WEBVTT - The Game We Love

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<v Speaker 1>I love the sounds, the constant buzzing from the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>the melodic yet off key chanting from the fans, the whistles,

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<v Speaker 1>the rhythmic cadence of announcers calling the place. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>at home with this in the background. Add to that Lavodana.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see a table with spicy snacks and

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<v Speaker 1>an extra cold beer that spent the last five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>in the freezer. Elksito Las. All of this is football

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<v Speaker 1>to me, soccer and not just any soccer. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup. Most of my World Cup memories are tied

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<v Speaker 1>to my If I go back to the foggy burst

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<v Speaker 1>of memories of my very early years growing up in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see him sitting cross legged on the carpet

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<v Speaker 1>close to the boxy TV, the sound of a soccer

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<v Speaker 1>match in the background, and the smell of his cigarette.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the eighties, okay. After my parents split, my

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<v Speaker 1>dad moved to the United States to Arizona. My little

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<v Speaker 1>sister and I would visit, and in the summer of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety eight, I remember watching France win the final

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<v Speaker 1>with Sinnadin Sedan, hearing my dad say his name just

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<v Speaker 1>like that. By the last World Cup In twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>I was living in Arizona with a child of my own,

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<v Speaker 1>a toddler. I dressed her up in this cute bootleg

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico jerseys so we could match. I taught her how

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<v Speaker 1>to cheer for Mexico. She was into it. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>my dad letting out one of his squinty Eyeland laughs

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<v Speaker 1>when he watched his granddaughter in uneven picktails, copying us.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad always a sports guy through and through a

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<v Speaker 1>sports watcher, I should say, I'm talking ESPN and Univision

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<v Speaker 1>de Portes, always on TV, knowing all the stats, the

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<v Speaker 1>rankings of tennis players, how the top golfers were trained,

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<v Speaker 1>which baseball team would win it all, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>all things soccer, from small leagues to the national teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not that at all, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go nuts every four years when the FIFA Men's World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup erups. I yell at the TV like a backseat coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I make side comments about the hot players. I constantly

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<v Speaker 1>get up, I pace a little, I get real close

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<v Speaker 1>to the screen during peak moments. My dad much quieter,

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<v Speaker 1>with some yais here and there and single collapse for

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<v Speaker 1>at least ninety minutes in a game, the steaks feel

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<v Speaker 1>so damn high. I love the drama under this dull

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<v Speaker 1>roar from the stadium coming through the screen, and those sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>If I close my eyes I can hear them. Up

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<v Speaker 1>until now, they've given me a sense of home, of fun,

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<v Speaker 1>of spending time with my dad. But if I'm really honest,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel uneasy about what they might bring up this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be the first time I'm going to hear

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<v Speaker 1>those sounds without my dad. His void of canyon proportions

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<v Speaker 1>hits me as I prepare to watch the first World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup since his passing. Will it make me miss him more,

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<v Speaker 1>feel his presence closer? I have no idea. What I

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<v Speaker 1>do know is that for so many of us, the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup in soccer in general, is tied to the

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful and sometimes bittersweet memories of home.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, for what means family, I think my first

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<v Speaker 2>soccer game I went to I was still my mom's womb.

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<v Speaker 3>I love watching them with my mom and my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>It probably my little circles together in Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>I like paging it with my dash.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a grandpa now, so I'm getting them into good

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<v Speaker 2>training them now that's.

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<v Speaker 1>A little of what we heard when we took our

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<v Speaker 1>mix to the street. And see, when you're a soccer

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<v Speaker 1>lover here in the United States, many times that connection

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<v Speaker 1>is also to another country, like it was for me

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<v Speaker 1>and my dad. We weren't in Mexico with other family

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<v Speaker 1>members when the games were on, but we put on

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<v Speaker 1>our green jerseys and try to make it feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it because this is a place made up of immigrants,

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<v Speaker 1>and so many times soccer is that tied to our roots,

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<v Speaker 1>to our homelands.

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<v Speaker 4>As I grew up back in Lobanon, it was the

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<v Speaker 4>center of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm from Colombia and I feel like it's part of

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<v Speaker 1>my culture and growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>I've grew up in Morocco watching soccer and it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say soccer, I mean for nobody gets that confused.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's also our connection to people from other places

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, whether it's playing a game of pickup

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<v Speaker 1>soccer or watching a match, it's a connecting force.

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<v Speaker 2>Being able to learn about let's say, Cameroonians, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Nigerians playing with Iraqi's, Afghani's and I'm not Goudoria my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Being Brazilian is my friend being Colombia and my friend,

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<v Speaker 1>like everybody just collapsed.

