WEBVTT - Positional Breakdown (7/16) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.920 Like games over and they are the world. You plenty 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:09.600 to win the game. He's got it. Jet cuts down Camp. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.480 You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:25.639 Jets three sixty production. That's right there is the Official 0:00:25.760 --> 0:00:29.200 Jets Podcast, Ethan Greenberg and Erik Allen here in studio. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.880 Mini camp is behind us. It's in the rear view, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.360 which means that one thing is a hatty a and 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:38.400 that his training camp today. On the Official Jets Pod, 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:40.440 we got a good show. It's just me any A. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:42.720 You know, no guests, but what do you mean? It's 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.360 just me and it's just us. Were typically we've had 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:50.560 a guest. Now it's just us, and we're breaking down 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.880 the team positioned by position after mini camp. What we've learned, 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.200 what we expected coming into O T A S and 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.440 Mini camp, maybe some guys that caught our eyes. And 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:04.640 then after that we're gonna talk about what transpires between 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.360 now and training camp. And then what I've learned so 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:13.120 far is that after one of the coldest March marches 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.920 in recent memory, it's finally heating up, and I love 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.520 it the dog days of summer. I'm a dog guy, 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:25.160 so he eat it up for ba. You you like humidity. Oh, 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:28.160 I don't mind it. I like training it. But you 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.680 like humidity like you like the feeling of stepping outside 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.920 and feeling like you have to sweat already. I like 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:38.360 going outside and feeling like this sauna. But that Yeah, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.600 but there's a difference between dry heat and humidity. Like 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:43.520 I like to dry heat when you go out and 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:45.680 you know it's hot and you might need to put 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.520 some some block on or else you're gonna be read 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.680 by the time you come back in. But when it's humid, 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.200 to me, it's disgusting. What are you taking shots at 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:57.680 my Irish fair skin by saying you're gonna go outside 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.880 and come back read Listen? I would know I would too, 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.640 I will come back red. To know you have a 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.560 darker complexion than me. You were. You know you don't 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.760 get too burned. I don't think I get burned back 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.840 of my neck, but not not that anyone cares about that. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.880 Nobody does. And let me tell you something, Tom Bowls 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.000 would sign up for this weather in a heartbeat if 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.600 he could get it for training camp. Yeah, but he's 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.760 also crazy, considering he wears longs and longs on the 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.800 sidewise during training camp in the heat. Yeah, I know why, 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.920 I know why a lot of the coaches do it. 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:33.959 But it's crazy to me. So what isn't it? Isn't 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.280 it a tactic to lose weight to sweat more? I 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:39.760 think something for some people it is. I don't know 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:45.639 if everybody out there with sweatshirts and long pants are 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.560 necessarily trying to lose weight. I don't know the method 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:53.000 to the madness, but yes, certainly you can lose a 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.000 lot of pounds out there and water weight, but I 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:58.200 just think that's water weight, don't you just put it 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.600 right back on? Probably what I feel like coaches in 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.760 training camp don't have a lot of time to themselves, 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.800 so that would be that's like their workout. He just sweat. Well, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:12.480 I'll tell you what. What was recently revealed in One 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.919 Jet Strive, the Facebook watched series that our production crew 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.080 has been putting together on the first installment was Todd 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.359 Bowles gets in it and starts working out of four 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.800 twenty two. So if he continues to do that, I'll 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.400 have time to workout in training camp. That's true, That's 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.840 very true, And he referred to One Jet Strive. You 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.600 gotta watch it it's essentially an all access theories that 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.840 encompasses from the end of the seventeen season until the 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:48.280 beginning of training camp every Tuesday from June to July. 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:55.440 How about that, you got to dates down. I just 0:03:51.600 --> 0:04:00.440 know it debuts on Facebook Watch at eight o'clock each week, 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.960 and also I think we were purposing some of that 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.640 content on many of our platforms, including Europets dot com, 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.800 But the only place you can watch the episode in 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:14.400 full every Tuesday is Facebook Watch. And there you go. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:16.640 So now that that's out of the way again, that's 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.320 called one Jets Drive. Let's rewind the clock here. Minicamps 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.560 just happened a couple of weeks ago. Let's go a 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:24.719 position by position, and we're not gonna break it down 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.760 fully because in a little down the road here he 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.960 and I are gonna have a training camp preview and 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.480 that seems like it's a while away, but it's really not, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:39.120 which is crazy to me. But nonetheless, let's recap what 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.640 happened in minicamp, and minicamp is just a glorified O 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.240 t A in the sense that there are still no pads, 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:52.039 team periods, individual periods still happen. The only difference is 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:53.919 that players can spend more time in the building and 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.720 there's more meetings behind the scenes. So from a fans perspective, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:00.400 it's basically the same as ot as A. That mini 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.800 camp is three days, is a three day stretch, more 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.000 hours in the building for the players. That's about it. