1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Who's that knocking at the door. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: and we've got books and a bottle of wine to kill. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs and martinis. 5 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: Clebri book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Book Club, Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. 7 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: No boys are alloud. Celebrity book say it Loud and 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: cloud Celebrity Book Club buzz mean I brought the queer voe. Hi. 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Phillips Horst. I'm Lily Marata And this is 10 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club, the podcast where we read celebrity memoirs 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: and then talk about them. We dish, we gossip. We 12 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: relate it back to our lives because we're obsessed with 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: each other. We're two best run Suns Medal School, but 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: we're also comedians, writers, cultural analysts, and we've been upsets 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: with pop culture for decades. We grew up in the scene, 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: and by the scene, I mean we would go to 17 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: Barnes and Nobles and Borders bookstores in the Greater Boston 18 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: area and get autographs. One time, we were at a 19 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret at ten am, and Heidi Klum yelled at 20 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Lily for skipping school, and I said, fuck you, betch 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: go back to Hamburg. And now look at us. We're 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: sitting at two small tables. I think our you know, 23 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: our our love for celebrity was not was not a 24 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: blind worship. No, you know, yeah, I'm not praising at 25 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: the altar. But nor are we evil, you know, making 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: fun of celebrities for being superficial. We're not snark for 27 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: snark's sake, you know. We we we want to peel 28 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: back the layers of the onion and see if these 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: people what they have to say about life, what they 30 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: have to say about culture. We'd love to see their faults. Yeah, 31 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: but all so, what brings some joy? Tennis? Anyone thirty love, 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: forty love fifty of sixty love match point. We read 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: the book this Pandemic of none other than the one 34 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: of the greatest tennis players who have ever lived, truly, yeah, Um, 35 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: one of the only people to actually complete the career 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Grand Slam, one of Um. I would say, the only 37 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: tennis players I really like know much about. Yeah, that's true. Well, also, 38 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, one of the only tennis players I think 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: overlap with the world of celebrity and fashion so intensely. Um, 40 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: some may even call him a queer icon. We're of 41 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: course talking about none other than fit. God try I 42 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: guess who I was gonna do a tennis sound, but 43 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: which is what? I don't know. That's the kind of 44 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: funny thing. Yeah, Um, I think as when you say fit, 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: obviously you mean outfits. Yeah, I mean he is a 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: fashion icon. He was actually one of like I think 47 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: he is in some ways he kind of invented like 48 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: fits in the sense of like straight guys being into 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: clothes in this way, and also like in terms of collabs, 50 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: because his collabs with a Nike in the nineties when 51 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: he was sponsored by them, like they released all of 52 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: these limited edition T shirts and shorts and all these 53 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: like polos that like today are grails. But I think 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: obviously Andrea also was a subculture icon because, as we 55 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: find out in this book, he was always pushing the 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: boundaries of what tennis could look like. And I think 57 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: he was constantly derided for being a punk. Being a punk, 58 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: I like at first it was like, oh, you don't 59 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: respect the sport because you have a mullet. So he 60 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: famously had this mullet in the eighties that was like spiky, 61 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: skunky sea and then he was like wearing super short shorts, 62 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: short acid wash shorts with tight pink like bicycle shorts 63 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: underneath on top. We're talking like, I mean, just take 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: yourself to Google for a second rope. But YouTube maybe 65 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: of some of his old matches. I mean, these insanely 66 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: sick polos that were like splattered pink and blue, which 67 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: you know, granted was like some of the design at 68 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the time, like like florescent abound um. But there's a 69 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: seam where he describes like I think it's him and 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: Pete Sampras, who's this like his rival that he talks about. 71 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Was it pe at my wrong? But they're at the 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: Nike headquarters importantly, and they're like pick the shit you on, 73 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: and he's like, well, I went for the pink spandex 74 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: like short shorts because like I'm random and like I'm alt, 75 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and like I feel like he was choosing this stuff 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: in this way that was so alternating because he was 77 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: rebelling against his father. Yes, that may I've actually happened also, 78 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: but I think it was John McEnroe. Yeah, and it 79 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: was they the stuff was actually from Macroe. Macenroe goes, 80 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: what the literally goes, what the fuck is this stuff? 81 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Because he's so straight. Well, and I think it's like, yes, 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: it was the eighties, but it's like right, the men 83 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: were still just being like white stuff but like short shorts. Yeah. Well, 84 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: of course tennis is a very of conservative sport, which 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: is why you know, I've kind of you know, stayed 86 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: away from it even though you literally like golf. Well yeah, 87 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: I golf. And also actually confession my parents, I'm kind 88 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: of agasy in this way where my parents put me 89 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: into Harvard tennis camp as a child. Oh my god, 90 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: my privilege here. Yeah, badass punk from the Wrong Side 91 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: of the Tracks went to Harvard tennis camp as a 92 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: child because my parents were like, you want a sport 93 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: that you can like still play when you're old. Oh, 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: because they looked at you when we're like cash cow. 95 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: This just support us on our deathbens because we know 96 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna like all our doctor money on just like 97 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: sort of like takeout and like divorces and stuff like that. 98 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: I think more they meant just like, yeah, like when 99 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: you get old, you can like still grab a racket 100 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: and with your fifth year old friends and go to 101 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: the courts and exercise. You can't be playing football at fifty, 102 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: so true, which is what the sport I wanted to play. Oh, 103 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: you wanted to be like wait, what was like that 104 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: first female football player who who just was Sarah something? Yeah, 105 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to be her. I wanted to be play football. 106 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I played football every day at recess. But were you 107 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: so bashing into stuff? Well, they wouldn't let me play tackle, right, 108 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: girls weren't allowed, right, and you had to be like touch. 109 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: So I was on like little league. And you know 110 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I mean, I will say you can be 111 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: very fearless in physical stuff. Yeah, I'm actually totally fine 112 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: bashing and stuff. You're off Like I've literally seen you 113 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: like jump out of a moving car. When I back 114 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: to Andre for a second, I think I'm fearless, and 115 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: so is he. But I mean we're gonna get into 116 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: this a lot later in the pod, but a lot 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: later in a couple hours. You really are Andre, and 118 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: I know that. I yeah, I like, well, we'll talk 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: about who you are in the book, but I felt 120 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: I identify with him so deeply, just like on every 121 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: page of this book, because he's just like a is 122 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: like weirdly spoiled, but just like also an asshole. But 123 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: then also everyone's just like underestimating him. Well, also I 124 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: feel like he has kind of love me or hate 125 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: me vibe, which you kind of do. Yeah, he can 126 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: be a little bit um. He can be kind of 127 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: like holarized, really randomly assertive and like immature. And then 128 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: of course he has this whole saga about his hair 129 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and his baldness, which is h me, and he's like 130 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: so insanely self conscious about it. Like I feel like 131 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: his hair evolution went from iconic mullet yeah to hairpiece, 132 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: which at the time no one knew he was doing 133 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: a hairpiece. Hello