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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: with you. Senator, nice to chat with you today, and

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Speaker 1: let's start with the big headline that so many people,

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Speaker 1: especially in the Catholic faith, are talking about, and that

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Speaker 1: is the fact that it looks like the FBI was

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Speaker 1: trying to infiltrate Catholic groups and using trying to use

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Speaker 1: people in the church to basically become, you know, FBI informants.

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Speaker 1: There's also a lot of people that are asking the question, now,

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Speaker 1: did the FBI lie to Congress about this, saying I

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Speaker 1: don't know, we didn't do this, and now it's coming

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Speaker 1: to light that, in fact, this was actually happening. Your

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Speaker 1: initial reaction to that, well, I think these reports are

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Speaker 1: very concerning. We have seen that the Biden Justice Department

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Speaker 1: has a persistent animosity to religious faith and that they

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Speaker 1: are willing to weaponize the Department of Justice in the

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Speaker 1: FI to target people of faith. We've seen that in

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Speaker 1: a host of different context We've seen that, for example,

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Speaker 1: in their unwillingness to prosecute the protesters who are committing

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Speaker 1: federal crimes by protesting outside the homes of Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: justices and because the Attorney General disagrees with the dab's decision,

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Speaker 1: he refuses to prosecute even a single one of them.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, we've also seen the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: in the Department of Justice and the FBI bring very

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Speaker 1: limited prosecutorial resources to going after violent terrorists who are attacking,

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Speaker 1: who are vandalizing, who are firebombing crisis pregnancy centers. Again,

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Speaker 1: because they're politics, they don't prioritize those acts of violence.

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Speaker 1: And now the latest news we knew publicly because of

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Speaker 1: a whistleblower who had leaked it that one of the

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Speaker 1: field officers the Richmond Field Office of the FBI had

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Speaker 1: written a document that was entitled interest of racially or

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Speaker 1: ethnically motivated violent extremists in radical traditionalist Catholic ideology almost

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Speaker 1: certainly presents new mitigation opportunities. And so this this memo

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Speaker 1: was called a domain perspective, was leaked by a whistleblower,

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Speaker 1: and when Chris Ray, the head of the FBI, was

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Speaker 1: asked before the Senate Judiciary Committee about it, he denounced

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Speaker 1: the document and he said the document was appalling and

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Speaker 1: that it had been withdrawn. Well, what has now broken

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Speaker 1: this week is that Jim Jordan and the House Committee

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Speaker 1: on the Weaponization of Law Enforcement has a public that

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Speaker 1: the FBI and in particular the Richmond Field Office was

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Speaker 1: using undercover agents and in particular at least one undercover

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Speaker 1: employee to try to penetrate local Catholic churches. And so,

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Speaker 1: for example, this is a quote from the Opportunities that

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Speaker 1: part of the memo. It says, in addition to redaction,

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Speaker 1: we don't know what's under the redaction, engage an outreach

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Speaker 1: to the leadership of other Society of Saint Pious, the

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Speaker 1: tenth Chapels in the FBI Richmond Area of responsibility to

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Speaker 1: sensitize these congregations to the warning signs of radicalization and

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Speaker 1: to enlist their assistance to serve as suspicious activity trip wires.

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Speaker 1: And so this piece, Chris Ray had not indicated before

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Speaker 1: that the FBI was was placing undercover operatives. Well, I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether they were trying to recruit undercover sources

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Speaker 1: from within the Catholic Church or whether they were trying

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Speaker 1: to place agents undercover. Either way, that that is a

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Speaker 1: major escalation from what was known previously, and it's very concerning.

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Speaker 1: It also has to concern you the fact that we're

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Speaker 1: not getting straight answers yet again from the DOJ and

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Speaker 1: the FBI. And this isn't the first time that's happening.

