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Speaker 1: get exotic and training camp to try and test those

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Speaker 1: guys in their football IQ? Well, just by the nature

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Speaker 1: of our offensive with him just running his stuff, he

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Speaker 1: tests us because he's got the four wide receiver sets,

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Speaker 1: the three wide, the twelve, the two tight end packages,

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Speaker 1: and then you have Kyler back there doing the quarterback

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Speaker 1: run game, and so all of just facing offense, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to dial anything up. He doesn't just by

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Speaker 1: calling his installs, and we've got to meet the challenge

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Speaker 1: of trying to stop our own offense. Billy, where do

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Speaker 1: you think those defense will improve the most from last season?

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Speaker 1: I mean just a gut feeling of speculation on your part, yes,

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Speaker 1: but a gut feeling. Where do you think it's going

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Speaker 1: to improve the most? Well, we really felt good about

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Speaker 1: the improvements we've made last year. We really jumped up

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Speaker 1: in the rankings, and never know, we say it all

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Speaker 1: the time. It's a scoreboard in the end zone. So

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Speaker 1: points allowed per game are what we really have to

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Speaker 1: focus on. Our sacks were high. Our turnovers, I think

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Speaker 1: are going to increase. One of the things you get

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Speaker 1: when you get to two six four inside backers and

447
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Speaker 1: who can move and run now is a quarterback when

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Speaker 1: you try to hide the lowest and you've got a

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Speaker 1: short little stop route in an end behind it, trying

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Speaker 1: to throw over those two inside You're going to elevate

451
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Speaker 1: your past a little bit to safeties are going to

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Speaker 1: get more balls, I believe. I think there'll be more

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Speaker 1: tips and overthrows, and tips and overthrows in the NFL

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Speaker 1: turn into interceptions. So if I had to pick one

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Speaker 1: area that we're probably gonna make some. And then you

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Speaker 1: have JJ and there's baton balls left and right, and

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Speaker 1: he's an erects havoc in there, and along with Chandler

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Speaker 1: coming off the edge, I just think the quarterbacks are

459
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Speaker 1: going to be under more drests and they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to adjust how they throw, which we get tips and overthrows,

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Speaker 1: and I think our turnovers and interceptions should go go

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Speaker 1: up there and hopefully the points allowed come down. It

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Speaker 1: was hard not to notice JJ Watt today, just his

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Speaker 1: energy right even ran scout team tight end for you

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Speaker 1: guys a little bit. And we know how Steve Kim

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Speaker 1: has spoken to the leadership aspect of bringing him into

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Speaker 1: the locker room. Do you believe in that because a

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Speaker 1: lot of analytics guys say, ah, they dismissed the locker

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Speaker 1: room and the leadership. What do you say about that?

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Speaker 1: I think it's crazy. I think leadership as a monetary value,

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Speaker 1: just like a forty yard dash does. And I think

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Speaker 1: the chemistry on your team is makes all the difference

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Speaker 1: in the world between going deep into a playoffs or

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Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. There's got to be a chemistry,

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Speaker 1: a love respect, of mutual respect of each other. And

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Speaker 1: you need leaders on both sides of the ball. Somebody

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Speaker 1: asked me followers. So you don't need all leaders. You

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Speaker 1: don't need a bunch of alphas that are going to lead.

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Speaker 1: You need one or two really good ones. And they're

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Speaker 1: really good leaders are the ones that will do exactly

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Speaker 1: what you just describe. I'll jump over and where a

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Speaker 1: green hat and be a tight end. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: superstar because above it, because I want the team. I

484
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Speaker 1: put the team first. And when he does it now

485
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Speaker 1: it's so much easier for a young kid that's trying

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Speaker 1: to make his way to say, hey, I'm not embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by wearing this, and absolutely I'm making us better and

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Speaker 1: it Leadership is natural. You can't fake it. Either have

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Speaker 1: it or you don't. And JJ definitely has it, and

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Speaker 1: it is a huge addition and it really makes us

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Speaker 1: better from a lot of other areas that aren't the

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Speaker 1: you know, the forty yard dash and all the other things.