trump. Um, So I guess you know, 134 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I want to just sort of yeah, let's kind of 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: dive into this book, which I will say right off 136 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the bat. Let me just say this is a good book. 137 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Good ass book, y'all. This is a good ass book. 138 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: It is worth a read. Like I didn't know anything 139 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: my tennis going and there is I will say, there's 140 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot of tennis in it, and it's very just 141 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: like and then he beat me, and then I like 142 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: slammed him back, and then I was up in the 143 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: second set and you're kind of like okay, and you 144 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: get through it, but like it's not it's not like boring, 145 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: but no, it moves quickly, but kind of like in 146 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: that way where if you don't like sports, but you 147 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: watch Friday night Lights and then you're like, oh, well, 148 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: there's a story behind this so I can watch this 149 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: football and sure, yeah, there's like sometimes by page three 150 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: hundred you're like, we're he's describing like the nine hundred 151 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Australian Us and and you're like, okay, yeah, I mean 152 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: you broke him. But then your legs cramped. It's like 153 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: there's so many cramps in this. I'm like, yeah, my god, 154 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: I made it really is insane, like what athletes go through. 155 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: They're just like it's phenomenal. It's you know, what they 156 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: can do. And he's getting shot up with so much 157 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: court of zone and he's like, my doctor told me, 158 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: if I even tried to sight see in Rome, my 159 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: choruson shot would be done done. No one had ever 160 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: gotten seven quarter shows like over the course of one year, 161 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: and I was on my nine. I wish we had 162 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: some cortisone to do right now. I'm always just like, well, 163 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that's what they gave Trump. I'm sure. Yeah, 164 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: And I just pushed him right there. I mean I 165 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: would love a little bit of cordy. Yeah. Once my 166 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: mom accused me Stephen gave me bedbugs once. Um, I 167 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: don't see how this is relevant to the discussion. I 168 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: was taking a lot of cortisone and my mom told 169 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: me I was o dan on cortisone. Well, you were 170 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: just rubbing on a topical cream. Yeah, that's not the 171 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: same thing as a shot like fluid. Okay, Meredith Gray, 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: all right, so Andre, let's go back. Let's go back. So, 173 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: Andrea Agasi, let's start off with the fact that he 174 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: is Armenian and that he is literally Kardashian vibes. He's 175 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: so Kardashian, and like I think it like really sort 176 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: of um foretells I want to say, prestageous longers even 177 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: sort of like the Armenian four stages, the sort of 178 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: favorite word, but the like the sort of that new 179 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: money esthetic of the Kardashians, because like he's from Las Vegas, 180 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: which is an insane place. Like if you're from Las Vegas, 181 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: you're already a crazy person, yea, and nothing against people 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: from Vegas. Like I'm jealous, absolutely, I'm so jealous. My 183 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: grandmother once told me that an uncle of hers owned 184 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Las Vegas but sold it before who was anything. And 185 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I told my dad that and he was like, your 186 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: grandma's completely crazy. I don't know what lies she's talking 187 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: about uncle of yours, like a great great uncle. She 188 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: was like the whole damn stretch of two bit Charlie. 189 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: And yeah, no one in my family owns Vegas. I 190 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: don't know what on earth she was talking about. Well, 191 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: no onah now um. But so Agasy. So his dad 192 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: was a like like a pit boss, like at a 193 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: casino and insane job. It's like you're yelling at Pete, 194 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: but you're watching on the cameras. And then he comes 195 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: home and he's screaming at Agasy. Like at their like 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: house in the middle of nowhere in the desert. He 197 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: like has this tennis court in the backyard that he 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: built himself, built the tennis court. He built this crazy 199 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: machine called the Dragon, which just like shoots a million 200 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: tennis balls at Andrea. And that's why he's the best 201 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: returner in the game tennis. Term Hello, Hello, you know 202 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: about tennis? Him career in sports broadcasting anyone? Okay, because 203 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: he's so good at just like because like Slice was 204 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: always throwing balls at him. I mean. And it also 205 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: goes to show it's like, if you're going to become 206 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I think, a pro golfer, a pro tennis player, a 207 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: pro swimmer, you have to have an insane parent, parents 208 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: or a gymnastics yeah, any kind of like so obviously 209 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: there are like crazy like football and soccer parents, but 210 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: it's like, if you're pushing your child in a solo sport, 211 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: you need an especially crazy parent because it's only you 212 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: and them. It's so true. It's a solo thing. I mean. Um, 213 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: I when we first started reading this book, it was 214 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: kind of early pandem and I actually had to stop 215 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: for a few months because I was like I need 216 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: something to pick me up, and like reading about andre 217 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: Agassi's dad, like beating him on the wrist at ag eight, 218 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't Yeah, I couldn't do it, sorry, Trigger, because 219 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: you were going through stuff with your dad him dying, 220 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: yeah stuff. Um and so yeah, it's like kind of 221 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: hard to hear all that exactly. It was a lot 222 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: and it's kind of funny because sometimes you know, you 223 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: I still I took karate, but I stopped and no 224 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: one was there, you know, whipping my wristingly put back 225 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: on the belts. Get that yellows right, they said short 226 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: quit And it's like, you know, the grass is always 227 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: the clay is always dry. Rather do I wish I 228 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: was beat on the wrist so I could have a 229 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: black belt? Now? No, I mean lesbian if you were 230 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: like free time judo champion, No, how cool would that be? 231 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Did you ever put it on us? No? I feel 232 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: like it's one of those sports where it's like I 233 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: be good at it because I like, I just feel 234 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: like it's like a rich person sport. Yeah, and you 235 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: also get to like really traumatically be like, oh yeah, 236 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: the grunts, it's all ah, And I've like I would 237 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: love to do that, and I also love you know, 238 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: it's a very under I can say at one point, 239 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: and the book talks about how um, it's the only 240 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: spart where you talk to yourself all the time, which 241 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: is of course, which is so you ours? And do 242 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: you remember when Agassi got he got like fined or 243 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: kicked off or something like that because he called himself 244 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: like a fucking idiot. He was like, he was like, 245 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: you stupid idiot. Yeah, and they were like fine, and 246 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: he was like they're like what did you say? And 247 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: he's like, that's right, called myself a stupid fucking idiot. 