1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you. 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Patricia Eltin's with us. She was blassed on with our 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: colleague George Knapps six years ago. Her book is called 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: The Dream Class, Know Your Dreams, Know Yourself. Patricia is 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: an author dream analyst. She is a longtime leader of 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: dream training workshops. Is a personal dream consultant to business 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: leaders and celebrities worldwide. Patricia, how are you. 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: I'm great, George. I'm really happy to be here with you. 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: Dreams are fascinating. How did you get involved in this? 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 3: Oh boy, that's a great question. And it's also a 12 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: question of my personal journey from childhood and I talk 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: about it in the introduction in my book. And I 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 3: had a traumatic experience as a kid, and that's and 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: it started happening. So I can talk at length about 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 3: that at some point, but maybe now, I was actually 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: kidnapped and molested when I was five, And the point 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: of being they'll jump right into this right off the 19 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: top of the hour. Here I was. I can talk 20 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: about it now so easily, but at the time I 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: was with a scary guy was a little kid, and 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 3: it happened to me that I had an experience that 23 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: some psychologists over the years, and different people said, oh, well, 24 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: it's a dissociation. I heard voices before something actually horrible 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: happened to me, and I heard a voice from above 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: my head. I was down in a ditch well. This 27 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: this fellow who was in his probably eighteen, had lured 28 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: me with him to go look for his puppy. And 29 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: this was in Los Angeles, and I found that I 30 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: was in this big drainage ditch with him looking for 31 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 3: this puppy. And so I was starting to be molested, 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: and I heard a voice above my head, as loud 33 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 3: as any loud voice, and I said, oh, oh good, 34 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 3: he's here. They're here, And I was so happy that 35 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: somebody was there to save me. But in reality, or 36 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 3: whatever kind of reality we want to believe in our 37 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 3: regular waking life, there wasn't anybody there. But the guy 38 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: who had me, I was so believable. He thought that 39 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: there was somebody there to save me, and he took 40 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 3: off running. He took off running, and it was several 41 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: hours later when I was I was found by the police, 42 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: and to this day I knew I heard a voice, 43 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: So wherever the voice came from, that's what saved me. 44 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: So they did they ever rush and convict this guy. 45 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: They'd never found him. He ran. He was about to 46 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: take me under the highway. That was a big drainage 47 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: ditch that goes under the highway, and they he ran 48 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 3: under there and he was about to take and he 49 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: wanted me to go in there. But fortunately I was 50 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: a little kid and I was afraid of the dark, 51 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: and I said, oh no, no, I'm afraid of the dark. 52 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: I don't want to go there. Thank God. I'm sure 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be here today if I had gone under 54 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: the tunnel with him. So from that point I started 55 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: having what people call nightmares. And I don't like to 56 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: call them nightmares. I like to call them scary images 57 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 3: now that are bringing us to consciousness. So I started 58 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: having nightmares. And at the time, and my parents would 59 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: say to me, Oh, you'll be okay, You'll be okay, 60 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: don't worry, it's nothing, it's just a dream. 61 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Did you wake up crying, Patricia, I. 62 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: Always woke up crying. I always woke up crying. So 63 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: that was the PTSD, that was the post traumatic stress 64 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: that I was experiencing as a kid and into my teens, 65 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: and then in my twenties I was seeking help about 66 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 3: it and then went into studying psychology and one thing 67 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 3: led to another. But that's how I the beginnings and 68 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: then my later on my studies after USC and I 69 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: have got interested in holistic health, so I went to 70 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: the School of Natural Healing and then ended up with 71 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: continuing education at the Want Institute under doctor Pat Allen. 72 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 3: And that was where she said she recognized my gift 73 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: for capturing dreams and really understanding the dream thing. And 74 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: she's almost ninety one years old now, she's still alive, 75 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: and we're very, very close, and we developed this system 76 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: of dream interpretation that springboards off of where Carl Jung 77 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: left off. 78 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's fantastic, it is. Well, well, what at what 79 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: point did you become the dream analyst in in your 80 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: your age? Oh? 81 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: Well, what age did I? Well, I'll tell you about 82 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: the dream first of you don't mind. That dream that 83 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: brought me to this was that scary dream that a 84 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: repetitive dream, by the way, was I was being chased 85 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: by a witch, and a scary witch sort of flying 86 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: low over the ground and I was doing this swimming motion, 87 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: barely able to stay, just barely stay away from the witch. 