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Speaker 2: You using you will be well for it's time to

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Speaker 2: Combat Black Friday Edition. Happy Thanksgiving to you, and welcome on.

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Speaker 2: And you're watching this right now on Friday, November twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: twenty and twenty four. Roan Campbell Luke Thomas co host.

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Speaker 2: You know, possibly of the greatest combat sports show that's

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Speaker 2: Let's wrap this shit up right, Okay, Well, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: Luke, you see I want to I want you to

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Speaker 2: Like the PFL founder, I don't have a favorite MMA fight,

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Hey, those horns are responsible from

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Speaker 2: one man, and one man only. The third member of

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Speaker 2: Minute Pod Fame Fame. I say, man, Card, how are

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Speaker 2: you happy Thanksgiving to you?

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Speaker 3: Happy Thanksgiving to you guys, to all the donks. I'm

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, that's what's going on

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Speaker 2: Like it doesn't feel like it Monday of this week?

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Speaker 2: You and I found out that this card was this week.

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Really minus three twenty five? However, is kazerra of your favorite?

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Speaker 1: Kizriev, Yeah, twenty nine years of age, as you indicated,

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Speaker 1: If you're trying to phase them out, Just let them go.

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Speaker 2: Like the whole thing's hard for me to understand. Why

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Speaker 2: aren't Why is Patricio Pitbull not in a featured fight

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Speaker 1: It's not designed to be a fight promotion that organically

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there you go. Hey, Brent Premiss. Though

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Speaker 1: Heck, yeah right, I didn't see it coming. I didn't

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Speaker 1: But dude, this is the PFL. Would they if they

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Speaker 2: He'll take on Oleg pop Off. But for Goutzov, he

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Speaker 1: if someone said, you gotta beat Lynton Vassel, this version

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Speaker 1: of Thiago Santos and this version of Tim Johnson and

431
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Speaker 1: you can win, and then obviously it's to fight pop off,

432
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Speaker 1: but like to get to those three you can then

433
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Speaker 1: fight for a million dollar camp pain. You'd be like,

434
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Speaker 1: you take that, You take that, you know, if you're

435
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 1: a Goldsaff, you take that ten days out of ten,

436
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 1: Like of course obviously, yes what it what a great

437
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: way to make good money in the fight game. So

438
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Speaker 1: you know you're talking about getting something back legitimacy wise, okay,

439
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: but the PFL is also about just you know, getting

440
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 1: good money where good money is available, and this dude

441
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 1: has found the best way to do that.

442
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Speaker 2: I can if I can see Goltsov will be a

443
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: plus one ten underdog according to DraftKings against the minus

444
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Speaker 2: one thirty pop Off. Luke, do you know much about

445
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 2: the thirty two year old Russian oligg Popoff who has

446
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: been has a nineteen and one record overall and has

447
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Speaker 2: been unbeaten this year in the PFL.

448
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Speaker 1: I saw the Steve Mawory about which he kind of

449
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 1: polished him off. But I've not been played paid close

450
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Speaker 1: attention to. I'd be lying to the audience if I did, so,

451
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Speaker 1: Let's see what happens.

452
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd bet Malory, Davion Franklin and Letton vissel By

453
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Speaker 2: decision to get to this point, Luke, would you say

454
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Speaker 2: though that, I mean it's been part of our running

455
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 2: criticism of PFL and the current setup up of where

456
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 2: it's too it's too horizontally built. There's too many, you know,

457
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 2: watered down sub banners of what they're doing. If this

458
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: is their championship card, it's kind of hard that we

459
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 2: don't get Larissa Pacheco to, you know, potentially defending her

460
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 2: title or fighting for another season title. And the same

461
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: thing with hen and for Hada because both were kept

462
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Speaker 2: out for the big pay per view. Obviously, I think

463
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: the best move for them and you've sort of echoed

464
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: the same thing is to just rip up the script,

465
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Speaker 2: combine the rosters into one, put a championship atop each division,

466
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Speaker 2: and compete find out how good you can be. But

467
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: would you say it's disappointing if you are cheering for

468
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: the PFL and this championship card doesn't have two of

469
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Speaker 2: their better fighters on there, and for Hada and Pacheco.

470
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Speaker 3: I just.

471
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Speaker 1: I think your question is totally fine. But I just

472
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Speaker 1: think of all the problems that they got, that's the

473
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Speaker 1: least of them. Dude.

474
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Speaker 2: I mean, right, but they have these tournament setups, but

475
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Speaker 2: then sometimes like no, no tournament.

476
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Speaker 1: Okay, so fair enough. These are what you are identifying

477
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: as correct. I don't want to I don't want to

478
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: suggest them in any way saying you're wrong, but like,

479
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: why not just have Pitbull fight somebody on this card?

480
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: Why not have Patchy mixed by the Leandro Ego? Fucking Corey?

481
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: Why is it Cory? And oh because it's a Belletzorf,

482
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: who gives a fuck? Just put it on the cards, like,

483
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: put some razzle dazzle on this bitch. And they don't,

484
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: and they don't, and this is why they have all

485
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Speaker 1: these fucking problems. I mean again, it's like every time

486
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Speaker 1: you try to understand, like why does the PFL do

487
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: this as opposed to this, like this, this system is

488
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: not perfect, but it works, and then they go to

489
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Speaker 1: the other one. It's like you just follow the money,

490
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: follow the money with them, like that explains everything that

491
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: they do and it tells you it's it's the it's

492
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Speaker 1: the it's their four oh one k it's a financial portfolio.

493
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Speaker 1: It's not it's not a fight promotion.

494
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, Luke, that's all I got to say

495
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Speaker 2: about PFL Championships, which should start after this end.

496
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: More than enough.

497
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Speaker 2: You can hop onto the main card minute podcast. I

498
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: think we're doing a live bong rip for every eight.

499
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Speaker 1: Right, that's a yes, Oh there you go.

500
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Speaker 2: Hey, let's go to topic number two. It's not finalized,

501
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: but reporting is starting to leak out at what this

502
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: February twenty second Rio odd Sison showcase in Saudi Arabia

503
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: by Turkey Ala Chicon Company. The plans that promoter Eddie

504
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 2: Hearn had previously said publicly that this would be the deepest,

505
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: most amazing card in the history of riadd Sison, which

506
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: has been the last year plus in the sport of boxing. Subsequently,

507
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: there's been some reactions to the reporting over the last

508
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Speaker 2: day that say, hey, maybe one or more of the

509
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: fighters rumored for this card could drop out, but there's

510
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: been some rumors of other fights that could be added.

511
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Speaker 2: Let's just talk about from reporting from the likes of

512
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: Dan Rayfield and others, what this February twenty second supercard

513
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: is starting to look like. Not finalized, but Luke Thomas,

514
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: if I told you, you could tune into pay per

515
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: view at a discounted rate, by the way, which is

516
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Turkey's idea, And on February twenty second, you could see

517
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: Daniel Dubois defending his IBF heavyweight title against Joseph Parker,

518
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 2: Artur better Viev and Dmitri Beval in a mussy rematch

519
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: for the light heavyweight championship. Jeron Boots Ennis versus Victor

520
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 2: excuse me, Virgil Ortiz Junior at one hundred and fifty

521
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: four pounds. Carlos adamis defending his middleweight belt against Hamza Shiraz.

522
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: Julai Jean coming back against Kaba Yel, who has been

523
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: on a tier of late, a tear of late at heavyweight.

524
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: Luke even if one of those fell out. There's also

525
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: rumors that Shakherse Stevenson versus unbeaten prospect Kid Austin Floyd

526
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 2: Schofield could be added in addition to those, or replacing

527
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: one of those. Luke, if we get ninety eighty percent

528
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 2: of the matchups I just told you, is it fair

529
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: to say this sets a new precedent of how deep

530
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 2: a boxing pay per view guard can be in the

531
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Speaker 2: modern era.

532
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Speaker 1: It's again, I'm not a boxing historian, so I'm not

533
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: trying and I'm not trying to be, but I'm just

534
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: trying to say someone has been like watching boxing for

535
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: a while, I've never seen a card like that. And

536
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 1: again to BC's points, not finalized, but what they've what's

537
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: like heavily rumored to believe to be anchor points of

538
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: the card or Ties Boots obviously Dubois Parker and you

539
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: know just down the list that would be. I mean,

540
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: here's the way to understand it. There's no way, even

541
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: under a great enthusiasm, that a card like that is

542
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: built without somebody like like single handedly making it happen

543
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: like you can't. The economics of it would never work

544
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: in any anywhere else other than someone extraordinarily wealthy and

545
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: swooping in and just paying for it to happen. It

546
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: cannot happen. Like that's not just like a good card,

547
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: it's a card that is other wise impossible to make.

548
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: Like that's how good it is. So, you know, I

549
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: don't know how long we see the Saudis have in boxing.

550
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: Maybe one more year, maybe one hundred more years, who's

551
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: to say. But if if you want like big fights

552
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: to be made and big cards to be made, you

553
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: have to celebrate what you have now because I don't

554
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: know how you get this. But for someone like Turkey

555
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: just taking a financial bath, and I want to say

556
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: he did the twenty dollars pay per view before, the

557
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: results were not game changing in any respect. I think

558
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: it did quite poorly. As a matter of fact, it

559
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: made no difference to piracy in the end, which is

560
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: something I've been trying to explain to people. It just

561
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't work. And so you're not only taking a bath,

562
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: like to make the car to put all those names together,

563
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get shit at the gate because they're

564
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: gonna put it in riod And then on top of it,

565
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: you're not gonna make any money on pay per view.

