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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: Morning everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We all the Breakfast Club. We got

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Speaker 3: a special guest in the.

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Speaker 1: Building, one of the best to ever do it.

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Speaker 3: Celebrate in the twentieth anniversary of Thug Motivation One on one,

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, j Z.

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Speaker 1: What I'm doing, What I'm doing, what's happening? Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Good morning. How you feeling, brother man, great man, better

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Speaker 1: than most? You know what I mean? Right?

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Speaker 3: I would need I would say I was talking to

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Speaker 3: somebody yesterday, this is the other day, and he was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm my way to JEZ House.

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Speaker 2: I'm like for what He was like, I'm opening up

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Speaker 2: for Jesus. I said, what you mean to open up?

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Speaker 2: It's like j Z DJ as a hot used to

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Speaker 2: do it to shut up.

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Speaker 1: He was like, yes, DJ, Yeah, you know I used

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Speaker 1: to DJ back in the day when I was you know,

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Speaker 1: young in the hood. You know what I'm saying. I

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Speaker 1: hustled up on the DJ set and uh, I was

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Speaker 1: just going the hood, just DJ on people's borges. That

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Speaker 1: was kind of my thing. But that's how I got

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Speaker 1: into music, you know. What I'm saying. So for me,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's like a pastime. But you know,

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Speaker 1: like the great Andre three thousands said, if you can't

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Speaker 1: find a vibe, you gotta create it. So I just

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Speaker 1: invite dope people over to my crib, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, curated. You know, we might do some some

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Speaker 1: red wine and Popeye's Chicken, and I might throw the

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Speaker 1: set and we just get a cracking vibe. That's interesting.

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Speaker 4: So that's how you've been feeling like you haven't been

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Speaker 4: finding a vibe late lyast you've been trying to create one.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I like to travel a lot, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And I like to live, but

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Speaker 1: also I like to you know, like turn people onto

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Speaker 1: what I've learned when I've been around the world. So

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Speaker 1: it's just like different types of music, different types of curations.

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Speaker 1: So it's just dope to have people come up to

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Speaker 1: your houses you trust and just vibe. You know, people

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Speaker 1: get tired of going our cameras everywhere. You know, some

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Speaker 1: very distinguished black people in Atlanta and they like to

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Speaker 1: really live. So I just like, come over to my

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Speaker 1: crib man, we just hang out, you know what. I'm

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Speaker 1: saying it's dope though.

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Speaker 5: It like is it all rapid?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it was like no, it was like you

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Speaker 3: play everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, house music, old school. Yeah, it's vibe. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I got so, I got a

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Speaker 1: little soap. Yeah, I got a little something. You should

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Speaker 1: come nick safe.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm you're gonna tell about everybody in the house.

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Speaker 4: Whoever in the house, I tell you d everybody. Twenty

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Speaker 4: year anniversary and one of the greatest hip hop albums, Yes, yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: What does it feel like mentally to have to revisit

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, it feels like that album

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Speaker 1: was supposed to happen, uh, and even twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: just the obstacles that I had to go through to,

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Speaker 1: feels like deja vu. But the but the consequences are

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Speaker 1: not dire. They just real life things and you got

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Speaker 1: to show your adversity. And it feels like I was

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Speaker 1: just talking to somebody about the other day. It's just like, now,

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Speaker 1: Soul Survivor really resonates with me. It makes sense, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Because I'm a soul surviving and

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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the word, I'm like, oh, this is me,

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Speaker 1: this is who I am. You know when I wrote it,

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Speaker 1: it was a record. Now this is my life and

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Speaker 1: it's just like to be twenty because you got to think,

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Speaker 1: like you think about Park and Big you know, what

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Speaker 1: would they what would they have done twenty years in

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Speaker 1: the game. You know what I'm saying, You celebrating all

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Speaker 1: eyes on me life after death twenty years later. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Park might have been DJ in his basement.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying, but I'm living life

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Speaker 1: and I'm going through you know, one of those stages

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Speaker 1: this world, but I'm not of it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I get to watch it. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I already put my work in so

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Speaker 1: I get to sit back. But I'm dealing with real

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Speaker 1: empowering other people. So it's now I got to really

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Speaker 1: practice my skills of leadership, but with my catalog behind me,

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Speaker 1: because I can stand on that because it's solid. You

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Speaker 1: I'm fraid, you're barely amazed. I could keep going if

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Speaker 1: I wanted to, but I got to.

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Speaker 2: You have survivors remorse at all because I used to.

