Speaker 1: Like games over and they are the world. You plenty
Speaker 1: to win the game. He's got it. Jet cuts down Camp.
Speaker 1: You're listening to the Official New York Jets Podcast, a
Speaker 1: Jets three sixty production. That's right there is the Official
Speaker 1: Jets Podcast, Ethan Greenberg and Erik Allen here in studio.
Speaker 1: Mini camp is behind us. It's in the rear view,
Speaker 1: which means that one thing is a hatty a and
Speaker 1: that his training camp today. On the Official Jets Pod,
Speaker 1: we got a good show. It's just me any A.
Speaker 1: You know, no guests, but what do you mean? It's
Speaker 1: just me and it's just us. Were typically we've had
Speaker 1: a guest. Now it's just us, and we're breaking down
Speaker 1: the team positioned by position after mini camp. What we've learned,
Speaker 1: what we expected coming into O T A S and
Speaker 1: Mini camp, maybe some guys that caught our eyes. And
Speaker 1: then after that we're gonna talk about what transpires between
Speaker 1: now and training camp. And then what I've learned so
Speaker 1: far is that after one of the coldest March marches
Speaker 1: in recent memory, it's finally heating up, and I love
Speaker 1: it the dog days of summer. I'm a dog guy,
Speaker 1: so he eat it up for ba. You you like humidity. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't mind it. I like training it. But you
Speaker 1: like humidity like you like the feeling of stepping outside
Speaker 1: and feeling like you have to sweat already. I like
Speaker 1: going outside and feeling like this sauna. But that Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's a difference between dry heat and humidity. Like
Speaker 1: I like to dry heat when you go out and
Speaker 1: you know it's hot and you might need to put
Speaker 1: some some block on or else you're gonna be read
Speaker 1: by the time you come back in. But when it's humid,
Speaker 1: to me, it's disgusting. What are you taking shots at
Speaker 1: my Irish fair skin by saying you're gonna go outside
Speaker 1: and come back read Listen? I would know I would too,
Speaker 1: I will come back red. To know you have a
Speaker 1: darker complexion than me. You were. You know you don't
Speaker 1: get too burned. I don't think I get burned back
Speaker 1: of my neck, but not not that anyone cares about that.
Speaker 1: Nobody does. And let me tell you something, Tom Bowls
Speaker 1: would sign up for this weather in a heartbeat if
Speaker 1: he could get it for training camp. Yeah, but he's
Speaker 1: also crazy, considering he wears longs and longs on the
Speaker 1: sidewise during training camp in the heat. Yeah, I know why,
Speaker 1: I know why a lot of the coaches do it.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy to me. So what isn't it? Isn't
Speaker 1: it a tactic to lose weight to sweat more? I
Speaker 1: think something for some people it is. I don't know
Speaker 1: if everybody out there with sweatshirts and long pants are
Speaker 1: necessarily trying to lose weight. I don't know the method
Speaker 1: to the madness, but yes, certainly you can lose a
Speaker 1: lot of pounds out there and water weight, but I
Speaker 1: just think that's water weight, don't you just put it
Speaker 1: right back on? Probably what I feel like coaches in
Speaker 1: training camp don't have a lot of time to themselves,
Speaker 1: so that would be that's like their workout. He just sweat. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. What was recently revealed in One
Speaker 1: Jet Strive, the Facebook watched series that our production crew
Speaker 1: has been putting together on the first installment was Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles gets in it and starts working out of four
Speaker 1: twenty two. So if he continues to do that, I'll
Speaker 1: have time to workout in training camp. That's true, That's
Speaker 1: very true, And he referred to One Jet Strive. You
Speaker 1: gotta watch it it's essentially an all access theories that
Speaker 1: encompasses from the end of the seventeen season until the
Speaker 1: beginning of training camp every Tuesday from June to July.
Speaker 1: How about that, you got to dates down. I just
Speaker 1: know it debuts on Facebook Watch at eight o'clock each week,
Speaker 1: and also I think we were purposing some of that
Speaker 1: content on many of our platforms, including Europets dot com,
Speaker 1: But the only place you can watch the episode in
Speaker 1: full every Tuesday is Facebook Watch. And there you go.
Speaker 1: So now that that's out of the way again, that's
Speaker 1: called one Jets Drive. Let's rewind the clock here. Minicamps
Speaker 1: just happened a couple of weeks ago. Let's go a
Speaker 1: position by position, and we're not gonna break it down
Speaker 1: fully because in a little down the road here he
Speaker 1: and I are gonna have a training camp preview and
Speaker 1: that seems like it's a while away, but it's really not,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me. But nonetheless, let's recap what
Speaker 1: happened in minicamp, and minicamp is just a glorified O
Speaker 1: t A in the sense that there are still no pads,
Speaker 1: team periods, individual periods still happen. The only difference is
Speaker 1: that players can spend more time in the building and
Speaker 1: there's more meetings behind the scenes. So from a fans perspective,
Speaker 1: it's basically the same as ot as A. That mini
Speaker 1: camp is three days, is a three day stretch, more
Speaker 1: hours in the building for the players. That's about it.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, e A, let's break things
Speaker 1: down like position by position, what we learned, whatever, Let's
Speaker 1: just start where I believe most fans want to know
Speaker 1: about is under center, and the status right now is
Speaker 1: Josh mccount, Teddy Bridgewater and Sam donald All of them
Speaker 1: looked very impressive at different times throughout O t A
Speaker 1: s A Mini camp. You know what, what do you
Speaker 1: what's your read on this situation right now? I know
Speaker 1: that Josh mccount has been named starter by coach Todd Bowles,
Speaker 1: but it seems that he's gonna play whoever the best
Speaker 1: player is come September. Well, yeah, just to clarify that
Speaker 1: a little bit, is that he's the starter entering training camp,
Speaker 1: and Teddy bridgewaters the two and Sam Donaldson number three.