566
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. It is literally impossible to

567
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: make this but for someone else just swooping in and

568
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: then just you know, putting their credit card on the

569
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: table and saying, charge it to the charge it to

570
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: the card.

571
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Lou Quality wise, I don't think we've seen something like

572
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: this in boxing. And that is even going back to

573
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: the famed nineteen nineties loaded pay per view cards that

574
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 2: Don King would put out where you could have Tyson

575
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: Chavez Senior, Christy Martin Wright. We've seen some tremendous cards.

576
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: This is a quality level that goes beyond Luke. I

577
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: got to compare this to almost like a UFC two

578
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: five or two seventeen type of comparison, you know what

579
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, this is out of this world. This

580
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: has three fights at the top here that could headline

581
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: their own pay per views. When you're talking about Dua Parker,

582
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: and don't forget Parker's red hot after the run of

583
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: big names, He's recently defeated the better bev All Cells itself,

584
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: Jaran Ennis going to one fifty four against unbeaten Virgil

585
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: or T Cells itself. Imagine if you're adding Shaker Stevenson

586
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: and there is talks that that could happen now that

587
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: Williams Ofpaida is pulled out with an injury of that

588
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: originally scheduled idea. And those other two fights are not

589
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: anything you sneeze at. Those are very good cards. I

590
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: mean again, what you said is so right. Who knows

591
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: how long? Who knows if we can expect stuff like this?

592
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: Is this just for It's.

593
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: February kind of becoming a major for Riadds's And it's

594
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: the same time this year that they did the Anganu

595
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: versus Joshua card, which was also pretty deep at that time.

596
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: Not deep on this level. This is an eye opener.

597
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: This is a stop what you're doing and circle the calendar.

598
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: This is incredible. If this is really what we can

599
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: expect to get, I won't complain about the pacing. You

600
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: can put Turkey Alashkin as an honorary honorable member of

601
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: all the state Hall of Fames across our country. I

602
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: don't even care about that. Bs Luke giveaway trips to

603
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: Saudi every five minutes on that show. We don't know

604
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: offerings like this in the sport of boxing. This is like, hey,

605
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: I know you're used to eating at Arby's, but like,

606
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: here's a free pass to the Ruth Chris Steakhouse.

607
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Enjoy. I mean, you know what it is. You know

608
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: what it is. It's like going from Arby's to Fogo

609
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: to Chow. You ever been to Fogo to chow?

610
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: No?

611
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: No? Oh okay, held on Long Island, Luke Early, you

612
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: have been too to chow? Never even never even heard?

613
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: Is that a DC thing?

614
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: God, I am stuck around dullards, dullars.

615
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Oh, look at that.

616
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: Our producer knows, Our producer Matt knows, Matt's been the

617
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: Fog to Chow is a Brazilian steakhouse. It's a chain. Yeah,

618
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: there's one in DC, but there everywhere.

619
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh is that that place in Vegas? They got one.

620
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I went to where you have the meat? Yeah, green

621
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: or red? And if it's green, they just keep bringing

622
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: it to your table.

623
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: I've been to that and it's okay.

624
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yes, no ship Okay, exactly, That's what I'm

625
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: talking about. That's what this card is. It's just fog

626
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: to chow. Is that like the very very very very

627
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: nicest thing. Not exactly, but it's so much goodness you

628
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: just can't You're stuffed versus you know, doing whippets in

629
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: the back of an Arby's parking lot.

630
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: I got meat sweats at fo Yeah, yeah, yeah.

631
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Dude, If you don't walk out of there without meat

632
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: sweats and diverticulitis, what have you done? You've done nothing.

633
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: Come out of there looking to get at Jimmy John's

634
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: patch on your shorts like Lesner. Yeah, definitely. Could you

635
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: see Lesnar just house in a place like that.

636
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: Oh and then just we came imagine the commode destruction.

637
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: It's like Jeff Daniels and dumb and dumber.

638
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: Just by the way, we haven't heard from Lesner at

639
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: all since it came out about the Vince mcmn stuff.

640
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Is that?

641
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: Is it just that he hasn't competed in the WW

642
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: at all. I haven't seen him make any public appearances.

643
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: Was he in the documentary.

644
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: It was mentioned that he had.

645
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't sit down with him.

646
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: No, he did not, And I think his he's in

647
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: that Vince McMann report as as Vince had texted him

648
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: to set up the trafficking, like, Hey, this woman I

649
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: hired you can She'll do anything for you too, which

650
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: is just gross. Look, okay, it's gross, all.

651
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Right, yeah. I mean every everything that we ever loved

652
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: as kids is turns out horrible.

653
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, speaking of that, look, let's go to topic

654
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: number three and the continued fallout, well of the fallout

655
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: of Connor McGregor founding being found liable in the civil

656
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: trial for sexual assault rape. Call it what you want, Luke.

657
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: The fallout looks like this, sponsorships galore dropping McGregor's likeness

658
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: or association with Proper twelve whiskey, many distribution companies saying

659
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: they will no longer put McGregor products in their stores.

660
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 2: Is this just the beginning, in your eyes, of more

661
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: of this as the I guess McGregor kind of slowly

662
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: getting himself canceled here as a result of this.

663
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should be very careful though, I mean, canceling

664
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: is probably the right word in twenty twenty four, but

665
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: there can be different kinds of canceling, and I want

666
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: to be very clear about that. So this is something

667
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I've actually I've been spending a lot of time in

668
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: the last I don't know, well when did the news

669
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: breaker about this Friday? Since then speaking to people in

670
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Ireland and obviously in particular Irish media about like the

671
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: lay of the land there and how everything's being received

672
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And here's what I've come to. It is

673
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: very surprising, as we've talked about, for Americans to hear

674
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: that like Connor McGregor is reviled in Ireland, and it

675
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: is quite true. Everyone I talked to, both inside and

676
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: this even outside of combat sports especially, actually says that

677
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: his national stock has never been lower. And what the

678
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: way they explain, Dude, here's okay, Oh my god, listen

679
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: to this, dude. I had an Irish sports journalist tell

680
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: me that they don't they can't even really cover MMA

681
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: anymore because yeah, they would love to give attention to

682
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: Ian Gary or Paul Hughes, but they can't because MMA

683
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: is now so toxic because it's associated with Connor there.

684
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: In other words, rather than there being this halo effect

685
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: where Connor's popularity raises the profile, now his notoriety is

686
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: dampening down enthusiasm across the country for MMA, or at

687
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: least for the next you know, caring about things like

688
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Gary or the ascendancy of Paul Hughes. It's insane how

689
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: bad it is. He is loth there. So what you're

690
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: noticing is brands are finally now cutting the cord to

691
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: their relationship to him. But the amount of dislike and

692
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: discontent about him has been stewing for quite some time.

693
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: My understanding is they have had long standing feelings of

694
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: not liking this. You mentioned going there for the Calum

695
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Walsh fight and like hearing exactly that which was pre

696
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: trial for this thing. Now imagine the trial comes in

697
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: a lot of these details go public. The public in

698
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Ireland has had enough. They've had enough. But to me,

699
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: this is the interesting part. PC he sold the Proper

700
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: twelve whiskey business and had retained a job essentially as

701
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: both public face, use of likeness, brand ambassador. All of

702
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: these things. He lost a bunch of relationships with various

703
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: distributors or supermarket or grocery chains there. That's bad, it enough,

704
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: But the Proper twelve one, to me, is the most interesting.

705
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Not merely because of its symbolism, which is significant. It's

706
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: the brand that he basically founded. That's not really the reason.

707
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: The real reason is because that's probably by a million

708
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: miles I'm gonna say, his biggest source of income presently.

709
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Now it's gone now, But I mean up to this point,

710
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: because he wasn't fighting, So that's out there. Yeah, he

711
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: did the Hollywood movie. I doubt that was for a

712
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: lot in how scalable is that. I don't know this

713
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: life around liquor, whether it was as brand ambassador or

714
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: for his own properties. Now the beer he had, those

715
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: are his predominant sources of income that has now been

716
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: severely challenged. You'll note p did he. I'm not saying

717
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: that they're equivalent, but I am pointing out this. The

718
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: biggest source of his president income was not money from

719
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: the record business. It was from the similar role he

720
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: held with Sorak, and when that got challenged, a lot

721
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: of his financial wealth got challenged. I bring all this

722
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: up to say BC like it or not, and that

723
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: people can to you know, choose whatever they want. Here,

724
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: I think that Proper twelve cutting ties with him makes

725
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: the likelihood that he comes back significantly higher, because now

726
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: you have lost out on a major major source of income.

727
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: Road ahead looks Rocky.

728
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: Can I counter you and say that while I'm sure

729
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: he made a pretty penny as the brand ambassador the

730
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: likeness of Proper twelve, he did sell the product for

731
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: six hundred million. So when we're talking about his biggest

732
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: source of income. That's a giant pile. That's his biggest

733
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: source of income.

734
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: That I don't think. I think it was actually less

735
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: than that in terms of what he took home. I

736
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: think it was Don't get me wrong. Still in the

737
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: hundreds of millions. We're talking about any enormous sum of wealth,

738
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: but one he spends the shit like it's on fire.

739
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we know that, and I'm guessing that. Nevertheless,

740
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: losing all of this money still is a devastating financial hit.

741
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Given the larger portfolio of how he was making money

742
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: and again, you know, getting pulled off the shelves there,

743
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna take a long time before he gets that back.

744
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: This is not just money he's losing for the next year,

745
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: but potentially for a very long time. Finding some way

746
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: to combat that and also understand something. Getting the money

747
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: from a fight person is probably pretty significant for him,

748
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 1: obviously because he's Connor McGregor. But we all know the

749
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: story BC. We talked about it on Monday. How much

750
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: you can rehab your image with the car wash of

751
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: a fight cycle is significant. There's a lot to be

752
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: done there, and this dude needs rehab more than ever.