88 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: And she had a great long broom, the classic witch 89 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: with writing a broom. Let's say, okay, well, that broom 90 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: is a symbol. We'll talk about symbols later, but the 91 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: broom is a symbol, phallic symbol. You can see that 92 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: when you see a broomstick. And that is what's chasing 93 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: me in my dreams. And I'm always just getting away. 94 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: So how I got into it, you're asking me, Well, 95 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: Doctor Allen recognized that I had a gift. As we 96 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: were exploring Carl Jung and these other components of dream interpretation, 97 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: the old fashioned way or the older ways, and then 98 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: we developed the newer version, which is, like I said, 99 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: we springboard off of Carl Jung's work and also bringing 100 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: in the ancient Asian philosophies such as the tai jitsu. 101 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: You know the yin yang symbols, the black and the 102 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: circle with the black and white. Well, that represents the 103 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: masculine and feminine energies, which is the dualistic components of 104 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: the universe, the yin and yang, but it's also the 105 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: positive the negative. It's also the dark markets the light. 106 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: So the entire universe runs on these complementary energies. So 107 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: that's how I bring this into play as well, and 108 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: gradually I started writing and doctor pat and I were 109 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: working on the next theories rather than just dream interpretation 110 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 3: like a dictionary, because as you conceive just from sharing 111 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: my first dream as a child, dreams are extremely personal. 112 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: All dreams are personal, and that's why there's no dream 113 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: dictionary that is going to help all people, especially multi culture. 114 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: Our system goes across cultures, has the personal aspect of 115 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: the dreams. 116 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: Now, Patricia, these decisions to become a dream analyst, though, 117 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: was created by what the dreams you were having as 118 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: a kid. 119 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: Well, it started with that because of my interest, my 120 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: interests to find out of what I why I was dreaming, 121 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: and why other people dream and don't want to know 122 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: what their dreams are about. So I delved and delved 123 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 3: and worked on. Also, the people who influenced me were 124 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: besides Carl Jung and his wonder one of his many 125 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: wonderful books, man and his symbols. And also let's say 126 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: to understand that in my dream, specifically my original dream, 127 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: I'm a voracious dreamer now obviously we have volumes of 128 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: my dreams, but my dream of this low flying part too, 129 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: when I was getting away from the phallic symbol and 130 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: the scary witch type image, that low flying is not grounded. 131 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm above the ground, I'm up in my head. So 132 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: we start talking about how in our male energy is 133 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: our head, our masculine that's our masculine productive thinking ideas energy. 134 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: Now in dreams, when we're in our lower self, we're 135 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: on the ground floor or walking on the ground, we 136 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: are in our feminine energy, and that is our feeling centeredness. 137 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: So also what I was doing was escaping my scary feelings. 138 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: So again what you're asking me is how did I 139 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: actually get into it? Well, it just fell into it 140 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 3: that way, and studied after studying and continuing to study. 141 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: It was doctor Pat who doctor Pat Allen who insisted 142 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 3: I write a book because she and I had been 143 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: collaborating and teaching workshops over the years and had thousands 144 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 3: of notes, and we kept going on and on, as 145 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: I said, having sprungboard off of Carl Jung, but carrying 146 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: on where he would have gone if he had lived. 147 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: We're talking with Patricia Elton's a dream analyst whose book. 148 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 2: Is you wrote it three years ago? Did you not? 149 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: Well, I wrote the first. It's already in its second 150 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: in three years ago. We have four or five years ago, 151 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: and then we have a new printing. It's sold out, 152 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: so we're in a second edition for you. 153 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 2: It's called The Dream Class and your website is the same, 154 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: is it not? 155 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: Yes? Absolutely. 