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Speaker 1: It's it's absolutely value. Just listening to you talk right there,

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Speaker 1: Billy is just bringing back a lot of memories right there,

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Speaker 1: because I had a coach that used to say, if

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Speaker 1: you get enough dogs in a locker room, even the

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Speaker 1: cats start barking. You know. I love that saying, because

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Speaker 1: you don't matter. That's all right, Bellie. Absolutely to your points.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you need followers, There's no doubt about it. Not

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Speaker 1: everybody is going to walk around be a leader. It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't work that way. Well, we're about a hundred

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Speaker 1: days away from the Cardinals opener in Tennessee. Zavian Collins,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons meet Derrick Henry at six three, two fifty.

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Speaker 1: So that's when you know accounts for real. Billy, Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your time and the insight tonight. We really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. As always, I appreciate you guys having me

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Speaker 1: always my pleasure. Thank you. Coach. There you go. Bill Davis,

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Speaker 1: a longtime defensive coordinator in the NFL. Cardinals linebackers coach

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Speaker 1: and yeah, it's his task to get those guys ready

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Speaker 1: to go by September. We continue with a big red

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Speaker 1: rage presented by Satan fourd in Gilbert Murray and Shotgun

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Speaker 1: has the football short set, throws a deep ball left

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Speaker 1: side single coverage and it is pulled in by DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins and he's got a touchdown. Just want to throw

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Speaker 1: by Tyler Murray and want to catch by Duke to

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Speaker 1: put the Cardinals on the board with two thirty nine

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Speaker 1: to go on the first Duke was one on one

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Speaker 1: great throw by Kyler Murray, but an even read touchdown.

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Speaker 1: We said it's gonna be Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray,

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Speaker 1: whoever plays better, that's who's gonna win this game. Snaps

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Speaker 1: a Murray and he keeps it himself running left, got

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Speaker 1: a defender with him at the five breaks, the tackle dives,

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Speaker 1: ball comes out, but he crossed the plane. Touchdown Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Somehow Someway found a way to get that pig across Pater.

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Speaker 1: Big time play Kyler Murray, and you know what, the

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Speaker 1: NFL green with their wolf. He was the NFC Player

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Speaker 1: of the Week. That was the Week seven win at

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Speaker 1: home against the Seahawks on Sunday Night where the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: trail ten noth in twenty seven, fourteen thirty four, twenty four.

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Speaker 1: They came back, they won in overtime, and on that

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Speaker 1: thirty five yard touchdown pass to DeAndre Hopkins where the

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Speaker 1: cameras caught him smiling. We think he was smiling. That

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Speaker 1: was the play. Remember Cliff Kingsbury told us on his

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Speaker 1: weekly TV show that they stole from Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: everyone sort of looked at the sideline and looked at

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Speaker 1: like they were confused, and then boom, they snapped in

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Speaker 1: through the touchdown. Yeah, that was absolutely brilliant right there, Paul.

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Speaker 1: He's so many changes on the horizon. I think for

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Speaker 1: this offense, I could be dead wrong, but I think

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Speaker 1: at some point in time, you've got to reimagine re

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Speaker 1: envision this offense and it gets me so excited with

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray at the helm. You know, there's a few

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Speaker 1: stats that came out this week. They continue to crunch

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Speaker 1: the numbers Kyler Murray. He's the only quarterback ever with

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Speaker 1: forty five passing touchdowns in fifteen rushing touchdowns. In his

546
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Speaker 1: first two NFL seasons, he was knocked down a league

547
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Speaker 1: low eight point five percent of the time on passing attempts.