753
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 1: But I do feel like losing that proper twelve relationship

754
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: really fucked things up for him. The Irish believe he

755
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: had it coming. We'll see what it all means in

756
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: the end.

757
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Connor would put out a statement just a few

758
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: days ago saying, people want to hear from me. I

759
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: needed time. I know I made mistakes. He would go

760
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: on to frame the sexual saw allegation as you know,

761
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: him having sex out of marriage, but still keeping his

762
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 2: innocence in regard to that and saying, as much as

763
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: I regretted, everything that happened that night was consensual, Luke.

764
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: That would continue and there was more in that Connor posting,

765
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: but that would continue to his significant other common law

766
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: wife d Devlin, who also spoke out on her social

767
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 2: media in a lengthy multi post rant which really accuses

768
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: the accuser, Nikita hand of being you know, not only

769
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 2: money hungry and lying, but really pointing to a lot

770
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 2: of that gray area and the evidence that that is

771
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 2: damning toward Nikita and going the extra mile and trying

772
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: to frame that, you know, d saying her and Connor

773
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: had had an issue back then, but they with the infidelity,

774
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: but they dealt with it and things are changed now.

775
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: And then attacking Hand's character for lying to her significant other,

776
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: you know, partying with Connor while she has children at home. Luke,

777
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: this was not well received by anyone. I understand d

778
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: connor significant other supporting him in that side, believes that

779
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: he had done no harm in this case. I guess

780
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: outside of that infidelity, it is D forgetting all the

781
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 2: times that since then where Connor's been found, like at

782
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: the halftime of the of the Heat game in Miami

783
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: with a with a girl in the in the bathroom

784
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: that they shut down. I mean, this just came across

785
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: as just the wrong posts at the wrong time, especially

786
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: when D went to the level of I'll raise my

787
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: kids to you know, be Larry Larry of women like you,

788
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: when everyone else is responding maybe you should raise your

789
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: kids to not be like Connor. This is going in

790
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: an area that you don't normally like to Luke, putting

791
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: the idea of infidelity up there on the crime level

792
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: of the things he's been accused of. But doesn't this

793
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 2: come off just as really tone death in a way.

794
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's being charitable. I don't. I

795
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: don't have any interest in speaking about the inner workings

796
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: of their marriage. In part because we have no fucking

797
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: idea about the inner workings of their marriage, and also

798
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: it's not our business. But I will say that. I'll

799
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: just say this. You see what days did she show

800
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: up to the trial? Do you recall the last two?

801
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, right, when all of the forensic evidence

802
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: that makes the strongest case for Nikita hand, she was

803
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: absent for all of that. You know, there's a number

804
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: of theories that we could launch about why she chose

805
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: to do what she did. In terms of these stories

806
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: on Instagram, I don't think any of them paint a

807
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: very happy picture. And for me, you know, I know

808
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people have questions about legitimately important parts

809
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 1: of the case, and I certainly understand that, but none

810
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of these people have any willingness to reconcile with the

811
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: forensic evidence. They simply want to pretend that that is

812
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: something that is not as important, or otherwise not as meaningful,

813
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: or otherwise not as clear. And it's all of those things.

814
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: It's the most important evidence, it's the strongest by a

815
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: million miles, and it's the one that they cannot reconcile with,

816
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: including her. And I think until people are willing to

817
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: do that you know their judgment about these matters be

818
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: taken not so seriously.

819
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah that I didn't like that posting at all, but

820
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: you know, who cares? What do I know? Luke? This

821
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: is just gross And you know, then you get a

822
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: lot of people really posting on social media the totality

823
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: of the accusations against McGregor over the last five or

824
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: six years, even though not obviously not every single one

825
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 2: had led to a result in court like this. But man, Luke,

826
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: this guy needs two.

827
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Different women who accused him of sexual assault. And by

828
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: the way, there's more than that. I mean, I'm just

829
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: referring to two different cases. There's certainly plenty more. But

830
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: you have at least two cases where women went to

831
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: police to accuse him, it moved through the justice system

832
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: in Ireland, and then both in different ways. One had

833
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: her house broken into and her significant other stabbed, and

834
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: then the other one had her car fire bombed outside

835
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: of her Dublin apartment. Like, guys like you cannot claim

836
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: to be people who are able to read evidence effectively

837
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: and then make wrong judgments about it If you are

838
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: unable to understand the significance and the connectivity between these

839
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: events it's.

840
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Well said, Luke, let's put it. Let's put a bow

841
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: on that right there, and transition into why we're here.

842
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: It's Thanksgiving mail bag time. We put the cry out

843
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 2: to you to email us that morning combat at gmail

844
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: dot com ask your questions we like to have on

845
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the holiday.

846
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Hey, pussy, you're still there.

847
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: Are Are you talking to my cat? Or are you

848
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: talking about the Reggie j over here, that bitch ass cat. No,

849
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: that's not fair, that's not fair.

850
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: I will spit in your face, Richard.

851
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: No, No, this this man needs to be protected for

852
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: for many great reasons.

853
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: Dude, that is that is it's not me, and it's

854
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: not your wife. Homie over there is your real significant other.

855
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest with Yes, he you.

856
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: Know, he made a choice. He put it, you know,

857
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: he put it on the line for me. Luke and

858
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: I had a decision to make what I what I

859
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: reciprocate And the answer was yes, Luke. Okay, I'm ship.

860
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm Reggie Jackson's bitch who cleans this ship, my son Chris,

861
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: I did for years, but they got it, finally got

862
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: handed down, So I was very happy at that development.

863
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: All right, can you put tukes on the letterbox. Please,

864
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: can you train her up at.

865
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: The right way, Luke, My daughter shits in the commode mercifully.

866
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: I was talking about her cleaning the cat box, but

867
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: they we don't have a catbox. Oh, you don't have

868
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: any more cats at the moment, correct, Yeah, he's been

869
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: dead for a few years.

870
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: BC.

871
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh. Well, I mean there's still time to maybe get

872
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: a new one. But that's you know, that's the discussion

873
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: between you and the family. All right. On that note,

874
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: let's get into our Thanksgiving milbag questions. The first one

875
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: comes to us from Dean. Hey, guys, extra long time

876
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: listener and just huge fan of you both. My question

877
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 2: is there's been a lot of talk about the negatives

878
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four in the UFC, but what are

879
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: your top three things that you are thankful for in

880
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty four UFC year. Thank you for the

881
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 2: hours of effort and dedication you put in. I am

882
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: thankful for mk Luke. Dean has a point. This year

883
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: hasn't been all shit stains. I haven't loved direction of

884
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: the matchmaking. There's been a lot of last minute head

885
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: scratching decisions. We did get some huge events. We did

886
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: get some great fights, we'd get some great stories and developments.

887
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 2: Can you give me one thing that you're happy that

888
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: went down on the MMA Global Leader this year that

889
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: you're thankful for Besides Ilia Taporia's rod.

890
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: The rise of Ilia Taporia I think has been I mean, honestly,

891
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: to me, the biggest two things were him and Alex

892
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: Pereira this year, right, I mean, between the two of them,

893
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: you got five ridiculous main events or you know, different

894
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: levels of significance or whatever, but like those two carried basically,

895
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest chunk of the year that I

896
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: can think of. I think Boaton becoming the celebrated figure

897
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: that he is. I mean, it's hard to dislike from

898
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: what I can tell, you know, his stature and in

899
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: relevance and importance has only exploded in this time. And

900
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: then obviously to Poria wasn't as active, and we've all

901
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: been over this a million times. But I think somebody

902
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: going through and taking a division that has champions as

903
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: celebrated and revered as and as talented as you know,

904
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 1: a guy like Vulcan Max Art featherweight and then stopping

905
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: both of them is rare historically and important to appreciate,

906
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: and I think between the two of those things that's

907
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: been to me, theo's been the high water marks for sure.

908
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: By see, I wonder if you have a different feeling

909
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: about high.

910
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly. I mean, I think the MVP of twenty

911
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: twenty four is Alex Peira, for bailing out the promotion

912
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: so often, for delivering on the highest levels, for having

913
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: three title defenses in one hundred and seventy five days,

914
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: which is just absurd. The Tiporio rise was incredibly fun.

915
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: I'm thankful. I gotta say this. I'm thankful that UFC

916
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: and Dana White tried the sphere because somebody had to

917
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: do it. I'm glad that the UFCI, which well, I

918
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 2: want to say they had the finances in this case.

919
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: It took Turkey Ala Chic and there was you know,

920
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: reports of some rumblings between Dana and TKO, but they

921
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: landed plane, they pulled it off. And if you're gonna

922
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: be following a promotion that's this successful financially, you would

923
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: want them to be the industry leaders and taking chances

924
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: like this and maybe trying to elevate the way we

925
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: watch fights. I thought all of that, in the end

926
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: was noble and ambitious in a good way, and I'm

927
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 2: glad they went through with it without question. I'm starting

928
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: to even it's weird, Luke. The argument against the water

929
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 2: down matchmaking has always seemed to have been, well, hey,

930
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 2: we get a UFC card basically every Saturday. That's not true,

931
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 2: but it's close enough. I'm wondering if if you are

932
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: like me, where you're finally coming around or maybe just

933
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: getting numb to the water down matchmaking and really just

934
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: coming back to the idea that, yeah, I guess I

935
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: would rather have a card every weekend, even if I'm

936
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: making fun of the depth of it and talking about

937
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: why is this back at the Apex, than not having

938
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: anything at all.

939
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: No, I would much rather have nothing at all. That's

940
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: that's an easy choice for me to America.

