1 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Psychology of Your Twenties, 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk through some of the big 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: life changes and transitions of our twenties and what they 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: mean for our psychology. Hello everybody, Welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of the Psychology of Your Twenties. 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: New listeners, old listeners, it's so great to have you here. 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in. Each week, we like to 8 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: break down some kind of event or experience or situation 9 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: that we go through in our twenties and provide a 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: bit of a psychological explanation to hopefully provide those of 11 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: us who are listening who are going through this with 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: some comfort and with some education as well. So today 13 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about something a bit serious, but 14 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: something I think is quite universal during this decade of life, 15 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: and that's feeling unhappy. That's feeling that things aren't going 16 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: particularly well, feeling a bit blue, feeling a bit down. 17 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: I think our twenties are such a tumultuous decade, but 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: they're also such an amazing decade. And sometimes I don't 19 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: know if you've had this experience, I definitely we look 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: around at our lives and everything is going according to plan. 21 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Everything is going perfect. We have an amazing family, we 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: have friends, we have a partner, we have a roof 23 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: over our head, so many things to be grateful for. 24 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: You know, maybe you've have your dream job, you've gotten 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: into your dream course. Everything is perfect, and yet we 26 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: just don't feel happy. Something is wrong. Even though we 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: have everything that people see as indicators of happiness and 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: indicators of success, something just doesn't feel quite right. I 29 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: think that is such a common shared experience of those 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: of us who are in our twenties right now, and 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: often what a company is that feeling, that feeling that 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: we're not happy despite having every reason to be, is 33 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: a sense of guilt and shame for not being grateful enough, 34 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: a sense of confusion. You know what's wrong with me 35 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: that I can't fully appreciate and be in the present 36 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and feel grateful and enjoy this period and this decade 37 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: of my life. But I think it's a really common experience, 38 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: one that's not spoken about enough to have periods of 39 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: really intense unhappiness. So if that is you, I really 40 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: hope that this episode allows us to kind of break 41 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: down some of the stigma and some of the confusion 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: and the ambiguity around how normal it is to go 43 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: through periods like this and kind of break away from 44 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: that sense of guilt and shame that accompanies it. I 45 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: think we can't always control our emotional reactions and our 46 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: emotional state, the same way that we can't always control 47 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: our external world, the external stresses and expectations that are 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: placed that are placed on us. So for those of 49 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: us who are asking that very question right now, why 50 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: am I not happy? This episode is for you to 51 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: feel hopefully a little bit less alone. If you're feeling 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: a bit sad, a bit blue, a bit down, and 53 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: looking for an explanation, but also looking for some encouragement, 54 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: I think you've come to the right place. We can 55 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: hopefully share a moment and be a little bit miserable together, 56 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: but then also think about what's next and how to 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: get out of this rut. I think the mission of 58 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: this show from day one has been to provide people 59 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: like myself who are in their twenties with the space 60 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: for vulnerability to kind of share the good, the bad, 61 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: the ugly of this decade. And I've always tried to 62 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: keep it quite vulnerable. I think, if we're being honest 63 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: right now, I'm definitely going through this. I'm asking myself 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: this question of like, why am I not happy? Why 65 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: am I not happy like I like I should be. 66 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: I have every single thing that I want. You know, 67 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: this show, this podcast is doing so well. I get 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: so many amazing, beautiful messages from people like yourself, from 69 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: my listeners telling me how much they enjoy it, feeling 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: like they have a sense of community. I feel so grateful. 71 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: You know, I've got a great job, I have the 72 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: best relationships with my friends and my family that I've 73 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: ever had. I feel so at peace, but there are 74 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: still these really you know, sad moments where nothing makes 75 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: me happy. Something feels like it's missing. The excitement of life, 76 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: and the excitement of this like really amazing moment just 77 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: isn't really sinking in, and it's kind of an awful feeling. 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: I will admit I'm kind of struggling at the moment, 79 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there are many of those of you 80 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: who are out there who are listening to this who 81 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: are struggling as well. I think this episode is really 82 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's really about having a discussion about this, 83 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: normalizing this experience, and it provides me with this weird 84 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: opportunity where I get to kind of say my say 85 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: to you what I would want to say to myself, 86 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: the things that would bring me comfort, the things that 87 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: would make me feel better. So I'm hoping that you're 88 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: able to relate to what we're going to talk about today, 89 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: some of the psychological explanations, the social, the cultural, the 90 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: biological explanations for why we're unhappy. So let's talk about it. 91 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about what it feels like when everything is 92 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: going right, but we still