just go to the bottom into

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Speaker 1: your email so I can know you part of the team,

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be enter to win stuff like this.

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Speaker 1: Two families already won four tickets to Chargers game. Yeah,

462
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Speaker 1: they weren't gonna go until they hooked up with the foundation.

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Speaker 1: Who gonna hook up with Mark Gaston, who gonna let

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Speaker 1: their hair down and get a sack? That's who I

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Speaker 1: want to see over the Project Transition dot org. Donate

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Speaker 1: and make sure it's a recurrent donation. Even four penny.

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Speaker 1: I take a penny all the time. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Shikari Richardson. Oh yes, don't call her the comeback.

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Speaker 1: She been running for years and she's finally back. Oh Man,

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Speaker 1: winning her star study one hundred meters at the World. Yes,

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Speaker 1: y'all know, track and field is my heart, my favorite sport,

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Speaker 1: and yes I saw it. The reason I didn't do

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Speaker 1: it yesterday because I didn't want to just talk about

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Speaker 1: Shakhari in terms of her winning one hundred. I wanted

475
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Speaker 1: to talk grander about what she means too a lot

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Speaker 1: of people, and that includes Americans, that includes young women,

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Speaker 1: That includes young little black girls, that includes your little

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Speaker 1: track girls. All the lanes they be trying to carve

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Speaker 1: her up into. We're gonna talk through that, all right,

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Speaker 1: So Monday night, half a world away Chikari is that

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Speaker 1: you Oh my god, she won gold medal. And what's

482
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: crazy about her winning the goals is that she qualified

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Speaker 1: for the finals on time. Y'all do know track like that?

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00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: Basically you want to win your heat or get the

485
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: top two finished basically so that you guarantee the advance

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Speaker 1: in the rounds. You never want to be this person, well,

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Speaker 1: actually you don't want to be the person who got last,

488
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Speaker 1: but then you don't want to be also the person

489
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Speaker 1: who was waiting because your time is close, and you

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00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: got third or fourth, You're like, if I gotta get in,

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Speaker 1: And that's why she was way out in lane nine, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's what happened. Now she gets in that race

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Speaker 1: two sick and she won ten sixty five goodness, And

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Speaker 1: not only was that a world championship record, tied for

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Speaker 1: the best time in the world this year, she's number

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Speaker 1: one in the worlds and she just won the world championship. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Chakari's back, y'all. It's just that simple a track. Like

498
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: all we guys the Olympics every four years. Everything else

499
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Speaker 1: is just world championships, and you better show some respect

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Speaker 1: to these invitationals. Shikari Richardson beat Shelley and Fraser Price,

501
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Speaker 1: and she be Shrika Jackson, five time world champion, Shelley Anne.

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Speaker 1: Let me put some respect on her name. So she

503
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Speaker 1: says this, and this is what I love about her,

504
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Speaker 1: and this is why we're gonna go in on this.

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00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: I'm not back, I'm better. Okay. She been saying that

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Speaker 1: mantra for a while and I'm listening and now I'm

507
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: seeing that they are matched together to her. Okay. So

508
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: she soaked it all in, surround herself with supporters and

509
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: tried to drown out the rest. That was her process

510
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Speaker 1: from when she was down and out to rising back

511
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Speaker 1: to the top. She said, I would say, never give up,

512
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: never allowed media, never allow outsiders, never allow anything but

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Speaker 1: yourself and your faith to find who you are. I

514
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Speaker 1: would say, always fight, no matter what fight. Okay, Now

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Speaker 1: what was she fighting and why was she fighting? Well,

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00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: she was up there in Eugene, Oregon, somewhere I've run before,

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Speaker 1: been on that track many a times, and it was

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Speaker 1: her role to the Tokyo Olympics, Tokyo Games. But then

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Speaker 1: she tested positive for marijuana, remember that, right, And then

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Speaker 1: it became a litmus test. It became more than just

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Speaker 1: you tested positive marijuana, you can't running the race. A

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Speaker 1: lot of issues came out of that race fairness and

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Speaker 1: then also we were talking about the rule book. We

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Speaker 1: were talking about as this is legal or not, and

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Speaker 1: what should be the punishment of it, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversations on what's right and what's wrong. So she

527
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: became the poster child for something much bigger than somebody

528
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: who just failed the marijuana tests. Let's be real about it, okay.