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<v Speaker 2>We all come together and we watch the same thing,

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<v Speaker 2>which is football.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Pele, the Brazilian soccer Idol has said it

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<v Speaker 1>best football is the beautiful game.

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<v Speaker 5>The joo is soccer, soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>El juego bonito, the beautiful game that is soccer. And

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<v Speaker 1>this summer, the best male players in the world will

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<v Speaker 1>be entertaining us from the biggest stage at the FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>Men's World Cup. I'll be wearing the Mexico jersey, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>but as I have in the past, I'm also going

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<v Speaker 1>to root for my other favorites if my Mexico is

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<v Speaker 1>out last World Cup. I went to the mall to

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<v Speaker 1>buy an Argentinian jersey at child's large was actually cheaper,

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<v Speaker 1>and since it fits, I went with that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how could I not root for MESSI back then, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also love an underdog, and we get plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of that in this World Championship. Every four years we

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<v Speaker 1>watch as tiny countries can go toe to toe with

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<v Speaker 1>economic superpowers. Uruguay has consistently punched above its weight, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it has a population the size of the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Iowa. In twenty eighteen, I remember rooting for Croatia

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<v Speaker 1>when they won the semi final. Their small framed superstar

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<v Speaker 1>Modric had me googling facts about the Slavic countries. The

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<v Speaker 1>second Scholar Station History top final. That same year, Senegal,

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively poor nation, made it to the World Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>while the US didn't. Cl only the third African saint

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<v Speaker 1>who have reached the quarter finals of a World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>Cameroon in nineteen ninety gone or in twenty ten. With

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<v Speaker 1>the others, and even the US team itself is an underdog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the one thing that the US is a

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<v Speaker 1>true underdog at, which is part of the fun of

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<v Speaker 1>rooting for them. Getting to watch these teams compete every

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<v Speaker 1>four years, the giants, the little guys, and those in between.

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<v Speaker 1>It provides an escape from an increasingly tumultuous world. For

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<v Speaker 1>me and for many of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do I watch the World Cup? That's like asking

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<v Speaker 2>me why do I breed?

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer means fun?

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<v Speaker 2>I just love the spirit behind it. The guys are

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<v Speaker 2>young and cute and fat.

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<v Speaker 1>I learn about celebrations, learn about players, memes, songs from

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd, and listen. I'm not blind to the many, many,

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<v Speaker 1>many flaws behind this whole event, the politics, the corruption,

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<v Speaker 1>the human rights violations, the insanely expensive tickets, the scams,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things happening outside of the field. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>discounting any of that. But once the whistle blows and

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<v Speaker 1>the game starts, none of that can stop me from

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<v Speaker 1>loving what's at the core of the World Cup, the heart,

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<v Speaker 1>the passion for rooting for your team, the soccer. Of

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<v Speaker 1>all the unimportant things, football is the most important. A

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<v Speaker 1>version of this quote has been attributed to everyone from

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<v Speaker 1>Pope John Paul the Second to soccer players and coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>but the sentiment is the same regardless of who says it.

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<v Speaker 1>This thing we love is important simply because we love it.

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<v Speaker 1>From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernande Chavarri and this is American Football,

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<v Speaker 1>a show about soccer culture in the US and it's

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<v Speaker 1>under dog roots. The Men's World Cup is coming to

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<v Speaker 1>our continent and to this country, so we're using this

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<v Speaker 1>huge event to dive deep into what soccer means in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. We look into its history as an

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<v Speaker 1>immigrant sport and the details are surprising. It is an

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<v Speaker 1>American game. The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though we

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<v Speaker 1>talk to players, the women and men who've been fighting

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<v Speaker 1>to bring you as soccer into the limelight. We were

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<v Speaker 1>tied zero zero with Brazil in the second round and

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<v Speaker 1>I took an elbow to my head which cracked my skull.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll hear from immigrants all across the country for whom

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<v Speaker 1>soccer is a touchstone, but who've also women the sport

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<v Speaker 1>into American culture and life. And of course we're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk big cultural moments of this twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six World Cup, the surprise, the fans, the songs, the memes,

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful game. But first we're going to start with

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<v Speaker 1>a little history. We're going back to the nineties, to

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<v Speaker 1>the very first time that the World Cup came to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. There was Oprah, there was oj and

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<v Speaker 1>it changed soccer here forever. We'll be right back. This

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<v Speaker 1>is American football. I'm Fernande Chavarri. This summer will be

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<v Speaker 1>the second time the United States gets to host a

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup, so it's worth talking about the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to understand just how far the US has come.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the late eighties, the US didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>a soccer league, so it's wild that in the summer

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty eight, FIFA, the governing body of soccer,

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<v Speaker 1>announced that the nineteen ninety four World Cup would be

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<v Speaker 1>hosted in the United States, a country where soccer wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really that big at the time. I mean it makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense that the reaction from the world of soccer was

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<v Speaker 1>shall we say mixed.

