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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: Episode five, the grand finale, Season three twenty eight of

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Speaker 1: der Daley's I Guys Say production of iHeartRadio. This is

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Speaker 1: a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's

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Speaker 1: shared consciousness. My body is a resonance chamber, according to

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Speaker 1: our guests today, so we believe just a little exploring

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Speaker 1: the ranges from up here.

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Speaker 2: To that's just a scream to sing, baby to see.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, March eighth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that means it's National Peanut Cluster Day. National. Hey,

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Speaker 2: shout out to all the editors out there. It's National

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Speaker 2: proofreading Day. You know what I mean. Proof read your shit,

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Speaker 2: proofread your work, you know what I mean. And also, Jack,

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Speaker 2: shout out to your birth state. It's National Oregon Day.

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Speaker 1: Oregone. Yeah, how about that. It's a national like three

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Speaker 1: times eight is twenty four, so that day of the

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Speaker 1: month when the first two numbers make the last one.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to basic multiplication.

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Speaker 2: Is that a thing are you guys doing? Like beautiful

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Speaker 2: mind type shit right now?

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Speaker 1: Like the dumbest beautiful mind ship. Two plus two equals four,

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Speaker 1: four plus two equals six.

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Speaker 3: Like I've got the John Nash thing, but it's the

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Speaker 3: most basic mask.

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Speaker 2: Three a A one.

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Speaker 1: Kindergarten, kindergarten, beautiful mind. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien aka.

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Speaker 1: It's a murder in the back yard. Crows are looking for.

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Speaker 4: Some food almonds Gonna make these goddamn birds my friends.

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Speaker 4: That has a courtesy of Vicky Sage Murder on the

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Speaker 4: Dance Floor about the murder of crows that I want

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Speaker 4: to be friends in my backyard. I got some wild

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Speaker 4: advice from frequent guests Ben Bolan about how to be

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Speaker 4: a friend a murder of crows.

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Speaker 1: I should have just like gone directly to him right like.

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Speaker 2: It felt a little like spicy where he's like, bro,

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Speaker 2: you're how are you going to ask about Corvid's Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not hit me up? Is wrong with you? Corvid? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Every time I hear Corvid, I think of your New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's accent.

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Speaker 2: Thing Corvid, Corvid, Corvid nineteen, Corvid nineteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co

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Speaker 1: host mister Miles ground.

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Speaker 2: Break Old Lead.

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Speaker 5: He's a man who's fingers aw soo old they are

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Speaker 5: ice called old finger.

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Speaker 2: That's obviously Shirley basically from a Goldfinger the titular song

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Speaker 2: from the gold Fingers Shout out Ana, Ramic, you and

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Speaker 2: sltis for that one, because you know that's yeah. That

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Speaker 2: was like when I was first like, you know, messing

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Speaker 2: around with making beats. That was like one of the

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Speaker 2: first tracks that I sampled because the song starts off

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Speaker 2: with this wild brass hits and I was like, oh my,

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Speaker 2: just blaze shit back then. But anyway, if you're trying

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Speaker 2: to make friends with some.

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Speaker 1: Corvids with that wild vocalization, to me, my Hills, we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a wildly talented Ethio American vocalist, songwriter, composer. Her most

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Speaker 1: recent album was named among the best albums of the

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Speaker 1: year by band Camp in the Sunday Times, She's performed

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Speaker 1: on stages all over the world. The host of a

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Speaker 1: podcast radio series, Live Show, Please Welcome the brilliantly talented mcley.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Welcome back, returning Champion. How are you.

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Speaker 6: I'm I'm really good. I'm feeling sparkly today.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, we like that. We like Yeah,

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Speaker 2: people don't know this, but we demand our guest sparkle. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you are, but you are covered in sparks sparkling. Yes.

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Speaker 2: And how's the weather, rider, how's the weather in the

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Speaker 2: Bay Area?

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Speaker 6: It has been raining and raining and raining and raining

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Speaker 6: and raining and raining and raining, raining and raining and

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Speaker 6: raining and raining, but today's kind of.

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Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, we got a peak of sun. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that the weather app like suddenly be like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's going to be a torrential downpour in

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Speaker 2: like an hour.

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Speaker 6: It's not even an hour. It's like it'll be like

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Speaker 6: it's all clear, and yet my socks are already soaking

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Speaker 1: So you have that wild new AI technology where your

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Speaker 1: socks get pre wet before it before it even rains.

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Speaker 6: You know what sucks the worst. It's just the worst.

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Speaker 6: They just ruin your day anyway.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that and I think I was talking about this,

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Speaker 2: I forget where, but when your shoes are so wet

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Speaker 2: to the insoles and they're gushing. That's also one of

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Speaker 1: We were talking about that on our basketball podcast, Miles

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Speaker 1: and Jackob Matt Boost because there was a Converse shoe

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Speaker 1: that was like, oh, Nike you're gonna put air in

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Speaker 1: the bottom of your shoes. Well, we're gonna put liquid

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Speaker 1: in the bottom of our shoes. React juice. It was like, No,

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Speaker 1: people don't like, didn't want they did.

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Speaker 6: That sounds gross.

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Speaker 2: Squash squash, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like it just that's not what people are looking for

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Speaker 1: when they're running around on the basketball court is wet shoes.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing they never made it. That wasn't

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Speaker 2: would get I don't know whatever, that somehow the liquid

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Speaker 2: reacted to your muice would.

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Speaker 6: Bring it back to what the brand intent.

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Speaker 1: The physics never made any sense to me whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: No, No, there's a commercial. This one's with J. R.

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Speaker 2: Ryder from nineteen ninety four. No, Converse shoes would react choice.

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Speaker 2: They're super light, you're perfect for you.

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Speaker 1: And he comes out.

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Speaker 2: But if then he's just dunking a bunch, it's not

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Speaker 2: clear what the juice is doing.

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Speaker 1: Oh it turned him into a scary were wolf.

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Speaker 6: That he's a wolf.

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Speaker 7: He's a wolf and some game page you got.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Anyways, the way we were selling things to people,

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Speaker 2: Hey yeah, kid, yeah, we got to react juice and

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Speaker 2: he turned to a were wolf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I guess that's good for basketball. I

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Speaker 1: respect it. I respect that there's still room for like

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Speaker 1: strange looking sixty eight year old men on TV back then,

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Speaker 1: you know, now that would have been Chris Hemsworth trended.

