Speaker 1: I am all in.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's you. I am all in with Scott Patterson,
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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody listen. Before we get sorted, I want to
Speaker 1: tell you I'm gonna be at Indie Popcorn in Indianapolis, Indiana,
Speaker 1: August twenty five through twenty seven. To come on down.
Speaker 1: Let's have some Gilmour fun. Love seeing you guys, and uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a good time. Okay, let's get started here,
Speaker 1: episode nineteen, season five. But I'm a Gilmore and I
Speaker 1: am joined by my intrepid crew, Danielle Romo, Terra sud Amy, Sugarman,
Speaker 1: who cannot be seen but will be heard.
Speaker 2: I know it's so weird. My mic is working, but
Speaker 2: my camera isn't working. But yet I can see all
Speaker 2: of you, and you all look amazing.
Speaker 1: It is. We're going to have to make some adjustments here,
Speaker 1: but we'll get through it.
Speaker 3: The ironic thing is it's probably the best you've ever sounded.
Speaker 4: Oh so weird is like the voice of God.
Speaker 2: Yeah my God, thank you.
Speaker 1: Well. Anyway, so this is this podcast brought to you
Speaker 1: by our Heart Radio and one eleven Productions. And what
Speaker 1: did everybody think?
Speaker 2: Well, Scott, yes, I have to tell you two things.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Number one, and I apologize that I did not realize
Speaker 2: this last week that was Jared pat Leuki's last episode
Speaker 2: ever in the series until the Movies.
Speaker 1: Last week's episode.
Speaker 2: Last week's episode, and Sory was so grumpy the Diorama one.
Speaker 2: And I feel bad that we didn't give him the proper.
Speaker 1: Shall we give him a big send off today?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because it was sort of like, it's weird. I
Speaker 2: would be disappointed as that being Dean's last appearance except
Speaker 2: for the final scene that he had with you. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, you're You're in Dean Jared's final scene on
Speaker 2: Gilmour Girls until the Movies.
Speaker 1: This is I mean, it's just going to force me
Speaker 1: to redefine my terms. It's shocking and it's wonderful, and
Speaker 1: it's sad and I miss him.
Speaker 5: It is a little sad that there's no Dean or Jess.
Speaker 1: There's gotta be it like that, right.
Speaker 2: You know what it made me do? It made me
Speaker 2: go YouTube that his scene from the movie. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's it.
Speaker 1: So then I went they can't, they can't. These guys
Speaker 1: went off to other shows. Dean was doing. I mean
Speaker 1: Jared was doing Supernatural, my was doing Heroes.
Speaker 2: That's right, two thousand and five.
Speaker 4: I think two thousand and five was when Supernatural started, right,
Speaker 4: it was, that's right.
Speaker 1: So here they got those young and down shows.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a huge success on that.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was like kind of it made me
Speaker 2: a little sad. The other thing that's got me in
Speaker 2: kind of a full panic is that we're in episode
Speaker 2: nineteen of season five.
Speaker 1: Why the panic?
Speaker 2: Though we only have two seasons.
Speaker 1: Left, but we're going to drag it out.
Speaker 2: We're crazy, but too it's just like, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well we've been We've been just nose to grindstone, really
Speaker 1: cranking them out every week. I mean.
Speaker 2: Man, Also, before we begin, shout out to the like
Speaker 2: the people that listen to this podcast are some of
Speaker 2: the funniest people. The comments this week had me dying laughing,
Speaker 2: Like I was laughing out loud. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 2: At one point I was reading it on the body.
Speaker 1: Mm hm, which is where you want to be.
Speaker 2: Why did I admit that it's lucky that the one
Speaker 2: day you can't see me because my face is bright
Speaker 2: red right now? Like, why did I just say.
Speaker 1: That because you are uninhibited, you are care free. You're
Speaker 1: in northern California, hippie. You know, you just let it fly,
Speaker 1: and that's what we love about you.
Speaker 2: True. But I think I'm gonna be quiet now because
Speaker 2: that was embarrassing. You guys, go.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. You cannot
Speaker 1: be silenced. You can't silence yourself. Come on now, anyway,
Speaker 1: what do we think of this episode?
Speaker 2: It was good, It was good, good, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have to say it's a big, fat,
Speaker 1: six hundred foot home run.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of thoughts that we need to we
Speaker 3: need to dissect a lot.
Speaker 5: That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we really need we need to go through this, Amykins,
Speaker 1: We really really need to go through this. But it
Speaker 1: was it was it was.
Speaker 2: Getting ready for a world of hurt. But this episode
Speaker 2: is such a comeback from the week before. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just like and it's so interesting. You know it
Speaker 2: right away You're like, oh, we're back. This is amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah that was uh, thank god. That last episode was brutal,
Speaker 1: hysterically funny episode. This one was.
Speaker 2: When they're all hungover, I know what to do. The synopsis,
Speaker 2: and then Kirk's us Abba zabbas.
Speaker 4: He needs a mars bar.
Speaker 5: All the things.
Speaker 1: For me, those kitchen scenes were the least entertaining for me,
Speaker 1: but the rest of it was great anyway. So let's synopsize.
Speaker 1: I think, Danielle, you're strapping on your synopsizations and tools
Speaker 1: and fly kids.
Speaker 3: All right, this is season five, episode nineteen, but I'm
Speaker 3: a Gilmore Air date April twenty six, two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: Rory realized she is not good at casually dating, so
Speaker 3: she tries to break it off with Logan when he
Speaker 3: decides he'll give the boyfriend thing a try. Loralai needs
Speaker 3: to find a replacement cook. When a pregnant Suki is
Speaker 3: ordered to stay in bed, Paris uses her nanny to
Speaker 3: care for sick Doyle, and Rory goes home with Logan
Speaker 3: to meet the hunts Burghers.
Speaker 2: It was all epic, every single one of those things.
Speaker 2: You just went through, every single storyline, right, I freaking
Speaker 2: love Luke kick cooking in the inn. The Huntsburgers, please,
Speaker 2: They're horrific, but they're a ten out of ten, Fanny
Speaker 2: ten out of ten, Doyle ten out of ten, Logan
Speaker 2: one hundred million out of ten, Like, oh, Scott, what
Speaker 2: did you feel? Overall?
Speaker 1: I told you I thought it was a great episode.
Speaker 1: I laughed, my you know what's off? I mean, it
Speaker 1: was hysterically funny.
Speaker 2: You were particularly good, Like moving around that kitchen could
Speaker 2: not have been easy, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I was very pleased with the performance, and
Speaker 1: especially the scene with Suki when I took the ladle
Speaker 1: away from her, because I thought it was very measured
Speaker 1: and I thought I finally got the style or the
Speaker 1: tone of the show, and it was It wasn't all
Speaker 1: of this anger. It was even It was because the
Speaker 1: anger gets in the way of the humor.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this was funnier because I held back
Speaker 1: on the anger a lot. So I was kind of
Speaker 1: pleased about that.
Speaker 2: Oh that's such an interesting take, because that's true because
Speaker 2: you really did have to like do that right with
Speaker 2: Melissa McCarthy.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the tone right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the ladle grab by the way agree because
Speaker 6: I was like, is there gonna be sauce spilling all
Speaker 6: over that comforters were already making me so nervous, it
Speaker 6: was like, and so that was like a dance.
Speaker 1: You had to kind of really nail that, because if
Speaker 1: I watch you know, Luke rant and he gets angry,
Speaker 1: it's not as funny to me as what I saw
Speaker 1: in this episode because he held back the anger. So
Speaker 1: the Luke rant, you can enjoy the Luke rant. It's
Speaker 1: actually funnier.
Speaker 2: So do you speak fluent Spanish because you nailed Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you nailed your hearts both English and Spanish. Like
Speaker 2: I thought, Oh, I just assumed you spoke fluent Spanish.
Speaker 1: No, my Spanish. I took Spanish in high school. I
Speaker 1: you know, I spent a winter in Dominican and Republic.
Speaker 1: I spent a winter in Puerto Rico. My sister speaks
Speaker 1: fluent Spanish. So yeah, I mean I can get by.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you be good.
Speaker 1: I can go to a Spanish speaking country and get by. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I'm not fluent. I'm not fluent by any means.
