Speaker 1: I love the sounds, the constant buzzing from the stadium,
Speaker 1: the melodic yet off key chanting from the fans, the whistles,
Speaker 1: the rhythmic cadence of announcers calling the place. I feel
Speaker 1: at home with this in the background. Add to that Lavodana.
Speaker 1: I love to see a table with spicy snacks and
Speaker 1: an extra cold beer that spent the last five minutes
Speaker 1: in the freezer. Elksito Las. All of this is football
Speaker 1: to me, soccer and not just any soccer. It's the
Speaker 1: World Cup. Most of my World Cup memories are tied
Speaker 1: to my If I go back to the foggy burst
Speaker 1: of memories of my very early years growing up in Mexico,
Speaker 1: I can see him sitting cross legged on the carpet
Speaker 1: close to the boxy TV, the sound of a soccer
Speaker 1: match in the background, and the smell of his cigarette.
Speaker 1: It was the eighties, okay. After my parents split, my
Speaker 1: dad moved to the United States to Arizona. My little
Speaker 1: sister and I would visit, and in the summer of
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, I remember watching France win the final
Speaker 1: with Sinnadin Sedan, hearing my dad say his name just
Speaker 1: like that. By the last World Cup In twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: I was living in Arizona with a child of my own,
Speaker 1: a toddler. I dressed her up in this cute bootleg
Speaker 1: Mexico jerseys so we could match. I taught her how
Speaker 1: to cheer for Mexico. She was into it. I remember
Speaker 1: my dad letting out one of his squinty Eyeland laughs
Speaker 1: when he watched his granddaughter in uneven picktails, copying us.
Speaker 1: My dad always a sports guy through and through a
Speaker 1: sports watcher, I should say, I'm talking ESPN and Univision
Speaker 1: de Portes, always on TV, knowing all the stats, the
Speaker 1: rankings of tennis players, how the top golfers were trained,
Speaker 1: which baseball team would win it all, and of course
Speaker 1: all things soccer, from small leagues to the national teams.
Speaker 1: I am not that at all, but I kind of
Speaker 1: go nuts every four years when the FIFA Men's World
Speaker 1: Cup erups. I yell at the TV like a backseat coach.
Speaker 1: I make side comments about the hot players. I constantly
Speaker 1: get up, I pace a little, I get real close
Speaker 1: to the screen during peak moments. My dad much quieter,
Speaker 1: with some yais here and there and single collapse for
Speaker 1: at least ninety minutes in a game, the steaks feel
Speaker 1: so damn high. I love the drama under this dull
Speaker 1: roar from the stadium coming through the screen, and those sounds.
Speaker 1: If I close my eyes I can hear them. Up
Speaker 1: until now, they've given me a sense of home, of fun,
Speaker 1: of spending time with my dad. But if I'm really honest,
Speaker 1: I feel uneasy about what they might bring up this summer.
Speaker 1: This will be the first time I'm going to hear
Speaker 1: those sounds without my dad. His void of canyon proportions
Speaker 1: hits me as I prepare to watch the first World
Speaker 1: Cup since his passing. Will it make me miss him more,
Speaker 1: feel his presence closer? I have no idea. What I
Speaker 1: do know is that for so many of us, the
Speaker 1: World Cup in soccer in general, is tied to the
Speaker 1: beautiful and sometimes bittersweet memories of home.
Speaker 2: To me, for what means family, I think my first
Speaker 2: soccer game I went to I was still my mom's womb.
Speaker 3: I love watching them with my mom and my sister.
Speaker 2: It probably my little circles together in Louis.
Speaker 1: I like paging it with my dash.
Speaker 2: I'm a grandpa now, so I'm getting them into good
Speaker 2: training them now that's.
Speaker 1: A little of what we heard when we took our
Speaker 1: mix to the street. And see, when you're a soccer
Speaker 1: lover here in the United States, many times that connection
Speaker 1: is also to another country, like it was for me
Speaker 1: and my dad. We weren't in Mexico with other family
Speaker 1: members when the games were on, but we put on
Speaker 1: our green jerseys and try to make it feel like
Speaker 1: it because this is a place made up of immigrants,
Speaker 1: and so many times soccer is that tied to our roots,
Speaker 1: to our homelands.