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.880 So with that being said, e A, let's break things 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:13.159 down like position by position, what we learned, whatever, Let's 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.560 just start where I believe most fans want to know 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.680 about is under center, and the status right now is 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.360 Josh mccount, Teddy Bridgewater and Sam donald All of them 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.600 looked very impressive at different times throughout O t A 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:29.280 s A Mini camp. You know what, what do you 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:33.800 what's your read on this situation right now? I know 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:38.120 that Josh mccount has been named starter by coach Todd Bowles, 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.520 but it seems that he's gonna play whoever the best 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.320 player is come September. Well, yeah, just to clarify that 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.640 a little bit, is that he's the starter entering training camp, 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.800 and Teddy bridgewaters the two and Sam Donaldson number three. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.000 But that really doesn't mean too much because Todd Bowls 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.400 also said we'll see what happens that the under training camp. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:04.360 What he saw throughout the spring Greens was Josh McCown. 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.279 He got the most reps with the first team offense, 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:13.000 but Sam Donald also received reps with the first team offense. Predominantly, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.000 what we saw was Teddy Bridgewater getting reps with the 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.640 second team. The other thing that we have to clarify 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:24.400 for fans everywhere is that when people ask myself, when 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.600 people ask Ethan Greenberg, when people ask Olivia Land, is 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.440 Randy Lang and all the Jets beat reporters out there? 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.480 Where did they see this spring? We only saw six 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.440 practices if you include three O t A s and 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.240 all three mini camp practices. But they had ten O 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.400 t A s, so you're missing seven. And I think 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.800 the one day UH the Jets didn't actually practice, so 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:53.520 you're missing six. So you didn't even see He saw 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.440 about half of the times they were out there in 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.800 the football field, but all on all UH Greens. I 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.560 would say that all the quarterbacks, from what I saw 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:07.040 in my five times being able to watch some practice, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:11.200 I thought all the quarterbacks that relatively strong camps. Would 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.840 you say that, I think that they did. It seemed 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.640 that each player had a different time which they looked 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.600 very good. So one day it was Teddy, one day 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.200 it was Josh, one day it was Sam. The thing 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.600 that's interesting to me is once Sam Donald was drafted 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.360 third overall back in April, everyone kind of pointed to, Okay, well, 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.080 how likely is it that Sam Donald is going to 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:39.880 start in his first year? You know, with Josh McCown 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.280 as being being a mentor and Teddy in the room 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:47.840 as well. So reading the tea leaves now it seems 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.720 that Sam Donald is going to have every opportunity and 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.280 training camp to have that opportunity to go out and 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.960 grab the job is starting quarterback. Now I could be 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:03.559 wrong about that, but what you said before when Josh 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:05.560 is getting a lot of reps with the ones and 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:10.360 Sam was, and Sam really had a lot of reps 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.880 in minicamp and O t s as a whole. Correct 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.840 me if I'm wrong, or maybe if you read it differently, 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.720 But it seems to me that Todd Bowles it was 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.040 serious and sticking to his guns when he said we're 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.680 not gonna throw him in there, but we're not gonna 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:26.440 hold him back either. All Right, So here's the thing 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:29.560 with Donald's This is the thing that jumps out of 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.640 you Todd Bull says, this guy is very good at 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:36.600 retaining information. Todd Bull said that he does not repeat 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.840 the same mistake twice. Jeremy Bates, the Jets offensive coordinator 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.600 who was also the team's quarterbacks coach, said he's doing 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.920 an excellent job making the pro transition as far as 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:53.640 taking snaps under center and also commanding that huddle. Josh 0:08:53.760 --> 0:08:57.480 McCown has been impressed with the rookies work ethic. There 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:02.040 is a great chemistry inside that him. Uh. He is sudden, 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.680 as Jeremy Bates said, which is something that we referred 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.439 to before the draft Greens, is that he can make 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.400 plays off script. He has a strong arm, He is 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.840 very athletic. He has impressed his teammates. Leonard william said 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:21.199 he looks like a prol already. So I what I 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:23.800 think people should do is just take a second and 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.840 go back to January and say, well, this is gonna 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.680 be your quarterback situation in June. Just think where you're 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.760 January one, when the Jets were cleaning out their lockers 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:34.959 after