Speaker 2: And did they have to coach you? Can you remember
Speaker 2: with all that cooking, because I was wondering that as
Speaker 2: you were sprinkling the parsley, I'm like, is there like
Speaker 2: some chef expert, because that's like a fine dining restaurant
Speaker 2: and you want to make it.
Speaker 1: As I recall, I do believe there was somebody there,
Speaker 1: because I remember asking a lot of questions. Okay, so
Speaker 1: when I'm preparing this, I should be brushing, how should
Speaker 1: I brush the duck and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't terribly complicated, you know. It was just
Speaker 1: sort of a brushing and then a sprinkling and a way.
Speaker 1: I didn't really wasn't that big a deal.
Speaker 2: I think you did it right, though, because I think
Speaker 2: that could take it sideways. I don't know, Danielle tar
Speaker 2: if you guys agree. The kitchen stuff made me think
Speaker 2: that Luke slash Scott was a you know, a Michelin
Speaker 2: star chef.
Speaker 1: However, that's the most important part of the role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to nail that stuff. That's the
Speaker 1: most important stuff.
Speaker 2: I just got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just love that.
Speaker 3: Like Luke is like a fancy chef, like we saw
Speaker 3: that in there Date Night at Home, you know, but
Speaker 3: like he owns a diner.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like this guy can make a duck and like
Speaker 3: make these fancy meals, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: he just wants to serve up some coffee and pancakes
Speaker 3: and stuff, you know.
Speaker 4: Like it's like a nice trick in his back pocket.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm wondering why I never never came out
Speaker 1: with a cookbook.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, in real life, I think I'll come
Speaker 2: out cookbook. It's not too late.
Speaker 1: Let's let's do a cookbook. I want to do a cookbook.
Speaker 2: Hello, we're happy to participate in the I am all
Speaker 2: in cookbook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should do it. Also, man, I got some
Speaker 1: real recipes and I am an actual cook. I mean
Speaker 1: I really do cook a lot. I love cooking, so.
Speaker 3: I can contribute a bomb gloen free banana bread.
Speaker 2: I have one called Ritzy Chicken. Okay, I'm not joking, guys.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's stun I am all in cookbook, great,
Speaker 1: perfect things A good I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 2: But publishers listening give us a ring.
Speaker 1: You know. I think I have uh, I have the
Speaker 1: perfect person loop.
Speaker 2: This all worked out? Good talk. See yeah bye. Okay,
Speaker 2: so back to the beginning. I know this isn't your
Speaker 2: favorite scene. I actually loved this scene with them all
Speaker 2: being hungover and LORIAI coming in with the tacos and
Speaker 2: she says good morning Vietnam, and just like kind of
Speaker 2: realizing Rory was really kind of a mess and they
Speaker 2: were all throwing up and vomiting. The whole thing was
Speaker 2: I just laughed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, didn't get me laughing. It was just it reminded
Speaker 1: me too much of the of the Diorama episode, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh God, more of this, not more
Speaker 1: of this. Please just end the kitchen with the Kirk
Speaker 1: and thing and let's can we do? Let's go. I
Speaker 1: want to get her on another horse and gallop.
Speaker 2: Let's go Kirk with the abbas. Abbas killed me. But
Speaker 2: also you kind of learn she said too much because
Speaker 2: she was babbling about Logan while drunk on the bathroom floor.
Speaker 2: There was some funny jokes about the bathroom floor hasn't
Speaker 2: been cleaned in like one hundred years. And then she
Speaker 2: really doesn't want to talk to her mom about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it ignores it.
Speaker 2: So my question for you guys is does she not
Speaker 2: want to talk to her mom about it because her
Speaker 2: mom is going to be like way too much the
Speaker 2: voice of reason and.
Speaker 5: Rory so I told you so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also Rory is very uh Unrory, Like I
Speaker 2: guess we could say with Logan.
Speaker 1: Oh not sure what you know, give her a break man.
Speaker 1: She just likes the guy. She likes everything about the guy.
Speaker 1: Why can't she be why can't she be all starry eyed? Look,
Speaker 1: you know, she's had to deal with a long line
Speaker 1: of I mean, give me it. Come on. Now she's
Speaker 1: got somebody who might be an actual catch, you know,
Speaker 1: and there might be a real future days.
Speaker 2: I agree. I am cool with it. I think it's
Speaker 2: interesting because I think as we go through this that
Speaker 2: Danielle and Tara may have a contrarian view, but I
Speaker 2: think let her kind of It's it's hard to analyze
Speaker 2: because she's definitely sort of a puppy dog or whatever
Speaker 2: the word is, like letting Logan rule the situation.
Speaker 1: Ish.
Speaker 2: I guess ish it's like she goes to the door
Speaker 2: to tell him she's out. I don't know. Let's break
Speaker 2: it down. So, how happy were you to see Logan
Speaker 2: on that couch?
Speaker 1: Very Actually, I said, yay, now we got a Logan episode.
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool. Now what about that
Speaker 1: music he was listening to? Was that a bit? We
Speaker 1: have to find out what that music was because that
Speaker 1: was very that was strange music. That'd be interesting.
Speaker 4: It was a little off. But I was like, is
Speaker 4: it supposed to be like it's really intelligent listening to
Speaker 4: like this music. That's the vibe I got.
Speaker 1: You know, at least it wasn't Eith p Off or
Speaker 1: Serge Gainesborough or something.
Speaker 2: Also that that place isn't as nice as the place
Speaker 2: he gets later on. I was like surprised. I had
Speaker 2: forgotten that he sort of has that sort of crappy
Speaker 2: dorm room or whatever that is. It wasn't that great.
Speaker 2: And the random roommate that we don't really know. But
Speaker 2: so what did you think when Rory was at the door.
Speaker 1: I thought it great. I thought good for her. She's
Speaker 1: being who she is. She's expressing how she feels and
Speaker 1: she wants. She's not that kind of girl, you know,
Speaker 1: And I like it. I like where you're standing up herself.
Speaker 2: And were you surprised when he said, Okay, fine, I'll
Speaker 2: do it, I'll be your boyfriend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he went through fits and starts to get
Speaker 1: to that point, and I think that was good acting
Speaker 1: on his part. Yeah, because he can't fall easily. He's
Speaker 1: given him And if I'm her and I'm watching him
Speaker 1: do this, you know, this hesitation thing and with her
Speaker 1: sister will come to dinner while we'll talk. You know
Speaker 1: about it, but you know, he's giving himself some runway
Speaker 1: to sort of back out, and that's kind of I
Speaker 1: thought she would have just stopped him and said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I've got my answer. Thanks by so okay,
Speaker 1: what are you hesitating for? You know? But I think
Speaker 1: she's respecting the fact that, you know, he is a
Speaker 1: bit of a bomb vivante.
Speaker 7: Yes.
Speaker 3: The one thing that was annoying for him to say, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: I'll be your boyfriend. He went through like all these
Speaker 3: things of like basically saying, well, you're saying that I
Speaker 3: have to do, you know, like I don't know. He
Speaker 3: was like kind of putting the blame on her for
Speaker 3: his decision, and it's just like just.
Speaker 5: Say no, you know what, I agree, I want to
Speaker 5: be your boyfrien. You know, like he was.
Speaker 3: Just using her words to to basically give an excuse
Speaker 3: as to why he's saying, fine, let's be boyfriend girlfriend.
Speaker 2: And that's what's so fascinating because the unrory like art
Speaker 2: is she's so smitten with him that she pushes back
Speaker 2: for like a hot minute and then she's like okay, great,
Speaker 2: and you can see she's so happy. She was so
Speaker 2: devastated more devastated than ever, thinking she was gonna he
Speaker 2: hadn't called and she's gonna lose him. And she tries
Speaker 2: to be strong and be like you can't do it,
Speaker 2: and he's like, if I say can, I can, I've
Speaker 2: rectified the situation. And he's sort of so logany.
Speaker 3: That how annoying was that I rectified the situation. It's like, bro,
Speaker 3: come on, you rectify anything, like stop like becoming the
Speaker 3: hero in this situation, like it too to you, not.
Speaker 2: To me me, but so like loves him was like
Speaker 2: a level.
Speaker 1: It was pretty insulting to Rory about how he went
Speaker 1: about that because he finds how would he justify it
Speaker 1: to himself? He goes, well, I like to try new things,
Speaker 1: and you know this could be interesting. You know It's
Speaker 1: like what what am I a science experiment over here?