941
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: Much rather have quality. I mean, I get that, I

942
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 2: prefer consistent quality. I don't know I think I'm getting.

943
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean the n b A, the n b A

944
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: being like, hey, we have games on every Saturday, but

945
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: then like two of the weekends every Saturday are the

946
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: fucking Wizards. I don't need to you know what I mean? Like,

947
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: this is not watching this kind of basketball is not

948
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: interesting it doesn't. I've tried to watch the Wizards many

949
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: times this season. They're fucking terrible. They're fucking terrible. So no,

950
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't need that. I just let me, let me,

951
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: let me know when the MAVs are playing, and I'll watch.

952
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: I'll watch my Luca don chitch.

953
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've come around after complaining most of

954
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: the year too, enjoying the combination of Row eight and

955
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: some of these donk filled Fight Night underguards.

956
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: They do not They do nothing for me.

957
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: Unless Bizping is one of the announcers, then I'm not

958
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: thankful at all. I'm also look, it's weird. I'm thankful

959
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: that the that the promotion appears so aggressively in the

960
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: bent on making this Jones aspinal fight. I'm lary of

961
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 2: saying that out loud because your responsible. Isn't that what

962
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: a promotion is supposed to do, actually aggressively try to

963
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: make the biggest fight possible. But it's like, for as

964
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: much as they filated John to get him back out here,

965
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: delayed the STPA fighter necessarily another year, they seem to

966
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: have drawn the line in the sand and basically like

967
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: no Jones will make this fight, will make it happen.

968
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm thankful for that, Luke. There could they could have

969
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 2: stood on their own bs and and let John walk

970
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: away or whatever.

971
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: But they all say this, We've never been closer. How

972
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: about that never been closer? So take her for what

973
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: it's worth.

974
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm also thankful for Eileen Perez, you know, Fiona, Luke.

975
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: She makes on fights happen and weird things happen after

976
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: those fights. I like weird people.

977
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: See this is the art in time?

978
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 2: Who Yes, I like Nate the train in the UFC.

979
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: I like I'm thankful for the fact that when a

980
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: Fight Night card launches, I'm not looking for that rising prospect.

981
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking for who are the weirdest people on the

982
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: card and will they entertain me? And they often do.

983
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: These are some of my favorite fighters, Luke, these second

984
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: and third tier fighters who are more known for their

985
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: their craziness. It's fun to watch them put together wind

986
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: streaks and see if they can crack contendership while at

987
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 2: the same time being batshit crazy. I like that side

988
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: of MMA.

989
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: I like the regional side of MMA in a different

990
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of way because I you know, people are still

991
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: striving and like really really difficult circumstances, and there's just

992
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, the unknown about the future.

993
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 1: I like that and I like super high quality MMA,

994
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: but I don't in between stuff.

995
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: I was thankful that, uh that I got to call

996
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: a boxing fight for the UFC Luke and go to Dublin.

997
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: That's fun. Yeah, that's great. Definitely.

998
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: Let's see what Uncle Dan has got around the corner

999
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: for the new year. We'll see. Let's keep this going.

1000
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: You know Dez from Cork, Ireland, Luke, you remember he

1001
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: sent us that great Christmas card our first year z Yeah,

1002
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: Dez Dez says, imagine the scenario. For the first time

1003
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 2: in history, a duo has been voted as co presidents

1004
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 2: of the US Luke Thomas and Brian Campbell. Choosing from

1005
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: only MMA fighters or MMA personalities from any nationality, please

1006
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: select individuals for the following positions Vice President, Secretary of

1007
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: the Treasury, Defense and Education, Attorney General, Press Secretary, and

1008
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: he says, coincidentally, Ireland goes to the polls today, Friday,

1009
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: November twenty ninth in our general election. Enjoy Thanksgiving. It's Dez, Luke.

1010
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: If you and I were co presidents of the new US.

1011
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: Put up put leave the question up so I can

1012
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: see all those spot yea, who.

1013
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: Would be our vice president? From MMA circles? Fighters, personalities?

1014
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: I mean, can we bring Chale in here?

1015
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: I think Chile has to be press secretary? Okay? Secretary

1016
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: of education? You could do Rosie Sexton, who has a

1017
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: pH d and was a scientist.

1018
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 2: What what the what?

1019
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: What does that face? Just because my Hi, my name

1020
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: is Brian Campbell. And if I don't know things, they

1021
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: must be bad. Hi, everybody, these are my opinions, enjoy them.

1022
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: Who's got a law degree? If I got a law degree?

1023
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: Can we put Francis and Gan? Who has Secretary of Defense? Luke?

1024
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Francis, you can go put in secretary of Defense? Uh?

1025
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: Jed Michue has a law degree. We'll make hi attorney general.

1026
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: You imagine that I'm prosecuting people who don't sell vapes.

1027
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury. Uh. You know if Connor wasn't

1028
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, the apparently a horrible person, I guess you

1029
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: would nominate him. But who do we trust with God?

1030
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: No?

1031
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: No, no, none of the none of the bitcoin, b bro,

1032
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in your fucking crypto about Hunter Campbell?

1033
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: Can he be our secretary of the Treasury. Yeah, yeah,

1034
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: I go with that, and that kind of rounds this out.

1035
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: But do we pick a VP. We have a woman

1036
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: in the cabinet. We got to have a woman in

1037
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: the oh, no, because we have Yes, Rosie Sexton will

1038
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: do Secretary of Education.

1039
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: Can we put Valentine on a roll, Luke, she'd be great?

1040
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: No, she'd be really bad. What about Tim Kennedy, Secretary

1041
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: of Defense? Yeah, you know what he is getting. So

1042
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I saw these former Special Forces guys accuse him of

1043
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: stolen valor or at least someone told me that they

1044
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: accused him of stolen valor, So I have to I

1045
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 1: have to see more about that.

1046
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: But if you like your freedom regarding Kennedy, Luke, thank him.

1047
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Right, you know what, you know who our VP should be,

1048
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: so we can blame him for all of our problems

1049
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: and then use his skills help to help us look better.

1050
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: Shack Majory, Shack, Shack Majory, Shack Majory can be our VP.

1051
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: We can get that coveted Iranian vote out of Orange County.

1052
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is the Persian prince there. Thank you, Dez

1053
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: for your question. Obviously, we want all right wingers Luke

1054
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: in Maga hats can't.

1055
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Win an election in this electorate without it, my friend.

1056
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe we can get Pat Melitic to run the

1057
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 2: January sixth community baby, Baby, let's hear from William, He says,

1058
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 2: Luke and BC open note grappling here.

1059
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: He's great. What does that mean?

1060
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: What is the open name?

1061
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: That's his screen name. This is a dude. He has

1062
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: a school in Austin, Texas. He does a lot of

1063
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: really good analysis EMMA analysis were generally obviously excels in

1064
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu analysis in particular. He's great.

1065
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: Do you think he puts the anal in an analysis? Luke?

1066
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: I think you put the anal in.

1067
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 2: I just don't even know what well. William says, Happy Thanksgiving.

1068
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 2: Can y'all talk about the UFC's decision to move into

1069
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: professional grappling. What does that mean for the UFC for

1070
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Speaker 2: Fight Pass?

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Speaker 1: Do you care?

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Speaker 2: And do you think other casual fans could care?

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Speaker 1: Luke?

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Speaker 2: I want to add on that the rumors appear to

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Speaker 2: be that a Ultimate Fighter style reality show will be

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Speaker 2: will be coming soon to Fight Pass or maybe ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it will surround the UFC's move

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00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: into grappling. What can that do for this sport? Are

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Speaker 2: you fired up about this?

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna watch the Ultimate Fighter Version or whatever

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Speaker 1: they're gonna call it. I have mixed feelings about it.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that is because, like,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the good first. The good is obviously

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00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: pretty straightforward. First. The more that they invest in grappling

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Speaker 1: and that dumb shit slap, I think, the happier all

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Speaker 1: of us are going to be. Just on that level alone,

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Speaker 1: that'd be great, But obviously, like what can it do

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Speaker 1: for the sport of grappling BC, you would probably agree

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Speaker 1: if any entity in combat sports has a chance of

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Speaker 1: making grappling cool, CJI did something unbelievable. But you know,

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Speaker 1: the UFC's muscle and their resources and their access, that's

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Speaker 1: just what they can do. Is obviously without peer. The

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Speaker 1: Fight Pass Invitational, I don't even I've caught some of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. Those are for the most part, pretty quality events.

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Speaker 1: They're at least fun, They're typically well matched, there's no

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Speaker 1: no worthy names. The rule set's pretty good. There's just

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00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: a lot to like about it. Not perfect, there's some

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00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: complaints too, but you get the idea. You just have

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Speaker 1: to imagine there's they if they really wanted to, there

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Speaker 1: can actually test, like can jiu jitsu be popular in America?

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Speaker 1: And how popular can that be? If anyone is going

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Speaker 1: to give us an answer to that question, is probably

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Speaker 1: gonna because the UFC is backing. The thing that gives

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Speaker 1: me a little bit of pause about all of this is,

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Speaker 1: of course they're monopolistic ambitions. TKO having a hand in

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Speaker 1: boxing going forward and having obviously the biggest hand in

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Speaker 1: MMA and I was for jiu jitsu and who else

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Speaker 1: knows gives me a little bit of pause. And in particular,

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Speaker 1: one thing I really don't want to see are grapplers

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Speaker 1: in their prime signing contracts with an entity that would

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Speaker 1: hold them down and not allow them to like you know,

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: mix and match everywhere as they currently do who you

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Speaker 1: know without in the same way that MMA fighters are

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Speaker 1: tied down. Do I want to see that in grappling?