Speaker 4: As I grew up back in Lobanon, it was the
Speaker 4: center of everything.
Speaker 1: I'm from Colombia and I feel like it's part of
Speaker 1: my culture and growing up.
Speaker 2: I've grew up in Morocco watching soccer and it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: When I say soccer, I mean for nobody gets that confused.
Speaker 1: And it's also our connection to people from other places
Speaker 1: in the world, whether it's playing a game of pickup
Speaker 1: soccer or watching a match, it's a connecting force.
Speaker 2: Being able to learn about let's say, Cameroonians, you know,
Speaker 2: Nigerians playing with Iraqi's, Afghani's and I'm not Goudoria my friends.
Speaker 1: Being Brazilian is my friend being Colombia and my friend,
Speaker 1: like everybody just collapsed.
Speaker 2: We all come together and we watch the same thing,
Speaker 2: which is football.
Speaker 1: I think Pele, the Brazilian soccer Idol has said it
Speaker 1: best football is the beautiful game.
Speaker 5: The joo is soccer, soccer.
Speaker 1: El juego bonito, the beautiful game that is soccer. And
Speaker 1: this summer, the best male players in the world will
Speaker 1: be entertaining us from the biggest stage at the FIFA
Speaker 1: Men's World Cup. I'll be wearing the Mexico jersey, of course,
Speaker 1: but as I have in the past, I'm also going
Speaker 1: to root for my other favorites if my Mexico is
Speaker 1: out last World Cup. I went to the mall to
Speaker 1: buy an Argentinian jersey at child's large was actually cheaper,
Speaker 1: and since it fits, I went with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: how could I not root for MESSI back then, come on,
Speaker 1: but I also love an underdog, and we get plenty
Speaker 1: of that in this World Championship. Every four years we
Speaker 1: watch as tiny countries can go toe to toe with
Speaker 1: economic superpowers. Uruguay has consistently punched above its weight, even
Speaker 1: though it has a population the size of the state
Speaker 1: of Iowa. In twenty eighteen, I remember rooting for Croatia
Speaker 1: when they won the semi final. Their small framed superstar
Speaker 1: Modric had me googling facts about the Slavic countries. The
Speaker 1: second Scholar Station History top final. That same year, Senegal,
Speaker 1: a relatively poor nation, made it to the World Cup,
Speaker 1: while the US didn't. Cl only the third African saint
Speaker 1: who have reached the quarter finals of a World Cup
Speaker 1: Cameroon in nineteen ninety gone or in twenty ten. With
Speaker 1: the others, and even the US team itself is an underdog.
Speaker 1: It's like the one thing that the US is a
Speaker 1: true underdog at, which is part of the fun of
Speaker 1: rooting for them. Getting to watch these teams compete every
Speaker 1: four years, the giants, the little guys, and those in between.
Speaker 1: It provides an escape from an increasingly tumultuous world. For
Speaker 1: me and for many of you.
Speaker 2: Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking
Speaker 2: me why do I breed?
Speaker 1: Soccer means fun?
Speaker 2: I just love the spirit behind it. The guys are
Speaker 2: young and cute and fat.
Speaker 1: I learn about celebrations, learn about players, memes, songs from
Speaker 1: the crowd, and listen. I'm not blind to the many, many,
Speaker 1: many flaws behind this whole event, the politics, the corruption,
Speaker 1: the human rights violations, the insanely expensive tickets, the scams,
Speaker 1: all the things happening outside of the field. I'm not
Speaker 1: discounting any of that. But once the whistle blows and
Speaker 1: the game starts, none of that can stop me from
Speaker 1: loving what's at the core of the World Cup, the heart,
Speaker 1: the passion for rooting for your team, the soccer. Of
Speaker 1: all the unimportant things, football is the most important. A
Speaker 1: version of this quote has been attributed to everyone from
Speaker 1: Pope John Paul the Second to soccer players and coaches,
Speaker 1: but the sentiment is the same regardless of who says it.
Speaker 1: This thing we love is important simply because we love it.