Speaker 1: But that really doesn't mean too much because Todd Bowls
Speaker 1: also said we'll see what happens that the under training camp.
Speaker 1: What he saw throughout the spring Greens was Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: He got the most reps with the first team offense,
Speaker 1: but Sam Donald also received reps with the first team offense. Predominantly,
Speaker 1: what we saw was Teddy Bridgewater getting reps with the
Speaker 1: second team. The other thing that we have to clarify
Speaker 1: for fans everywhere is that when people ask myself, when
Speaker 1: people ask Ethan Greenberg, when people ask Olivia Land, is
Speaker 1: Randy Lang and all the Jets beat reporters out there?
Speaker 1: Where did they see this spring? We only saw six
Speaker 1: practices if you include three O t A s and
Speaker 1: all three mini camp practices. But they had ten O
Speaker 1: t A s, so you're missing seven. And I think
Speaker 1: the one day UH the Jets didn't actually practice, so
Speaker 1: you're missing six. So you didn't even see He saw
Speaker 1: about half of the times they were out there in
Speaker 1: the football field, but all on all UH Greens. I
Speaker 1: would say that all the quarterbacks, from what I saw
Speaker 1: in my five times being able to watch some practice,
Speaker 1: I thought all the quarterbacks that relatively strong camps. Would
Speaker 1: you say that, I think that they did. It seemed
Speaker 1: that each player had a different time which they looked
Speaker 1: very good. So one day it was Teddy, one day
Speaker 1: it was Josh, one day it was Sam. The thing
Speaker 1: that's interesting to me is once Sam Donald was drafted
Speaker 1: third overall back in April, everyone kind of pointed to, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: how likely is it that Sam Donald is going to
Speaker 1: start in his first year? You know, with Josh McCown
Speaker 1: as being being a mentor and Teddy in the room
Speaker 1: as well. So reading the tea leaves now it seems
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald is going to have every opportunity and
Speaker 1: training camp to have that opportunity to go out and
Speaker 1: grab the job is starting quarterback. Now I could be
Speaker 1: wrong about that, but what you said before when Josh
Speaker 1: is getting a lot of reps with the ones and
Speaker 1: Sam was, and Sam really had a lot of reps
Speaker 1: in minicamp and O t s as a whole. Correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, or maybe if you read it differently,
Speaker 1: But it seems to me that Todd Bowles it was
Speaker 1: serious and sticking to his guns when he said we're
Speaker 1: not gonna throw him in there, but we're not gonna
Speaker 1: hold him back either. All Right, So here's the thing
Speaker 1: with Donald's This is the thing that jumps out of
Speaker 1: you Todd Bull says, this guy is very good at
Speaker 1: retaining information. Todd Bull said that he does not repeat
Speaker 1: the same mistake twice. Jeremy Bates, the Jets offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: who was also the team's quarterbacks coach, said he's doing
Speaker 1: an excellent job making the pro transition as far as
Speaker 1: taking snaps under center and also commanding that huddle. Josh
Speaker 1: McCown has been impressed with the rookies work ethic. There
Speaker 1: is a great chemistry inside that him. Uh. He is sudden,
Speaker 1: as Jeremy Bates said, which is something that we referred
Speaker 1: to before the draft Greens, is that he can make
Speaker 1: plays off script. He has a strong arm, He is
Speaker 1: very athletic. He has impressed his teammates. Leonard william said
Speaker 1: he looks like a prol already. So I what I
Speaker 1: think people should do is just take a second and
Speaker 1: go back to January and say, well, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be your quarterback situation in June. Just think where you're
Speaker 1: January one, when the Jets were cleaning out their lockers
Speaker 1: after losing to New England Patriots and finished in the
Speaker 1: season five and eleven. Now fast forward to where they're
Speaker 1: gonna be in late July, where you have Josh mccowennor's
Speaker 1: resigned coming off a career, you're one of the better
Speaker 1: mentors in the National Football League. You can make an argument,
Speaker 1: uh as Jordan Palmer did right saying that if he
Speaker 1: had a draft and he were to pick a veteran
Speaker 1: quarterback to be paired with the young quarterback, he would
Speaker 1: pick Josh McCown umber one overall. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Josh mcconnen is in fantastic athletic shape. Again, then you
Speaker 1: get Sam Donald, who a lot of people thought was
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one overall selection. Of course, Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns went to Baker Mayfield and then finally Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: The Jets make that low risk, potentially high reward maneuver
Speaker 1: by signing him to a deal. I've been very impressed
Speaker 1: with him on a number of levels, including what you're
Speaker 1: seeing from Jeremy Bates offense is a lot of roll offs.