can't seem to really appreciate 93 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: that moment. That's what we're going to discuss today. Why 94 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: do we find ourselves in periods of unhappiness or so 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: called depressive seasons, and what is the psychological explanation behind that. 96 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what it means to be happy, 97 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: what the definition of happiness is, why it's so subjective, 98 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, some of the biological and environmental and cultural 99 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: reasons why we might be experiencing a really depressive and 100 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: low period. But then also some of the ways that 101 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: we can kind of move on from that, some of 102 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: the ways that we can expand our horizons, expand our 103 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: vision in a healthy way, in a way that is 104 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: sustainable in a way that is validating of our emotions 105 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: and our experiences. We're all about vulnerability here, but we're 106 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: also all about growth. So if this is you, if 107 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: you relate to any of the things that I've talked about, 108 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: you're in the right place, strapping. I'm excited. Let's learn 109 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: some things. Let's be a little bit miserable, well, be 110 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: a little bit sad together today and hopefully come out 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the other end. So I think it's pretty appropriate to 112 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: begin this episode by talking about happiness and maybe even 113 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: talking about the definition of happiness. It's such an elusive 114 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: kind of emotional state, It's such an elusive word. I 115 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: think the thing that's really interesting about happiness is that 116 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: it's one of those weird phenomena when we only really 117 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: know it and can recognize happiness when we feel it, 118 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and we only really are conscious of it during its absence. 119 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, there are so many periods in life where 120 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, we're neither happy, we're neither sad, and we 121 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: don't really seem to think about it much. But it's 122 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: during those low points and during those really high points 123 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: that we're quite we're you know, happiness is really on 124 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: our minds and we're really thinking about it. I think 125 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: happiness is also really hard to create artificially. You know, 126 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: we might try through self care and exercise and eating 127 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: healthily and receiving physical touch and support and comfort from 128 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: our loved ones, and that's amazing, but sometimes we're in 129 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: such a state where that can only go so far. 130 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: And of course there are also so many unhealthy practices 131 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: that we also engage in sometimes, like impulse shopping and 132 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: alcohol and drugs and meaningless physical connection. And although we 133 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: know that those don't really create long term happiness, it 134 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: really does contribute to this understanding of, like this kind 135 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: of recognition that all of us really want to be happy, 136 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: and it's something that's really hard sometimes to get to. 137 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: So what exactly do we mean when we talk about happiness, 138 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: almost from a scientific perspective, what is you know, the 139 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,479 Speaker 1: science of happiness? There is so much I think, controversy 140 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and ambiguity and confusion around what does it really mean 141 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: to be happy? You know, is it the absence of sadness, 142 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: the absence of struggle, or does it mean you know, 143 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: a lot of pleasure or materialism and comfort. And this 144 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: is a debate that I think we haven't really gotten 145 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: to the bottom of and I don't think we ever will. 146 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: But let's talk about some ideas or definitions of happiness, 147 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: some of the conceptualizations of what it means to be 148 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote happy, before we jump into sadness 149 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: and unhappiness. If you think about it, I think the 150 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: subjective nature of happiness makes it so incredibly difficult to define. 151 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: That's kind of the problem. There have been so many 152 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: discussions throughout the centuries about what happiness really means because 153 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: it is such an elusive subject. You know, Aristotle had 154 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: this idea that happiness could be actually conceptualized or composed 155 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: of two different things. It wasn't just one feeling. It 156 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: was both pleasure and a sense of life that is 157 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: well lived. And we needed both of those, both immediate 158 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: pleasure and also a sense of purpose to be happy. 159 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I think that really kind of gets to the core 160 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: of what this feeling is. You know, we can have 161 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: all the pleasure that we want. We can have an 162 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: abundance of delicious food, and abundance of sex, and abundance 163 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: of static fe feelings and of happy experiences. But if 164 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day we go home and 165 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: we don't really have any ambition, we don't really know 166 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: where we're going. We have a sense of being lost 167 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: or of not having any purpose. It's hard to be happy, 168 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, without that. And it kind of goes the 169 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: same way. You know, if we have this really intense mission, 170 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: this thing that we're working towards, but we don't allow 171 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: ourselves to have those small pleasures throughout the day, it's 172 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: going to be pretty hard to be happy in that 173 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: instance as well. I think they both contribute equally. And 174 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: there's also that other element of happiness requires even a 175 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: deeper feeling of being safe and secure in order to 176 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: be achieved. I think when I think about happiness, I 177 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: often think about Maslow's hierarchy of needs. So for those 178 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: of you who don't know what this is, it's kind 179 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: of this. It's a theory more about motivation and what 180 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: motivates people to kind of self actualize and to become 181 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: their highest selves, but it also applies to happiness really 182 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: really well. So basically Maslow constructed this hierarchy and at 183 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: the bottom was our most simplistic basic needs, you know, 184 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: things like food and clothing and shelter, and then there 185 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: was safety, so things like job, security, being you know, 186 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: not threatened, not having this sense of impending doom, love 187 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: and belonging. You know, we need friendship, we need family. 