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Speaker 1: We've had reports even they have come out recently about

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Speaker 1: the White House may have actually been involved or at

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Speaker 1: least read in on the Donald Trump Marlago raid. We

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Speaker 1: know that they lied about, you know, having parents be

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Speaker 1: labeled as domestic terrorists is another example there that we're

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Speaker 1: going to school boards. I mean, there have been quite

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Speaker 1: a few instances now where the documents call into question

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Speaker 1: the FBI and the DOJ on their explanations when they

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Speaker 1: come before you and your fellow members of Congress, where

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Speaker 1: their stories don't add up. You can be old fashioned

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Speaker 1: to say, it seems like they're lying to you guys

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Speaker 1: on a pretty regular basis. Well, unfortunately, neither the FBI

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Speaker 1: nor the Department of Justice have shown really any willingness

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Speaker 1: In with both the Attorney General and the head of

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Speaker 1: the FBI, they are highly resistant to answering questions. They

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Speaker 1: typically will stonewall, they'll refuse to answer any specifics. By

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Speaker 1: the way that they've done this persistently concerning January six.

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Speaker 1: When I've questioned the Department of Justice, when I've questioned

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Speaker 1: they refuse to answer. When I've questioned them about ray Epps,

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Speaker 1: they refuse to answer. They simply stonewall. When I asked

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Speaker 1: is highly concerning. That there's an attitude within the FBI

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Speaker 1: and the Department of Justice that they get to decide

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Speaker 1: the rules, they get to decide what's acceptable, and that

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Speaker 1: I think it's producing an enormous lack of trust in

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Speaker 1: law enforcement. It's it's the reason I wrote the book

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Speaker 1: a few months ago, Justice Corrupted, How the Left is

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Speaker 1: weaponize the legal system, because in that book, I outlined

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Speaker 1: how under Joe Biden, the Department of Justice and the

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Speaker 1: FBI have deliberately been turned into weapons to target the

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Speaker 1: political opponents of this administration. And with regard to the

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Speaker 1: to the targeting of the Catholic Church. Look, these documents

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Speaker 1: indicate that they see as a quote warning sign people

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Speaker 1: who attend Latin masses. Now, now that that is Latin

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Speaker 1: masses are something attended by millions of people across the

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Speaker 1: world and simply being following traditional Catholic beliefs. The idea

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Speaker 1: that that is indicative of being a criminal, or being

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Speaker 1: violent or being a terrorist, it is absurd. But but

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Speaker 1: it also it demonstrates a deep animosity and distrust to

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Speaker 1: people of faith and and and and this is it's

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Speaker 1: a pattern that that that's sadly, the FBI director seems

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Speaker 1: to have little or no interest in in drilling down

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Speaker 1: and holding the people accountable who are demonstrating this animosity. Center.

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Speaker 1: On Tuesday, I was hosting out Numbered on Fox. I

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Speaker 1: was in New York and we were sitting there talking

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Speaker 1: about this exact now, Ben, Ben, is that is that

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Speaker 1: known as a humble bragg? That's a humble bragg right

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Speaker 1: there right? You know the other day when I was

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, go ahead, Ben, I didn't interrupt now, but

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Speaker 1: we were sitting there on set and they were talking

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Speaker 1: want Congress to ask forget the Catholic part just for

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Speaker 1: a moment, because I think now the question has to be, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're now an extremist in the eyes of the

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Speaker 1: very traditional Catholic Mass, then who else is on this list?

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Speaker 1: And how many other religions are they trying to infiltrate

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Speaker 1: after Methodists? Are they going after Presbyterians? My question now is, well,

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Speaker 1: if they're doing this with Catholics and and and those

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Speaker 1: now you're an extremist traditionalist Catholic, all right? You used

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Speaker 1: If they're doing this and labeling this on Catholics, I

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Speaker 1: and who else are they sitting these guidance out on

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Speaker 1: their religions or conservative groups. If you're on the Tea Party,

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Speaker 1: if you've gone to Republican convention, if you've gone to

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Speaker 1: a Ted Cruise event, a rally, are you now on

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Speaker 1: a list as well. Well. We know that they define

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Speaker 1: extremist by politics, and their definition of extremist is anyone

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Speaker 1: who disagrees with their politics. With regard to Tea Party groups,

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Speaker 1: we know that the Obama IRS explicitly targeted Tea Party

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Speaker 1: that they targeted groups that defended the Constitution because they

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Speaker 1: and that all of that is detailed. There's an entire