Speaker 1: Let'll tell you what. He looks fine over he does
Speaker 1: and he throws the ball. All these all these guys
Speaker 1: throw the ball very well. They arm strength, no question here.
Speaker 1: All right, He's impressed. So that's the quarterback situation there now,
Speaker 1: that's all we're gonna talk about it about quarterbacks. It's
Speaker 1: just a quick review. And then I want to say
Speaker 1: this Greens the case I mentioned this, it was, uh,
Speaker 1: you did a recent interview with the Bills guys. John
Speaker 1: Murphy there played by play guy and Chris Brown, who
Speaker 1: it just does a fan fantastic job for Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: dot Com. I was on there, uh one Bills Live.
Speaker 1: Actually the show is recently and I told him I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if any of the three started week one,
Speaker 1: if Bridgewater was out there in Detroit. It wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a crazy upset to me either. About that one. I
Speaker 1: don't think you'd be crazy either. And all three of them,
Speaker 1: all three of them going into camp. I am serious
Speaker 1: about this, all three of them going into camp with
Speaker 1: legitimate shot at this job. And to come full circle,
Speaker 1: you're right about it, Todd Bowls and not put any
Speaker 1: timetable on Sam Donald. If he's ready to go, don't
Speaker 1: put him out there week one in Motor City. You
Speaker 1: ever been to a baseball game where they have one
Speaker 1: of those displays on the jumbo tron where the three
Speaker 1: trains or whatever, like one pulls ahead and you guess
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it feels to me because Josh
Speaker 1: McCown is the front or the lead horse right now.
Speaker 1: But depending upon what happened raining camp, maybe one week
Speaker 1: it's Teddy, then it's Sam, and then only one guy
Speaker 1: can emerge week one in Detroit Monday night. So we'll
Speaker 1: see about that obviously, that this is the man, since
Speaker 1: we're just we're just getting well, are you saying that
Speaker 1: because the final leg? No, I'm not talking about it,
Speaker 1: because we're just getting out of the gates and this
Speaker 1: is a long track. Okay, Okay, I like that. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe we're saying because I don't know who's who's
Speaker 1: my justify here, I'm not ready not you're justified. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a long track and we're just
Speaker 1: getting out of the gates, all right. I like that analogy. Now,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks aside, let's talk about the running backs for a second. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it's a little difficult to decipher what happens because they're
Speaker 1: not wearing pads, and same goes for most contact positions
Speaker 1: like O line, D line, cornerbacks too as well. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about this for a second. Here is running backs.
Speaker 1: You got a pretty crowded backfield right there with Isaiah Royl,
Speaker 1: who the Jets signing free agent to see bal pal,
Speaker 1: Eli McGuire and Thomas Rawls, who is a guy that
Speaker 1: had a fantastic rookie season, did some great things in
Speaker 1: Seattle and then kind of tailed off. But he seemed
Speaker 1: like he had some nice burst in his step. Although,
Speaker 1: like I said, no pads, this is gonna be a position.
Speaker 1: Oh excuse me? How could I forget Trent and Camp? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jets six round draft pick who's primarily a returner as
Speaker 1: of now, or it seems to be. But he's got
Speaker 1: some wheels, so I wouldn't be surprised if he got
Speaker 1: the most work out of anybody in the preseason work. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: But as it stands now is don't you think that
Speaker 1: this is I say, more interesting camp battles to come
Speaker 1: because it's a crowded room, Like do you really carry
Speaker 1: four running backs? Now? Listen, Here's what I'll say, is
Speaker 1: that is it interesting? I was? I think the Jets
Speaker 1: there are no starters in the group. I think it's
Speaker 1: a solid group. We always talk about bal polished production,
Speaker 1: and he's the longest tenure guy in those roster, and
Speaker 1: all this guy does every years seemed to do something
Speaker 1: new and to make the most out of every time
Speaker 1: he touches the ball. Stump Mitchell, just running backs coach,
Speaker 1: said he kind of compared the new back in Isaiah
Speaker 1: Crowell to Paul by saying, listen, they both can run
Speaker 1: it well, they both can catch the ball out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, and they both can block. Obviously crow out
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bigger guy. And then behind
Speaker 1: them Eli McGuire speaking of Stump Mitchell, he's something he
Speaker 1: said some very very impressive things. He made a comparison,
Speaker 1: and I think Todd Bowls didn't walk that back. It's
Speaker 1: just tough for coaches sometimes to make comparisons. He's I
Speaker 1: think he was just being very complimentary to Eli McGuire
Speaker 1: and he was just saying that here's another guy can
Speaker 1: do a lot of things. Yeah. I think that's what
Speaker 1: goes overlooked is that he wasn't saying Eli is LaDainian Tomlinson.
Speaker 1: But for those who missed it, Stump Mitchell said, Eli
Speaker 1: McGuire has Ladanian Tomlinson qualities, meaning that he can do
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything from a running back standing
Speaker 1: and then he's got some explosion too, because that's what
Speaker 1: Ladinian Thomlinson was especially around his career, was oh wow,
Speaker 1: was the explosive and he and listen, if you're Elie McGuire,
Speaker 1: to listen to that, that's got to give you confidence.