Speaker 2: You know, right?
Speaker 1: And then you know, look at it.
Speaker 4: And then the girl showing up with the door. I
Speaker 4: was just kind of like Rory, like it's not good
Speaker 4: Like for me. I was like, it's he can't change overnight. No,
Speaker 4: even if he does, I'm not saying he can change
Speaker 4: at all. Maybe he can't. Maybe he can, but like
Speaker 4: literally the door opened and it's a girl, and it's like, well,
Speaker 4: there's your answer.
Speaker 3: The phone rings. It's a girl, you know exactly.
Speaker 2: So you're all helping me prove my point that I
Speaker 2: just couldn't express properly is that Rory is being un Rory,
Speaker 2: like she would never sort of put up with all that,
Speaker 2: but she's so into him, and I understand it that
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, she's just so stoked that they're not
Speaker 2: breaking looking up. She's so stoked that she's sort of like,
Speaker 2: will be happy with this kind of candle. I rectify
Speaker 2: the situation and tell that girl I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go buy her ludge.
Speaker 1: Logan Logan smart, good looking, rich, connected aloof that's a
Speaker 1: powerful combination for, you know, nineteen year old to possess.
Speaker 2: What do you think Logan is really feeling.
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely see I think he knows what
Speaker 1: he is. I think he likes that he can have
Speaker 1: anybody he wants. And I don't think he's changing, But
Speaker 1: I think he sees with Rory, he sees the two
Speaker 1: paths that his life could take, and he's choosing he
Speaker 1: wants to. He doesn't want to have to choose, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, doesn't he just wants to
Speaker 1: have a convenient situation with Rory because he knows how
Speaker 1: special she is once to keep her around. I also
Speaker 1: hoping that he gets sick of philandering with all of
Speaker 1: these temporary situations, right, But he can't expect anybody's going
Speaker 1: to wait around. But you know, guys like that, they do,
Speaker 1: they expect people. They string people along for year after
Speaker 1: year after year after year without making any kind of commitment.
Speaker 1: So the only at least Rory's smart enough to you know,
Speaker 1: to put her cards on the table and say, hey, poah,
Speaker 1: you know, blanker, get off the pot.
Speaker 3: But I think he does like the chase of that,
Speaker 3: like in the sense that like he's not one hundred
Speaker 3: percent in control. I mean he's like ninety percent in control,
Speaker 3: but that ten percent where she's like, I can't do
Speaker 3: this anymore, you know.
Speaker 5: Like I think he's not used to that.
Speaker 3: Like I think he's steel like a girl being in
Speaker 3: the wings, waiting, showing up at the door, calling him
Speaker 3: on the phone, doing all that stuff, you know, to
Speaker 3: just waiting on his every move versus she's like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I can't do it.
Speaker 5: So like I think he likes the thrill of that
Speaker 5: and not.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think two things were interesting. One is how
Speaker 2: many girls he has, because one's on the phone, one's
Speaker 2: at the door, she's there. There were He's got a
Speaker 2: lot of ladies. He's sort of dating around with number two.
Speaker 2: She's definitely the winner of the ladies or the girls,
Speaker 2: however you want to say it right, Like, she's the
Speaker 2: He's the most intrigued with her. He likes her the most.
Speaker 2: But he sure was going out to I mean, that
Speaker 2: girl comes to the door and says, I wanted you
Speaker 2: to buy me lunch, Like I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I also think I'll bring it up later. But I
Speaker 4: think the end of the episode made me think why
Speaker 4: he doesn't commit.
Speaker 2: Oh because of his terrible parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't want to bring her into that insanity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's the heir of the throne. I like
Speaker 3: almost threw up in my mouth when he was like that.
Speaker 2: There's so much to discuss when we get to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So let's switch to Paris and Doyle, which I gotta say.
Speaker 4: I love them Like Doyle is kind of rad a
Speaker 4: perfect match for each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that is one wacky couple.
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny when Logan later acknowledges it like
Speaker 2: after the whole you know episode happens at the Huntsburgers,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I just I can't take any more
Speaker 2: crazy and go into your dorm room tonight.
Speaker 1: Like with Paris, it's like, you know, I'd watch that show,
Speaker 1: the Paris and Doyle show. I would watch that show.
Speaker 1: They're so wacky. Yeah, they're so good together that that
Speaker 1: could be its own show.
Speaker 2: And I kind of love Nanny and I love that
Speaker 2: she calls nanny and that she's like going to be
Speaker 2: a medical she's pre med.
Speaker 6: But it doesn't like, can everybody stop saying that, like
Speaker 6: just their whole thing.
Speaker 2: He was a great fake sick actor too. I was like,
Speaker 2: he seems sick. That cough was disgusting. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I just liked that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked that she backed away and said, I
Speaker 1: just I can't do this. I don't but you're but
Speaker 1: you're but you're pre med. I see. Really not the
Speaker 1: point she got the heck out.
Speaker 2: And I was very pleased with Michelle in this episode too,
Speaker 2: because he was quite funny on the phone when she's like, well,
Speaker 2: how is she? And he kind of has that classic
Speaker 2: line like.
Speaker 1: He does ain't no mountain high enough? Come on? That
Speaker 1: was that was the line of the episode, one of them.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that whole thing was just he was really back
Speaker 2: and bringing her into the kitchen and kind of like
Speaker 2: telling Laurli like none of these people do what she does, you.
Speaker 1: Know, But that's that's how he's. Michelle is a dish
Speaker 1: best served on the side, yes, you know. And with Quippi,
Speaker 1: great little lines. He's great. He's not a meal, he's
Speaker 1: but he's great in that supporting role where he comes
Speaker 1: in and just delivers the funny stuff.
Speaker 2: I feel the same way about Kirk. I don't think
Speaker 2: i'd watch a whole Kirk episode. I just meet those
Speaker 2: sprinklings with the Abba Zabbas and the mars bar and
Speaker 2: the whole same with Michelle.
Speaker 4: I just thought, you don't need the full storyline, yeah.
Speaker 2: Just little bits to kind of keep me interested. The
Speaker 2: one thing that I did notice though, is the duck,
Speaker 2: the raw duck. Have you guys watched Poisoned on Netflix? No,
Speaker 2: the raw duck seemed way too close to the other
Speaker 2: food to me, hm, way too close. I was like,
Speaker 2: we're all getting salmonilla.
Speaker 1: Wow, we had no such trepidition.
Speaker 2: Oh. I literally there was a bowl of something red.
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell if it was a bowl of tomatoes
Speaker 2: or raspberries, and it was like literally almost touching that
Speaker 2: raw duck. And I just I all that was going
Speaker 2: through my mind is like, I don't think this is
Speaker 2: on proper cutting boards. I don't think that kitchen was
Speaker 2: run as wonderful as you are, Scott and a wonderful chef.
Speaker 2: That kitchen didn't seem to be following health coats.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I stepped into somebody else's
Speaker 1: situation to save their butt. Don't you dare criticize me.
Speaker 1: Don't you do it?
Speaker 8: But did you put walnuts in the sauce or what
Speaker 8: I put Cashew's walnuts, peanuts anything?
Speaker 1: I damn well place. What was that thing?
Speaker 2: He says in the chanel Chanelle.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what she was talking about. YEA
Speaker 1: straining the sauce and.
Speaker 2: Right anyway, So then very cute Lurlai calls you and
Speaker 2: you say I'll be right there, and just very cute
Speaker 2: mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's him, that's the guy. So then, but it's
Speaker 1: also like it's a great opportunity for him to get
Speaker 1: out of his diner totally and to do some real cooking,
Speaker 1: which I'm sure he was looking forward to doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and take command of that kitchen.
Speaker 5: And really I enjoyed Luke out of the diner.
Speaker 2: Scenes, Yeah, and you very much. That's why I'm like, own,
Speaker 2: did like Luke go to like cooking school or the
Speaker 2: Cordon blue that I missed, because like, you totally know
Speaker 2: what you're doing in there.
Speaker 1: I know duck, Yeah, I know how to do duck.
Speaker 1: No big deal. What did he do before he had?
Speaker 1: Maybe he went to cook.
Speaker 2: He might have gone to cooking school, like.
Speaker 1: Maybe somewhere in Hartford or something.
Speaker 2: Does anyone in this room meaning us, like duck?