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Speaker 2: Rather than like a retired butcher from New Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, mclet we're gonna get to know

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Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we'll

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to meet a new just completely broken

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Speaker 1: brain has dropped Freak of the Week, Mark Robinson, the

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Speaker 1: GOP candidate for North Carolina governor and man just a

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Speaker 1: murderer's row of beliefs that we've got here, truly.

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Speaker 2: Now that says a lot when even like the people

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the World War two photo of

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Speaker 1: Times Square on V Day. It's the I guess it's

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Speaker 1: called VJ Day and Times Square it is controversial because

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about consent in that one yea,

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Speaker 1: things like consenter just like, ah, shut up. So we're

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Speaker 1: lately because of the VA banned it from their hospitals.

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Speaker 1: And then we're like, psych, we just wanted to do

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Speaker 2: Just glad you heard that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we're gonna talk about music in the hospital

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Speaker 1: little bit more musical and a little less beepy, fewer

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Speaker 1: people would die. So all of that plenty more. But first, mcleat,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history that is revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 6: All Right, I was just searching there's this there's like

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Speaker 6: a new Apple Plus show called Constellation, and I was

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Speaker 6: searching is Constellation horror? Because I started watching it and

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Speaker 6: then there are these certain sounds and you're like, wait

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Speaker 6: a minute, is this is this sci fi? Or is

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Speaker 6: this like sci fi horror because I cannot do horror movies.

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Speaker 6: I can't. I don't want to talk about ghosts. I

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Speaker 6: give me nightmares, or like when I wake up in

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Speaker 6: of no, no horror movies. So, yeah, it's Constellation horror.

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Speaker 2: But is it horror?

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Speaker 6: Well I didn't keep watching.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Like there are these sounds, It's like, oh, this

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 6: I can't. I can't do horror.

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Speaker 2: Horror. Yeah, a lot of talk of ghostly voices. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: do it. So I don't. I don't like to unwind

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Speaker 1: So where does the film Alien fall for you? Have

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Speaker 1: you seen the film Alien?

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Speaker 6: I have seen it.

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Speaker 1: And horror sci fi?

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Speaker 6: Well, a horror is a hyphenated horror sci fi. I

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Speaker 6: will say that. You know, it's a little bit more

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Speaker 6: thriller to me. Yeah, you know, it's like it's like

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Speaker 6: then those things they just like like, that's not what

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Speaker 1: Having a young child really puts you in a lot

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Speaker 1: of horror movie settings, Like because you're walking around late

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Speaker 1: at night, you don't get as much sleep. You'll wake

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Speaker 1: just like staring at you, like like a horror movie.

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Speaker 1: Like that shit happens to me all the time. Oh

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Speaker 2: I used to do that. I was checking if my

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Speaker 2: mom and my grandma were breathing. Yeah, yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: remember my mom like she would catch me a couple

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Speaker 2: of times. She'd be like, please, it's it scares.

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Speaker 6: Me, super creepy, And they whisper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you held a mirror up to their mouth and

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Speaker 1: when they fogged it up, you were a red rum

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Speaker 1: on it. What I was just making sure you were

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Speaker 2: Breathing.

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Speaker 6: God, it's definitely over some kind of line.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, so is it the supernatural, like that's

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Speaker 1: what you don't funk with.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't funk okay, Okay, So you're fine with

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Speaker 2: like a just a regular human guy murderer terrorizing people,

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Speaker 2: Like is that okay? Or is that still horror? And

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Speaker 2: you're like just morally you're fine with that.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like yeah, it sounds like you're gonna cos

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Speaker 1: opponent serial killers.

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Speaker 6: What I'll say is I have stopped watching like all

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Speaker 6: High heels one hundred percent over rated? Don't want to

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Speaker 6: It was it was like it really, high heels, it's

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Speaker 2: What are you wearing? Now? What's what's your what's your

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Speaker 6: Like now I like fancy sneakers. Yeah, I'm into the

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Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody who is like a real

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Speaker 1: high heels. Unbelievable. Shouldn't be allowed.

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Speaker 2: This is I don't know if you see this. This

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Speaker 2: Yeah, became skin basically. Yeah. Well, you know, I like

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Speaker 2: Know how to I know how to dodge it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Salted a little bit before you come to the damn All.

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Speaker 1: we're back and new Broken Brain just dropped Mark Robinson,

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Speaker 1: GOP candidate for North Carolina governor. I had heard tell

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Speaker 2: You know how Trump said this guy's Martin Luther King

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Speaker 1: Like businesses pitch things. Now it's like this on steroids. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy's Martin Luther. He's got terrible back acne

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Speaker 2: And man, this black man is so maggot out in

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Speaker 2: Ruckus from The Boondocks. I don't know if you watch

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, as demonstrated by Ron DeSantis. But this

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Speaker 2: won't even use the word in public, he said, and

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Speaker 2: when he has used the word, he's likened it to slavery.

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Speaker 2: Voting rights, he believes women should not be allowed to

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Speaker 2: vote lgbt women should not be allowed to vote. Actually

442
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Speaker 2: that he said, we need to go back to the

443
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Speaker 2: time when women weren't allowed to vote voting before that

444
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Speaker 2: meet too nonsense.

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Speaker 6: And he's already the lieutenant governor.

446
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Speaker 2: He's already lieutenant governor. LGBTQ issues the end of civilist

447
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Speaker 2: and has also likened them to maggots. Not very great

448
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 2: civil rights movements. He said, a communist plot to overthrow capitalism,

449
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Speaker 2: and black people actually lost freedoms.

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Speaker 1: A communist plot to overthrow capitalism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe because towards the end, I mean,

452
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Speaker 2: you know, Martin Luther King was speaking a little bit

453
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Speaker 2: more specifically about capitalism, but again his main takeaway though,

454
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Speaker 2: is that black people actually lost freedoms during the Civil

455
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Speaker 2: rights movement. George Soros, he's the mastermind behind Boco Haram

456
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Speaker 2: in Nigeria. The Holocaust never happened, moon Landing, Fake as Hell,

457
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Speaker 2: nine to eleven, Inside Job, Michelle Obama is a man.