Speaker 1: From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernande Chavarri and this is American Football,
Speaker 1: a show about soccer culture in the US and it's
Speaker 1: under dog roots. The Men's World Cup is coming to
Speaker 1: our continent and to this country, so we're using this
Speaker 1: huge event to dive deep into what soccer means in
Speaker 1: the United States. We look into its history as an
Speaker 1: immigrant sport and the details are surprising. It is an
Speaker 1: American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though we
Speaker 1: talk to players, the women and men who've been fighting
Speaker 1: to bring you as soccer into the limelight. We were
Speaker 1: tied zero zero with Brazil in the second round and
Speaker 1: I took an elbow to my head which cracked my skull.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from immigrants all across the country for whom
Speaker 1: soccer is a touchstone, but who've also women the sport
Speaker 1: into American culture and life. And of course we're also
Speaker 1: going to talk big cultural moments of this twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six World Cup, the surprise, the fans, the songs, the memes,
Speaker 1: the beautiful game. But first we're going to start with
Speaker 1: a little history. We're going back to the nineties, to
Speaker 1: the very first time that the World Cup came to
Speaker 1: the United States. There was Oprah, there was oj and
Speaker 1: it changed soccer here forever. We'll be right back. This
Speaker 1: is American football. I'm Fernande Chavarri. This summer will be
Speaker 1: the second time the United States gets to host a
Speaker 1: World Cup, so it's worth talking about the first time
Speaker 1: that happened to understand just how far the US has come.
Speaker 1: Back in the late eighties, the US didn't even have
Speaker 1: a soccer league, so it's wild that in the summer
Speaker 1: of nineteen eighty eight, FIFA, the governing body of soccer,
Speaker 1: announced that the nineteen ninety four World Cup would be
Speaker 1: hosted in the United States, a country where soccer wasn't
Speaker 1: really that big at the time. I mean it makes
Speaker 1: sense that the reaction from the world of soccer was
Speaker 1: shall we say mixed.
Speaker 3: I think opinion was divided. I think some people saw
Speaker 3: this as this is the next frontier. There's clearly tremendous
Speaker 3: marketing opportunities, revenues to be derived from this, and that really,
Speaker 3: if we are to be the global sport, we need
Speaker 3: the US on board. But equally there were people who
Speaker 3: were thinking, well, what are they going to do to it?
Speaker 1: This is Jonathan Wilson. Jonathan is a columnist for The
Speaker 1: Guardian and an all around soccer expert.
Speaker 3: I'm a football historian. I've written thirteen books of football history,
Speaker 3: including The Parent of Glory, A History of the World Cup.
Speaker 1: He grew up in Sunderland, a shipbuilding town in the
Speaker 1: northeast of England, and like everyone else he knew, Jonathan
Speaker 1: was obsessed with soccer from a very young age.
Speaker 3: Yeah, went in my first game October eighty two when
Speaker 3: I was six so that's first World Cup. I remember,
Speaker 3: so I turned six during that tournament, and you'd say,
Speaker 3: that's one of the real formative experiences of my life.
Speaker 3: This recognition of football is this vehicle for accessing the world.
Speaker 1: Or at least a good chunk of the world. Because
Speaker 1: back in the eighties and early nineties, the US really
Speaker 1: wasn't part of that global family of soccer players and lovers.
Speaker 1: It had n't competed in the World Cup since the fifties,
Speaker 1: and the country had tried and failed to build a
Speaker 1: successful national soccer league. This was the country fef I
Speaker 1: wanted for the World Cup. People were worried that the
Speaker 1: US would sort of ruin the game for everyone else.
Speaker 3: I mean, I remember, there was all these rumors and
Speaker 3: you never quite knew how seriously to take them, that, Oh,
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be two half, it's gonna be four
Speaker 3: quarters because they have to fit in the ad breaks.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can you imagine a soccer game with
Speaker 1: ad breaks every ten minutes? And that criticism wasn't just
Speaker 1: happening outside of the country. Tom Weir, a columnist for
Speaker 1: USA Today, wrote at the time, quote, Hating soccer is
Speaker 1: more American than apple pie, driving a pickup or spending
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon's channel surfing with the remote control end quote.