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Speaker 1: Last year, next Gen Stats had him rated the most

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Speaker 1: explosive ball carrier in the NFL. The most explosive meaning

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Speaker 1: a minimum number of carries at least twenty carries of

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Speaker 1: ten plus yards and you have to exceed fifteen plus

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Speaker 1: miles per hour, and so he was number one in

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Speaker 1: that category. I'm not sure what miles pro really factors

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Speaker 1: in ultimately, but well, how much of that running game

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Speaker 1: and Kyler's legs do you expect to see this year? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is a great question once again, Paul, It really

557
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Speaker 1: is because if you look at Kyler Murray, I don't

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Speaker 1: see them continuing to run him to the point in

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Speaker 1: which we saw last year. And I think we know

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Speaker 1: why Kyler is not the biggest guy on the face

561
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Speaker 1: of the planet. And the more you expose him to

562
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Speaker 1: some type of shot, the more damage is going to

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Speaker 1: be done to the body. And now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: if you've got Kyler Murray out there and he's missing games,

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Speaker 1: your chances of winning games go right through the floor, Paul,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, So again, you've got to be

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Speaker 1: careful on this. You don't want to turn him into

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Speaker 1: Michael Vick. And remember the word when Kyler was coming

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Speaker 1: out was he didn't necessarily enjoy the design runs, the

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Speaker 1: called runs. He liked to sort of pick his spots

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Speaker 1: right when he saw a light box or he saw

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Speaker 1: dvs with their backs to him, and then he pull

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Speaker 1: it and run it. And so curious, I maybe to

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Speaker 1: your point, there's fewer design run spot he still has

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Speaker 1: the green light to take off when he wants to

576
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Speaker 1: and bluff Kingsbury today was asked about Kyler Marie's potential

577
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Speaker 1: because we talked about it even back in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: when he saw Baker Mayfield excel and Josh Allen excel

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Speaker 1: in year three, What about Kyler. No, he's been working

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Speaker 1: really hard this off season to try and take that

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Speaker 1: that big jump. I thought, you know, not having an

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Speaker 1: off season last year. Rolling into season two, he made

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Speaker 1: huge strides and then we expect him to make the

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Speaker 1: same this season. He definitely is very confident right now.

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Speaker 1: He's mastered our system. You can see, you know, the

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Speaker 1: leadership qualities continue to emerge, and so we're all just

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Speaker 1: really excited to have him here and watch where the

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Speaker 1: sink can go with him as our leader. And he

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Speaker 1: was out there today. I know SI had written a

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Speaker 1: little bit about you know what they're hearing that Kyler

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Speaker 1: hasn't been in the Cardinals off season program. That was

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago. Well, he was out there today

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Speaker 1: and there was DeAndre Hopkins practicing as well. The two

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Speaker 1: of them are running together and warm ups and then

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Speaker 1: there were a ton of passes, you know, between the

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Speaker 1: two of them over the co of an hour. And

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Speaker 1: so he's wearing a knit cap. It's one hundred plus degrees.

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00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: He's wearing a knit cap out there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: all eyes were on Kyler and that's the way it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be all year. And he's the franchise quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: got to relish that position. You know, there's no data

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Speaker 1: bot it. Polly. DeAndre Hopkins as well, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be very interesting. My number one question for this offense

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Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray is will it be more physical? Will

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Speaker 1: we see a downhill runner in James Connor so to speak,

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Speaker 1: and Chase Edmonds for that matter. Will we see a

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Speaker 1: more physical attack, an assault on the line of scrimmage

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Speaker 1: when it comes to running the football. That's number one, Polly.

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Speaker 1: Number two for me is gonna be DeAndre Hopkins and

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Speaker 1: the alignment of DeAndre Hopkins and the movement of DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins and the movement of this offense overall. Only thirty

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Speaker 1: four percent of their offensive snaps last year had any

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Speaker 1: type of motion to it, Paully, only thirty four percent,

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Speaker 1: which was sixteen percentage points under the league average. Think

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Speaker 1: about that, Paulie. That is a big number right there,

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Speaker 1: that only thirty of their offensive snaps had any motion

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Speaker 1: to it whatsoever. I think maybe this is going to

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Speaker 1: be another change to this offense going for I don't

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Speaker 1: know that to be the case. I just suspected, paul

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Speaker 1: You know, when you cite that stat you know what

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Speaker 1: I think of immediately. Rondale Moore, Yeah, I think of

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Speaker 1: the round two pick and what they want to do

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Speaker 1: because Come on, now, when Cliff Kingsbury arrive with the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, do you ever think they'd be below the

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Speaker 1: league norm the league average in that category? Absolutely nut.