248 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Hell yes, yes, to insult yourself as the ump or 249 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: not the ump or whatever. Sucker. Oh okay, And he 250 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he was a cocksucker, which is so 251 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: straight of him. It's also pretty crazy. I mean, who 252 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: would have guessed that the first memoir we would read 253 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: for our podcast would be a street guy. I know 254 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: it's wild, well, but I think that there's something about 255 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: him that that's not that's really not straight. No, So 256 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: like let's discuss how many things about him are queer. Hey, 257 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: he loves tequila. He loves tequila. But as it was 258 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: like George Clooney, like you can be pimp, but he's 259 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: always like craving a margharita. Craves margharitas. He loves pasta 260 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: every single meal in this book, as pasta will get 261 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: to the food in which is again also like nineties, 262 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: so like crave a Penney. Okay. Also, like he knows 263 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: so much about interior design. He's always like, oh, this 264 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: house is so fake country, like French country, right, how 265 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: Brookshields wants this like French country knockoff split level Malibu 266 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: house and he's just like I wanted a rambling farmhouse. Yeah, 267 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: just so house hunters. And it's just like the woman 268 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: wanting this like fae like French country island. And then 269 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: they do get that house and that's just another thing 270 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: on his list. Now ultra really gay. I mean obviously 271 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: his style, right, but also like that, I think the 272 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: rebelliousness of like is very gay. So it's like when 273 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: he's a teen and he's going to that psycho tennis 274 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: camp in Florida run by that just like voluntary academy 275 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: that's just like massive ball, like chomping at a cigar, 276 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: like right face Italian guy who's like sounding the most 277 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: magason in history. And it's just like they go to 278 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: this camp and he like completely rebels by getting a 279 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: mohawk at the Bradington Mall outside of Tampa, like playing 280 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a playing a match in jeans and winning, and like 281 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: everyone's like, you disrespected the sport. I mean, I guess 282 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: that's also very straight, like to be like why the 283 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: funk would I need shorts. I can like play in jeans, dude, 284 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't even feel them. Okay, I guess that's true 285 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: to like rebelling through fashion. But this is why, this 286 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: is why he's a kind of a straight queer icon 287 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, okay. But also a gay part about 288 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: him is the way he describes his trainer, Gill. Well, yeah, 289 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: he's he has this trainer, Gill, who was like the 290 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: universe of Las Vegas football coach, and he like steals 291 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: him from the University of Las Vegas to become his 292 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: like personal just like kind of like personal, like not 293 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: even he's not he has a regular tennis coach, but 294 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: this is like his dog trainer. Yeah. Gil has a 295 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: notebook that like he refers to as his Da Vinci notebook, 296 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: and it's like literally Andre's like wrist measurements like day 297 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: by day, like Gil, right, Gil being so gay, they're 298 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: being gay for each other. Andre's always just like Gil 299 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: had a fifty four inch chick. He was the widest 300 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: man I'd ever seen. And it's like okay, and then 301 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: He's always like well, because he had so many daddy issues, 302 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: will like go to Gil's house and like curl up 303 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: and sleep on Gil's floor and Gil will be like, 304 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: don't you want to go home to your girlfriend? He's like, no, 305 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: I want to curl to your floor, which again is 306 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: also like insane athlete, Like, um can I read a 307 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: passage to me that was like one of the most 308 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: sexual passages I read in the book. So it's where 309 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: he's describing. They go. They're at this diner in Scottsdale. 310 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: This is right after he gets arrested for speeding in 311 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: his corvette and then the cops let him off because 312 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: they're fans. Yeah, and then he goes to court and 313 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: they're just like, your sentenced to give him hell on 314 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: the part your sense to give us tons of autographs. 315 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: So they're at this diner and these like a group 316 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: of other diners like calls Andreae a faggot, and then 317 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Gil like defends him, and it literally like got me 318 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: rock hard when I went this because nothing was hotter 319 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: than like Gil's defense of him. But okay, let me 320 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: just describe quickly. We go to a dinner one night 321 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: at the village in it's late we're eating a combo 322 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: platter of dinner and breakfast. Four guys burst into the 323 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: restaurant and said what booth away? They talk and laugh 324 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: about my hair, my clothes. Probably gay, one says, definitely 325 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: homosis this buddy. Gil clears his throat, wipes his mouth 326 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: with a paper napkin, tells me to enjoy the rest 327 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: of my meal. He's done. Aren't you going to eat? Gilly? No, man, 328 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: last thing I want during a fight is a full stomach. 329 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: When I'm finished, Gil says he has some business to 330 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: take care of at the next table. If anything happens, 331 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: I shouldn't worry. He knows the way home. He stands 332 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: very slowly. He sidles over to the four guys. He 333 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: leans on their table. The table groans. He fans his 334 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: chest in their faces and says, you enjoy ruining people's meals. 335 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: That's how you like to spend your time. Huh gee, 336 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to try that myself. What are 337 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: you having there? Hamburger? He picks up the man's burger 338 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: and eats half of it in one bite. Needs ketchup, 339 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Gil says, his mouthful. You know what, now I'm thirsty. 340 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: I think I'll take a sip but your soda, yeah, 341 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: and then I think I'll spill it all over the 342 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: table As I set it down. I want I want 343 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: one of you to try to stop me. Gil takes 344 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: a long sip, then slowly, almost as slowly as he drives, 345 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: pours the rest of the soda over the table. Not 346 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: one of the four guys moves. Gil sets down the 347 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: empty glass and looks at me, Andre, you're ready to go? 348 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: Did you drink off that passage? I mean to me, 349 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: that's like still just like so straight and like two 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: guys like being like fuck, yeah, badass, let's get back 351 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: in our car. But yes, there is a charged energy 352 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: male or I mean also men in sports that is 353 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: just naturally gay I mean room. Yeah. I guess to 354 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: me it was like the idea of this like barrel 355 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: chested man defending me at a dinermophobes. Okay, I guess 356 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: to like pour diet coke on someone else's handbroker. A 357 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: moment that was gay for me is Gil and Andre's 358 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: like first kind of night together. He invites a Gil 359 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: into his corvette. So also Andres is always buying like 360 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: the most like nineties like fabulous like insane white corvettes, 361 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: and he invites him into his corvette and they just 362 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: talk all night long in his car. Yeah, do you 363 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: remember that. And then but then Gil gets really cold. 364 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: Oh no, Gil runs really hot, and so he'll like 365 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: turn on like he turns off the heat for him, 366 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: and then they just keep on trading off of like 367 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: when the heat is on and when the heat is 368 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: not on, and Andre would just be like I would 369 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: talk chill. I was blue in the face, and he 370 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: was just like freezing, and then Gil was like sweating 371 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: was barrel just in man is like sweating bullets. Yeah. 372 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: I so you're talking about like this sort of the 373 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: temperature regulation felt really gay to you. Yeah, just to 374 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: be like, well, also that just seems kind of romantic 375 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: to just be like I'll go blue for you. Oh 376 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: that is beautiful. Wait back took cars for a second. 377 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: There was something I wanted to discuss, which is the 378 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: time when he like wore a pair of Oakleys on 379 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the cover of Town was Insane Oakley. So this is 380 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: like a nineteen eighty two or whatever, like this is 381 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: a window into what celebrity used to be. Like, So 382 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: he wears a pair of Oakley steps from photoshoot like 383 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: not even like meaning to where the Oaks actually throws 384 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: on a hot pair of your classic class He ends 385 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: up on the cover of Tennis magazine. Because he's wearing 386 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: Oakles on the cover of Tennis magazine, Oakley sends him 387 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: a Dodge Viper to his house. So he's at his house, 388 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: this truck rolls up. He's like, huh, what's up? What's that? 389 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: Like the back of the truck opens up, a Dodge 390 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Viper rolls out like it's the fucking price is right, 391 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: And it was just like, this is a thank you 392 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: for wearing an Oakley's on like a magazine like that. 393 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: It was just like that is so insane. If you 394 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: if you were a cut to us wearing ray bands 395 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: and Dazed magazine magazine and drop off in nineteen fifty 396 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: six Corvette at my door. The reality is obviously today, 397 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: Like if you're like Busy Phillips, just like you have 398 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: to like do six Instagram story posts about Oakley just 399 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: to get a free pair of Oakleys, like that's your 400 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: only rock. It's like Mindy Kaling is out here like 401 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: shilling leg He's saying it's humillion, but I think sports 402 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: players it's actually still a whole different game of like sponsorship, 403 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: Well I guess that's I mean, sponsorship is one thing, 404 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: like okay, but you're right, the casual influencer. The casual 405 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: because that's like casual influencer, like just for wearing the 406 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: thing once. Like he wasn't like an official locally sponsor. 