Speaker 3: And I think to an extent, it's understandable that if
Speaker 3: you're a fan of American football or basketball, or baseball
Speaker 3: or ice hockey, you don't want this other sport coming
Speaker 3: in and stealing your market share. Of course you're going
Speaker 3: to be opposed to it.
Speaker 1: So what is happening in the US. Is there an
Speaker 1: effort or a push to get more buy in from
Speaker 1: the public before the World Cup? How does the US
Speaker 1: sort of make soccer be more exciting for people?
Speaker 3: There was, but what they did wasn't to try and
Speaker 3: sell the game. They were selling the event, and I
Speaker 3: think that was exactly the right thing to do. They say, look,
Speaker 3: this is this enormous world event. I mean, we've seen
Speaker 3: Johnny and Patina at this time saying this is one
Speaker 3: hundred and four Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: One hundred and four Super Bowls.
Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't language used then, but it was similar.
Speaker 3: This is this enormous global event is coming to your country.
Speaker 3: Go and watch it, even if you're interested in soccer,
Speaker 3: go and watch the fans, go and watch the sort
Speaker 3: of the passion of other people.
Speaker 1: So maybe people here were still on the fence about
Speaker 1: soccer as a sport but an event a show. Now
Speaker 1: that is US of a up Until then, Jonathan says,
Speaker 1: World Cup opening ceremonies were kind of not so.
Speaker 3: Flashy this summing endearing the amateurship at quite a lot
Speaker 3: of it is this sort of school sports day atmosphere
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 1: So the US said, call my beer, We're going to
Speaker 1: turn this into up production and listen, you can't make
Speaker 1: this up. That day, the day of the opening ceremony,
Speaker 1: June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, will also go down in
Speaker 1: history as one of the juiciest moments of the nineties
Speaker 1: in the US.
Speaker 3: For something else, that's the day of BOJ Simpson car
Speaker 3: chase through Los Angeles.
Speaker 5: The vehicle is registered to Al Kling, a former teammate,
Speaker 5: close friend of Oj Simpsons who has been a fugitive
Speaker 5: from justice. Now almost twelve hours.
Speaker 1: The other day, I was watching a documentary called Soccer
Speaker 1: Town USA, and the players were talking about how they
Speaker 1: were literally distracted by the ojchase that night when they
Speaker 1: should have been trying to get in the zone.
Speaker 3: I'm hearing the TV in the crowd on second, Yo, toes,
Speaker 3: what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this was happening, and he kept yelling
Speaker 1: at me, and we got a World Cup game. And
Speaker 1: it's early tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's an absurd day of Americana.
Speaker 2: The opening ceremonies are underway. Let's go now to Soldier Field.
Speaker 1: It's a sweltering afternoon at Soldier Field, the largest sports
Speaker 1: stadium in Chicago, packed to the gills, more than sixty
Speaker 1: thousand spectators on the stands and millions more watching at home.
Speaker 1: The MC of the event none other than Oprah the
Speaker 1: mt SA. Diana Ross sachets into the field in a
Speaker 1: bright red ninety suit, her hair flowing. She's surrounded by
Speaker 1: hundreds of dancers dressed in white, who part like the
Speaker 1: Red Sea. As she sprints down the middle towards the goalkeeper,
Speaker 1: there's a soccer ball waiting for her. All she has
Speaker 1: to do is kick it into the goal.
Speaker 3: And the idea is she kicks a ball into this skull,
Speaker 3: which then will split open and not introduced the next
Speaker 3: phase of the happening so only, but.
Speaker 1: Instead of that triumphant moment, Diana Ross hedges and then
Speaker 1: kicks the ball way to the left missing the goal completely.
Speaker 3: Sure that was supposed to happen, and okay, yeah, she's
Speaker 3: not a professional athlete. I think she just sort of poked.
Speaker 3: It would have been fine, but she takes a cue
Speaker 3: swing at it and sort of drags it wide. The
Speaker 3: goal still split. Outhing goes off, but it just looks fascical.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Oprah fell off the stage and
Speaker 3: damaged your ankle as well.
Speaker 1: That wasn't on camera, so.