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Speaker 2: You have so many people that you ran.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to. But everybody know me. They know

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Speaker 1: what I'm solid. You know what I'm saying. But at

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Speaker 1: and I ain't e I'm saying that to say a

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Speaker 1: lot of people don't survive the war. Baby, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like I ain't got no reason

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm just trying to live my life, make

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Speaker 1: sure my people straight, you know, put me into people

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Speaker 1: you know, just inspiring and involving my culture, which is

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Speaker 1: why I'm even doing this symphony tour, which is crazy

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Speaker 1: because I think I'm the first one to ever take

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Speaker 1: a symphony around the world to do a tour. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean to celebrate, you know, my first

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Speaker 1: debut album, which is about three four times platinum. I

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Speaker 2: Time, but I can't.

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Speaker 1: Motivation one. Yeah, and it's crazy because it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: for a funeral or adding. It's a celebration and it's

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Speaker 1: not just about It's not just about you know, the music,

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Speaker 1: It's about everybody who came along with his journey with me.

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Speaker 1: That will celebrate. Think about where you was twenty years ago,

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Speaker 1: So this is a reason for everybody put on a

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Speaker 1: And I do want to say this, this is not

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Speaker 1: this is not the opera. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna sit down and cross your legs. This

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Speaker 1: he helped me produce it. De Hodges, he wrote the music.

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Speaker 1: He's actually conducting it. Those brothers are crazy about DJ

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Speaker 1: got dj A's with me. It's a celebration.

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, when you were making this album twenty years ago, right,

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Speaker 3: Were you thinking because you look at a lot of

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Speaker 3: right that first album, the catalog's not strong, they can't

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Speaker 1: Were you thinking about that.

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Speaker 2: When you're writing this first album or was it just

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get out the hood.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I was just trying to still alive and free,

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Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be heard. And the reason

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Speaker 1: why that album is so solid is because I put

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Speaker 1: everything in that. You know, I didn't have another shot,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like no label

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Speaker 1: had spent all these all these all this money to

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Speaker 1: you gotta think, like I lost my voice, I tore

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Speaker 1: like I was humbled and the album got leaked four

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Speaker 1: in a better place that this is all I had,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I put everything in

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Speaker 1: that trapa dye in this. Yeah, everything, by the way,

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Speaker 1: I probably you know it was riding around. You're still

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Speaker 1: getting it. The Statute of limitations or put that out there.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting what you said about the record

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Speaker 4: Soul Survivor, because at that point in your life you

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Speaker 4: had survived to a certain extent, but you didn't you

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Speaker 4: didn't feel that way.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean you got to think about it. I

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Speaker 1: didn't really even start celebrating life until the recession. Wow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was out of it, bro I was drinking, smoking, living.

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Speaker 1: I'm just holding on, you know what I'm saying, because

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Speaker 1: I didn't know then I woke up one day It's like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I'm still free.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know at any moment it could go yeah.

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Speaker 1: And ain't nothing like that. That's some type of stress

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Speaker 1: it's just it's every day, it never stops, and you're

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Speaker 1: saying because now I'm like, I'm a superstar. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was telling them the other day. Man, I got

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Speaker 1: Boston for the Recession tour. You know, I get the

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Speaker 1: stage and I'm telling the security guard, Hey, yo, they

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Speaker 1: throwing stuff at me. We got to get out here

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Speaker 1: and get down. He's like, sir, No, their panties.

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Speaker 2: Down like this.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, objects, you know, bros and stuff.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, Yo, this is this is different because

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Speaker 1: you got to think when I was doing shows, when

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Speaker 1: Doug Motivation came out, all the gangsters in the front.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying all the all the hustlers.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't no women. I didn't have any women fans,

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Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the women fans out there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I didn't have that.

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Speaker 4: So when you put that record, the record with Tree

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Speaker 4: songs on the album, that was them trying to tell you, Jesus,

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Speaker 4: you got to make something.

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Speaker 1: For the lead. That was me trying to do a

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Speaker 1: record with Trey. Oh okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you ever hung out with Trigger Drey? Yes? Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: makes you want to do records like this. I need that.

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Speaker 1: I need that about life. You know what I'm saying. Emotionally?

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Speaker 4: Do you ever get triggered when you're on stage performing

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Speaker 4: some of those records though?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, especially like lately, because I'm so

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Speaker 1: seasoned with it that, you know, everything is like a

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Speaker 4: That it's okay, that record's best ever.

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Speaker 1: I was still pushing Trapade the song and the label

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00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,360
Speaker 1: called me and Secure called me. He's like yo, He's like, yeah,

429
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,159
Speaker 1: you can shoot trapa dive. That's what you want to do.