188 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: And then then there was those kind of high top 189 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: of the tier components of happiness, esteem, and self actualization. 190 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: And only when we achieve those bottom components of the 191 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: hierarchy are we actually able to achieve self actualization, Are 192 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: we actually able to achieve a state in which we 193 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: feel completely secure and you know, completely happy within ourselves. 194 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, the needs lower down in the hierarchy must 195 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: be satisfied before we can attend to the needs that 196 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,359 Speaker 1: are higher up. This model, I think can explain why 197 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: my happiness can be so difficult to find and why 198 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: it is sometimes not just elusive but actually quite Yeah, 199 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: not just elusive, but actually quite difficult. You know, it's 200 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: really hard to be attending to every single aspect of 201 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: this day in and day out. I think sometimes we 202 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: also see happiness as material and as the physical contents 203 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: of our lives. We're satisfied when we have a good job, 204 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: when we have heaps of friends, a place where we 205 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: feel safe, and money to spend things and on things 206 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: that we want. I think that's quite a shallow version 207 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: of it. I would probably endeavor to say that people 208 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: who see happiness as just the material or kind of 209 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: visual aspects of their life are never going to be 210 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: able to maintain that happiness sustainably. But what happens when 211 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: you do have everything? You know? We've talked about these 212 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: different definitions of having vision and having passion and having 213 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: security and pleasure material items. What happens when you have 214 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: that all? When you survey your life and you realize that, 215 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, anyone else, any stranger, any 216 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: acquaintance looking in would think that you're the happiest person alive. 217 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 1: But you just don't feel that way, Like you just 218 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: can't say it. You just can't say it that way. 219 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: I think often when nothing external is going wrong, we 220 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: look for an internal explanation, often to do with an 221 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: irregularity with our neurotransmitters and our hormones, and we like 222 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: to kind of say that that is what's causing this 223 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: inexplicable sadness or a low period from a dopamine. In 224 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: a biological perspective, I think it's also important to say 225 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: here that being unhappy is not the same as depression. 226 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: I think that's a really important distinction. Unhappiness and moments 227 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: of sadness is very different to a diagnosed depressive disorder. 228 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: I think feeling sad as a natural reaction to situations 229 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: where we should feel emotional or upset. We should feel pain, 230 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: and that is completely normal. You know, without sadness, we 231 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to experience that, you know, the joys 232 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: of life. It's important to put things into perspective, but 233 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: it's also an important part of our brain and an 234 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: important part of our emotional spectrum to use. But much 235 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: like other emotions, sadness is temporary and it should fade 236 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: with time. But it becomes a problem when we find 237 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: ourselves in these prolonged periods of sadness that are really 238 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: difficult to get out of, and that's when we kind 239 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: of enter into a discussion of depression. It's a mental illness. 240 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: It's a long term mental illness that impairs how we 241 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: function in our day to day life and how we 242 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: function in society. It's not something that can be overcome 243 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: even when we try. It's not something to do often 244 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: with our circumstances. It's something a lot deeper, and I 245 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: think the difference between sadness and a depressive episode or 246 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: depression is that sadness can often be treated, you know. 247 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Sadness is an emotional state, whereas depression is a mental disorder, 248 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: and when it's left untreated, it can really really impact 249 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: on our life. You know, for those of us who 250 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: have experienced that, we often see this lack of interest 251 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: and enjoyment in the things that we love, you know, insomnia, 252 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: trouble eating, you feel really restless and really agitated and tired, 253 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: and this sense of worthlessness. It's a lot more than 254 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: just feeling really sad. And I think it's an important 255 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: distinction to make if we're going to talk about unhappiness, 256 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: and if you think your sadness and level of unhappiness 257 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: might be more serious than just a hard period or 258 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: a hard season of life. I do think it's important 259 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: to seek clinical help and to kind of reach out 260 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: to a more professional kind of networks. And it kind 261 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: of leads to this deeper discussion of why is it 262 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: that when everything's going right, we feel so sad? And 263 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: often we like to say that it's a chemical imbalance. 264 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: That's one kind of perspective, it's one explanation. It's often 265 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: said that depression kind of results from a chemical imbalance. 266 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Things in your brain just aren't kind of matching up right. 267 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: You don't have enough of what you need to feel happy. 268 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: But I think that that is quite a simplistic explanation. 