losing to New England Patriots and finished in the 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.520 season five and eleven. Now fast forward to where they're 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.359 gonna be in late July, where you have Josh mccowennor's 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.400 resigned coming off a career, you're one of the better 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.520 mentors in the National Football League. You can make an argument, 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:52.800 uh as Jordan Palmer did right saying that if he 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.120 had a draft and he were to pick a veteran 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.920 quarterback to be paired with the young quarterback, he would 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.760 pick Josh McCown umber one overall. And oh, by the way, 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:06.040 Josh mcconnen is in fantastic athletic shape. Again, then you 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.679 get Sam Donald, who a lot of people thought was 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.560 gonna be the number one overall selection. Of course, Cleveland 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.520 Browns went to Baker Mayfield and then finally Teddy Bridgewater. 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.480 The Jets make that low risk, potentially high reward maneuver 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.120 by signing him to a deal. I've been very impressed 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:26.640 with him on a number of levels, including what you're 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.160 seeing from Jeremy Bates offense is a lot of roll offs. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:32.040 Let'll tell you what. He looks fine over he does 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.640 and he throws the ball. All these all these guys 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:39.480 throw the ball very well. They arm strength, no question here. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:43.719 All right, He's impressed. So that's the quarterback situation there now, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.240 that's all we're gonna talk about it about quarterbacks. It's 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.240 just a quick review. And then I want to say 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.600 this Greens the case I mentioned this, it was, uh, 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:57.560 you did a recent interview with the Bills guys. John 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.880 Murphy there played by play guy and Chris Brown, who 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.960 it just does a fan fantastic job for Buffalo Bills 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:07.720 dot Com. I was on there, uh one Bills Live. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.000 Actually the show is recently and I told him I 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.160 wouldn't be surprised if any of the three started week one, 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:17.079 if Bridgewater was out there in Detroit. It wouldn't be 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:20.360 a crazy upset to me either. About that one. I 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.800 don't think you'd be crazy either. And all three of them, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.480 all three of them going into camp. I am serious 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.920 about this, all three of them going into camp with 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.160 legitimate shot at this job. And to come full circle, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.280 you're right about it, Todd Bowls and not put any 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:39.280 timetable on Sam Donald. If he's ready to go, don't 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.599 put him out there week one in Motor City. You 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:45.400 ever been to a baseball game where they have one 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.520 of those displays on the jumbo tron where the three 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.280 trains or whatever, like one pulls ahead and you guess 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:55.680 that's kind of how it feels to me because Josh 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.200 McCown is the front or the lead horse right now. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.040 But depending upon what happened raining camp, maybe one week 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.880 it's Teddy, then it's Sam, and then only one guy 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.840 can emerge week one in Detroit Monday night. So we'll 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.960 see about that obviously, that this is the man, since 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.280 we're just we're just getting well, are you saying that 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.319 because the final leg? No, I'm not talking about it, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:18.920 because we're just getting out of the gates and this 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.760 is a long track. Okay, Okay, I like that. I 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.080 thought maybe we're saying because I don't know who's who's 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:29.559 my justify here, I'm not ready not you're justified. No, 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.240 I'm just saying it's a long track and we're just 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.600 getting out of the gates, all right. I like that analogy. Now, 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.040 quarterbacks aside, let's talk about the running backs for a second. Obviously, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.559 it's a little difficult to decipher what happens because they're 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:45.160 not wearing pads, and same goes for most contact positions 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:50.000 like O line, D line, cornerbacks too as well. But 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.240 let's talk about this for a second. Here is running backs. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:58.559 You got a pretty crowded backfield right there with Isaiah Royl, 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.160 who the Jets signing free agent to see bal pal, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:04.679 Eli McGuire and Thomas Rawls, who is a guy that 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.719 had a fantastic rookie season, did some great things in 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.760 Seattle and then kind of tailed off. But he seemed 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.280 like he had some nice burst in his step. Although, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.840 like I said, no pads, this is gonna be a position. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.560 Oh excuse me? How could I forget Trent and Camp? Yeah, 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:23.840 Jets six round draft pick who's primarily a returner as 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.280 of now, or it seems to be. But he's got 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.120 some wheels, so I wouldn't be surprised if he got 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:34.079 the most work out of anybody in the preseason work. Yeah. Absolutely. 