WEBVTT - The Quick Fix Will Not Work.  Steve Sylvester talks to Armstrong & Getty

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<v Speaker 1>our part. So a lot of homeless problems and stories

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<v Speaker 1>that are getting national intention all across the nations to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different areas of the country are dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with this problem right now. Definitely most acute worst on

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast. We're city after city up and down

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<v Speaker 1>the coast is just inundated with bums and junkies, and

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<v Speaker 1>more and more are showing up every day. Bumping around Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. For several days. How many homeless people do

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<v Speaker 1>you see? How How common was it there? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really least oh you know, a handful, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good handful typical through the years, big city collection of beggars.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many tourists in d C that there

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<v Speaker 1>are a fair number of beggars there. Um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't nearly as bad as it was helpful. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>if you're in San Francisco or Los Angeles, you'd have

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<v Speaker 1>a you'd have a handful at the one coffee shop

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're at. Oh yeah, yeah. Like I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty typical the way it's always been, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through the years. It's not exploding like it is on

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast. Speaking of which you may have seen

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<v Speaker 1>or heard or read about Steve Sylvester last week. He's

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<v Speaker 1>an antique shop owner in the Capitol City, California, Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>and had a mostly naked guy bust into his his

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<v Speaker 1>business the other day and cause of Frankas and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>got interviewed. You know, honestly, I think it mostly got

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<v Speaker 1>attention because the dude was mostly naked, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the hook for the dumb, dumb media. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>big part of it. Interesting, that's that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It also comes in the wake of Liz Novak, who

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<v Speaker 1>we talked to, who is a shop owner in the

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<v Speaker 1>same area, who said she's closing her up a business

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<v Speaker 1>and moving it because of the incursion of bombs and junkies.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Sylvester joins us now to talk about the situation

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<v Speaker 1>in his part of the world and the you know

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<v Speaker 1>what he thinks is causing it is a guy who

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<v Speaker 1>observes it every day. Steve, how are you, sir? Hi? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I thank you for having me on the show. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's our pleasure. We appreciate you taking the time. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume you're taking the time because you care about

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<v Speaker 1>the neighborhood where you live and work. I'm in the

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<v Speaker 1>center Sacramento. There's a big freeway that cuts through it

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<v Speaker 1>for the w X Freeway, and underneath each of the

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<v Speaker 1>roads there is camp City, right and it's I assume

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a lot of junkies there there is. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is there's four types Congress and as the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are genuinely homeless, and I think the city

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<v Speaker 1>should spend every penny on getting them rehouse. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of mentally ill around here. If we

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<v Speaker 1>call them the monster shouters, that they're like the Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>King Norvel. There's a couple that we know who actually

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on the streets. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be part of society. They love the the nomad life.

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest problem for our area, and that's happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the last year, is it's all drug related. It's

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<v Speaker 1>street drugs. How do you know that? Because the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>that are hanging around now are much younger, and what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is that they'll suddenly become absolutely crazy. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>because they've just taken something that's nice and cheap and cheerful,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're going around, usually causing chaos in the

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<v Speaker 1>local area. And do you think here, I know you've

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<v Speaker 1>said in the past that there's been an increase in

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people are menacing your business and making

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<v Speaker 1>it tough to do business and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your sense of why it's increasing so quickly? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of reasons really. I mean, we've got I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's five thousand, six hundred homeless in Sacramento and that, apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the rules, is increase over the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years. There's there's two things that are happening that's

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<v Speaker 1>making Sacramento a little busier with the home's population. One

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<v Speaker 1>is what they call Greyhounds therapy. The local newspaper reported

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<v Speaker 1>that in Nevada they actually give one way tickets to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the state and come to Sacramento, that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a much better place to get benefits. And then

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<v Speaker 1>another piece of news that I found out was that

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital, a mental hospital in Vegas, over a five

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<v Speaker 1>year period, bust out fifteen hundred people out of Nevada,

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<v Speaker 1>of which a third came to California. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot around in the failure. Wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>is something. Yeah, that's amazing. Steve Sylvester is a Sacramento

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<v Speaker 1>business owner. He was on the news last week when

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<v Speaker 1>I drugged up maniacs smashed a bunch of stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>his antique shop. You're either a city or a state

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<v Speaker 1>that spends your money on shipping homeless out, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>a city or a state that spends money on attracting

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<v Speaker 1>homeless more or less. Yeah, uh, Steve, how often do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to say clean up in front of your store?

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<v Speaker 1>Human waste and that sort of thing. Well, it's Tuesday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's habit. It was a fairly clean day to day,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could open the san Tour without a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But it can be a needle sitting outside which you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go and pick up um and that's not

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<v Speaker 1>too bad. I hate to say the worst thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is the human waste, and that it really is the waste,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part of the day. How often does that

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<v Speaker 1>actually happen? Or you've got human poop on the sidewalk

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you gotta deal with um? Probably about four

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<v Speaker 1>times a week. I've noticed it's cut I know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's cut down a little bit because we used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a mentally ill homeless guy and he used to

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<v Speaker 1>drag around these two waist in containers and he had

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<v Speaker 1>this thing that he had to poop on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Oh boy, yeah, that's a thing. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting thing, like the hood and the top of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>He would he would squat on the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>car and then threw his business down the windshield. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course in the hot Sacramento weather, when you go

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<v Speaker 1>there seven o'clock and out to pick your car up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the last thing you want to do. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to get that detailed, is literally the last thing

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do. So, Steve, would you when you

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<v Speaker 1>appeal to the police for help with this sort of thing? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens? What are you told? Well, here's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that the police are in their own set handcuffs

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<v Speaker 1>because there really is nothing that they can do. Their

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<v Speaker 1>hands are tied. I mean, if someone on the street

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<v Speaker 1>does something that's technically eagle like vandalism when we had

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<v Speaker 1>our shot windows broken, um, then they're going to raish

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<v Speaker 1>someone for vandalism. But if they're just walking around parking

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<v Speaker 1>at the moon, I mean, there's nowhere for them to go,

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<v Speaker 1>so really they just have to move them on and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're not ill. And that's it. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on folks who give to panhandlers, Oh yeah, Well, here

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<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento, as I said, down very near the freeway

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<v Speaker 1>that cuts through the center of the city, but on

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of the store, there's a very long

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<v Speaker 1>road called Broadway. And I mean, I love Sacramento, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love Broadway because it's all of about thirty cyberous restaurants.