Speaker 1: Oh, god, baby, duckling is wonderful. Wonder There was a
Speaker 1: place in New York City I used to go to
Speaker 1: when I lived there almost once a week, and they
Speaker 1: the best Wisconsin duckling. It was just no, oh, it
Speaker 1: was scrumptious.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it sounds very expensive, Like it doesn't feel like
Speaker 7: you're going to like get duck on a you know,
Speaker 7: like the way like I go, And I'm like, at
Speaker 7: the I don't know, in the country mark like duck
Speaker 7: seems so fancy and expensive.
Speaker 3: I've had fault class in Paris and it's just way
Speaker 3: too fatty for me, like, and it's just horrible, horrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, what's the point of living in New
Speaker 1: York if you're not going to go to the great restaurants.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of them.
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Who cares how much it is? It's like, it's great.
Speaker 1: I'm a foodie. It's great food.
Speaker 2: What's that appetizer that's liver that people think is so fancy?
Speaker 2: It's so oh god, the worst, horrible, horrible.
Speaker 5: Dam and snails.
Speaker 3: Oh sure you have to, you got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, it's great stuff, prepared properly and served well.
Speaker 2: So okay, we go back to the dorm room, which
Speaker 2: still I'm still kind of like Logan's dorm room is
Speaker 2: not great. But and there's a girl there and immediately
Speaker 2: Rory's got the face she's super mad because she knows
Speaker 2: deep down too. And then we realized it's Logan's sister.
Speaker 2: And I thought they were adorable.
Speaker 1: I thought they got it really humanized him for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I loved the relationship with a sister. It made me
Speaker 1: want to give Nick a brother. And yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you doing tonight? And it was really great that
Speaker 1: he had that bright, shining light of a sister and
Speaker 1: that she was so good in that scene. And she's
Speaker 1: such a terrific actress, and she had a totally roll
Speaker 1: and she was being engaged and she was excited and
Speaker 1: she really.
Speaker 2: Leans on her baby brother and oh yeah, they really
Speaker 2: have each other's backs. Thought that was super cute. I
Speaker 2: just love them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I also noticed there was like a random photo of
Speaker 2: the Golden gate Bridge in Logan's dorm room, which maybe
Speaker 2: some expert knows why, but I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 1: They probably owned the San Francisco Chronicle.
Speaker 2: Actually good one.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting that she was like, I
Speaker 3: covered you and you sink that yeah, off the coast
Speaker 3: and I got sandrape or whatever it was.
Speaker 5: And it's a call back.
Speaker 2: It's a callback to when we learn from Doyle. I
Speaker 2: thought that was really funny that we learned from Doyle
Speaker 2: about the yacht, and then here we got like three
Speaker 2: more boat things too, because he's like, drive our boat
Speaker 2: fun just not other boats, you know, Like there's a
Speaker 2: lot of callbacks to that. We also learned he had
Speaker 2: a huge crush on a Lissa Milana, which I enjoyed
Speaker 2: so we also start to learn like.
Speaker 1: Uh, when he was a boy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was younger, and and Honor invites by
Speaker 3: sorry to the dinner exactly.
Speaker 2: And we learned that the Huntsburgers are not the nicest.
Speaker 2: The nicest parents on the block is maybe what I'll say.
Speaker 2: They sound stressful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the mother was was was fantastic. She was
Speaker 1: so kind of out of it. And obviously she was
Speaker 1: on some kind of medication that made her space out
Speaker 1: a little bit, but she was so nice. She was
Speaker 1: so phony, nice but saying the most horrible things and
Speaker 1: it was just a really.
Speaker 2: So yeah, she plays that perfectly. But I love Leam Hunley,
Speaker 2: like do you. I don't know if Tara and Danielle did,
Speaker 2: but Scott Liam Hunley to me, I mean, she's done
Speaker 2: so many things. She's like major, Like if you guys
Speaker 2: look at her resume, it's legit. And I think she
Speaker 2: was in Dynasty, Like She's done a ton of things,
Speaker 2: and she plays that character perfectly. Just like you said,
Speaker 2: she does seem a little uh something, and then how
Speaker 2: she's sneaking out to smoke so great, like literal.
Speaker 1: So great. So it's okay, it's so so out of
Speaker 1: it just like I live in this world with this
Speaker 1: man and with all this.
Speaker 2: So okay. One little note in the scene in the
Speaker 2: dorm room with Logan and Rory an Honor, did anybody
Speaker 2: see how cute Rory's outfit and tights were, Like, she's
Speaker 2: so cute with Logan and all put together in the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 5: She was wearing, like what are those called fishnets?
Speaker 2: But she was like, yeah, see you notice too.
Speaker 3: No I didn't notice it. I just like and even
Speaker 3: part of the dinner scene, which we'll get too soon,
Speaker 3: she was she's just so doting on like all of
Speaker 3: these hunts Burgers, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 3: I didn't buy it that much in the sense of
Speaker 3: oh my god, look at the ceiling of your house
Speaker 3: or oh my god, like you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's just like too, like she has.
Speaker 3: That in her right in her blood already. So why
Speaker 3: why is this such a big deal? I guess is
Speaker 3: when I get that.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. They're very rich, but the Huntsburgers
Speaker 2: are a whole level above.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They make the Gilmours look like yeah, I'm like, even
Speaker 2: if you're okay, so say this, even if you have
Speaker 2: a nice house, but you go to like a nicer house,
Speaker 2: You're still gonna be like Wow. Yeah, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have her back on it. I'm not mad at
Speaker 2: her yet. And she's noticing the art.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you can be like wow, beautiful house,
Speaker 3: but like just like oh my god, Like she's like
Speaker 3: as if she's never stepped into a nice house before,
Speaker 3: Like she goes there to a nice house every Friday night.
Speaker 5: Like she has me jaded to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: That place was pretty spectacular.
Speaker 2: I do see what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Though she's a little bit uh, she's too like uh
Speaker 3: like a puppy dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2: Or yeah, what's the word for that. She's a little
Speaker 2: bit un Rory, Like she's a little Scott. How would
Speaker 2: you describe how Rory acts with Logan. It's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not mad at it. It's very deferential to him. What
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 4: It's kind of just like I think she still pictures
Speaker 4: herself like below him, even though her grandparents are Gilmore's.
Speaker 4: Like she even says at the end of the episode,
Speaker 4: like but I'm a Gilmore right, which means something. But like,
Speaker 4: how come when she walked in basically, I think sorry
Speaker 4: to go ahead, No, no, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think she did not expect that though. I think
Speaker 2: she walked in thinking she was going to crush that room,
Speaker 2: like parents freaking love me, I'm gonna nail this. He
Speaker 2: was more nervous than her.
Speaker 1: Right was that was Yeah, they set us up for
Speaker 1: that joke, yes, or that turn of events because she said,
Speaker 1: I got this, I'm used to this. And then she
Speaker 1: goes in and she's gushy, so yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she's sort of like, I know how to
Speaker 2: deal with this, like my mom, you know, basically has
Speaker 2: the same parents as you. And she's making the small
Speaker 2: talk and she's being so charming, and then they gut her.
Speaker 2: They got her.
Speaker 8: It was gnarly, but I thought she handled herself very well,
Speaker 8: totally an obviously uncomfortable situation for everybody else that she
Speaker 8: didn't you know.
Speaker 1: She hadn't figured out yet what the heck was going on,
Speaker 1: so she just was being, you know, a polite and
Speaker 1: little chatty. Wanted to get things get rolling, you know,
Speaker 1: and do you Yeah, I thought she handled her very well.
Speaker 1: She did show that she she had learned from all
Speaker 1: those Friday night dinners.
Speaker 2: You know, do you get the vibe that this show
Speaker 2: wants to convey the uber rich as sort of terrible people,
Speaker 2: because think about this, the are pretty bad. The grandpa
Speaker 2: and Missus Huntsburger are Mister Huntsburger so far doesn't seem
Speaker 2: as bad, but we learn later Christopher's parents were terrible.
Speaker 2: Remember when they come over and start the full brawl
Speaker 2: with the Gilmours. The Gilmours, I love them, love them
Speaker 2: so much, but they're kind of terrible. Like we're learning
Speaker 2: every very rich character of the generation.
Speaker 1: Above Laura Lay But okay, so that so what does
Speaker 1: it take to get that rich if you come from nothing?
