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Speaker 1: Where the meeting with Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump is ongoing,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get everybody. There was a spray, as they.

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Speaker 1: Call it, and one when Putin and Trump meant on

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Speaker 1: negotiation like a chess game. The flyover was what three

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Speaker 3: Will you commit not telling anywhere to do?

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Speaker 2: Why is your president trust your word?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, those people give me a headache. That

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Speaker 1: Because I'm whatever it is, what it is anyway, joining

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Speaker 1: us now. Ambassador of Nathan Sales, he served in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a whole interesting side note to all that

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Speaker 3: Think that's exactly right. Why is Putin prepared to talk now?

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Speaker 2: Thoughts on all of this One hundred percent Sean.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're not getting a lot of information right now.

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Speaker 1: the President did put a pause on terifs with China.

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Speaker 1: Why do I suspect that part of that negotiation is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it. And

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Speaker 5: Thank you for having me Sean. This is a great

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Speaker 5: And yeah, John, I just can't say enough that you

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna tell you're gonna make jelly. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when I'm having some really crappy days because I'm in

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Speaker 1: the public eye, I'm like dreaming of doing you know,

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Speaker 1: having anonymity and doing just that.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like the most appealing thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes I questioned myself and in terms

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Speaker 1: of man, why am I?

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Speaker 2: Why am I killing myself?

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Speaker 1: I could be living on a ranch and raising cattle

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Speaker 1: and doing fishing and doing a little bit of hunting

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Speaker 1: and making a little bit of jelly.

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Speaker 2: Kind of sounds cool to me. Those would be the

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Speaker 2: most politically informed cows in all of the world. Did

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Speaker 2: you hear what she said?

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Speaker 1: Those would be the most politically informed cows in the world,

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Speaker 1: and fish and raspberries, arguing no, but I mean, and

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Speaker 1: it really does.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you something.

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Speaker 1: One of the worst things if you grow up in

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Speaker 1: suburbia and the only thing you know is to buy

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Speaker 1: that come from?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, people raised the chickens, they raised, you know,

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Speaker 1: the pigs, they raised the cattle. They they go fishing,

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Speaker 1: they you know, they do the farming, they do the

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Speaker 1: harvest thing, they do all the hard work.

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Speaker 2: They feed the entire world. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just admire people that do all these great things.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm so obsessed with these shows in Alaska.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with them. I can't imagine myself though, living

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Speaker 1: off the grid.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't. Linda doesn't even know what living off the

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Speaker 2: grid means me. No, but I admit that. I just

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Speaker 2: said that. This morning. We have this great driver, Tom Gaffney,

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Speaker 2: and Tom and Blair and.

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Speaker 5: I were talking about it and I was like, He's like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Sean loves to live off the grid.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, bro, I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 2: Actually mental yesterday I thought I met you had like nothing.

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Speaker 2: But it turns out I was wrong. Turns out you're

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Speaker 2: wrong again. Oh wait, you want to make you want

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Speaker 2: to make a rejoinder out.

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Speaker 1: Of that one though, Drew, Listen, you're very kind. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, and thank you for your hospitality. I've really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed my time here in Alaska. I can't believe Alaska

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Speaker 1: is the fiftieth state I've been to. And I will

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Speaker 1: tell you I'm coming back, God willing, if God lets

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Speaker 1: me live long enough, I'm coming back just to have fun.

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Speaker 1: Eight ninety four one, Sean, if you want to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the program, Scott, he's holding down the

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Speaker 1: fort in my free state of Florida.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Scott? How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm good, mister Sean? How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, sir? What's going on?

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Speaker 6: I was wondering to get your opinion and your thoughts

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Speaker 6: on if this doesn't go good today with Trump and

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Speaker 6: touton if Trump recalls soldiers that aren't out of the

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Speaker 6: army within six years, that have not been medically discharged

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Speaker 6: or dishonorably discharged, if he recalls them.

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Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand the question. Ask me again.

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Speaker 3: I was just.

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Speaker 6: Wondering your thoughts and opinions on if this goes sideways

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Speaker 6: the summit today, if Trump recalls soldiers that haven't been

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Speaker 6: out of the military within six years to send them

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Speaker 6: overseas to try to combat what Putin's doing over there

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Speaker 6: and put feet on.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think those are the severe consequences

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Speaker 1: at all. You know the Trump doctorn Now I'm going

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Speaker 1: to ask the President about this tonight because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of misunderstanding about the Trump doctrine. The big part

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Speaker 1: of it is no forever worse. The last thing America

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Speaker 1: wants or needs is a war with Russia.

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Speaker 2: We don't need that crap.

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Speaker 1: And I think what no forever war means is it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean isolationism, as some quote so called conservatives are

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Speaker 1: are describing it to people. You know, because he did

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Speaker 1: take out Solamani and Beg Daddy dropped the mother of

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Speaker 1: all bombs in Afghanistan, and he did take out the

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Speaker 1: Isis Caliphate, and he did take out Iranian nuclear sites.

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Speaker 1: That's not isolationism. And here we are in Alaska and

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Speaker 1: he's trying to make peace in Europe. You know what,

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Speaker 1: God bless him, and I pray that we are successful here.

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Speaker 1: We'll know more when I interview President Trump for Fox

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Speaker 1: Tonight on the Fox News Channel.

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Speaker 2: Hannday nine Easter. We'll continue