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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat. Well, happy Monday to

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Speaker 1: you hoes. How are you one day after Mother's Day?

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Speaker 1: Welcome in all you.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say shouts to the mothers. Nobody else.

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Speaker 2: How are is everyone doing here?

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Speaker 1: Welcome?

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Speaker 2: It's Morning Combat on this thirteenth day of May twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. My name Luke Thomas. That is Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 2: the CEO Connecticut of CTE.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how about my Connecticut brethren, Billy ray Goff.

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Speaker 1: Did you see him on the UFC Saint Louis undercard,

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Speaker 1: just fighting like a spiked Carlisle reincarnated. I forgot Trey Waters.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he los?

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Speaker 2: Oh tree Waters is good. Is a good boxer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he lost?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Tree Waters won? Your guy lost?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, golf fought in this art of Brennan Ward. So

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Speaker 1: I appreciated that.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the many things in Connecticut happened. Most of

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Speaker 2: it's losing.

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Speaker 1: I can just be all well, Connecticut has famous athletes.

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Speaker 1: You ever hear Willie Pepp and Steve Young. I don't

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Speaker 2: That they're I think their relationship, like mine to India,

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Speaker 1: Well that's neither here nor there, right and.

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Speaker 2: One, as one philosophy graduate might have said, how's everyone doing? Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 2: We have a fun show planned for everyone today. We're

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Speaker 2: going to be reacting, of course to UFC Saint Louis,

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Speaker 2: as well as how about Loma Chenko seemingly turning back

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Speaker 2: the clock at thirty six years of age winning a

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Speaker 2: title at one hundred and thirty five pounds. Plus the

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Speaker 2: big one this weekend, BC, I know you've got a

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Speaker 2: bonair from here to there, Fury versus Usick the first

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Speaker 2: time since what year in nineteen ninety one, whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety nine that the undisputed heavyweight championship will

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Speaker 1: be at stake, and then this time, obviously the first

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Speaker 1: time four belts, undisputed champion, unbeaten future Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: versus unbeaten future Hall of famers. So we'll preview get

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Speaker 2: Plus we're going to do dms from Donks as well

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Speaker 2: as have you seen this ship.

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Speaker 1: Well, not just not just BC's feces. I want to

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Speaker 1: put it on record here last week in this Metal

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Speaker 1: powered by DraftKings. You claim that I mailed in because

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Speaker 1: I was at the airport and you did mail it in.

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Speaker 1: You claim that I mailed in the have you seen it?

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Speaker 2: I can tell when you've done a good job, because

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Speaker 2: when you have, there's a certain degree of self satisfaction

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Speaker 2: that you owe a swagger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you will. Here's a little bit of ooze that

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Speaker 1: comes like you coming out of the no ship bathroom

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Speaker 2: I did not poop in there today. I haven't even

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Speaker 1: I will tell mister Skipper myself what happened.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know, listen, how is it legal? Be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: that's a shipping bathroom where you can't ship. How is

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Speaker 1: It's not your house, Luke, it's not your it's you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: That's bad etiquette, that's not illegal. If it's legal, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to take a dump anyway. Neither here nor there,

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Speaker 2: as you might notice that we have a lot to

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Speaker 1: Well you heard the cry from our production staff that

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Speaker 1: Very good Mother's day? Pickleball in the driveway, smiles all around.

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Speaker 2: The last thing I wanted to say is I have

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Speaker 2: a big day tomorrow. I have a big day tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting your vastectomy?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: How it would be a dark day in your in

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Speaker 2: I won't cry about it like you did for ten years.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's the thing I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: I genuinely thought you were going to say tomorrow I

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Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't make jokes about them potentially sacrificing

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Speaker 1: I texted you that clanden Stein Jim photo I took

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Speaker 2: You looked like an unbelievable loser.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yep, that looks relatively.

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Speaker 1: On powerful what experience? Those are your people? They are

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Speaker 1: me hinting, no doubt about it, all right, BC? Oh,

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Speaker 1: last thing we're wearing merch. I got the MK jacket.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed we have all right. Well, with that in mind, BC,

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Speaker 1: Can we just say, as you throw to UFC Saint

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Speaker 2: co main event in question number two. But let's start

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Speaker 2: with question number one, all right, BC. It goes something

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Speaker 2: like this. Derek Lewis scored a third round stoppage over

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Speaker 2: either Rodrigo or Hadrigo Naciamento. This was in the main

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Speaker 1: Should we are two knockouts away from seeing his pipe

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Speaker 2: I've seen his butt crack, Like, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: So here's what I'm going to say.

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Speaker 2: I don't feel like we learned anything new about Lewis,

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Speaker 2: but he did show us something besides his butt crack

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Speaker 1: What was that? Well, in the immortal words of Nate

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Speaker 1: Diaz Luke, oh you're a wrestler now, Derek, So he

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Speaker 1: Look when Dan, when we are panning this card on paper,

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Speaker 1: He's an elite gatekeeper who the UFC actually can use

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Speaker 1: taking fights when he shouldn't, when he's injured, when he's

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Speaker 1: And to be fair, with the losing streak coming in

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Speaker 1: of his as a headliner, he had to win this fight.

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Speaker 1: He's the rare gatekeeper that can be a consistent headliner.

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Speaker 2: He thought a guy I think his first thing with Hugo.

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Speaker 2: But what would be the point of like reinventing a

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Speaker 1: I will tell you, as good as he did look

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Speaker 2: But listen, people like Derek Lewis. Derek Lewis tends to

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone thought the Spain's ground awareness. Oh

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Speaker 1: Oh I thought that was like early UFC bad. That

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Speaker 2: You know, he had no skills, like nothing like.

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Speaker 2: But I will give we got Coker credit, do we Okay,

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Speaker 2: You match him against the guy who you're gonna get

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Speaker 2: He will feast on these guys, I think for some

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Speaker 2: time to come. That makes him valuable, That makes him exciting,

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Speaker 1: Talk about relevancy in the discussion of Derek Lewis. His

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Speaker 1: But it seemed to devolve from there with Derek Lewis

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Speaker 2: We have a conversation to have about MMA media, but

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Speaker 2: Let him search you wanted to just start beating off

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Speaker 1: Right you know what I mean? Right, that's the song backwards. Yea, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kill your parents, play backwards nineteen eighties. I

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Speaker 1: I mean, he moaned the crowd. He mooned the damn crowd.

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Speaker 2: if Derek Lui I I you know, okay, let me

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Speaker 2: like just say, like just chucked it right to the crowd.

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Speaker 2: That had been funny. Okay, they've been funny. But what

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Speaker 1: I still make fun of my cousin Tim O'Brien, Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's weird. No, I would not catch

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Speaker 2: I don't mind if you would have kept it, but

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Speaker 2: doesn't you know what, This doesn't smell like peanuts nearly

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Speaker 2: as much as I thought it would. Like, dude, fucking

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Speaker 2: get some help, you know what I mean, Get get

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Speaker 1: To your your to your MMA media.

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Speaker 2: Just get help generally, okay, I mean if you're doing that,

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Speaker 2: and then like like like what the fuck are you doing?

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Speaker 2: What do you like a coffee roaster? Like these beans

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Speaker 2: are clearly Arabica, Like you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is he gonna do? Sell it on eBay?

436
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Speaker 1: The autographed Dana White cup. It's weird. Media members are weird,

437
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Speaker 1: Like Tony Ferguson gave you that weird object that they.

438
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Speaker 2: Use that was the thing for grip strength. That's a

439
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Speaker 2: little bit different.

440
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Speaker 1: Is that like a reward for you being a respectable journalist? Like, hey, man,

441
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Speaker 1: I respect you. I'm gonna give you this ground.

442
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Speaker 2: I think he sends blocked me on social media, so.

443
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Speaker 1: Probably maybe he was like, I've seen you, I've heard

444
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Speaker 1: about your search history. You're gonna need this.

445
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Speaker 2: Grip strength a lot of pornography.

446
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I did want Derek Lewis to use what

447
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Speaker 1: he's best used for for the UFC as an entertainment

448
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 1: headlining tool to better material than that. Do you think

449
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Speaker 1: they talked to him? Does Dana like sit down with

450
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Speaker 1: him and go, Okay, thanks for giving us some viral

451
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Speaker 1: moments there, Derek. We didn't necessarily ask for your asshole,

452
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Speaker 1: And yeah, you're teasing a next level S and M

453
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Speaker 1: variety show that's going.

454
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Speaker 2: Also, it's like, listen, dude, if you're gonna do the

455
00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,480
Speaker 2: butt whole thing only fans, there's one way to do this.

456
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Speaker 1: At least profit off of it, like half of our

457
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Speaker 1: Stroey division, please, because we're not going to pay you

458
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Speaker 1: what you deserve, so at least find other alternate roots, right,

459
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Speaker 1: all right, can we stop talking about coppon ball move

460
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Speaker 1: along here? I mean it is unbrand though. To be

461
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Speaker 1: very fair, you oh sorry, okay, you get you get

462
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Speaker 1: so parental in these moments. You know what I'm saying. Well,

463
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Speaker 1: someone has to Guy number two goes to the comin

464
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Speaker 1: event in Saint Louis. We're hometown product. Joaquin Buckley, Yeah,

465
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Speaker 1: aka new Manza. He did show up at our three

466
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Speaker 1: Margarita show, so shout out. He called for this to

467
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Speaker 1: the UFC, give me a big fight in Saint Louis,

468
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Speaker 1: and boy did they, Luke. From the standpoint of big,

469
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Speaker 1: how about a seven inch reach or height disadvantage against

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Speaker 1: neural Satan roosebovm Joaquin Buckley with there was a thirty

471
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Speaker 1: twenty six on one card, twenty nine to twenty six

472
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Speaker 1: on another, thirty twenty seven on the third, takes away

473
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Speaker 1: a unanimous decision and improves to four to no since

474
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Speaker 1: cut back down to welterweight and even tried to have

475
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Speaker 1: a big moment afterwards, which we'll get into later in

476
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Speaker 1: the show. And have you seen this shit, Luke? Did

477
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Speaker 1: Joaquin Buckley become a genuine welterweight contender On Saturday with

478
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Speaker 1: the crowd screaming Buckley Buckley throughout, and even more impressive

479
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Speaker 1: victory than maybe we've seen up to this point. He

480
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Speaker 1: absolutely did.

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Speaker 2: I firmly believe now you need to look at Joaquin Buckley.

482
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Speaker 2: Who have been kind of waiting to get to this point,

483
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Speaker 2: and I felt like it would happen, but I wasn't

484
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Speaker 2: quite sure when, and I wasn't quite sure against who.

485
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Speaker 2: But now I think we're here. I think that Joaquin

486
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Speaker 2: Buckley showed us something very clearly, like obviously he's first

487
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Speaker 2: team all body like we've been knowing that for a while.

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Speaker 1: Well you can go deeper. I think he's with big

489
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Speaker 1: Ee of ww fame of first team all male.

490
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Speaker 2: Rast team all tits.

491
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Speaker 1: Also meet low from from bike.

492
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Speaker 2: Club bike club. Well those were meaty tits. I mean.

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Speaker 1: Today, I sometimes you gotta go sloppy on the moves.

494
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Speaker 1: Live all right, let's.

495
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Speaker 2: Let's let's let's be serious about this for just a moment.

496
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Speaker 2: He he was sitting at eleven on the rankings prior

497
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Speaker 2: to Saturday's fight. I think with this he will certainly

498
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Speaker 2: go inside the top ten, even though his opponent was

499
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Speaker 2: not ahead of him per se. I just think it'll

500
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Speaker 2: cause some movement. I'm gonna say something BC, I think,

501
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Speaker 2: and this will help us have the conversation. I believe

502
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Speaker 2: the next appropriate fight for Woking Buckley, assuming he's healthy

503
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Speaker 2: and that they could make this on the appropriate timeline

504
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Speaker 2: him versus Sean Brady.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Sean Brady's sitting at eight.

506
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Speaker 2: I think this will probably move him to ten or

507
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Speaker 2: even nine and could put them in right proximities to

508
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Speaker 2: one another. I think that is a fantastic fight because

509
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Speaker 2: it was interesting. In this fight, Buckley had to use

510
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Speaker 2: a lot of his wrestling in fact, to get the

511
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Speaker 2: fight to slow down on his terms. It wasn't until

512
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Speaker 2: later he actually dropped Rouse boy. I think how they

513
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Speaker 2: pronounced it. He had to drop him multiple or times

514
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Speaker 2: or at least rock him several times anyway in order

515
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Speaker 2: to really pour it on, which he did. But it

516
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Speaker 2: just showed maturity. He knew how to manage the fight,

517
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Speaker 2: he knew where his strengths were against this kind of

518
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Speaker 2: an opponent. He tried to play some mind games. I

519
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 2: don't really know how good they were. It's very weird

520
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: to me when one MMA fighter who doesn't get pay

521
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Speaker 2: per view points makes fun of another MMA fighter who

522
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Speaker 2: also doesn't have heavy review points for not having enough money?

523
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Speaker 1: Who was this?

524
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: Buckley did it to RUZBOYV at the weigh ins he

525
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Speaker 2: get because it apparently use Boy was checking into his

526
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Speaker 2: hotel and didn't have enough money, so I think he

527
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: was giving him hotel money. It's like, guys, we want

528
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Speaker 2: him to have a I don't do it. But if

529
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Speaker 2: we want to have a conversation about who the all

530
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Speaker 2: time clubhouse leaders are with leaving money on the table,

531
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Speaker 2: it's MMA fighters times a billion.

532
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Speaker 1: Well new man'sa did call it Connor, which is the

533
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Speaker 1: super conversation, so he tried to access that vault. I

534
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Speaker 1: think it was.

535
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Speaker 2: He's physically right for the weight class number one, number two.

536
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Speaker 2: He's got enough competition experience now where he's not making

537
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Speaker 2: silly errors.

538
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Speaker 1: For the most party, he's all grown up as a fighter.

539
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Speaker 2: He's super grown up. He made good decisions. He is athletic.

540
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Speaker 2: We know how powerful he can bes. I think he

541
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Speaker 2: has the best, the most acrobatic ko in UFC history,

542
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Speaker 2: and this kind of performance against a big dude like

543
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Speaker 2: this just showed me he is ready to step into

544
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Speaker 2: those kinds of challenges where you have to be not

545
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Speaker 2: just you know, good physically and locked in, but you

546
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: got to really re elevate your game. He to me

547
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Speaker 2: is ready for those kinds.

548
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Speaker 1: Of exactly I say all growns up, because obviously it

549
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: was the poison maturity of his game that even though

550
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Speaker 1: the calling card can be the explosiveness and the knockout real,

551
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: you can't be that. It's equivalent, Luke to the slam

552
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Speaker 1: dunk contest in the NBA, which young guys always come

553
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: in looking to make a name for themselves. Sometimes a

554
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Speaker 1: guy will win the slam dunk contest doesn't want to

555
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Speaker 1: get type cast as just a dunker, and then will

556
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: work so hard to show the rest of his game

557
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: and raise his game and begin to be seen as

558
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Speaker 1: a complete player. New Man's I think needed time to

559
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: evolve out of that, because for a while it became

560
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: feast or famine at middleweight, where he's either going to

561
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: spectacularly knock you out or he's gonna get caught, like

562
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Speaker 1: he did a couple of times. But it was what

563
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: he did from that figured out the best weight division

564
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Speaker 1: for him. Now four straight fights in four straight wins

565
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Speaker 1: after cutting back down to one seventy. But it was

566
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Speaker 1: the patients and poise, and you had to have patients

567
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Speaker 1: and poise against a guy who was seven inches taller. Now,

568
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: it wasn't a seven inch reach a disadvantage. It was

569
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Speaker 1: only a one inch, which is weird. The way the

570
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: bodies are they down looked like they were different ways,

571
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Speaker 1: for sure. But to see Buckley strategically you his wrestling

572
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Speaker 1: in the way that he did and to use the

573
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Speaker 1: explosiveness in key strategic situations. Mostly one of the key

574
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Speaker 1: sequences in the second round where the fight was star

575
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: was very even because of the reach of his opponent

576
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Speaker 1: in the height and tagging him coming in and you

577
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: saw Buckley get hit with a two piece, look like

578
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 1: he might have been hurt. He took one step back

579
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: and then exploded back for the takedown, and it wasn't reckless.

580
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: It didn't lead to any kind of crazy reversal. It

581
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: snuffed out the momentum instantly of his opponent, which is

582
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: a veteran move. It's how you win fights. So it's

583
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: the patients in the combinations. It's not just spamming offense

584
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 1: looking to get something creative or waiting for that one

585
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,959
Speaker 1: big counter strike. It's becoming a complete fighter. And if

586
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: you look at the quality of the wins of late.

587
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 1: I actually thought this might have been his best performance

588
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: all things considered, but obviously when he took out Luk

589
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: that was a bigger name. This four fight win streak

590
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Speaker 1: are pretty much all quality names. Yeah, and I love

591
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Speaker 1: the most that he called for this Smoke that we

592
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: had this debate did he ask for too much when

593
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Speaker 1: he said, Hey, UFC all want a headline Saint Louis

594
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Speaker 1: And they're like, oh you want to all right, You're not

595
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: gonna headline, You're gonna go to the co main event

596
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna fight this killer that no one really knows,

597
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: who's you know, seven inches, and he was good. He

598
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: was hard to look great against. That only shows me

599
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Speaker 1: even more that new Manza is ready for that Smoke

600
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: is ready for top ten fighters. And even though I

601
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: didn't love the Cono McGregor call out, we'll hear that

602
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: and have you seen the shit? It came out as

603
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: comical and by the way, his own Saint Louis fans

604
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: boot him for it, which was weird to see because

605
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 1: they were so aggressively channing his name, and you got

606
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: that hometown feeling like when Terrence Crawford fights in Omaha,

607
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, they're making this area combat sports haven. Yeah, dude,

608
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: he's ready for the big time. He did it the

609
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Speaker 1: old school, organic way. I can't wait to see what

610
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Speaker 1: his ceiling is going to be here, because that crazy

611
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: explosive athleticism is always going to be in the back pocket.