Speaker 1: Let's assume Mitcham Huntsburger comes from nothing. He was a
Speaker 1: journalism student, you know, at Northwestern. So he's a smart kid.
Speaker 1: He's an educated he came out of Columbia or something
Speaker 1: like that, right, and he just sort of build up
Speaker 1: as he acquired a newspaper with a group of guys
Speaker 1: his first one, and then you know, he's a natural
Speaker 1: leader and people follow him, and he's decisive and he
Speaker 1: knows how to glean he knows how to measure value
Speaker 1: in companies, and you know, he got an MBA and
Speaker 1: he just started acquiring properties and he got a relationship
Speaker 1: with a bank, and you know, it turns a person
Speaker 1: into a general. You know. They have to Yeah, they
Speaker 1: have to delegate very well to you know, lieutenants and
Speaker 1: sergeants and you know that kind of thing. It's it's
Speaker 1: a lot of stress. It's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 2: Like, I get where you're coming from, and we haven't
Speaker 2: seen the dark side of Mitcham yet.
Speaker 1: But like, wait a minute, if you if you're Christopher's
Speaker 1: dad and you see what your son turned out to be,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be pissed off. Give me a break.
Speaker 2: I just s don't know that. I'd be so gross.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? What are you talking about?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 1: That's your son?
Speaker 2: Okay, but think about this, Scott, think about that.
Speaker 1: So you so you either so you either you know,
Speaker 1: screw them up further by being you know, a d bag,
Speaker 1: or or you you compassionate and you kind of try
Speaker 1: to help them. But these that's not that generation. That's
Speaker 1: they they it's like, what's wrong with you? They think
Speaker 1: there's something wrong to me?
Speaker 2: Ask you this way?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, for fancy rich people, I believe, no matter what
Speaker 2: they're thinking, they would never and Emily and Richard are
Speaker 2: they They don't do this in public. They behave properly.
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit crazy to think that
Speaker 2: the grandpa and missus Huntsberger are going to act like
Speaker 2: that to Rory's face. I'm not saying it was.
Speaker 1: It was a little too direct, right and just like.
Speaker 2: Talking like all that in front of her, like to me,
Speaker 2: those people, but.
Speaker 1: That's the show. But that's the style of the show.
Speaker 1: The show is dialogue. It's words, right. It's not a
Speaker 1: film where they can be subtle about it, right, right.
Speaker 1: They can do it with you know, the nod of
Speaker 1: head or a couple of looks. This is a TV
Speaker 1: show that is that has verbiage, so they have to
Speaker 1: do it with words. So they hit you in the
Speaker 1: face with words, and these characters say the words.
Speaker 2: Well, and without it, we wouldn't have such a magnificent
Speaker 2: scene that we're all going to talk about ad nauseum.
Speaker 2: It just was like, I mean, Danielle Tara, like, are
Speaker 2: you ever going to go to a dinner with your
Speaker 2: boyfriend and the parents are going to act like that?
Speaker 2: Like I can't, that's like what.
Speaker 3: My in laws couldn't be more opposite.
Speaker 4: I feel I would run. I would like, if that's
Speaker 4: what the first date with the boyfriend's parents are, like,
Speaker 4: I would be like, we're I can't do this.
Speaker 3: That's interesting, you know, like in that situation, I would
Speaker 3: the one thing I didn't. And I guess I get
Speaker 3: it because it's like she's in college, like you know,
Speaker 3: it's not like you're a full grown adult and can
Speaker 3: prove yourself. I mean, you can't do that at nineteen
Speaker 3: years old. But she's probably intimidated. But like I wish,
Speaker 3: part of part of me wishes that Rory stood her
Speaker 3: ground and was like, you know what, I am a
Speaker 3: good catch, Like I am awesome. I am a Gilmore
Speaker 3: I you know, although like I wasn't raised you know,
Speaker 3: in this cookie cutter, you know, rich world.
Speaker 5: I am an awesome person.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Like I just wish she just like did something like
Speaker 3: that instead of just having them literally bulldoze her over
Speaker 3: like she was bull dozed, and like, I just wish,
Speaker 3: I don't know, part of me just wishes she just
Speaker 3: like kind of gave him a little zing with being
Speaker 3: a little respectful and walked away, you know, like.
Speaker 2: She just I don't know.
Speaker 4: I also wonder if it would have made a difference
Speaker 4: if they had been boyfriend and girlfriend for a longer
Speaker 4: period of time before meeting the parents, Like, would she
Speaker 4: have stood up with would she have stood up for
Speaker 4: herself if like her and Logan were officially a couple
Speaker 4: for like two three months rather than like two three days.
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't know. I think that would
Speaker 2: have been so awkward if that really happened, that you
Speaker 2: would play it exactly the way they did, because you
Speaker 2: just are like, you know what, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: overstep here. I'm gonna let my boyfriend handle this at
Speaker 2: the end of the day. I'm not related to these
Speaker 2: crazy people.
Speaker 1: And why did they jump all over Rory though that
Speaker 1: was just the first time they'd met her and they
Speaker 1: were just started dating. I mean, so what he brings
Speaker 1: her to dinner to meet the family? To them, that
Speaker 1: was a serious move, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, they feel on that he's never called someone his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: He's marrying this girl he is in college.
Speaker 4: You know, Well, that's what I was gonna say that
Speaker 4: It made me think of him not being able to commit, Like,
Speaker 4: Logan's not the guy to commit, and maybe he knew
Speaker 4: that this deep down, he knew this would happen, like.
Speaker 2: He That's what I'm wondering. What do you guys think
Speaker 2: on that, all of you? Did he know that this
Speaker 2: could go this way? Or was he completely like gobsmacked
Speaker 2: as they say that his parents liked.
Speaker 1: No, No, I think he kind of expected it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he says to himself like Josh is different,
Speaker 3: Like because Rory asked about like why don't they care
Speaker 3: about the guy that doesn't talk speak a word? And
Speaker 3: he's like, because he's not the heir to the family business,
Speaker 3: you know, Like, so he is on a different pedestal
Speaker 3: even within his own family.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Logan did it intentionally to get Rory to
Speaker 1: back off. No, maybe he knew. Maybe he's so diabolical
Speaker 1: in his I get this was a way to create distance,
Speaker 1: like here's here's my getaway plan.
Speaker 2: No, she love me as much. I could believe that
Speaker 2: except for the final scene. No, because he comes back
Speaker 2: and he's so darling, and I mean.
Speaker 1: Look, he could be a master manipulator. Who knows Logan
Speaker 1: way to get her back on the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: on the rotation, right, just add her to the rotation.
Speaker 1: She'll go back into the rotation. After this horrible dinner
Speaker 1: and I want to have to deal with and then
Speaker 1: I can see all the other girls. All I have
Speaker 1: to do is take one of them to dinner and
Speaker 1: it freaks them out and they just go back into
Speaker 1: rotation because I got this every time. Can you you
Speaker 1: think Rory is the first girl to demand a boyfriend girlfriend?
Speaker 2: He's the first one? He said, Yes, that's what he said.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily true.
Speaker 2: No, it's true because I know he might.
Speaker 1: Be I'll tell you he might be a real operator.
Speaker 2: That goes Tara, What was your question that I want
Speaker 2: to ask you?
Speaker 4: So I have a question because may you think about
Speaker 4: it at the end? So the grandfather was the one
Speaker 4: who really brought it up, not even the mom. Do
Speaker 4: you think that Mitcham? Because Mitcham was like what happened?
Speaker 4: Like let me find out? Like he walked in kind
Speaker 4: of just like what's going on? Do you think Mitcham
Speaker 4: knew what the father was going to ask?
Speaker 3: Or do you even said that Logan was like you
Speaker 3: know exactly what happened?
Speaker 4: You think knew that this is what the dinner was
Speaker 4: going to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, Mitcham's a jerk plant pretending to be a good dude.
Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, and we got to talk about the
Speaker 3: last scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look what look at look at the grandfather,
Speaker 1: look at what his dad is so so Mitcham learned
Speaker 1: it from him?
Speaker 2: Is that his dad or her dad? I think it's
Speaker 2: his dad because it's his And the mom is so
Speaker 2: like the reason she's so medicated and smoking is she's
Speaker 2: so like the nerves sold by these people, the nerve girl.