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Speaker 1: Fuck No, I don't want to see that in grappling.

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Speaker 1: So it really depends on what they do. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're gonna do, But I understand cases

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Speaker 1: for optimism and pessimism just the same.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would either add weed like high rollers does,

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Speaker 2: or add striking.

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Speaker 1: High rollers. Oh, oh yeah, the weed thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then it wouldn't be grappling anymore, Luke, that'd be

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Speaker 2: the press preferred move. But I mean, Mikey Mussamechi is

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Speaker 2: now saying that he's considering MMA as well. Are you

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Speaker 2: interested in that?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I think he would probably be terrible at MMA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Hey, let's go to Robert. He's from Sydney, Australia.

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Speaker 2: Question for the elite professional boxing only. He says, why

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Speaker 2: is holding permitted? Wouldn't the sport be better off if

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Speaker 2: holding was as illegal as a punt to the nuts? NB?

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Speaker 2: This question does not relate to fighting on the inside.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the show, great fund, So, Luke, I mean,

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Speaker 2: holding gets you warned. But I guess what he's saying

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Speaker 2: is why why are why are referees sort of liberal

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Speaker 2: and allowing the holding process to take place before then

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Speaker 2: they'll jump in and separate them. You know, I don't know, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to I'm trying to put this

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Speaker 2: into words here. It is a part of the game.

1140
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Speaker 2: You can slow down your opponent, you can clinch when

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: you're hurt, give yourself a second or two. Would you

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Speaker 2: prefer an outlawing of that altogether.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any problem with the way the rules

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00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: are as I understand them. I think there could be

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Speaker 1: different levels of enforcement. That's a thing you could try,

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Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't have a problem with the

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: people want to tinker with the rules rather than tinker

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Speaker 1: with how the rules are enforced. And I think that though.

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Speaker 1: You really have to understand there's two separate problems, and

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: changing the rules is big. Changing how they're enforced, you

1151
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: can always go back on that without fucking up the

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Speaker 1: rule itself. Yes, so let's see about changing enforcement.

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Speaker 2: You're right, and look, elite referees have strike zones like

1154
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 2: baseball umpires. You know, certain guys like Kenny Bayliss is

1155
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: not gonna let you hold. He'll eventually get that warning

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Speaker 2: out for excessive holding. Other guys allow it too much.

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00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 2: I'll never forget Luis Pomone, the referee allowing Vladimir Klitch

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00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,439
Speaker 2: go to jab Alexander Povetkin and then hold and lean

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00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: all over him round after round and really just muck

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Speaker 2: up that fight. So in those cases when you get

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Speaker 2: a way too liberal referee, yes, it does make what

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Speaker 2: Robert's saying, true, why would we allow this unnecessary stalling?

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Speaker 2: But it comes down to the referee being a stern

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 2: warner and jumping in and realizing when it's just hey,

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00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: we're on the inside, nothing's happening. We're gonna clinch. Let's

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Speaker 2: separate them, and then realize when someone is actively trying

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: to muck up and slow down the fight, that's when

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00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 2: you gotta be really on your p's and q. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Luke. Let's go to Josh. He says,

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Speaker 2: what's up? Bozo's a South Jersey donk here. Look, this

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Speaker 2: guy just talks like any other Jersey person.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: When is the last time the UFC held an event

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Speaker 2: in Philly? He asks? Seems weird to me that they

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Speaker 2: head to Newark and New York City once a year

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Speaker 2: but ignore a fight fanatic city in major metro area

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Speaker 2: like Philly. Happy Thanksgiving, Luke, I will say that there isn't.

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Speaker 2: There currently is new administration atop the Philadelphia Athletic or

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Speaker 2: the sorry, the Pennsylvania Athletic Commission, but for years it

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Speaker 2: was run by a gentleman who was considered some of

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Speaker 2: the uh it's the harshest, more conservative of the way

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Speaker 2: things are run a guy who preferred same day Wigans

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00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: for example, and I know for boxing that really limited

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00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 2: the amount of major fights that you regularly see go

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Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia area. Now you're seeing it it go

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00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: up of late John Bhutan's had two matchroom cards there.

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if that's the same way previously in MMA,

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00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: where it's just known as a very strict commission so

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Speaker 2: it doesn't entice people the same way tech System Florida.

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Speaker 2: Mine took the.

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Speaker 1: Words right out of my mouth when we saw gerond

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: Ennis fight royman Villa. Was that not in Atlantic City

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Speaker 1: because they didn't want to do the fight in Philly. Yes,

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01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: Now again to your point, they have since had some

1195
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Speaker 1: changeover in leadership, but the UFC has also had bad

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01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: luck in Philly. I remember Nate mark or not Philly,

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Speaker 1: but Pennsylvania when they had Nate Mark Court on that card.

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Speaker 1: I believe that was the Pennsylvania card where he had

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Speaker 1: the TRT pop and it was this whole scandal and

1200
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Speaker 1: everything went bad. So they've just kind of stayed away

1201
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: for that reason. I agree that Philly is a fight

1202
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Speaker 1: in town, you know, I don't think it's like some

1203
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: fucking hardcore destination for MMA fandom. I think that's a

1204
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: little overstated, but sure, could they go back there more

1205
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Speaker 1: regularly because they make other stops along the East Coast? Yes,

1206
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: but Newark gets the halo effect of being close to

1207
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Speaker 1: New York City with a very good commission, and New

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Speaker 1: York City is New York City. Philly is neither of

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: those things. So if people in Philly need to pipe

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Speaker 1: down a little.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, like, when I think of

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Speaker 2: Philly and UFC, what's the first fight that comes to mind.

1213
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Speaker 2: It's got to be Anderson Silva in one Forrest Griffin's.

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Speaker 1: Right, UFC one O one bjpenn. I think Kenny Florine

1215
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: was on that car too, fantastic card. I mean that

1216
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Speaker 1: back to back of UFC one. Actually UFC ninety nine

1217
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: one hundred and one oh one was like a phenomenal

1218
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: moment in time, but absolutely, And then who do you

1219
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: think of when you think of Philly MMA. You think

1220
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: of Sean Brady presently, but Eddie Alvarez back in the day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you know, there's something to a door there,

1222
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: but it's not New York City, and it's not it's

1223
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: not the New Jersey Athletic Commission.

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Speaker 2: So are you excited about Knucklemania coming to Philly with

1225
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez against Jeremy Little Heathen Stevens hard.

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Speaker 1: I have a Brawser subscription, so I'm good, all right,

1227
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Speaker 1: Colin says Lucy Nucklemania.

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Speaker 2: What is with the average MMA fans obsession with figuring

1229
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: out who the best boxer is in MMA? It seems

1230
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: like every few weeks there's a conversation around who's the

1231
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 2: best boxer? But MMA striking goes way beyond pure boxing.

1232
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: It seems like a little weird, a weird, little sibling

1233
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: mindset to the other major combats for when we're never

1234
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: having large scale conversations about who has the best striking,

1235
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: wrestling or jesuits in MMA. Hopefully you both have had

1236
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: a wonderful Thanksgiving with your respective families. It's Colin Lucas.

1237
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Speaker 2: Colin have a point here? Or should he shut the

1238
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: hell up?

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01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he should shut the hell up, but

1240
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Speaker 1: I disagree with the framing of that, Like you have

1241
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: to understand the evolution of things. Yes, for a long

1242
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: time the question was who was the best striker in MMA? Right?

1243
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: Who is the best striker and then a lot of

1244
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: that involved people who were, for the most part, either

1245
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: dynamic kickers or had a very competent and included part

1246
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: of their kicking game. But what we've seen is that

1247
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: guys who can press with their boxing have just starting

1248
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: to have a lot more success, at least the better

1249
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: ones at it. And I also feel like you've seen

1250
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: MMA fighters cross over into boxing and look quite poor.

1251
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: Granted at the end of the run or old or whatever,

1252
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: but there is a certain refinement that comes with boxing

1253
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: because it is so narrow in rule set compared to MMA,

1254
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: and because it is so much more difficult to succeed

1255
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: in that sport relative to the amount of people who

1256
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 1: are trying it right, there's a much bigger amateur system,

1257
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: many more people you have to compete against. Relatively speaking,

1258
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: it's harder to break through. It's a much more refined

1259
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: skill set. So when you talk about people being like

1260
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Speaker 1: the best boxing I made the reason why that's relevant

1261
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: is people ask who the best wrestler is, who the

1262
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: best grappler is. These are relevant things too, but what

1263
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out is who's got that certain

1264
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: kind of level of refine, special refinement to their striking game,

1265
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: and that's why it's kind of important. And so I

1266
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: don't think it's is it the most important question? Of

1267
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: course not, but is it a reasonable one to ask

1268
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: and kind of have fun debating. I absolutely think so.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Long Island, Luke letting us know over our chat here,

1270
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Speaker 2: Luke that Philly also housed Barbosa versus Gaichee. That fantastic

1271
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Speaker 2: short we're all in twenty nineteen, and he says that

1272
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Speaker 2: Newark also pays a five million dollar location fee for

1273
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 2: UFC to go there, which probably helps. We all know

1274
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: that though, yeah, yeah, we all know that going to

1275
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: New York for any combat sport raises the taxes aggressively.

1276
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 2: So maybe it's easier to be in that New York

1277
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: City metro area by frequenting Newark. And then you know,

1278
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 2: you expose people to Newark, and Luke, and you know

1279
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: that's that has a way of really like lessening the

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Speaker 2: population and controlling if you're.