407 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: I like because he was official Nike. I mean what's 408 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: interesting when I learned in this book is that if 409 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: you're an official, if you're a sponsored, beneficial apparel comp 410 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 1: but you have to wear that apparel. 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Suddenly Susan 463 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: was a mussy TV and BC sitcom starring Brookshield, Kathy Griffin, 464 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Judd Nelson, Um, and so I was always like, oh, 465 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: Andre Agasis, Brookshield's husband. I remember Suddenly Susan always being 466 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: like three in the ratings because I would read entertainment 467 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: religiously and it was always like Seinfeld Friends, and then 468 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: suddenly sus Suddenly Susan felt very like it's on Tuesday. 469 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: Would just shoot me and friends and Seinfeld is on 470 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: Thursday or something like that, or maybe suddenly Susan's on Monday. 471 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: At one point they shoveled it to Thursday. Must se 472 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: TV lineup right, which okay. I also think that the 473 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: reason I'm such a Thursday girl is literally because of 474 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: NBC growing up. But I must see Thursday. I associate 475 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: Thursday has been like the fab like most fun party. 476 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: It's like television, which of course now is associated with 477 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: like being a total like VEG sitting at home, like 478 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: Netflix beinge anyone. Um. But yeah, Suddenly Susan. First of all, 479 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: it is like a bad show, like whoa, So this 480 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: SIUs is not a bad show. I feel like it 481 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: was okay, I feel like Kathy Griffin, like not to 482 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: be such like Griffin heads, but like she she was 483 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: always making fun of it. How just like by season two, 484 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: they were already running out of ideas and it was 485 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: just like the whole office goes camping. Like it was like, 486 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: I guess I have just like such fond memories of 487 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: those like NBC sitcoms. It was no willing grace. It 488 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: wasn't even just shooting. So yeah, okay, sure it was 489 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: maybe my fifth favorite, but I think it's also how 490 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: I got in. It was also about like a magazine 491 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: and there was like a photographer and they were always 492 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: like looking through like little samples and just shoot me 493 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: both about magazine. Yes, it's insane that there was, that's all. 494 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: It's just like work hand in magazine is the only 495 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: job slash most glamorous job you can have. And that's 496 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: also like every rhym comment. So what's completely insane is like, Okay, 497 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: so Andre is like with this chick who also who 498 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: sounds like very eighties and they're off and on engaged 499 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: and they break up. Yeah, boring. Next, she was like 500 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: a local girl. She was a Vegas girl. Yeah, except 501 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: for I want to talk about one completely insane scene 502 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: with his ex when Kevin Costner invites um Andrea and 503 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: Wendy over to watch The Bodyguard, and Andrea is just 504 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: like the movie sucked. But one thing that stood out 505 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: was the song I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston, 506 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: so it's insane. Also how Andrea Agaci. This is actually 507 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: what's so gay about him is his favorite type of 508 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: music is like soft rock, Like he's like Barbara streisand 509 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Whitney Houston, but again it's like that's just so eighty 510 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: Sash nineties sing Michael Bolton Selene d Like he turns 511 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: Barbara onto Selene Dion, Yeah, which is cuco. He's like, 512 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you need to hear that. Like I'm actually be like, 513 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: oh you need to hear this, chick. I'm gonna I'm 514 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: gonna buy it for you, Okay. Another like instance of 515 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: him being so man shit about movies was when he 516 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: sees The Joy Luck Club at Barbara Streisand's ranch and 517 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: he was like, the movie was so boring, helick, but 518 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: that and he's like afterwards, like Babs like song like 519 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: at this impromptu gathering around a piano, and he was like, 520 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe she had that trement I guess it's 521 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: really going back and forth. But now I'm thinking it 522 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: is actually so nineties straight guy to be like, I 523 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: love a woman with a really good voice, if you're 524 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: really good vocalists. Like if you asked my dad, he 525 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: would just be like, oh, like, oh yeah, like I 526 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: love a woman with powerful, powerful pipes, and so did 527 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: my dad. But that's a different story. Yeah. But anyway, 528 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: so him in Brooke started flirting via facts, which is 529 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: the most iconic way. Yeah, is there anything more nineties? 530 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: We've lost that, you know what I mean. We don't 531 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: facts anymore. No one facts is But you have to 532 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: you have to mean what you say on a facts. 533 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: You have to say like hey I'm into you. Hey, 534 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm interested in you. What are your favorite films? Oh right, 535 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: they would send back in fourth favorite movies and blah 536 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: blah blah. So he also talked about meeting Brooks, like 537 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: the first time you talked about brook He's like met 538 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: her mom. She was pretty weird and like, doesn't really 539 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: get into it. And again, Brooks mom is like famously 540 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: like a completely unsane alcoholic who like ruined her Yeah, 541 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: and she's like but so she doesn't really talk about 542 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Brook's mom much. Other No, he says one sense, and 543 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: I think he backs out of it. Right, He's like, 544 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: she's weird, that's all. I'll say, Oh, right, right, because 545 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: I think brooks Shields memoirs all about how her mom 546 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: was like a crazy stage mom, which kind of like 547 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: brings me to the topic of like stepping on others memoirs, 548 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: which she's kind of careful not to do. He doesn't 549 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: tell her story too much. She like tells this side 550 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: of it, but kind of is like, I'll let her 551 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: get into her So I was reading because basically they 552 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: as whatever, get divorced and have this he kind of 553 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: resents for this whole marriage. But I was reading what 554 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: brooks reaction was. And I guess recently she was on 555 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: What Happens Live Watch What Happens Live right, and someone 556 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: they asked her about the book and she was like, well, 557 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: Andre sent it to me to be like, is everything correct. 558 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: I have a bad man, I've a totally bad memory, 559 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: so I just want to make sure and I'm working 560 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: with a ghostwriter. And then she goes, by the way, 561 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: I wrote my book myself. I didn't use a ghostwriter. 562 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, I mean I kind of like, don't 563 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: believe that, but it's hard to believe. I know that brooked. 