Speaker 1: But you just look at those three guys like, okay,
Speaker 1: well we got a pretty good backfield. And then you
Speaker 1: mentioned Rols interesting guy because uh North South tough, um,
Speaker 1: you know, where does he fit into the equation? And
Speaker 1: then Trenton Cannon and like you mentioned, he's in a
Speaker 1: mix to be the returner right away. And then finally
Speaker 1: with Cannon, is that Stump Mitchell said, listen, speed home
Speaker 1: run hitter. He's got to learn how to change up
Speaker 1: speeds on the professional level, which means setting up blocks
Speaker 1: and things of that nature. You're very early on in
Speaker 1: his career. It's a solid group, right. The other thing
Speaker 1: about Stump that I want to say in regard to
Speaker 1: the Ladinian talents and Eli comparison is, if you're a
Speaker 1: fan and you're reading, who the heck is Stump Mitchell
Speaker 1: and what does he know? To his credit, he said
Speaker 1: that he told the same thing what he did to
Speaker 1: Elon McGuire to David Johnson before he became David Johnson,
Speaker 1: because Mitchell was his coach in Arizona. So there's a
Speaker 1: bit of a resume there per se for Mitchell. But
Speaker 1: the last thing about the running backs that I want
Speaker 1: to touch on is Rick Dennison is the new old
Speaker 1: line coach. So historically the Dennison scheme is a bit
Speaker 1: of more of a zone outside zone scheme. So do
Speaker 1: you think that plays into the strengths of the of
Speaker 1: these running backs or do you think that it doesn't matter. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Crowell is a bit of a question mark here because
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him run for his career. But how
Speaker 1: about this for a tidbit on Crowell. He's one of
Speaker 1: two running backs to not miss a game over the
Speaker 1: last four seasons, and the other running back is Frank Or,
Speaker 1: who's now a Miami Dolphin. Is pretty amazing. He's still gone.
Speaker 1: I think if frank Or is my age, Frank frank
Speaker 1: Or is amazing that for he's the fact that he
Speaker 1: comes back every season and he's healthy and he puts
Speaker 1: up numbers. It's it's very very impressive and I think
Speaker 1: overlooked as well. But you think that maybe for someone
Speaker 1: like balal and Eli this this is a system that
Speaker 1: fits their running style more I want, I would I
Speaker 1: say more, no, no, no, I would say that they're
Speaker 1: gonna be be able to adapt to the system. Um.
Speaker 1: I think of the running game, and I think up front,
Speaker 1: you gotta be a in sync with the players up front.
Speaker 1: And I know we're gonna be talking about the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think, uh, when you talk about the Jets in
Speaker 1: the ground this year, is how are they going to
Speaker 1: adapt to Rick Dennison up front? And how are the
Speaker 1: guys gonna mesh? And you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: jump to offensive line to early on the greens, but
Speaker 1: I would say that you put al Po in any system.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be effective in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I think row While is a guy who's very interesting
Speaker 1: because he just came from a Cleveland team that was
Speaker 1: one in thirty one over the last thirty two games.
Speaker 1: So you know, I would imagine Cleveland had to go
Speaker 1: away from the run a lot early in ball games.
Speaker 1: You know, one of the questions that we're going to
Speaker 1: tackle on New York Just dot Com before trainee camp
Speaker 1: is who's the guy is gonna lead the backs in
Speaker 1: terms of total yards, who's gonna be the guy gets
Speaker 1: the most rushed attempts in the backfield, Who's gonna have
Speaker 1: the most yards on the ground, Because, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of skill sets back there. But there's versatility
Speaker 1: and um diversity, and I think the Jets got a
Speaker 1: good group up front. Now, talking about the big dudes
Speaker 1: in the offensive line, I don't really want to touch
Speaker 1: a whole lot on them just because they can't. They
Speaker 1: can't block people in mini camp and O T A s.
Speaker 1: But what I will say is that it was nice
Speaker 1: to see Spencer Long towards the end of mini camp
Speaker 1: get some team reps because in the beginning he was
Speaker 1: only taking part in the individual drills and in many
Speaker 1: camp up again, no starters as of now. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happened in training camp. But the offensive line up
Speaker 1: front is as you'd expect, with left to right, Calvin Beecham,
Speaker 1: James Carpenter, Spencer Long, Brian Winners, and Brandon Shell. Well.
Speaker 1: The big thing here is there there is an addition
Speaker 1: even though you didn't sign a new player per se,
Speaker 1: because Brian Winners was hurt in Week two last year
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Uh, the groin uh Abdaman. I guess Daman
Speaker 1: issue we had. He said he wouldn't wish that at
Speaker 1: his worst enemy, and he played through that for most
Speaker 1: of the season. I think you're gonna see a new
Speaker 1: player that guard position. I've always thought carp has been
Speaker 1: a solid guard. Beach him at left tackle, I think listen,
Speaker 1: he brings his lunch pal to work. I think he
Speaker 1: was pretty dependable out there. And Brandon Shell still a
Speaker 1: developing guy on the right side. So what the Jets
Speaker 1: didn't free agency too is they replenished their depth. The
Speaker 1: quoted Dozer's back. He's a guy Todd Bowles uh lauded
Speaker 1: as far as his improvement last year. So he's a
Speaker 1: guy of rusty guy in the middle. Travis Swanson is
Speaker 1: a guy who Green's. When I was out there, I
Speaker 1: think he was coming in maybe third center, because what
Speaker 1: the Jets were doing when Spencer Long wasn't taking those
Speaker 1: first team reps at center, it was Jonathan Harrison, who
Speaker 1: the Jets also resigned in the off season. Ben I
Speaker 1: Jelana back. He can play either right, right or left tackle,
Speaker 1: so you know you got some depth there at the position. Um.