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Speaker 1: A homeless person and you need to trim your balls

1282
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: in the sink at the bathroom and penn station, use

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Speaker 1: that please next time.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's skip ahead here to David, who says,

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Speaker 2: I apologize if this has been asked before. But I

1286
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: feel like I've noticed that the careers of unretired fighters

1287
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: who land jobs on the before Fox and now ESPN

1288
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 2: analyst desk seem to lose a step. Examples Alan you Ban,

1289
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 2: Tyron Woodley, Dominic Cruz, Anthony Smith, even the likes of

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01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: Michelle Waterson and Walt Harris have been on the desk.

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Speaker 2: Question to the distractions entailed by an analyst type job

1292
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: take meaningful time away from a fighter's ability to focus

1293
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 2: and train or be one hundred percent? Or are the

1294
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: fighters chosen for the job barely recognized for their careers

1295
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: when they are already mostly past their prime. For some

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: strange reason, I think I know that Luke Ansor is

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01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 2: going to be but had to shoot my shot. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: love the show day one Dog here? Yours truly David

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Speaker 2: Luke is David Off on this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that's how it works. A lot

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: of those roles you have, Yes, you have to get

1302
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: invites for, even within the UFC, some there's a tryout for,

1303
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that is how Felder got

1304
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: one of those gigs. There was a tryout for a commentary.

1305
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: He was obviously quite good at it. And it went

1306
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: to him, but it wasn't like, you know, well, that

1307
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: was the process in play. But I think that what

1308
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,439
Speaker 1: you're seeing is guys who can do that job well

1309
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: Joe Bannfelder, when they're getting near ish near ish the

1310
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: end of their run, or at least what they feel

1311
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: like they want to even do, at that point, they

1312
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 1: began to start laying the foundation for this other kind

1313
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: of work, either by putting out feelers, getting invited, you know,

1314
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: just sort of making it known that this is a

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Speaker 1: thing that they want. These are people who are are

1316
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: feathering the bed, laying in nest, whatever metaphor you would

1317
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: like me see ahead of time. And so you know,

1318
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, now their career is starting to slip.

1319
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: It was gonna slip at that point probably anyway. Now

1320
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: they at least have another avenue, you know.

1321
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I don't think it's a correlation between

1322
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 2: become a desk analyst and your career falls apart. I

1323
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 2: think it's timing of how long it takes to build

1324
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: your star and personality and charm and charisma for the

1325
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 2: organization to take notice of you as a potential analyst.

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Speaker 2: And then I think the point you made where a

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01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 2: lot of these guys can get established quickly as analysts,

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: and then you can start realizing I don't need to

1329
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: push myself as much to take fights. I don't need

1330
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: because I'm building this cushion in this transition so they

1331
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 2: can be more selective. But yeah, I think that all

1332
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: comes together, Luke. I always am impressed it doesn't happen

1333
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: all the time in sports when someone in their prime

1334
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 2: already begins that transition. I remember Roy Jones did it

1335
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: while he was still an active in his prime fighter

1336
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 2: with HBO rick Berry in the nineteen seventies, as a

1337
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 2: prime basketball player was coming in in the finals and

1338
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: the playoffs and being a lead analyst role. Do you

1339
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: think we'll ever see that more? Or is that to

1340
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: amend this question, do you think that's the hardest thing

1341
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 2: to do? To be a championship fighter, a champion in

1342
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: your prime and juggle the demands of broadcasting with fighting.

1343
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: Broadcasting is actually pretty hard if you do it right. Yeah,

1344
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, you just show up and talk,

1345
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: you can do that. That's true.

1346
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah he's great at it.

1347
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: Okay, but at a bare minimum, he at least pays

1348
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: somebody to do research like, you know, even then he

1349
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: doesn't literally just show up and talk. There's some other

1350
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: level of prep involved. That's kind of funny though, Although

1351
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 1: I like DC when he's on, like when he's doing well,

1352
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: he is very good, you know.

1353
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: I think it's the second best announcer in the UFC family.

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01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: Okay, but the point I'm tring to make is, you know,

1355
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: for the rest of us, you know, you can't be

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01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: Sie will tell you this, like if you don't do

1357
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of homework, it just shows you won't hold

1358
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: that job for very long. And so yeah, it's like

1359
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: a time consuming job. Talking is not necessarily the hardest

1360
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: part of it. All the other ones are. And I

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01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: think if you're gonna do that well and do it consistently,

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01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. If you're actually got a fight

1363
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: career going, you know, fight career is really hard, you know,

1364
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: And I certainly think that like those two things can

1365
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: be juggled by like, you know, the right person at

1366
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 1: the right time, but not by most.

1367
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Speaker 2: We see some stars, you know, championship level that have

1368
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 2: transitioned nicely DC, Michael Bisbeeing who's not my favorite, but

1369
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 2: he's been you know, an announcer and analyst for a while.

1370
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: Do you think do you ever look around the roster

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: and say, like, man, you know, what if I he

1372
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Speaker 2: took a try at it?

1373
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: Now?

1374
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: What if you know with that personality work? I always said,

1375
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 2: obviously now it's a bad time to bring it up,

1376
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: But I always wondered what Connor would have looked like

1377
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: in that role. I wouldn't expect him to be the

1378
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 2: traditional style, but you have to think of somebody like DC,

1379
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 2: where they bring so much entertainment and charisma along with

1380
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 2: the actual analysis. Is there anybody that you wished had

1381
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: tried it out or think could be good at it?

1382
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: Luke not. I think Michael Kiessa could probably be pretty

1383
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: good at it. On the boxing side, I think Chris

1384
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: el Jerry has become really good at it.

1385
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm saying, is there any big name fighters

1386
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 2: that we haven't seen do this that you're that you

1387
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: would be intrigued to see them give it a try?

1388
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: What? The way I interpret that question is have you

1389
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: heard any big name fighter who is especially articulate at

1390
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 1: sharing ideas, verbalizing concepts, anything like that? And the answer

1391
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: is no, I've not. Ye.

1392
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: Tom Cruise another big name guy who has tried.

1393
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 1: But you get to you to the same point, you

1394
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: raise that kind of already doing that, you know.

1395
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

1396
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: No one else I can think of at the present moment.

1397
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: No imagine if they brought in Rousey to be one,

1398
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: just imagine that.

1399
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I literally don't think she could

1400
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: finish a broadcast without storming off. You know.

1401
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 2: Oh it looks like she puts the broad in broadcast

1402
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, dude, come on, that's just so unnecessary.

1403
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 2: All right, here's my cappy Thanksgiving from here in Canada.

1404
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: He says, what do you think is the next country

1405
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: to have a boom period? I'll boom boom period.

1406
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: Luke, cost kill guys of top fighters.

1407
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what sport he's talking about. I'm gonna

1408
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: assume Mma based on our clientele. So, Luke, it used

1409
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 2: to be Brazil right now. It's certainly you know those

1410
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: those Eastern European slash Asian Daugistan area Kazakhstan. I mean,

1411
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: there's some hammers coming out of that area, Luke, we

1412
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,959
Speaker 2: did we know that? What's the next area of note.

1413
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: New England, Kazakhstan. I think Kazakhstan's going to have a

1414
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: big push. They've got regional fights that I've watched a

1415
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 1: few of them, high level guys up and down there,

1416
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: getting a lot of experience, showing a lot of well

1417
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: rounded ability, very similar to what you see with the Dagistani.

1418
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: He's a lot of Sambo tradition there.

1419
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: We're seeing China make big moves to.

1420
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Forget China I think will have a big moment. It's

1421
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: just it's hard to say exactly how far away that is.

1422
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like we're on the cusp of one.

1423
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 2: But maybe Japan when we need them right now to

1424
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: make like.

1425
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 1: Pan already, Japan had a peak twenty years ago.

1426
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 2: What about France, they got they got it, they got to.

1427
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: France has a bright future. Germany has barely scratched the surface.

1428
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: Spain has barely scratched the surface. Like you know, there's

1429
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: a lot of those places I think that are gonna

1430
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: have big next five to ten years.

1431
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, let's go over to Dylan. What's up? Boys?

1432
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:20,599
Speaker 2: Who wins in a fight? Prime? Robbie Lawler versus Prime

1433
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 2: Justin Gae Chee Prime Robbi Lawler, thankful for everything you

1434
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: both have given to the MK nation. Yeah, at the

1435
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: peak of their primes, you would say Robbie Lawler was

1436
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: a more dangerous, better overall fighter.

1437
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: Yes, beat better, competition was bigger. I mean, you know

1438
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: one seventy or verses one fifty five, or could take

1439
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: a punch. I mean obviously the Nick Diaz first fight

1440
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: you would say no, but over time it showed that

1441
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: he could. Yeah. I just feel like, you know, justin

1442
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: Gaichee even in his prime, got hit a lot. You

1443
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 1: just can't get hit by a prime Robbie Lawler that often.

1444
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: Dude, for I love how fun first of all, how

1445
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: fun in general Robby Lawler fights are. I think, you know,

1446
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 2: along with gai Chi, one of the most rewatchable on

1447
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: UFC fight pass of anybody. But how many of those

1448
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: championship fights? Think the two Hendrix fights where Lawler would

1449
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 2: be like dangerous and dominant for two rounds and then

1450
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 2: take like two rounds off knowing that he's gonna come

1451
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 2: back in round five and bring hell fire to Youde.

1452
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: He wouldn't he would? I remember there were several UFC

1453
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: DVDs that I thought back in the day, would It'd

1454
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: be like, dude, what the fuck happened? In round two?

1455
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: His corner I'd be like, oh, I took it off.

1456
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: I just took that shit off. I didn't care. He

1457
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: was notorious for that because he knew he had he

1458
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: had the one fucking hit or quitter right here. All

1459
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: he needed was just a moment and he he'll find it.