156 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: So there's some key phrases buttures are from your book. 157 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 2: Let's go through them. Know your dreams, know yourself. What 158 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: did you mean by that? 159 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, George, our dreams are a direct link to 160 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: our subconscious mind and the way we can access our 161 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 3: subconscious because let me first say that we are to 162 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: get through our daily lives. We have a lot of 163 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: filters on our conscious mind. Otherwise we'd all be running 164 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: around naked with our hair on fire, if you know 165 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: what I mean. So we have filters that get us 166 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: through being civilized human beings. But in the dream world, 167 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 3: maybe you know, if you dream, George, we can override anything, 168 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 3: we can fly, we can breathe underwater, we can drive 169 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: fantastical cars. So we don't have the same filters in 170 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 3: our subconscious and our subconscious mind is where our truth lies, 171 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: and our truth comes from our unconscious, including the collective 172 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: unconscious of the world. But our unconscious bubbles up through 173 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: our subconscious mind, and that's where our unfiltered truths are 174 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 3: that we can access through understanding our dreams. 175 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: What gets us to that point to know these dreams? 176 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: Who is who is teaching us? Or are we learning 177 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: on our own? 178 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 3: Partially? We're learning on our own because our dreams are 179 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: incrementally desensitizing us to our truths symbolically so that we 180 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 3: can start to accept what we really need to know. 181 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: You know, in waking life, a lot of people ruminate 182 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: and they don't know what they should do, or Oh, 183 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: I'm confused, what do I do? And should I? Should 184 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 3: I keep this job? Should I? Should I find another job? 185 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 3: Or this relationship? Oh this relationship is it too much 186 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: for me? Should I stick with it? 187 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: Or so? 188 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: We're all always ruminating about things. But our dreams can 189 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: help us come to our our real truths, how we 190 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 3: truly think and feel without all the filters of our 191 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: waking life. A conscious mind. 192 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: Another one of the phrases Patricia all dreams wish us well, 193 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: what does that mean? Is that true? 194 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: Yes? It is true, even the scary stuff, even what 195 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: people call nightmares. And there are people who say I 196 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: don't want to know, I don't want to know. Well, 197 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: it's people who want to know who can grow from 198 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: our dreams. We can grow through knowing ourselves and knowing 199 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 3: what our real truths are. And even if they're scary images. 200 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: And by the way, dreams aren't literal. They come to 201 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: us symbolically. And sometimes there are people or other things 202 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: in our dreams that seem like they're familiar, but they're 203 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: still represent enting some other aspects of ourself what I 204 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 3: can get into later too. The aspects start out. Let's 205 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: put it this way, how we understand start to understand 206 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: our dreams. Because I wrote this book originally based I 207 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: was teaching to other therapists and health providers, clinicians and coaches, 208 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: so or when we were teaching. Now, what I wanted 209 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: to write this book was so the lay person could 210 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: start to understand their own dreams. So it starts by 211 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: understanding that dreams come in in a hierarchy of people, nature, 212 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 3: and things. Now, things like inanimate objects start at the 213 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 3: lowest level of consciousness, and as we're getting to know 214 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: the message better, it goes up to the next level 215 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 3: and as the message is bubbling up through our subconscious 216 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 3: trying to get to our conscious mind. We then get 217 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: to nature. That would be animals, landscape, so that could 218 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:30,959 Speaker 3: be rivers, trees, dogs and cats and horses. So that's nature. 219 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: Now we're coming up to the next level towards consciousness, 220 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: that's people. When people start appearing in our dreams, then 221 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: we're getting closer to getting the message. And that would 222 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 3: be there are men in their dreams, and women in 223 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 3: our dreams are babies, there are old people. So again, 224 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: when you're dreaming. This goes back to Carl Jung wasn't 225 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 3: teaching this in dream world, but he was teaching it 226 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: in psychotherapy psychoanalysis. So that's why I say we took 227 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: it all the way where he was going if he 228 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 3: had lived into the dream world. Which means the Yungian 229 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 3: paradox is that men or male figures in our dreams 230 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: represent our feminine side, our feeling centeredness, and women or 231 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: girls in our dreams represent our thinking, our masculine energy, 232 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: our productive side. So that's where it gets a little 233 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: tricky and people sometimes have a hard time understanding that concept. 234 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 3: Now that's represented in the Yin Yang 235 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Symbol listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight 236 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: at one am Eastern, and go to coast tocoastam dot 237 00:18:58,840 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: com for more