564 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, you didn't you had an editor, for sure, 565 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: you didn't have a maybe. I mean Andre use this 566 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: like Pulitzer Prize winning Jr. Moringer or whatever who ghost 567 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: wrote this book. But he's very like so Andre about it. 568 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: And he's always like honoring all of the men in 569 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: his life. And he was like, I met him and 570 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: we talked for two straight years. It's so insane. Every 571 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: man that he meets that he like falls in love 572 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: that has the most insane relationship with. It's just like 573 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: it's such a momentous religious experience for him. When wait, 574 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: can we talk about when well, the pastor is another 575 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: thing that makes him so Kardashian. Yeah, and just like 576 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: they're so all about their pastor and the pastor is 577 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: like a member of their entourage, and it's just this 578 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: fake celebrity god that's that says the most, just like 579 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: absolutely innocuous, just like life goals, life coach kind of shop. 580 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: But they're just like believe in the path and the 581 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: road that will lead you to the strengths. And then 582 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: he's like when he said that, my jaw dropped. I 583 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: asked him to say it again as we were speeding 584 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: down the one on one. It's also so celebrity. He 585 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: like goes to this pastor's house and he's like and 586 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm lost, man, I need you, and he's like, look, 587 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: i'm not I'm not your regular pastor. Just also celebrity, 588 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: just like, oh so he probably has frosted tips and 589 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: he's like, dude, I'm not going to give you some 590 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: fucking sermon and tell you what to do. Okay, I'm 591 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: kind of a different type of I'm a cool pastor. 592 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm a cool mom um. It's very Hillsong to just 593 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: be like, I'm a cool mom um. Oh okay. Brad 594 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: when he meets his coach, Brad for the first time, 595 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: it keep his game now, if you know, keep his scain. 596 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: It's very Everything is just like a huge like hotel, 597 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: and like all the food in this book is so 598 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: nineties and everyone's constantly just been like I had six 599 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: plates of fetichini al freda when a bud light. But 600 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: this guy Brad, who he's like needs to get to 601 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: be his new coach, like agrees to meet them for 602 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,479 Speaker 1: dinner whatever and brings a six pack of bud light. No, 603 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, actually ten times where crazy. He only 604 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: drinks bud ice, right, which is like, I don't know 605 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: the definition of bud ice is. I think it's bud 606 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: light with a higher alcohol volume, but it's also a 607 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: very nineties beverage. I mean, I think it's definitely for sale. 608 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: And it's like they go to this like very like seaside, 609 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: you know whatever, like Trocharia that's so steak, and he's like, 610 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: do you have bud ice and they're like no, and 611 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: then he just leaves and comes back with a six 612 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: pack of bud ice. So it's like the most random 613 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: beer ever. And he goes He asks the waiter to 614 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: put it on ice, not the refrigerator. Brad says, because 615 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: that's not cold enough on ice or else in the freezer. 616 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: He needs free okay. And then this guy also he 617 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: orders the chicken like parmesan in all separate parts. He's like, okay. 618 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: When Brad returns, the waiter guns order. Brad asks for 619 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: Penny a ribiata with grilled chicken and mozzarella. Parry orders 620 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: chicken parmesan. Brad looks at Perry, so Perry is like 621 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: Andrea's best friend, Brad looks at Perry with disgust. Bad call, 622 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: he says. The waiter stops running. Well you want to do, 623 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,919 Speaker 1: Brad says, is order a chicken breast separate, then order 624 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: all your mozzarella and sauce on the side. See that way, 625 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: the chicken breast is fresh, not saggy. Plus you can 626 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: control your chicken to cheese and sauce ratio. I mean 627 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: that's very athlete. I think that's a disgusting way to eat. Yeah, 628 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 1: to just get so you're getting a salab of mozzarella 629 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: in the middle. I mean that's just not how that 630 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: dish is supposed to be. Like you want the cheese 631 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: melt melted onto the chicken. But I guess that's also 632 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: a very athlete to be. Like. And I'm I'm getting 633 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: a massive meal of my allocated like twenty two hundred 634 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: calories that I need to burn, but i want like 635 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: six ounces of mazzarella in the side, just like seven 636 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: ounces of bread and cutlet. I'm gonna have three and 637 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: a half bud ices on ice. He's constantly having like 638 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: the most absolute overloaded meals. He's like right before our 639 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: like big tennis tournament in Scottsdale. I ordered six cheeseburgers, 640 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: and it's just like, well, that's so insane on a court, 641 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: Olympian is like they look, well, so Andre, what's so 642 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: cool about him? What I love is that, like one, 643 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: he is so like massive steakhouse, but he's also so 644 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: fast food, and he's always like there's this bar where 645 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: he's at this insane Italian restaurant that him and Brookshields 646 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: and he goes. So he's so tired of Brookshields and 647 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: all of her actor friends. Brook and the actors talk 648 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: over each other, but I silently hunkered down at one 649 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 1: end of the table, eating grazing. Actually I ordered five 650 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,240 Speaker 1: courses and for just sort I shovel three stinky toffee 651 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: puddings into my mouth slowly. An actress notices how much 652 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: the food is disappearing at the end of my table. 653 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: She looks at me, alarmed. Do you always yes, eat 654 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: like this? But then I feel like he's so It's like, yes, 655 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was getting like a veal scalapini and 656 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: like a balsamic glaze mozzarella tomato clam. I mean the 657 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: drizzle during that time, everything such a z everywhere and 658 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: it's like Gill will allow him. I feel like if 659 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: Andrew's a cranky, like he'll allow him to get like 660 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: eight Wendy's Spicy chickens. And then he's also just like 661 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: I had nerves, so I just like downed like a 662 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 1: glass of vodka straight. Well, but when that happens, Brad 663 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: is like, I'm a little confused what the regiment is 664 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: before the game, because like he is always having marks 665 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: and having so many steaks and Pennai's. But then when 666 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: he drinks of vodka, Brad like is shocked and his 667 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: jaws dropped, and I'm like, Brad, what you're drinking five? 668 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: But I says, well, Brad's not compaigning it in the tern. 669 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: Well I know, but I I just think like maybe 670 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: it's you're allowed like marks and Pennay and then like 671 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: but the night before tournament, you're like not supposed to 672 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 1: drink I mean calories in calories out right. You're burning 673 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: so much in that pool and then you need to 674 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: pack it back in. And I guess that goes to 675 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: show there's this I mean calories and calories out is 676 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: this sort of famous thing that people talk about it 677 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: in like diet world, where it's like it doesn't actually 678 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 1: matter what you eat. It's just calorie. It's just Calorkande's 679 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: all that matter. So if it's fifteen hundred calories of 680 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: big Max, that's the same as fifteen hundred calories with 681 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: the kale. It's just like it's as long as it's 682 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 1: as long as you're burning it off, then you're burning 683 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: it off. It's like, yeah, you make it heart disease 684 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: later on. But wait, wise, I mean, I remember in 685 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: my college, in my years when I was interning for 686 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 1: the Jerry Springer show, I only subsisted on McDonald's because 687 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 1: that's what we gave of guess, but I was running 688 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: around constantly, and you've never been in better. Literally I 689 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: lost him. Pounced. Jerry Springer was kind of your Gill, 690 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: you know. Dresher was Michael. I was smoking Marlboroughs. That 691 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: was your Donalds. Okay, So we didn't talk about gilwater. 692 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 1: So gilwater is a special concoction that his trainer makes him. 693 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, but it just sounds like gatorade because 694 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: it's like he describes it as like light salt, like 695 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: vitamins and like water, which is like that's what's in Gatorade. 