612
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: But now if you can use that in smart ways,

613
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Speaker 1: he becomes a plus fighter with a big ceiling. He

614
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Speaker 1: really does.

615
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Speaker 2: And I don't listen, here's my reality. I don't know

616
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Speaker 2: how far he can go. I reason the reason why

617
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Speaker 2: I want to see the Sean Brady fight is because

618
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know.

619
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Speaker 2: You could also give him a numberne you can give

620
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Speaker 2: him Jack Romannson. I'd be fine with either of those.

621
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Speaker 2: I would like one more than the other. But put

622
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Speaker 2: up ROOSEBOIV trains with Sean Brady, so there's something of

623
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Speaker 2: a revenge fact like that. So I kind of like

624
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: that f a little bit more than the Jack Armanson one.

625
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 2: But the what I'm trying to make is I actually

626
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 2: don't know how far he can go. I don't know

627
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: what the fights would look like. But I know he's ready.

628
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: I know he can make them interesting. I know that

629
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: they're probably to a degree certainly winnable, and that mystery,

630
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: that intrigue gives me. I'm so excited to see what happens.

631
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Speaker 2: He's charismatic, he's fun to watch, he's fun to like.

632
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: He wants to be there, he wants to entertain, he

633
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: wants to be a name. He wants not just the smoke,

634
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: he wants the mantle and everything that kind of comes

635
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Speaker 2: with being a bigger face and a bigger name in

636
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Speaker 2: a division. I say, let's give it to him. Let's

637
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Speaker 2: Jamal Hill.

638
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Speaker 1: Which is that?

639
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Speaker 3: You know?

640
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Speaker 1: I forget? What's that in Michigan?

641
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

642
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I haven't looked up merci Alago. M

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Speaker 1: m A.

644
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Speaker 2: Where is that talking on the mix? Everyone can hear.

645
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Speaker 1: Everyone can hear me in Michigan, Michigan. Hey, have you

646
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Speaker 1: been watching Long Island Luke's betting podcast The Mile High?

647
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Speaker 1: Was it? The Mile High Minute? Luke Main Card minute?

648
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Speaker 2: The Main is your podcast? A minute long?

649
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Speaker 1: No?

650
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Speaker 4: I do betting breakdowns in a minute, but I.

651
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Speaker 1: Got the stuff. The mile high part is less than

652
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Speaker 1: a man's pretty quick. See.

653
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Speaker 2: In any case, let me just read you six to nine,

654
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Speaker 2: see what you think. Six is Brendan Allen. I don't

655
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Speaker 2: think that's quite fair. Seven is uh.

656
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Vision Ellen Midwest Division.

657
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, run Vision. I'm saying Jack from Manson and he's

658
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: no longer a middleweight.

659
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: Sorry, right.

660
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: Number ten would be Jeff Neil I maybe is an

661
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Speaker 2: interesting one, not as Stephen Thompson. Eight is Sean Brady.

662
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: Eight is Sean Brady. Six, seven is Ian Gary, but

663
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: I think Gary has probably got they have him somewhere else.

664
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: And then six would be Gilbert Burns, who he called out,

665
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: but I think Gilbert Burns blocked him or something like

666
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: that on social media.

667
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: So dude, that fight would be something.

668
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: Would you rather see the Brady fight or the Gilbert

669
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: the Gilbert fight?

670
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: I think there's something. I mean, look, the Brady fight

671
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: is more is a better fight in terms of the

672
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: division and figuring out who's coming or going and all

673
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: of that. But I think that Gilbert Burns fight is

674
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Speaker 1: interesting because Burns will play into aggressively if there is

675
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: a weakness in Buckleys game. He's an explosive wrestler, but

676
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Burns will come at him from the from the grappling

677
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: submission side and really test him in those areas, but

678
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: also an aging action fighter who could stumble into a war,

679
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you want to stumble into

680
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: a war with this guy. This is the one that

681
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Speaker 1: bi Gilba Burns could win and keep showing us that

682
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: in his late thirties he's still there. But it's like

683
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Speaker 1: sort of I love when a prospect is coming up

684
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: and starting to show them good and you catch a

685
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: legend on the way down and it sort of matches

686
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: up in the perfect moment where it's a perfectly competitive

687
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: fight and we learn what we're supposed to learn. Maybe

688
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 1: I like the storyline of that and the potential there

689
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: just as much or more than the Brady fight, which

690
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: is taking two young guys looking to really find out

691
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: who's going to who's going to go to the next level.

692
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Do you think Brady will hold him down? Though? I

693
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: think he can.

694
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Speaker 2: I think I think Brady can hold down anyone in

695
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: that division, literally anybody, including Jeff gott rochmanoff. The question

696
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: is can they hold him down long enough to win

697
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: that part?

698
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know we're gonna talk about Chase

699
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: Hooper in a second, but did you like Chase Hooper's

700
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: joke attempt when he referenced the quote that justin.

701
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Speaker 2: Gatcha hold a rape them, is that it?

702
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

703
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he was like, UFC doesn't want me

704
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: to finish this quote, so.

705
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: Probably good idea probab yeah, proably good. I did all

706
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Speaker 2: r Let's talk about the rest of UFC. Saint Lewis

707
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: So there were some other big winners, some other big

708
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: losers on Saturday. Let's talk about some of the biggest

709
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: ones BC. I have to say Chase Hooper's win over

710
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: Slava Clause was fantastic. It is easily his best performance

711
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: to date, maybe in all of MMA, just given who

712
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: the opponent was and given where he is in his career, huge,

713
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: huge win. I have to say, this is the first

714
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Speaker 2: time I looked at him. And there's been times where

715
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: he's obviously got skills on the mat, there's never really

716
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: been a question about that stand up is a work

717
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: in progress. But even here he dropped the guy, which

718
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. H But this was the first time I

719
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: looked at him physically at age twenty four, and I

720
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: thought to myself, Okay, now he's becoming a man, He's

721
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: becoming into he's growing into his man strength, he just

722
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: felt like he was still kind of a teenager or

723
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 2: a teenager body for a while. Didn't quite settle. Now

724
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: it seems to be settling. Dropped the guy put him

725
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 2: in every kind of position from the back to the

726
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: mount to inverted tr It was.

727
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Speaker 1: Full moont quicker than almost anyone. I know that this

728
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: is the level he's fighting at where there's holes in

729
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: the games of his opponents. But he goes full mount

730
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: rain and down.

731
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: If you have him ount and you can't keep it

732
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: and you have to roll, but then you have to

733
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: roll to some other dominant position, they call it flaring out.

734
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: His ability to flare out and control is so good, dude.

735
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Speaker 2: Congratulations to Chase Hooper on what has to be not

736
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: only a good, feel good performance for him, but one

737
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: of those things where it's like, okay, now I'm ready

738
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Speaker 2: to start beating genuinely good top guys in the UFC.

739
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Speaker 1: What a performance from him it was. And you consider

740
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Speaker 1: that he's twenty four years old that you mentioned now

741
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: three straight he's gotten some of those real big mistake

742
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: losses out of his way. You know where the bottom

743
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: falls out and then you find out where you are.

744
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: I still have questions about his strike defense, though I

745
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: still have questions about his head movements.

746
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: Every question with his performance, I don't think.

747
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: It's obviously he answered the question of he's now figuring

748
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: out how to how to have more weapons on the feet,

749
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: which is good to throw that looping punch that Slevo

750
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: Clause didn't see them coming and drop him. Think he

751
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: dropped him a second time partially as well, So he's

752
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: improving on that. Obviously, if he can take you down.

753
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: He thrives in the chaos, almost on a Charles Lavera

754
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: type way, thrives in the chaos, and he's trying to

755
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: create he gets full mount. Like I said, he's constantly

756
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: transitioning into craziness. But Luke the Great Equalizer still is

757
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: a powerful puncher that can line him up, and I

758
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: think he is a different fighter when he gets as

759
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: most people are, when he start to get lined up

760
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and pieced up, and then suddenly that aggressiveness and confidence

761
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: begins to work against him in a way. I need

762
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: to see him pass more of those lessons. But to

763
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: be twenty four years old to get the early losses

764
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: out of your way. Remember when he was so hot

765
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: of a prospect at one point they mailed out those

766
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: at that eminem jar with his face on all the

767
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: m and ms the UFCPR did there's still time for

768
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: him to be that because he's charismatic. On the MIC,

769
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: he looks like a young child from a teen movie.

770
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: But the man strength is coming in. But here's my

771
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: big question, outside of the striking defense, can he have

772
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: that success? Now? Look, I love Slavia Clause, He's one

773
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: of my favorite action fighters, mister favors boy. I thought

774
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: on this card they matched up a lot of sneaky

775
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: good matchups. From Baby Shark Tabitha Ricci against t Shep

776
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: Pennington was another one of those where it was just

777
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: perfectly headitive style wise and where they were in their careers.

778
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: Can though Chase do what he did to a higher

779
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: level of competition. Can he get himself those advantageous ground

780
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: positions in spam or are more experienced guy's going to

781
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: cut him off at the turn and then we see

782
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: some of the exposure of his skills not fully being

783
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: there because he's still in progress. He's very much still

784
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: in progress.

785
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't imagine that he's fully ready for everything. But

786
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: what I would say is at twenty four, he still

787
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: has I would say three to four years before he

788
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: even enters his prime, assuming they can match make him correctly,

789
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: and that's a big if, and assuming he continues to develop,

790
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: let's see what he's capable of. I did see people

791
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: over the weekend being like, Oh, he could be a

792
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: champion because he's only twenty four. I think that is

793
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: extremely premature. I would not necessarily go that far, only

794
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: because you just it's not a no. It's just there's

795
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: not nearly enough evidence to be that confident about what

796
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: you're up against. Even though he has obviously come very far.

797
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: It's there's no guarante. There's never a guarantee that they're

798
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: going to actually fully develop into what you want him

799
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: to and MMA prospecting is hard to do. What I

800
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: would say is he has absolutely earned the right to

801
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: be like, oh, he's not a child. There was a

802
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: time there I thought he was a child competing with men,

803
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: and I just know that was gonna make a lot

804
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 2: of sense for him. I don't feel that way anymore.

805
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: I do feel like he's got a lot more refined offense.

806
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: To your point, what about the refinement of the defense.

807
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: It will really come down to how he is match

808
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: made going slow, taking time, but I think he's capable

809
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: of doing some big things.

810
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: Should get him on the show. I think he'd I

811
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: would love to.

812
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: Have him on the show. I really I took my

813
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: hat off to him. I was like, man, that was very,

814
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: very impressive what he was doing. Also, it should be

815
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 2: noted a commentator, Michael Bisping said there was a quote

816
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: from Baz Ruten that you should never tap to toe

817
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: holds because it's just a pain submission. And I remember

818
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: hearing that in real time thinking that's not true. You

819
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: can absolutely break someone's ankle big time with a toe hold.

820
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: I took a Gary Tonan seminar in twenty seventeen and

821
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: he was very clear, you can do that.

822
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: Sure enough.

823
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: I looked at the quote. It's about Achilles locks, which

824
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 2: is true because that is just pain. But no, no, no,

825
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: the toe hold you can break. People should and.

826
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Speaker 1: Don't forget the quote from Governor bj Penn before the

827
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: second GSP fight that only a bit taps to strikes

828
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: and then he quit on his stool in the second round.

829
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean it was a tough fight. I'm just saying that.

830
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: The fourth after the fourth, I'm sorry right there, Luke

831
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: to stay on this theme of sort of breakout performances

832
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: that you have c Saint Louis. I thought it was

833
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: a fun card for that. Carlos Olberg once again gave

834
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: us the kids quickly that sexy striker Luke has been

835
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: able to put together a few of these wins. After

836
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: an early hiccup, how high is your ckb Bonario from

837
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: here to Hanover Ohio extending right now, Luke and this strect.

838
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing, right like you want to

839
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 2: be super.

840
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: That's a tough opponent. Alonzo Minifield, that's not.

841
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: A so so yes and no, yes and no. Alonzo

842
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: Minifield is a scary, big hulking monster with big power,

843
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 2: and if he connects on you, it's it's curtains for you. However,

844
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: he has a tendency and I'm trying to be nice

845
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: here to fight recklessly. And he fought recklessly against Olberg,

846
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: who tends to feast on guys like this. So I

847
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: hated the way that Menifield tried to compete Olberg showing

848
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 2: his gil you know, readiness, presence of mind just dispatched him.

849
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 2: It was fantastic, But that's not being audited. That's not

850
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: being that's not someone being like, let's actually test your

851
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: game here a little bit. So is Carlos Olberg one

852
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: of these kinds of strikers where if you get hasty

853
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: with him, he'll send you to the land of winding

854
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 2: ghosts one billion percent? But that doesn't tell me exactly

855
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: how he's gonna do with somebody wh wants to take

856
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: him down to wrestle him, and then what are you

857
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: going to do then? Or you know what I mean, Like,

858
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: there's still a lot more you have to go with, something.

859
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm sure as dms are fire, but can he

860
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: commit to a relationship something like something like that? On

861
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: that same theme, Luke, how about Sean Woodson at featherweight?

862
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: How about that a guy we never talk about who's

863
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: now unbeaten in six consecutive fights, now gets the decision

864
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: win over Alex Cassaris Casseus and Luke, I'm here to

865
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: tell you that it's always you know, the Goofy boxing

866
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: is not goofy, but the intricate heavy movement style of

867
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: the kickboxing is long and weird for the in terms

868
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 1: of body shape, but he's effective out there. Do you

869
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: put stock in this win? Or is it a good win,

870
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: show me more.

871
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: Great win again. When you've got a really lanky body type,

872
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: I want to see what your defense on the ground

873
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: looks like. A lot of lanky guys have good guards.

874
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: A lot of lanky guys have really bad ju jitsu

875
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: when it comes to like the wrestle boxers who can

876
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: really occupy inside space, they can capture rides in certain positions,

877
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 2: and when you have long levers like that, it makes

878
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: finding those nooks and crannies you need to re establish

879
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: space very very difficult to do. And you know, look

880
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: at his body type. The guy was fighting out as

881
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: high as two fifteen previously. At one forty five, he's

882
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 2: going to be getting a lot of squattier opponents.

883
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: That's wild. That's Anthony Johnson level.

884
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: Why so weird. He makes it work, point, he makes

885
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: it work.

886
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: So he's twelve one in one overall. His only defeat

887
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: in the UFC was a submission loss to Juicy Julian

888
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: Juicy j Rosa. He has a draw in twenty twenty

889
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: two against Luis Saldanya. That's their weight contender, rising quietly

890
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: here out of the Saint Louis Herea.

891
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: He's on his way. He's on his way. He one

892
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: of these guys with this kind of performance and again

893
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: the overall track record that you definitely need to say

894
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: something like, hey, maybe he can do something with this.

895
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: Can I shout out somebody who I thought these fantastic performance?

896
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: How about Carlos Diego Fjera.

897
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: How about counting out the thirty nine year old, the

898
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: big on the.

899
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: Thirty nine competing at what one hundred and fifty five pounds?

900
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: This guy is an old war horse if ever there

901
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 2: was one, and yes, when he got tested against the

902
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: upper end of the division, he was found to be

903
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: not quite there. However, look at the tricks this old

904
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: bastard has and he got rocked in that first round.

905
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: So he got His opponent was Matteus. Now I want

906
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: to say Rebeccy, but they were saying something next to Robootskiers.

907
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: I mean something like that. Yes, who is a fucking hammer.

908
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Yes he was a big I think at least a

909
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: decent favorite coming into the contest and started out marching

910
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: down super out. He's got a judo background like this

911
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: guy was putting hands.

912
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: On sixteen fight win streak coming in.

913
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: He's again strong athletic, the whole nine yards and Faja

914
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 2: weathered it and then turned the table on this dude

915
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: hit him with one of the most ridiculous elevator sweeps

916
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my life. Just incredible guts and

917
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: then finally just pouring it on. Dude, did you see

918
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: Mateo's's face both swollen?

919
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: So you want to be an ultimate fighter, goldie, and

920
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: he was.

921
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: Doing that for what fifty k?

922
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: Maybe?

923
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: If that?

924
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: If that, I mean maybe do you think he could

925
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: have afforded the hotel? Or is he have to go

926
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: on only fans too? I mean, this is where we're at.

927
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: It's a genuine question.

928
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 2: But the point I want to make was, dude, to

929
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 2: get a thirty nine year old to turn in a technical,

930
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 2: veteran performance like that in this weight class very hard

931
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: to do.

932
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 1: Also, then the curtain jerker to open the card. How

933
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: about three straight wins for a rejuvenated friend of the

934
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 1: program Veronica Hardy, Dan Hardy. Look, JJ Aldrich has kind

935
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: of always been the litmus test in the flyweight division

936
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: in terms of you know, are you making some noise?

937
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: We'll go in there against a tough southpaw, good counterboxer,

938
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: not easy to man or woman handle and throw around

939
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: This was a hard earned win, but the striking of

940
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Veronica Hardy was next level. She was stinging Aldrich busted

941
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: up her nose accurate. I realized until they sat on

942
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: the broadcast that she had debuted back in twenty sixteen

943
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: in the UFC. Did Veronica Hardy nay? My say it?

944
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh Luke right? But since the marriage and the coaching

945
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: and the team, the chemistry that they have, she's just

946
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: tarting to make some noise. You got to take her seriously.

947
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: Now, you absolutely have to. And she had been at

948
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: an actor for quite a long time and so that

949
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: you weren't quite sure her momentum. Well she's got momentum. Now.