1460
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: Look at his career. Dude, Yeah, that's that's an easy

1461
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not even trying to disrespect just to

1462
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: get you who was a phenomenal guy at his own right,

1463
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: But that's just too much firepower from Robber Lawler.

1464
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, dude, I missed Prime Johnny Hendricks he was. I mean,

1465
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: I know it was maybe USADA affiliated, but he was.

1466
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 1: He was fun.

1467
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: Prime Hendricks was fun.

1468
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 1: Luke, he could, I mean, the dude he looked like

1469
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: he said, you've seen the Avengers Infinity War, right? Do

1470
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: you remember you didn't see the first Avengers Infinity War.

1471
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't really watch that. I saw

1472
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: thor Love and Thunder and Black Adam. I don't think

1473
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm going back, Luke.

1474
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: You know, well, there's a scene where like one of

1475
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: the Sorcerers or where the fuck their name is from? Doctor? Doctor?

1476
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 3: Uh?

1477
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: Who was? No? Who is the guy a Long Island Luke,

1478
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to like get on screen, but don't.

1479
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Marvel or any of that shit.

1480
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: You two motherfuckers don't know Photo to child, don't know Marvel?

1481
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 1: What do you know? What do you know? As? Yeah,

1482
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,080
Speaker 1: in marijuana.

1483
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: And food poisoning apparently, but good luck to Long Island

1484
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 2: Luke on that.

1485
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: Anyway, there's a point where it's a scene where where

1486
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: Hulk gets hit and it gets set out of his

1487
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: soul and he just goes flying back like this, and uh,

1488
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: it's what reminded Hendricks flooring John Fitch reminded me of that.

1489
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: I just never seen someone just go like, you know, dude,

1490
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: remember when he did that to Campman too.

1491
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: Yep, Camon didn't have the same kind of chin though.

1492
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 2: That's a little laid him the freak out those hammers.

1493
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: Let's go over to dude. Also, Hendrix looked like he

1494
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,759
Speaker 2: should have been driving a truck with like a dip patch.

1495
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: You know it probably does to this day.

1496
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Tim says, Hey, hey, dear boys, what's your

1497
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 2: favorite part of a fight cycle? Is it one the

1498
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: pre fight build up in prognostications, two, the fight itself,

1499
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 2: three the post fight analysis, and looking forward to future matchups. Sincerely,

1500
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: Rollo from Cleveland and PS Brian, congratulations on the publication

1501
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: of your autobiography entitled I've never been on OnlyFans except

1502
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: when I'm breathings. That's pretty good. Look, if there are

1503
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 2: three parts of the fight cycle, the build up and

1504
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: the promotion of it, the fight itself, or the post

1505
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: fight analysis and prognostication, which is your favorite?

1506
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, easily the I mean, how can this even be

1507
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: a question? The answer is the fight itself is by

1508
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: far the most interesting. The post fight is the second

1509
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: most interesting, and the pre fighters.

1510
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: For the dogs, I disagree.

1511
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: Raise your hand if you're a dog, BC, raise it.

1512
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 1: Put that motherfucking pall on the air. There you go.

1513
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 2: I will say that my favorite part is number one.

1514
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 2: The anticipation, the optimism that you're allowed to have because

1515
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: you haven't seen the fight yet, it hasn't sucked. You

1516
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 2: can talk yourself into it, like I've had to do

1517
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 2: in boxing for years. I love the build, Luke. The

1518
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 2: build is just anything can happen, Dude. Think about it.

1519
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 2: When you get a great build where it's saucy, there's

1520
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 2: pushing at the way in, there's trash, talk. Sometimes it

1521
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: doesn't even matter if the fight lives up to the expectations,

1522
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: because you I'm telling you, it's look you got. I

1523
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,600
Speaker 2: can't believe that you dislike It's one thing to say, no,

1524
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 2: I prefer the fight itself. In theory, we all should

1525
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 2: prefer the fight itself. But you're basically completely dismissing the

1526
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 2: fanfare of it, the excitement, the hype building, the I get.

1527
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: That it's an integral part of the fight experience. I

1528
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 1: certainly would never in a million years challenge it, but

1529
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: it's it's integral for the donks. That's who's integral for

1530
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 1: like the digity docs.

1531
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: Well count me in, Luke. Okay, if peeting your pants

1532
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 2: is cool, then yeah, all right, let's go to skull Murphy,

1533
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: he says. Happy holidays, y'all. Luke. What's your favorite area

1534
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: or town in the DMV area and what's your least favorite?

1535
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 2: And BC does your hometown have a rival? Dude, town

1536
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 2: of Naugatuck, Connecticut has a monster rival for the last

1537
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty something years, every single Thanksgiving when

1538
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 2: we take on that dirt whole town of the an

1539
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: Sonia Chargers. Luke, you know what I mean Stanford. Steve

1540
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 2: is one of the biggest stars in Ansonia history. What

1541
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: a bunch of even though I love Steve, what a

1542
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: bunch of absolute dirt holes down there, Luke. You know

1543
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. For years, we used to own that rivalry,

1544
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: and now Noggy really only wins like once every ten years,

1545
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: and it's very humiliating against just such absolute dirt baggagery

1546
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 2: that comes out of Ansonia. You know, we are north,

1547
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: so the river, the Naugatuck River, flows south, so they

1548
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: get all of our chemicals and ship for years. Luke. Okay,

1549
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: what's your least and most favorite area of the DMV

1550
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:18,839
Speaker 2: Chevy Chase, Luke.

1551
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't ever get over to north dude. It's interesting.

1552
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 1: So the city is built on a quadrant system northeast, southeast, southwest, northwest.

1553
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: The main one that everyone considers d C is northwest.

1554
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 1: I have never in my entire life lived in Northwest.

1555
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: I have always always always lived outside of that. So

1556
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: you're talking about Chevy Chases on part of DC and

1557
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: on the other side. There's actually two Chevy Chases. There's

1558
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: one in Maryland and then one in DC. But no,

1559
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: I don't ever go to that area. I don't ever

1560
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 1: hang out in that area. I would say that. You know,

1561
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting. When I was a kid, DC had

1562
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: a real Chinatown, like a real China town, and then

1563
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: that all changed in the late eighties and early nineties.

1564
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 1: They all moved to the suburbs. So, like, if you're

1565
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: looking for like dope a Asian food in the area,

1566
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: and I do mean that, like Chinese, Japanese, lat Laotian,

1567
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, you name it, all the different kinds you had,

1568
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: there's so many Annandale has it, Rockville has it. Like

1569
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: there's so many places that have awesome you know obviously

1570
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: in Fairfax as well, fantastic Asian food. But if we're

1571
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,560
Speaker 1: talking like just places that I don't I like to

1572
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: visit in the area, it's got to be Old Town Alexandria.

1573
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: Old Town Alexandria is like, you know, it's just it's

1574
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It's really, really, really really beautiful.

1575
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,440
Speaker 2: Do you like Chinatown?

1576
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: I do like Chinatown, but it's not Chinatown anymore. I mean,

1577
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,879
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's a couple of like really important

1578
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: Chinese businesses that have stayed, but the vast majority have left.

1579
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's depressing in that sense, worst

1580
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: part of the d m V. That's a great one, Dude,

1581
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:51,719
Speaker 1: Springfield Virginia sucks my balls. And hope everyone from Springfield,

1582
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: Virginia hears me saying that, you know that fucking place blows.

1583
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: And I can say this with great confidence because my

1584
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: dad lived there when my parents divorced for a little

1585
01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 1: bit time and I had to spend some time out there.

1586
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: Did he have divorced dad vibes at the time?

1587
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 1: Dude, my dad is the fuck you ever see You

1588
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: ever seen that picture of shot Cut rock Monov with

1589
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: like an eagle on one hand? Yeah, a wolf in

1590
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: the other and he's got that's if that was being

1591
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: a divorced dad energy. That's my dad is Shotcut rock Monov,

1592
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 1: like the most divorced man you can fathom.

1593
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, bald spot, ponytail and convertible or what?

1594
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:25,560
Speaker 3: No?

1595
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,839
Speaker 1: No, no, no, didn't have the ponytail, but definitely infrequent showering.

1596
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I just let's just set that up.

1597
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 2: Have a sports car? Please tell me he bought a

1598
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,839
Speaker 2: sports car after.

1599
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: It he dated? He didn't, but he at the time

1600
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 1: dated a woman who had a sports car. And the

1601
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: license this is this is long sense changed, but had

1602
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: a license plate that said Pizzazzi. I fucking swear to God.

1603
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: I fucking swear to God. That's a I've never told

1604
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: that story. How eighties and nineties divorced Dad? Is that

1605
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: ship when you're driving around with a Pizzazzi sports car convertible?

1606
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:02,839
Speaker 1: Holy fucking ship. Bro Anyway, Springfield blows. There's nothing interesting

1607
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: about it. It's just an intersection of highways in seven elevens.

1608
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Go fuck yourself.

1609
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 2: Springs, Silver Spring, Maryland blows.

1610
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: Silver Spring, Maryland's okay. The Fillmore is there, and I

1611
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: go to a lot of concerts there. You can also bike,

1612
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 1: you know, from DC to Silver Spring. There's actually two

1613
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: Columbian restaurants in Silver Spring, one of which has a

1614
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: Columbrian grocery store inside of it. So I don't shit

1615
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: on Silver Spring. I kind of like Silver Spring a

1616
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: little bit. It's not it's not great, but it's all right,

1617
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: all right.

1618
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 2: If you wanted to get killed, which section would you

1619
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: go to first? In Greater DMV.