Speaker 1: But the guy to watch I think for all folks,
Speaker 1: especially in the summertime, it's a it's a key position
Speaker 1: here and Jets fans know this better than anybody because
Speaker 1: they've been spoiled. They had an unbelievable run from Kevin
Speaker 1: Mway to Nick Megel and he talked about Brian Winners
Speaker 1: there for a second, how it's an addition, but without
Speaker 1: a resigning, the same could The same case could be
Speaker 1: made for the wide receivers because Quincy and Noon was
Speaker 1: should be back from a nick and from a neck
Speaker 1: injury suffered at last year Green and White practice and
Speaker 1: didn't play the entire season after really a breakout season
Speaker 1: in sixteen, and this receiving corps is not talked about often,
Speaker 1: I think from a national perspective, but those guys are
Speaker 1: very confident in the group. And from top to bottom
Speaker 1: you have Robby Anderson and Jamaine Curse were the two
Speaker 1: main horses last year. Then you get Quincy and Noon
Speaker 1: we back. You signed Terrell Prior, who had in a
Speaker 1: thousand yards season in Cleveland before an injury, played year
Speaker 1: in Washington last year. And then someone that's been talked
Speaker 1: about a lot since the offseason program started up as
Speaker 1: Chad Hanson and he's looked like a different player from
Speaker 1: year one to year two. And then of course our
Speaker 1: areas Stewart, who is the second year player. That that's
Speaker 1: a very interesting room as all and the receivers or
Speaker 1: I mean, we could talk about each one of those
Speaker 1: guys and even the guys we haven't talked about yet,
Speaker 1: but that's gonna be a very interesting dynamic to see
Speaker 1: who who shows up when the pads are on. Robby
Speaker 1: Anderson to me, is an elite talent. He could become
Speaker 1: one of the finer receivers in the entire National Football League.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about Division, I'm not talking about FC,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the NFL. He's he's a unique talent.
Speaker 1: Uh A noon while is a guy who finally got
Speaker 1: the helman on late mini camp and he's made some progress.
Speaker 1: So let's see what happens early on in training camp
Speaker 1: when the pads are popping, and let's see how his
Speaker 1: progress is taking shape. But he was a guy while
Speaker 1: I always thought Green's was an energy guy where he
Speaker 1: can change the complexion of a game by making plays
Speaker 1: because his teammates fed off him. Likewise, the and base
Speaker 1: fed off him. Uh. Prior as a guy that got
Speaker 1: off to slow start to spring because with the ankle um,
Speaker 1: he vows to be ready to start a training camp.
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, the last time he was healthy two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. So the big thing for him, by the way,
Speaker 1: speaking of big, he's a monstrous guy who can run
Speaker 1: very well, is he's gonna have to stay healthy. Hanson
Speaker 1: took some steps forward during the spring. Todd Bowls likes
Speaker 1: to remind us it's shorts and T shirts out there,
Speaker 1: So what's gonna happen in training camp? You mentioned Stewart
Speaker 1: and there's some other veterans out there as well. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you think about how far this wide receiver group
Speaker 1: has come since maybe last May or June, it's really something.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know again, I gotta go back
Speaker 1: to Anderson. I think he has elite ability um and
Speaker 1: maybe he can take the next step as far as
Speaker 1: being the next Jets of thousand yard receiver. He probably
Speaker 1: is gonna be a last year before Josh McCown got hurt.
Speaker 1: That's pretty big, Craisy, I like it, Uh real quick
Speaker 1: about prior did you see the article about Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess the Redskins might be out for blood. Yeah, about that. Huh.
Speaker 1: I guess that like Prior making one handed catches and
Speaker 1: posterizing him last year, that's what it sounds like to
Speaker 1: make I know he do be clarified. Here's what happened.