950
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 2: This was a solid win. You can't take it away

951
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: from her. She earned it, to your point, looked technical, looked,

952
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: for the most part, in charge. There's a lot to

953
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: like about Veronica Hardy's performance, no doubt.

954
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: And I mentioned earlier, but Tabitha Ricci baby Shark at

955
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: strawweight against Tsha Torres Pennington, who that was a tough

956
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: ass fight for both of them. They were sort of

957
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: like the Spider Man meme in terms of their on

958
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: their body size, what they're known for. That was a

959
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: good ass matchmaking and a very good fight. By the way,

960
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: shout out to t Schef for coming back from giving

961
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: birth so quickly and coming in there and looking very good,

962
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: looking very good in there in terms of her and

963
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: also toughness.

964
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: We should just sort of make a point here about

965
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: the Saint Louis crowd. They were pretty they were actually

966
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 2: really good, and you know, getting back to the Buckley

967
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: kind of conversation, I just feel like I remember when TJ.

968
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: Dillashaw fought Dominant Cruz, and I believe that fight was

969
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: in Boston if memory serves, and I think the crowd

970
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: showed up. People will come for the UFC brand, that

971
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: is true. But one thing that you really get, like,

972
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: for example, Boots Enns has signed as a boxer who

973
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 2: has signed with Eddie Hearn. First order of business that

974
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn did was We're gonna put a fight for

975
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: you in Philadelphia, where he's from. And that comes from

976
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: some difficulties. The Pennsylvania Commission makes it a little bit straight,

977
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: which is why he had previously fought in Atlantic City,

978
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: which is New Jersey. And so you know, I understand

979
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: why promoters don't do it, but I really feel like

980
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: if there's a chance to make a guy a hometown star,

981
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: it is so good for the local market. It is

982
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: so good for that person, male or female, the fighter

983
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: who ends up being And this kind of car to

984
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: me also showed that the spillover effect because they were

985
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: so ready for their their their fighter. In the Comaine,

986
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: they were kind of jazz the entire time, and they

987
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: maybe it's because there's a good crowd. There's also nothing

988
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: to do in Saint Louis. That's probably a big component

989
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: as well. It's one of the worst cities in America.

990
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: But neither here nor there.

991
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Wow worst cities in America, the.

992
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: Worst big cities, one of the one of the worst.

993
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: I went there one time and I was like, dude,

994
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 2: what do people do here for fun? And I guess

995
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: not much is watch the Cardinals as really the answer.

996
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: It does get hot in her exactly, so they get naked,

997
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: not much today they take.

998
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: Off all their clothes Derek Lewis, But I'm being serious.

999
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: It just feels like, here's what I'm trying to understand.

1000
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: I know why they do it to keep costs down

1001
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: at the APEX. I understand that, but it feels like,

1002
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: tell me when the crowd is cheering on Buckley. There's

1003
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 2: the spillover to the rest of the crowd. But this

1004
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 2: is my point. Who's the loser there? Yeah, the UFC wins,

1005
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: the fire wins, the hometown crowd wins.

1006
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: They did a record gate. Everybody wins. I don't. I don't.

1007
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: I think it's fact. I'll say it as a fact

1008
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: that card not being in the Apex. We pan that

1009
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: card on paper, by the way, as we should. I

1010
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: always want to say it, like as we should if

1011
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 1: I panned it. But okay, there were sneaky good matchups

1012
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,959
Speaker 1: that all played out well. We learned a lot about

1013
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: all these fighters. There was a lot of exciting finishes.

1014
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I think the live crowd has a lot to do

1015
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: with that. I'm not saying you have to burn the

1016
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: APEX building down. I'm not even saying you have to

1017
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: take a year and add an expansion. Just put bleachers

1018
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: in there, give it that hardcore fan feel and get

1019
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: it going to see Dan at the postfight press conference, go,

1020
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: I've been saying this a long time. Why don't we

1021
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: get out? No, you have it. We've been saying that.

1022
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: I mean, so is Dana saying this behind the scenes

1023
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: and somehow getting shot down by the higher upside TV.

1024
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 2: He has to be I have no idea. What I

1025
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: want to be very clear, I do not know what

1026
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 2: the truth is, so I want to put that as

1027
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: a prefaced comment. God only knows how the various executives

1028
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 2: between UFC and TKO are interacting. What I can say

1029
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: is they had a TKO had an earnings call, and

1030
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: they were very clear that, like, you know, we want

1031
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: to touch the fans and be up there as often

1032
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: as we can. But but what they basically said was

1033
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: the cost savings are so high with the APEX that

1034
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: they absolutely foresee a future like that's not changing anytime soon.

1035
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Okay, but I have to almost pause you there and say,

1036
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: if you are doing year over year record financial numbers,

1037
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: you're merging with WW for this new company, and the

1038
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: quote you know you're being evaluated at just ridiculous numbers,

1039
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: and you just won the lawsuit by for your former

1040
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: fighters by paying the three hundred and thirty five million,

1041
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: is the APEX being cost effective under theory only because

1042
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: they had fears about the cost of that potential lawsuit

1043
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: and still in play because they do have to pay

1044
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: off that three hundred and thirty five million. Are those

1045
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: two things connected or not at all?

1046
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: I don't think they can. I don't think that that.

1047
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Dude.

1048
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: It's going to take three installments. So it's basically one

1049
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 2: hundred MILLI one hundred mil, hundred and thirty five mili.

1050
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 2: That is chump change to this organization.

1051
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: So you're says it's not influenced by that your opinion, I.

1052
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 2: Don't think it's even remotely influenced.

1053
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: No, then that's to be fair. And this is why

1054
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I get mad at these in between fight night cards

1055
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: being so consistently bad on paper. I get that any

1056
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: card can overachieve this one did. The crowd was great,

1057
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: the fighters were great. I don't think that's justifiable when

1058
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: you're doing that kind of numbers and you have that

1059
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: level of financial control over your own fighters, I mean

1060
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: an insane level, and you've got Sam Alvi and others

1061
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: out here going, you know what, I think we were overpaid.

1062
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what to say about that, but

1063
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: but but the point being is Dana saying like it

1064
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: was music to my ears. He was saying, yeah, you know,

1065
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 2: we built this business going city to city and letting

1066
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 2: not just at this point was not just Las Vegas,

1067
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: not just La or New York or whatever, going to

1068
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 2: like you know, Dallas, going to Atlanta, going to Fort Lauderdale, whatever.

1069
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: And he's right, that is how they built That's exactly

1070
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: how they built their business. But you know they're a

1071
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: monopoly and film you seem.

1072
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: To fight in an empty apex with Paul Anka sitting

1073
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: there and at Zuck behind you, it can't feel the same.

1074
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: The only choice consumers have is to either be an

1075
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: MMA fan or not be an MMA fan because you

1076
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 2: don't have an actual alternative to watch anything else. That's

1077
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: just where you are and they know that, so they're

1078
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: just going to keep doing what they want to do.

1079
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: Do you want to comment here about the media, because

1080
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't just the media member and the po anything.

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Speaker 1: I have seen a shit not specifically because I was

1082
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: so kind of pissed off by it that I didn't

1083
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: want to play it up in that way. So along

1084
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: with the media member catching Derek Lewis's cup having Dana

1085
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: White sign it after the press conference, there also was

1086
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: a female media member I didn't get the name or

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00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: the outlet who openly said, Hey, I want to be

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00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: branded by Cowboy Seroni can you really facilitate this for me, Dana,

1089
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: and that call got in. The conversation between them escalated

1090
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: and got weird, and Dana was like, wow, you must

1091
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: be into some freaky shit, Like it just got fucking weird,

1092
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: and the media member stayed with it and pushing. Dames

1093
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'll see what I can do rightfully,

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00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: So you I think you tweeted Ariel's tweeting this is

1095
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: what the UFC once. We've had this discussion a million times.

1096
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: When you drive out the real media and make it

1097
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: harder for them to do their job. You want influencers

1098
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: lined up that won't rock the boat. But this is

1099
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: getting like, you know, we used to say, do you

1100
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: remember that press conference Nate versus Jorge when it was

1101
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: for the BMF title in New York next to the

1102
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: bridge in the background. Yep, And we pan that as

1103
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: journalists because all the questions were, Hey, Nate, what weed

1104
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: are you smoking out? What strain are you gout?

1105
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: How can you do this if you're a vegan?

1106
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: There was like it was like forty five minutes straight

1107
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: of like the worst questions ever. This is where we

1108
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: are fast forward five years, where this is mma media

1109
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: do you have anything to say about it.

1110
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: I mean I've already said, I mean, people got better

1111
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: at me because I was. I don't understand, like, I

1112
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 2: don't understand how you can accept a credential and then

1113
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: think you can do something like that and then be

1114
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: above criticism for it. It just blows my mind that

1115
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: you can you can engage in self serving frivolity in

1116
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: the middle of a press conference like we do frivolity

1117
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: on our own terms away from that, right, lots of

1118
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 2: people do. I don't think there's any problem with for

1119
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 2: volity and even self serving to that kind. But at

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Speaker 2: an actual event, where, by the way, when you accept

1121
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 2: the press credential, you actually accept a code of conduct

1122
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: that comes with it, both in terms of dress and

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Speaker 2: everything else, whether or not it's enforced. As a separate conversation,

1124
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: but you know, as well as I do boxing mma,

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00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: you accept the credential, they tell you what you can

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00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 2: and cannot do in terms of your behavior and what's

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00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: expected of your professional conduct. Again, whether it's enforced, I

1128
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: don't know, But you know, in a world where this

1129
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 2: kind of thing is being defended and people say it's

1130
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 2: no big deal, and at the same time guys who

1131
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: have done some of the most important work in MMA journalism.

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00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,280
Speaker 2: Josh Gross can't be employed necessarily in the industry. Steven

1133
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: Morocco just got let go.

1134
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Didn't Loronahok get driven out of the industry?

1135
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: Driven out? Let me just say it very clearly. I'm

1136
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: not saying MM journalism is one hundred percent dead. People

1137
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: will still engage in individual acts of it at time,

1138
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: but as an industry, MMA journalism is dead. It is

1139
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: formally dead. You can say goodbye to it. It doesn't

1140
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: exist one more time. Individual actors can do individual journalistic pieces.

1141
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: John Nash might have some kind of substance reporting or somebody.

1142
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: Else bloody elbow. Unfortunately don a bloody elbow.

1143
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: But do you know what I mean? Like people can

1144
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: do something where that will be journalism and will be

1145
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 2: service to the public. But we have replaced people who

1146
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: care about commissions being aligned with promoters, who care about

1147
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: fighters being under paid, testing who care about drug testing.

1148
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 2: We have replaced them with people who want to get

1149
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 2: branded by fighters. MMA journalism is fucking dead.

1150
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's one thing to be opportunistic. And

1151
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: remember when Chad Johnson, the wid receiver, would show up

1152
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: representing betting sites and try to do commercial during the

1153
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: press conference, or Derek from Better Media challenging ideas to

1154
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: a fight, like there's things where you can play that

1155
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: and we go.

1156
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: And there are times too, like for example, like you

1157
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: know during the week of the Super Bowl, Yes, the

1158
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: NFL will credential just about anybody.

1159
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: Saying there's times when stunts like that are okay because

1160
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: it's strategic, but we hate it, but we go okay.

1161
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: But this was just weird. Both stories on Saturday were

1162
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: just weird at that focus.

1163
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: This is where we are, where we are.

1164
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 1: Let's get back into real combat sports and results topic

1165
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: number four from over the weekend. We had a big

1166
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: boxing title fight down under their home of Long Island,

1167
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Luke's father by the way. This one was in Perth,

1168
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: Western Australia, and the return of former pound for pound

1169
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Speaker 1: king vassili iloma Chenko, thirty six years old, is the

1170
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: three division champion, but with Devin Hainey moving up from

1171
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: his undisputed lightweight stance as champion last year, there are

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Speaker 1: a bunch of free belts out there. This was for

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Speaker 1: the IBF and Lomachenko welcomed hometown hero George Cambosis Junior,

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Speaker 1: who still draws a big crowd and a big live

1175
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: gate down under, which is why the fight was there.

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Speaker 1: But it turns out Lomachenko still got it in a

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00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: big way, turning back the clock by dominating Cambosis through

1178
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: the eleventh round in which he stopped him after dropping

1179
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: him on a body shot and then piling on afterwards. So,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, he's now the IBF lightweight champion. Is Lomachenko

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00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: at thirty six? He's now And we'll get into it

1182
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: teasing future unifications against Shakhur Stevenson for the WBC belt

1183
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: or even Gervonte Tank Davis for the WBA belt, who

1184
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: tweeted out during the fight that after Frank Martin, I

1185
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: want Loma next. Just how meaningful is this specific victory

1186
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: for Loma to become a champion again and which fight

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Speaker 1: do you actually think it sets up?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about this set up in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was blown away as a strong word, because I

1191
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: did expect Loma to win, But this was to me

1192
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: about as close as you're gonna get to the return

1193
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: of nomas Chenko. Ooh, this was and you almost got

1194
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 2: it because it wasn't Cambosis that quit, but his corner

1195
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: threw in the towel. So this corner surrendered on his behalf.

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Speaker 2: So in a sense, you kind of almost got it.

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Speaker 2: I was. I was so impressed. I at thirty six

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Speaker 2: years of age. By the way, we talked at MMA

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Speaker 2: about the stat of one to fifty five and below

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Speaker 2: Chepa Kate win championship fights. There is a conversation to

1201
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 2: be had about George Cambosa's and we will and we're

1202
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: gonna have it, but let's focus on Lomachenko. What went

1203
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: right for him BC. Here's what blew me away. And

1204
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: I listen, I'm even after all these years, I still

1205
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: feel like I'm learning so much about boxing every single

1206
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: time we have a weekend where I get to watch

1207
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: these guys.

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Speaker 1: So you don't way to go to one. I think

1209
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: it's a little much. I think it's a little much.

1210
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: But here's what I'm gonna say. It wasn't that I

1211
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: was surprised he outboxed him, but BC he punished him.

1212
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 2: He beat him up. Dude, he had him turning, he

1213
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: had him confused his was it his right eye that

1214
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,879
Speaker 2: was all just completely jacked up while he was taking

1215
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: the knee from the body shot. Dude, Lomachenko didn't just

1216
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 2: outclass him. Lomachenko put a beating on this guy and

1217
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: really said it could have cruised to a twelve round decision.

1218
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: We've been like, oh, he outclassed him, he forced his

1219
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: corner to save him. When was the last time in

1220
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: this like plus age thirty two to thirty three era

1221
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: of Wumachenko that you felt like he was going to

1222
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: be here and to be a guy who felt like

1223
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: he got robbed against Devin Haney to be here twenty.

1224
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: Four rounds with Devian Haney. And by the way, he's.

1225
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 2: Not a natural one to thirty fiver anyway, he's he's

1226
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: going up here. I think Versti talking about Umchangomenko. Oh yeah,

1227
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: for his best career opportunities.

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Speaker 1: Oh a testa tour blows it too hard, But he's right.

1229
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: Lomachenko should be fighting. I won twenty six right now.

1230
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: He should still be at featherweight. He only left twenty

1231
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: six and thirty because he couldn't get the other champions

1232
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,839
Speaker 1: to cut him together to do what is still his

1233
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: dream and what still drives him to become a four

1234
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: belt undispeeded champions. Right. He cares about the royalty and

1235
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: the hierarchy of the sport above everything else. That's why

1236
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: he tried to fight for a title in his pro debut,

1237
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 1: had to settle for a second fight, won a title

1238
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: in his third, two division titles by his seventh one

1239
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: three day, like he's he's still aiming for that undisputed

1240
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: That's what gets him out of bed. But you made

1241
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: the best point. Look, there was a a lot of

1242
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: people like to say, Oloma's only the creation of you

1243
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: media members who just love this guy and make him

1244
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: Who can he actually watchim? I had a lot of

1245
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: people hit me up on Twitter going who as he

1246
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: actually beat? And their argument is that in his biggest

1247
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: fights he stepped up and couldn't get it done against

1248
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: the big names, and who are these other guys? Well,

1249
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: these other guys, by the way, are pretty good ass

1250
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: fighters like Jorge and Lenaris, that level of guys. He's

1251
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 1: got sing to a very very good win and also

1252
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: considered the greatest amateur boxer or among that group of

1253
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: all time with two Olympic gold medals. But you can say, okay, well,

1254
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: the two biggest ones we're we talking about Hani and

1255
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: Tao Femo, he didn't get it done. He started late

1256
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: in both fights, to his detriment. Does Tayo Femo fight

1257
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: in particular by the way he started a round or

1258
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: two rounds too late and nearly rallied all the way

1259
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: back to get a back door decision? It needed Tayo

1260
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: Fimo kind of putting it on him in the twelfth

1261
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: round to secure that. Well, the Haini fight was even closer,

1262
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: and Lomos felt like he got robbed from the beginning.

1263
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: But the Haini fight, you legitimately could have scored it

1264
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: either way. So what does Loma at thirty six? Do

1265
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: I get? He's fighting cambosas who isn't Tao and Haney.

1266
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: I get that. But Cambosa's went twenty four rounds with

1267
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: Hani and was competitive. He went back to being an

1268
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: offensive force to walk him down, not gonna wait to

1269
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: figure you out and then rally late. Nothing like that. Look,

1270
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: he was on him from the beginning, two three, four

1271
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: punch combinations, different angles, walking him down. And like you said,

1272
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: the Nomashchenko thing is wild because it was a four

1273
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: fight stretch beginning with his lightweight debut, in which he

1274
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: made four consecutive fighters to quit on their stool, and

1275
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 1: he is so far above his head weight wise, power wise,

1276
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: but he came here to one thirty five because he

1277
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: knew it's the only place you can get competition. And

1278
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: even with decisions that didn't go his way again, one

1279
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I thought was his fault against Tao. Also Tayo was

1280
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: brilliant that night, and then the Hani fight, which I

1281
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: scored for Loma. You could have scored it either way.