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Speaker 1: So then that debate went on and on and on

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Speaker 1: marijuana is not a performance and answer, Oh you won.

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Speaker 1: If it's not, why she taking it? You know what

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00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: I mean? We had those kind of debates and it's

533
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Speaker 1: still on the band list, It's still there, y'all. So

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00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: then it was like, well, y'all just mad because uh,

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Speaker 1: she young, and she outspoken, and she black, and she American,

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00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, like even Americans was like looking at the

537
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: world trying to clown. And then within America, we was like, oh, y'all,

538
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: just maggat. She young and black and she just don't

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00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: give a damn right all that stuff. So we talked

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Speaker 1: through that as well. Now after her test and then

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Speaker 1: the depth of her mother. Remember it was due to

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Speaker 1: the recent death of her mother. She said, it's why

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00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: she was chewing marijuana, coping mechanism. She said. She was

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Speaker 1: in no man's land, both on the track and off

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Speaker 1: the track. Okay, So now let's got to get to

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Speaker 1: the meat of this situation of why people really went

547
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Speaker 1: there on her. First of all, let me just say

548
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: clearly congratulations on her redemption story, seriously, because I was

549
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: critical of her because one gonna be messing with my sport,

550
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: not gonna be stopped, you know. I got levity all

551
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: the time. Seriously, nothing's worse than waste it. You can

552
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: say talent, you can say potential, whatever it is, nothing's

553
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: worse than wasted. You know what, I take somebody who's bad.

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00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: You bad. I look at little Timmy dog. It ain't

555
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: gonna work, Timmy. You got two left ankles and it

556
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna work, bro, But it's okay.

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00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: Keep participating, learn the life lessons to sport. Ain't no

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00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: way it's gonna work. I got kids on my team

559
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: literally that don't even know how to run. Seriously, Like

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Speaker 1: when they run their fastest, it's like, it's like that

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00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: for real. I'm not even clowning, and I don't laugh

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00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: at them. I don't clown them. In my head, I'm like,

563
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: you're bad. You know you won't get the ball. You're blocking, Okay, distraction,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna teach you in other ways. Because I don't

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00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: want to discourage you. I give him the ball. All

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Speaker 1: them kids that run like this, gonna go give me

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Speaker 1: that flag and slam it down. He gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: I can't run it. I'm like, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: reinforce that, so I don't reinforce the negativity. But that's

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Speaker 1: just bad. What's worse is wasted somebody who performs like

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Speaker 1: him every time I give him the ball, and I

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00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: know he good, but he just getting caught up. He

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00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: ain't paying attention, he don't know the place. He's worse

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Speaker 1: than that. Nothing's worse than wasted somebody who could be

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Speaker 1: much better. And look at this dude down there with

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Speaker 1: people I know sh'ld be down there frankly to be real. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's where Shakari went with me knowing how damn

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Speaker 1: good she was. Shakari, you're not going to the Olympics

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Speaker 1: because of a failed drug test. Not the smartest thing

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Speaker 1: to do. Dumb as hell. But hey, I mean, why

581
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: is it dumb? I tell you it's dumb because you

582
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Speaker 1: only got four years. You gotta wait four years for

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Speaker 1: ten and a half seconds to get glory, to set

584
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Speaker 1: yourself up in life. That's what you're working out for.

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00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: That's what you are doing all this and gearing up

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00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: for four years, and then in this moment, that's what happened.

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00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: That's fine. You could say it's a coping mechanism for

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00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: a mom I would found other ways to cope. I

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00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: lost my mom too, if y'all want to understand me,

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00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: so anyway, forget that. Then you come back and you lose,

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00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: not only lose, you get last place. And nothing's worse

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Speaker 1: than wasted, except maybe you know what's battling. What's worse

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Speaker 1: than wasted? A loud loser? Yes, you haven't been with

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Speaker 1: somebody who lost and they won't shut up you like dog,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a damn what you used to do.

