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Speaker 1: five players who could be traded this offseason, and the

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Speaker 1: Mets are linked to thirteen of them. According to Jeff

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Speaker 1: Passon and Kylie McDaniel, it's absolutely crazy. It hit the

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Speaker 1: they are involved in basically every good player that you

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Speaker 1: and James are just gonna go through and tell you

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Speaker 1: the guys that they're linked to give you our thoughts,

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Speaker 1: our opinions. We also got a new little Luis Robert

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Speaker 1: over on Twitter. Before we do get going into it, though,

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Speaker 1: James gotta start at the top of this list, right,

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Speaker 1: Will Tarrek Scoopble talk real quick? I mean have to.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the Tarry Schoolble stuff has cooled over

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Speaker 2: doesn't seem like the doors closed, But it does seem

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Speaker 1: Ten percent chance of getting traded according to Kylie McDaniel

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Speaker 1: If you blow them away, they'll take them. And team fits.

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Speaker 1: Number one team that he put there is the New

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Speaker 2: But I still think there's no way that benjer McLain

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Speaker 2: And I think that I wonder about the Tigers getting

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Speaker 2: Like I just I question if this name keeps coming up,

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Speaker 2: Before you guys listening to this, Ken Rosendal dropped lit

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Speaker 1: Truthfully, probably unless the Dodgers want to be like you

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Speaker 1: If there was ever a team that could trade mchy

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Speaker 1: Could Hunter Green be one of those names right now?

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Speaker 1: He says a ten percent chance of being traded. We

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Speaker 2: when you do get hunter Green, you're getting one.

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Speaker 1: Of the best pitchers in the league. Definitely next up

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Speaker 2: than left with the Red Sox, only it's not the

435
00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 2: big arm isn't really worth it when you have the

436
00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,960
Speaker 2: Green Monster out there, like he kind of loses a

437
00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:14,360
Speaker 2: lot of mind.

438
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,160
Speaker 1: And Jarons Ran still has a good arms nothing. Yes,

439
00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:16,919
Speaker 1: Jaron's are ran there.

440
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,159
Speaker 2: But just these these guys make sense to me, but

441
00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,320
Speaker 2: doesn't seem like that's what the Red Sox want at

442
00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,800
Speaker 2: this moment.

443
00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,600
Speaker 1: No, but we'll wait and see. They're they're gonna move

444
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,240
Speaker 1: one of them though, Yeah, I think so too. And

445
00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,720
Speaker 1: funny enough, the next guy on this list is not

446
00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,520
Speaker 1: linked to the Mets. I don't know why because McKenzie Gore.

447
00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,800
Speaker 1: I think McKenzie Gore.

448
00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,160
Speaker 2: Is, oddly enough, kind of exactly the kind of pitcher

449
00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,400
Speaker 2: of the Mets are looking for right now.

450
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,000
Speaker 1: Only reason I could see that is maybe the Nationals

451
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,840
Speaker 1: has organization like we're not trading this guy into fasion,

452
00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,879
Speaker 1: Like there's just there's no way we're gonna face this

453
00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,680
Speaker 1: guy four for four or five times this year for

454
00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480
Speaker 1: the next five seasons and be like shit, there he

455
00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,160
Speaker 1: did it again.

456
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,119
Speaker 2: I do think something that's funny about that, though, is

457
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,720
Speaker 2: that the Nationals are going like young cutting at all

458
00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 2: that stuff. A lot of times he's like new new

459
00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,800
Speaker 2: hyphen angled like Youngster did day then lakes GMS probably would.

460
00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,280
Speaker 2: I don't think they cares much about something like that.

461
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,639
Speaker 2: But also, relatively to the old school, if you are.

462
00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,520
Speaker 1: Going that way, you just you don't treat mackenzie Gore.

463
00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, I mean, but it seems like they're going to.

464
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,919
Speaker 2: I told you this the trade deadline. You called me

465
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:16,280
Speaker 2: a fool for even suggesting it.

466
00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,119
Speaker 1: You were wrong, Then we were foolish. I told he

467
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,040
Speaker 1: wasn't going, told you he was available, and now he's

468
00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:21,639
Speaker 1: clearly available.