1282
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: To come back and do this, to make this statement

1283
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: knowing that two of the ten greatest fighters in the

1284
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: sport are potentially out there in Shakur and Jervonte next,

1285
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: because what's his goal not to make a lot of

1286
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: money on pay per view, legitimately for the royalty, for

1287
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: the hierarchy, for the glory of it. How do you

1288
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: not love this? How do you not appreciate this? His

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00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: resume is awesome and he still only got less than

1290
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: like fifteen pro fights, right, I mean still, he hasn't

1291
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: been here that long because of that great amateur career

1292
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: three hundred something fights. It's a marvel that he was

1293
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: able to pull this performance out in this division be

1294
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: the puncher.

1295
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: Look, I also want to say this too. He looked

1296
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: devastated after the loss to Hani, Yes, like he didn't

1297
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: know if he wanted to do this anymore, and he

1298
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 2: was robbed. And it's controversial, and there's a whole conversation

1299
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 2: you can have about that, especially in light of the

1300
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: Garcia win over Haney. But to be up a weight

1301
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: class or several weight classes from where he probably could

1302
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 2: be competing, so you know, he's competing against bigger guys,

1303
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: and then to have this dude looked like he was

1304
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: on skates trying to find him. I'm talking about cambosis,

1305
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: then getting just dude mugged process.

1306
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: A new trainer, in a decent strategy to start, he

1307
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: was going to the body.

1308
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: He was trying to about cambosis. For a second too,

1309
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: because we're keeping praise on Limonchenko. Here's actually part of

1310
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 2: why I thought Monchenko did so great. I actually thought

1311
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: cambosis in the first maybe four or five rounds going

1312
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 2: to the body the way he did was competitive. But

1313
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: what did this guy do? He found ways around it.

1314
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: And by the way, even late he was still trying

1315
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: to go to the body, and there was a couple

1316
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: more adjustments by the way from cambosis but in the

1317
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: game of chess, it was Lomachenko who was ultimately the

1318
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: guy to stay ahead of him and then really build

1319
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: on that lead. And then just dude, he fucking tortured

1320
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: Cambosis down the last two to three rounds of that fight, so.

1321
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: We got to have the talk that we've had before.

1322
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: So we got killed mercilessly when Cambosis upset Taeo Femo.

1323
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: He was you look, if you remember, guys, Tayo Fema

1324
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: was a monster favorite, as he should have been, and

1325
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 1: that fight was as weird to build as possible because

1326
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Tayo Fimo forced the force the purse bid, so top

1327
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: rank didn't have control of the fight at ESPN Zone

1328
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: won it. De Zone couldn't ultimately and I'm sorry Triller

1329
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: won it, Luke Triller, Right, Triller won the purse bid

1330
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: on YUS because Jim Lampley was going to come out

1331
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: of retirement to call that fight. It didn't end up

1332
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: happening because of Triller's issues and rescheduling and there were

1333
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: injuries and all that, and then something it was like,

1334
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: we just got to get this mandatory out of the way,

1335
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: So Tayo Fimo took the fight do Zone ends up

1336
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: winning the rights to it. People wrote off a lot

1337
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: of what Tayo Femo said afterwards as excuses and elevated Cambosis,

1338
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: who had, by the way, a gutsy, brilliant performance. They're

1339
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: never going to take that away from him. But when

1340
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: we said or coming in, I think we said it right,

1341
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: Tao is way ahead of that guy. Guys, we have

1342
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: to wake up and realize that Tao wasn't lying about

1343
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: the injuries that he really was from that.

1344
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: So it was from this stunt he pulled with half

1345
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: thorbe Jornsen, who plays the Mountain in Game of Thrones.

1346
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: You can find it on social media. He takes all

1347
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: like as hard as that guy can standing still, but

1348
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: as hard as that guy can, he punches like a

1349
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: you know, with flexing lit his abs Taeo Feim Lopez,

1350
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: and it turned out that that did severe dam.

1351
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: For his esophagus. So Tayo Fima was told not to

1352
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: fight before that. He went against medical advice because they

1353
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: just wanted to get this mandatory over because of all

1354
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: the unhappiness with top Rank and ESPN over this fighting

1355
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: on his own, and also like top Rank was looking

1356
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: at Tao as like malcontent that he was like trying

1357
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: to blow it all up and being too greedy. So

1358
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: they said, let's just go forward with the fight. Anyway,

1359
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: We've talked to Tao on the show about I said, Tayo, look,

1360
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: let's tell the truth that first round. Did you go

1361
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: in there with the bad medical report and thinking I

1362
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: have to knock him out in the first round? I

1363
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: have to just end this. Do you remember how crazy

1364
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: Tao came out. He knocked Cambosa's down, He was putting

1365
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: it on him. He was all over for him until Cambosis,

1366
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: to his credit, adjusted hurt him back. And then that

1367
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: fight was a back and forth war the rest of

1368
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: the way and it was still kind of a close decision.

1369
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: Nothing to take away from Cambosis. What is his elite skill?

1370
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: He's determined as heck, he's got a very good chin.

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: He's durable.

1372
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Speaker 2: Also, I want to say that I want to one thing,

1373
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: one thing nice about Cambosis. You have to say he

1374
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 2: doesn't take saw fights. No, he takes a tough aspect.

1375
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: And he takes advantage and he's played into this of

1376
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: this renaissance boxing period in Australia. Why is this fight

1377
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: in Australia. Why did Manny Pacio go to australify Jeff

1378
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: Horn Because it's a fertile boxing market. It's promoted well

1379
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: duco events there. You can make a lot of money,

1380
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: big site fees. Cambosis has played his hand perfectly right.

1381
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: Him and his co promoter loud Bella got that big

1382
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: deal with top Rank. They got the two fights against

1383
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: Haney on his home soil. He's been nothing but great

1384
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: from trying to dare to be great and represent boxing.

1385
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 1: But George Cambos is not an elite fighter and never

1386
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: has been. That's also the truth. That's also the truth.

1387
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: Luke, I, I don't think how you can. Here's the thing.

1388
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: Prior to the Lopez fight, I actually did tape study

1389
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,959
Speaker 2: on him. I didn't see anything his fine fighter, didn't

1390
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: see anything special.

1391
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: He's a very good fighter. He's not great.

1392
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: He's a good fighter. And then that result blew up

1393
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: in her face and we had assis dming us about

1394
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: how we knew nothing about boxing. And since then, what

1395
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 2: has been the evidence that shows that the Lopez night

1396
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: was not a one off? I don't see it like.

1397
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: No, like again, to his credit, he gets himself in

1398
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: big fights and he doesn't get sloppily handled. Right, He's durable.

1399
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: He he gave Hainey hard rounds to a certain degree. Right.

1400
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: He is who he is. He's a tough fighter.

1401
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: That's that's so.

1402
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. By the way, is he get broiled

1403
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: now in a fight with Did you see Ryan Garcia tweeting?

1404
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: Garcia is just being a listen, right, Cambo's wife. Yeah,

1405
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: he's just been a jerk off on Twitter. And you

1406
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: can like Ryan Garcia and admit he's being a jerk

1407
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: off on Twitter.

1408
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: So camboss is then like, when I see you in

1409
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: the streets, it's on. This is not boxing and all sec.

1410
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: The wins he had before the Lopez fight Lee Selby.

1411
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: Sole Shelby was a good win, but that was an aftermarket.

1412
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: Version, so also was a split decision number one. Then

1413
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 2: he had Mickey Bay split decision.

1414
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: Or Champion again after market version.

1415
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: And then Richard Pena he beat in the first round

1416
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: or so he beat in Viako round six. Then he

1417
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 2: beats Lopez, which was a split decision two. People forget that.

1418
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: By the way, he fights, Devin Haney loses twice. Okay,

1419
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: Devin Haney is a very very good fighter. Uh, and

1420
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 2: then he had the Maxi Hughes fight, which he only

1421
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: won via majority decision. What I'm asking is show me

1422
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 2: the other performance in his record, like the Lopez one

1423
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: against a Lopez level opponent, that tells you that wasn't

1424
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: a one off.

1425
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist. I agree, and I like George Campbosa.

1426
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: It's a lot interviewed him. Think he's a very good personality,

1427
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: but it is what it is.

1428
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 2: He's still getting himself at fighter.

1429
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 1: He might get Ryan Garcia in a fight because look,

1430
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: you can go to his country and make a lot

1431
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: of money. It's true. And also, Luke, I'm still here

1432
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: for a tail female rematch one day. Like it's a

1433
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: great story. It would be an interesting fight. But that's

1434
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: about it. I don't We don't say that to take

1435
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: away from Lomachenko or even to kill George, but we

1436
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: gotta be honest, we gotta be real.

1437
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if dude Lomachenko dates thirty six up, you

1438
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: know again not in his natural weight class is like

1439
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: just mugging George Cambosis. You have to understand two things

1440
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 2: are happening simultaneously. One, you're talking about a guy who

1441
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: is just a very special talent in Lumachenko, and also

1442
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: you have a good fighter in Cambosis.

1443
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: Who is out of his depth. That's just the reality

1444
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: out of his desk. Let's spin it now because there

1445
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: is things to talk about. So Bob Aaron of Top

1446
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: Rank said before the fight, if Lomachenko wins, we want

1447
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: a match up against shir Kurs Stevens chi Kers. Stevenson

1448
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: has the WBC championship undefeated, but as we know, coming

1449
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: off a very boring performance in a fight that he

1450
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: had apologized against Edwin del Santos to win that title. Afterwards,

1451
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: Chaquer has a homecoming coming up. I don't like the

1452
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: matchup he's going to. He's going up July six against

1453
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: the guy who lost to Frank Martin Haritanian and lost

1454
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: because he circled around and wouldn't engage. Yet coming off

1455
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: of a loss, that guy gets a title shot and

1456
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: understand that. But chaquerr is a free agent after this fight,

1457
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: and Shaquer has tweeted and been open about it in

1458
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: interviews that like, I'm going to test the market. I

1459
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: might you know, I might see if if I have

1460
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: to join PBC to get the Tank fight, I might see.

1461
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: But he did say, which I think all fighters should

1462
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: say moving forward, that I'm going to sign a smaller contract. Look,

1463
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: it is fertile open season for but we talk about

1464
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: ma fighters net like just not waking up and realizing

1465
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: their brand power and what they should be fighting for

1466
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: in terms of money. Boxers need to wake up, and

1467
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: a lot of them are that. It is the potential

1468
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: here with the influx of the Saudi money and the

1469
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: leverage there for an open market in boxing moving forward.

1470
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: And what I mean by open market is what's the

1471
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: biggest thing plaguing boxing in modern times? The fact that

1472
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: everything's so segregated, and now, especially in the last ten years,

1473
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: when every major promoter has an exclusive deal with a

1474
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: major network, which makes it even harder for those crossover,

1475
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: big pay per view fights to happen. They almost have

1476
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: to be big money superfights to make happen. Everything's changing.

1477
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: Not only is Saudi Arabia here, which is bridging the

1478
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: gap and bringing everyone together and bringing record high purses

1479
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: for everybody, but I think also the young attitude of

1480
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: these new American fighters like Ryan Garcia is I'm not

1481
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna wait. Like the millennial thing. It's like I'm not

1482
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna wait I want it right now. That's gonna make

1483
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: them richer more famous. I mean, how do you become

1484
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: how do you have another four kings? People have to

1485
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: want the smoke and fight each other. We're starting to

1486
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: see that, so don't I think Shakher should call Turkey

1487
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: hell Sheik should you know, figure figure it out. But

1488
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: that's not a guarantee. Maybe Top Bob Barham says, hey, look,

1489
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: Shaker to re sign with us will get you the

1490
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: pay per view of the t of the Loma fight,

1491
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: which is a monster fight between two skilled fighters, one

1492
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: young coming up and one old trying to hold firm.

1493
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Or you have the Javonte Davis tweet which was after

1494
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: I fight and beat Frank Martin, I want Loma next.

1495
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: That would still be ESPN and top rank of Loma

1496
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: and PBC and Amazon Prime of Tank. But look, I

1497
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: do think that fight is big enough that you can

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01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: bring everybody. Don't get me wrong. If they do Chakor

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: versus Loma.

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01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be happy as a clam. But I like

1501
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: their Gravante Davis fight a little bit more.

1502
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: Let me hear about it.

1503
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so one, obviously that would be a more natural

1504
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 2: Well again, I still I is Jervonte naturally bigger than No, Yeah,

1505
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's naturally a little bit bigger than Loma,

1506
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: but it's not a huge different No.

1507
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: Gravante fights out like a walking around with Yeah.

1508
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: So this is not a case where Ryan is like

1509
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: killing himself to get down. It's a case where Lomas

1510
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: still a little bit inflated but not too bad. They're

1511
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: roughly the same size. But the KO factor for me

1512
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: from Dravante is so significant. You don't have that with

1513
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: Shaquor Stevenson, Shaquora. If he's gonna win, he's gonna outpoint,

1514
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 2: you know, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna dance, he's

1515
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna look cool, but he's not gonna like throttle him. Dravante,

1516
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: to me, has shown that he's got the ability to

1517
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 2: both be precise. His timing is impeccable, his accuracy is ridiculous,

1518
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: and his fucking power is next level that level of

1519
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: danger young versus old. Yes, and again, everyone looks at

1520
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: Loma like a skill technician. I look at Dravante. I'm

1521
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 2: not saying he's got the same as Loma, but I

1522
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: am saying I do think that the skills of Dravante

1523
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 2: are underrated, but the danger factor with these makes it

1524
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 2: significantly more interesting to me.

1525
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: You know what, I hope the further of the opening

1526
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: of the market and boxing does fueled again by Saudi

1527
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: just stepping in and just changing the game. I hope

1528
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: that when we have fights like this, and I do

1529
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: think Gervonta Davis versus Lomachenko is big enough where it

1530
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: can be both the historic defining fight on Dravonte's career,

1531
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: in the in the in the you know the the

1532
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: forgot the word I'm gonna say, But what I'm trying

1533
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: to say is for all the creators saying Javonte hasn't

1534
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: fought these guys or these guys of this talent level,

1535
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: it's the perfect antidote for that, right. It's also, in

1536
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,919
Speaker 1: my eye, a blockbuster where you would bring the two

1537
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: networks together. So what I hope moving forward, Luke, you

1538
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: remember when Tank fought Ryan, and the only way it

1539
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: actually really happened was that Ryan pushed so hard for

1540
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,919
Speaker 1: it that the Zone basically came to that crossroads and said,

1541
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: to make this fight happen, which we would still benefit

1542
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: from financially. We could still sell it on our platform

1543
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: as a pay per view, but we have to let

1544
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: PBC in Showtime take the production lead. I hope we

1545
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: get to a point where networks can come together that

1546
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: have the exclusive deals and just basically say we're going

1547
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 1: to run the pay per view on both networks. And

1548
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't really I don't think the fans care. If

1549
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: you buy it one network, you get that announced teamor

1550
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: if you buy it on this network can get that

1551
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 1: announced team. Or if we do like HBO and Showtime

1552
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: did a few times for Mayweather Pakiau, or for Clitch

1553
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: Goo versus Joshua where they combine the announced teams together

1554
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: and make an also Tam, I don't care what they do,

1555
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 1: like that doesn't even really matter. But if you can

1556
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 1: sell the pay per view on both platforms, then this

1557
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: fixes everything, right, then you can make that fight. Then yes,

1558
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: I would rather have Tank versus Loma then Loma versus Shakur,

1559
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: even though Loma versus Shakur is a true pound for

1560
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: pound top ten wet dream fight and a potential like

1561
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: passing of the baton, and a.

1562
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: Lot of will ask you, why isn't that the case? Well,

1563
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 2: I was going to get there.

1564
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: I was going to say that that's what it is

1565
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: for the Shakur fight, but there's still enough of that

1566
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: in the Tank fight. And then you get the fact

1567
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: that it's also going to be a blockbuster crossover fight. Dude,

1568
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: this is great. And the fact that it's not Tank,

1569
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's not Loma Chenko being a businessman opportunist

1570
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: and being like I want to go out there and

1571
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: get the money. It's him just trying to unify the

1572
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: belts and those happen to be the champions. So Luke,

1573
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: I hope we get that next. But the final question

1574
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: on this is the most important one in my opinion.

1575
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: Womachenko walked down and beat up Cambosis in a way

1576
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: that turned back the clocks.

1577
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: By the way, you didn't even talk about that, like

1578
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 2: just absolutely just marching him down.

1579
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: We talked about a lot. Can he do that against

1580
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: Tank with the threat of that power or will it

1581
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: be inevitable that he's going to start late like he

1582
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: had to do against Tayo Fimo because of the threat

1583
01:06:58,720 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 1: of the speed and power.

1584
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 2: I think Tank is a super maybe, well it depends

1585
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: on your perspective, but for my money, he's a very

1586
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: very underrated counterpuncher. I think walking him down is a

1587
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: very dubious strategy. I think you have to play angles

1588
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: with him. I mean, obviously you know Estak Kruz did it,

1589
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: but Estat Kruz got his whole system down, and he's

1590
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: kind of like a bulldog, and right the pit bull thing,

1591
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: it kind of works for him. Also, he had he

1592
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: had Davis on the move in that fight. I don't

1593
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: think I don't think Loma is that guy. I don't

1594
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 2: think he can do that. I think he has to have.

1595
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: You know, you got to be careful about about Davis

1596
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 2: marching you down. But I think turning, playing angles, touch

1597
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: and go is a real opportunity for him.

1598
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: Damn any any of these matchups. This is what we want.