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Speaker 1: chapter in Justice Corrupted called the Irs Comes Knocking that

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Speaker 1: walks through chapter and verse. And it's worth remembering. When

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Speaker 1: that story broke that the Obama IRS was targeting Tea

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Speaker 1: Party groups and conservative groups, Barack Obama publicly gave a

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Speaker 1: an abusive power. And then what happened was the Obama

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Speaker 1: Lois Lerner pleaded the fifth refused, it refused to testify

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Speaker 1: they stonewalled across the board. If you look at this

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Speaker 1: this recent FBI memo, they explicitly focus on politics. So

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Speaker 1: for example, this is a quote from the memo. The

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Speaker 1: ongoing convergence of the far right white nationalist movement and

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Speaker 1: RTCs RTCs of their fancy acronym for quote radical Traditionalist

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Speaker 1: and the aftermath of the Supreme Court's Dobbs League. In

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Speaker 1: other words, if you're pro life, that is an indication

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Speaker 1: That is highly, highly concerning. Well, let's talk about another

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Speaker 1: see this in the NBA. You see at the NFL

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Speaker 1: these incredibly rich athletes who hypocritically dis dane their fans

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: and customers and who lecture them almost inevitably from a

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00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: point of ignorance. So Greg Popovitch is telling you that

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Speaker 1: that that it's a myth that the Second Amendment protects

435
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Speaker 1: your rights. It's a myth that the Second Amendment protects

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Speaker 1: your freedoms. I mean, I mean, that's a fairly astonishing proposition.

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Speaker 1: And I would note, Uh, you've been to NBA games.

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Speaker 1: I've been to NBA games. You know what, there are

439
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: a lot of at NBA games, a lot of security,

440
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 1: armed police officers with weapons strapped in their holsters. Uh.

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00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: You know, Popovich is surrounded by armed security most of

442
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Speaker 1: the time. And and this is true, This is true

443
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: with so many Hollywood liberals that have armed bodyguards protecting them.

444
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: And they say, you little people, you don't have a

445
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: right to defend your family. You don't have a right

446
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: to defend your children. But me, I'm gonna be surrounded

447
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: in perfect safety and take away your rights to defend yourself.

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00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean that Unfortunately, that that kind of condescension is

449
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: all too common. But beyond that, he also, uh, you know,

450
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: went after me by name. Now listen, this is not new. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is the same guy who supported Beto

452
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Speaker 1: O'Rourke when he ran against me. And you know when

453
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Speaker 1: when Beto O'Rourke said, damn right, we're going to take

454
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Speaker 1: your guns. You know, I guess Popovich was cheering because

455
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Speaker 1: you know, he has his police officers to protect him,

456
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Speaker 1: so what does he care about if you can defend

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Speaker 1: your family. But but I thought it was really striking

458
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Speaker 1: what what he went after me at in this this

459
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: little rant. He went after me for proposing that we

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Speaker 1: double the number of police officers in schools. He says,

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Speaker 1: do you want that? Let me be clear, yes, I

462
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: want that. Look, I don't get this, this recent conceit

463
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Speaker 1: of leftists that police officers don't may us more safe.

464
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Speaker 1: But like it is a bizarre view. Listen, it is

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Speaker 1: horrific the rise in violent crime that we've seen across

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Speaker 1: this country. But leftists like Popovich put none of the

467
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Speaker 1: blame on George Soros DA's that are releasing murderers. They

468
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Speaker 1: put none of the blame on the leftist that they

469
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Speaker 1: support who are calling for abolishing the police. Instead, they

470
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Speaker 1: put the blame on you for exercising your right to

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Speaker 1: keep in bare arms to protect your family and your children.

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Speaker 1: And and it is Look, if you look at the

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Speaker 1: number one factor that stops a violent crime. It is

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Speaker 1: an armed police officer who stops that crime. And look,

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's a very strange thing for the

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Speaker 1: left that they just they have decided cops are bad.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this right now. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: if someone stood up and said we're gonna pull all

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Speaker 1: the police officers from Greg Popovich's neighborhood, he'd be horrified.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I'd be horrified someone announced they were

481
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Speaker 1: pulling the police officers from my neighborhood. I'd be like,

482
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: that's a terrible idea. I want officers to keep my

483
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Speaker 1: family safe. I want officers to keep his family safe.