469
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,760
Speaker 2: And something I like about mackenzie Gore is that you've

470
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,399
Speaker 2: you've established a bit of a workload floor here. We

471
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,520
Speaker 2: got two straight years a thirty starts from Mackenzie Gore.

472
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,000
Speaker 2: It's been wildly inconsistent. Sometimes he looks like the best

473
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 2: picture on earth, and there's none all have a month

474
00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 2: where he looks like he literally can't throw a strike.

475
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,560
Speaker 2: But like it's just he doesn't really doesn't repeat himself

476
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 2: very well, Like he's the way this pitch has moved

477
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,800
Speaker 2: isn't consistent in some of the top pitches in the league.

478
00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,640
Speaker 2: He got the new slider in this year, looked great,

479
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,760
Speaker 2: but then all of a sudden he just lost it

480
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,840
Speaker 2: in the middle of the summer, Like he doesn't. He

481
00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 2: never really threw high fastballs, even though like the thing

482
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,920
Speaker 2: he really should have been doing was throwing high fastballs

483
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 2: all along. It's it's he to me is one of

484
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 2: the most fun guys out there, But I am it's

485
00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,879
Speaker 2: it's telling that the Mets were not linked in this

486
00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,520
Speaker 2: article to him, And I feel like we haven't heard

487
00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,160
Speaker 2: anything from other people either about Metz and mckenzigrey either,

488
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 2: so that's probably just the case.

489
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, national, Yeah, and if credit to them, if they

490
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,159
Speaker 1: cross us off that list, I'll tell you what this

491
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 1: next guy, Stephen Kwan, I have zero interest. This is

492
00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 1: someone I do not want on the team. It's not

493
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,320
Speaker 1: Stephen Kuan is a completely fine baseball player. That's kind

494
00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 1: of how I describe him as. I think he's fine.

495
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 1: I think the power numbers are gonna get even more

496
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,439
Speaker 1: nerve than they already are in city field, because we

497
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 1: know the ball flies in right field in Cleveland. He's

498
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,080
Speaker 1: just he's a contact first guy with a good glove

499
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,159
Speaker 1: and left field, and I just I don't think that

500
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: giving up what the Mets would have to is even

501
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,919
Speaker 1: close to worth it for him. No, for sure, not especially.

502
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 2: I mean unless you have, like on strong indication when

503
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 2: you have internally is that he could be a plus

504
00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:42,679
Speaker 2: defensive center fielder.

505
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: If you don't think he can, if you know that,

506
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 1: it changes things.

507
00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 2: He was bad and left last year, Yeah, but I

508
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 2: still think one like one OAA blip shouldn't also turn

509
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 2: you off. And also I think he was actually quite

510
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 2: good left lest year. He was plus five OAA, he

511
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 2: was plus So.

512
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 1: Where do you get the negative? Wasn't he negative at

513
00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,200
Speaker 1: one point? I don't know he was?

514
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,840
Speaker 2: Last year he was new patrol and center but he

515
00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 2: only played out there for a few winnings, and that

516
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: was kind of.

517
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: It, all right. Maybe from the last time I spoke

518
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 1: about Stephen Quan defensively he was he's gotten better. I

519
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: swear to God that I saw something where he was like,

520
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,440
Speaker 1: not good defensively last year. No, he was definitely good defense.

521
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 1: He's a great defensive player.

522
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 2: But I just I question what you get offensively from

523
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: a guy like Stephen Kuan, like especially even last year,

524
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,240
Speaker 2: where just that the wind blows the wrong way, the

525
00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 2: tye pushes the wrong way for like, mister no power

526
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 2: and sudden you get a two seventy batting average with

527
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: eleven homers, like and now you just gave a bunch

528
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: of assets for a great defensive left fielder.

529
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: That's me. He's just not That's not a play. He

530
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 1: would have hit eight home runs last year in city

531
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 1: field if he played all his games there, Like, I

532
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't care. It's not especially the fact the Mets

533
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: still do have some some work to do with this lineup,

534
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: Like you can't you can't make Stephen Kwan a priority

535
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 1: at this moment. No, absolutely not, because where's he hitting

536
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 1: this lineup? Like on a full team where You're like,

537
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: Steven Kwuan hit seventh, Yeah, sixth.