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Speaker 1: Shut your hands up. And that's what Shekari found herself. Now,

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Speaker 1: I understand a lot of things got conflated because she

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Speaker 1: had the nails, she had the hair, she had to clothes,

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Speaker 1: she had to make up, and everybody she's black, and

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00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: oh she's loud. Everybody was going all them other places,

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: getting distracted. But y'all forgot, for real what this was

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00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: about her about? No weed conversation like that? A weed

603
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: conversation is it happens in track a lot all the time.

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Guess what happens suspended for six months? Oh boy, because

605
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: y'all don't even care about track? Why did this blow up?

606
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Because y'all cared about more than that. It wasn't a

607
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: weed conversation. It wasn't she's a loud black woman conversation,

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00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: in your face black woman conversation. Nope, nope, nope. It

609
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: was a conversation of values, and we saw our values

610
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: go in conflict with each other. Let's talk through that.

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Speaker 1: An olympian, potential olympian that's representing what this country, American values.

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00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about those. These kids like Chikari, they got

613
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: it messed up. Why because they listened to the Migos faithfully. Literally,

614
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: I love the Migos. I feel like I discovered the Migos.

615
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: They used to be on Sports Nation with us before

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00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: they even blew up. I used to hang out with

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Speaker 1: Migos for real, and I love they first album. I

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Speaker 1: love All, but that first one was insane. Still could

619
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Speaker 1: put that on Chinatown right now. But they messed it up.

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Speaker 1: They said, walk it like you're talking. Really, so all

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Speaker 1: I gotta do is talking. Didn't walk like that? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: not here, not in America, not the way we are

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Speaker 1: born to raise out here. You know what it is

624
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: really supposed to say, talk it like you walk it.

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Speaker 1: If the base is you did it, say what you

626
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: want America, don't give it. Damn. Don't believe me. Oh Okay,

627
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: here's America. In success. America will let you do whatever

628
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Speaker 1: you want to do if you're successful. Go ahead, you

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Speaker 1: don't believe me, they can have walls up. We do

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Speaker 1: not want anything else but what we want. And then

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Speaker 1: here comes a black golfer, Oh we love is Higer.

632
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: Right right, here becaumes a white basketball player, Oh we

633
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: love you Dirk, you know Lukes. And then a reality

634
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: star becomes a president. Because America in success be like,

635
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: let them go. Who give it? Damn right, I'm gonna

636
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: give y'all the best example last. But in failure, America

637
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: America be like. In controversy and failure, America will go

638
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: like this. Our value system goes like this, excuse me

639
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: what you do? What you say? Because exactly what happened

640
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: to Shakar. She got caught up in that because she failed,

641
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: and then she became controversial. Right, So America be like,

642
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: tighten up, do it the right way if it's not successful.

643
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: And we know what the right way is boring, tried

644
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: and true, boring, but it's successful, right, we know all

645
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: the values and attributes of that. So here's the thing.

646
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it all home with y'all because I

647
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: know it's still some people out there for whatever reason,

648
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: it's just the best thing for them to say. It

649
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: was this, this and this, It was black, her hair,

650
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: her makeup, her voice, her mouth. They want to go there,

651
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: they want to stop there, but they don't want to

652
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: go to the base of this, the foundation. Let me

653
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: take you to the foundation of this, and I give

654
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: you the best example in the world, Florence Gearfrid join her. Right,

655
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about flow Joe. Flow. Joe used

656
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: to run forever and nobody really knew unless you love track,

657
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: because she was always hovering around third fourth place that world.

658
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: You know, obviously win some, but most of the time

659
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: when it got big time, no no, no, no, and

660
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, whoa, what is going on?

661
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: There's a speculation of what helped her do that? Rest

662
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: in peace, But I ain't going there. But I am

663
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: gonna go here. She b ten four nine, Yo, What

664
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: just happened? Oh my god, Chikari just ran a ten

665
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: six five. To let you know the difference in that.