458
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Speaker 2: Music industry ram by Satan reparations. Guess what, folks, Black

459
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Speaker 2: people should be paying money back rather than receiving reparations.

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Speaker 1: That's just weird that, Like he got the music industry

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Speaker 1: one right, Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, I was like, yeah, you know, kind of

463
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Speaker 8: based on what we're hearing, does not sound great, might

464
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Speaker 8: not be Satan the Dark the Prince of darkness, but

465
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Speaker 8: I you mean that there is there is a there

466
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Speaker 8: is a darkness that hangs over the music industry.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, yeah, I mean a nine

468
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Speaker 2: to eleven inside job. I mean I was nineteen at

469
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Speaker 2: one point, but yeah, this is uh but yeah, so

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Speaker 2: this guy turned the maga dial up to Jesse Helms

471
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Speaker 2: on crystal meth. And keep in mind that like North

472
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Speaker 2: Carolina voters are like, you know, they're the kind of

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Speaker 2: voters that will elect a Democrat as governor like Roy Cooper,

474
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Speaker 2: but then also Trump will win the state as president,

475
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Speaker 2: so they aren't always like it's it's a little bit

476
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Speaker 2: like less idiological sometimes. And you know, while he did

477
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Speaker 2: win the nomination, thirty five percent of Republicans rejected him

478
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Speaker 2: and his terrible beliefs, which is probably more likely to

479
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Speaker 2: help Democrats down ballot than anything. But yeah, it's just this,

480
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Speaker 2: this whole the black Maga shtick is just it just

481
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Speaker 2: obviously reeks of internalized white supremacy. But since you know,

482
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Speaker 2: white supremacists are pulling the strings politically on that side.

483
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Speaker 2: You know, they might as well just keep thinking that again,

484
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Speaker 2: having a black candidate is enough to offset all the nonsense.

485
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Speaker 2: I just listed every type.

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Speaker 1: Of white supremacist we have now, you know.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly internalized, outward white supremacist. Curious's right, there's all

488
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Speaker 2: kinds that we have. But yeah, like just going down

489
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Speaker 2: that list, you're like, how do you expect to Okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I don't I haven't

491
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Speaker 2: seen Josh Stein's you know what his platform is either,

492
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Speaker 2: But it's just the this is again we're just starting

493
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Speaker 2: to see the new, the new all stars of the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election cycle.

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Speaker 1: Have we had a Holocaust denier like running for major

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Speaker 1: office like this major in office? That's pretty stag Like,

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Speaker 1: that's what did David Duke rum for? That's right? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we had.

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Speaker 2: A literal clan wizard, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I but I guess because a lot of people

501
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Speaker 2: are like these are things he said on his Facebook

502
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Speaker 2: from a while back. But either way, these all come

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Speaker 2: together to form the we have no Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he'll come through with like the watered down HOLOCAUSTA

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Speaker 1: and I'll take I don't know what that even.

506
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to be pressed on it,

507
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Speaker 2: but yeah, this is it's just it's just it is.

508
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Speaker 2: It is wild to see it because I mean there

509
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Speaker 2: was also there there was another person. I mean, Trump

510
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Speaker 2: would always meet with these people, but yeah, running for

511
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Speaker 2: it's not that he's running on that platform, but he'll

512
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Speaker 2: probably do the thing where he's like, oh, I'm not talking,

513
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Speaker 2: but I was just old. I never said anything like that,

514
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He's like, I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: focus on denying people body autonic or he'll just like.

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Speaker 6: Or he'll just like, you know, run wild off the

517
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Speaker 6: page of the talking points that the Republican Party is

518
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Speaker 6: trying to get it to stick to, you know what

519
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Speaker 6: I mean, because those things are so unhinged that it's

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Speaker 6: not a person who could like stay focused on like messaging.

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Speaker 6: It's just that that is I don't know, but it's like,

522
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Speaker 6: my how many times do I do I end up

523
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Speaker 6: speechless in a day because of like some wild assault,

524
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Speaker 6: Like I'm like, wait, what what?

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Speaker 2: Truly truly And he was even saying like he's like,

526
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Speaker 2: you know, Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby are being maligned

527
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Speaker 2: like was was his take was a few years ago.

528
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Speaker 2: So he's you know, he's he's on the wrong side

529
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Speaker 2: of everything basically. So you know, I gotta love the consistency. Yeah,

530
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Speaker 2: he's just gotta make sure everything sir reparations. Nah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we need to be paying money back. I was like, wow,

532
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Speaker 2: not even wrong. They're saying that.

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Speaker 1: All the way wrong. He doesn't just want to be

534
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Speaker 1: part way wrong. He's gonna he's gotta follow it through

535
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Speaker 1: to the logical conclusion like this, Each each stance on

536
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Speaker 1: each issue is like a logic puzzle for him, where

537
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Speaker 1: he's like no, no, no, no, no, no no, we gotta go.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get every single point of this as.

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Speaker 2: Wrongly as possible. Yeah right, so yeah, this is we

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Speaker 2: shall see what will happen in the fall. But like

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Speaker 2: I said, like having that that, that's probably going to

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Speaker 2: motivate some people to come out against him, to vote

543
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Speaker 2: against him. But hey, I don't know, you know, it's

544
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, we don't know anything right now.

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Speaker 6: That times I think this stuff is about the Overton window.

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Speaker 6: You'll you know that, like yeah, right that exactly, just

547
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Speaker 6: like make it go so extreme that the people who

548
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Speaker 6: used to look extreme, look moderate. You know, there's like

549
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Speaker 6: because that's just like, what kind of strategy is that.

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Speaker 6: That's the only kind of strategy I can logically think

551
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Speaker 6: of that would make any of that make any kind

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Speaker 6: of sense.

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Speaker 1: And it's much more popular with the Republican voter. Right,

554
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Speaker 1: so they do better in the primary than they're going

555
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Speaker 1: to do in the general.