1599
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: All these are the four Princes or whatever you want

1600
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 1: to call them. This is our era, this is our time.

1601
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 1: Enjoy it.

1602
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 2: We thought twenty twenty three was an insane boxing year,

1603
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four might be even more insane. Dude, So

1604
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: let's talk about it.

1605
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: BC.

1606
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: Let's get the context for this weekend. I know there's

1607
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: a UFC fight this weekend. Great, the biggest one by

1608
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: far by a million miles. Is not that one. All

1609
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: due respect to Ensen, Barboza and the crew BC Olexander

1610
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: Usik versus Tyson Fury. It is now upon us. It

1611
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 2: is for literally all the marbles, well metaphorically, all the

1612
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: marbles at heavyweight has a fight. How like this hasn't

1613
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: happened since nineteen nine nine, as you indicated, and has

1614
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: never happened in the four belt era. This is one face,

1615
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 2: one name, one set of belts, essentially, Okay.

1616
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: One champion. That's what we always wanted.

1617
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 2: So let's set the context for people who might not

1618
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: understand how big is this fight and exactly we kind

1619
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 2: of alluded to it, but give us some details about

1620
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 2: what makes it so meaningful.

1621
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy that I fight this big that

1622
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: means so much to not just a heavyweight division, but

1623
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: by proxy as the heavyweight. As heavyweight division goes, so

1624
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: does boxing. Is the famous line there. It affects the

1625
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: sport so much. When Fury upset Vladimir klitsch Go in

1626
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,240
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, it ended a heavyweight era and it was

1627
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: a as I like to say, a dark, lonely, cold

1628
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: one with the Klitschko brothers. Not their fault, but there

1629
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: was just nobody for them to fight. They domed and

1630
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: especially on Vladimir's the tail end of his run in

1631
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: a very GSP five round let me hit you and

1632
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: hold you a type of strategy and just wasn't exciting.

1633
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: Fury flip the apple cart upside down. That began this

1634
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: era of light of illumination, like, oh my god, boxing

1635
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: could actually get their shit together if we have a

1636
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: viable heavyweight division with real stars that want the smoke

1637
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: and confight. I mean we got that with this era finally,

1638
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: but we always said it not really gonna matter until

1639
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: this moment. One name, one face one champion where we

1640
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: don't have to say, well, now he's the IBF champion,

1641
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: but that guy over there has the other three welt No,

1642
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 1: what do you say? You want to you want to

1643
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: talk to people that don't know about boxing but are interested.

1644
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: You want to say the heavyweight champion is fighting Saturday,

1645
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: not the unified or the partial one, the undisputed one.

1646
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: So this is actually even though it's it's become just

1647
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 1: another fight, to some degree, this doesn't have the buzz

1648
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,919
Speaker 1: I thought it would. Maybe it's because it's just another

1649
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: banger blockbuster that sawt he's rolling out. Maybe that's why.

1650
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: But you have two all time great fighters. Here a

1651
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 1: new second fury, both unbeaten, both champion that are going

1652
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: against you each other to not only solve that question

1653
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: of who's the best heavyweight of this modern renaissance era,

1654
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: but really to produce the potential of like a top

1655
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: ten heavyweight all the time. I know that sounds like

1656
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: crazy in a reach, but let's look at what we

1657
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: have here. You couldn't have a crazier style contrast. You

1658
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: couldn't have a crazier contrast in personality. Separate countries coming together,

1659
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,879
Speaker 1: we are going to have a four belt champion, undisputed, unbeaten,

1660
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: and we have a guaranteed rematch on paper. It's Alexander Usik,

1661
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe the greatest cruiserweight in boxing history, who became

1662
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: the first four belt undisputed champion by running through a

1663
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,679
Speaker 1: murderer's row of unbeaten candidates and champions to get there.

1664
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: He's a two time Olympic gold medalist and since coming

1665
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: to heavyweight with the whispers of hey, great one cruiserweight,

1666
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,760
Speaker 1: great running the Olympics, but you'll be too small and

1667
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: heavyweight pro boxing until he wasn't until he beat Anthony

1668
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: Joshua twice and endured the heavy shots and stood in

1669
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: there and showed us that he's next level. Well, even

1670
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: though it took a year and a half once this

1671
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: was the only fight to make to get here, we

1672
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: finally have it. Tysony is the star of stars, still undefeated,

1673
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: six foot nine or so, but six foot seven ish.

1674
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: This gives him an opportunity Fury to have really maybe

1675
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: arguably outside of the upside of Clitch going twenty fifteen,

1676
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: and obviously he's got big ticket wins over Wilder twice

1677
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 1: and Tillion White and all those, this is the most critical,

1678
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 1: the most important, historical, critical fight on his resume because

1679
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: of the stakes. If Tyson Fury wants to have a

1680
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: fighting chance of being a top ten heavyweight at all time,

1681
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: whether that matters to him or not. And I'll be

1682
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: talking to him this week for Morning Combat, so hopefully

1683
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: we'll get that answer. But like, this is that opportunity,

1684
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: what about the opportunity for the history on the side

1685
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: of USAK It's not just about this being the culmination

1686
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 1: of this renaissance era and we finally have one four

1687
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: belt champion and have an undisputed champion for the first

1688
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: time since Lennox Lewis defeated Evander Holyfield in the rematch.

1689
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 1: Is look like you are bringing together for Usaka chance.

1690
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: You're a two time gold medalist at the Olympics at

1691
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 1: a heavyweight, you are the arguably the greatest cruise weight

1692
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: of all time in the four belt on disputed champion.

1693
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:04,719
Speaker 1: And imagine if you become the four belt undisputed heavyweight champion,

1694
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 1: undefeated after beating Anthony Joshua twice in Tyson fury, what

1695
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: the hell would we do with him? Historically?

1696
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 2: Seriously, we just like we just had this conversation last week.

1697
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 2: You know who is the best boxer runnerarth Is it

1698
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford or is it Noi? In a way, well,

1699
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: maybe it's neither of those.

1700
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: Maybe it's elegidr Usik. The fact that these two heavyweights

1701
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: are coming together with all that history on the line,

1702
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: and the winner might have an argument for pound for

1703
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: pound number one in the world right now when we're

1704
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: talking about Niowa in the way Terrence Crawford and Canelo

1705
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 1: Alvarez right there, from a historical, hardcore everything we love

1706
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: about the sports standpoint, this is the fight. This is

1707
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: everything we ever wanted, and yet it's just another super

1708
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: fight in this two year crazy stretch where things are

1709
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: wild and out of control and it's such a great

1710
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: style matchup which no one's talking about either. Luke, this

1711
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: is the number one part about this matchup that is

1712
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: getting me fired up in the question that I need

1713
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: answered most on Saturday in Saudi is this Tyson Fury

1714
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: is the ultimate games mess task man, like the guy

1715
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: who can set the mental warfare stage and use that

1716
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: to his advantage, just like he does with his incredible

1717
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 1: long arms and middleweight quickness in the heavyweight body. But

1718
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: Usik cannot be shaken mentally and is almost to the

1719
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: point where he's starting to do mental games back at

1720
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: Fury and has from the beginning if you can't break

1721
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: him mentally and your Tyson Fury, sure where he's still

1722
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: rightfully the betting favorite, But is this ultimately the boss

1723
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: at the end of the video game that even Tyson Fury,

1724
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: who got floored by Anganu and made us really start

1725
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: to have to recalibrate where he's at by the way

1726
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: he's in the shape of his life for this fight

1727
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: to show you how serious it is. Is Usik the

1728
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: wrong guy at the wrong time, who's just skilled and

1729
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: determined at a level. Don't forget two years ago, he's

1730
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: on the front lines of war in the Ukraine and

1731
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: he's back. This might be the true kryptonite for Tyson

1732
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: Fury at the end of this heavyweight video game. It

1733
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: really might be. From a style standpoint and from a

1734
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: mindset standpoint, that wild card part of the matchup when

1735
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: you're matching up their true skills, it's really hard to

1736
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: define what this fight's gonna look like.

1737
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: I have spent the majority of my time watching usik In,

1738
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: watching Fury and watching who else they beat and how

1739
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: they beat him. Now the Joshua one obviously makes it

1740
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: a little bit different, but in general, certainly through the

1741
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 2: Cruiserweight campaign, I've often just thought, not that I not

1742
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 2: that when he was a cruise weight, I thought he

1743
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: was gonna fight Tyson Fury. But I'm just saying I've

1744
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: been sort of looking at Tyson Fury as the guy

1745
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 2: at heavyweight. I thought that Deontay Wilder wins when no

1746
01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: one else wanted to fight Deontaey, he took him on. Obviously,

1747
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: there was the draw the first time, but then he

1748
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 2: proved victorious over the course of three bouts, And now

1749
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: I don't know anymore. You had the real bad what

1750
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: do you want to call it? Underperformance against Francis and

1751
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: Ganu whatever that was. I know he eked out the wind,

1752
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 2: but he didn't look great.

1753
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: He was overweight and underprepared. Let's be let's be honest.

1754
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, whatever the reasons, did he look great? He

1755
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 2: did not look great. And you do have the situation

1756
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 2: with USA getting hit to the body by Dubois that

1757
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: is somewhat controversial, but I believe he would have stood

1758
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: up no matter what. The point I want to make

1759
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: is I've had such a long run as like Fury's

1760
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 2: the guy, Fury is the guy, and now fight week

1761
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: is here and I don't know the answer to that.

1762
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: Here's what I think is going to be two central

1763
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: fault lines in this fight. Number one, let's get back

1764
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 2: to it. I think Tyson Fury is going to go

1765
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: to that body over and over again, because it's not

1766
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: just the Dubois fight where he got hurt to the body.

1767
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 2: And again, think about how usak his head movement and

1768
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: is timing. It's hard to find. The body is going

1769
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: to be there a lot more. Fury, much bigger guy.

1770
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: I might have forty to sixty pounds on him depending

1771
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 2: about what time you you know, naturally anyway, So I

1772
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be a big target for him. I

1773
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 2: think you're gonna get a lot of that. To what

1774
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 2: extent can Usik solve for that? To what extent doesn't

1775
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: hurt him? That's fault line number one. Here's the other one, dude,

1776
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury might keep it at the end of his range,

1777
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: but I think he knows Usik's going to eventually find

1778
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 2: his way inside, and when he does, he's gonna have

1779
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: to have an answer. Maybe some of the body work

1780
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 2: is that, But I think the other part is Tyson

1781
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: Fury will break the rules. We all know he'll get dude,

1782
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: we all have seen the videos and they're not conclusive.

1783
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 2: But you wonder if he had his glove higher up

1784
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: on his hand in the when they think of the

1785
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,440
Speaker 2: Wilder remakes.

1786
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: He was slapping him with side arm punches and then

1787
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: a glove was there's that?

1788
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: And then how about that elbow that was so intentional

1789
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 2: on Francis Nganu. I think Tyson Fury, you talking about

1790
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 2: mind games. I don't think this is going to do

1791
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 2: much to you, Usik. But once they get in there

1792
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: and he's locking him up and maybe turning him and

1793
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 2: maybe tripping him and hanging on him and stop and

1794
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: sneaking through shots that are questionable that he should not

1795
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: be getting in locations that are kind of borderline what happens.

1796
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: That, okay, but there's a big butt to that. Tyson

1797
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: Fury changed his body in his style when he dropped

1798
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: Ben Davison, who a defensive technical coach who helped him

1799
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: to the first fight a while of the draw, which

1800
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: Fury really want if you really score that fight the

1801
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 1: right way, uh, and he wanted to become a knockout puncher.

1802
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: I think it was more the influence from what happened

1803
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: in the Out of Vaileen fight where he was cut

1804
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 1: and Fury suddenly had to like maul and hold and

1805
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: be the bigger man. Whatever. What Fury did to prepare

1806
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: for the Wilder Fights two and three was become a

1807
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: knockout puncher, become as big as possible. His father, John Fury, who,

1808
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 1: by the way, we're gonna get to in a second Jesus,

1809
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: has always said, I think my son's at his best

1810
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: when he's three hundred pounds or more, and he was

1811
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 1: openly critical of how light Tyson Fury weighed in the

1812
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: first Wilder fight when Ben Davison was his trainer. Luke,

1813
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: what have we seen since then? We've seen a Fury who,

1814
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: even when in shape, has the love handles and the

1815
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: big belly, and we've just come to say, look, that's

1816
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: the Fury package he's gonna lean on. You. Have you

1817
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 1: seen the pictures of Fury, Luke leading up to here.

1818
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: He looks lean, he is relatively No, he's the leanist.

1819
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 1: I've seen him since the Klitschko fight since twenty fifteen,

1820
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: I think, or maybe since the first Wilder fight, the

1821
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: leanest by far with the abs that I've ever seen him.

1822
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 1: So that's a strong word. That doesn't tell me that

1823
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: he's necessarily planning to lean all over Usik and just

1824
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,720
Speaker 1: try to rely on being the bigger man along with

1825
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: some strategic key sheeting. And by the way, Bhop was

1826
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: a great cheater too. I mean, there is a strategic way, okay,

1827
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: But Luke, I'm not seeing that in the body. What

1828
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: the body's telling me is that, Okay, we saw how

1829
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: fat was Tyson Fury was and then gone fight and

1830
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,960
Speaker 1: everything just looked horrible, including by the way his mental

1831
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: reaction to getting dropped Luke, he became the boxer. After that,

1832
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,600
Speaker 1: he became the like let me hit in hold and

1833
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,799
Speaker 1: just try to get out of there. That was surprising,

1834
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 1: But maybe you can just write it off as bad stamina.

1835
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: Nui was in a bad spot. He is physically leaving

1836
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 1: no stone unturned. So can he still be that guy

1837
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: and lean all over him? I think he's knowing he's

1838
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to turn in this into a twelve round

1839
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: chess match. It might have to be that. So he's

1840
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: got to have the stamina for that. He's gotta have

1841
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: the quickness for that. That's what the body shape is

1842
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: telling me right here.

1843
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I would agree with some of that, but I

1844
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: still feel like you're gonna be You're gonna have a

1845
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 2: bigger frame, You're gonna have a longer reach. These things

1846
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: have to come into play. But once he breaks through

1847
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 2: your defenses, there has to be a secondary game. And

1848
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,720
Speaker 2: I think that secondary game is going to be full

1849
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 2: of cheating. I really do believe that. Like, who's the

1850
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 2: referee for this contest?

1851
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: Do we know? I don't know yet.

1852
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 2: I think they have their hands full. I think they

1853
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 2: have their hands full, and I again I want to

1854
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: be clear. It's not like, oh, you're saying he's a

1855
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: dirty fighter. Well, sort of like in this in the

1856
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: not in the I'm desperate I'm gonna do I'm gonna

1857
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 2: bite this guy to get out of it.

1858
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 1: No, I don't mean that.

1859
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: I mean crafty veteran who will do everything he can,

1860
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: including absorbing referee warnings, maybe even a point deduction, to

1861
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: do whatever he can to rattle his opponent, to off

1862
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 2: balance him, to introduce some kind of strange factor here,

1863
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: whatever you can do on top of that his size,

1864
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 2: and on top of that his skill. The combination of

1865
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:19,600
Speaker 2: the three, I think is what you're really going to

1866
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: get here.

1867
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: All right, as we lean into the prediction part here,

1868
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: Luke and sort of try to really figure out what

1869
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: Saturday does look like, I think you would echo me

1870
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 1: in saying that all along, once Usik put himself in

1871
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 1: a position to be viable, that we thought this fight

1872
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: could eventually happen. We've said, what great fight, But Fury's

1873
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: too big, too skilled, and too quick even at six

1874
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 1: foot seven and a half or whatever he is, that

1875
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: he's going to get it done. He's been always the

1876
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: favorite in our mind, as he should have been Fury

1877
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 1: is at all time, have you Let's be very fair

1878
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 1: and nonced about that. He ruins the mythical matchups when

1879
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: you're talking about Joe Lewis or Rocky Marciano at you know,

1880
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: eleven and or five ' ten and what like one

1881
01:19:57,439 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five pounds. Are those guys going to

1882
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: compete against the foot nine and you know two seventy five.

1883
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't think so seriously. It ruins that kind of divide,

1884
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: but I think the last couple of years it hasn't.

1885
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: You know, Fury's not washed, He's not over the hill.

1886
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 1: He always plays up or down to the level of

1887
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: his competition, which does explain when he has a bad night,

1888
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: and he has. Before the Fury upset, he had a

1889
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: lot of bad nights, to be fair, where he was

1890
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: fat and just uninspired. He's a gamer when so he

1891
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: can turn it up for the big ones. But like

1892
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: so is Usik. Usik has an ability to rise to

1893
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: the occasion to another level. Think the the Myris Bratest

1894
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: fight in the semi finals of the World Boxing Super

1895
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: Series tournament at cruiserweight. Think I mean, look, think the

1896
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: Joshua fights. He steps up to another level. And takes

1897
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 1: it to a higher notch. That's a wild card element

1898
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 1: in here. I think the time when you add in

1899
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: the Anganu situation, even if you can completely write that

1900
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: off as being too heavy and not focused, I just

1901
01:20:55,360 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 1: think Usik's peaking, like Usik is arriving here where Fury's more,

1902
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: we're in a maintenance mode of trying to hold it

1903
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: all together, like I do, think Fury has extended the

1904
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: life of this fight seemingly purposely. It should have happened

1905
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: a year ago, right, should up a year and a

1906
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: half ago? Okay, we're finally having it. I think I'm

1907
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: ready to pick Usick in this matchup before the first time.

1908
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how he's gonna do it, though,

1909
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: because it's going to depend on exactly what Fury we're getting.