666
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: That's like me raising Chakari right now, not skinning. She'll

667
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: smoke you by no two tests of a second. Almost.

668
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: I ain't in one hundred. That's that's this whole room

669
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: plus some. Y'all it's a dust. So here's the thing.

670
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 1: Flow Joe. Well she was third and fourth place. Eh

671
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: mild manner, Flow Joe, start winning nails, clothes hair. I

672
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: mean she did it with elegance and class, but still

673
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: flam boy and as they come flat boy and Shikari

674
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: without all the woof tickets. But guess what she had,

675
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: and she could have woofed if she wanted to success.

676
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: When you win, it's all good. When Chakari was at

677
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: LSU doing all that, girl, go ahead, it was quick.

678
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: It was fast that LSU was go ahead, win tripping,

679
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: go get it right, it's all good. The same thing

680
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: happening to Odell Beckham Junior when O'Dell was out there

681
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: one hand catching with the goldilocks and all that stuff.

682
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: All right. Then also you kept getting hurt and getting

683
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: in the controversy with the giants and the net and

684
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you got pizza, and then you

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: got flower by the pizza, And that ain't really flower?

686
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: Is it? All of a sudden you become more than

687
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: into what you are. Stop getting distracted by all the

688
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: other things they try to make you focus on because

689
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: you never fixed the problem that way, they don't want

690
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: you to fix the problem. Really, I don't know, but

691
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: why else would you distract these youngsters? So stop listening

692
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: to amigos fully not gonna stop, No, seriously talking like

693
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: you walk it. If you balling out of control, wolf

694
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: wolf woolf, if you ain't, don't be allowed loser. It

695
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work that way, simple as that. So I

696
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: looked at that example and I was like, damn all

697
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: these people getting this wrong. Flow Joe Ben did this

698
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: in her own way, flowed Joe way. Chakari Ben did

699
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: this too, and it worked into Chakari didn't work or

700
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: didn't work as hard, or didn't get the same results

701
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: from her work, and then it all started to crumble down.

702
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Now you see, Schakari symbolism looks different, doesn't she Whatever

703
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: you want to say, I ain't gonna go into that

704
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: conversation right now, but well I'm gonna get into this conversation.

705
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: The hair ain't the same, nail's still the same, the

706
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: conversation ain't the same. You want to know why, Because

707
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: attitude is altitude. Attitude is altitude. People gonna beat you

708
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: up all the time when you say stuff like, man,

709
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: won't you act right or act different or do that? Man?

710
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: Don't tell me what to do. I can do whatever

711
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: I want. No, you can't. You know you can't. There

712
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: is a science to life, and those who don't want

713
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: to study and apply it really struggle in life. I

714
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: know there's an art to life. We all know the art.

715
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: I could be who I want to be, freedom expression,

716
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: But don't disrespect the science. You gotta put in that work.

717
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: It gotta be first, and it shows itself in so

718
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: many ways, different displays, but so many ways. So that's

719
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: why I was critical of her, not just because Wow,

720
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I don't like Chakari, she too loud? Who cares? I'm

721
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: louder than her? I didn't like that she wasted what

722
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: she had and now she realized it too, and she

723
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: made some changes. And all I was trying to do

724
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: was make sure she made those changes. Yo, who somebody

725
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: over here actually cares not only just about you, but

726
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: that beautiful sport of track and field. Thank you for

727
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: taking care of my baby, Shikari. Keep going girl, all right?

728
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: You think of Richardson's comeback story and did you write

729
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: her off before? Impressive? Win ho the hell writing off?

730
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: What twenty four year olds like this istp writing them off?

731
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: Just tell them to remix the Migo song and they'll

732
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: be better, right, all right? Are you surprised she won?

733
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: And should marijuana be legal in sports? Damn? We got

734
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: some good questions right there. Beat them up in the comments,

735
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 1: beat me up in the comments. But on this one,

736
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I ain't right. I just ain't wrong. She'll call myself,

737
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: was it, Bob Barker? I'm over here running the prices

738
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: right over here, giving away everything a new car. Then

739
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the people beyy and then you always see them later

740
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: they'll be like, damn, we gotta pay them taxes. That

741
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: car costs a grip. That free car costs a lot, right,

742
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: But nah, this don't cost you anything, doesn't not as

743
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: much as that car Friday Swag Away winner. While these

744
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: world membership on YouTube? Or look at this what's his name?