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Speaker 1: But there's a political talking point now that if you

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Speaker 1: want to keep our kids safe, clearly police officers are

486
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Speaker 1: not going to do anything to help. That's just weird

487
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: and it's stupid and it's counterfactual. Yeah, I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: I texted why you were talking there to a buddy

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Speaker 1: of mine that played in the NBA, actually played for Papovich,

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Speaker 1: and I asked him, I said, I got to ask

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Speaker 1: you quickly. I said, I won't use your name. What

492
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: was a security like when you were at the Spurs

493
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: specifically around you and the team, and he wrote back,

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Speaker 1: I'm reading this exactly like this is. I just got

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00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: this in real time. He said. One, all, at all

496
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Speaker 1: times on the road, we had a security detail with us.

497
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: When we were at practice, there were security details with us.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you got to the facility, there was

499
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Speaker 1: security detailed there. There was heavy security at every away

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Speaker 1: and or home game, security in the tunnel, security outside

501
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: the locker room, and security to our cars that included

502
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff after games. And of course there is look,

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Speaker 1: I just criticized that. My point is your hypocrisy that

504
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: you're mentioning. Yep, this is a coach that has and

505
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: again it's a former player saying this. He had security

506
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Speaker 1: around him all the time when he traveled, all the

507
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: time when he's on the bench. He also just said

508
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: there were three police officers around their bench at all times,

509
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: at least three. He's still texting me as we speak.

510
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: He said. On the road, they had a head of

511
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: security that was with them at all times. We planned

512
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: all of their security with the hotels, me and two

513
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: and from the arenas on the road. He said, In essence,

514
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: we had twenty four hour security around us for all

515
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: operations around the team that included the coach. So he's

516
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: got basically twenty four hour security for him, but he

517
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: mocks your idea of having that for our children. Yeah. Yeah,

518
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: for some reason, the protection that that is suitable to

519
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: ultra wealthy left wing athletes is not suitable for our children.

520
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: They deserve less protection beyond that. So so I'll say

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00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: two two stories. One, you know, I just went a

522
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: week ago to a Rockets game, um where where the

523
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Speaker 1: Rockets were playing. And actually my daughter Katherine, who's twelve

524
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: h was was one of the dancers at halftime. She's

525
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Speaker 1: in a girl's dance troupe and they had a bunch

526
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Speaker 1: of a bunch of kids dancing at halftime. She did awesome.

527
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Speaker 1: It was I I was chaired her on and had

528
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Speaker 1: a blast and she really that they did a fantastic

529
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: job at halftime. But at the game, which was just

530
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: in the last week, you know, there were I must

531
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: have talked with myself thirty police officers maybe more. And

532
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: and that's great. You want police officers at something like

533
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: a like a game because you don't want anyone to

534
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: commit an act of violence. That keeps us safe. That's

535
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: a good thing. I'll also tell you a few months ago,

536
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: I was visiting a friend of mine on the East

537
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Coast and he's someone who who every week trains doing

538
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, and somehow he talked me into joining him

539
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: doing jiu jitsu, which which is not something I do

540
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: as a kid, I took judo for several years. But

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Speaker 1: I'm trying not to laugh right now. Center. You know

542
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: this is how you get real injuries. Well I know,

543
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: and like I'm sitting there going, Okay, I'm gonna get

544
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: at tendon hyper extended, I'm gonna get something. But he

545
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: brought me in to train with where he trains regularly,

546
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: and I said it was actually it was really really fun.

547
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: But the guy who who was who was doing the

548
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: training was a police officer who traveled with an NBA

549
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: team doing security for them. And say was, you know,

550
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: a very high level black belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu

551
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: and a police officer and he helped leave the security

552
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: for an NBA team. That's a good thing, But explain

553
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: to me why what's good for the rich guys is

554
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: not good for everybody else. Maybe you should have just

555
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: described as I want the same security for our kids

556
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: that coach Popovitz kids, and then it would then he

557
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't have said anything. Maybe that's how we should move forward,

558
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: saying I just want the same protection that the NBA

559
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: gives to their players and at the arenas for our children.