1910
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: But we know that for as technically brilliant as he is,

1911
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 1: Usik can be daring in very good ways. Luke, is

1912
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: it possible that he can win a twelve round chess

1913
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: match meaning Usik without having the ability to hurt Fury

1914
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:30,759
Speaker 1: at all? In your eyes?

1915
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think he has an any other way

1916
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: to win. He has to outsmart him. He has to

1917
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 2: be the craftier.

1918
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: I think he has the chin to endure what Fury

1919
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 1: has to offer if he took Joshua's punches. I think

1920
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 1: that's true.

1921
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 2: Wow, do you want to hear the odds on DraftKings

1922
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: so this fight? How many times do you see a

1923
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 2: boxing main event with odds like this with this much

1924
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 2: at stake?

1925
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: Righty like plus one twenty five or something.

1926
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury according to our friends at DraftKings minus one

1927
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 2: twenty Wow, Alexander Usik plus one hundred. That is about

1928
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: as close to hip and dude, this is for all

1929
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 2: the marbles at heavyweight.

1930
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: This is for the guy. Don't forget. In New York

1931
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: City at that time, I walked up to Teddy Hearn

1932
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: and said, Eddie, I love you, but USI's coming for

1933
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: your boy, Joshua. He's going to shake up this heavyweight

1934
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 1: division and he's going to have a shot at the

1935
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: end of the day to fight for the Underspeed Championship.

1936
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: And he said, no, too small, can't do it. Luke

1937
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 1: Usik has constantly, you know, and whatever we say he

1938
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 1: can't do, he keeps climbing and he does it. I

1939
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: think there is a path to victory here. I think

1940
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm picking Usick here by upset because you saw the odds,

1941
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 1: which that that's what Vegas is times, that's what the

1942
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: true people in the know that the sharps, the smarts

1943
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 1: are telling you. How does Fury change that though? How

1944
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: does Fury humble that even if we get the best

1945
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 1: version possible of Usik, can the best version possible of

1946
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: Fury as in? And can he still access that? Can

1947
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: he get the job done?

1948
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: I really believe he has to hurt Usick. I really

1949
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 2: believe that he has to change Usick's calculations. And I

1950
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: saw a preview I forget the gentleman's name, you have

1951
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: to forgive me a British guy, and he made a

1952
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 2: very standard about Lee Wiley. No, no, no, no, it

1953
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: was a guy on camera. I forget his name. It

1954
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 2: was for TNT and he had pointed out, like you know,

1955
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: if you're if you again go back to it, if

1956
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: you try to find the head of Usik, it's really

1957
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: quite difficult to do. It's the head movement, the slotting,

1958
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 2: the pre slips, it's just hard to know what's coming.

1959
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 2: But you go go to the body, it changes a

1960
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 2: lot more. To the point, he was saying, what is

1961
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: one of the very best parts of Usik's game, it's

1962
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 2: his footwork. His footwork is extraordinary. Well, how do you

1963
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: take some of that away? How do you slow him down?

1964
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: You got to you gotta roast his ribs. Yeah, And

1965
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 2: I really believe, if I'll say this, if Fury can't

1966
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: meaningfully hurt him to the body, he can't win. I

1967
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: just I firmly believe that if Usik is on the move, right,

1968
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: if Usik is not hurt and on the move, how

1969
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: do you beat that guy? Seriously, how do you beat

1970
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 2: that guy? If he can do both of those things?

1971
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: He's so bad.

1972
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: He is unhurt and he can move. You're fucked. You're

1973
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 2: super fucked.

1974
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: He has the Usik has these side arm punches that

1975
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 1: are hard to pick up, that go around the guard.

1976
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: He knock Tony Bell you out with that. I mean

1977
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: like he's got a creativity to his offense that is

1978
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: really going to get Fury pause. But again, with Fury

1979
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: coming in in this level shape, I think we're gonna

1980
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 1: see active guard Fury again, like the first Wild the fight,

1981
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 1: like the Clitch Goo fight, I think he's realizing maybe

1982
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 1: the only way to beat this wizards to out wizard him.

1983
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: Use a size, yes, use his power advantage, yes, yes,

1984
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 1: but he's not coming in. I don't think as the

1985
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds have you weight.

1986
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,559
Speaker 2: Looking at the purses of the show, I'll make a pick,

1987
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 2: but I.

1988
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: Don't you have to look, I'm not gonna shome well know.

1989
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 2: I think it's important because it's a fun contest.

1990
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 1: The way John Fury's bloodyhead in a second.

1991
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 2: Some of the other places have this as a straight

1992
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 2: up pick them, but friends of DraftKings minus one, twenty

1993
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: four tests and Fury, I think right now I'm feeling

1994
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: usick as well. I feel like to your point, I, oh,

1995
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: he went through cruiserweight. Well that's fine. I mean, heavyweight's

1996
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: not the best division, but it's a different one than cruiserweight.

1997
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 2: And then he's just carving these guys up too. I

1998
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 2: feel like his boxing. I don't know if anyone has

1999
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: his boxing IQ in the heavyweight division and maybe maybe

2000
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: all of boxing. He is the wouldn't you agree with

2001
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,640
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2002
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: No question about it. But you make a great point

2003
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: about the odds and about it being difficult to know

2004
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,920
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2005
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,840
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2006
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2009
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2010
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2011
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2013
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2014
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2022
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2031
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: you could say there hasn't been a viral moment yet

2032
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: between these two. Well, is there enough, you know, hatred

2033
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: to sell this fight on the level where the history

2034
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: sells it. John Fury's here, and if you don't know

2035
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: the father of Tyson Fury, Big John Fury, the man,

2036
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: a fighting man who will literally fight anybody shirtless right

2037
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: now anywhere to prove his mandud. The reason why you've

2038
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: never seen something like we're about to show you is

2039
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: because Tyson Fury used to fight in the States all

2040
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: the time before the Daniel Kinahan situation, and John Fury

2041
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 1: is not allowed to fly to the US.

2042
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 2: Y Luke, you may have gouged a man's eye.

2043
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: Out in a bar and did time for it. Well,

2044
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,479
Speaker 1: John Fury showed up here in Saudi to try to

2045
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: hype this fight up. Let's go to the videotape, Luke,

2046
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: if you can see it right there, Big John Fury

2047
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: just Headbuddedge.

2048
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: Show him one more time if you can.

2049
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 1: A member of Team Ousik watch.

2050
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 2: Oh there it is, do you I have ever told

2051
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: you the story about this? One time I was at

2052
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: a bar and I saw a guy head but another

2053
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: guy and it fucked him up proper.

2054
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: No, No, it's I've seen and look here is the

2055
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,639
Speaker 1: iconic post photo of the original Gypsy King, Big John Fury.

2056
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: So so, my understanding on headbuts, and I am no

2057
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 2: head butt expert, by instressing imagination is you're supposed to

2058
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: do it closer to the hairline, which is where the

2059
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 2: everything is the strongest for you, both skin and bone,

2060
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 2: and his is a little bit more down here. I

2061
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 2: saw a guy at a bar one time. These two

2062
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: guys were drawing at each other and the other one

2063
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,679
Speaker 2: went back wow, and he shattered the other guy's nose

2064
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: and blood. I mean it's sprayed everywhere when he did it.

2065
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: It was really anyone that's ever been to Rookies and Cromwell,

2066
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Connecticut knows about bar fights. Good lord, that's what I've seen.

2067
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I've seen some gross ones. All right, Luke, we got

2068
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: to keep the show moving because I have epic shit

2069
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,360
Speaker 1: to come. But wear from the people. Is that in mind.

2070
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Let's time.

2071
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 2: It's time for you guys to ask us questions. It's

2072
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 2: time for dms from the diggity dull do it. Here's

2073
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 2: a donkey have it sex?

2074
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Can we change that already, Long Island.

2075
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Sir, Yes we can change it, Thank you very much.

2076
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: Is your dad from Perth, Western Australia, by the way, No,

2077
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: he's from Melbourne.

2078
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: All right, you mean mel Bunn.

2079
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2080
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 2: They just dropped like eight letters to pronounce that that way.

2081
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what you got first. I haven't

2082
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 2: even looked at these. Here we go from Big Daddy

2083
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: round Tree. Thoughts on Dana giving himself slash UFC credit

2084
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: for the great fights but blaming his fighters that he

2085
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: hired and booked, by the way, when the fights are boring,

2086
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 2: and that's funny, like when this UFC three hundred, this

2087
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: is what we do when the fights are bad. Well,

2088
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 2: that's what they did.

2089
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, Dana's you have to assume he's lying.

2090
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 2: He's a promoter, promoter. Every single promoter lies.

2091
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 1: But Luke, it goes a little deeper than that lately,

2092
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: like him being like I told everybody, when are we

2093
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: gonna get out of the apex. It's like, no, that's

2094
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: what the media has been crying for forever. This coincides,

2095
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:49,680
Speaker 1: I think with this video that's getting a lot of

2096
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: viralness of Dana on the virality virality on the bill?

2097
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: Is it Bill Maher, Bill Maher, Bill Moore's got I

2098
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 1: think it's club. Let's listen to this quote and we'll

2099
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: see the subs qut reaction here from Great Maynard. This

2100
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: is Dana White talking about mental health.

2101
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to ever fucking talk about my feelings

2102
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 3: with another fucking dude.

2103
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: But you don't mean that. I mean that's too far.

2104
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean no, No, I'm that guy. I'm that guy.

2105
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 3: It drives my wife fucking crazy. No, I don't want

2106
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 3: to talk about my feelings.

2107
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I'm one of.

2108
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 3: Those fucking old school guys, you know when you talk

2109
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 3: about men's mental health and that men have to carry

2110
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 3: this burden and men, yeah, that's what we fucking do.

2111
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 3: Guess what, somebody's got to get up. I have a family, right,

2112
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 3: I have children. I got to get up every day

2113
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 3: and go to fucking work and I have to, you know,

2114
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 3: do what I have to do.

2115
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: And no I don't. I mean, I'm shit about my feelings.

2116
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 3: You know, you see these guys these days on fucking

2117
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 3: social media like, hey, you know, you know, you know,

2118
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm just talking about a bad day and this happened,

2119
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 3: and I'm fucking right, and shut the fuck up.

2120
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: I get up.

2121
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I get the fucking work and do what you

2122
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: gotta do, and and be a fucking man. Be a man.

2123
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: I tell you this, be a dude, die on the

2124
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 2: job unhappy by numbing your feelings.

2125
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I want to say before we throw the great major

2126
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,360
Speaker 1: tweet that I'm not going to sit here and continue

2127
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Speaker 1: this s grudge against data and be like everything is negative.

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01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: I agree with the premise of I think what he's

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01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,600
Speaker 1: trying to say, which is like sometimes in life, to

2130
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,360
Speaker 1: be that guy, to be the provider, to be the

2131
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 1: leader or the boss, you got to just bite down

2132
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: and get through it. That's the American ingenuity spirit. But

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01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,320
Speaker 1: when you close it with like be a man, and

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01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:28,880
Speaker 1: you sort of make it a negative slant against mental

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01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 1: health in general or the or the speaking of treatment.

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01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 2: Do people not understand what happens during therapy? First of all,

2137
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: you can look this up this Please don't take my

2138
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 2: work for it. Do not take my work for it.

2139
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:43,879
Speaker 2: The amount of evidence that talk therapy, cognitive behavioral cognitive

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01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 2: behavioral therapy that it works is overwhelming for men and women.

2141
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 2: It's overwhelming. Therapy is not a time where you show

2142
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 2: up and you cry about how sad your life is.

2143
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 2: Certainly if you have if your wife or child died,

2144
01:30:56,520 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: yes you could do that. It's a roadmap to understand

2145
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: why you feel the way you feel, what decisions you

2146
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:05,800
Speaker 2: have made in the course of your life that brought

2147
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: you here, what the events that have happened to you

2148
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 2: have brought you here, and a roadmap to get past it.

2149
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: It is not about indulging your own suffering as a

2150
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: way to make people feel.

2151
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Sorry share you.

2152
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: It is a way to release and move on from

2153
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 2: the suffering by understanding why it's happening so it doesn't

2154
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 2: keep happening again. Let's know what the fuck are people talking.

2155
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Let's go to X title contender Gray Maynard here, who

2156
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: quote tweeted this and said, talking about Dana, this guy's

2157
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: middle name is feelings, anger, compulsive gambling, caught on film

2158
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: hitting his wife, Twitter, rants, interview, rants, His life is feelings, emotions.

2159
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: I can't believe people buy that shit. Also, just because

2160
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 1: you have money doesn't mean you have emotional.

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01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,679
Speaker 2: Intelligence or tough guy. Also, by the way, the whole

2162
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 2: thing is like the like there's like alpha motivation was

2163
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 2: the account.

2164
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 1: What's a free throw line? Dunk right then dunk.

2165
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 2: But the point being is like there it's this video

2166
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,799
Speaker 2: about like, hey, don't don't do anything with your feelings

2167
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 2: except ignore them. And they're playing cold Play in the background,

2168
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: one of the most emo fucking bands of all fucking time.

2169
01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 2: It wasn't like they were playing Pantera.

2170
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,480
Speaker 1: Or something in the background. It was Coldplay.

2171
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 2: More to the point, it's like, dude, if you're making

2172
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 2: hit pieces about media members, you feel more than anybody else.

2173
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: When you're actively driving away media from your events and

2174
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: trying to retrain the public to look at media like

2175
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 1: an enemy, that means you can't take constructive criticism and

2176
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: you can't even unfortunately, look at this why we complain

2177
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: about pres conferences. You can't even entertain criticism or anything

2178
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: subjective in even a conversation or debate. Like it's sort

2179
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, so in general, when Dana is saying

2180
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 1: one thing and doing another, it's tough, but I love this,

2181
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 1: like fuck my emotions. So that means you just get

2182
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 1: to be angry all the time and just ran. Yeah,

2183
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: this is how I mean.

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 2: Listen, if I had friends who were billionaires and maybe

2185
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 2: I made a ton of money, I might feel differently

2186
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 2: about this. But the evidence is clear. Therapy is real.

2187
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 2: It works, not every time enough for everybody, not in

2188
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 2: every situation, but this idea that you can just hold

2189
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,799
Speaker 2: onto your feelings and outwork them, you can numb yourself

2190
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 2: through professional exploits. Guys, again, the camera's already on me,

2191
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: look at me. You are destined for a life of

2192
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: unhappiness and people will not want to be around you, hopefully.

2193
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: Hopefully you have Dana's money, though.

2194
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Hopefully unless you have Dana's money, which case, you can

2195
01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 2: fix a lot of problems.

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01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 1: Well some of them, but not all of them. As

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01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: Gray Maynard pointed out, let's go to the second one here.

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Speaker 2: Luke, all right, Uh, you don't know, Tyler, I don't

2199
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know all what would another

2200
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: loss look like for Josh Taylor at this point, that's

2201
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: out of left field.

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01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna have the rematch with Jack Catterall coming up.

2203
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Who what is that schedule for?

2204
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: In the next couple more where call got robbed like

2205
01:33:38,120 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: robbed and then since then, even though Josh Taylor lost

2206
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: his status, says, even though he retained his titles in

2207
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: that fight, Josh Taylor was stripped of a bunch of

2208
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 1: his belts. He was the undisputed one hundred and forty

2209
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: pound champion for beating Jose Ramirez, but when he went

2210
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 1: to that Tayo Femo fight, it was still the lineal

2211
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: one forty title at stake, and look we saw Tayo

2212
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: Fimo remind us of his powerful pound ability. I thought

2213
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Josh Taylor fought well that night. But where's Josh Taylor

2214
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: at Luke. He's at that early mid thirties level where

2215
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: could still win a major, big fight. This is still

2216
01:34:05,200 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 1: another big pay that he can get here in this

2217
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: Catall rematch. But if he lost here, it would tell

2218
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 1: us that he's even closer to being past his prime. Right.

2219
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: He was a great fighter when he was on top

2220
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 1: of it. Is one of the best ones split decision

2221
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 1: over twelve rounds in that World Boxing Series tournament for

2222
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: the one hundred and forty pound title, two unbeaten guys

2223
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: coming in. Yes, Josh Taylor was a very good pound

2224
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: for pound ranked and at one point the undisputed champion

2225
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 1: at one forty. But he does have to win this, Luke.

2226
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,759
Speaker 1: He does have to right the wrong of having survived

2227
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,719
Speaker 1: in advance a fight that we all thought he lost.

2228
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: He does lose it. It tells us a lot about the

2229
01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: direction he's going.

2230
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,479
Speaker 2: Paul Pierce dropped an N word on what's that show

2231
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 2: he does with Skip Undisputed?

2232
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 1: Oh on like live TV?

2233
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, live TV? Look at this N word?

2234
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Well, who who recently said that? Oh? Nada said that

2235
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: dude on the Baddest Tour when he dropped the mike

2236
01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: and walk off. At least Paul Pierce.

2237
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got that. He can make it work.

2238
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: There's a there's a new conspiracy theory going along that

2239
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,719
Speaker 1: when he was in the wheelchair for the two thousand

2240
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: and eight finals against the Lakers, that he actually had

2241
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: shit pants and he was just trying to get wheeled out.

2242
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: So people know.

2243
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: So I can't comment to the proof of it, but

2244
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me.

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01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 5: We will.

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01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 1: We have a shot. He's in the network, he's in

2247
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: the family, right all the smoke productions, did you take

2248
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,679
Speaker 1: a dump in your need to get that on camera

2249
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:15,959
Speaker 1: and asking all right next.

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Speaker 2: Uh spot three one six. If AI was able to

2251
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 2: accurately assess things like damage, how would you feel about

2252
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 2: it being used to judge fights? Holy fucking shit, what

2253
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:24,599
Speaker 2: a horrible question.

2254
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: YEA, stop this. AI can't even tell you the fucking truth.