Speaker 1: Here's what happened. There's an article that surfaced from Zach Brown,
Speaker 1: the linebacker from the Redskins, that said, Yeah, the defense
Speaker 1: is gonna be real excited when the Jets come down
Speaker 1: to Virginia for that weekend training camp because they want
Speaker 1: to get their hands on Terrell Prior because apparently there
Speaker 1: was a no hands rule I guess or they couldn't
Speaker 1: touch him. And apparently Terrell Pryor was making one handed
Speaker 1: grabs in practice. Didn't like his showmanship so well, And
Speaker 1: he's probably talking a little bit. And as we noticed
Speaker 1: in mini camp, like Todd Boll said, the Jets have
Speaker 1: about seven or eight coaches included who be on the
Speaker 1: all time trash talking team. Uh so listen talking as
Speaker 1: part of the game. Some guys talk, some guys don't.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe Terrell talked a little bit out there.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine feelings were that hurt about him making
Speaker 1: catches during practice. Yeah, that's hard to believe. He had
Speaker 1: to have said something to take some people off. So whatever,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens when we get down there. There's
Speaker 1: much to do about and nothing but Zach Brown. Keep
Speaker 1: up to work with the music. Got a good band going.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's switch to the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Here is uh again up front with the D line
Speaker 1: is it's hard to really say how players performed because
Speaker 1: there are no pads yet, so we could talk about
Speaker 1: right now in mini camp or what happened a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Is that the the first team I'm
Speaker 1: doing air quotes. You can't see him, but first team
Speaker 1: D line included Steven Clended, Leonard Williams, Nathan Shephard and
Speaker 1: if it was a four down front, Henry Anderson was
Speaker 1: also involved in there. So those four guys or some
Speaker 1: combination are probably going to be up there day one,
Speaker 1: Opening Night, Motor City, Detroit, Monday Night Football and complete sentences.
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams wants to finish more this year. I thought
Speaker 1: he was disruptive last year's around the quarterback. He played
Speaker 1: through some injury last year or two, never complained about it.
Speaker 1: But he's taking some leadership responsibility, as one might expect
Speaker 1: since he is the guy. There's no Sheldon Richards, there's
Speaker 1: no Mohammad Wilkerson. Snacks Harrison of course continues to play
Speaker 1: across town. But what the Jets really did over draft weekend,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this here on the official podcast
Speaker 1: and every platform that we're on Greens, is that they
Speaker 1: dramatically revamped that line. Let's see what Henry Anderson brings
Speaker 1: to the table. You got good value there sending a
Speaker 1: seventh round pick to the Colts. He said he feels
Speaker 1: healthy again fromiliar with the scheme three four. Nathan Shephard,
Speaker 1: third round pick out of Fort Hay State, tremendous story.
Speaker 1: Will get into that on one Jets drive. You gotta
Speaker 1: check that out, folks. Uh. But he's a guy who
Speaker 1: was drafted in a third round for a reason. He
Speaker 1: could play join that rotation immediately. Top Bowls loves his
Speaker 1: hands as far as his striking ability up front. For
Speaker 1: Lonzo Fatukasi from Connecticut, a sixth round pick right for
Speaker 1: the Jets. So uh, McLendon is there, and he's kind
Speaker 1: of like he's kind of like the old savvy vet
Speaker 1: and the wise philosopher, and he did some good things
Speaker 1: playing at that nose position for the Jets, but overall,
Speaker 1: when you look at the defensive line unit, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be fascinating to track their progress individually and as group,
Speaker 1: because it's definitely a different unit than we've seen in
Speaker 1: the past. I love the way you say Florenzo Parks
Speaker 1: because there always has to be some kind of dramatics
Speaker 1: to because of the name. It's like it's like ordering
Speaker 1: an Italian dish that you need to say in some
Speaker 1: form of Italian way like it. Well, you know, it's
Speaker 1: never like Faleronzo Faloronzo. Yes, that's correct, because you know why,
Speaker 1: because I take a lot of pride in it, because
Speaker 1: I get it. Because draft weekend, I said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can call him fully And I said, do you
Speaker 1: want to be called fully? And he goes, no, I'd
Speaker 1: rather be called by my name, And I said, I
Speaker 1: got you. I appreciate yea. He said, people don't even
Speaker 1: give it a yeah right, yeah. I get that. That's respectable.
Speaker 1: But I like the way that you say it because
Speaker 1: it's always there's always some fine and it's not it's
Speaker 1: never just saying, like you know Eric All and Ethan Dreamer, Yes,
Speaker 1: yes for Alonzo all right, let's let's move back to
Speaker 1: the linebackers. Now, is darrenly Avery Williamson men in the
Speaker 1: middle there, And again the eyes in training camp are
Speaker 1: on the guys behind those guys because that's a bit
Speaker 1: crowded with Kevin Mentor, Kevin pre Lewis and Neville Hewitt
Speaker 1: and Brandon Copeland. I think he's playing some inside some outside,
Speaker 1: so that's another crowded room. But again, until the running
Speaker 1: backs and the old line and the D line gets
Speaker 1: the pads on, the linebackers can't really do much. Well yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean, what's next for Lee year three? We
Speaker 1: know the big thing that jumped out to us, I
Speaker 1: think was that he's the guy he's going to take
Speaker 1: the defensive signals as far as that communication is concerned.