269 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: Depression doesn't just spring from simply having too much or 270 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: too little of certain brain chemicals. There are many other causes, 271 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, external causes as well, and there are so 272 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: many forces in our lives that can kind of impact 273 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: us to go through periods of not just intense sadness, 274 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: but intense unhappiness, and chemicals are definitely involved. I think 275 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: sometimes if we're looking for an explanation, it can be 276 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: the right one. We need neurotransmitters and chemicals in our 277 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: brains to allow us to function, and when those chemicals 278 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: aren't at the right level, when they're not being released 279 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: at the right time or in the right amount, that's 280 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: when we can experience some really intense lows. There are 281 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: millions of chemical reactions that make up our minds and 282 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: make up our mood and our perceptions and how we 283 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: experience life. So sometimes if we are in a period 284 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: of really intense sadness and you're asking that question, that 285 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: question we're asking ourselves of why am I unhappy? It 286 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: could be a biological explanation. Sometimes it has nothing to 287 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: do with you. It has nothing to do with your outlook, 288 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: nothing to do with how hard you're trying, or all 289 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: the things you're putting in place. Neurotransmitters like dopamine and 290 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: serotonin just aren't where they should be in your brain. 291 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: And if you want to hear a little bit more 292 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: about that, I actually did an episode on antidepressants which 293 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: is really interesting and talks about this a little bit further. 294 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: But let's kind of move beyond that explanation and talk 295 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: about some of the environmental and social and cultural factors 296 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: that can create almost an inexplicable unhappiness in our day 297 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 1: to day lives. One of the big ones that I've 298 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: seen so often with my friends and with my family 299 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: that I think might be an explanation and could maybe 300 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: even point you in the right direction as to why 301 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: your feeling this way is just existential dread. There is 302 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: so much going on in the world right now, so 303 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: many events, so many things that are really really terrifying 304 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: and pose an existential threat to our existence as humans. 305 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, it can be really hard to wake up 306 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: each morning and feel positive and feel like what you're 307 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: doing with your life is making an impact. If we 308 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: think about climate change, if we think about, you know, 309 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: all the wars that are going on at the moment, 310 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: if we think about things that are happening in Iran 311 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: and all over the world, the injustices that kind of 312 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: plague our society, and it can really get us down. 313 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Existential dread. It's kind of about dread about the state 314 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: of the world and where you see yourself in it, 315 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes it can contribute to an existential crisis. And 316 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: that's this feeling of unease about the meaning of life, 317 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: about your purpose in life. You know, if everything else 318 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: is going to shit, you know, if the climate is 319 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of unable to be turned around, if humans are 320 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: creating these massive changes to our ecosystems and to our 321 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: way of life, what's the point of giving it? Fuck? 322 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: What's the point of trying? If life is kind of 323 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: inherently pointless, that can be a really dark place to 324 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: go to. And sometimes we don't even consciously realize when 325 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: the negativity we see in the media and from the 326 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: news is kind of getting into our brains and getting 327 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: into our outlook. I think that kind of links to 328 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: another point. Our lives have been fundamentally changed by things 329 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: like social media. It has allowed us to be connected 330 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: to the world in sometimes a really artificial and unnatural way. 331 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: And not only does it elevate the amazing things that 332 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: people are doing and elevates our ability to compare ourselves 333 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: to others, but it also elevates all the horrible things 334 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: that are going on in the world, and it creates 335 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: this really kind of inorganic second world for us to 336 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: live in where everything is heightened, everything is intense, And 337 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: that also has to do with comparison and this internal 338 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: comparison game we play. It can be really hard to 339 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: be happy with where you are and to be happy 340 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: with what you have when we're constantly playing this internal 341 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: comparison game and comparing our experiences and our emotional state 342 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: to others. When we're used to judging our happiness from 343 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: a point of relativity rather than from a place of 344 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: honesty and a place of looking inwards, that can really 345 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: do a number on our happiness and our sense of satisfaction. 346 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: And social media makes that so much easier to do. 347 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: Every day we're kind of forced to see these amazing 348 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: lives of our friends and celebrities and people that we know, 349 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: and it's a highlight reel. Like I don't need to 350 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: say that, I think everyone knows it's a highlight reel 351 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: of other people's lives and all the amazing things they're doing. 352 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: And it can be really easy to sit back at 353 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day and think, why is my 354 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: life not that perfect? Why don't I have this? Why 355 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: don't I have these experiences? And it can be a 356 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: huge contributor to this sense of unhappiness in our twenties. 