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<v Speaker 3>I think opinion was divided. I think some people saw

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<v Speaker 3>this as this is the next frontier. There's clearly tremendous

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<v Speaker 3>marketing opportunities, revenues to be derived from this, and that really,

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<v Speaker 3>if we are to be the global sport, we need

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<v Speaker 3>the US on board. But equally there were people who

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<v Speaker 3>were thinking, well, what are they going to do to it?

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jonathan Wilson. Jonathan is a columnist for The

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<v Speaker 1>Guardian and an all around soccer expert.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a football historian. I've written thirteen books of football history,

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<v Speaker 3>including The Parent of Glory, A History of the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>He grew up in Sunderland, a shipbuilding town in the

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<v Speaker 1>northeast of England, and like everyone else he knew, Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with soccer from a very young age.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, went in my first game October eighty two when

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<v Speaker 3>I was six so that's first World Cup. I remember,

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<v Speaker 3>so I turned six during that tournament, and you'd say,

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<v Speaker 3>that's one of the real formative experiences of my life.

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<v Speaker 3>This recognition of football is this vehicle for accessing the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Or at least a good chunk of the world. Because

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<v Speaker 1>back in the eighties and early nineties, the US really

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't part of that global family of soccer players and lovers.

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<v Speaker 1>It had n't competed in the World Cup since the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>and the country had tried and failed to build a

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<v Speaker 1>successful national soccer league. This was the country fef I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted for the World Cup. People were worried that the

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<v Speaker 1>US would sort of ruin the game for everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I remember, there was all these rumors and

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<v Speaker 3>you never quite knew how seriously to take them, that, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna be two half, it's gonna be four

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<v Speaker 3>quarters because they have to fit in the ad breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, can you imagine a soccer game with

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<v Speaker 1>ad breaks every ten minutes? And that criticism wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>happening outside of the country. Tom Weir, a columnist for

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<v Speaker 1>USA Today, wrote at the time, quote, Hating soccer is

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<v Speaker 1>more American than apple pie, driving a pickup or spending

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday afternoon's channel surfing with the remote control end quote.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think to an extent, it's understandable that if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a fan of American football or basketball, or baseball

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<v Speaker 3>or ice hockey, you don't want this other sport coming

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<v Speaker 3>in and stealing your market share. Of course you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be opposed to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So what is happening in the US. Is there an

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<v Speaker 1>effort or a push to get more buy in from

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<v Speaker 1>the public before the World Cup? How does the US

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<v Speaker 1>sort of make soccer be more exciting for people?

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<v Speaker 3>There was, but what they did wasn't to try and

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<v Speaker 3>sell the game. They were selling the event, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that was exactly the right thing to do. They say, look,

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<v Speaker 3>this is this enormous world event. I mean, we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>Johnny and Patina at this time saying this is one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and four Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred and four Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that wasn't language used then, but it was similar.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this enormous global event is coming to your country.

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<v Speaker 3>Go and watch it, even if you're interested in soccer,

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<v Speaker 3>go and watch the fans, go and watch the sort

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<v Speaker 3>of the passion of other people.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe people here were still on the fence about

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<v Speaker 1>soccer as a sport but an event a show. Now

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<v Speaker 1>that is US of a up Until then, Jonathan says,

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup opening ceremonies were kind of not so.

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<v Speaker 3>Flashy this summing endearing the amateurship at quite a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of it is this sort of school sports day atmosphere

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<v Speaker 3>to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the US said, call my beer, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>turn this into up production and listen, you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>this up. That day, the day of the opening ceremony,

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<v Speaker 1>June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, will also go down in

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<v Speaker 1>history as one of the juiciest moments of the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>For something else, that's the day of BOJ Simpson car

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<v Speaker 3>chase through Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 5>The vehicle is registered to Al Kling, a former teammate,

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<v Speaker 5>close friend of Oj Simpsons who has been a fugitive

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<v Speaker 5>from justice. Now almost twelve hours.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day, I was watching a documentary called Soccer

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<v Speaker 1>Town USA, and the players were talking about how they

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<v Speaker 1>were literally distracted by the ojchase that night when they

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<v Speaker 1>should have been trying to get in the zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hearing the TV in the crowd on second, Yo, toes,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe this was happening, and he kept yelling

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<v Speaker 1>at me, and we got a World Cup game. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's early tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, it's an absurd day of Americana.