Speaker 1: So who have to be very vocal with his teammates. Obviously,
Speaker 1: no David Harris here, No Damario Davis. Avery Williamson comes in, um,
Speaker 1: and let's see how that parent works out. Williamson was
Speaker 1: a guy who was known for his uh stopping the run,
Speaker 1: that prowess in Tennessee. Now he comes up north and
Speaker 1: then an outside linebacker. I think it's you know, that's
Speaker 1: one of the spots when we look of position battles,
Speaker 1: is that's gonna be one for us to watch because
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna need some production on the outside
Speaker 1: and we'll see how that all unfolds. Valuable erupts for
Speaker 1: a lot of guys this spring. Because Jordan Jenkins a
Speaker 1: little nicked up with the shoulders so he didn't participate
Speaker 1: out there, and because he was out of Josh Martin
Speaker 1: and David Bass for the majority, Lorenzo Malden seemed It's
Speaker 1: difficult to say, but he was in the backfield a
Speaker 1: lot and you heard a lot of ooz and oz
Speaker 1: and props from the guys standing on the side. The
Speaker 1: pass was productive in one of the time last year,
Speaker 1: I think he led the Jets three and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: That led the team. I think, didn't it. I think
Speaker 1: Demario led it with but David Bass at two and
Speaker 1: a half and he had like two sacks in his
Speaker 1: first two weeks that he came here. Is that what
Speaker 1: it was? I think? So, So he's second on the
Speaker 1: team and set okay. Also also just side note forty
Speaker 1: seven as an outside linebacker. Interesting number choice, Yeah, Josh
Speaker 1: Martin an ugly number. The Columbia alum. I mean he
Speaker 1: was guy who was starting a cross from Jenkins for
Speaker 1: most of the last year. Malden told our Randy lying, Hey,
Speaker 1: list and you know, I know, and this is basically
Speaker 1: put up for shop, shut up for me. He knows.
Speaker 1: It's a big camp. Uh dealt with that back injury
Speaker 1: all last year. So we'll have to see what he
Speaker 1: brings to the table. Brandon Copeland guy came over from Detroit.
Speaker 1: Actually another IVY League guy. I think he played collegially
Speaker 1: in the Ivy League. So outside line linebacker, Yeah, outside
Speaker 1: linebacker is gonna be fascinating um for me because you
Speaker 1: want to see a couple of guys stuff up there.
Speaker 1: But Jordan Jenkins, I think he's just gonna continue to improve.
Speaker 1: He's a solid player who's mostly gonna line up across
Speaker 1: from that tighten. He's gonna be your strong side linebacker.
Speaker 1: Oh we didn't even talk about the tight ends. I
Speaker 1: forgot about them. Oh you did, yeah about that. But
Speaker 1: we always can jump back. Yeah, we'll jump back, all right.
Speaker 1: So let's wrap things up here with the defense, with
Speaker 1: the corners and the safeties. Now, the corners, of course,
Speaker 1: it's Tremayne Johnson Morris Clayborne didn't see a whole lot
Speaker 1: of time in minicamp because he had a hand injury.
Speaker 1: He was in a soft cast or in some form
Speaker 1: of cast on the sideline, and then behind him his
Speaker 1: buster screen. And you have Perry Nickerson. And that's another
Speaker 1: crowded room because Justin Burris and Darryl Roberts are two
Speaker 1: guys that saw a considerable amount of time the past
Speaker 1: two seasons. And then how about he got Jeremy Clark
Speaker 1: back who hasn't even participated in training camp because he
Speaker 1: tores a c L his senior year and then he
Speaker 1: missed essentially his entire rookie season. Derek Jones back, So
Speaker 1: that is a very very crowded spot. And we haven't
Speaker 1: even talked about the safeties there really not want to
Speaker 1: say it with the secondary, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: to be sarcastic. I think this unit should have set
Speaker 1: its sights on being one of the top defensive backfields
Speaker 1: in the national football From a talent perspective, they have it.
Speaker 1: I think Thenard Wilson is a tremendous position coach and
Speaker 1: he's really on the same page as these guys. The
Speaker 1: thing that stood out to me about Johnson is he's
Speaker 1: a monstrous cornerback. He's a big quarterback size, and he's
Speaker 1: gonna bring some uh savvy technique to the outside ball hawk.
Speaker 1: He is also gonna make Morris Clayborn and Buster Screen
Speaker 1: better because I think they're gonna have more opportunities on
Speaker 1: the ball. Um. Jamal Adams, really you're starting to see
Speaker 1: him become more and more of a leader. Yes, he's
Speaker 1: a trash talker, but he also is an energy guy.
Speaker 1: He wants to win. Uh. Doug Middleton benefited from Marcus
Speaker 1: May being out this spring because he was able to
Speaker 1: get those first team reps, and the Jets made a
Speaker 1: nice signing I thought late after Rountez Miles went down
Speaker 1: by bringing in J. J. Wilcox, another guy with experience
Speaker 1: bottom line Greens. I don't have too much to say
Speaker 1: about the second area. I expect them to be really
Speaker 1: strength of this team, and they can help out the
Speaker 1: pass rush because if you're playing more man on the
Speaker 1: outside and you're locking tight ends up, maybe with your
Speaker 1: safety man up, then you're gonna freeze some rushers and
Speaker 1: you're gonna help that pass rush. All right, let's jump
Speaker 1: back to offense. Real quick because I forgot tight ends.
Speaker 1: My bad. This is who we got right now. Jordan Leggett,
Speaker 1: Neil Sterling, Eric Tomlinson, Chris Herndon, Clive Walford, Bucky Hodges.