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Speaker 2: Right, exactly exactly, because like I said, in twenty twenty two,

557
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Speaker 2: there were a lot of wild election denialists, you know,

558
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Speaker 2: full hardcore maggot people, and majority of like especially the

559
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Speaker 2: people that like these are Trump's picked, they weren't losing,

560
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Speaker 2: and I remember at the end of the twenty twenty

561
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: two cycle, they were like what are we what's going on?

562
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Speaker 2: What do we do? It's like, it's your platform and

563
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: these absolute clowns that you're running out? What do you mean?

564
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: What's going on? Like have you seen what these people

565
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Speaker 2: say out loud?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? But I remember there was a point like after

567
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Speaker 1: twenty twelve where the Republicans were like, we've just got

568
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Speaker 1: to like, you know, triangulate and become more moderate because

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Speaker 1: this stuff isn't popular. And instead they went in the

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Speaker 1: opposite direction and won the presidential election next time. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like, on the one hand that it's like, wow,

572
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Speaker 1: they're really digging their own grave. On the other hand,

573
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Speaker 1: our country there's some wild shit happening.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's weird because his campaign website, like there's

575
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Speaker 2: nothing about where like the issues. It's just like volunteer events,

576
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Speaker 2: get updates, donate meet Mark the first pair, Like I'm

577
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Speaker 2: just gonna read from his website. This is this is

578
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Speaker 2: how you get to meet him. Quote meet Mark. I

579
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Speaker 2: was I grew up as the ninth of ten children

580
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Speaker 2: in Greensboro. My father was an alcoholic who beat my mother.

581
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Speaker 2: He died when I was in the fifth grade, and

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Speaker 2: I was terrified. Damn wow. I was like, he's coming

583
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Speaker 2: out with that, Like it's like whoa, Okay, lot of

584
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Speaker 2: lot of heavy shit there. But then we go through

585
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Speaker 2: there's really nothing about like what his you know, like

586
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Speaker 2: the nothing that reflects just how extreme he is on anything,

587
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: because he probably can't put like on the issues abortion.

588
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna be like won't use the word in public,

589
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: you can't have that. But hey, there's I'm sure there's

590
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Speaker 2: still time for the consultants to get in. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is this is Donald Trump's favorite pick in North

592
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Speaker 2: Carolina's MLK on steroids, So because I think the other

593
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Speaker 2: thing about that too is Mark Robinson has said he

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Speaker 2: does not like Martin Luther King.

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Speaker 6: Also, so yeah, well I mean again, did you yeah exactly,

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Speaker 6: I mean this guy, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's he's on every Yeah. So yeah, that guy

598
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Speaker 1: was a comedy I guess according to his world.

599
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Speaker 2: Coming over overthrow capitalism the greatest system ever known to man.

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Speaker 1: That's right? Who all right? A little bit about the

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Speaker 1: photograph VJ. Day in Times Square, famous World War Two

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Speaker 1: picture in which a sailor and nurse kiss on the

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Speaker 1: street following news that Japan surrendered. It was temporarily like

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Speaker 1: there was a memo that went out for the Department

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Speaker 1: of Veterans Affairs that was basically saying, this doesn't fit

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Speaker 1: the values of the VA anymore. We now know that

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Speaker 1: this picture was taken, like was not consensual, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we want to foster a quote to foster a more

609
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Speaker 1: trauma informed environment, which is like, okay, where's the catch

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Speaker 1: That actually seems like y'all are doing the right thing there.

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Speaker 1: And then there was a massive backlash, of course from

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Speaker 1: the right. So just to give a little bit more

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Speaker 1: background on the photo. The most widely accepted theory is

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Speaker 1: that it's George Mendonza and Greta zimmer Friedman, and she

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Speaker 1: her account of things is that like, while that looks

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Speaker 1: like it could be confused as like a classy kiss

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Speaker 1: from like you know, a fella gal, yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: in fact a headlock. And like she he just walked up,

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Speaker 1: grabbed her, kissed her. And this was like happening kind

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Speaker 1: of all over the city, which is also why the

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Speaker 1: it's it's gotten this wider sort of reconsiderate reconsideration because

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Speaker 1: there was like on that day sailors just running around

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Speaker 1: like you know, kissing, groping and like assaulting women and

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Speaker 1: even and like young girls and like fighting the cops

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Speaker 1: to fight the cops, like tried to step in, they

626
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Speaker 1: would like fight the cops. So it's just this like

627
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Speaker 1: horrifying event that is kind of captured in this photo

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Speaker 1: that people have just sort of romanticized over the years.

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Speaker 1: The VA was like.

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Speaker 10: Maybe we want to not not do that, maybe not,

631
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Speaker 10: And of course the right has freaked out, so Jesse

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Speaker 10: Waters of course had to weigh in, and it's just

633
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Speaker 10: the wilder shit I mean it seems like it's a

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Speaker 10: clip from mad Men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about a photo that is just with

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Speaker 2: the history of it, because when you talk to the

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Speaker 2: people involved, like the guy just came up and kissed me, Okay,

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00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: here we go is does.

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Speaker 1: That look non consensual to you.

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Speaker 2: Julie, she doesn't seem to be fighting it.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, it's fine.

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Speaker 2: She looks into.

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Speaker 3: It, look at her hands.

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Speaker 6: It's like limped out. She's like, take me right.

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Speaker 1: And she was there when the sisters were returning from war.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what did she expect? I mean, he's an America.

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Speaker 2: Could I bet you that's not only.

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Speaker 6: She paid him back with oh wow hah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a footnote in that actual photo. His wife

650
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Speaker 2: is in the background, right, like girl girlfriend. Yeah, his

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Speaker 2: girlfriend that you're going to is in the background of

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Speaker 2: that photo.

653
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: Like what the is it?

654
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: Okay? George, and I love that the somehow they're they're

655
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: trying to forensic analysis on a still photo. Truly, uh again,

656
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: Like because I think all of it leads back to

657
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: how especially World War two is like treated as this,

658
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: like like the one time it's okay to fucking do war,

659
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 2: Like that's the good one it's the it's the clean war,

660
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: it's the good war. And I think anything that begins

661
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: to to pick that apart, of course, they're going to

662
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: begin to freak out because then that opens up a

663
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: larger discussion of what is armed conflict and what's its

664
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: place in our in our world.