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<v Speaker 1>But outside most of the restaurants there will be people

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<v Speaker 1>taking for money, and I do wish people would not

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<v Speaker 1>give them money because the money is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be used by themselves food. It's going to be used

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<v Speaker 1>to get a quick fix. So I s cct from

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<v Speaker 1>outside restaurants, give them some food. They'll probably say no

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<v Speaker 1>because they really want the money. You know, the police

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of areas say the same thing, don't

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<v Speaker 1>give them money. And when the Governor of California, Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>Newsom was the mayor of San Francisco, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>was a campaign he was into do not give money

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<v Speaker 1>to beggars. So I don't know how that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a lefty, he's the compassionate lefty. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how word is not gotten around everybody. Stop giving money

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<v Speaker 1>to beggars. Right, why are you doing that? Right? Beggars

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<v Speaker 1>are not quote unquote the homeless, necessary and necessarily they're beggars. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Um, how long do you plan on sticking it

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<v Speaker 1>out if it gets significantly worse? Are you thinking you're

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<v Speaker 1>relocating or are you committed to where you are? Oh? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm committed. I mean we've been here nineteen years, almost

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you've been on the radio. But we

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<v Speaker 1>have a big store, and we do have lots of

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<v Speaker 1>compassion and we know what the problem is now, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll stick through it. There's there's got to be an answer. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're Oh yeah, I'm a total optimist. My big

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<v Speaker 1>problem is the city's got a bucket load of money

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the homeless problem. And um, what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing at the moment is such a short term quick fix.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not going to work right, well, said, well, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to stay in touch on this, Stephen. And one

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<v Speaker 1>final note, Jack and I began are well. It was

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<v Speaker 1>early in our radio career that we worked in downtown Sacramento,

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<v Speaker 1>not far from where you are, and uh, and ate

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast most days there at the Pancakes Circus, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is very near your business. And I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>I gained ten to fifteen pounds in a year eating

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast there. It's still there and pounds can still be

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<v Speaker 1>put on right on the end of the same block

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<v Speaker 1>pancakes the size of a man hole. All right, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>great to talk to you, and let's stay in touch. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for yout you got it. How do you How

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<v Speaker 1>do you get up on the car? You climb up

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<v Speaker 1>on the bumper, You climb up on crawl up on

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<v Speaker 1>the right. It's a very ritual, the thing he's got

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<v Speaker 1>going on there, because you've got to like start on

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<v Speaker 1>the top and move down the windshield. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he has any interest in like what model it is

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like, look at that Alexis. I've never pooped

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<v Speaker 1>on Alexis before. I don't know. Maybe he's like belligerently

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<v Speaker 1>pro American cars, all Japanese cars, super patriotic, you know. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really not the point of the conversation, not really

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<v Speaker 1>say yeah, it's it's it's unvolivable. Yeah, it's incredible. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to you were mentioning that story earlier where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a state park where the bums have taken over

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<v Speaker 1>in the junkies and and the guys are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can be uh leaninging on some stuff like the

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<v Speaker 1>littering if you just cooperate a little bit. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>we taxpayers, abiding citizens, begging for please don't hurt us.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't ask much of you. Just you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>crapping on the streets and stealing and breaking windows and

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<v Speaker 1>doing drugs. And it's your park now, just don't damage

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<v Speaker 1>it too much. I tell you what. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>why Trump got elected and why he might get re elected,

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<v Speaker 1>he says, making about about Trump slightly the Ninth Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>Court with their bizarrow reeling ruling. Rather, I'm sorry, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading and talking at the same time their bizarro ruling

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<v Speaker 1>where you can't boot somebody out of a park unless

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<v Speaker 1>you can prove the government has provided a bed for them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a junkie, they like doing drugs, they have no

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<v Speaker 1>interest in working like the rest of us. What if

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<v Speaker 1>three more guys decided to become junkies today, that means

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<v Speaker 1>the government has to get three more beds. Ninth Circuit

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<v Speaker 1>Court of Appeals. You're letting the junkies in the bums

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<v Speaker 1>run society. It's not how it works. Life, liberty and

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<v Speaker 1>suit of happiness is the only thing government's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>provide that didn't guarantee you a place to live. No,

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<v Speaker 1>they're supposed to protect your liberties, period, and it certainly

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't guarantee you a place to live in super expensive

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<v Speaker 1>areas of the country. Wha could do judges? Man, that's

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<v Speaker 1>at the root of a lot. Yeah, our text lines

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<v Speaker 1>four five to nine five kft, you know, And I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to do to some of these judges, like to

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<v Speaker 1>climb up on their car where you parked? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're ready to ride metro, we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>know we're ready for you. Here are just a few

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<v Speaker 1>of the people at Metro to tell you how we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing our part to keep riders safe. We're cleaning like

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