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00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: You know, Unfortunately part of it is the social pressure.

561
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 1: You notice that there are not NBA coaches. Look Steve

562
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: Kerr as another one who is a very loud and

563
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: outspoken leftist, and he usually pops off, you know, pops

564
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: off with with inane leftist, hyperpartisan statements, and they are

565
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: rarely carefully reasoned. Um. You know, I remember some years

566
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: back Steve Nash, who was a great player but when

567
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: he was a coach, had a quote. And I'm doing

568
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Speaker 1: this for a memory, so I may get it slightly wrong,

569
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Speaker 1: but my recollection is his quote was something to the

570
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: effect of all wars are immoral. There have never been

571
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: any good wars. And I remember thinking at the time

572
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: he said it that that was a very odd statement.

573
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: I look, I am, I don't like war. I think

574
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: we should avoid war. But but I really wish some

575
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: reporter had asked him, excuse me, coach, could you name

576
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: five wars? I mean, I mean, you've just given us

577
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: a statement about history. In the history of just name

578
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: five wars. Now, what's interesting is very quickly like if

579
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Speaker 1: he had to name five wars, I don't know if

580
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: he could, but let's assume hypothetically he could. Maybe he

581
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Speaker 1: goes to the Civil War, maybe he goes to the

582
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Speaker 1: American Revolutionary War, maybe he goes to World War One

583
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: or World War Two. I'll bet you twenty bucks if

584
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: you ask him to name five wars. He can't do

585
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: it without naming World War Two. Yeah, and he can.

586
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: And he can't do it without naming the Civil War.

587
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: And I would challenge any leftist give me your argument

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00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: for why World War Two was an immoral war. Why

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00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: stopping Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, why stopping the Holocaust,

590
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: why stopping the face of evil was an immoral war?

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00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you, when our boys scaled the cliffs

592
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: of Normandy, I think it was one of the greatest

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: acts of heroism the world is ever seen. In the

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00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: Civil War, I'd be very interested to hear a leftists

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00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: explain why it was immoral to fight a war that

596
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: resulted in ending the abomination of slavery in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and the problem is all of the political dynamics in

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Speaker 1: modern sports. Tell players, tell coaches, you can get involved

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00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,880
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602
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: If you're disrespecting our police officers, that's great. But you

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00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: certainly can't say anything pro America, pro police, pro anything

604
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: that is other than left of center. Yeah, and it's

605
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: really sad, but this is the NBA now, and this

606
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: is what's happening with all these teams are trying to

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613
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614
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Speaker 1: be taking place. I'm happy it's happening. Budweiser decided to

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Speaker 1: beer can and give them a deal to go woke.

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Speaker 1: This is part of their new marketing campaign. Are you

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Speaker 1: gonna throw away your bud light and go to white call? Now?

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Speaker 1: What happens? Well, look, it is an amazing phenomenon. How

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Speaker 1: woke corporations have decided that their customers are idiots that

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Speaker 1: they look down on their customers. We're seeing big business

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Speaker 1: after big business in brace the radical left, embrace a

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Speaker 1: left wing and Jenda in this case and Drey embrace

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Speaker 1: someone who's transgender. Put them forth as this is the

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Speaker 1: spokesperson for bud Light. What when I saw this whole thing,

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Speaker 1: my first thought was, have they ever met a typical

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Speaker 1: I'm just talking about just straight up dumb beer drinker,

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Speaker 1: especially dudes at drink Beer. They do not want a

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Speaker 1: can with a dude dress like a chick. That's just nothing.

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Speaker 1: That's something you want. And listen, if it were you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, dark cherry flavored hard cider, maybe maybe that's

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Speaker 1: a marketing play that makes sense. But this is bud Light,

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Speaker 1: and you know the idea that it's like they're not

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Speaker 1: interested in what the customers want. They want to be

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Speaker 1: part of the problem is Madison Avenue is hardcore left wing.