430
00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,399
Speaker 1: We're shooting Soul Surviva. How do you want to shoot

431
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,840
Speaker 1: the video? Came to Brooklyn, shot the video. Everybody showed up, Hold,

432
00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: Jim Jones, Cameron, you name it. It was crazy. It was

433
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 1: it was festive and the video you know, we did

434
00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 1: it like paid him full. It was crazy. It was

435
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,119
Speaker 1: probably one of the most memorable moments of my career,

436
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because you know, you always

437
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 1: heard stories about Brooklyn, like, ain't nobody come to Brooklyn.

438
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 1: They're like, Jesus, we love you. Like I'm I'm out

439
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,200
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn shooting the video and everybody from the blocks

440
00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: coming out, and the whole label was there. A lot

441
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 1: of guys from Atlanta came in like it was. It was,

442
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 1: it was ill and when the video came out, it

443
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 1: was gone. And I didn't really and I told I

444
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 1: was telling somebody that I knew Akon from being around

445
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: the way because it was like him and Boo. I

446
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,920
Speaker 1: couldn't tell him apart, right, you know what I'm saying.

447
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 1: So I didn't realize he was that big oversea and

448
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. And then this is the first collaboration that

449
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,680
Speaker 1: I've ever done, so I didn't realize doing a record

450
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 1: with somebody that you can actually tap into their fan

451
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,400
Speaker 1: base too, on a national level or a global level, right,

452
00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 1: And I ain't know that. So it went from me

453
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 1: being able to walk through the airport, you know what

454
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, seven a m. To catch my flight to

455
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 1: like now I'm walking through the airport. Everybody, Hey, con

456
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: you like where you from? Brother Africa? Man? We love you.

457
00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, you know what I'm saying. So

458
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 1: it was love and it was just like one thing

459
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 1: I say about the boy Khin, He's different, you know

460
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because he's over there, you know, and

461
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: they love him. You know. I shows with him in

462
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: Africa and I'm like, okay, like what is going on?

463
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 1: Nobody knows who I am, but know who you are.

464
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 1: And he was like, you got to be over here

465
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And I love that, you know

466
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And we over the years hit me up.

467
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: You know, over the years we always stayed locked in.

468
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: Hit me up. The other day, I was like, yo,

469
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: we number one on TikTok. I don't even know what

470
00:20:52,800 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: that means, but I'm like, yeah, really flippered to the judge.

471
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Yeah right, way got them ten. I'm

472
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: trying to get him off for about phone and a half,

473
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, shout out to ma'a man.

474
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Speaker 5: I'm shocked that you didn't know that you were such

475
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 5: a saxaple. I'm really sitting here like you how.

476
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: Did you not?

477
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like in the you know, like

478
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know that then, you know what I'm saying,

479
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: cause you gotta think like back then when I was

480
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: doing you know, I was I'm five eight. I was

481
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: two sixty skin bad. I want drinking water. My dad

482
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 1: was waffle House and Crystal. You know what I'm saying.

483
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm partying all day because I didn't know if I

484
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: was going to be home for real. Yeah I was

485
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: big now, Oh yeah yeah yeah, not get it now.

486
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 1: I mean even on the intellectual level, like I know

487
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: that I can sit down smart with the best of them.

488
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:48,920
Speaker 1: I know that for a fact.

489
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: We saw you with Neil.

490
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah shot, and then I.

491
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 5: Said, I was even saying a lot of women in

492
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 5: the commons saying, oh after the divorce, man, he looked

493
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 5: even better.

494
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I received that.

495
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,120
Speaker 5: But I know that that was like an intense time.

496
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 5: You know, last year, you're going through all of that,

497
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 5: even with you know, the custody battle she did win

498
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 5: and everything. Where are things with you on your ex?

499
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: Now?

500
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: Peace? Yeah? Peace? Man. I just I'm I'm all about understanding.

501
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: I'm all about what's best for everybody, the greater you know,

502
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: the greater good. And it's just like I'm just telling you,

503
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: Like my life, I tell myself this every day, like, man,

504
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: this is amazing. I don't got no enemies, I ain't

505
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 1: got no issues. I don't want no enemies. I don't

506
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: want no issues. I just want peace. I just want joy,

507
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: and I just want freedom. I love my freedom. You

508
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I love it, Like you

509
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: just talk about I came up here independently. I just

510
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: call like I'm coming to the breakfast club. You know

511
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I ain't got to check in,

512
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 1: I ain't gotta you know, I ain't got to talk

513
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: to no label, I ain't got to do nothing to

514
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 1: shout out to depth jam. I love y'all. But it's

515
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: just like freedom and ownership is everything. You know what

516
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Especially when you're talking art, you're talking culture,

517
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: talking to your mind. You know what I'm saying, Like

518
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I've worked hard my whole life. This is like this

519
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: this is the season of me. You know what I'm saying.