665
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

666
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 6: I also think it's just part of like the inability

667
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 6: to reimagine our symbols, to like look at the symbols

668
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 6: that we that like that the country is kind of

669
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 6: built on and actually like think what's really going on here?

670
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 6: What's the what are you know? And so it's just

671
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 6: a kind of like it's the same thing that's happening

672
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 6: in the last several years with monuments, like what does

673
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 6: it really mean to like lift these images up and

674
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: these you know, frozen moments in time. But we have

675
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 6: to we have to do that work, you know.

676
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, truly, and then again we see the resistance

677
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: to it, which is to completely be like, no, Stonewall

678
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 2: Jackson was a good man. He was and he was

679
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: just he was merely on the side of of you know,

680
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: business and commerce.

681
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 7: It has nothing to do with with with with slavery

682
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 7: or white supreme Oh gosh, Like why do we have

683
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 7: to begin opening this candle worms and a lot of

684
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 7: people like I think she was even saying, She's like,

685
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 7: my hand was down there because I was being careful

686
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 7: about my skirt.

687
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: Trying to kiss my skirt from going up.

688
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, not because I was swooning that some man just

689
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: grabbed me on the street and kissed me on the mouth. Yeah,

690
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 2: and it was just wild too, how like like for

691
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 2: the anniversary that they tried, they made them repose that

692
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: for that photo like in the eighties.

693
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, holy nineteen eighty. But anyways, so VA officials like

694
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: who should maybe be taking things like this very seriously,

695
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: are now being like that that was an error. We

696
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: actually didn't mean to send that memo. You weren't supposed

697
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: to get that, which is especially galling because yeah, the whoops,

698
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: that was actually we didn't even mean to send. Sorry,

699
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to hit.

700
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: Some disregard my last dam disregard.

701
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: Didn't mean to hit sent. But yeah, the VA, you

702
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: would they would want to be cleaning up their image

703
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: right now, considering that they're hot off the heels of

704
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: a scandal in which a whistleblower prompted an investigation into

705
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: widespread sexual harassment via Secretary Dennis McDonough, the guy who

706
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: so vehement ly wants to keep the photo, was specifically

707
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: accused of helping to shield allegations from the public and

708
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: congressional scrutiny. So yeah, that maybe was why they initially

709
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: made the right decision, but it's apparently not not going

710
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: to change how much. They're just going to keep their

711
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: fucking head down and yeah.

712
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: Wow too, that's the least she could do. These guys

713
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: just got back from fighting war. I think the real

714
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: story is they were in the street because they thought

715
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 2: they were about to be shipped off for the full

716
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: scale land invasion of Japan.

717
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they found out that and.

718
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: Then they weren't, so they're like, oh great, yeah, we

719
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: don't have to anymore. It's just like, yeah, there's just

720
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: so many elements to it that like, yeah, it's interesting

721
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: how we've enshrined that image, especially to be sort of

722
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: like this like this wholesome, like being like and this

723
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: is the wholesome punctuation after we've dropped Adam bombs on civilians.

724
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, but then the minute that that wholesomeness is questioned,

725
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 6: it's like the language just becomes rapey. It's like the

726
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 6: way that it was just like like a what's the problem?

727
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: Look at her, body, lang, she's asking for she she's

728
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: loving it.

729
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Look at us exactly. I mean, that's not all she did?

730
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: What what?

731
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: Holy shit? For real? Yeah? Just the version of events

732
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: that Jesse Waters was setting up is that like, so

733
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: that's the day that Japan surrendered and those guys immediately

734
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: got home, like Japan surrendered and then they just came

735
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: home from what they were.

736
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: Acted back Yeah hot damn yeah, and they and they

737
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: may have fought or whatever, but again it's just like

738
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: this weird logic too that suddenly that they had to

739
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: be like, okay, well if she didn't like it, then

740
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 3: the next thing to way to justify it is that

741
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 3: people who have fought in a war have carte blanche

742
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: to do whatever they want.

743
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: Body Yeah, sounds like a good policy, guys.

744
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we expect nothing less from Jesse Waters. I mean, like.

745
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Jesus are truly really yeah, thoroughly fascist. But in this case,

746
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: like I do feel like they're probably I don't know,

747
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: like I feel like a lot of Americans are just

748
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: like don't take that one from me. Come on, that's

749
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: that's right, said, I've seen that postcard before. Don't make

750
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: me change my mind about it. Right, Yeah, it was

751
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: in a dang Coke commercial.

752
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: I feel like a recreation. I mean that thing has

753
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: been like that brain Yeah, yeah, no, truly, Yeah, just

754
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: let it go. Yeah, I mean yeah, mclet your point

755
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 2: about just the imental the amount of like neural energy

756
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: it takes to be like, can I rewire my brain

757
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: to see this in a different way without it being

758
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: sort of like being the embodiment of the sanctity of

759
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: World War two? Right, it's very tough for people, and

760
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: I'm sure like especially for like these like Americans, Like,

761
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: but my grandpa was like one of those guys like yeah,

762
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: and he may have been a fucking freak too.

763
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: My grandpa was kissing gals and they liked it. Okay, Yeah,

764
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come

765
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: back and talk about music in the hospital. We'll be

766
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: right back and we're back.

767
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: We're back, We're back. Okay.

768
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: Let's see. So there's a story I think we covered

769
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: it on this show. I know it for some reason,

770
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: but about how like lighting in hospitals has been reevaluated

771
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: because for so long it was just putting people off

772
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: their circadian rhythm, and like sleep is such an important

773
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: part of the body being able to heal itself. So

774
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: there's been a whole rethinking of lighting in some hospitals,

775
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: like very like you know, progressive ones, but like to

776
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 1: try and give people as much sleep as possible when

777
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: they're healing when they're in.

778
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: Hospital, yes, convalescing. But people are.

779
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Also pointing out like sounds, the soundscape of a hospital

780
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: is super annoying. Yeah, you know, alarms sounding on various devices,

781
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: just it sounds like a fucking casino, like a death

782
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: casino in there. It's just deeps loops like ringing, and

783
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: if you've ever been in there, like with a loved one,

784
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: it's fucking super stressful and like oh yeah yeah, Like

785
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: I can still remember the sound of like an alarm

786
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: that went off when like during the birth of our

787
00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: first child. That was like terrifying, and like it's still

788
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: like yeah, So I feel like everybody has those experiences.