538
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe you trade all these players for

539
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 2: a guy who hit six Like hell no, yeah, hopefully not.

540
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 2: Why I don't think that this is serious. I'm gonna

541
00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 2: ignore that one.

542
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 1: Uh. Next up for the Mets that they are linked to,

543
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: well that was William arbraw Ooh, Chris Bubach. Chris Bubach

544
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: is a fun one.

545
00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 2: This one makes sense, But it seems like this I

546
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: seem like this probably would have happened if it was possible.

547
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159
Speaker 2: He just Chris Boobage looks seems like the arm is

548
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 2: not great, not great right now. The way last season

549
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: ended after coming back to the rotation, stuff looks amazing.

550
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 2: Chris Boombage is awesome simply as a pitcher. I think

551
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 2: Chris Boobage can actually be a two.

552
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 1: Like.

553
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 2: I'm not in on Chris Boubage, but it's just how

554
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 2: many things can we expect from Chris Boobage at this juncture.

555
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Mets are willing to

556
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: take on that risk, because I mean, in the beginning

557
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 1: of this, you know a little blurb about him. Any

558
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: deal for Boobach is a bet on his health and

559
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: though Kansas City might have to tap into its rotation.

560
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Yet now feel bad. He has perhaps the best combination

561
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 1: of performance and affordability questions now with standing, like that's

562
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 1: he's he's very risky. Maybe like if you move Jeff

563
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 1: McNeil for Chris Boobage because they need a second basement.

564
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: But like, but they're they're the recent in India, so

565
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 2: I feel like that doesn't happen anymore.

566
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Jonathan India sucks. I think that's just you play the bench.

567
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: No, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know, I

568
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 2: think he can make still eight million dollars. Like I

569
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: don't think the Royal's pick I eight million dollars to

570
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: ride the bench. The Royals are they run things.

571
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: He should they should pay him eight million dollars to

572
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: ride the bench because he stinks. I'm sure that those

573
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 1: few days before the non tender deadline, they went around

574
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: the league looking for their second basement, and when they

575
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 1: couldn't get one, they were like, all right, let's just

576
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: resign Jonathan India and run this. Just bring back Jonathan India.

577
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: Imagine Jonathan India Jeff McNeil platoon. That's costing you over

578
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars and you're getting you're getting.

579
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: Average offense and averages nineteen.

580
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: That sounds brutal, that sounds terrible for a tim it's electric.

581
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: I think you're just you're just a hater man.

582
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 1: That's all this is. That's all this guy you'll probably

583
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: I think you'll probably have more interest than me in

584
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,679
Speaker 1: this next guy, number nineteen on the list. Mitch Keller

585
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: is someone I I do not want. I can't see

586
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: Mitch Keller pitcher for the Mets. We'd be doing the

587
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: Pirates a favor. I think so too.

588
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: But I think that there's a weird, like lunatic fringe

589
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: of Pirates fans who think that Mitch Keller is going

590
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 2: to get them like a king's ransom in a trade.

591
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: And he better not even get nothing.

592
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 2: No, but what Mitch Keller gives you is just again

593
00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 2: volume floor, Like Mitch Keller's gonna go out there and

594
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: throw you know what the Mets needed. Last year, Met's

595
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Mitch Keller's on their team. Last year

596
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: they make him by five games.

597
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thatt's make the playoffs if who else, if Paul

598
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: doesn't shows up.