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.800 But as it stands now is don't you think that 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.679 this is I say, more interesting camp battles to come 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.000 because it's a crowded room, Like do you really carry 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.959 four running backs? Now? Listen, Here's what I'll say, is 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:50.080 that is it interesting? I was? I think the Jets 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.160 there are no starters in the group. I think it's 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:57.680 a solid group. We always talk about bal polished production, 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.520 and he's the longest tenure guy in those roster, and 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.960 all this guy does every years seemed to do something 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.480 new and to make the most out of every time 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.800 he touches the ball. Stump Mitchell, just running backs coach, 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:15.320 said he kind of compared the new back in Isaiah 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.560 Crowell to Paul by saying, listen, they both can run 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.320 it well, they both can catch the ball out of 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.440 the backfield, and they both can block. Obviously crow out 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.680 a little bit of a bigger guy. And then behind 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.160 them Eli McGuire speaking of Stump Mitchell, he's something he 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:34.200 said some very very impressive things. He made a comparison, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.120 and I think Todd Bowls didn't walk that back. It's 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:41.520 just tough for coaches sometimes to make comparisons. He's I 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.840 think he was just being very complimentary to Eli McGuire 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.200 and he was just saying that here's another guy can 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.720 do a lot of things. Yeah. I think that's what 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:54.680 goes overlooked is that he wasn't saying Eli is LaDainian Tomlinson. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.360 But for those who missed it, Stump Mitchell said, Eli 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.560 McGuire has Ladanian Tomlinson qualities, meaning that he can do 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:04.000 a little bit of everything from a running back standing 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.720 and then he's got some explosion too, because that's what 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:10.480 Ladinian Thomlinson was especially around his career, was oh wow, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.160 was the explosive and he and listen, if you're Elie McGuire, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.600 to listen to that, that's got to give you confidence. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:20.440 But you just look at those three guys like, okay, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.560 well we got a pretty good backfield. And then you 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:28.800 mentioned Rols interesting guy because uh North South tough, um, 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.640 you know, where does he fit into the equation? And 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:34.480 then Trenton Cannon and like you mentioned, he's in a 0:15:34.600 --> 0:15:37.640 mix to be the returner right away. And then finally 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:43.440 with Cannon, is that Stump Mitchell said, listen, speed home 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.400 run hitter. He's got to learn how to change up 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.000 speeds on the professional level, which means setting up blocks 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.880 and things of that nature. You're very early on in 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.840 his career. It's a solid group, right. The other thing 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.240 about Stump that I want to say in regard to 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.920 the Ladinian talents and Eli comparison is, if you're a 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.600 fan and you're reading, who the heck is Stump Mitchell 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:06.120 and what does he know? To his credit, he said 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.640 that he told the same thing what he did to 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:12.120 Elon McGuire to David Johnson before he became David Johnson, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.000 because Mitchell was his coach in Arizona. So there's a 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.400 bit of a resume there per se for Mitchell. But 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.400 the last thing about the running backs that I want 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.040 to touch on is Rick Dennison is the new old 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.160 line coach. So historically the Dennison scheme is a bit 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:30.000 of more of a zone outside zone scheme. So do 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.520 you think that plays into the strengths of the of 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.040 these running backs or do you think that it doesn't matter. Obviously, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.640 Crowell is a bit of a question mark here because 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.640 we haven't seen him run for his career. But how 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.200 about this for a tidbit on Crowell. He's one of 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.480 two running backs to not miss a game over the 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:50.040 last four seasons, and the other running back is Frank Or, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:54.160 who's now a Miami Dolphin. Is pretty amazing. He's still gone. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.040 I think if frank Or is my age, Frank frank 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.840 Or is amazing that for he's the fact that he 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.160 comes back every season and he's healthy and he puts 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.400 up numbers. It's it's very very impressive and I think 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.640 overlooked as well. But you think that maybe for someone 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.399 like balal and Eli this this is a system that 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.639 fits their running style more I want, I would I 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.680 say more, no, no, no, I would say that they're 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.360 gonna be be able to adapt to the system. Um. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:28.560 I think of the running game, and I think up front, 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.960 you gotta be a in sync with the players up front. 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.320 And I know we're gonna be talking about the offensive line. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.480 I think, uh, when you talk about the Jets in 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.159 the ground this year, is how are they going to 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.320 adapt to Rick Dennison up front? And how are the 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:45.680 guys gonna mesh? And you know, I don't want to 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.119 jump to offensive line to early on the greens, but 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:52.040 I would say that you put al Po in any system. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.480 I think he's gonna be effective in the National Football League. 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.400 I think row While is a guy who's very interesting 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.200 because he just came from a Cleveland team that was 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.919 one in thirty one over the last thirty two games. 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.680 So you know, I would imagine Cleveland had to go 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.600 away from the run a lot early in ball games. 