Speaker 1: What happened to what was maybe maybe maybe maybe they
Speaker 1: were talking about Mitcham's wife when they were talking to Rory,
Speaker 1: because this one slipped in and she's not appropriate and
Speaker 1: hell for her and for us, she's not one of us.
Speaker 1: She smokes, she's on medication, she's she's going to therapy.
Speaker 1: You know, she can't handle this and we don't want
Speaker 1: this to happen again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she seems a little stepfordy, like, you know when
Speaker 2: she's like hmm, oh, Emily doesn't know how to throw
Speaker 2: a party, and then she just goes back to like
Speaker 2: frozen face and she's like oh yes, Like first of all,
Speaker 2: they're tight with the hunt with the Gilmours, like Richard
Speaker 2: fully knows logan, so she was so pod like when
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, yes, that's right, you're Emily's grandmother. And
Speaker 2: then you find out they know everything. They know everything
Speaker 2: about Lorli. They're calling out, this isn't just because of
Speaker 2: your mother, and it's just like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: a bunch of I just want to swear.
Speaker 1: She's just trying to get through another night dealing with
Speaker 1: Mitcham's affairs at his office. He knows she knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing back at the office late for dinner. It's like, oh.
Speaker 2: God, let me ask you this. And this is really
Speaker 2: a question to everyone listening for the logan haters, does
Speaker 2: this episode make you hate him less?
Speaker 1: Hmmm?
Speaker 2: It regards to like him to wash because because he
Speaker 2: does the right thing every step of the way. Yes,
Speaker 2: I understand he Hemden had in the beginning, but he
Speaker 2: does say okay, I'm going to be your boyfriend. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do this right. Then he's so cute and wonderful
Speaker 2: with his sister. Then he does take Rory there first
Speaker 2: of all his Porsche.
Speaker 4: By the way, Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I love him so much. I was just like, I
Speaker 2: want to be in that Porsche. I want to be
Speaker 2: at this dinner, even if they bring me a shred.
Speaker 2: I don't care. So then he does the right thing.
Speaker 2: He fully leaves with her. Then yes, he's sort of
Speaker 2: so shook by everything that happened that he goes for
Speaker 2: a walk. But he comes back like criticizing, my guess,
Speaker 2: but like, what did he do? Like he's kind of
Speaker 2: doing the right thing all around here.
Speaker 4: I feel like people will argue that he should have
Speaker 4: known what like Rory was like throwing, right, he was
Speaker 4: throwing Rory like into like the lines that you know.
Speaker 1: She was getting thrown.
Speaker 2: He didn't invite her, his sister invited her. He just
Speaker 2: obviously said yes, come, and he was doing it for
Speaker 2: a sister. His sister asked him to be there to
Speaker 2: help her out.
Speaker 4: So yeah, but I feel like he also could have
Speaker 4: been like, maybe this isn't the time. Like I could
Speaker 4: see both sides.
Speaker 1: I can see him not wanting to reveal what his
Speaker 1: family's really like to because you don't talk down your family.
Speaker 3: Right, But they kind of talked about that on the
Speaker 3: way over, you know, like and she was like, I
Speaker 3: am no stranger to crazy family, Like I got this,
Speaker 3: I do this every Friday, you know, Like he did
Speaker 3: kind of give her a warning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a different level of crazy Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was just you know what I really and
Speaker 1: it was hysterically funny.
Speaker 3: You know what I really need right now is a
Speaker 3: Emily Richard Huntsberger showdown. I need it so bad and
Speaker 3: I hope it's coming up in the next episode.
Speaker 5: Yeah good, it's happening.
Speaker 2: You know, you know, you get something.
Speaker 4: When Emily, sorry not Emily, when Rory tells Richard, like
Speaker 4: you know, Richard's gonna defend Rory until the end of time, right, and.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be so pissed they are going to.
Speaker 1: Be don't don't tell I'm taking the earphones.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. If I didn't know what was going to happen,
Speaker 2: imagine Emily and you're finding out that the Huntsburgers, they're
Speaker 2: alleged friends and I use quotes attacked their grand.
Speaker 5: Ye we all know, and she wasn't good enough.
Speaker 2: Now, if I may, Emily has done that to Jess
Speaker 2: and Dean at Friday Night, and.
Speaker 3: I did want to put I did want to say
Speaker 3: this today. It is really interesting now that you know,
Speaker 3: justin Dean are behind us, their last episodes, you know,
Speaker 3: are over. It is quite interesting that Rory is now
Speaker 3: in their shoes.
Speaker 2: Her like Hi, you know fanciness. She's not fancy enough.
Speaker 2: It's all scales of richiness.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Logan is like Laura Lai and
Speaker 1: he's looking for a star's hollow?
Speaker 4: No, no, too much.
Speaker 2: I like that you're putting that out there, Scott, because
Speaker 2: I like what you're saying. I think he likes that
Speaker 2: she's so smart. That's what I think he's completely because look,
Speaker 2: she's very darling and beautiful, and I know he's attracted
Speaker 2: to her. But the girl knock knocking at the door
Speaker 2: was like a smoke show. So my thing's like he
Speaker 2: is intrigued by her, her personality, her smart, her ping
Speaker 2: pong that she does with him verbally, her you know,
Speaker 2: standing up to him. So I think he likes her.
Speaker 2: He genuinely likes her.
Speaker 3: So I want to take back my comment. I just
Speaker 3: googled that just does come back in season six.
Speaker 2: So ignore that. You thought Jess was gone.
Speaker 5: I thought Jess was done, and you were right with
Speaker 5: what you said.
Speaker 2: He's behind us for now. That's fine.
Speaker 10: Yeah, So okay, let's go back for a minute because
Speaker 10: we do need to talk about Paris and Doyle for
Speaker 10: a second, and the and the Salve salve, salve, the
Speaker 10: homemade sad, and.
Speaker 3: That was literally vix like that's what they were alluding to,
Speaker 3: Like maybe in Mexican, I can say this. My grandma
Speaker 3: put that on me every time I was sick. You
Speaker 3: just get it right on the chest and on the feet,
Speaker 3: and it worked.
Speaker 2: Miracles that Paris sees that Rory stood up and did
Speaker 2: what she needed to do. They stopped being like the
Speaker 2: drunk girls complaining and they're telling these guys what they want,
Speaker 2: and so Paris follows in Rory's footsteps. So I thought
Speaker 2: that was great. I also think Paris has the line
Speaker 2: of the whole episode, which is you landed the whale,
Speaker 2: you'r Anette Benning, like that was amazing, but also something
Speaker 2: to talk about, like you landed the whale, Like everybody
Speaker 2: knows that nobody has been able to tame Logan, and
Speaker 2: at least she's sort of trying. Let's talk about Loral
Speaker 2: and Rory. When Rory goes home to get the dress,
Speaker 2: because we skipped over that, and she says, don't say anything.
Speaker 2: It's like she she knows her mom almost disapproves or
Speaker 2: wants to talk. And Laura's got the pillow over her face.
Speaker 2: What do you all think.
Speaker 3: I think Laura lies letting Rory find her own way
Speaker 3: and is letting her make her own mistakes.
Speaker 2: Scott, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Great scene?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Really great scene? Uh, Laurela, I biting the pillow was funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with Danielle. You know, she's just gotta let
Speaker 1: her make her own way and she's going to make
Speaker 1: some mistakes.
Speaker 2: Well, she's holding she's holding her tongue because Rory asked
Speaker 2: her to. But then when Rory calls her to tell
Speaker 2: her what happened and she finally gets to say her piece,
Speaker 2: And I thought this was a very fast paced scene,
Speaker 2: but it had the most important thing. She's basically saying
Speaker 2: to Rory, like, why are you trying to change this guy?
Speaker 2: Like all the thing that Rory's trying to do and
Speaker 2: think she's achieving and you know, this horrible dinner And
Speaker 2: she's like, but I'm a Gilmore and she says, I'm
Speaker 2: afraid he's gonna bolt. And Laura like, this scene to
Speaker 2: me is the most important in the whole episode. I'm
Speaker 2: afraid he's gonna bolt. Let him bolt. If this guy's
Speaker 2: gonna bail you because of you're only a Gilmore let
Speaker 2: him go, and then she says, like, why are you
Speaker 2: trying to change somebody? And then Rory says, I'm wondering
Speaker 2: what I did wrong. It's so classic.