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<v Speaker 2>The opening ceremonies are underway. Let's go now to Soldier Field.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a sweltering afternoon at Soldier Field, the largest sports

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<v Speaker 1>stadium in Chicago, packed to the gills, more than sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand spectators on the stands and millions more watching at home.

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<v Speaker 1>The MC of the event none other than Oprah the

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<v Speaker 1>mt SA. Diana Ross sachets into the field in a

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<v Speaker 1>bright red ninety suit, her hair flowing. She's surrounded by

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of dancers dressed in white, who part like the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sea. As she sprints down the middle towards the goalkeeper,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a soccer ball waiting for her. All she has

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<v Speaker 1>to do is kick it into the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>And the idea is she kicks a ball into this skull,

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<v Speaker 3>which then will split open and not introduced the next

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<v Speaker 3>phase of the happening so only, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of that triumphant moment, Diana Ross hedges and then

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<v Speaker 1>kicks the ball way to the left missing the goal completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure that was supposed to happen, and okay, yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 3>not a professional athlete. I think she just sort of poked.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have been fine, but she takes a cue

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<v Speaker 3>swing at it and sort of drags it wide. The

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<v Speaker 3>goal still split. Outhing goes off, but it just looks fascical.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think Oprah fell off the stage and

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<v Speaker 3>damaged your ankle as well.

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<v Speaker 1>That wasn't on camera, so.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of shambolic. It's ill omened. It's very funny

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<v Speaker 3>for those of us watching on. And then the game itself,

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<v Speaker 3>the first game of the World Cup, which is Germany

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<v Speaker 3>against Bolivia, is a terrible, terrible game.

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<v Speaker 1>Germany floundered but ultimately beat Bolivia one nil. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the best display of skilly bun.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm watching it now thinking, God, I wish I'd been

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<v Speaker 3>there to write about it. This would have been such

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<v Speaker 3>an easy, funny piece to write.

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<v Speaker 1>But this embarrassing star didn't actually doom the whole tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>For one, it had record attendance.

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<v Speaker 3>The highest average attendance of any World Cup was in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four. Oh wow, Because the US has the

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<v Speaker 3>normal stadiums, I think probably there's a lot of immigrant

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<v Speaker 3>communities who were going to games. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of traveling support. But you know, ordinary Americans who had

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<v Speaker 3>not previously watched soccer were clearly going because they wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to witness the event.

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<v Speaker 1>But how did it end overall? Was it a good

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup? And what would make it a good World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup if it was?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's what makes a good World Cup is

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<v Speaker 3>a great question, And I think it's only partly about

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<v Speaker 3>the quality football played. I think it's more about the storylines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about the storylines. And the nineteen ninety four World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup here in the US also had some good drama.

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<v Speaker 1>Argentinian superstar Diego Maradona had just returned from a drug

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<v Speaker 1>band to play that tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Then the second game is against Nigeria, he's taken off

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<v Speaker 3>of the random drugs test.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end, once the game was over, a nurse

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<v Speaker 1>walked into the field and escorted Maradona out to get

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<v Speaker 1>a doping test.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a really heient image. They walk off hand

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<v Speaker 3>in hand and she's wearing this sort of white uniform

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<v Speaker 3>with sort of green crosses on it, and of course

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<v Speaker 3>he fails to drugs test. Bulls the analysis of the

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<v Speaker 3>urine sample have proved it to be positive, and he

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<v Speaker 3>never plays vargentaintum again.

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<v Speaker 1>Another example of the drama of this World Cup was

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<v Speaker 1>the tragic victory of the US over Colombia after Colombian

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<v Speaker 1>defender and Risiscobard kicked the ball into his own team's.

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<v Speaker 4>Netted dr own girl the USA that's the school ascoball

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<v Speaker 4>on the own goal and the United States breaks Columbia.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly after he returned to Colombia, he was shot to death,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's still dispute over whether it was really about

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<v Speaker 1>this mistake. But there were moments of triumph as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigeria played their first ever World Cup and even though

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't make it far, Jonathan says it was a

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<v Speaker 1>debut to.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember the.

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<v Speaker 3>First goal that Rashita Buchini scores against Bulgaria and the

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<v Speaker 3>group and his celebrations sort of yeah, clutching the net

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<v Speaker 3>to its face one of the great iconic celebrations. And

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<v Speaker 3>that was a great Nigeria team to wash and they

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<v Speaker 3>went on to win the Olympic gold two years later.