Speaker 3: It's sort of shambolic. It's ill omened. It's very funny
Speaker 3: for those of us watching on. And then the game itself,
Speaker 3: the first game of the World Cup, which is Germany
Speaker 3: against Bolivia, is a terrible, terrible game.
Speaker 1: Germany floundered but ultimately beat Bolivia one nil. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the best display of skilly bun.
Speaker 3: I'm watching it now thinking, God, I wish I'd been
Speaker 3: there to write about it. This would have been such
Speaker 3: an easy, funny piece to write.
Speaker 1: But this embarrassing star didn't actually doom the whole tournament.
Speaker 1: For one, it had record attendance.
Speaker 3: The highest average attendance of any World Cup was in
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four. Oh wow, Because the US has the
Speaker 3: normal stadiums, I think probably there's a lot of immigrant
Speaker 3: communities who were going to games. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of traveling support. But you know, ordinary Americans who had
Speaker 3: not previously watched soccer were clearly going because they wanted
Speaker 3: to witness the event.
Speaker 1: But how did it end overall? Was it a good
Speaker 1: World Cup? And what would make it a good World
Speaker 1: Cup if it was?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what makes a good World Cup is
Speaker 3: a great question, And I think it's only partly about
Speaker 3: the quality football played. I think it's more about the storylines.
Speaker 1: It's about the storylines. And the nineteen ninety four World
Speaker 1: Cup here in the US also had some good drama.
Speaker 1: Argentinian superstar Diego Maradona had just returned from a drug
Speaker 1: band to play that tournament.
Speaker 3: Then the second game is against Nigeria, he's taken off
Speaker 3: of the random drugs test.
Speaker 1: At the end, once the game was over, a nurse
Speaker 1: walked into the field and escorted Maradona out to get
Speaker 1: a doping test.
Speaker 3: And it's a really heient image. They walk off hand
Speaker 3: in hand and she's wearing this sort of white uniform
Speaker 3: with sort of green crosses on it, and of course
Speaker 3: he fails to drugs test. Bulls the analysis of the
Speaker 3: urine sample have proved it to be positive, and he
Speaker 3: never plays vargentaintum again.
Speaker 1: Another example of the drama of this World Cup was
Speaker 1: the tragic victory of the US over Colombia after Colombian
Speaker 1: defender and Risiscobard kicked the ball into his own team's.
Speaker 4: Netted dr own girl the USA that's the school ascoball
Speaker 4: on the own goal and the United States breaks Columbia.
Speaker 1: Shortly after he returned to Colombia, he was shot to death,
Speaker 1: and there's still dispute over whether it was really about
Speaker 1: this mistake. But there were moments of triumph as well.
Speaker 1: Nigeria played their first ever World Cup and even though
Speaker 1: they didn't make it far, Jonathan says it was a
Speaker 1: debut to.
Speaker 2: Remember the.
Speaker 3: First goal that Rashita Buchini scores against Bulgaria and the
Speaker 3: group and his celebrations sort of yeah, clutching the net
Speaker 3: to its face one of the great iconic celebrations. And
Speaker 3: that was a great Nigeria team to wash and they
Speaker 3: went on to win the Olympic gold two years later.
Speaker 3: So there was loads of great stories. There was loads
Speaker 3: of great football played the beginning and the end weren't great,
Speaker 3: but the stuff in between.
Speaker 1: Was really good. That's my thing right there, the stories,
Speaker 1: the drama, the in between. I love hearing Jonathan say
Speaker 1: that that's what makes a World Cup great, and it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder what the story of this Summer's World
Speaker 1: Cup will be more after the break. This is American football.
Speaker 1: I'm Fernande Charity. By and large, the nineteen ninety four
Speaker 1: World Cup is credited with bringing back soccer to the
Speaker 1: United States. Two years after the tournament, in nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 1: the US gave birth to Major League Soccer. Obviously, we
Speaker 1: know that the US women's team has the most wins
Speaker 1: since the Women's World Cup started in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: They are the winning team.
Speaker 4: The goal, the woman they fed most of the air,
Speaker 4: has given the USA the league.
Speaker 1: And this year, with the World Cup at home the men,
Speaker 1: they'll have another chance to prove themselves on their home
Speaker 1: turf and the home audience is watching.