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:10.840 You know, one of the questions that we're going to 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:15.119 tackle on New York Just dot Com before trainee camp 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.119 is who's the guy is gonna lead the backs in 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:21.000 terms of total yards, who's gonna be the guy gets 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:24.639 the most rushed attempts in the backfield, Who's gonna have 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.639 the most yards on the ground, Because, uh, you know, 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.080 a lot of skill sets back there. But there's versatility 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.879 and um diversity, and I think the Jets got a 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.920 good group up front. Now, talking about the big dudes 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:42.160 in the offensive line, I don't really want to touch 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.919 a whole lot on them just because they can't. They 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.280 can't block people in mini camp and O T A s. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.080 But what I will say is that it was nice 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:53.200 to see Spencer Long towards the end of mini camp 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.440 get some team reps because in the beginning he was 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.720 only taking part in the individual drills and in many 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:02.480 camp up again, no starters as of now. We'll see 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.560 what happened in training camp. But the offensive line up 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:09.320 front is as you'd expect, with left to right, Calvin Beecham, 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.400 James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winners, and Brandon Shell. Well. 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.520 The big thing here is there there is an addition 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.040 even though you didn't sign a new player per se, 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.120 because Brian Winners was hurt in Week two last year 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:29.760 in Oakland. Uh, the groin uh Abdaman. I guess Daman 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.560 issue we had. He said he wouldn't wish that at 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.440 his worst enemy, and he played through that for most 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.480 of the season. I think you're gonna see a new 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:44.040 player that guard position. I've always thought carp has been 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:49.080 a solid guard. Beach him at left tackle, I think listen, 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.399 he brings his lunch pal to work. I think he 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.879 was pretty dependable out there. And Brandon Shell still a 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.760 developing guy on the right side. So what the Jets 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:03.399 didn't free agency too is they replenished their depth. The 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.080 quoted Dozer's back. He's a guy Todd Bowles uh lauded 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:11.359 as far as his improvement last year. So he's a 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.480 guy of rusty guy in the middle. Travis Swanson is 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.480 a guy who Green's. When I was out there, I 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.119 think he was coming in maybe third center, because what 0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.360 the Jets were doing when Spencer Long wasn't taking those 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:27.199 first team reps at center, it was Jonathan Harrison, who 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.480 the Jets also resigned in the off season. Ben I 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.840 Jelana back. He can play either right, right or left tackle, 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.680 so you know you got some depth there at the position. Um. 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.040 But the guy to watch I think for all folks, 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:46.040 especially in the summertime, it's a it's a key position 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.880 here and Jets fans know this better than anybody because 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.640 they've been spoiled. They had an unbelievable run from Kevin 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:57.919 Mway to Nick Megel and he talked about Brian Winners 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.600 there for a second, how it's an addition, but without 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.920 a resigning, the same could The same case could be 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:07.000 made for the wide receivers because Quincy and Noon was 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.280 should be back from a nick and from a neck 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.280 injury suffered at last year Green and White practice and 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:16.520 didn't play the entire season after really a breakout season 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:22.840 in sixteen, and this receiving corps is not talked about often, 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.320 I think from a national perspective, but those guys are 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:28.880 very confident in the group. And from top to bottom 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:31.400 you have Robby Anderson and Jamaine Curse were the two 0:21:31.440 --> 0:21:34.640 main horses last year. Then you get Quincy and Noon 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.920 we back. You signed Terrell Prior, who had in a 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.679 thousand yards season in Cleveland before an injury, played year 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.680 in Washington last year. And then someone that's been talked 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.240 about a lot since the offseason program started up as 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:52.360 Chad Hanson and he's looked like a different player from 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.280 year one to year two. And then of course our 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.520 areas Stewart, who is the second year player. That that's 0:21:58.560 --> 0:22:02.399 a very interesting room as all and the receivers or 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:04.080 I mean, we could talk about each one of those 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:06.640 guys and even the guys we haven't talked about yet, 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.000 but that's gonna be a very interesting dynamic to see 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:14.840 who who shows up when the pads are on. Robby 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.560 Anderson to me, is an elite talent. He could become 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.680 one of the finer receivers in the entire National Football League. 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:23.760 I'm not talking about Division, I'm not talking about FC, 0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:28.560 I'm talking about the NFL. He's he's a unique talent. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:33.040 Uh A noon while is a guy who finally got 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:36.959 the helman on late mini camp and he's made some progress. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.120 So let's see what happens early on in training camp 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:44.000 when the pads are popping, and let's see how his 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.679 progress is taking shape. But he was a guy while 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.879 I always thought Green's was an energy guy where he 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.200