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Speaker 1: You look and you look at this across the board

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Um. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we saw this with the NFL. The NFL likewise looks

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Speaker 1: down on the typical fan who goes to an NFL game. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I got to say, it's it's it's making people

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Speaker 1: pissed off. What's interesting is the backlash In a lot

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Speaker 1: good at Boycott's and so companies feel they can do

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Speaker 1: this with impunity. Um, this spud light issue is getting

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Speaker 1: some some real traction, it seems to me. And and

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Speaker 1: the phrase go woco broke listen, I think this is

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Speaker 1: this has gone beyond just Twitter to two people saying,

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Speaker 1: you know what, there are other beers on the market.

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Speaker 1: And I got to tell you in my instance, so

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Speaker 1: a company that pushed me over the edge was Nike,

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Speaker 1: and Nike I didn't. I didn't like the Colin Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: thing at all. It really pissed me off. But even

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Speaker 1: then it didn't it didn't push me away from Nike.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't until that they began actually to go back

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Speaker 1: to the FBI story we started the podcast with the

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Speaker 1: FBI identified the Betsy Ross flag as a symbol of extremism. Well,

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Speaker 1: you remember Nike decided to pull the Betsy Ross flag

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Speaker 1: off one of their sneakers because people like Colin Kaepernick

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Speaker 1: wine happy with it. And that was the point where

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Speaker 1: I said, all right, enough is enough, and I got

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Speaker 1: to tell you that, look, they don't care if I

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Speaker 1: buy their products. But I was not only a Nike consumer.

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Speaker 1: I was an incredibly loyal Nike consumer. Like every pair

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Speaker 1: of tennis shoes I had owned from being a kid

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Speaker 1: till my mid forties was a Nike that that's just

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Speaker 1: what I bought. I bought Nikes. Every pair of athletic

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Speaker 1: shorts and T shirts that I wore to play basketball

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Speaker 1: or sports or do whatever. Almost everything single thing I

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Speaker 1: owned were Nikes. And I just finally said, enough is enough.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to support a company that has decided

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Speaker 1: it's business model is mock an attack America. The problem

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Speaker 1: is that, you know it's not. Nike stock has continued

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Speaker 1: to do fine. They're continuing to make profits. Part of

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Speaker 1: it is they also do this. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: they virtue signal is to cover up from their otherwise

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Speaker 1: questionable practices. So Nike figures if they're showing how leftists

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Speaker 1: and woke they are, maybe you won't ask about the

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Speaker 1: child labor that's assembling their tennis shoes. But what's interesting

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Speaker 1: about this bud issue is is it at least appears

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Speaker 1: right now? You know, you probably saw the video online

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Speaker 1: of Kid Rock shooting up several cases of bud Light

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Speaker 1: and expressing his uh, his, his sentiments. I would say,

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Speaker 1: clearly and unambiguously. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Um.

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Speaker 1: It seems to be getting some real traction. And and

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Speaker 1: I hope this serves as as as a warning to

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Speaker 1: other companies just stay out of politics. Just just sell

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Speaker 1: your damn beer, Like, like you don't have to have

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Speaker 1: of you on on transsexuals one way or the other,

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Speaker 1: Like why does a beer company get to engage in that. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you're a makeup company, I can understand a makeup

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Speaker 1: company saying we're going to decide to advertise to people

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Speaker 1: who are transsexual. That that could be a marketing decision

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Speaker 1: that is not nuts. But for bud Light, it is

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Speaker 1: hard to imagine the ad exactly said this, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is really tap it into our demographic. Yeah. This is

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Speaker 1: one of those moments where for me, when I as

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Speaker 1: during March Madness, I was I was like, yeah, I'm done,

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Speaker 1: Like I have no doubt I will never drink a

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Speaker 1: I will refuse it. That's how That's how offended I

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Speaker 1: was by it, and I was like, now, SCREWT. And

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Speaker 1: then you watch where they Nike doubles down and brings

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Speaker 1: the same dude dress like a chicken to sell Nike

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Speaker 1: Sports braws, and I'm like, yeah, the hell with you

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Speaker 1: guys too. It'll be interesting, like you said, how this

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