520
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm putting myself first. It all costs, you know what

521
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it's just like my piece is everything.

522
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: Like everybody didn't know me. Know that. You know what

523
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They calm and be like, yeah, bro, like

524
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: I love you, but don't call me nothing crazy. You

525
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

526
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Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, how was that because

527
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: you're very private, very private person, but that was so

528
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: public did not irk you at all, like everybody in

529
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 3: your business talking about you.

530
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, I had to come to the realization that I

531
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Speaker 1: know who I am and that nobody else can't tell

532
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Speaker 1: me different. So as long as I stayed on the

533
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Speaker 1: path of integrity and staying true to myself, it wasn't

534
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Speaker 1: nothing really to worry about because anybody didn't know me,

535
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I even heard y'all was up here,

536
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: like now, I know, I know Jezu you know that,

537
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: But that's that's because my reputation exceeds me. I'm like,

538
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't on nothing, you know what I'm saying.

539
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: That's I need to be you know what I'm saying,

540
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not. So it's just like it comes with

541
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: the territory, you know what I'm saying, he where as

542
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: the crown. It's just like you know, people talked about Jesus,

543
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They're gonna talk about everybody.

544
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's not gonna like you. Now, if I'm a good

545
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: person to you and you don't like me, then there's

546
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: a problem. But if you don't like me because of

547
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: what you heard or what you think, then I ain't

548
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: none of my spiritual business. I can't do nothing about that.

549
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can't even convince you

550
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: because your mind has made up. However, if you know

551
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: me and we had some type of interaction and action,

552
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: I haven't done anything wrong to you, then that says

553
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: more about you than me, because now you judge and

554
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: now you judge me. There's no judgment here because I'm

555
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: not perfect by far. But if I haven't done anything

556
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: to you, then you can't take that position because you know,

557
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: the people around me got real love for me and

558
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: my friends in my circle, like I never felt any

559
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: type of just but the people who wasn't for me

560
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: of course, and that I mean that did me a solid.

561
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: Now I ain't got to even worry about cutting you off.

562
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, would get married again yet

563
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: me up, I'm gonna be all the way on. I

564
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: love my freedom and that has nothing to do and

565
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything in the past. I

566
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: just love my freedom. You know what I'm saying, Like

567
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: I love it. You know, I think like partners are amazing.

568
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 4: You know I would think, so, how did you feel

569
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 4: when the Internet said you were you were trying to

570
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 4: holler me along by any means necessarily.

571
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: They wasn't lying, It was not lying. But I was real. Men,

572
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 1: I never cheated like that. No, I don't cheat me

573
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: like that. I'm saying, like, that's a little hanging fruit.

574
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: If I'm locked in, I'm like, then we got to

575
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: be married. Like, I'm just not a cheater. That's like,

576
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna cheat my friends. You know what I'm saying.

577
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. That ain't in my blood. But

578
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: but but you said I was trying to holler, Yeah,

579
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: I was, you know, but I had to be respectful

580
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: because I was still you know, finalizing, you know what

581
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it was hard.

582
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 3: It was tough saying focus, they're gonna link you with

583
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: everybody now, they're gonna link you everybody.

584
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: Ability the other day when you did that, they.

585
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: Wouldn't do that. They would do We love Cynthia. Man

586
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: shout out to Cynthia. That's a home. You know what

587
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Now.

588
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 2: Now the other one, yeah.

589
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 1: I just said on that real quick.

590
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: On the other one, oh, absolutely everything is smilized.

591
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: Park.

592
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit the Park. But I'm not gonna play

593
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: about that.

594
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: So you said you might see her at some of

595
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 4: these shows.

596
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, she's invited. I know she has a

597
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: beautiful black dress. He's definitely invited.

598
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Speaker 4: I do want to know what what inspired you to

599
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 4: re reimagine the album in this way though, because I'm

600
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 4: sitting I'm like your symphony orchestra, black tie, twist your

601
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: fingers up bag.

602
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: But when we did it with the we did it

603
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta was the first one. There was no feeling

604
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: like that because there was a lot of people that

605
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: I saw and by the way, I've been trying to

606
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: do this for you know, at least five years. But

607
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: it was like so many people that I saw in

608
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: the crowd that I knew personally that I was just

609
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: proud of where they was at because they're successful this,

610
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: that that, But they don't want to come to a

611
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: show where they feel I want to bring my woman out,

612
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: I want to get you. I want to go to

613
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: dinner before and hit the spot after. This is a celebration.