696 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: So I scoured the internet trying to find the recipe 697 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: for gillwater. Okay, couldn't find it. Well, I mean, it's 698 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: a yet's rest. I was, I was going to make 699 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: us a batch, and so I bought us. We're right 700 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: now sipping on vitamin water and Gatorades to you know, 701 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: try to make up for the fact that we're not 702 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: drinking gillwater. I mean, I feel like I'm ready to 703 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: compete at like Indian wells, but like, I don't know 704 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: if I'd go to the Australian Open do you know 705 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: what I mean? Thirty six grams of cobs in here, 706 00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: thirty four grams of sugar and uh some sody. So 707 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: now that we're sort of on the subject of drugs, 708 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: I want to talk about what I think is maybe 709 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: the gayest thing in the entire book that math Binge. 710 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: Say it with me, Ben when he actually just fully 711 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: goes in a meth Binge at his Las Vegas home, 712 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: which is full of just like pool tables and sounds 713 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: like the most like eighties tocre literally like my dream apartment. 714 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: It's just like pinball tables, pool tables, big screen TVs, 715 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: and he's like having this bad summer in this like 716 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: slump in his career in like the mid nineties, and 717 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: he has this houseboy who also he just like starts 718 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: mentioning that he has a houseboy named Slim, who's like 719 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,919 Speaker 1: this local Latin guy, and you're just like gay gay 720 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: gay gay gay. Like he ends up saving Slim's child 721 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: later on, but before that, he's like, man, like, I'm depressed, 722 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: and Slim is like, want to get high, and he's like, oh, 723 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: on one, He's like, it's called crystal meth, and he's like, sure, 724 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: that sounds fun. He's like, yeah, I feel like I'm 725 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: on top of the world when I do it. So 726 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: he does crystal math and then he's just like, it 727 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: was awesome. I cleaned my entire house. I was obsessed 728 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: with it. I felt like I wanted to organize a 729 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: roll of pennies. And he's just like being so math 730 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: and being so gay, which I get because it's like 731 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: when I do Sudafed, I want to clean my house 732 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: and suda fe it's obviously like a minor amount of math. 733 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 1: So it's like that tracks from everything that I've heard. 734 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: But it's just like this is so gay, and you're 735 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: just doing it recreationally time, and then he's kind of 736 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: shady about how often he does it ever, that's yeah, 737 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: he only mentions it really twice in the book. He's like, 738 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: and then I did it again and then like I 739 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: had a match, and like I was so fucked up, 740 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: and they were like, what's wrong with you? And he doesn't. 741 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 1: I feel like he kind of yeah, definitely, And you're like, 742 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: imagine doing meth. And it's like he's polishing probably like 743 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: a black lacquered table. Yeah, do you think he's polishing slim? 744 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: It's the question. I feel like they were maybe like 745 00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: jerking off together and they were both watching porn on VHS, 746 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: VHS nor pay per view, Oh that was that era. Yeah, 747 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:10,799 Speaker 1: and they're sitting in like huge black Italian leather lazy boys. Yeah, 748 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: big big, big lazy boys, like eighteen cup holders, yeah, 749 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: eighteen cup holders, and so between the cons and like 750 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: a sunken carpeted living room and so between probably the 751 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: pay per view and there's probably space between the big chairs. Oh, 752 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm sure some dicks came out. The dicks came out, 753 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: and it's like you can't totally see, you know, you 754 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: gotta kind of peer over because of the arm rest 755 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: is not necessarily seeing your friend's tool unless it's quite 756 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: quite the quiet large and I mean I feel like 757 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Andre again, I've like only ever seen your dick in 758 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: my life. Um Um, I'm a gold staff what you 759 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: call it? Um? I feel like it's like medium bit thick. 760 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: That's very accurate though, that's the vibe I get from 761 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: him as well as medium but thick. Um. I do 762 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: have to say I think Pete Sampras is probably huge. Yeah, 763 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: like hu gacious, you know it's so funny because it's 764 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: like I you know those names also growing up, like 765 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: sam first Agacy, they were all around. But it's like right, 766 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: Andre is just like so much cooler and like Sampras, 767 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: and like Andre talks about it so much, and it's like, 768 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: could we talk about when Pete Sampras tips the valet, 769 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, a dollar and dollars and does it 770 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: make sure that gets to like the guy who actually 771 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: brings my car around like the stingiest fucking asshole. No, 772 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: Samper seems like a huge as such. And it's like 773 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: Andre like lives his life with passion and it's like 774 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 1: fine love and has all of his friends as his friends, 775 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 1: and like Pete sapperss is just like cold and like 776 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: an asshole. They have this rivalry throughout the nineties, so 777 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 1: like we're not friends, but you know, it's always comes 778 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: down to the match. It's always him and Pete. Remember 779 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,720 Speaker 1: when Andre takes him to it to see, um Greece. 780 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it's Greece. Yeah, and he gets so mad because 781 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: Pete gets very bored joy Luck Club vibes. Yeah, it's 782 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: so straight and just like like and Andre like is like, oh, 783 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: so you don't respect musical theater. And Andrea's just be 784 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: like just kind of tickle by the fact that Pete 785 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: hates art. Yeah, and he's like, yeah, I'm actually kind 786 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: of like a Renaissance man. I enjoy art and Barbara 787 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: streisam Greece. So this is the thing. Like Andre's like 788 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: tastes are so Vegas and like rand show, like he 789 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,880 Speaker 1: likes like when he goes to like Italy whatever, and 790 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 1: he's just like and we saw the Sistine Chapel and 791 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: I thought, Wow, this da Vinci guy was really interesting, 792 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: like he really had something to do. O wait, Michelangelo 793 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, he know da Vinci because he's always 794 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: comparing Gill to da Vinci, Right, I mean I think 795 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: that's very also athlete to be like love the greats, 796 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: the bigs. Yeah, so he's like I love Renaissance painting, 797 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: I love Celine dion Um. Okay, wait, so briefly A 798 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: thing that's also very straight about him not so gay 799 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: is um when he psychically freaks out at Brookshield's Friends taping. 800 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: She has to kiss Joey in a scene and he 801 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: drives back to Vegas and I smash Tennis trophy. Can 802 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: I read the passage? Yeah, it's so cuckoo. That was 803 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: the part where I was like, Okay, he's such a dick, 804 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: Like this is so weird. She's literally because also I 805 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 1: feel like Brookshield's like is just so obviously like classic 806 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: insecure actress, and it's just like nervous all the time 807 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: and just like well, because this was pre Suddenly Susan, 808 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like Friends was huge. So she gets this gig 809 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: and it's like, meanwhile, she's Okay. This is what made 810 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: me actually like really furious that Andre for a bit 811 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: of the book is like she goes to all of 812 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: his matches and he'll be like, oh like brook didn't 813 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 1: even like ask me about the Australian Open and it's 814 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: like boring, sis okay, like how many times can she 815 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: ask and like watch you sulk around that like Connor's 816 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: beat you. And then like he'll be like, well, I 817 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: guess I didn't ask her, and then like about the 818 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: taping and it's like, no, you didn't ask her about 819 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 1: like any for audition. Yeah, And I think at least 820 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: they're like for different roles and it's like you're playing tennis, 821 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: it's always literally just like oh what did you do? 822 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: Like hit? And so she finally gets this friend's gig 823 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: and already like grumpy he's there and it's like she's 824 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: been there for him so many times, and so the 825 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: scene is like actually, like Matt LeBlanc, I think, like lick. 826 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: She has to lick his hand. He's even like goofier. 