599
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: But I think that like with Mitch Keller, you could

600
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 2: probably still convince yourself in the ceiling just because the

601
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 2: depth of the repertoire and the velocity. But I think

602
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 2: he's proven that none of these off speed pitches as

603
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 2: they're currently constructed should be considered plus and but again,

604
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: like the Mets need works a big guy guy to

605
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: his knee. He throws everything though, like Mitch Keller go

606
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 2: out there. You can see seven different pitches, like he's

607
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: become this kitchen sink guy, which is funny. But I

608
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 2: just again from a volume play, like, I could see

609
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: this making sense for the Mets. If the musical chairs

610
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 2: of aces doesn't ever actually happen, the Mets don't get anybody,

611
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: and weirdly enough, the starting a playoff series Game four

612
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 2: maybe Yeah, that's that's my thing too. I mean exactly,

613
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 2: I wouldn't trade true assets for him, Like even if

614
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: they ask for sprot I'd be like, probably it's not

615
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 2: interested too much, too much Broke, I give Munk Sproke

616
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: could be Mitch Keller in a few years. But interesting

617
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: that Jeff Pass who went through Kyleer mcdannel went through

618
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: this article and there were two first he's been mentioned

619
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: and Andy Diz and Wilson Catres, and neither were linked

620
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: to the Mets.

621
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: Per them. You know why why Pete A Lone is

622
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: coming back?

623
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: It does I almost like feel bad for Pete that

624
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: he's gone to a free agency again again and nobody,

625
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: Like he's like, who want me?

626
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: No One? But that's kind of my hug. Yeah, I

627
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: just I don't know. It just seems like it's really

628
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: just the Mets in the Red Sox.

629
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: If he wants to go to the team's actually motivated

630
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: to win, and it seems like the Red Sox are

631
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: very much prioritizing Alex Bregman and will not sign both.

632
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 2: So it seems like we're gonna drag our way through

633
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 2: this whole thing again and we're gonna get to mid

634
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: or end of January and it's gonna be like, hey, Pete,

635
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: you want.

636
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: Three years again like we offered you last year, unless

637
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: he wants to go play again for the Angels, like

638
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll give him the money he's looking for.

639
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: But I think what was the report that he has

640
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: offers on the table, but he's waiting for a team

641
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: to really step up to the plate. It's like, oh,

642
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: you got nowhere even close to the offers you thought

643
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: you would, which we knew this, this this was so obvious,

644
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: but it's happened now we're across baseball. To me, I

645
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: think has become one of the most underrated free agents

646
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I league. Yeah, because we're we're we're weighing the defense

647
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: way too much with him. It's not that we're winning

648
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: the defense way too much.

649
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: If every team was lining up and p Alonzo was

650
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: getting six or seven year offers, I would be not

651
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: that upset to like walk away from that just because

652
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Speaker 2: thirty seven year old pe loans are for like twenty

653
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: eight million dollars when like next year he shouldn't be

654
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: playing first base every single day.

655
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: That's scary.

656
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 2: That'sm looks like the idea of Colle Bellinger right now

657
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 2: with like if Kolley Bellinger or Bobashet Boba Schets gets

658
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: seven years and p Alonzo gets three, that's not even

659
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: the remote consideration for me. Like Kyle Schwarb for three years,

660
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: thirty thirty one, thirty two was just one of the

661
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: best hitters in baseball. Pete has all the bad speed

662
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: and all the powers. Just do that again, And Kyle

663
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Schwarb was very valuable doing that as designated hither.

664
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Speaker 1: That's really not an issue for me. No, I don't

665
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: care about his defense. You've heard I think people have

666
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: heard my takes enough. It's like, just if he stops

667
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: being so goddamn aggressive going after the ball to his right,

668
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: maybe now having Marcus Simian their gogle of second basement,

669
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: maybe he gets a little more patient. He doesn't feel

670
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: like he has to go make those plays. Pete all

671
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden just becomes a completely fine, average defensive

672
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: first basemen. You're like, oh, elite bat with who gives

673
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: a shit defense? Amazing.

674
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to keep that moving down this list,

675
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera and Sandy al Contra were both listed here,

676
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: and neither were listed as fits for the Mets, and

677
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: Edward Corbrera, Kylie and Jeff Paston gave him a forty

678
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: percent chance of being traded Sandy thirty percent chance.

679
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: Interesting.

680
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, three things there. One neither to the Mets

681
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 2: is crazy to me. Two higher likelihood of Edward Corbrera

682
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: being traded also really crazy. Three I've kind of fully

683
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 2: flipped on Sandy Now I want Sandy back. I want

684
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 2: Sandy Badley on this team, Like I think Sandy's one

685
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: of the best players for the Mets to go out

686
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: and actually target right now.