789
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: People who work at hospitals, like they they hear those

790
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: sounds in the shower, like in their sleep, wake up

791
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: hearing those sounds.

792
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: It's like the same thing when people get like the

793
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: phantom like phone vibration in their pocket. Yeah you know

794
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like did it be And you're like, no, dude,

795
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: you're just so used to it that like sometimes you're

796
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: just getting the phantom ones that your brain's like I

797
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: think maybe maybe people have.

798
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: That with slack. I'm so glad that we're not like

799
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: a overly slack bist company.

800
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: Like I think it's slack.

801
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: I think it's like a little like kind of hollow

802
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: coconut knock is the thing that I've heard.

803
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah. Yeah, Like like

804
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: if you're playing a drum kit made of pistachio shells

805
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: or something, the sound, Yeah, pistachio drum kit, pistasio.

806
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 6: Kit would just make a good shaker.

807
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, exactly.

808
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 1: If you were a tiny little like cockroach playing a

809
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: pistachio drum kit maybe, yeah, like then that would be

810
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: base for you.

811
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, playing times to plaint Tom Sawyer by rush on there.

812
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, so the on the presence of beeping alarms

813
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: in hospitals is actually detrimental not just to the staff

814
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: but also to the patients who can't properly rest with

815
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: all the noises. And also it just like blends into

816
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: this like fog of sound that makes it harder for

817
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: people who work at the hospital to like recognize and

818
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: be aware of because there's just so many of them. Apparently,

819
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: like the alarms are only actually accurate like fifteen percent

820
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: of the time. Irrelevant, yeah, relevant, fifteen percent of the time.

821
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, the desensitization to beeps created by alarm fatigue

822
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: led to quote a reported five hundred and sixty six

823
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: alarm related deaths between two thousand and five and twenty ten,

824
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: according to the FDA. And I mean, I'm sure that's

825
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: not counting every single one of them, right, Yeah.

826
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: But that's interesting that they're saying, like the solution is

827
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: to have something more melodic or more musical or more

828
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: quote percussive with his quote short bursts of high frequency

829
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: energy like a xylophon's ping. But I guess in a

830
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: study show that that was just like actually it was

831
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more effective than just a which I

832
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 2: guess I get.

833
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: Right, Like all of the current soundscape comes from a

834
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: time when you had machines that could like you're like,

835
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna put this tiny little thing on

836
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: it sound maker thing on the machine, and that it

837
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: can make one sound but now we're at a place

838
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: where you don't you don't need that, like you can you.

839
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: Could play Tom Sawyer by Rush there really.

840
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Is that like patient is dying.

841
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's just kind of hard, you know,

842
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: because I feel like melody is so fun. I think

843
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: what I think Quincy Jones said, melody is the voice

844
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: of God or whatever. So to put that in like

845
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: a medical context, I mean, I don't know, Like I

846
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you want to create a bad connotation

847
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: or something when suddenly something's like standing alive and you're like, oh, ship,

848
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: like someone's.

849
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 6: Crashing, but you have you could you could like here's

850
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 6: the thing I would be worried about is that they

851
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 6: would turn hospital sounds into like hold music, you know

852
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 6: how like hold. Like if you give a company, oh,

853
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 6: that's like the so who's gonna make it?

854
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: Right?

855
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 6: You give a company like the ability to like decide

856
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 6: about music, it's gonna be something even more awful. Like

857
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 6: you could actually you could actually like commission some musicians

858
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 6: to collaborate with like like acousticians and doctors, Yeah, and

859
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 6: make something together that would be kind of interesting.

860
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: That would be super interesting. It would create jobs, you

861
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: could have like musicians like DJs. You know how many

862
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: out of work DJs they're about to be, Like an

863
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: entire generation wanted to be DJs, like you. Just every

864
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: intensive care unit has a DJ. That's just like channeling

865
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: the information to like create like a sound scape that

866
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: alerts everybody.

867
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: But then people are turning up too much and yeah,

868
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: not doing their job.

869
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: But I still don't see like as a musician, I

870
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 6: still don't see how you would like, there's no way

871
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 6: for it to not be a cacophony because it's so

872
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 6: many people, it's so many different kinds of information. It's

873
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 6: it's it's like there's the rhythmic ad Like you can't

874
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 6: actually do it rhythmically because you would be having so

875
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 6: many rhythms on top of each other.

876
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, start probably having polly.

877
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 6: But there's definitely a way to make better sounds. Just

878
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 6: like I was thinking, like a glockenspiel. You know how

879
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: nice those are? It was just like people love those.

880
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: You just wait, which.

881
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 6: You talked about a xylophone. It's kind of like a xylophone,

882
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 6: but it's much but it's much more like it gets

883
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 6: your attention.

884
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,479
Speaker 1: But it's sler right, that makes sense.

885
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that.

886
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: So they have studied this and they said that sounds

887
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: with percussive timber, many of which contain short bursts of

888
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: high frequency energy, such as wineglasses clinking or xylophones, are

889
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: actually much better for getting people's attention, and they stand

890
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: out from like things that are loud flat tones that

891
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: lack high frequency components, like a reversing trucks beep.

892
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: I like that.

893
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: That's the example of the thing that doesn't get our attention,

894
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: the reversing drugs. I think you'd want to fucking like

895
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: not like lock that one in the thing that's like

896
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna could just like back over an entire family of humans.

897
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 2: I feel like that, don't mess with that one. You know,

898
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: we've all accepted we do know what that is. Yeah,

899
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: we're like, okay, that's that's something backing up. But I

900
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: think maybe we have the space to do that. And like,

901
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: to your point, it sounds like McLean, like there are

902
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: artists musicians that have been enlisted to like help make

903
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: things sound better.

904
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yoko k Sen in twenty seventeen, an electronic musician

905
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: who worked with healthcare companies to revamp the soundscapes and

906
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 1: hospitals and design new sounds for at home cardiac monitors.

907
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: Even back in the eighties, people were experimenting with this.