357 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: I think we talk about this quite a lot on 358 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: this show, but this decade is a huge time in 359 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: our lives for huge, massive life changes and transitions. Relationships ending, 360 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: losing loved ones, moving cities, losing jobs. These things really 361 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: destabilize our life and are some of the most stressful 362 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: times that we will ever experience. There have been so 363 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: many studies that have shown that things like moving even 364 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 1: or losing someone or a breakup potentially some of the 365 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: most stressful things that you will experience, and it takes 366 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: a toll on our lives. It takes a toll on 367 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: our happiness levels and our sense of stability and security. 368 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: So I think you need to perhaps be gentle with yourself. 369 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this episode being like, I'm so 370 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: unhappy and I don't know why because everything seems to 371 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: be going well. I think it's important to take a 372 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: step back and think about, honestly, think about and allow 373 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: yourself to be almost a little bit selfish and a 374 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: little bit pitying of what you may have been through 375 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: in the last year, what you may have been through 376 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: in the last six months, three months that is destabilized 377 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: your life, even if it's been for the better. Things 378 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: like leaving UNI, things like moving cities, or losing a 379 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: loved one or going through a breakup are going to 380 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: create radical shifts and how we see the world and 381 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: how our brain interacts with different stimuli and things in 382 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: the world. And it's okay to experience unhappiness and a 383 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: sense of sadness after these big changes. Our outlook as well, 384 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: determines so much of our emotional experiences and our emotional state. 385 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: I think there are some people out there who are 386 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: just genuinely more pessimistic about life. It has nothing to 387 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: do with their levels of gratefulness or anything like that. 388 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: It's just the same way that you know we're kind 389 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: of born with the personality and we're born with the temperament. 390 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: Some people come out of the roomb and see the 391 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: world as a little bit darker than it probably is, 392 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: the same way that some people come out and see 393 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: the world a little bit brighter and are a bit 394 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: more optimistic. Our outlook really does determine how we see 395 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: the world. So it's important to kind of have a 396 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: think about how do you interpret things when things go 397 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: wrong versus when things go right? For you, you know, 398 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: if things go wrong, do you think about it as 399 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, this is my fault? Do you put it 400 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: all down to an internal explanation of I am to blame, 401 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: this is on me? And then when things go right, 402 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: do you you know, is your explanation around luck? Around fate. 403 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: It's really hard to feel happy and to feel satisfied 404 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: when everything that goes wrong is our fault, whereas everything 405 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: that goes right is out of our control. There are 406 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: so many factors that contribute to feeling sad and feeling 407 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: unhappy and uneasy in our twenties, and they're definitely ones 408 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: I've experienced, and definitely ones that we have to do 409 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: a bit of soul searching about I think a biological 410 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: explanation is one of them, for sure. Like, I think 411 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: that's something I've been able to recognize, is that sometimes 412 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: our brains just don't produce what we need them to, 413 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: and the kind of ripple on effects of that can 414 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: be periods of really bad depression or periods of sadness. 415 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: If that's something that you think you might be going through, like, 416 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: there are ways to get over that. But there are 417 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: also cultural and environmental factors that contribute to our outlook 418 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: on life. You know, the sense of doom around climate 419 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: change is or any other existential kind of crises or 420 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: factors that are going on in your community or in 421 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: your personal life, or in the kind of global atmosphere 422 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: as well, can really impact our mental health in some 423 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: very deeply unseen ways. And then there's things on a 424 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: smaller scale but that are just as impactful, like social media, 425 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: like comparison. Comparison is kind of the thief of joy, 426 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: and with you know, the rise and popularity of social media, 427 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: the ease of being able to see every moment of 428 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: other people's lives, it can really create quite a negative 429 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: and toxic cycle that leaves us feeling really uneasy and 430 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: really unhappy. I will say, sometimes it feels good to 431 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: be sad. I know that sounds kind of dumb, right, 432 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: Like we're talking about how much it's a struggle to 433 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: sometimes be unhappy and not have an explanation for it. 434 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: But sometimes it's important to go through periods of sadness. 435 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: I think that's why we listen to sad songs. I 436 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe you're not someone who likes to do that, 437 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: but there is some kind of strange pleasure in the 438 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: pain of listening to music that pulls at our heart 439 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: strings or that allows us to feel a little bit 440 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: sorry for ourselves. There are some explanations around that. You know, 441 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 1: it makes us feel nostalgic, but it also feels really human. 