614
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: This isn't a show a concert. This is a one

615
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: night you know, one man. One might think, and it's

616
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: just like, why not celebrate the evolution of it. And

617
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: also I would like to add that I feel like

618
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: it's my moral obligation because I was the one that

619
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: told these kids that trapide. I feel like it's my

620
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: moral obligation to show them evolution in this and that

621
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: you don't have to change to evolve, you know what

622
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, if you make art, it should

623
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: grow with you, right, it shouldn't. You shouldn't have to

624
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: be a different person, because I think that's what they

625
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: run into the roadblocks. It's just like I gotta be

626
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: thugged forever, you know what I'm saying. And that's if

627
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: that's how you feel, that's how you feel, But I don't.

628
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna gotta be on the block with my

629
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like now, I'm in the boardrooms,

630
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: right and that's okay. And my thing is my is

631
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: my mind because I know I'm a lot of water

632
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: dos and I don't been through enough to know that

633
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: if the press is on, I'm not worried about losing

634
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: my job. They may be. I'm gonna make sound decisions

635
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: because I've been through it before. So that's my gift.

636
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: But for the culture, it hurts me to know these

637
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: young men and to see them in these situations. I care,

638
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: bro Like, I don't care what nobody These are my

639
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: These are like my little brothers, and I know I

640
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: can't change them, right, so I can't judge them. The

641
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: only thing I could do is what I saw, like

642
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: hold them do for me. Just leave by example. You

643
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: know what I'm meaning, Just do your thing and just

644
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: leave the door open or the back door at least,

645
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: because it's not easy, like to even get to this

646
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: point and all the turmoil and those that got closed

647
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: on me just to even do this this project, you

648
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I had to really really realize,

649
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: like okay, you still you. So you gotta really, you know,

650
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: do this the right way and it's on your own.

651
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: But you gotta realize they ain't gonna let just let

652
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: you in this door like that. But so I got

653
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: to make sure I leave the door open for the kids.

654
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: It's coming up at the generation behind him, because if

655
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: you really look at it, when Trappa Daye dropped up

656
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: motivation all this, if you've seen the influx of street

657
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: cats that got into music because they was like, man,

658
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I saw Jesus, I know people that he actually was

659
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: affiliated with, got down with whatever cities he been to, whatever,

660
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: So I know, if he can do it, I can

661
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: do it. The only problem is the rules are different

662
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: because ain't nobody, ain't no big homies, So it's like

663
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: the wild wild West, you know what I'm saying. It's

664
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: probably why I'm listening to the house music these days,

665
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because it's like I love

666
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: the music, but it's a different vibration, so I don't

667
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: need that all day. I can listen to it in

668
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: the gym, right, but I'm not gonna listen to it,

669
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: you know when I get up in the morning to

670
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: go do what I gotta do, because I want to

671
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: keep it, you know. But at the same time, I

672
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: feel like it's my more gatson, like in my heart,

673
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that's my purpose to

674
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: inspire and to help culture evolve, Like that's that's my purpose.

675
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Do you have conversations with the younger artists?

676
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: And the reason I ask is yeah, it's like you said,

677
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 3: you know, we talk about it all the time. We

678
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: did a lot of super stuff back then, but there

679
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 3: was none of this. There was no internet, right, They

680
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: weren't telling on themselves, but now it just seems like

681
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 3: it's the cool thing to tell everybody what you did,

682
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: rather hate it illegal or not, which is the wow.

683
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: Crazy because there's no integrity and there's nobody to follow,

684
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: which is why I don't do a lot of interviews.

685
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I come talk to y'all.

686
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: We don't kick it, but I don't got nothing to

687
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: say to somebody who's looking for ignorance. For me, you

688
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm not. I'm still operating by

689
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: the cold, you know what I'm saying. These people are

690
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: moving the goalposts. I don't like that. I don't want

691
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: to play in that game. You know what I'm saying.

692
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: Every time it's something different. Why is it something different

693
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: for them and not me, you know what I'm saying,

694
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: or us? So for me, I feel for them because

695
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: they don't got nobody to follow, you know what I'm saying.

696
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: And there's nothing like giving somebody this because you got

697
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: to think about it, like WEE got the type of

698
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: money he got, but he ain't get Lebron money for playing.

699
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: So they're giving them a different type of money, and

700
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: they're using the money. They still got trauma, they still

701
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: got things going on that's so important to them that

702
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: they feel like they got to deal with. But now

703
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: you're giving them money to few the war man.