908
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: One guy came up with an elaborate series of melodies

909
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: that would signal different patient problems, but doctors and nurses

910
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: ultimately found it confusing. Like we kind of suspected, right,

911
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: this is also like just as synthpop was kind of

912
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: becoming popular, so I'm assuming there was like a lot

913
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: of just a lot of synth. It's a little synth

914
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: heavy for me.

915
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: It's like, does it have to be rocket by Herbie Hancock? Like, okay, well, yeah,

916
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: that that might be a little bit tough. It's like, wait,

917
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: what does that mean again, Beverly Hills, someone's axel lead.

918
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that idea was rejected by the International Organization

919
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: for Standardization, But then they okayed another musical strategy with

920
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 1: alarms inspired by the NBC chime the Yoe oh chant

921
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: from Wizard of Oz And then it was like a disaster. Yeah,

922
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: they ended up having to come back and be like,

923
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: so the thing we tried while our head was in

924
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: the right place, these sounds that we chose were quote

925
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: basically terrible, basically terrible voice, that terrible is such a

926
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: great thing to say about the massive decision that you

927
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: went with. We ultimately went with some sounds that were

928
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: basically terrible, But I don't know like that we This

929
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: kind of came up recently when we were talking about

930
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: how like the problem that car companies are having to

931
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: solve with you know, electric vehicles being too silent and

932
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: therefore dangerous for people who don't hear them coming. And

933
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: so they have been working with internal engineers, but also

934
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: film scorers and you.

935
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: Know composers, Yeah, composers.

936
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been working with composers from the world of

937
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: film to like try and create unique sound signatures so

938
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: that it makes sense to me that you would do

939
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: that to hospitals, right, I mean you.

940
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 2: Could do it.

941
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 6: Like thinking about the way a space sounds is just

942
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 6: a good thing, Like it is a less high stakes environment.

943
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 6: But have you ever been to a restaurant and it's

944
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 6: so loud just from people talking that you can't actually

945
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 6: hear the person in front of you. It's like because

946
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 6: they haven't thought at all about how sound is going

947
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 6: to carry in that space, and then they created an

948
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 6: experience where you're like, actually, I want to get out,

949
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 6: or maybe they're trying to make you get out quickly

950
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 6: because they want to turn around, you know, turn over tables. Yeah, So,

951
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 6: like there's so much room to think about the way

952
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,720
Speaker 6: that sound works in our spaces and actually make life

953
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 6: more pleasant and save hundreds of lives, like like they're

954
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 6: saying in that report.

955
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: Because it might not just be like, well, you know,

956
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: the thing is, we just got to start using ring

957
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: tones like we used to back in the day. Like

958
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: this one can play like My Humps by Black Eyed Peas,

959
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: and then this one can play I'm a Hustler by Cassidy,

960
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: remember that one feature in jay Z. Like that's not

961
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: gonna like versus Tom Sawyer, but like what sonically makes

962
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: sense rather than like just beeps and boom, you know,

963
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: like is there another way that doesn't necessarily to be music,

964
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 2: But we are thinking of what the sound can be

965
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 2: that cuts through, that stands out, that is clinically relevant,

966
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 2: I think was the term that they were using.

967
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: One of the best like examples of sound design that

968
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: I've ever experienced in like a physical setting was when

969
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: we were in the war, like the birthward for our children,

970
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: and they had like this little like harpsichord that played

971
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: basically every time a new human dropped, like every time

972
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: they're a new baby, they would just like play this

973
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: thing and you would be like, ah, a new new

974
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: soul like dropped like a like a Looney Tumbes thing

975
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: was like like a yeah, yeah, like a really gentle

976
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: harp sound, and that was like, hey, we just just

977
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: burst another one.

978
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: Right, that's so wonderful.

979
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really nice.

980
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 6: It's like a it's almost like a community building thing

981
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 6: or like a hate you can do it too, or

982
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 6: like yeah, you know, it's it's an encouragement.

983
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,959
Speaker 1: We do this all the time.

984
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is one of the most new baby yeah,

985
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: like yah, don't do that.

986
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: And then on the other end, like if they went

987
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: to an ICU, every time someone dies, they get the

988
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: Hanshimmer like whoah from the inception.

989
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: To yeah right, which you could also do harp too,

990
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: you know, just to show that it's it's all just

991
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: that in reverse with maybe like some whispering in reverse,

992
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: or just to take away that sort of connotation that

993
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: it's still like it's peaceful, you know.

994
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: It is like I have had the thought multiple times

995
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: that like it's kind of weird that chances are the

996
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: last place that you are going to be alive is

997
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: in a hospital where it sounds where it's like bathed

998
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: in fluorescent lighting and sounds like a casino twenty four

999
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: hours a day. Like that's kind of a weird way

1000
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: to go out, but feels like it's like kind of

1001
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 1: the place that most people do experience their last time

1002
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: on Earth. So it would be if you could just

1003
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: like kind of fix the vibes a little bit.

1004
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, come on, hospital, let's figure it out. Vibes

1005
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 2: are fucking off in here. The fucked up this cocophonic

1006
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: I hate it.

1007
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: We got so many great musicians in this world. I'm

1008
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: just saying, we got one of them on this show.

1009
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: Like let's uh, let's go, let's get.

1010
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: Got any pitch. What would you do for instead of

1011
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 2: a beep like Lee? What do you think? Like, what's

1012
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: what do you think?

1013
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, there's so many sounds that seem

1014
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 6: to me, like like if you think about it, the

1015
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 6: heartbeat monitor where it's like it beeps in every it's

1016
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 6: like a regular thing that I don't understand why that's necessary,

1017
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 6: Like why is it it should be that it beeps

1018
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: when it's irregular? Like here's something to pay attention to, right,

1019
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 6: So I would just cut out all first thing I

1020
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 6: would do is just cut out everything that is not

1021
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 6: giving me that information that that's not giving me relevant information, right,

1022
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 6: because it's not like the nurses in there listening to it.

1023
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 6: I'm the one listening to it. That makes no sense

1024
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 6: to me. So I would just cut a bunch of

1025
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 6: stuff that was, you know, or somebody tell me why

1026
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 6: is it necessary? And maybe I'm just not seeing the

1027
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 6: whole picture. That's possible, but then I think, I mean,

1028
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 6: I would do things in high registers like trumpets, you

1029
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 6: know those cut a lot right, nothing in any base tones.