687
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Again, I think I think we're running into the same

688
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: thing where I think the Marlins are like half ish

689
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: trying to compete, and I think they're like, I can't

690
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: give them to the Mets like that, that like double

691
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 1: hurts them. They're gonna get worse and they're gonna make

692
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: another team in their division better.

693
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: But again, similarly, if you're getting the best offer from someone,

694
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 2: if you're trading these guys, you're making Mets.

695
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Probably aren't gonna be the best offer for these guys either.

696
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: Why not the Mets would die have either of these

697
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: guys in this club. Like also, if you're trading these pitchers,

698
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: you already have a mid lineup and you're still probably

699
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: waiting for the farm system to really take effect over

700
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: the next few years. If you keep Sandy and Edward

701
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: Cabreer from Peter Bendix and Mylin's perspective, you legit have

702
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: like a top seven rotation in baseball that the upside's

703
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 2: top three if everything clicks right with like Snelling, Thomas White,

704
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: all the guys, Ryan Weathers and these guys stay healthy.

705
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: If you trade them.

706
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: That's admission that we were not actually trying to win again,

707
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: so why not just train them.

708
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: To the Mets? Then it's like it's the double negative.

709
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I think.

710
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess maybe, but that seems like

711
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: that's something they seems like they would more. I think

712
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: they would consider doing it.

713
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if also, again, it feels like they know

714
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: more than us, so for them to not their names

715
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: and here feels like pretty significant. Maybe from the past

716
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: conversations the Mets had with them, they were like, we

717
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: want Carson Bench and the Mets are like, well, you're

718
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: never gonna get him, Yeah, just to pay the division

719
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: taxt that part, that part does make tons of sense.

720
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: Any other guys that the Mets were linked to, I

721
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: don't think there was any other place. Now it's more

722
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: so the Mets' names that are linked to being trade.

723
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil got on here at number twenty five, and

724
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: he has one of the highest predicted chances of getting

725
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,959
Speaker 1: traded at eighty percent. And the team fits are Pirates, Giants,

726
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: and Royals. I think I'm doing one more quick scroll.

727
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: I think he has the highest Actually, eighty percent, which

728
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: was seventy five makes sense.

729
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: It makes sense. Like we've talked about it from a

730
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: fit perspective before we got the Lindor stuff, that McNeil

731
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: was probably gone anyway. Like we liked Jeff, he served

732
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: his purpose, but he's gonna be thirty four years old.

733
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: Now they have a second basement plays good defense, the

734
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: utility man. For the price that you pay, the Mets

735
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: can probably go make their team better elsewhere by moving McNeil,

736
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: And it seems like that's the scenario. Shout out, Oh Wexler,

737
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: wex rules and Daniel, Yeah, Daniel Wexler on Twitter. He's

738
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: been hyping up metsa trade McNeil for Justin Lawrence and

739
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: Evan Sis And I'm like, anything that's got my boy,

740
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: Justin Lawrence, bring him to Queens please.

741
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: I think also we're in the spot where it's so

742
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: obvious now we've talked to you guys about earlier this

743
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: week just the Mets want to change vibe inside of

744
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 2: this clubhouse very much, and ways to do that are

745
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: getting rid of the guys who've been there for a

746
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: long time in club passes that I haven't won, and like,

747
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: I still like Jeff McNeil. I think I think we're

748
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: now similarly beginning to under ray Jeff McNeil's a baseball player. Like,

749
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: I think that if Jeff McNeil goes and play second

750
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: base for another team next year and we have Marcus

751
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: Emian for the whole year, like there's a world whe

752
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: Jeff McNeil's a more valuable player, oh.

753
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Like Jeff actually played fine defense. He

754
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: was a totally three or four OAA guy at second

755
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: base in the smaller sample that he played there, and

756
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: he was a little better than league average at the plate,

757
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Like that's that's the player he is now. He's not

758
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: the one thirty one to forty WRC plus guy, but

759
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: that and then also while being able to play the

760
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: aultfhel like that is very valuable to teams, old Dodgers teams,

761
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: they would have been like Jeff McNeil, like, give me

762
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: more of that.