442 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: It feels comforting that you can relate to someone else's 443 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: experience is the way that they can relate to you. 444 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: You know, it feels so much less alone when you're 445 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: going through something really hard, you're in a period of 446 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: deep unhappiness or sadness, and you're able to hear that 447 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: someone else has been through that as well, And not 448 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: only have they been through that, but they've created something 449 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: for you to relate to as well. I think that 450 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: is a really important thing to remember. We all go 451 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: through periods like this. It's completely normal. If you're someone 452 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: listening to this right now in a really hard spot. 453 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: You know it sounds cliche, but you're not alone. It's 454 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: actually really normal to go through this, especially in this 455 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: decade of our lives. There are some of the biggest 456 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: life changes that we will ever experience are happening right now, 457 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: right now. You know, so many big changes that create 458 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: novel situations and novel experiences for us that we really 459 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 1: understand because we've never been through them before. And the 460 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: pressure that puts on our ability to adapt, on our resilience, 461 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: and on our brains and our outlooks and our perspectives 462 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: is often so understated. You know, no wonder I think 463 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: all of us are bound to go through a hard 464 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: point in this life, and I think we haven't even 465 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: accounted for some of those other huge factors that you 466 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: might be able to pinpoint, you know, losing a loved one, 467 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: losing a job, going through a breakup. Like we said, 468 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: these things destabilize us and they make it hard to 469 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: see the joy and the beauty and life, and that 470 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: sometimes contributes to this, to this feeling of deep unhappiness 471 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: and guilt associated with that, especially as privileged people, people 472 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: who seemingly have everything, or maybe you don't, but you know, 473 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: having a roof over your head and food and you know, 474 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: food and your belly and clothes on your back. Sometimes 475 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: I think it's this sense of almost we're not allowed 476 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: to feel bad, We're not allowed to feel unhappy because 477 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: how lucky are we? Like? How lucky are we? And 478 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: it kind of contributes to this societal feeling and the 479 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: societal pressure of guilt and shame for not feeling grateful enough, 480 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: for not feeling like you you really are blessed, which 481 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: is so toxic. But you're allowed to feel unhappy even 482 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: if you have everything that you could want, even if 483 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: everything is going right. It's not always in your control 484 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: like our emotional states, Like I said, sometimes just as 485 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: much even if less in our control as our external environment. 486 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: There are so many things that are interacting in our 487 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: brains and in our bodies and in our external worlds 488 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: that impact our moods and impact our emotional states on 489 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: a daily So you don't need to feel a sense 490 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: of guilt if you're not happy enough right now, if 491 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: you're appreciative enough of what you have, but I think 492 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: it's important we also talk about how to move past this, 493 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: how to change your outlook, how to change how you 494 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: see the world to hopefully experience a bit more happiness. 495 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: This elusive, this elusive word. We've been talking about this 496 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: whole episode. How do we curate our lives to be 497 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: focused on happiness and focused on the achievement of happiness 498 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: and joy and gratitude. That's what we're going to talk 499 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: about in the next segment of this episode. Something that 500 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: is so important to remember is that everything is temporary. 501 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: Every experience, every emotional experience, is completely temporary. The same 502 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: goes for unhappiness, the same goes for sadness. I remember 503 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: when I was younger, my mom used to say to me, 504 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: the only promised is changed. And sometimes that is a 505 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: really scary thought. But when it comes to periods like 506 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: this one where you might be really unhappy, where things 507 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: just aren't looking up, when you're really stuck in or right, 508 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of a really amazing reminder that life promises 509 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: you that things will change and hopefully it can't get 510 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: much worse. Like there really is up, the only way 511 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: really is up, And there are things that you can 512 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: do to help yourself get there. So many things. We 513 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: always say this on the show. You have agency, You 514 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: have the ability to make small changes in your life. 515 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: And although periods of sadness and periods of depression, even 516 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: or unhappiness aren't always within our control, there are things 517 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: we can do to kind of ease the pain a 518 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: little bit. And that's what I want to talk about now. 519 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,959 Speaker 1: I want to talk about some strategies, some methods for 520 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: overcoming a period like this one where you just don't 521 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: feel particularly happy. Okay, I'm going to say something really 522 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: cliche here, but therapy is incredible. It's amazing. Like there's 523 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: a reason that everyone you know it talks about getting therapy, 524 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: and everyone talks about how amazing and important it is 525 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: to receive psychological help. I really cannot overstate the benefits. 