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Speaker 1: So if aj Green can be that outside guy, and

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Speaker 1: Frosty Rutger told us here in the Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: that's his pick for NFL Comeback Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: we'll see that's obviously a best case scenario. Rondel Moore

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Speaker 1: in the slot along with a Christian Kirk or maybe

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Speaker 1: rondel Moore is that swing guy, that jet motion guy

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Speaker 1: doing the sweeps and being the eye candy and and

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Speaker 1: all that. Like you say, Wolf all of a sudden, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe that unlocks DeAndre Hopkins, especially more than last year

635
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Speaker 1: when he was getting double and triple team by the

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Speaker 1: end of the season. Here's Cliff Kingsbury on that. I

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Speaker 1: do think, you know, it took the first half of

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Speaker 1: the season to really kind of get on the same page,

639
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Speaker 1: just not having time on task. And I think even

640
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: out there today watching them communicate talk through things, I

641
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: want to run like this, Hey, I can get him here.

642
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: I think it'll be huge. There'll be a different comfort

643
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: level with those guys. And I'm excited to see where

644
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: it can go. No to talk about it, Bob, We

645
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: talked about this. You can agree or disagree. Really, the

646
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: only guy's yards after catch a year ago on the

647
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: Cardinals offense DeAndre Hopkins Chase Edmonds. Yeah, that has to

648
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: be a bigger component of this year's offense. Hence, once again,

649
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk if he's fully healthy, and Rondel Moore, Yeah, Paul,

650
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: you know what, honestly, Christian Kirk is a guy. You

651
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: know what a big fan I am of Christian Kirk.

652
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: And I just I wonder what happened that first half

653
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: of the season last year. Go back to it, I Paully.

654
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: I think Christian Kirk had like six touchdowns in the

655
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: first half of the season, first nine aims of the season.

656
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: He was all over the place, and then all of

657
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: a sudden, it just tailed right off in the second

658
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: part of the season. And you know, listen, Um, I

659
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: have no idea David Rye was let go as the

660
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach. I don't know if that had anything

661
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: to do with it whatsoever. But Christian Kirk is a

662
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: talented individual and a guy that I have not given

663
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: up on at all right now. But Rondale Moore. You

664
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: bring up the Rondale Moore thing, Paul, this is scary

665
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: is on the wall, Scary is on his way. That's

666
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: Rondale Moore. That is exactly who he is. And hopefully

667
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: he's going to be able to get vertical, get down

668
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: the field. Maybe you're gonna move him around, give him

669
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: that running start, so to speak. Maybe you're gonna move

670
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: him around and not let a defense actually hone in

671
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: on him or try to jam him off the ball,

672
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: and maybe he's gonna get over the top that that

673
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 1: will be a huge benefit to Kyler Murray as well.

674
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: And what's interesting in the division is not long after

675
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals took Rondale Moore, Seattle Seahawk took Duayne Eskridge,

676
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: a similar size type player out of Western Michigan, and

677
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: then a couple of picks after that, the Rams took

678
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: two two at well. So right every one of the

679
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: division teams save one the forty nine ers took their

680
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: smaller speed guy who can excel in space. They all

681
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: did it in a round two and then all three

682
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: of them left. The six two ten receiver from LSU,

683
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: Terrorist Marshall, who was top five all time in receiving

684
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns at LSU. He was still on the board in Carolina.

685
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: Took him not unlike the old Andy Isabella dk Metcalf

686
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: component from a couple of years ago. So that's going

687
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: to be a storyline all year. No man speaking of

688
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: that DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett, are you kidding me? They

689
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: already got a ton of speed at the wide receiver position.

690
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: Better hope they don't land Julio Jones. We'll come back.

691
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: You know what. I've got an addition maybe on the

692
00:36:51,120 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: radar for the Cardinals next pleasure and taking down Ja.

693
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: It's picked up in the air running the other way.

694
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: Where did is JJ one? And he is going to

695
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: go eight blush yard for the touchdown. Full of street

696
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: left around. It's good trump by one picked up running

697
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: with it to the fluty to the thirty, to the twenty.

698
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: He's gone touchdown. What can he do? Look at it?