Speaker 1: That's that's the situation right now. And you know, Neil
Speaker 1: Sterling is interesting to me because he always makes plays
Speaker 1: of practice. Yeah that that that that granted there were
Speaker 1: no no pads and coaches the first one to point
Speaker 1: that out. But him and Eric Tomlinson are guys that
Speaker 1: to two separate seasons. They joined the team. But Eric
Speaker 1: Tomlinson was like a waiver claim in twenty sixteen and
Speaker 1: he's managed to carve out a little role for himself.
Speaker 1: And last year Neil Sterling was on the team mid
Speaker 1: season he came from jack sin Vale and then he
Speaker 1: was off the team, and then against the Patriots in
Speaker 1: Week seventeen, he had like a forty yard completion and
Speaker 1: since then, it just seems like the trend is pointing up.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson likes this entire group, I will say that,
Speaker 1: And that's was what I thought after you heard him
Speaker 1: speak to the media. So Green's I think you look
Speaker 1: at Thomlinson. They formn s in Thomlinson is. He is
Speaker 1: your blocker, but he also can catch the football. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jordan Laggett, you know, after going down in the preseason
Speaker 1: Detroit last year, this is a big training camp for him.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, the Jets tightowns coach, said he is a
Speaker 1: rookie because he missed all of last year, but he's
Speaker 1: a guy who flashed with his hands at Clemson. Chris
Speaker 1: Hernon is a guy who I think the Jets like
Speaker 1: the total package as far as he can block, inline block.
Speaker 1: He also can get out run the patterns, run, run
Speaker 1: the route tree and pick up yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: And he made some plays in the spring. And then
Speaker 1: you mentioned some of these other guys who've had pro experience,
Speaker 1: Clive Warford and Bucky Hodges, so it Um and Neil
Speaker 1: Neil Sterling as well, because like we just talked about it,
Speaker 1: he seems to pop on the screen a little bit.
Speaker 1: So I don't think the Jets are avoided talent there.
Speaker 1: But how is it all going to come together? Austin
Speaker 1: Saverian Jenkins made that comeback last year. He's signing free
Speaker 1: off season with the Jacksonville Jaguars. No. A s J
Speaker 1: means more opportunities for some guys. Uh here, Jimmy Johnson
Speaker 1: did say all of them can catch football, not only
Speaker 1: tight end, but pretty much everything we talked about. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be very interesting to see how it all played
Speaker 1: out because there's a different ballgame when the pads come on.
Speaker 1: And for me, I think that training camp is gonna
Speaker 1: be very interesting because there are so many interesting camp
Speaker 1: battles that we didn't talk about. The special teams or
Speaker 1: even like returners. You get to talk about Andre rob
Speaker 1: and Trenton Cannon that returns, and a kicker. There's Cairo
Speaker 1: Santos who hasn't kicked yet. And then you have Taylor
Speaker 1: Birdelette who was a rookie MINIKV tryout player that signment team.
Speaker 1: He was on the Rams a little bit last season,
Speaker 1: and he's got a very strong leg. He's got it,
Speaker 1: he's got a boot. So it'll be interesting. Santos Santos
Speaker 1: working his way back from YEA. So positions, head to toe, offense, defense,
Speaker 1: special teams, everything, it's gonna be very interesting for me
Speaker 1: to see how it all plays out. More depth on
Speaker 1: the roster, that's one thing, you know, That's one thing
Speaker 1: you can see in the spring is so listen, there's
Speaker 1: more depth on the roster period. You're you're starting to
Speaker 1: see Mike mcagnan's vision take shape. And uh, one of
Speaker 1: the things in the past was you one of what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen in a quarterback position. Wow, I think we're
Speaker 1: starting to see that take hold too. So I think
Speaker 1: if you're a fan, I'm not gonna say it's gonna
Speaker 1: be clear selling, but I think the roster is getting better.
Speaker 1: I think Todd Bowles is doing a nice job with
Speaker 1: his group, and uh, you know, I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be exciting training camp. Wow, that Scotts was gonna be
Speaker 1: tough out of the gate going to Detroit, not gonna
Speaker 1: be easy coming home against Miami. You kicked their butt
Speaker 1: opening day last year, but they should probably be a
Speaker 1: better team. I would think, Albert Wilson. There you go,
Speaker 1: and then then you get a short week. You gotta
Speaker 1: go to Cleveland, and you know, they got high expectations
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. Who knows
Speaker 1: they're gonna be defending against Tyrod Teller two primetime games
Speaker 1: in the first three weeks, and then week four you're
Speaker 1: playing against one of the most physical outfits in the
Speaker 1: All National Football League Jacksonville. I mean, that's a black
Speaker 1: and blue Sunday. But at least you get ten days
Speaker 1: to prepare for them. But three out of four out
Speaker 1: of the gate. But I'm getting way ahead of myself.
Speaker 1: But we're not even in training camp already, looking at
Speaker 1: looking at October. Hey, and how about training camp this year? Remember, fans,
Speaker 1: you can go to Rutgers for the Jets screen and
Speaker 1: white practice, and then what breaks up training What breaks
Speaker 1: up training camp this year? Greens and I get it.
Speaker 1: Us fans are disappointed because there's not a ton of
Speaker 1: open practices. That's because the Jets are going down to Richmond,
Speaker 1: Virginia to practice with the Redskins for three days before
Speaker 1: they battle with them in that second preseason game. Again,
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