704
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: I seen this kid on TikTok a Couples goingmembery showing

705
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: you that video. The dude was literally in his room

706
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: crying to his girlfriend because his object came up on

707
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: some money, right, and the way he was serious, he

708
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 4: was like, man like, man, they're gonna have all the

709
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 4: type of choppers and switching's actually ain't fair.

710
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, first of all, why you're recording this

711
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 1: number one? He's probably trying to get a safe haven

712
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: to me. You know who it is. I don't respect it.

713
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, I said I wasn't gonna talk about it

714
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: when I came up here because I feel like, ain't

715
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: none of my spiritual business. But as somebody who's been

716
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: in the game, a part of the game and in

717
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: this world or not of it, I just don't respect it.

718
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: Ain't no integrity. Like everybody getting up here, they talking

719
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: too much. They're saying too many things, and if that's okay,

720
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: then the next generation gonna do the same thing and

721
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: even worse. It even worse. And I'm only concerned about

722
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: the culture because at some point, when nobody respects it

723
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: no more, they're not going to respect the art form.

724
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: It don't even matter what you say. It'll be like

725
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: we'll be obsolete, you know what I'm saying, because ain't nothing,

726
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: ain't no, There ain't no integrity behind what we're doing

727
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: or saying, because we're doing anything, and it looks like

728
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: we're doing anything for money, right And I don't like

729
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: that because I'm not doing anything for money. You know

730
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I probably turned down more than I

731
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: accept because it got to be in line with my purpose.

732
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: And that's just me. I'm not asking nobody else to

733
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: be that way. But when you speak of a culture,

734
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: you can see why people kind of stay away from

735
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: it because they're kind of like, I don't know if

736
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: I want to be affiliated with that, you know what

737
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I don't. I don't, you know, And

738
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: if all my kids are going to think is that

739
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: you know that I was an artist, and that's it.

740
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I'm a father first, I'm a man first. You know

741
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm a CEO first. You know what

742
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm a big brother first, you know what

743
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm all the things. I'm a son, you know,

744
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: So we can't just get categorized and boxed into what

745
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: we are as far as coach and go live that out,

746
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: because then if something happened to your kids, are the

747
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: ones and suffering, you know, ain't nothing like having a

748
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: daddy that was rich and now we ain't got nothing

749
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: because he made a decision for what he thought was right.

750
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: They had nothing to do with anybody. And you asked

751
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: me earlier, And I ain't calling no names because I

752
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: ain't trying to call nobody out because I love them. Bro,

753
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to set on these catch beds in

754
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: their house and they room like, hey man, we got

755
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: to talk, bro. Like I'm a call like, hey man,

756
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: what you got going?

757
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: Bro?

758
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: Like, come pull up on me. Let's talk about this. Man.

759
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm did it so many times. And I think that

760
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: the disconnect is when they when these labels are giving

761
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: these kids these type of money, money equals respect to them.

762
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: So it's like, I'm not listening to you because you

763
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: ain't doing nothing for me. And I got this, which

764
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: is fine now, sustaining it is a whole different conversation,

765
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: but even keeping you because now you got the change

766
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: to change generational wealth, you know what I'm saying, or

767
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: either put those kids in. It's a difference between your

768
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: kids going to to public school and private school or

769
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: having those type of friends when they grow up, because

770
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: that's what it's about, like their relationships and who they're

771
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: gonna meet and grow up with and go to college

772
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: with and all that, because it ain't about you. It's

773
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: about your kids, right, But just imagine that everything's going great,

774
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: everybody's loving this new life we got, and then you

775
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: just make a decision. It's purely based on the motions

776
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: and ego. And I tell everybody, man, a bad day

777
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: for the ego is a great day for the soul.

778
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because I've had to make

779
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: so many unpopular decisions, but it all worked out for

780
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: me because I'm in peace right and I ain't gotta play,

781
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like I don't got

782
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: to play the game because if you come over here,

783
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We're gonna be in the right.

784
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: It's not even it ain't even about being gangs. It's

785
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: about being a man. It's just like I don't want

786
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: to be nothwhere around it. I love y'all. You can

787
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: come one on, you know, one on one, but don't

788
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: bring all your partners. I don't want to be bought

789
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: of that, you know what I'm saying. But I feel

790
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: for them because you know, it's a lot of web

791
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: pinles in that penitentium. Man, you know what I'm saying.

792
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: There's a lot I do want to say.

793
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 4: In regard to the music you used to make twenty

794
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 4: years ago, you can't beat yourself up about that because

795
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: you was doing the best you could with the information

796
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 4: you had at the time. And when I listened to

797
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: Third Motivation one on one that don't just a hustle

798
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: is a hustle, I don't mean that leaving me.