699
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: Come behind? Here comes one second time. He has gone

700
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: to the quarterback stafford back in the past books. He's

701
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: out upside, intercepted by j j One and he's gonna

702
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: take it in for a touchdown. He the man had

703
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: three receiving touchdowns in two thy fourteen for the Houston Texans.

704
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: And there he was today at the Cardinals first ota

705
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: out in that field, and he's running scout team tight

706
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: end as we mentioned, and he's messing with Byron Murphy

707
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: who was covering him, and he's yelling at him, you

708
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: don't want any of this smoke, and he's trying to

709
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: do an arm over move and wolf. In fact, with

710
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: legalized sports gambling coming by the NFL opener September ninth,

711
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: coming to the AC, I have a prop bet for you.

712
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: Are you ready, Polly? JJ Watt will or will not

713
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: catch a pass for the Arizona Cardinals this year? Oh?

714
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: He will? Oh yeah, there's no doubt about it. Really,

715
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh Polly, I fully expect Cliff Kingsbury to use J. J.

716
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: Watt as a tight end, and not only listen J J. Watt.

717
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: This guy is a physical, physical specimen. This is a

718
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: physical dog. He enjoys the physicality of the game. Why

719
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: not line him up as a stud tight end in

720
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: line and let him come off the ball? Oh yeah, anything.

721
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: The only thing was today he's running the nine route,

722
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: he's running the go route. He's gonna have to run

723
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: a stop route and just get himself, his big body

724
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: between the dB and the football. That's what he's gonna as.

725
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: You can't wait to watch him play, Polly, Seriously, was

726
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: he vocal, Paul, you were out there? Oh, of course today?

727
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Was he vocal? Was he? You know? He's leading with energy,

728
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: He's talking to different guys. Remember Buddha told us a

729
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago here on the Big Red Rage

730
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, that JJ Watt came

731
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: up and consulted him. You know which guy should I

732
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: talk to? What is this guy like? What is his

733
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: personality like? And JJ Watt explain why that's important to

734
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: him to know that. As one of the team leaders today,

735
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: one of the biggest things is understanding who you're dealing with,

736
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: because every single person is different. So it's all about

737
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: cultivating those relationships and really learning your teammates on a

738
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: deeper level so that when you do get in those

739
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: tough times or when you do have to have a

740
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: tough conversation, you understand how that guy best responds. So

741
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: while one guy may respond to me yelling at him

742
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: and getting on him and saying, hey, you're doing this wrong,

743
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: I need you to do it like this. Another guy

744
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: may go into his shell when I do that. So

745
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: for that guy, I may need to go put my

746
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: arm around him and say, hey, I know you're having

747
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 1: a tough time with this. Let me explain why that's

748
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: not how it should be done and why we need

749
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: to do it this way. And then the most important part,

750
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is to be doing everything that you

751
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: possibly can to help the team from your own standpoint. Wow,

752
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: that is just so good right there, Paula. You've got

753
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: to You've got to hold yourself accountable first, right, you

754
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: got to hold yourself to a level that you don't

755
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: expect from your teammates. Paul You do that, and you

756
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 1: will earn instant credibility inside that locker room so that

757
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: you can walk up on a teammate and say, dude,

758
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: what do you do when you're just killing us out there?

759
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: And if you can't play, you can't lead. You know that, Wolf,

760
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: So you know, And look, you talk about JJ Watt

761
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 1: and the impact and you know better than anyone in

762
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: the NFL's not a raw row league. I get it.

763
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: But if JJ Watts around, I don't think the Cardinals

764
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: come out the way they did last year in weeks sixteen,

765
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: I don't think the way they play the way they

766
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: did maybe in weeks seventeen. I just I think that's

767
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: what the decision makers think, and that's why they truly

768
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: valued JJ Watt on and off the field and what

769
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: sort of impact he can make this year. Here's Cliff

770
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: Kingsbury today just talked about talking about his mentality as

771
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: a player and a leader. He's been great. Everything that

772
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: you've seen and I've seen probably through the media in

773
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: different outlets throughout his career. What you see is what

774
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 1: you get. I mean, he's locked in all the time.