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<v Speaker 3>So there was loads of great stories. There was loads

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<v Speaker 3>of great football played the beginning and the end weren't great,

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<v Speaker 3>but the stuff in between.

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<v Speaker 1>Was really good. That's my thing right there, the stories,

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<v Speaker 1>the drama, the in between. I love hearing Jonathan say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what makes a World Cup great, and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes me wonder what the story of this Summer's World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup will be more after the break. This is American football.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Fernande Charity. By and large, the nineteen ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup is credited with bringing back soccer to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. Two years after the tournament, in nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 1>the US gave birth to Major League Soccer. Obviously, we

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<v Speaker 1>know that the US women's team has the most wins

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<v Speaker 1>since the Women's World Cup started in nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>They are the winning team.

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<v Speaker 4>The goal, the woman they fed most of the air,

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<v Speaker 4>has given the USA the league.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year, with the World Cup at home the men,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have another chance to prove themselves on their home

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<v Speaker 1>turf and the home audience is watching.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason that we're decked out in this red, white

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<v Speaker 5>and blue reppin for USA is for this reason. The

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<v Speaker 5>exclusive reveal of the twenty twenty six US Soccer World

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<v Speaker 5>Cup uniform.

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<v Speaker 1>Here. They are the most watched, the most followed event

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<v Speaker 1>worldwide is going to be played here in the US,

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico and Canada, and this tournament is already primed

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<v Speaker 1>for good stories. There's so many countries who fought so

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<v Speaker 1>hot to get here, like Kati, deep in a humanitarian crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>with security at an all time low, gangs ruled the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet they qualified to play this year, making an

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<v Speaker 1>appearance for the first time since nineteen seventy four. Iraq

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<v Speaker 1>is also competing for the first time in forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be eight Arab nations playing, a record

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<v Speaker 1>Ivery Coast and Senegal are set to compete, even though

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<v Speaker 1>the US government put a visa ban on both of

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<v Speaker 1>those countries. These stories also make it impossible to deny

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<v Speaker 1>that the World Cup is coming back to a very

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<v Speaker 1>different United States thirty two years later.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a World Cup that people are

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<v Speaker 3>approaching in trepidation because we don't know what's going to

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<v Speaker 3>happen with Iran. It's the twenty third World Cup, the

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<v Speaker 3>previous twenty two. The attitude of the House has always been,

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<v Speaker 3>please come to our country, look at how gred it is,

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<v Speaker 3>and go home. Tell everybody, by and large, that has

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<v Speaker 3>been the attitude of hosts. You look back, even Mussolani

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen thirty four subsidized travel for foreign fans because

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<v Speaker 3>you wanted people to come and see his Italy and

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<v Speaker 3>how efficient and beautiful and effective it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the case today. The US is overly hostile

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<v Speaker 1>to foreigners.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, four qualified nations on the visa band lists, others

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<v Speaker 3>on a soft block list. It's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>difficult tournament from that point of view, in a way

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<v Speaker 3>that other tournaments haven't been.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this will most likely become part of this

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup story, visa bands, ice, raids, war. Still, none

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<v Speaker 1>of that can take away from how deeply diverse of

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<v Speaker 1>a country we are, and that diversity will be on

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<v Speaker 1>display at this World Cup. As Americans wave they are

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<v Speaker 1>many flags even before planes arrived from abroad. There will

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<v Speaker 1>be a base of fans from all over the world

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<v Speaker 1>ready to cheer for their roots. Call me hopeful, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you will rally. I mean it is football,

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<v Speaker 1>after all. Who do I root for the World Cup? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>USA, always, always USA. I like the German team Moncle

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<v Speaker 2>first and the USA obviously second.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go with United States or Port Chico, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico percent because I'm from there, my second church of Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go ahead and say I just root

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<v Speaker 1>for the Ecuadorian national team.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh USA, USA Nigerian blood roots, of course, but USA.

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<v Speaker 1>All the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Haiti because I was born there, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to live in Brazil shortly. And

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<v Speaker 2>actually one of the game that I'm absolutely going to

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<v Speaker 2>be devastated to watch is while against Haiti.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say I routed a lot for England

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously I'm half British Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the Combia Mence team, not England, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey for.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know Mexico, but truly the US because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been raised here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a complicated time to be a US soccer fan.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like part of me wants to root for

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<v Speaker 4>the United States, even though politically I have some complications here.

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<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't mean we shouldn't root for our guys here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll root for Mexico, and if Mexico doesn't too great,

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<v Speaker 2>then our root for USA.

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<v Speaker 1>Viva Mexico. So join me every week for gripping and

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