Speaker 5: The reason that we're decked out in this red, white
Speaker 5: and blue reppin for USA is for this reason. The
Speaker 5: exclusive reveal of the twenty twenty six US Soccer World
Speaker 5: Cup uniform.
Speaker 1: Here. They are the most watched, the most followed event
Speaker 1: worldwide is going to be played here in the US,
Speaker 1: in Mexico and Canada, and this tournament is already primed
Speaker 1: for good stories. There's so many countries who fought so
Speaker 1: hot to get here, like Kati, deep in a humanitarian crisis,
Speaker 1: with security at an all time low, gangs ruled the country,
Speaker 1: and yet they qualified to play this year, making an
Speaker 1: appearance for the first time since nineteen seventy four. Iraq
Speaker 1: is also competing for the first time in forty years.
Speaker 1: There's going to be eight Arab nations playing, a record
Speaker 1: Ivery Coast and Senegal are set to compete, even though
Speaker 1: the US government put a visa ban on both of
Speaker 1: those countries. These stories also make it impossible to deny
Speaker 1: that the World Cup is coming back to a very
Speaker 1: different United States thirty two years later.
Speaker 3: I think this is a World Cup that people are
Speaker 3: approaching in trepidation because we don't know what's going to
Speaker 3: happen with Iran. It's the twenty third World Cup, the
Speaker 3: previous twenty two. The attitude of the House has always been,
Speaker 3: please come to our country, look at how gred it is,
Speaker 3: and go home. Tell everybody, by and large, that has
Speaker 3: been the attitude of hosts. You look back, even Mussolani
Speaker 3: in nineteen thirty four subsidized travel for foreign fans because
Speaker 3: you wanted people to come and see his Italy and
Speaker 3: how efficient and beautiful and effective it was.
Speaker 1: That's not the case today. The US is overly hostile
Speaker 1: to foreigners.
Speaker 3: Well, four qualified nations on the visa band lists, others
Speaker 3: on a soft block list. It's going to be a
Speaker 3: difficult tournament from that point of view, in a way
Speaker 3: that other tournaments haven't been.
Speaker 1: All of this will most likely become part of this
Speaker 1: World Cup story, visa bands, ice, raids, war. Still, none
Speaker 1: of that can take away from how deeply diverse of
Speaker 1: a country we are, and that diversity will be on
Speaker 1: display at this World Cup. As Americans wave they are
Speaker 1: many flags even before planes arrived from abroad. There will
Speaker 1: be a base of fans from all over the world
Speaker 1: ready to cheer for their roots. Call me hopeful, but
Speaker 1: I think that you will rally. I mean it is football,
Speaker 1: after all. Who do I root for the World Cup? Well?
Speaker 2: USA, always, always USA. I like the German team Moncle
Speaker 2: first and the USA obviously second.
Speaker 1: I would go with United States or Port Chico, Oh
Speaker 1: Mexico percent because I'm from there, my second church of Spain.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go ahead and say I just root
Speaker 1: for the Ecuadorian national team.
Speaker 2: Oh USA, USA Nigerian blood roots, of course, but USA.
Speaker 1: All the time.
Speaker 2: I would say Haiti because I was born there, but
Speaker 2: I had a chance to live in Brazil shortly. And
Speaker 2: actually one of the game that I'm absolutely going to
Speaker 2: be devastated to watch is while against Haiti.
Speaker 1: But I would say I routed a lot for England
Speaker 1: because obviously I'm half British Columbia.
Speaker 2: I like the Combia Mence team, not England, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Hey for.
Speaker 2: I don't know Mexico, but truly the US because you know,
Speaker 2: I've been raised here.
Speaker 5: It's a complicated time to be a US soccer fan.
Speaker 4: I feel like part of me wants to root for
Speaker 4: the United States, even though politically I have some complications here.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean we shouldn't root for our guys here.
Speaker 2: I'll root for Mexico, and if Mexico doesn't too great,
Speaker 2: then our root for USA.
Speaker 1: Viva Mexico. So join me every week for gripping and
Speaker 1: dramatic stories from past and present about the game we
Speaker 1: love and the people who love it. American Football is
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