775
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: He's a team guy, incredible work ethic, incredible leadership, and

776
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: it's it's been a real joy to see him around

777
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: the building. And he's been proactive in the community obviously

778
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: it's Suns games and you know, and repping the Mercury

779
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: and everything else in the Pat Tillman shoe. So yeah,

780
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: that's been a double thumbs up. What was interesting this

781
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: week on the Red Sea Report is bertrand Berry was

782
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: saying he fully expects Vans, Joseph too for the most part,

783
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: separate Chandler Jones and and JJ Watt to try and

784
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: keep those offensive lines honest, so they can't slide protection

785
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: to one side or the other. What's your expectation, Yeah, Paully, No,

786
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: that is a that is a huge statement right there

787
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: from a guy that knows pass rushing in bertrand Berry. Right,

788
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. I could see it, though. I think

789
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna work together as well from time to time.

790
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: It's not always going to be a situation I think

791
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: where you're going to have him on opposite sides of

792
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: the ball. I think from time to time you'll move

793
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: them and let them work some games, especially if you're

794
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to pen up some blitzes Polly, where you

795
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: want to know this is where they're going to slide

796
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: their line now, will blitz from the weak side. I

797
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: think there are times when you definitely will do that

798
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: trying to set something else up for somebody else. But

799
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: to me, I want to go back to jj Watt

800
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: and what jj Watt was saying Paul on leadership, because

801
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 1: the lead got buried for the most part. Notice he

802
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: was he was talking about how he needs to approach

803
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: his teammates and how you have to know your teammates

804
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: and know how this guy responds and that guy responds.

805
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: But notice he was saying all that within the context

806
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: of talking to your teammates. I mean that is to

807
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: be That is what a true leader, a guy that

808
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: understands his impact in his role. And you gotta ball

809
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: out first, Paul, you gotta play. You already said that.

810
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: You nailed it. Paul. You've got to go out and

811
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: ball out yourself before you can walk up on somebody else.

812
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: But make no mistake about it. What JJ Watt was

813
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: saying is you need to walk up on your teammates.

814
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: Has got to know how to do it. And look,

815
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones wasn't there today. But I tell you what

816
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: did get my attention was JJ Watt first team defense

817
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: next to Jordan Phillips. And if Jordan Phillips is healthy

818
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: and his measurables can match his production because he is

819
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: such a large dude, and it can be so problematic.

820
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: I mean, Wolf, if you have those guys on either

821
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: end of your defensive front, there's gonna be a lot

822
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: of single blocking for a guy like Jordan Phillips. Right,

823
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yeah, there's no doubt about it, Paul.

824
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: This is right now. The Arizona Cardinals last year number

825
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: five in sacks per attempt, number five in sacks per

826
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: attempt last minus Chandler minus Chandler Jones for the vast

827
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: majority of the season. So when you think of getting

828
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: Chan back and JJ Watt and the impact that JJ

829
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Watt is going to have on not only the defensive

830
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: line room in Jordan Phillips, but the entire defense, and

831
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: dare I say the entire team? Man, I'm just really

832
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: jagged up fault. I think it might have a Chris

833
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Paul effect on this team. We'll see. Hey, speaking of

834
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: the Sun's how about minority owner Larry Fitzgerald. You got

835
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: any news on Fits? What's the latest wolf anything on Fits? No?

836
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I got nothing, Bollie. How about how about some news

837
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: on zach Ertz. I can't tell you sources telling yours truly,

838
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: he's been in the valley. Oh so what Doesn'tny work

839
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: out here? Paul? Well, you could say, yeah, his wife's

840
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: a Mason native and so forth. But wait a minute,

841
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: typically this time of year, he's not here, is my understanding.

842
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: So oh, we'll see exactly Because June June first is

843
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: coming gone, and now the Eagles can save eight point

844
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: five million under the cap if they either cut or

845
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Trade zach Ertz TikTok Stay tuned on that one. Special

846
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: Thanks Bill Davis. Special thanks Jim Almahundro and Cody Fincher

847
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: for Ron Wolfe on Paul KELBC. This has been the

848
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Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. Number one.

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