799
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: To no, no. And I don't want you to think

800
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: that I'm tripping. I'm saying because I always knew it

801
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: was a position of leadership. I always understood that now

802
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: what I was going through. When I was going through,

803
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: I just wised up over time and started listening to

804
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: the people who's really trying to help me, right, because

805
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: they really were, and they were people that I wouldn't

806
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: expect you know what I'm saying. There were people that

807
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: was reaching out having these conversations, but I took hey,

808
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and I was just like, Okay, tell me about that.

809
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: And you gotta stay curious, you know, you got to

810
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: ask the questions. And then when you start seeing what's

811
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: happening around you, it goes back to the streets. Like

812
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: I knew what not to do based off behind all

813
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: these people getting into trouble. So I'm like, I don't

814
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: want to do that. I ain't the jail type. I'm

815
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna tell you right now. I can't see sitting nowhere

816
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: and not being product. So I don't want to even

817
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: put myself in a position like that without me having

818
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying. But I don't regret anything.

819
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't regret my hard times. I don't regret my lows.

820
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't regret my highs. I don't regret my run ins.

821
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: I don't regret anything because it all taught me a lesson.

822
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I stand that now

823
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: and I can say that whole hardly. So when somebody

824
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: comes and talk to me, I can say, bro, look,

825
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what to do but I'm gonna

826
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: tell you, like, I don't know how that's gonna work out,

827
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: because this is what happened over here. This is what

828
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: I've seen happen with this person. Now, you could take

829
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: that data and that information, you could do whatever you

830
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: want with it, but I can assure you that if

831
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: you do that, there's gonna be some type of consequence.

832
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: So when you when you go on a journey like this,

833
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: you know, for your your twenty years of thumb motivation

834
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: one on one, does it make you like does it

835
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: make you reach out to like older people you came

836
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 4: up with?

837
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: Like, have you smoke in the big meat?

838
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Yes? Solid? Solid? Okay, yeah, everybody solid? Bro. I'm just

839
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: peace man. Welcome home is love, baby. You know what

840
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying for me, it's you know, I'm like I said, man,

841
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: it's all good me bro, you know what I'm saying?

842
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: All good?

843
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 4: What's the deep album cut that you really enjoy performing

844
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 4: off Doug Motivation on one man?

845
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: I mean listen, bro, I can't get past intro, you

846
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you gotta you gotta wait

847
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: till you hear this with the with the symphony, you

848
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying with the symphony, and I need

849
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: everybody know I'm coming through your city. I'm coming through

850
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: your town. It's gonna be amazing one night only, and

851
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: you gotta pull up. And going back to your other

852
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: question about me reaching back out, I think it's more

853
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: important for me to reach forward. So shout out the LISK,

854
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: who I just partner with for my nonprofit space, and

855
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: shout out to the Urban League of Atlanta, who I

856
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: reached out with for my Young CEO program.

857
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 2: Because it's like, what is list I know you do

858
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 2: that with the Screen Dreams Foundation.

859
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, list is is. So we got to two things

860
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 1: going right now. We definitely got the prostate cancer campaign

861
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: going on because I had a couple of friends that

862
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: go through that, so we were locked in there. But

863
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: it's definitely entrepreneurs, young entrepreneurs, you know tech spaces just

864
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 1: you have it like we're showing them how to set

865
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: up their lives so that they can win. And same

866
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: thing with the Urban League of Atlanta. Same thing. We

867
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: got the Young CEO program. You can go on my

868
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: Instagram check it out. You know, anybody from the ages,

869
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: what's the agent seventeen to twenty four and we send

870
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: it up. We're putting them with mentors all that. And

871
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: by the way, like this is who I am. Like,

872
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: I love this. And somebody asked me, how do you

873
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: do both? They're all the same, you know what I'm saying.

874
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: We still motivating. It's all the same to me. You know,

875
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: it's just we get to jump on the stage, but

876
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: then we get to go help some people with prostate

877
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: against We get to jump on the stage and we

878
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: get to go help mentor some kids. You know. I

879
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: love it.

880
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: And you're saving people, you know, and people can live

881
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: a much longer life if they just go.

882
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: And I know I said this last time, but I

883
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: got to say it again because you saved me. Brother.

884
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to Charlemagne for my New York Time best

885
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: selling book Adversity for Sale, because I ran into a

886
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: situation where I had an issue with a publishing company

887
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: and I called charlemagne'e like, who published your book? And

888
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: he put me with somebody and we went on to

889
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: sell a New York Times bestseller.