827 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: It's so clearly comedic, right, and it's just like and 828 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: he's probably been like, oh, yeah, how you do it? 829 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: And just like she's licking the hand and he like 830 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 1: gets up in the middle of the taping. I'm sorry 831 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: if you've ever been to a TV taping. They didn't 832 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: call cut now, did they? He storms out again, gets 833 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 1: in his like cor fead Or whatever. He's like, and 834 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,959 Speaker 1: I'm driving. I'm driving and driving, gets to Vegas and 835 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,359 Speaker 1: starts here we go, so he's smashing and smashing. He 836 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: gives I take my tennis bag and try to smash 837 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: the glass coffee table, but only the rackets shatter. I 838 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: pick up the broken trophies and smash them against the 839 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480 Speaker 1: walls and then against other things in the house. When 840 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: the trophies can't be smashed anymore, I fling myself on 841 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: the couch, which is covered with plaster from the gouged walls. 842 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: Hours later, I opened my eyes. I surveyed the damage 843 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,919 Speaker 1: as if someone else is responsible, and it's true, it 844 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 1: was someone else, the someone who does half the shit 845 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: I do. And then like Brook calls and I was like, hey, hey, 846 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,760 Speaker 1: so that was kind of weird when you left. That's 847 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: what I don't think you're that part of Andre. No, 848 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: It's like I'm not. It's like just that the sort 849 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: of the physical abuse, and it raises a red flag 850 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: and you have to wonder. But it's like, obviously his 851 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: dad raised him to be like so angry and like 852 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: have all this bottled up rage, but it's really bizarre. 853 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: I also like wonder if it's like because he's not 854 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: even like I mean, I also think the underlying storyline 855 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: is there is that him and Brooklyn weren't happy in 856 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: their relationship. Yeah, it's like he never they have the 857 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: first year where they're like really they bond over having 858 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: like crazy parents, Yeah, and then it just kind of 859 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: gets distant and they just It's also that thing where 860 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: like I mean, I said, like when you're a tennis 861 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: is like random and boring, So it's just like you 862 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,879 Speaker 1: kind of do need to date another tennis star. No, 863 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: it's so perfect and this leads us to my biggest takeaway. 864 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the book, he ends up marrying 865 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: for the love of his life, stephie Graff. Stephie Graff 866 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,720 Speaker 1: sounds like the most boring person to ever live, No, truly, 867 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: and like he's all whenever he describes her, it's like, okay, 868 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: so she is zero personality. Well, she's like just like 869 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: German people are famously have like no sense of whom 870 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: you are. Like also just like she just she looks 871 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: so fucking Germanic, Like she's the she's the most like 872 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: stern wide jaw, Like yeah, not to Tredre, but I'm 873 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 1: just like she looks like the hugest lesbian on earth, 874 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: for like a massive nose and like big jaw and 875 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: like the whole book. It's like there's all these like 876 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 1: sort of like hints that Stephie he likes to forceave 877 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: and like there's a scene where Brookshields, like has she 878 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: comes over to her house, her like rented apartment whatever. 879 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: While she's like shooting something in La she has a 880 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: cutout from a magazine of Steffi Graf on her fridge 881 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: and shell box her goal weight. She's like, this is 882 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: what I want to be, just like she's so nineties 883 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: to also be like Steffi graph goal Weight. It's like Brookshields, 884 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: who is like six feet tall, gorgeous, one of the 885 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 1: most beautiful people ever. I mean, I do that. Brookshields 886 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,879 Speaker 1: is very beautiful, like a Boston way. I will say, 887 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: she likes beautiful. She's she's back Bay Boston beautiful, back babe, 888 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: beautiful baby beautiful, like her leaving the coffee and a 889 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: police like heaving to coach Sie like waspy pinched nose, 890 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, you know she does have like the 891 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 1: dark brows, which is like shoulders. I mean, now I'm 892 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: also thinking about it. I'm like, Brookshields kind of has 893 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: this like lesbian swimmer's body as well, um, just in 894 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: the fact that she's like tall as all hell. So 895 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: my mom is always saying that, like I labeled people 896 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: too much, that they're like gay by their looks, and 897 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, you're just like yeah, And I was like 898 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 1: in these photos, I was like, I was like, wait, 899 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:34,240 Speaker 1: so sorry, that's stiffy grab again, Team brook segment vibes. 900 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: What does she wear? What does she eat? How does 901 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 1: she lave? So we've probably like talked a lot about 902 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: this already in this pod, but what does Agassie wear? 903 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,320 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he wears tennis clothes, he wears Tannis clothes, 904 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: and right now his style is very just like super 905 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 1: plain white Nike polo. But what's so insane is I 906 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: was like, ats he wears like a tight pooka shell choker? 907 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: What is current? I'll pull it up Google along with me, Um, audience, 908 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: maybe you just yeah, he's just like in such a 909 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 1: like you know, classic salb like blazer, open white shirt 910 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 1: and just like a kind of a tight here you go. Tight. Yeah, 911 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,240 Speaker 1: that photo is completely insane. So he's like, I'm actually 912 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 1: still punk because I still wear tight looks like such 913 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: a Disney villain, like with with the shaved head, and 914 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: he's just like, so like I know that face now 915 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: with the puka shell he's just like in the Evil 916 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: Vegas Restaurant Manager and he notes it and he's which 917 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: is cool. He's like, oh, people think I know who 918 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: I am now because I dress plainly, but that's not true. Well, 919 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 1: this goes back to I think him being like not 920 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 1: gay but straight, which is like puka shell is I 921 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: think the ultimate like like weird accessory that you get 922 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: called a fagot four, but you don't actually wear unless 923 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: you are straight, right, And I think his style back 924 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: then of like the acid wash and the crazy polos, 925 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: that's still just being like eighties and like a funky guy. Yeah, 926 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: and that was span Con like at the end of 927 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: the day. Um so how does he eat? I mean, 928 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,640 Speaker 1: I think, as we said, he loves like a veal scalopini. 929 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: He loves like Steffi Graf to have a bubbling lasagna 930 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: on the table. Yeah, he's rolling up on a bad 931 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,840 Speaker 1: day at the Agacy Academy to Taco Bell. He's getting 932 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 1: like six chuloopas then going to Wendy's and getting like 933 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 1: seven spicy chickens, like washing it down with a diet doctor. 934 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: Let's just say he's the opposite of that fag at 935 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,279 Speaker 1: Tom Brady who owns he's what he wants, but he 936 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: burns it off. Yeah, and I'm sure he's also very 937 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: like dab. He like has just like a balsamic salad 938 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: for lunch. And maybe he is a little your diet 939 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: kind of like nothing big dinner. Well, or maybe he's 940 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: like so celebrating. He's just like in like a whatever, 941 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: like a Dasani meeting and like some some Laura and 942 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: it's like salads for everyone, and then I can't taker 943 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: orders and he's just like I'll have the girl check out, right, 944 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: and then it's like and then there's a business dinner 945 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: or he's like like luck Companella del Troteria asteria, and 946 00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,640 Speaker 1: like obviously he has a sweet tooth because he's like 947 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: downing so much dessert, but it's so much like sticky tuffee. 948 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: Oh how does he live? How does he live? Just 949 00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,240 Speaker 1: very eighties teen who just like got too much money 950 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 1: as a teen. Yeah, I feel like his earliers was 951 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: like super richy rich, just like big leather couch as 952 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,919 Speaker 1: we said, like huge. I mean that glass coffee table 953 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: that he smashes. I can really picture it. It's got 954 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: that brass X under it, you know what I mean, big, big, 955 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: big brass, and everything is like Italian leather, and it's 956 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 1: like so many signature air hockey tables and many neo 957 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: classical I want to say, like, it's weird that he 958 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: says that thing about how he wanted a rambling farmhouse, 959 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: because I feel that's kind of styles so not farmhouse. 