Speaker 1: She's too young, right, but she's just too young to
Speaker 1: be able to play cards, you know, she's she's too
Speaker 1: young to to bluff like that. She's got to be real,
Speaker 1: you know, you're.
Speaker 2: Right, she's twenty something. She doesn't know. This is such
Speaker 2: a disaster.
Speaker 3: What good advice though, to be honest, but totally if
Speaker 3: he's gonna go, just let him, like, let him, let him.
Speaker 5: I think that was really good advice.
Speaker 1: It's the only move.
Speaker 2: There because she's so whatever the word is and love smitten,
Speaker 2: whatever it is that when he comes to the door,
Speaker 2: and yes, I admit, when Logan comes to the door,
Speaker 2: he says all the right things and she immediately forgets
Speaker 2: how upset she was. And this is like such a
Speaker 2: pattern of like twenty something women that you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: he said sorry, I'm good. Like he's hurt her twice,
Speaker 2: he didn't text her for a week or two. She's
Speaker 2: totally distraught over it. Then she goes to this dinner
Speaker 2: where his parents rip her and she's so devastated again,
Speaker 2: and then he just comes like says a couple of
Speaker 2: magic words.
Speaker 1: Where are they? No, he didn't do that. He apologized.
Speaker 1: He really felt maybe he felt really bad about putting
Speaker 1: her through that he made a bad decision by inviting her.
Speaker 1: He felt terrible about it, and he came back and
Speaker 1: he apologized and he meant it. It seemed like he
Speaker 1: meant it, and he said let's go to dinner. I agree,
Speaker 1: but anything, I thought that was a classy move on
Speaker 1: me too, I thought, And she had every you know,
Speaker 1: what else could she do?
Speaker 2: But you know, like the guy, I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: where I have the question for you, Scott. It's like,
Speaker 2: I agree, he did everything perfect.
Speaker 4: I have no.
Speaker 1: She's a very compassionate person. She must understand the pressure
Speaker 1: that he's under and she's going to help him through it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's maybe one of the main attractions
Speaker 1: that he has for her, that maybe this is the
Speaker 1: one that's going to nurse made me through this right
Speaker 1: experience because I don't know if I'm going to take
Speaker 1: over the family business or if I want to, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be painful, and I need a friend
Speaker 1: to get me through that. And the right partner to
Speaker 1: get me through that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a great point, a really good point that
Speaker 2: he's probably is thinking, this is the person that can
Speaker 2: that I should pick.
Speaker 1: Right on the other because on the other side of
Speaker 1: the upside that when I tell my dad I'm not
Speaker 1: going into the family business, I want to go on
Speaker 1: my own, then Rory's my girl's gonna she's not gonna
Speaker 1: judge me for it.
Speaker 2: And she's sort of right. She's sort of the opposite
Speaker 2: of missus Huntsburger.
Speaker 1: Because every other girl he's dating, once they find out
Speaker 1: he's not taking over the family business, they don't call
Speaker 1: him anymore.
Speaker 2: Does any of you feel though danger Will Robinson like
Speaker 2: this is so potentially bad for Rory and this is
Speaker 2: me who loves Logan more than anything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think going back to what you
Speaker 4: said Amy about like why is she when picking up
Speaker 4: the dress, like she's like, oh, not a word like
Speaker 4: to Laurai, I think she wanted like a I told
Speaker 4: you so moment and Lourai being on the phone when
Speaker 4: Logan comes and her listening and be like did you
Speaker 4: hear that? That was Rory's I told you moment? Like
Speaker 4: I told you he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: Right, what a position to be in? Take her there
Speaker 1: army dynasty or to go off branch out on your own.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just rough. That's why I love this episode
Speaker 2: so much because it's so complicated and like we had
Speaker 2: a fun Luke Lorelai like that all was fun. Luke
Speaker 2: really steps up. He's the perfect boyfriend. They have the
Speaker 2: funny scenes together. They she's making the dirty jokes in
Speaker 2: the kitchen, he's doing the amazing cooking. He saves the
Speaker 2: day's I do actually have a question, though, what's the
Speaker 2: real deal with Sukie and Luke? They're so combative.
Speaker 1: Rifle chefs.
Speaker 4: I think she knows that Luke's a good chef.
Speaker 1: Right, I think she senses how tough yeah he is.
Speaker 3: She's she admits it at the end with the pork
Speaker 3: chops and he's like, I gotta study these.
Speaker 5: They're so dang good.
Speaker 1: Because you know, now you know Luke and Laurlie are together.
Speaker 1: So he's a real threat to her long term employment, right,
Speaker 1: maybe who knows what they're talking about.
Speaker 4: It did stress me out. She didn't figure out her
Speaker 4: back up though, Like when when Laurel I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: did you send the.
Speaker 3: Plan right, I'm doing that right now, two months in advance.
Speaker 1: But is it hard to believe that there's not one
Speaker 1: person that she employs in that kitchen that could handle
Speaker 1: some basic instructions.
Speaker 4: Well, I think.
Speaker 1: Over to somebody and talk them through it. I would
Speaker 1: have solved the whole thing.
Speaker 4: And I think she's a control freak, so she's not
Speaker 4: going to hand it over to anyone.
Speaker 1: And she was handing it over to Laurel I to
Speaker 1: write down instructions, tell who's goo in the in the kitchen,
Speaker 1: how to do things, you know, And in the.
Speaker 2: End, Manny is the one who's going to take over.
Speaker 2: And Manny was like, we could have like what she
Speaker 2: could have been training him for six months, but whatever, right,
Speaker 2: She's Yeah. That being said, I do kind of love
Speaker 2: the scene with you and Jackson because even though essentially
Speaker 2: you're right, Suki's so unhinged and making you doing her
Speaker 2: a solid, and that's what nobody seems to be remembering, like,
Speaker 2: you're doing these people a solid. You left your own
Speaker 2: business in the hands of somebody else to come over
Speaker 2: and cover her ass. You're not being paid, not being
Speaker 2: paid to do that, and you're running a whole kitchen
Speaker 2: and you're freaking exhausted. But Jackson having Suki's back was
Speaker 2: just so cute husbandy that I kind of loved it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though he is totally wrong.
Speaker 4: His wife was like totally, I'm like golf cart back
Speaker 4: home that they stole.
Speaker 2: But wait, Scott, that must have been fun to kind
Speaker 2: of go like at it with Jackson, Like it's that
Speaker 2: was a good scene. We haven't really seen you guys
Speaker 2: do before.
Speaker 1: Well I didn't have to say anything. He just sip
Speaker 1: it all over my neck and left. Yeah, I said, listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I loved it all.
Speaker 2: Like that's the thing. The B story was as good
Speaker 2: as the A story in this, and the C story
Speaker 2: was as good as the A and the B. So
Speaker 2: then we get to the end where I'm just like,
Speaker 2: oh god, ugh, what do we think? Like would you
Speaker 2: take the internship? Like his argument is kind of correct,
Speaker 2: but it's.
Speaker 3: Just he's it's so blatantly obvious that he's doing this
Speaker 3: to put them apart.
Speaker 2: That's what I thought, get her out of town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, it's only a train ride away, right,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like ding ding ding red flags?
Speaker 5: How did she not see them?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: That is where you.
Speaker 3: Know, he's showing his cards.
Speaker 2: Emily, He's crazy like a fox. He's doing all the
Speaker 2: crazy stuff to like get what he wants out of it,
Speaker 2: just like Emily does.
Speaker 4: He's not like break up with me. A little bit
Speaker 4: different from Emily because Emily's like break them up. But
Speaker 4: Mitcham's like, you should go to this internship. It's like
Speaker 4: kind of he's not saying he did.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like almost the equivalent of Emily going
Speaker 3: to Christopher's house and being like, yeah, if you want, yeah.
Speaker 5: You gotta do it now.
Speaker 2: You know, Like the parallels between the Huntsburgers and the
Speaker 2: Gilmours are like bananas, bananas, because I guarantee you Emily
Speaker 2: and Richard are gonna be so pissed about this and
Speaker 2: have absolutely no memory that they did this exact same
Speaker 2: thing many a couple times. And it's just like, oh.
Speaker 4: My god, do you think she considered it at the
Speaker 4: very Like the second time he asked and said, yeah,
Speaker 4: the would you still take an opportunity? What was it
Speaker 4: that he said? Exactly?