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01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 2: It's oh my god. People think AI is so much

2256
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: more advanced than it actually is. I have a chat

2257
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: GPT subscription and so I use it actually quite regularly

2258
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: to for a variety of different functions.

2259
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:43,599
Speaker 1: It is interesting what it can do.

2260
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:46,559
Speaker 2: And certainly I've seen some of the more the I think,

2261
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 2: I forget who has it open AI or somebody else

2262
01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 2: has the the video capabilities of what's the name of

2263
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,479
Speaker 2: the company. It's like Solar or Solara that can produce

2264
01:35:55,560 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 2: video based on text prompts. AI being able to assess

2265
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:06,360
Speaker 2: damage is not even something within the fucking realm of

2266
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 2: possibility anytime soon?

2267
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 1: Have we not watched science fiction movies like why are

2268
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: we just actively giving away all of the control to

2269
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 1: the computers? Because all we need, by the way, is

2270
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 1: for the power to go out. Nobody can access their

2271
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: ATMs for this armageddon to arrive.

2272
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 2: AI tools are real generative. AI can actually do some

2273
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: wonderful things there. It is valuable. But I just want

2274
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 2: to say this. People think AI is so much more

2275
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 2: advanced than it actually is, and there's a bubble that's

2276
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 2: gonna pop around this shit and I cannot fucking wait

2277
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 2: for it to pop.

2278
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: Well, well then, I mean, did you see the Clone

2279
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: Wars movie? Look, we might end up that one. It's

2280
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 1: start next.

2281
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 2: Uh Darryl underscore gem hypothetical matchup. B See how what

2282
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: a fight between this twenty seven year old MacGregor age

2283
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 2: when he fought out versus a twenty seven year old

2284
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 2: to Pouria. I think it'd be a great matchup stylistically,

2285
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: even though current Ilia seems like a potential generational talent.

2286
01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 2: The answer is to Pooria, he take him down and

2287
01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 2: fuck him up proper.

2288
01:36:58,040 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: That's how okay. We're also talking about the Mountaintop version

2289
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: of Connor who we said Jose, who we said Jose

2290
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 1: will fix the wrong And what did he do? He

2291
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 1: lured Jose into walking into the is the next generation?

2292
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,120
Speaker 1: I get that, but you can't discount the wild card

2293
01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 1: nature of what I wouldn't. I wouldn't that. That's the

2294
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: mystic mac Connor, that's the magic.

2295
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 2: I'm not in any way saying that winning by McGregor

2296
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: is impossible, But you're saying gun in my head, I

2297
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 2: gotta make a pick.

2298
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Kind of slow your role because I love Ilia.

2299
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: He's undefeated, you're almost rue.

2300
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: He just wrapped like. I can't wait for Max to

2301
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 1: beat him now, just to humble you. And I don't

2302
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: want to see you hold on. I don't want to

2303
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:35,640
Speaker 1: see you go through that heartbreak. I don't know if

2304
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: ill will.

2305
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: If it's not going to be heartbreak.

2306
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 1: What are you going to do? Remember that John Jones

2307
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,040
Speaker 1: ran you said about just to either fight or give

2308
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: up the belt? Okay, fight Max or give up the belt?

2309
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 1: All right, it's time.

2310
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 2: Well I agree with that certainly, But my point is this,

2311
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 2: what are you going to do if he actually becomes

2312
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 2: the first guy to knock out Max? And serious questions?

2313
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 1: What are you going to do? Hundred flowers? Okay, I

2314
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 1: mean I will be there, and.

2315
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: I actually don't think he'll. I don't think you will.

2316
01:37:58,280 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't think you But do you remember when and

2317
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't damn you for this, but when you aggressively

2318
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:04,640
Speaker 1: said HEYNI will tune Ryan Garcia like a guitar. Now,

2319
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 1: every time you comment on boxing people are like, ain't

2320
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: that the guy who said rag guy was gonna lose? Guys,

2321
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:10,759
Speaker 1: I've I've had some winners.

2322
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 2: I've had some.

2323
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: We all said that, by the way, we all said that,

2324
01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: I've had some also, Chris Algieri said it. But you

2325
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:19,280
Speaker 1: can't hide this erection through security, Luke. People, it's getting

2326
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: in the way. It's blind by you.

2327
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,720
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to be like he's inaccessible as a personality

2328
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: that I don't like, which I understand he is. I

2329
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:31,320
Speaker 2: don't deny any of those charges. And then they're transmogrifying

2330
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: that into Oh, he must not be that good of

2331
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,599
Speaker 2: a fighter because I can't make a connection with him.

2332
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Guys, I don't have to be transmoglified. Why can it

2333
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:38,959
Speaker 1: be non binary?

2334
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: I really dislike you, but I'm trying to point out something.

2335
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 2: You're letting your personal feelings about his personality dictate how

2336
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: you think a fight's gonna go. Stop doing that, all right?

2337
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 2: Next Nash forty five, Herman nine. Name your dream blood

2338
01:38:56,040 --> 01:39:00,799
Speaker 2: rotation three people from UFC roster. Okay, my dream rotation

2339
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: is not three fighters just being canned.

2340
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,720
Speaker 1: Okay, for the purpose of this exercise, provide three and

2341
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: only three. Don't do the Luke Thomas. I'll give you

2342
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 1: thirty three.

2343
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 2: The question one more time. I want to see the parameters.

2344
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Current reformer I have to commit to.

2345
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, we got ready, Nate Ds. Oh yeah, ny Ds.

2346
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: That's one. Two, I got my, I got mine ready

2347
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:18,599
Speaker 1: to go.

2348
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 2: Okay, um man, that's a tough one. Adas is my

2349
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 2: first one. Okay, you go first, because I actually don't

2350
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 2: know the answer.

2351
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 1: A right, we walternate my number one draft pick, Max Holloway.

2352
01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 1: It's a great one. I mean just I mean it

2353
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: would be the it would be the best hangout experience possible. Right,

2354
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: you know, you know, bruh, it would be it would Bretta,

2355
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 1: it would be great. In fact, we should do it

2356
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 1: on the thirteenth Island. Where is that? That's uh ninth island?

2357
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 4: You mean?

2358
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Okay?

2359
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 2: So you went, I went, Nate, you went, Max. I'll go.

2360
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: Boy, that's a current or former.

2361
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 2: I wish I could say Josh Rosenthal the referee, but

2362
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 2: I can't. Could be male or female?

2363
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: Right, you're only getting three. You can't do the Luke

2364
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: Thomas add on where you add fifteen more names to

2365
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: and so man, I want me to go again?

2366
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:03,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, go again?

2367
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 1: You ready for this draft. Pick Dean Thomas, give me

2368
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: the ass for days. Okay, wow, imagine me Max and

2369
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: Dean getting down. God, your rotation is so much better

2370
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:17,879
Speaker 1: than mine already.

2371
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 2: Can you go three? I can go through your put.

2372
01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:28,520
Speaker 1: The camera on. Is there any doubt you want a champion?

2373
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,759
Speaker 1: The four horsemen right there? Of blunt rotation?

2374
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like it's like, BC, why did you bring

2375
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 2: a condom to a blunt rotation?

2376
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:41,479
Speaker 1: Seriously? Think of the conversations, the laughter, the camaraderie, because

2377
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 1: it's it's all alphas in that group. The American one,

2378
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, the yeah, the South Florida won, the Polish one.

2379
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,560
Speaker 2: I mean we are okay. So one is gonna be

2380
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 2: Diaz and people are gonna climb me. For my second one,

2381
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 2: but you know I'm right about this, two would be

2382
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: Arnold Allen.

2383
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: Over Ilio Taporia. I thought you were gonna go HELI.

2384
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 2: He said, blood rotation.

2385
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't even need weed. Just give me. He's not funny.

2386
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:07,440
Speaker 1: He's funny as ship. Arnold Allen is awesome. He's great,

2387
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: all right.

2388
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 2: So for my third one, I feel like I got

2389
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 2: to pick a woman, otherwise I'm being you don't have sogy.

2390
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,679
Speaker 1: You don't have to, Luke. Okay, even though the future

2391
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: is female, you don't have to. Man, that's a tough one, dude.

2392
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 1: I can't stop listening to like emo female indie folk

2393
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 1: right now, like the Boy Genius supergroup, end of them.

2394
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'd rather get fucked to death by

2395
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 1: an age. I mean, I do drive an super closer.

2396
01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I am to fu building a mystery, all right, So

2397
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: for my third one, help me out here, a friend.

2398
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm phoning a friend. God, you ruin every fun game.

2399
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: Just pick a third name.

2400
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say Corey Santagan. I feel like he'd have

2401
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 4: some cool high thought he'd.

2402
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: Get weird, he get a little weird. Give me an

2403
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: alternate choice, who's your who's your three?

2404
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:51,280
Speaker 2: Then if you go Corey, who's your other two?

2405
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: Fuck? Man, I don't know you guys kidding me? Derek Lewis,

2406
01:41:54,520 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, he's gonna do a lot of

2407
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 1: skits and okay, Connor McGregor in that group, well then

2408
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: it would be a lot more than we.

2409
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:06,799
Speaker 2: TEQUI can I go Nick Diaz? Just both Diaz brothers

2410
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 2: and arm Violin.

2411
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: It's kind of fun, right, That's not bad at all.

2412
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 1: All right, there we go anymore?

2413
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Is that it all right?

2414
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: Tom?

2415
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on, hold on, we I laid down

2416
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 2: the gauntlet. I put a challenge to this man to

2417
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: stop phoning it in quite literally, for have you seen

2418
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 2: this ship?

2419
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: BC?

2420
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: What have you produced?

2421
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 1: It's for yesterday. I scow with the globe and the Internet,

2422
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 1: for the highs and lows, the good, the bad, the

2423
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: ugly and the in between, from the worlds of combat

2424
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 1: sports and beyond. Oh you want to you want to

2425
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: challenge me? Oh you want a war? Okay? Have you

2426
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:44,839
Speaker 1: seen this ship? Luke Thomas?

2427
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 2: My wife wants me to take her to a def

2428
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: Leppard concert? Did I take her?

2429
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: No? Uh see? I respect their music, but I always thought,

2430
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: also is a banger? Okay? Their music is there? There

2431
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: they I saw a cover band on a cruise and

2432
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: I went to see them twice because they were so good.

2433
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 1: But I still think they're a little lame and a

2434
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,600
Speaker 1: little overrated, even though they do have great hits in.

2435
01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 2: Watch It's good, It's good. It's a good track, all right.

2436
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 1: I had even better ones. But apparently the main the

2437
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 1: North Korean censor, no, the main license play Instagram account

2438
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,320
Speaker 1: is apparently private, so a lot of them got scrubbed.

2439
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 1: But here we go. You have c Saint Louis. Everybody

2440
01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: we mentioned. Derek Lewis did a lot of things. I'll

2441
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,960
Speaker 1: only show you one though, when he showed his ass.

2442
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: Luke throws the will there be any warnings? Will there

2443
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,960
Speaker 1: be any mentions of him doing this right here? Oh?

2444
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: He did? I missed that part actually, first time seeing

2445
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: this crack kills look and he went for it. I mean,

2446
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: how do you top this? That's the question. You gotta

2447
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:52,759
Speaker 1: go front full, frontal.

2448
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 2: That's where they go the focus group with the rednecks,

2449
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 2: and then he has the guy with the dick and

2450
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 2: balls waving up and down like yeah, you gotta do

2451
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:00,360
Speaker 2: you gotta do the bor at group.

2452
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 1: We mentioned that Walking Buckley did everything right on Saturday

2453
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:06,679
Speaker 1: except for the call out. Here we go didn't go great.

2454
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: I think I know what Who do you want next? Yes? Yes, yes, yes?

2455
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,200
Speaker 1: Look here, look here, look here? Who do I want next? Huh?

2456
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: He got a fight already booked up. But it's a

2457
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: massive name.

2458
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,760
Speaker 6: It's only one name you should call out if you're

2459
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:22,720
Speaker 6: on this mic, A powerful name. That name is kind

2460
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:27,479
Speaker 6: of agga. I want you you fighting at what's seventy?

2461
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 1: But you ain't fighting a lightweighth? What's way you fight

2462
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 1: a lightweight? Don't boom?

2463
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 6: Now you fighting a lightweight? Minute, Come at me, bro

2464
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 6: come at me. You said you built your weight up.

2465
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: But you bully and.

2466
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 6: Shine O'Malley and Ron Garcia come.

2467
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: In, bully me, dog come he bully me, and I

2468
01:44:44,720 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 1: see what you're really about. I didn't research on the

2469
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: McGregor name. I did research on the McGregor name.

2470
01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:54,560
Speaker 6: And you come from a long, long line and McCall no,

2471
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 6: daddy wasn't a hole. No no, no, no, no granddaddy

2472
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 6: was a hole.

2473
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, great great what those I.

2474
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,479
Speaker 6: Guess it's safe to say, yo, mama, where the whole

2475
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 6: And guess what if you don't respond? And I bet

2476
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 6: the money I ain't even got that you won't the

2477
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 6: whole world. And I'll tell the two. It's my time.

2478
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: And if you want to be the king, you gotta

2479
01:45:17,439 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: bead the king. It's time to take the throne. I

2480
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: wish I had more hands. I give that call out.

2481
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I actually like him a lot, love and I

2482
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 2: love his jovin crowd him though, well, okay, so they

2483
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,519
Speaker 2: booed him but then they cheered him.

2484
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 1: He wont him back a little bit. But shouldn't have,

2485
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 1: Benny and Gary, it should have been right. It would

2486
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: have been a lot more. I think it would have

2487
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: been a lot better. That would have put him on

2488
01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: a higher tax bracket. If Gary responded, if they make

2489
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 1: that fight, I would love that fight. Sure, sure, I'm

2490
01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: with you. Joaquim Buckley did a lot of good though. Sorry,

2491
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: not just the victory. How about the victory lap. In

2492
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,519
Speaker 1: the crowd with the Apex Predator himself, front Row and

2493
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Saint Louis Luke were talking about the legend killer Randy Orton.

2494
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: Did you see this?

2495
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:02,639
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I know who Randy Orton is. Oh wait, wait, wait,

2496
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,800
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, let's test my knowledge because I

2497
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 2: saw this on TikTok.

2498
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: Is this the guy that does the arcade is? Okay,

2499
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:12,280
Speaker 1: the son of cowboy Bob Orton, also a Hall of Fame.

2500
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. Yeah, I definitely don't

2501
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,760
Speaker 1: know who that Okay, third generation is this guy? Is

2502
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: he still wrestled? Yes, he's in his mid forties now,

2503
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: but he's in his like leg Oh yeah he still

2504
01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 1: got it, he still got it. Yeah, he's amazing, Luke,

2505
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: I love him all right, we meant we didn't mention,

2506
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: but uh, you know who had a bad night was

2507
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: Terrence McKinney. Because he's all or nothing, Luke, he will

2508
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 1: give you the highlight. You know he would be. You

2509
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: don't I know about Terence McKinney.

2510
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 2: This is his deal.

2511
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:34,800
Speaker 1: This is what he does.

2512
01:46:35,080 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 2: Either he's gonna blow your fucking brains out or that's

2513
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 2: gonna happen.

2514
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:41,840
Speaker 1: But every time Ribovich from Argentina is I.

2515
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 2: Think it's vicks. I think it's just read it as

2516
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 2: it is.

2517
01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:47,759
Speaker 1: I'll call him Gaucho Luke, because this cowboy is ready.

2518
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 1: Ringo is his nickname, which is brilliant enough. But this guy,

2519
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 1: like Martin Batter BBC translator, this cowboy is ready to party, Luke.

2520
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,639
Speaker 1: He looks good. Can I get excited on an Elia

2521
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:01,559
Speaker 1: level for this guy?

2522
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 2: Not yet, but that was definitely a fucking amazing win.

2523
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,439
Speaker 2: And uh, by the way, do you know what Tuke

2524
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 2: calls you?

2525
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:08,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what uncle Gringo?

2526
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:12,599
Speaker 2: Uncle Goringo? Yes, yes, by name. She's asked me if

2527
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 2: you're my brother. I was like, I was like, no,

2528
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 2: but he is my mom.

2529
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Luke, we mentioned Matteas rebecske Rebeski was the biggest

2530
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: favorite on the card lost to Faeda. Here is the

2531
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: picture in the hospital christ.

2532
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a horror and for forty fifty

2533
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,679
Speaker 2: k so somewhere around there probably damn.

2534
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 1: This was fucking brutal bro this sport, Luke unbelievable. We

2535
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 1: mentioned Rebelli's the Spain at six foot seven, Luke Waldo?

2536
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 1: Was it Waldo Cortez a Costa? Yeah, I mean he's tough,

2537
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 1: but like he really couldn't even do much with with

2538
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: the Spain on the ground, right, I.

2539
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 2: Mean, this was not a great fight. I mean Dana

2540
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,719
Speaker 2: was right to say that this fight was not good.

2541
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 2: It's just it's like y'all booked it.

2542
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, if the Spain won, he was probably fighting

2543
01:47:57,320 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 1: Derek Lewis next. Seriously, like I agree on was he

2544
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: awful on the ground. Here's him attempting to dunk Luke

2545
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: at six to seven?

2546
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 2: How can you be that tall and be like a

2547
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:08,679
Speaker 2: medallist in taekwands barefoot?

2548
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:10,560
Speaker 1: Though he is barefoot, you should.

2549
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:11,439
Speaker 2: Still have more ups than that.

2550
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, right there you go, Luke. Tip

2551
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 1: to tip is a is a thing. It's a brand.

2552
01:48:18,200 --> 01:48:20,720
Speaker 1: It's what men do. What is what a couple men do,

2553
01:48:20,920 --> 01:48:23,080
Speaker 1: including the men from Golden Boy Promotions. Look what do

2554
01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 1: you think of this? Us Car and b Hop? This

2555
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: is a Christmas card right here? This is great.