745
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: What's his name? What's that say? Right there? Y'all? Like

746
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: that right there? I can see it. That's a real tag,

747
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: that is official. Right there. I'll hook you guys up.

748
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: Just go to Project Transition dot org. Donate to the

749
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: foundation any amount. It could be a penny if they

750
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: let you just do it. Make it a recurring penny.

751
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: So every month, every week, gotta be a penny. I

752
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: can take that penny. You get that helmet man, all

753
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: those experiences and more. Let's focus some comments, focus from comments. Yeah,

754
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: all right, let talk about Jonathan Taylor in that trade.

755
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I think j T will end up back with Indy

756
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: on same deal. Huh. I do wonder, though, do you

757
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: think a current non quarterback can build a brand for

758
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: himself off the field in regard to endorsements, etc. Yeah,

759
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: of course, Justin Jefferson is a brand. My son does

760
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: the was it gritty giddy whatever? He giddy ed up

761
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: every damn second of his life. Now Justin Jefferson right there, right,

762
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: So there's one man. Jonathan Taylor sounds like Chris Jones.

763
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: Chris is saying he's gonna hold out the week eight.

764
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: None of them teams have thirty two million to pay

765
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: CJ like he says he wants, and the Chiefs are saying, okay,

766
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 1: next man up. I think Chris Jones is gonna cost

767
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: my homes a super Bowl trophy this coming season. But

768
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: CJ isn't going to get his bag because it's too

769
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: late in the I guess we will see how CJ

770
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: does as an actor if you can believe that Michael

771
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: Bay unless Clark Hunt steps and the Chiefs aren't given

772
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: CJ at thirty two million dollar back. I just missed

773
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: that whole joke, but I know it's funny somewhere. All right,

774
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: let's go Scott Van Pelt join the ESPN Monday Night Countdown.

775
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 1: Even the Turner guys have more than one gig. Barkley

776
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: and Ernie have been doing the podcast together for a

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00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: number of years. You're right. I don't see it at all.

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00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, but yeah, you're right. Barkley has

779
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: several shows on TNT and we'll have a show with

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00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 1: Gail kingo CNN. Yeah, he will, he will, he will.

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00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: I ain't seen none of that. I ain't seen the

782
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: Gail Kings show yet. It's coming though out here. Shaq

783
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: have been doing a podcast a while with Spice Adams

784
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: and the Shell turn I have seen that because that's

785
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: the Homies. So yep, I've seen that. When you're right,

786
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: Kenny might be the only one right now where Inside

787
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the NBA is his only media entertainment show that he does. Ah,

788
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: so you're right. In pointed that there are even examples

789
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: that Turner which proves that I'm right, because there's asteroids everywhere.

790
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: They just woof, they breaking us up into pieces. I'm

791
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: gonna miss Steve Young and Susie me too, but I'm

792
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: also gonna look for to enjoying what they got going

793
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: right now because I like this lineup, kayl it is

794
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: going to be mussy TV. See you agree with me?

795
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: All right? We got to remember right here, mister stephen

796
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: B twelve talking about Irvin and Keishawn Johnson going to Undisputed,

797
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: stephen A would have would have to up the antie

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00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: to match up with Skip show. Stephen A should add

799
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: t oh, it would be the most watched show ever. Whoa,

800
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: whoa if stephen A got Shannon reportedly, I don't know

801
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: if it's reported now or t o now we cook

802
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: him with some grease. That's the sept CON's going against

803
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: the autobots, because that's the lineup right there. Because Skipton

804
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: looked at the Junkyard Skip with Sanford or something wown,

805
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: he was like, he was looking like, oh, let me

806
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: get a little bit of Keishawn over there. Come on here,

807
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: what else s'all got over there, Michael Irvan, let me

808
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: get some of the right. Where's Max Kellerman? If you're

809
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: going all through the sand for the sun, Junkyard, go

810
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: get Max Kellerman. I have never been a big fan

811
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: of skip Baylist, but I must admit I like this group.