Speaker 2: Like basically, even if he's offering it because he feels
Speaker 2: guilty about dinner, so the hell? What?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Who cares? How you got it. It's been handed to you.
Speaker 2: See you Monday bring up.
Speaker 4: But see, that's how he treats Logan like he walked in.
Speaker 4: He's like, I know better than my son being in
Speaker 4: the newsroom like he has this he has a gig
Speaker 4: on the paper, but like he's going to actually be here.
Speaker 4: It's what he does to his own kids.
Speaker 2: They treat Logan like poop. And that's why Logan acts
Speaker 2: out because they it's I don't know how to say it,
Speaker 2: like they assume he's gonna screw it up, so he
Speaker 2: does what Look, Scott, what do you think of mitcham.
Speaker 1: I love him.
Speaker 4: He's a good villain. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: He's such a good actor.
Speaker 2: Is amazing.
Speaker 1: He's just so solid.
Speaker 2: He's in so many good things. He's so good so
Speaker 2: many things.
Speaker 1: And it's just such a great character because it's easy
Speaker 1: to like him and you know you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: like him, and he's just he's just a man. Then
Speaker 1: that's a that's a forceful talent right there.
Speaker 5: I'm excited to see how he plays out in this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am too. I want to see more of him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this whole Huntsburger thing. I want to see
Speaker 1: more of that. That's that's a great show right there
Speaker 1: that I keep thinking, you know, the Gilmore Show or
Speaker 1: the Huntsburgers, they could have spun that up totally.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine, you know, the hat Fields and the
Speaker 2: you know the hat Fields and the McCoy's, you can
Speaker 2: totally have that with the Gilmours and the and the Huntsburgers.
Speaker 1: God, I wonder what I just man, that would have
Speaker 1: been something in that show?
Speaker 2: Do you guys?
Speaker 4: Huh?
Speaker 2: Like, did we cover everything? I feel like it's like
Speaker 2: there's so much to unpack in this episode, but I
Speaker 2: feel like I kind of got there.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we I think we
Speaker 1: did it. The end the Jackson Uh funny scene, funny scene,
Speaker 1: the funny scene melauralized walking by the cart. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: Jack's driving Suki home in the cart.
Speaker 2: You know. I throw a flag on the play. And
Speaker 2: I've mentioned this about the Gilmours before. What's the deal
Speaker 2: with ringing the doorbell at your own house? When Logan
Speaker 2: and or just open it, just open it. You freaking
Speaker 2: live there, And they do it at the Gilmour's too.
Speaker 2: The only time I ever ring my mom's doorbell is
Speaker 2: if the door is locked for some reason and I
Speaker 2: don't have the key, like it's your own house.
Speaker 3: The only thing you can think of is like their
Speaker 3: standard is the maid answers the door and like brings
Speaker 3: you into the foyer and like, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a little more proper.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say if Glory like I, I knock
Speaker 4: on my grandparents' door, like for Rory, but for Logan
Speaker 4: it's different because it's his parents' house, so.
Speaker 2: It's like his house where he grew up. Like Rory
Speaker 2: ringing the doorbell at lower Lies weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed to have that scene with a sister
Speaker 1: before they walked in, so that's how you bring her out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that he could have done a thing like
Speaker 1: oh god, I don't have my kiy shoot after ring
Speaker 1: you know, at least cover it. But you're right to
Speaker 1: throw a flag. You are right to throw a flag. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then my only call out too was I love
Speaker 2: those I don't know what they're called. I always call
Speaker 2: them dragon dogs. They're like dragons slash dogs there and
Speaker 2: they're on top of the fireplace. And I used to
Speaker 2: have one and I dropped it. Yeah, if you watch
Speaker 2: the scene in their house above the fireplace. They have
Speaker 2: these like I'm sure they're not called dragon dogs. They're
Speaker 2: not called that.
Speaker 1: That's just what I said, you know. Listen, Let's go
Speaker 1: back to Rory's gushy nature when she walked into the household. Listen,
Speaker 1: I you know, we've all been in these house types
Speaker 1: of houses before, and I you know, I remember, and
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I wasn't a teenager. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, fifty years old. I know, I was invited
Speaker 1: to a party out in Malibu and a hundred million
Speaker 1: dollar home with Picasso's on the wall and calders hanging
Speaker 1: from the ceiling and Bosquiyachts in the downstairs hallway and
Speaker 1: just blew my mind, right, And I was very gushy
Speaker 1: as a fifty year old. So for her to be
Speaker 1: gushy in that house, I don't think is out of
Speaker 1: line anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you No, I agree with you. And also,
Speaker 2: if you're trying to impress people, right, and you're not
Speaker 2: going to be gushy.
Speaker 1: You want to be a you. You want to you
Speaker 1: want to be positive, you want to be and she
Speaker 1: is and she's there, it's like she like you know her,
Speaker 1: she she played her cards and she won the hand
Speaker 1: and now she's in the house. I mean, she didn't
Speaker 1: expect to be there so fast, right, I love.
Speaker 2: No one offers her a drink and then Logan goes
Speaker 2: to get it, and then she thinks it's alcohol and
Speaker 2: she's all, Logan, I don't think, and he's all, it's club.
Speaker 2: So to Ace, I mean.
Speaker 4: It should have been alcohol.
Speaker 2: She was starting like real nervous.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Does everybody have favorite lines?
Speaker 4: I liked when the Paris I don't your prima like,
Speaker 4: I don't like thick people.
Speaker 2: I also like they say to Paris, everyone's talking about
Speaker 2: throwing up and vomiting, and she's like, can everybody stop
Speaker 2: saying vomiting?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I love that whole mess, with the abbas abbas and
Speaker 2: the tacos and the whole thing.
Speaker 5: Mine was when Paris is or not Paris. Rory Is
Speaker 5: is talking to log and.
Speaker 3: Telling her, telling him that she is not a you know,
Speaker 3: a casual dater, and and he starts asking her questions
Speaker 3: and she's like, I need a taco.
Speaker 9: Hang.
Speaker 1: That was one of the good ones.
Speaker 2: I mean, I still will say, even though I had many,
Speaker 2: in this one, you landed the whale. You're a net betting.
Speaker 2: I mean that was like, oh, also, did you see
Speaker 2: who said it? I can't remember when someone says it
Speaker 2: might have been you. Why don't you go watch Ellen
Speaker 2: dance around?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah in bedroom right.
Speaker 1: So rad Yeah, she's not dancing no more.
Speaker 4: Last couple of seasons she didn't either, so.
Speaker 2: She stopped dancing because we were like bad backers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I used to watch it, just put it on the background.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, she stopped dancing like the last
Speaker 4: three seasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, I love Lamb chops. I just have to say that, Scott.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel bad for the Lambs, but I do.
Speaker 2: I watch poison. I watch Poisoned. You guys, I said it.
Speaker 2: I watched poison and it makes me not want to
Speaker 2: eat again. But it's fine.
Speaker 1: I will well, okay, why do you? Why do you
Speaker 1: watch those things? So good? So I just enjoy our
Speaker 1: lamb and our steak please.
Speaker 2: For sure, God's sake?
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? Oh yeah, what was your favorite line?
Speaker 2: I said it? I said that, but I still say
Speaker 2: that at betting one.
Speaker 1: I like the Michelle lying about ain't no mountain high
Speaker 1: enough in the kitchen.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah all right, So what do we
Speaker 2: give this guys?
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, it's it's go ahead, It's daniel go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: Nine out of ten, Tacos.
Speaker 4: My, nine out of ten, club.
Speaker 2: Sodas, ten out of ten Lamb chops.
Speaker 4: Amy, you should have said abbas, abbas, Oh yeah, got on.
Speaker 1: You don't get a second bite at the ample. She
Speaker 1: committed to Lamb chops. And that's what it shall be. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna give it ten out of ten Mitchem, Huntsbergers, Velasquez.
Speaker 2: Good one, good one. What's next?
Speaker 1: What is next? It's episode twenty, Oh my god. And
Speaker 1: the title is something that's really really interesting if it's
Speaker 1: it's how many crow POGs to cape cod? Oh? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: crow POGs? Is that like as the crow flies?
Speaker 2: I don't know what a crow pog is that?
Speaker 1: You know? All right? So that's season five, episode twenty. God,
Speaker 1: we're almost at the end of season five anyway. That
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