960 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 1: I think that he learned that term like later in 961 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 1: life as he was writing the book and was just 962 00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 1: like kind of revisionist history sizing, like that divide where 963 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: he was like so true, I didn't want her like 964 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: cheesy like big French handles. And I feel like he 965 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,319 Speaker 1: talks about him and Stephanie like when into a bunch 966 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: of different like furniture places. I feel like their house 967 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: is like he still probably has like a super eighties 968 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 1: screening room, but their central like big lounge space is 969 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,080 Speaker 1: just like kind of bland, big couch. Yeah. Well, I 970 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 1: mean German interior design is just like really weird. And 971 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: it's also like I think there's a lot of like 972 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: leather in it, but everything's like a weird color, so 973 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of leather is in their home. Okay, 974 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 1: who are you in a book? Okay? I think kind 975 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: of I'm a mix of. I think I'm a little 976 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,360 Speaker 1: brad You're leaving the dinner table to go get But 977 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I was just so obsessed with 978 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,799 Speaker 1: that scene that like I liked that. I mean, I'm 979 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 1: also not brad because like I'm not ordering chicken separately 980 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: from malls. Yeah, you're like maybe, Actually, okay, I'm gonna 981 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: say it. I'm the cool pastor. Yeah yeah, like who 982 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: turned my cook? He becomes a stand up. I'm a 983 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 1: pastor turned stand up. Yeah, you absolutely are. Oh wait 984 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,480 Speaker 1: that okay. The stand up reminds me of a Just 985 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: to go back for a second, but there's a scene 986 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: in the book where he's really hung over because he 987 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: went out drinking with John McEnroe and Tatum O'Neil and 988 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,560 Speaker 1: Hawaii one night. Yeah, and he asked this tournament and 989 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: he's like, I was so fucking like hung over and 990 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 1: like I just like didn't even try, didn't think I 991 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 1: was gonna play well. And then he does really well 992 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, that's literally so true. With stand up, 993 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: it's like if you don't if you think you're overthinking, 994 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 1: and then it's like you go and don't care. Then 995 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: you can be just with your body and with your jokes, 996 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: not this like yeah, tied up. And he always says 997 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: like there's two ways of playing and like you can switch. 998 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: It's it's like when there's no pressure, you didn't really 999 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: well when it's a fucking like when it's like some 1000 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 1: random girl in Brooklyn, it's like it's a reading on 1001 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: a rooftop and you're just like, well, this is not 1002 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: a comedy show. I don't care. I'm not trying to 1003 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: press anyone. And then you kill you slay. And then 1004 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 1: when you're like doing someone you really respects show and 1005 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: then you like climb up and stagents with awkward and 1006 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, like I like that one joke. When 1007 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,799 Speaker 1: they like pick that one jime, you're like, kill me. 1008 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm ordering an uber like and then you're going home 1009 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: and you're smashing your class and I've done that. I 1010 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,400 Speaker 1: have one more kind of closing, super sad note to 1011 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: end on about Brooks, Shields and Kenneth. This is fun 1012 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: nineties five Toys B Sides maybe, So you know when 1013 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: Brooke Um goes to David Strickland's house and who is 1014 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 1: her co star who played like the kind of like 1015 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,680 Speaker 1: funny Chandler type on Suddy Susan? Is this in the 1016 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: book this book TV Friends, TV Friends, Brooke Um and 1017 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: Andre go to her Someddy Susan co star's house and 1018 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: like Georgia and Andre feels like super lift out because 1019 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: like they're like always riffing in their characters and they're 1020 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: always like laughing and being like I'm sorry, we're like 1021 00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: talking to our characters. I mean, but the thing that's 1022 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: like he's being a baby, but like being that sounds 1023 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 1: and I would actually want to kill myself. So you 1024 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: know that guy committed suicide, Oh Lily, that's so dark, okay, 1025 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 1: And it's it happened in ninety nine, and the way 1026 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: he commits suicide is crazy. He flew to Vegas with 1027 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: Andy Dick and got a bunch of prostitutes and then 1028 00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: hung himself in his hotel room. And he was found 1029 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:30,479 Speaker 1: by a private investigator hired by Brookshields because he didn't 1030 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: show up for a court date. This is nineteen ninety 1031 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: nine when did Brooke and it was around at the 1032 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,359 Speaker 1: same time, and it's like that is so fucking dark. 1033 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 1: Contres out here at the Australia to who Hall, She's 1034 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,760 Speaker 1: hiring a pi and it's like of Court and it's like, okay, 1035 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: randomly Andy I mean and is like the darkest every 1036 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: day person of death fear, like every day I wake 1037 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: up like teeth chattering, bone chilling fear that I will 1038 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,160 Speaker 1: become Andy Deck. And I was like, oh this, I 1039 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: was closet and I look him up and he was 1040 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: randomly engaged at the time to Tiffany and Berthson. Whoa, 1041 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,440 Speaker 1: this goes so deep. Yeah, darkness this book doesn't get 1042 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: into because also remember how Andrea's sister Rita get married 1043 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: that ancer. But like Mary's this guy Pancho Gonzalez who 1044 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: was like a famous like Mexican tennis star and then 1045 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: but he was like weirdly abusive and then they were 1046 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: estranged and then like he died of stomach cancer really early, 1047 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: and Andre paid for his funeral. But like no one went, 1048 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I blocked that one out. Yeah, well, I 1049 00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: don't think that was all mentioned in the book. I 1050 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,320 Speaker 1: think was kind of like briefly went over and then 1051 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: like if you did a little wiki you could see 1052 00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: the rest of it. But yeah, there's like other darkness 1053 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: really with them, which I think makes a lot of 1054 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 1: sense for Vegas. Yes, it's like it's always it's all dark. 1055 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: So I feel like when we went to Vegas, which 1056 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,959 Speaker 1: was such an amazing weekend, we stayed one day later 1057 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 1: than everyone else in our group, and it was very like, yeah, 1058 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: like it gets you dark when you stay that one day, 1059 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 1: but we all we also won eighty in that Blake 1060 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,680 Speaker 1: Shelton slap. Oh no, I'm not saying I regret. Yeah, 1061 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: it was like the best day of my life. I 1062 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: want eighty dollars on a bulak shell and saw machine. 1063 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: And then we went to Momofuku with that money. Yeah, 1064 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: and we saw a ment a mentalist. I'm just saying, 1065 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: like I got like you see you know, you see 1066 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: the underbelly, Oh for sure, real dak, real fast, for sure. 1067 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of like just like generally like sexy times and darkness. 1068 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: The next book We're gonna do is No Left Garden 1069 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: Duty by Janice Dickenson, supermodel, the world's first um so 1070 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 1: gotta you know her from Antmum and other sort of 1071 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: reality shows of reality shows, but also from the cover 1072 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: of Cosmo magazine and nineteen seventy Good nineteen seventy nine. Um, 1073 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,479 Speaker 1: she is a real fab lady and she's got a 1074 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: crazy rollercoast of her life that we're gonna dig into. 1075 00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so strapping and rockles stick around for more 1076 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: gossip or more martinis, more celebrities and more well us 1077 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: so turn the page all right, um yeah, but like 1078 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: Beast of Luck, literally never hang out with any deck 1079 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,480 Speaker 1: you will die really good advice. Thanks, um okay baas. 1080 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club is presented by prolog Projects and Headgum. 1081 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,880 Speaker 1: The show is produced by Meg Manane, with editorial support 1082 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,360 Speaker 1: from Andrew Passons and Leon Nafock. 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