812
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: Told you, I'm interested to see how this works. And

813
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: I have to admit I'm not a fan of Steven A,

814
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: but I'm a big fan of Shannon. What will I do? Question?

815
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: What do you do when the thing you love becomes

816
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: one with the thing you hate? Ah, It's called live.

817
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: This world is just God and devil. This world is

818
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: just good and bad and love and hate. Everything we

819
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: do is a balance and that of equilibrium. We slamt

820
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: this way, then we slap that way. The beautiful thing

821
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: about human beings is because we have our own minds,

822
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: we also can play our own movies in our head,

823
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: which include you showing the world you think only the

824
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: positive things about you. Right, all that bs about you,

825
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: it's leaking out. We see it. People just don't call

826
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: you out on it. And unless you got a friend

827
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: like me, then I'm an asshole because I call out

828
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: all your BS. Because I'm gonna lead with my bs. First, like,

829
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: I need to my lips right now, ask Larry. All right,

830
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: So basically it's a flip flop. Steven A gets Shannon

831
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: Sharp and Skip gets all the fired ESPN employees. Yeah,

832
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: that's real. Shannon in the background like, damn, took y'all

833
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: like five people to replace me. Laugh my ass off.

834
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: That was one of the things that people were telling

835
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: me made me feel good. I was dying laughing. They

836
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: were like, damn, why do you leave? They invite four

837
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: other people to replace you. They're like Shady Joy, David

838
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: and the slick Rick. I was like, man, they doing

839
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: different thing than me, man, but it did feel funny.

840
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: All right, So here is who is going to be

841
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: the NBA expert. I told y'all jayen Rose. They gonna

842
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: hire jaen Rose. They got to They already on that path.

843
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: Finish it, Finish him, remember that, finish him with that

844
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. All Skip needs is to hire Kwame for

845
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: the NBA covers, and this show is going to be

846
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: absolutely blow up. Yep, laugh my ass off. Yeah, that

847
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: show will blow up if they had Kwame. God Lord Kwame.

848
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: I just love to see Kwame stuck between these borders. Look,

849
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: I curse. If I won't, I'm gona go back on

850
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: my tractor, y'all. Good, Just gonna walk off set every

851
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 1: single show to go back on that tractor. That would

852
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: be amazing. All right, y'all. Now it's time to bring

853
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: in my man, Will. And since Will is here, I

854
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: need to hear Will, so I'm gonna have to bring

855
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: up his Yes, Bana black Dare. Here's what's up, Will?

856
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you what to do? Brother?

857
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me again here, and I'm I apologized.

858
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: Man.

859
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: Last week when I was on Man.

860
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: We were celebrating the fiftieth year of Hip Hop Man.

861
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 2: And I was gonna ask you man. We ended up losing.

862
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: Who is that Magoo? Right?

863
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask you, man, what's your favorite

864
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: Magoo song? If you got one?

865
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: Man? When Magoo came out with who was he with?

866
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Was he with Timberlain? Right? Yeah? Yeah? See this is

867
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 1: where you're gonna get me in trouble. All right. I

868
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: respect the dad and every body, but if you famous

869
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: and dead, then I gotta still talk about you for real, right.

870
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: And I ain't have a favorite Magoo song because I

871
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: ain't never like Magoo like that. I was kind of

872
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: like Missy. I was like them beats a banging, go Missy,

873
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: hurry up Magoo like, but respect Magoo. And I know

874
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: he loves man. Nobody love Magoo like that. Stop. It's okay, Man,

875
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: this family we love him as a person, but nobody

876
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: was Magoo rapping. All right? What else you got but respect.

877
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 2: To him for sure?

878
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 3: And I know you out west there, man, So I

879
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: don't know if you've been around to some of those

880
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: national parks. I know I have, Man, So if you have,

881
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: what's your favorite park or what's your favorite place to

882
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: go to?