763
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: He could change the trajectory of the Pirates franchise next year.

764
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: I think the Royals too, The Giants would love him.

765
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: They're like, there's there's places that again, Jef McNeil Candiers, Yeah,

766
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: oh this place. Jeff negil can be a very valuable

767
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: baseball player. It's just it might not be here.

768
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: Anymore.

769
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: And the thoracic outlet thing makes it strange. It's interesting

770
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: that hasn't been talked about much. Teams must not be

771
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: super concerned about that from a hitter's perspective, and I

772
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 2: guess the defensive players perspective if he plays second. But

773
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you could put him in less

774
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: with that arm anymore, because it wasn't really great to

775
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: begin with him with that level of injury.

776
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: That might be risky. It definitely hurts his value a bit,

777
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying there. I do wonder what like

778
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: drastic outlet does to someone who doesn't throw hard like

779
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: normally you're like, I'm worried about a guy who's going

780
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: from ninety five to like ninety It's like, if there're

781
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: seventy five, Yeah, you throw seventy five, you probably just

782
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: still throw seventy five, I guess.

783
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: And then two other players that were listed here as

784
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: Mets trade candidates. I think these are also very obvious,

785
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: including Jack O'Neal, But it's code that saying again, Mark Fiantos,

786
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: out of those three guys, how many do you think

787
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: are Mets on opening day one?

788
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: Which or you just had one like a general one.

789
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I just a general one. I don't know who it's

790
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be, but I think one of these is on

791
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: the Mets. I think the most likely, which is my

792
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: least favorite, is gonna be Mark Fiento's because I don't

793
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what you can move him for right now.

794
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I think there's still I will a glimmer of hope

795
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: that and we've had conversations about this before that Viendoes

796
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: can be a lefty masher off the bench.

797
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

798
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the best case scenario for

799
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 1: him right now. And he really is being traded at

800
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: zero value, like he has nothing going for him, He

801
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: has no options, he has nothing.

802
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: And we've gone through the last few years where the

803
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: Mets have just had one of the most poorly constructed

804
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: benches in the league, I think going on like five

805
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: full years now. So I just so many things open

806
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: up without a guy him on the roster. But you

807
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: just need you need guys who can do a lot

808
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: of things, like because you have three bench spots, one

809
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: as the backup catcher, we want to leave opportunities next

810
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: year for Jet Williams of Carson bench to make their way.

811
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: Into this team. Tyrone Taylor is gonna most likely be

812
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: one of those outfield options too as well on the bench.

813
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Or if he's not, that's a platoon in center field.

814
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: And then if you want to resign Peede Alonzo, which

815
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 2: I think is slightly better than fifty percent chance at

816
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: this point, but you don't want him to play first

817
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: base every day or and his stuff had this tweet

818
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 2: on this take on Twitter the other day.

819
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: Who's the other first baseman? Now, yes, who's good enough

820
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: at first base? Defense?

821
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Who's clogging up a roster in any way, shape or

822
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: form to where you now can d h p the

823
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: Lonzo and like this guy can go to the bench

824
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: sometimes like it's it's the more you try to construct

825
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: a good bench for the Mets to tighter, the squeeze

826
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: gets when you want to platoon for his base, have

827
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: to figure out centerfield and you have a backup catcher

828
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: on there.

829
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: It makes.

830
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Cody Bellinger's the fit it sadly is if he gets

831
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: if he gets a six year deal, and I'm not

832
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: gonna be thrilled about it, and also just getting you

833
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: guys ready for this trade right now. Mark dropt this

834
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: to me the other day. The code I's saying good

835
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: for Jake Myers. One for one is gonna gonna hurt

836
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: like hell, oh that's that's it's gonna stain t.

837
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: That's if we can't get Louis Robert, we can get

838
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Myron Buxton on like normal deals, I will. I wish

839
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: I could make a bet somewhere that isaga for Jake Myers.

840
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: It's got to be. As soon as I saw he

841
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: was available for starting pitching, I sent you the tweels

842
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: like that. That's the trade.