890
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, so thank you, thank you, brother, Thank you for

891
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 4: all the years of motivation with the music. My last question,

892
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 4: if you could go back and tell two thousand and

893
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: five GZ one thing before TM one or one drop,

894
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: what would it be?

895
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: Go order? Because I was a little reluctant because you know,

896
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: I was scared of failure, you know what I mean,

897
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: because I had so much on the line. So it

898
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: was like real pressure. You know, it ain't nothing like

899
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: everybody looking at you like a way out, you know

900
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That pressure is on your shoulder. But

901
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: then you're also looking at yourself like if because it's

902
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: different if a record labels inquiring you and you hide

903
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: in the streets and on your like they're they're pushing

904
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: this issue like this is your money, this is your time,

905
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: this is your energy. So if it doesn't work, you know,

906
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, you don't spend all. You

907
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: don't spend all your bread and now you got to

908
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: figure something else out and you don't turn your back

909
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: on everything you knew as far as like the streets,

910
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: to take this chance. So I always said it go

911
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 1: harder because there was a lot of times where I

912
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: was like I was sitting back not being the star

913
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: that I could have been, because I was having what

914
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: did it called the impostra sycally, you know, because I

915
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: was in these rooms with these guys that was really

916
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: writing and really like this is what they been doing

917
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: their whole life, and I kind of just stumbled into

918
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: this and it wasn't until I just realized that, like,

919
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: but you but you're real though, you are who you

920
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: say you are, and you don't have to be as witty.

921
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: You can be realer. And that was my thing. So

922
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: when I was saying if it's taken too long to

923
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: lock up, I was talking to the people who knew

924
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: what I was talking about, So everybody wasn't gonna get there.

925
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the that's what I had over

926
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: everybody else. I knew how to talk to the people

927
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: that mattered to me. And uh, it wasn't until I

928
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: really figured that out is when I was like, okay,

929
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: I could live in and like I said, it was

930
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: it was. I was three hours in before I woke up,

931
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: and I was just like I took that book bag

932
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: with all those not bricks, I mean like waiting it

933
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: because it was heavy, and I just took it off

934
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: and through it and I was like, I'm going to

935
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: be a star. I'm going to be a star man,

936
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: you know. So thug motivation to me was a blur

937
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: because it was like it could have happened. It might

938
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: not happened, but everything I went through I'm grateful for

939
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: even right now to this day, because there's nothing that

940
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: I go up against that I don't go What would

941
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: I have done in two thousand and five? You know

942
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how would I've worked around this? And

943
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: I love it because when people put me into you know,

944
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: like if I get in situations with business and I

945
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: called back and I called my team the next thing

946
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: and be like, Yo, we're gonna do this, they'd be like, oh, man,

947
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: I knew it. We got them, you know what I'm saying,

948
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: because they tried to box me in. I figured it out.

949
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, answer in a lot of ways just towards

950
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: like you being able to relive that time but actually

951
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: enjoy the moment.

952
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: Enjoy the moment, man, I do, and I want people

953
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: to enjoy with me. And I'm gonna say this, like

954
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: this is for us. You know, put your put your

955
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: black suito. If you don't got a bow tie, put

956
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: your black dress on. Let's have a good time. Let's celebrate.

957
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: Let's celebrate you know, evolution, Let's celebrate life, Let's celebrate

958
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: our wins, our losses and everything, like, let's have a

959
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: good time because I don't want to keep coming and

960
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: we're doing like, you know, you could do a show,

961
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: but I want an experience. You know what I'm saying.

962
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I want you to see what I'm trying to say.

963
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: And again, this is a party. This is not uh,

964
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: you know, you just come and sitting down. You know,

965
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: this is not the opera. Shout out to the opera.

966
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: But it's not the opera, gotch. We appreciate you for joinings.

967
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys and tickets. Oh you go to

968
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: gez It's TM one on one.

969
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: Live one dot com. Sir, we appreciate you for joining us.

970
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: Let's definitely pulling.

971
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I want to say this before I leave.

972
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 1: New York is gonna be lit because I'm actually officially

973
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 1: closing down the Apollo. I'm doing the last show there

974
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: until they do the renovation, so they're gonna sit down

975
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. So I will be

976
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: having an official last show with them. It's gonna be crazy.

977
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: Look on the website to find out when I'm coming

978
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: through your city. Shout out to the Breakfast Club, Shout

979
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: out to you. Out. Yeah, well there you have it. Yes, sir,

980
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: it's Jeezy.

981
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.

982
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: Wake that ass up here in the morning. The Breakfast

983
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Club