1030
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: But you could also have a thing where you could

1031
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 6: kind of choose, you know, like if you were a

1032
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 6: doctor and you're like, these are the sounds that like

1033
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 6: there's some kind of level of personalization, you could see it.

1034
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, in too, you know, like I only know this.

1035
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 2: I only respond to the sound of a digital cow

1036
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: bell on a eight to oho eight. That's just all

1037
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: of that.

1038
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 6: Just turn it into that or like or like people

1039
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 6: like I could see a lot of light information like

1040
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 6: have you ever seen like how fire alarms also flash

1041
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 6: right for people who are hearing impaired. That's also vary.

1042
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 6: That we're such visual people, that should also happen, like, okay,

1043
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 6: there's a code blue, I want a visual flashing bite

1044
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 6: you know.

1045
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh, we got we got work to do.

1046
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: The heartbeat monitor is pretty iconic, but it's had a

1047
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: good like the you know, it's a it's a sound

1048
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: that has really done a good job. I don't I

1049
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: don't want to just dismiss it out of hand. It's

1050
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: it's been putting in great work for many years. But yeah, yeah,

1051
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean the sound of a flat line, I mean nothing, Yeah,

1052
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: that's just yeah, that's that's a little alarming, you know.

1053
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

1054
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: Like that's when the like heart rate begins to like

1055
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 2: like rise rapidly or decline rapidly, then like give that

1056
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: a sound like to mcleat's point, But again, I'm not

1057
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: a cardiologist. I'm not a medical professional. I'm somebody who

1058
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: just like.

1059
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Yourself.

1060
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, my license was taken away, but that's because this

1061
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: the state board is fucking ran by a bunch of

1062
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: losers who don't know what they're.

1063
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: Doing, run by satan, just like the industry. Well, mclee,

1064
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where

1065
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

1066
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 2: Well?

1067
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 6: I got a new album dropping today, y'all, so hey,

1068
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 6: find me in all the places Mattley music dot com.

1069
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 6: That's also all my handles m E K L I

1070
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 6: T Music. Yes, yes, y'all, it's called Eto Blue, the

1071
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 6: new EP amazing.

1072
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: And is there a work of media that you've been

1073
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: enjoying besides your new album?

1074
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 6: I really enjoyed the uh Mister and Missus Smith on

1075
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 6: Amazon Prime the Donald Blover did it was really good?

1076
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: It's really good.

1077
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a blast.

1078
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: Miles. Where can people find you? What's working media you've

1079
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: been enjoying?

1080
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1081
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: Find me on the app based platforms at Miles of

1082
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 2: Gray Fine Jack and I on.

1083
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Speaker 11: The basketball podcast Find yeah, Josh Gondolman was what a

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Speaker 11: that guy telling you absolutely guy freak a freak free,

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Speaker 11: the nicest guy I've ever met.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then also find me on four twenty Day

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Speaker 2: Fiance talking about ninety day Fiance. Is there a tweet

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Speaker 2: I liked? Yeah, there's a couple. One is from at

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Speaker 2: j towrch ten thirty one. It says reading way above

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Speaker 2: my grade level did not get me as far in

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Speaker 2: life as I had hoped. Yeah, look it levels out

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Speaker 2: at a certain point. And then another one is like,

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Speaker 2: this is really only kind of funny, I think to

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Speaker 2: basketball fans, you know how, like in a broadcast, you'll

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Speaker 2: see the referee come over to the scorge table to

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Speaker 2: like explain what's going on, like, okay, were the plays

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Speaker 2: under review or whatever? Who is this? This is Jason

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Speaker 2: Gallagher at jg A four to one a g h

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Speaker 2: e R posted a picture that with a ref at

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Speaker 2: the scores table but looking down the camera and says, hey,

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Speaker 2: can I do a titos and soda with extra line

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Speaker 2: and I'll just close it out. I appreciate you broke

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Speaker 2: it like that bartender like you at the bar. He's

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Speaker 2: also got his arms on display. He's really like the triceps.

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Speaker 2: You know, y'all know what's up.

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Speaker 1: A couple tweets I've been enjoying Andrew oh at the Overdall,

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Speaker 1: who I think has been on this podcast. Andrew Overdal

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Speaker 1: tweeted me to my dogs, I'm gonna feed you the

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Speaker 1: best food I can so you can live such long,

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Speaker 1: healthy and happy lives. Me to me another red baron

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Speaker 1: pizza for you, fuck face. And then Zach Dunn tweeted, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like west Wing all right, west Wing on the

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Speaker 1: ground with my friends. It's just cute west Wing. I

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Speaker 1: will west Wing. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O Brian you can find us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily

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Speaker 1: Zeiguist dot com. Worry post episode codes and our footnote

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Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we

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Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles is the song you think

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Speaker 1: people might I.

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Speaker 2: Think just ride out on the well. See the song

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Speaker 2: that is out from the album Etial Blue is. I

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Speaker 2: was listening to it, So we'll go off to the

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Speaker 2: titular track from mclet eto Blue. The track is really dope.

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Speaker 2: I love the piano playing like you can you feel

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Speaker 2: the Ethiopian this, you know, just in the scales that

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Speaker 2: are being used and the saxophone and everything. It's just

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Speaker 2: for my lovers of music from across the world. I

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Speaker 2: think this is a really dope track for you to

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Speaker 2: get into and if you're not expand your horizons with

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Speaker 2: the work of mcleat. So this is etial Blue from mcleat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we will link off to that in the footnote.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Zeitgeist does a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us this week. Back this weekend with you know,

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Speaker 1: some highlights from this week's shows, and then back on

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Speaker 1: Monday to tell you what is trending and we will

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Speaker 1: have an expert on on Tuesday. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you abut then bye.

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Speaker 2: Hey, And if you're an Austin hit us up.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, we'll be in Austin for Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for Sunday. We'll hey, you're hearing this. We're in

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Speaker 2: Austin on Sunday and a little bit Monday. Where should

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Speaker 2: I get a sandwich? Let me know, Austin' hiking? All right,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you that Bye bye,