883
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: Man one, I love you. I don't know why, but

884
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you are like the deepest, smartest, coolest dude in the world.

885
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: And I need your help. I need you in my life.

886
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: I don't go to national parks. I'm almost like I

887
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: abstained from him. I'm almost like allergic to him. I

888
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: got jokes for him. I'm like, I'm not sleeping with ants.

889
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even glamp. I'm worse than that.

890
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'm at the Four Seasons. And then

891
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: I see you during the morning after y'all campfire breakfast,

892
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: like I'm not coming. But I have been a Jesse

893
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Owes Park. You know what I'm saying. Magic Johnson got

894
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: a park down the street, but national parks. I think

895
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: we took it like a field trip when I was young.

896
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you, wheel dog. My wife

897
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: clowns me all the time. I need to get my

898
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: culture up. I guess I am not good with like

899
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: doing a lot of adventures. I like to say I'm

900
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: a city boy, Like I want tacos with ketchup. I

901
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: want a nice jack and diet and you know what

902
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, put the game on and shut the traps.

903
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: I'm too like basic. Man. What about you give me

904
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 1: a park that I need to go hit. I'm gonna

905
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: go hit that park. Never let me hear what man if?

906
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: Because I know you like to get you in shape

907
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: on man.

908
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: But Yosemite out there, man, it's got a lot of

909
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: nice hiking out that way.

910
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be too far from you, man, and it's

911
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: a good time out there.

912
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: All right. I hear your semity up. Ain't like I

913
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: ain't been hearing it my whole life. Flintstones and every

914
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: If I ain't been in Yo City yet, I probably

915
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: ain't going to Yu City. That's the way it sounded me,

916
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you. Will. Where are you calling me from? Oh?

917
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: Actually, man, I'm in Virginia right now, Portsmouth, Virginia.

918
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: Man.

919
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a good afternoon morning to you

920
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 3: because it's just still your more than time going into

921
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: your afternoon and I'm almost through my mid days.

922
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's love, man. I appreciate you, brother. Well, enjoy

923
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: the rest of your day and enjoy that investment in

924
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: that background. That's a hell of a fresh studio. Virtual

925
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: or not look better than where I'm at.

926
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: No, well, man, it's a fixed fight there because I

927
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: am in Dan Patrick School of Sports Broadcasting. So I

928
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: had to find something that was more workable than my

929
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 3: poor light that I had.

930
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: So I had to find something that worked. So I'm

931
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: not that brilliant. I had to get brilliant real quickly,

932
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: start getting some better grades.

933
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: Man. Oh that's dope. Man, Hey man, fagging team mega

934
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: got I love it, brother, have a great one. Will.

935
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: I talked to you soon, brother, Appreciate your support. Oh man,

936
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: he's trying to just clash up the jointing. I'm over here,

937
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: just got jokes. I don't know no Mago songs. What

938
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: kind of dj am I don't know my goo song.

939
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: And then I ain't been in no parks, just ghetto.

940
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: I'm just ghattling. I can hear it right now, somebody

941
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: call man you ghetto whatever. I'm me all right, y'all.

942
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: Y'all know how we finish every show. We finished with

943
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: a Wyley ism. Yeah, you can't find secrets without looking

944
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: for him. Whoa, whoa. I've been on both sides of

945
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: this one. You can't find secrets without looking for him. Now,

946
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take it so simple. I think it's

947
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: a little deeper than that. It's like, don't go looking

948
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: for trouble, right, Trouble just sitting there like, oh, come here,

949
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: you good, come here, Like That's how trouble is. Always

950
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: trouble always recruiting, you know what I mean, Trouble out

951
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: there like Jimbo Fisher, just always recruiting and looking for people, right,

952
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: and then you better watch what you asked for it

953
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: because you might get it. And it's crazy because who

954
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: has raised your hand if you ever would look through

955
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: somebody else's phone, raise your hand, if you ever had

956
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: your phone looked through? Now I will say the latter

957
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: has happened a lot more than me. But I've looked

958
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: through some phones before too. Why do I look through

959
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: that phone because I'm leaning whether it's because of me

960
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: coming into the relationship. Man, my ex she was kind

961
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: of flirtatious, if not cheated, or she was all over

962
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: the place roman eyes, whatever. I could blame her, but

963
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: I need to blame me. What was it with me?