843
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 2: That's it, I know, which is kind of sad, but

844
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: how much sense it makes just again makes tons of such.

845
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: But Myers is a disgusting defensive center fielder. Disgusting.

846
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: Similarly, Alec Thomas was less than on this piece. He

847
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: can play the defensive center field, but I mean he

848
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: can't really hit that much at all. If you can't

849
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: hit in Arizona, you can't hit city field. Your boy,

850
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 2: Garrett Mitchell, he's still kicking around over there. I still

851
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: see something that could happen there. But this I think

852
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: center field is going to be.

853
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: The next box that's checked by the Mets. Yeah, feels

854
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: like it, and he kind of has to be right, Yeah,

855
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: because you want to wait on Pete.

856
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: And I think the Edwin thing is going to drag

857
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: as well, especially with the qualifying offer. Jason Demingiz is available,

858
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: So you know, I mean that talk about not a

859
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: centerfield maybe he's someone who could play first base.

860
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean he he looks like Lucas Dude out there

861
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: when Lucas Dudo was playing left field.

862
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Rough it's going to work out to also tell the

863
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: people that your your Devin Williams take that you dropped

864
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: me the night ra okay.

865
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: So my take, Glex Devin Williams is Galaxy Brave million

866
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: one thousand IQ is that the Mets overpaid for Devin

867
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: Williams because it's gonna bump up Edwin Diaz's value, and

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Speaker 1: because he has the qualifying offer attached to him, teams

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Speaker 1: aren't gonna want to pay that extra value. So it

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Speaker 1: actually just puts Edwin Dat right back into the Mets hands.

871
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: Is like, Devin Williams got fifty million, Oh, Edwin Diaz

872
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: needs one hundred and twenty, We're not paying him that.

873
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: And then because he has the qualifying offer, it's like, well,

874
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: just come on back to the Mets for like four

875
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: for ninety and call it a day. You told me

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: that the other night, and I was already kind of

877
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: after that. I was like, dude, that's a great idea.

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00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: I know right by the point you made that, But

879
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: Galaxy braid it just it feels like becau Amelia Pugan

880
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: signed this deal on Wednesday as well. So now that

881
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: is what you signed with back to the Reds two

882
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: for twenty one opt out. Great deal, great deal for them. Yeah, oh,

883
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 2: great deal all around.

884
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: Another Square deal. That's the Square deals this offseason. I

885
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: really appreciate that.

886
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: But the way that also the David Stearns talked about

887
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: Devin Williams. Do you hear the exact words he used?

888
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: It was real dynamic picture, right, dynamic picture that we loved,

889
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: we can't wait to use in high leverage situations. He

890
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: didn't mention closer, he didn't mention ninth inning. I want

891
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: to find the exact quote. Devon's dynamic pitcher will help

892
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: bolster the back of the bullpen. He's an experienced arm

893
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: of the proven track record pitching high KHI leverage situations.

894
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 2: You're excited to welcome Devnon's family, the Queens. That's hilarious,

895
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: hilariously leaving the door would for either Edwin Diaz, I think,

896
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Speaker 2: or Robert Suarez still be a.

897
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: Fit with the it'd be weird to pay Robert Suarez

898
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: because he's gonna get like a four for seventy five,

899
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: four for eighty probably.

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00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: I don't think that all. I think Robert s Warez

901
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: is gonna get it too. Robert s Worrez is Sneaky's

902
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 2: so much older than you think. He's like thirty four,

903
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: isn't he. I think he's like thirty six. But that's

904
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: why I was like, just just pay Edwin, Just pay Edwin.

905
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: I think that if you get to a situation where

906
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: it's like it's three for Suarez, five for Edwin, I feel, yeah,

907
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: Robert wars is.

908
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: Thirty four, he's gonna be thirty five on an opening day.

909
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: It's just I still rather give five to Edwin. I

910
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: think that there's no chance of giving five to Edwind.

911
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: Can be honest with you. I think there's notes you've

912
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: been telling me that I disagree. I think the Mets

913
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: to do.

914
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: I think they're they're weighing four in their heads right now,

915
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 2: and they're there. There's people have meetings every single day

916
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: talk about edwind DS four years.