526 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: I know it can be expensive, I know it can 527 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: be inaccessible, and I know that not everyone has the 528 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: same access as others in being able to receive this help. 529 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: But if you are someone who does have access to it, 530 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: if you're someone who is eligible for a certain program 531 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: or is eligible for therapy or psychological assistance through work, 532 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 1: you should absolutely do it. Even if you don't think 533 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: anything is clinically wrong with you. Even if you're just 534 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: not feeling all right, you're just feeling a little bit off, 535 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: it is still so so important. I think going to 536 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: therapy and receiving professional help in times like this, in 537 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: times when everything just doesn't let you know, things don't 538 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: seem to be looking up, when it really has nothing 539 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: to do with what's going on in your life, it 540 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: seems to be more internal. Going to therapy provides provides 541 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: a place free of judgment in a way that talking 542 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: to friends and talking to family doesn't always offer you. 543 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: People are always going to bring their own assessments of 544 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: you and perceptions of you into any conversation about mental 545 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: health or any conversation about what's going on in your life. 546 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: But a therapist is not the same. It doesn't have 547 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: They don't have that same that same bias, or those 548 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: same preconceived notions of you. It's a place completely free 549 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: of judgment and shame. That's like what they're paid to do. 550 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: They're paid to just listen to you, and you're able 551 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: to really focus almost selfishly on just you, on just 552 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: what you want to talk about, on just what you're feeling. 553 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: That is so rare. You don't get that in every 554 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: other day to day experience of life. But when you 555 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: do go into and receive professional help, that's the whole point. 556 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: Like you are kind of the star of the show. 557 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: You get to talk about whatever you want to talk 558 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: about free of judgment, and we don't always get that opportunity. 559 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: I think also they provide you with some amazing strategies 560 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: for changing your outlook and changing daily habits in your 561 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: life that might help you out. I do want to say, 562 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: I really hate this idea of almost toxic positivity your 563 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: lifestyle changes as a way to get better if you're 564 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: going through a hard period. I think often people talk 565 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: about the endorphins released from exercise and eating well and 566 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: doing things that make you happy, and you know, doing 567 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: things that make you feel connected with others, and those 568 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: are definitely an important part of the equation. It is 569 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: difficult to be happy if you don't connect with those 570 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: around you and if you don't spend time outside and 571 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: drinking off water and take care of your body. But 572 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: that's not always going to be the solution. And like 573 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 1: we said, this episode is really about those times when 574 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: you are doing all of those things, you're doing everything 575 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: right and you still don't feel completely okay. So I 576 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: do really want to dispel this idea that simple lifestyle 577 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,280 Speaker 1: changes are going to cure everything you're going through. Sometimes 578 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: that is, you know, the simplest explanation isn't the best one, 579 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's not always in our control. But it's 580 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: also important to give yourself a bit of a fighting chance, 581 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 1: right and to try the things that you think might work, 582 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: the things that may have worked in the past. And 583 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: that kind of links to the next point. There is 584 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: something to be said about finding small joys throughout your 585 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: day and reflecting on them, especially when you feel like 586 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: things aren't really going your way, like you have this 587 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: inexplicable kind of black cloud lingering over your head. You 588 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: can decide to think about think about what's going right, 589 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: think about what there is to be grateful for. And 590 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: it's not in a way of shaming yourself for making 591 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: yourself feel guilty for not appreciating those things before. It's 592 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: just a nice reminder. Sometimes when we're kind of stuck 593 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: in the mud, and we're kind of stuck in the 594 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: dark times of our lives, it can be really difficult 595 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: to poke our heads up and really survey the landscape 596 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: and survey our lives from an honest perspective and realize 597 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: how much we have. So it's important, I think, to 598 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: maintain some form of gratitude list or gratitude journal. My 599 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: really good friend Zoe does this, and I remember when 600 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: I was going through a really hard time, maybe a 601 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, she told me to give it 602 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: a go, and I really didn't believe her. I kind 603 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: of shook it off. I was like, Oh, that's not 604 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 1: going to do anything. But let me tell you, Even 605 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: just that small practice of forcing myself to list five 606 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: ten things I'm grateful for every day, it changes. It 607 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: changes your outlook on life, and it also causes you 608 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: to search for those things. It causes you to go 609 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: out into the world and day by day think about 610 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: things that are going to make you feel grateful for 611 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: another day, make you feel grateful for the life that 612 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: you live. I remember, I think when I was going 613 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: through a hard period at the start of the year. 614 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: One day, the only thing that I was grateful for 615 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: was like a chicken salad, which is so sad. I 616 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I'm so grateful for this chicken salad. 617 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: But you know what, how beautiful was that that I 618 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: was able to find just that one thing, and it 619 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: was so simple, it was so basic, And I think 620 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 1: about it quite a lot like that. It's such a 621 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: beautiful practice to put your mind to. I also think 622 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: it's important to recognize the environmental and social and cultural 623 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: factors in our lives that may be contributing to unhappiness, 624 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: Specifically things that are pulling us down, whether that is 625 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: a toxic relate relationships, or toxic friendships, or a toxic workplace. 