1620
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I hate to say this, but I think

1621
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: the place where the highest crime rates are probably going

1622
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: to be in Prince George's County. That's where all the

1623
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: great athletes are. Many of the great athletes anyway are

1624
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: from Kevin Durant is from Seat Pleasant. I lived for

1625
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: a time in PG County when I when this house

1626
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: was getting repaired, and I had to spend time like

1627
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 1: renting an apartment, like month over month because I this

1628
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: place was still under construction. I lived in a place

1629
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 1: called Oxen Hill. Now Oxen Hill now has like the

1630
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: MGM Casino, it's a totally different but dude, back then,

1631
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 1: I just could not believe how much daily crime I

1632
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: witnessed living in Oxen Hill, Maryland. And I lived off

1633
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: a place if you anyone from the area will know,

1634
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 1: off Indian Head Highway, not for the Fate of Heart,

1635
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 1: like just a very very rough area. This is circa

1636
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and five probably there unfortunately, but that doesn't

1637
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: mean it's not good places in Beg County. But it's

1638
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: got a lot of rough areas too.

1639
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 2: I wish you had, you know, been able to live

1640
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 2: in one town or one school system your whole life,

1641
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 2: so you could feel what a real high school rivalry

1642
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: is like, Luke, I know you could. You had a

1643
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: cup of coffee with Valdosta and their you know wars

1644
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: with uh with the Lima Brothers High School.

1645
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: But it's only the winningest high school football team in

1646
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 1: the country.

1647
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 2: But you know, nobody really cares that much. They care

1648
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: more about the Nougata Valley League, the NVAU.

1649
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: Netflix has a show about my high school. Do they have?

1650
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: What about yours? I don't think that they do.

1651
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: No, Oh, no, they don't they NFL Films.

1652
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: Has a documentary about my high school. I don't think

1653
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 1: that they have.

1654
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it really your high school? You were

1655
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 2: there for like two weeks, so.

1656
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 1: Two years, and my brother graduated from there, so you know,

1657
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: did I graduate from there? That kind of is the

1658
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: real demarcation line.

1659
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 2: Where did you graduate from?

1660
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: Marietta High? Marrietta High? I went there junior senior. Did

1661
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: you know, changing changing high schools in the middle of

1662
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 1: high school? Zero out of ten do not recommend.

1663
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: Not fun, fun, not getting laid from that transaction.

1664
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I eventually did. But the junior year

1665
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 1: was it was a rebuild year, you know what I'm saying.

1666
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 1: We had to build through the draft, you know what

1667
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 1: I mean.

1668
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: Definitely We've got one more from Adam Hello BC and lt.

1669
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: What is your favorite Thanksgiving leftover's meal? So Luke, let's

1670
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: say let's say you had Thanksgiving at your house and

1671
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 2: then you had access to all of the leftovers. When

1672
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 2: you go to make a perfect next day Thanksgiving leftover lunch,

1673
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 2: what what is that? What? Because you're reaching for your

1674
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 2: favorites at that point.

1675
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:13,839
Speaker 1: The answer is very simple. Mostly carbs, protein, and gravy.

1676
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: So let me let me give you an example. Here's

1677
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: how I'm filling it up. We're gonna get leftover mac

1678
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: and cheese, boom, leftover or whatever they make potatoes or

1679
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: whatever variety of potatoes they made. Did they do they

1680
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 1: crisp them up? Do they not? Doesn't matter, you're throwing

1681
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: them on there. Then you're gonna get some of the

1682
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: leftover meat that still looks the best, whether you and

1683
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 1: any of you like the breast or like the the

1684
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, the the wing or whatever. Then you put

1685
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 1: that on there, and then you just cover that motherfucker

1686
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 1: and gravy, fire it up in the microwaves to get

1687
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: it nice or not, and then that's what I'm eating.

1688
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going back to salads. I'm not going back

1689
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: to veggies.

1690
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 2: No, Like my dad comes from an era, or you

1691
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 2: got you, or you have turkey sandwiches for days afterwards.

1692
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: I'm not into that. I'm gonna take a piece of

1693
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 2: meat pie in the center of the plate and then

1694
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 2: build around it strategically like I'm playing risk.

1695
01:23:58,840 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: You know.

1696
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 2: I put the the the mashed potatoes, the corn, the stuffing,

1697
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 2: the cranberry stuff. But it has to be the cheap

1698
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 2: no no, no chunks cranberry.

1699
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: I always forget that. You're the one of the people

1700
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: that eats the ship out of the can.

1701
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: And then you put then you cover it in great

1702
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: actually you cover it in corn, and then you cover

1703
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 2: it in gravy. And yeah, it's I mean, it's the

1704
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 2: best meal. It's the best thing ever. Thank you very much.

1705
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,680
Speaker 2: That's all we got for questions today, Luke. Thank you

1706
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: to our people for sending them in. You know, by

1707
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 2: the time people will listen to this and watch this,

1708
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,799
Speaker 2: it's Friday, so get ready. PFL going to be on shortly.

1709
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 2: Uh But Luke, I hope you have a great rest

1710
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,800
Speaker 2: of the holiday weekend. Unplug a little.

1711
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see ma Wana too. I'm gonna take twos

1712
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 1: to see mo Wana too.

1713
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 2: Is that a Dwayne the Rock Johnson production.

1714
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 1: I think he's in it. Certainly he's played a big

1715
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: role in the first one. But you know, hey, listen

1716
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: does doesn't matter what I like. What matters what she likes.

1717
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: So there you go, There you go.

1718
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: I really just want to continue to wish the thanks

1719
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: the love out to all the great fans who keep

1720
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 2: MK afloat. I mean, look, we've gotten to know so

1721
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: many of them their life. By the way, dude, by

1722
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 2: the way, I'm happy about this. A fellow named Chandler

1723
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 2: an MK Donk DM slid me and said, hey, dude,

1724
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 2: I'm He said that because of MK he became friendly

1725
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 2: with Damien the Donk. Remember MK Donk of the Year

1726
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty Do you remember that, Luke Yes? And this

1727
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: man Chandler says that Damien the Donk is alive and well,

1728
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 2: not incarcerated, living a happy life. They talk all the time.

1729
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 2: I don't know if he still watches our show. I

1730
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: don't know if he watches MMA anymore. But we put

1731
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 2: out a call out there, you know, a wellness check,

1732
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: if you will. Seems like he's doing well despite having

1733
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 2: the kind of tattoos that will, you know, get you

1734
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: a reputation in the pen a reputation.

1735
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 1: How about entry into a white supremacist gang.

1736
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 2: Okay, do you have a message for Damian the donken All.

1737
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear he's doing well. I'm never gonna

1738
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 1: be upset at hearing news that people are thriving. So

1739
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: whatever it is that he's doing that's making him happy,

1740
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: If it's us, if it's not what, it doesn't matter.

1741
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Keep doing that. That's all I care about.

1742
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: All Right, I got a great idea. One of my

1743
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: favorite things and ending this podcast now shortly. One of

1744
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,640
Speaker 2: my favorite things in this job is when we are

1745
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: let's say Radio Row for boxing or the Bellatur interview

1746
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 2: special we've done before at Mohegan where it's just like

1747
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: it's a run of people coming in. We don't know

1748
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 2: the order, we don't know who, but whoever slides in next,

1749
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 2: they're gonna sit down with us. We're gonna have fun interviews.

1750
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I want to schedule an interview show, Luke, where you

1751
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 2: have no idea who's coming next.

1752
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I do that.

1753
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you agree to that.

1754
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: I didn't say they we're gonna be good interviews, but

1755
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 1: I'd agree that.

1756
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: To so no matter who comes onto that zoom call.

1757
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna do. You're gonna try and book, Yauanna,

1758
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna try and book John Jones. You're gonna try

1759
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: and book like you know, the like the Avengers of

1760
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: people I don't want to talk to.

1761
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking more like Appy and Damie and

1762
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,360
Speaker 2: the Dog. But yeah, sure, you know what I mean,

1763
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: I'll go after John Jones.

1764
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Why not?

1765
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? All right?

1766
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, happy, I mean I'll just hang up.

1767
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just not you know, Okay, Well, let's

1768
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: make that idea of reality in twenty five. But until then,

1769
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you Long Island.

1770
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Luke.

1771
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 2: I hope you feel better, sir. You can follow us

1772
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 2: right there on the socials like and subscribe if you haven't.

1773
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Let's continue to take MK to the next level.

1774
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: Luke.

1775
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 2: My dream, my new goal is for at some point

1776
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 2: in the near future, people will go hey. In hindsight,

1777
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four might not have been the best year

1778
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: for the MK brand, but those were my favorite shows

1779
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,719
Speaker 2: they ever. Did you think someone will.

1780
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Ever say that? No, No, I don't think that's really

1781
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: even remotely anything anyone's going to say.

1782
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 2: All right, we always have next year, Luke.

1783
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: Thank you so I will say this. I will say

1784
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 1: this to everyone. I mean, it's quite sincerely obviously, thank

1785
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 1: you to everyone who has been a part of the

1786
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Okay experience. And whatever day you have been on and

1787
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: the longer the better. Separate from that. Do not drink

1788
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: and drive, everybody, Do not fucking drink and drive. Get

1789
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: an uber, call a cab, do whatever the fuck you

1790
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 1: gotta do. Do not get behind the wheel of a vehicle.

1791
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: If you have been having some drinks and enjoying yourself,

1792
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: which is okay, just don't drive afterwards. Please text somebody

1793
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: for a call, somebody uber, somebody, do the right thing.

1794
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and don't hang out with Connor McGregor.

1795
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can only go to bad places it seems

1796
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: that way.

1797
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: All right. That's it. That's all we got MK for life.

1798
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 2: We are out of here.