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00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: Five for one oh three, break the record. We're done

918
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: with it. I'm telling you, I don't think they're doing that.

919
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: That's just honestly listen. But I'm happy to be the

920
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: optimist here and be like, I think David Stearns is

921
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna do it, but I.

922
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: Still think that we might get him for four is

923
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: where I was gonna go with that too. But I

924
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna ge him five. And I think

925
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: if Robert Swarez pops his head out.

926
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: For two, I think that my just bite, I probably will.

927
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: He though he just saw Ryan Helsley get two years

928
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: and Nevin Williams get three. He's like, come on, guys, yeah,

929
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: I guess I guess that's sure. He probably needs three minimum.

930
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: But they're like, yeah, they's al much younger than like

931
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: five years younger than this. Gu I mean, Deblon's are

932
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: thirty one. Hells, he's thirty two.

933
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: But thirty four is old. I think seeing Ryan Helsey

934
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: get two for twenty eight is like Robert Suarez is like,

935
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: I gotta get four.

936
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: I mean hopefully, but yeah, I mean, I guess we'll

937
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: see what happens. I think that the bullpen's going to

938
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: get worked. Out in a very strange way.

939
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: Just some other fun names that I want to see

940
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: your reaction to. About Kyle Freelan, you want to pick

941
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: him up? I mean they'll know.

942
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you see, you saw who was on this

943
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: list to my hands a reliever. Jojo Romera, my boy,

944
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: I've been saying that lost season. Someone's getting him. Someone's

945
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 2: gonna be lucky to get Jojo Romera. What about Louis Evarino,

946
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: bring him home? I don't even knowing.

947
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: I know there's been a conversation on social media about, uh,

948
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: the Mets just keep bringing back all the Yankees or whatever,

949
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: and it's just hilarious because there's a lot of Mets

950
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: players that played for the Yankees two in the past

951
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: year or two.

952
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: There's also a good reason for like a guy who

953
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: used to play for the Yankees to play for the Mets.

954
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: It's like moving sucks, Yeah, of course I don't want

955
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: to move. I want to I want to stay in

956
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: my city. If I like New York and the Mets

957
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: offered me a deal.

958
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Yankee fanins completely forgot that they had Paul

959
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: Blackburn on their team last year. In Carlos Carrasco, who

960
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: were statistically two of the worst pictures in baseball last season. Also,

961
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: I loved it our Devin Williams video.

962
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Speaker 2: First of all, thank you all guys all so much

963
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: for watching that flooded with Yankee fans just dropping wild

964
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: insults about the Mets, about you, and I love listening

965
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: to that.

966
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I love seeing that. Now the Devin Williams Redemption.

967
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: Arc that's we recorded that so quickly after I was

968
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 2: so scared by that contract with the Redemption arct's.

969
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: Gonna be sweet. Oh, it's gonna be awesome. He's gonna

970
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: be money for the Mets. But don't even cares. Not

971
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: before Yeah, don't care. We'll love to see what you

972
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: guys think down the common section below. Who do you

973
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: think the Mets should go after? Who do you think

974
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna trade? Don't forget to subscribe to the Mets

975
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,880
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Speaker 1: Google drops the rating, drops a review, download, subscribe, Tweet

977
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: us all your Spotify raps that happens shit, we appreciate it. Also,

978
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: YouTube does a YouTube rap. If we're in there, tweet

979
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: us and we'll repost on our Instagram, on our Twitter

980
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: whatever we got you got anything else dreams. I was

981
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: gonna say, shout out all you guys in the Spotify rap.

982
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 2: It's crazy when this happens every year and I see

983
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 2: that there was like hundreds of thousands of hours, like

984
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: a hundred thousands that listens.

985
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: Of mets up in a year. I'm like, that's crazy.

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00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: But thank you guys for that. You guys are the

987
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: best nuts nuts. We appreciate you guys, and uh, that's

988
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: pretty much it. You can follow James on social media

989
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: at James Shiado. I'm Draftnick Mark. We'll catch you guys

990
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: all later, maybe this week. I don't know. If there's news,

991
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it, so we'll see you then

992
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: peace out. That contes