964
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 2: Oh?

965
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: Man? You know you grew up with some issues and

966
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: seeing too much and didn't really resolve all of that.

967
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: Was Mama and Daddy faithful that family across the street.

968
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: Did you hear them stories and never have them resolved?

969
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: How your sister don't live with you, but you see

970
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: her every day at school, But then yo, Mama won't

971
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: let you go over there and she live right next

972
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: I had a real story, like oh god, dark, Like

973
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: it's so crazy when you were a kid and you

974
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: experien it's real stuff and nobody is there to clarify it.

975
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: You just don't live in your own reality. You make

976
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: up like oh my, and then that really becomes like

977
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: seated emotions and seated context to the way you view

978
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: the world. So if you grew up around a bunch

979
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: of people that you saw flirting, maybe not even cheating,

980
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 1: but maybe cheating just doing the most. Guess what, you

981
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: probably may be somebody who does the most, you know

982
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's just that simple, man. And

983
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: so I learned this in relationships, like dog, I gotta

984
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: be disciplined, even in a relationship like all right, I

985
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: just met her. Oh I'm really feeling for Okay, And

986
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: you're going through that weird, strange period right when you

987
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: trying to land the plane of all your friends and

988
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: girlfriends and girls you holler to mess around with and

989
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: kick it with you trying to land them planes or

990
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: everybody board up, it's over, Get on, get on a plane. Girl.

991
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: It was cool, but you know we ain't gonna get married.

992
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: Land that plane and then let this one plane take off,

993
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: this two passager plane. When you were a girl that

994
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: you just met the curly your dreams, right, So I

995
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: gotta land that one and let this one. But before

996
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: that one lands, it's some turbulence. You'll be like, man,

997
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: what should I do? Should I give up all that

998
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: all them passengers, let them land just to take off

999
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: like this and this little itty bitty plane. But that

1000
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: plan gonna grow. That plan gonna go. So I've been

1001
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: there before. And then you're like, now you got turbulence here,

1002
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: you landed, all right? Who she was fine? Got them

1003
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: seat one? A, oh god? See two? C? Two? All right? Whatever? Whatever?

1004
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's go, baby, let's go. And then you

1005
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: did I give up too much too fast? Do I

1006
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: trust you? Why are you always looking at your phone?

1007
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Why you flip your phone over when we go out

1008
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: to eat, face down? Right? So then you're like, one

1009
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: day you see that phone and it's face down, and

1010
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: she gone, she ran around. See, I'm gonna go run,

1011
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: take a run. I'll be back. You ain't gonna run

1012
00:51:53,440 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: with your phone. Yeah, I've seen the cold. That's how

1013
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,479
Speaker 1: the game goes. You gotta be careful, man. You won't

1014
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: find nothing without looking for them. I can hear some

1015
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: of y'all justifying it. See what you find is what

1016
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: you should know, and what you should be knowing is

1017
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: everything in due time, in due trust, not just in

1018
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: due time, right, So you violate the trust. And then

1019
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: on top of that, you gonna find stuff all out

1020
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: of context. Because every time somebody looked through my phone,

1021
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: I swear they made me guilty of all the stuff.

1022
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: I was innocent of and didn't catch all the stuff

1023
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: I was really guilty of. Let me stop, all right, y'all.

1024
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: So man, just keep it real with yourself. Have discipline

1025
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: even in your relationships no matter what you're doing, man,

1026
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: and remember be careful with what you're looking for. You

1027
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: might get it. So you can't find secrets without looking

1028
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: for them, all right, y'all, got'd do it. For more

1029
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 1: to It, check the show notes for all the information

1030
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: on our topics today today. Want to keep the conversation,

1031
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: go on, let's talk find me on all socials at Marcels.

1032
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: Wiley More Too is a production of Damn Patrick Production

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1034
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1035
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1036
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