626 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: You don't have to stay in environments and in relationships 627 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: that don't allow you to grow. You don't have to 628 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: stay in stressful situations that are taking away from your 629 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: ability to live the life you want to leave like 630 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,839 Speaker 1: this is your life. You really only get one of them. 631 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: So if there is something like that in your life, 632 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: something that is wearing you down, something that you think 633 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: is subconsciously or consciously making you feel sad, or making 634 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: you unhappy, or making you stressed, you're allowed to change that. 635 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: You're allowed to say no, and you're allowed to remove 636 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: those things from your life. There's also a lot to 637 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: be said about this practice of almost scheduling happiness and 638 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: scheduling pleasure into your life. It's a psychological practice. I 639 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: think it's that. That's what it's called. It's called gratitude 640 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: scheduling or pleasure scheduling. So essentially, you schedule activities throughout 641 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: your week and throughout your day that you know, we're 642 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: going to make you happy. So be that signing up 643 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: for a gym class in three days. You know that's 644 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: something to look forward to, or saying to yourself, you know, oh, 645 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: if I go into the office, or if I see 646 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: a friend today, or if I leave my house today 647 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: and go for a walk, I'm going to let myself 648 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: get a really nice cup of coffee or a really 649 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: nice sweet tree. You get to decide the pleasure and 650 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: happiness that enters into your life. And it's a really 651 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: great way to retrain your brain into understanding the agency 652 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: that you have over your emotional experiences. And that's not 653 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, there are always going to 654 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: be instances in which things come out of the blue 655 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: and really traumatic and awful experience happen that destabilize our 656 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: lives and kind of push us around and shift out 657 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: and shift our outlook and shift our ability to cope. 658 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: But you build that resilience, and when you build those 659 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: strategies throughout your life to be able to deal with 660 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: those moments, you will emerge as a stronger person. Before 661 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 1: we wrap up, I do just want to say I 662 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: really hope that we talk about this more and that 663 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: this episode allows you to talk to your family and 664 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: friends about this more. I'm going through a period right 665 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: now where from the outside, I'm sure people think everything 666 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: is going really amazingly well, and for many many reasons 667 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: it is, and in many ways it is, But that 668 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to feel unhappy, and 669 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,759 Speaker 1: that the same can be said for you. You don't 670 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: always get to control how you feel about experiences, and 671 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: sometimes even when things are going really well, that can 672 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: be incredibly overwhelming. If that's not something that you expect, 673 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: or if it's a real surprise, you're allowed to be overwhelmed, 674 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: and you're allowed to take time to process experiences and 675 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: what's going on in your life, and above all else, 676 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: you're allowed to be unhappy. But I don't think you 677 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: have to be. And if it's something you're seriously struggling with, 678 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: I think go and get professional help. This absolutely no 679 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: shame in doing that. I think It's honestly something to 680 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: be applauded and something that's incredibly brave. You're deciding for 681 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: you that you want to be better, that you want 682 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: to be happier, and that is just so incredible. So 683 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: rarely do people actively make the choice to put themselves 684 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 1: first and to improve their life. So if you have 685 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: any doubt, or if you have any desire to do it, 686 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: I would really say, go and do it. Go and 687 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: do it now, do it as soon as possible, and 688 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: I think that you will really be better for it. 689 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's probably something I need to do as well, 690 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: so it's a good reminder to me. And I just 691 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: want to say thank you so much for listening to 692 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 1: this episode. And if this is something you're going through, 693 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm sending you so much love and so much support 694 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: and so much strength. Just by listening to this, I'm 695 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,959 Speaker 1: sure that you are already thinking about ways to kind 696 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: of to help yourself. And I also hope this eases 697 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: some of your guilt. You know, it's not always something 698 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,240 Speaker 1: that you've done and something that you need to change. 699 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: There are biological and cultural and environmental and existential things 700 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: that are impacting us on a daily It can be 701 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: really hard to remain true to a sense of happiness 702 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: and to achieve happiness in our lives when all these 703 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: other things are going on, and you're doing an amazing job. 704 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: So thank you for listening to this episode. Thank you 705 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: for supporting this show, each and every one of you. 706 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: It's so great to have you here. And if you 707 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: do feel inclined, if this was something that you enjoyed, 708 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: please feel free to leave the show a five star review. 709 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: It really helps the podcast grow. It helps the show grow. 710 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: If it's something that you think someone else would benefit from, 711 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 1: that would also be amazing. And as always, I will 712 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: see you next week for another episode. Thank you for 713 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: listen Name