2556
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: Oh that is dude, someone's got a photoshop our our

2557
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:31,759
Speaker 2: heads on that.

2558
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 1: That is fucking I get to be I get to

2559
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: be the Golden Boy, Luke.

2560
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 2: All right, you can be Oscar with the weird.

2561
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 1: And you get to meet men in the men's roomat

2562
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: him up. All right, let's go to Lomachenko cambosis from Perth. Luke.

2563
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 1: Here's the ringside angle of Lormal walking down and finish.

2564
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 2: Look at look at that. Just that and the towel

2565
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:53,360
Speaker 2: comes in. He went to fucking work on this, dude.

2566
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 2: Oh bop, no, no, no attempt at defense. Didn't need it.

2567
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: All right, I'm not gonna play the clip because it's long.

2568
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: Did you see the ring announcer who's under fire for

2569
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: in the co main event was a women's fight, the

2570
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 1: title fight. He announced the wrong winner and then had

2571
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 1: a back pedal. This is what he did earlier in

2572
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: the card. Luke, what do you think of this?

2573
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 4: He's a gentleman.

2574
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 7: What somebody somewhere makes some estistic first.

2575
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: Look at there is the Apollo hook when you need it.

2576
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the same shtick he does

2577
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,479
Speaker 1: at the Strip club where he's the DJ. Probably Look

2578
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:34,759
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I'll work here in the as well. Uh,

2579
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,599
Speaker 1: that's that. Let's keep it, Pophorn. Nothing you love more

2580
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:41,719
Speaker 1: than bad parenting and vaping. Right, let's put him together

2581
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 1: in this video. Still. Oh that's great, Right, it's so good.

2582
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: That is so perfect white trash. Yeah, it's the best.

2583
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:05,679
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, big week for hockey jerseys, Luke, Okay,

2584
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: let's go to the hockey jersey of the week on

2585
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,719
Speaker 1: this guy you never seen number thirteen here on the ice.

2586
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: Shout out to that guy. Also watched this guy in the.

2587
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: Mouth my favorite Polish hockey player.

2588
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,799
Speaker 1: My balls it watch this guy in the maple leafs jersey.

2589
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: Interrupt this news broadcast. There, baby cock out of your mouth,

2590
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 1: get the baby cock out.

2591
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 5: Your Sorry about everyone that really startled me. It was

2592
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 5: about two percent for membership fees, and there has been

2593
01:50:33,080 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 5: a lot of you know, controversy over the use of

2594
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 5: those membership fees for for good reason.

2595
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: But they only comprise about you he was clearly on

2596
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:45,920
Speaker 1: his way to a job as a corporate attorney. I'm

2597
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 1: sure all right. Also, Luke watched this hockey fan in

2598
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: a jersey. Uh go ham in a live setting here.

2599
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 2: That's what man looking at beat.

2600
01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:59,519
Speaker 1: Oh it's like, mister Ioli. I know you're here for

2601
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 1: the playoff game, but please, that's.

2602
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:05,639
Speaker 2: A little inside baseball.

2603
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm telling you if I had fucked up

2604
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,600
Speaker 1: feet though he's taking shots of the.

2605
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 2: Cheerleader, if I had, if I had feet that I

2606
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 2: could sell to make money, that would be stra.

2607
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,960
Speaker 1: You should sell your feet to research because they're actually

2608
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 1: worse than mine.

2609
01:51:21,880 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true.

2610
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: We should have a foot off on air.

2611
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: We should have a rotten foot off and see who's

2612
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 2: got the worst feet.

2613
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do that. That's hard, stern level business, right, Okay,

2614
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 1: I'm in on that way.

2615
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,800
Speaker 2: We have to consummate the do it like phone.

2616
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:37,400
Speaker 1: You know why we have to do this because you're

2617
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 1: not mad enough to put your beard on the line.

2618
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 2: Again, I don't know why going so badly? Car crash

2619
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: of the week time is this in DC?

2620
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 1: I think so?

2621
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 2: Oh far?

2622
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,760
Speaker 1: All look at that ending. Wow, that has to be

2623
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 1: like Baltimore. I was just gonna say, it's like the

2624
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: corners on the wire, right, this is great.

2625
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not even gonna ask if anybody lived.

2626
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to know. Yeah, he turns out it

2627
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: was a big week for asses to Luke. Okay, look

2628
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:08,719
Speaker 1: at this piece of business.

2629
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 2: Hare do you happen to have this latest phone number?

2630
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 2: I think should have some follow up questions.

2631
01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,040
Speaker 1: Does kids parties? Luke? No doubt about it? Yeah? Two?

2632
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 2: He he just turned five. But we can maybe figure

2633
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 2: something out for age six.

2634
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:22,120
Speaker 1: You think I'm afraid to use a bidet due to

2635
01:52:22,200 --> 01:52:24,439
Speaker 1: outdated homophobous.

2636
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're so homophobic you don't want to

2637
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 2: use a bidet.

2638
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 1: That's true, It's not well, I've never used one because

2639
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm scared of it, Luke. But what do you think

2640
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: of this?

2641
01:52:30,640 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 5: Have you?

2642
01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 1: Are you constipated a lot in your life?

2643
01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: Luke? No, I hat a lot of fire?

2644
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: All right? What do you think about would you endure

2645
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: this to fix? If you were like the most constipated

2646
01:52:37,479 --> 01:52:37,920
Speaker 1: you've ever been?

2647
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's see, let's see.

2648
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 1: So imagine that's your your sphinx.

2649
01:52:40,760 --> 01:52:42,799
Speaker 2: I got rocks in my in my amus.

2650
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: I can't watch what this thing does. Relief. I think

2651
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,679
Speaker 1: that's a bit much. I mean, Richard Gear was looking

2652
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:55,839
Speaker 1: to see if there's like a spot underneath for Gerbils

2653
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 1: to enter.

2654
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 2: But you know, that's a nineteen nineties urban myth, like

2655
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 2: early nineties or early that has just endured because we're

2656
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 2: all stupid.

2657
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:05,720
Speaker 1: Pretty much pretty much, all right, Luke, that's not the

2658
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 1: only salad that got tossed this week? Wow? Who wrote that? Yeah,

2659
01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:10,360
Speaker 1: let's go to this jeep.

2660
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: These fucking let go the jeep, douchebag? All right, Hey dude,

2661
01:53:16,240 --> 01:53:19,160
Speaker 2: these guys, this doesn't happen in Connecticut, and I don't

2662
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:19,960
Speaker 2: know what happens.

2663
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,800
Speaker 1: In New York City. What is it? Saint Spanish? Could

2664
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 1: you go to.

2665
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 2: Zero to sixty nine in a second?

2666
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a good joke, right, come on, it's

2667
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,240
Speaker 1: a good joke. Oh that is all I've even noticed.

2668
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 1: Way one more time, one more time. I was paying

2669
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 1: attention to his fucked up hat that. Oh yeah, take

2670
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,360
Speaker 1: that a fistful of mock dicken balls with maple syrup

2671
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: or jelly. Yeah. Wow? Okay, Hey, Tom, were you going

2672
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: to say something about asplay? Uh? No, these guys who

2673
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: come on the four wheelers.

2674
01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll they'll get like thirty of them and

2675
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 2: then they ride down the streets of DC. It's a

2676
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 2: huge problem.

2677
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,040
Speaker 1: I hate it. Yeah, kids these days, Hey, let's look

2678
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: at your knockouts. So the week this from Probox TV.

2679
01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:00,799
Speaker 1: Here's Terrence Williams giving it to the left home Jonathan

2680
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 1: Ariel Sosa Luke. That's dangerous he's doing. He's doing the

2681
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,720
Speaker 1: tongue of Ilo. I got cross legs too, that's what

2682
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 1: they call it. But look at the cross legs on

2683
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:15,759
Speaker 1: the finish. Too big ko there man, damn boom, double

2684
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: left hook. Let's go to pfl Mina. Who you're saying it?

2685
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 2: That's right middle there is Halton al safe and she

2686
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 2: had fed he one of these before and then there

2687
01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 2: was no defense but it didn't quite land.

2688
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 1: Is this a kickboxing match? No, this was m m

2689
01:54:28,280 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: A and she just kind of.

2690
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 2: They're just they're just covered because I guess of those

2691
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 2: aren't four cloves are they?

2692
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:39,120
Speaker 1: There? Are those are like sparring MMA gloves or bag

2693
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: m gloves? And why are they wearing full oufits here?

2694
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Because of the culture.

2695
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that there is a there's some religious

2696
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 2: concerns about.

2697
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: Your third knockout of the weekend tender is from a

2698
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 1: pinata match.

2699
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:52,680
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, the far still good.

2700
01:54:52,800 --> 01:54:55,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, she can't crack it, oupen Ah, they're moving

2701
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 1: it on her. Look at the kids, the kids to like,

2702
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: fuck your face. I want to, I want to, all right,

2703
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 1: weird week for pro wrestling, Luke is. I think this

2704
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 1: is Mexico. I don't know if this is legal. Bro.

2705
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 1: They just toss me. They just toss. What the fuck

2706
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: is that a kid? I think it's an adult, Luke,

2707
01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 1: But it's that's not good here, just go, just go,

2708
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: all right? Derek Lewis is going to learn this move

2709
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,520
Speaker 1: for his next post fight celebration.

2710
01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, what the fuck? What the fuck are we watching?

2711
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 2: How did this not end with guys fucking each other?

2712
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 1: How did this not end? People say eighties wrestling was

2713
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,640
Speaker 1: the peak. Let's go, let's go to the nineties here.

2714
01:55:42,680 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: What do you think of this sign next to old

2715
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,880
Speaker 1: Vinnie Mack. Vince McMahon is gay and also loves to

2716
01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: bang little chickens. That's a lot. That's a lot going

2717
01:55:51,080 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: on there. Crazy weekend for MMA entrances, Luke, Let's go

2718
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,360
Speaker 1: to cas w ninety four in Poland former boxer Arthur Spilka,

2719
01:55:58,360 --> 01:56:00,400
Speaker 1: who's now transitioned to MMA. Think of this.

2720
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so I know what the punchline is here. I'm

2721
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 2: not going to ruin it. I'm just gonna say this

2722
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 2: walkout banged this one. The walk I'm just saying the walkout,

2723
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 2: the walkout itself ruled.

2724
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Uh. Yeah. He once fought Deontay Wilder in a heavyweight

2725
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:16,800
Speaker 1: title five got viciously knocked out cold well, luke. He

2726
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 1: also got knocked out in fourteen seconds in this actual fight,

2727
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,760
Speaker 1: and we have the footage here of old already on

2728
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 1: the right and.

2729
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:26,680
Speaker 2: He's fighting a forward kickboxer by the way. Yeah here

2730
01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 2: he is all tat it up, probably on a bunch

2731
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 2: of gear.

2732
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: Probably. I mean look at that. Look at the abs

2733
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: right there.

2734
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 2: I watched this dude just just just just force them

2735
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 2: down and then just found them a little early there.

2736
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: But still you get what you get there. You remember

2737
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: Fador's brother Alexander, Yeah, he found a DeLorean. He tried

2738
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,200
Speaker 1: to go back in time here at RCC nineteen. This

2739
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:50,120
Speaker 1: is a Gribacca Hitman special. No, this is this is

2740
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 1: not Alexander, this is uh, this is sch Schlimenko. Did

2741
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 1: I write Amelia Ankle like a LUs Glimmer belator middleweight

2742
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,360
Speaker 1: because he had the famous quote I am beat you. Yes,

2743
01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:03,480
Speaker 1: and he's also a coach, right, I think so? Yes.

2744
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 1: I think he was in the corner of.

2745
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:07,320
Speaker 2: I want folks to know, like when you watch UFC,

2746
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:11,200
Speaker 2: you think that's real MMA, this is real em How

2747
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:11,880
Speaker 2: did I must have.

2748
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: Saw Schlamenco, who I obviously know, and then thought, oh,

2749
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 1: Fador's brother that's great.

2750
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vador's brother has like hepatitis C or something.

2751
01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to the million acos for that. By the way,

2752
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: you see Fador is getting ripped.

2753
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 3: Up right now.

2754
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 2: I don't know who his chemist is, but he's doing

2755
01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 2: a good job.

2756
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 1: He's trying to get a big box match. Do you

2757
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: think he could fight the winner of Jake versus Mike Tyson,

2758
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 1: which sounds like the most ridiculous question I've ever asked,

2759
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:34,640
Speaker 1: but like he wants to fight Tyson if Tyson beats.

2760
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 2: J I don't think anything's impossible. I really don't, all.

2761
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,320
Speaker 1: Right, Do you think that Shlamenco traveled back in time

2762
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:42,480
Speaker 1: and found uh, found old gear back to nineteen eighty

2763
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:44,960
Speaker 1: eight or found that that's Sports Almanac. Yeah, get out

2764
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:48,000
Speaker 1: of the car. This is taking a while, thank you.

2765
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: They can mickfly, thank you. All right, there there he is,

2766
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,840
Speaker 1: there he is. Let's keep the fun going here, Luke.

2767
01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Big week for haircuts in the old barber shop? Right,

2768
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 1: what do you think of this haircut at Pops? Once again?

2769
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: Where is the drop by shooter when you need one?

2770
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's keep it going, Luke. You don't have the guts

2771
01:58:13,800 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 1: to shave. You put up to put up the potential

2772
01:58:16,320 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 1: of shaving your beard one time for the fans, for

2773
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 1: the people. But I think I finally figured out why

2774
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:24,960
Speaker 1: let's go to a guy who's bout about it? Oh

2775
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:28,200
Speaker 1: fuck me? That is exactly what you might look like

2776
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:31,200
Speaker 1: without it. Luke, I think you're making the right choice. Okay,

2777
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,040
Speaker 1: I'm not that ugly, but that is shades of Chuck

2778
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 1: Mindenhall when he took off his helmet in Star Wars.

2779
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Just it looks like someone looks like someone has a

2780
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 2: skin tag on their ball sack.

2781
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gross. That is not good. All right, Luke?

2782
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 1: Did you like the nineties movie Face Off with? Of course?

2783
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 1: John Nicholas Cage just cast de Troy. You can now

2784
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 1: wear that swim trunks at your next event? Would you

2785
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: wear that a little much?

2786
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:52,760
Speaker 2: It's like the movie poster. I don't know if I

2787
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 2: would want to do that, but it's very nineties.

2788
01:58:54,960 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: Very nineties, all right. Speaking of nineties, Chris Farley used

2789
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 1: to fall through tables on his way to a van

2790
01:58:59,520 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: down by the river. Let's watch this drunk man.

2791
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 2: Video. You see I can't believe he's white. That he's

2792
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:19,680
Speaker 2: still out of character.

2793
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 1: Speaking of white folks, Luke, isn't your two favorite things

2794
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:25,839
Speaker 1: in the world powerlifting and gender reveals?

2795
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:28,920
Speaker 2: Powerlifting? Yes, gender reveal? No, me.

2796
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:38,080
Speaker 1: What it's a fine And look at the woman got

2797
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 1: like she got smirk? Who cockied?

2798
01:59:45,120 --> 01:59:47,200
Speaker 2: If you I'm just waiting for one of these to

2799
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 2: be like, oh, gender reveal, Sorry, I had an abortion.

2800
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:53,680
Speaker 1: Wow, that's that's way way too far. I don't know

2801
01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: I had an abortion like six weeks ago. T Shirts

2802
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: of the Week time, Luke, Let's go to Caleb Presley

2803
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,400
Speaker 1: of Barstool Fame represent North of No one has pride

2804
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:03,680
Speaker 1: in their continent like this guy, does, Luke? Get it?

2805
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 2: Come, it's a sexual joke, you get it. That's that's

2806
02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 2: the funny part.

2807
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 1: This is funny.

2808
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:09,000
Speaker 2: I'm not thirteen.

2809
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 1: No, okay, after we just laughed about like people dying

2810
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 1: and stuff.

2811
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm fourteen.

2812
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm not much better, okay, all right, all right, well

2813
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:18,120
Speaker 1: let's keep going. What do you think of this T shirt? Luke?

2814
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 2: He didn't spell masturbation correctly.

2815
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:29,280
Speaker 1: I've joined that playing field, right, the League of Master.

2816
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,160
Speaker 2: But dude, I've been the president of that fucking league

2817
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:31,760
Speaker 2: for a long time.

2818
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: Is it disrespectful these new KO memes that are going

2819
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 1: around where they're.

2820
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Taking great army, very disrespectful?

2821
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:39,000
Speaker 1: All right? I run these with with a little bit

2822
02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 1: of uh, with a little bit of what's the word,

2823
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, apprehension? Okay, all right, let's see it anyway.

2824
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't endorse this kind of content, Luke, But it's around.

2825
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:55,120
Speaker 1: It's around. If you get like viciously chaoed, that's the

2826
02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:57,200
Speaker 1: least of your problems. All right, We've got one more

2827
02:00:57,240 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 1: for you.

2828
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:01,360
Speaker 2: I don't endorse this video the internet. Okay, that was

2829
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 2: the just oh fucking hell, what does it say there

2830
02:01:04,360 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 2: on the thing? Oh it's the person's like name Drove.

2831
02:01:06,760 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's too far. That is just too that is

2832
02:01:09,560 --> 02:01:11,960
Speaker 1: too that's a little much, all right. I don't know

2833
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:13,760
Speaker 1: if this batch was good enough, we got one more

2834
02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 1: for you, a true mic drop moment bay Cock, not

2835
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 1: this year bigger Tito or Teez with the mic drop

2836
02:01:36,080 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 1: at the regional m m A show and he drops

2837
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,880
Speaker 1: it on his own dome. Luke, that's so good, dude.

2838
02:01:42,360 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 2: You can't even write ship like that.

2839
02:01:46,320 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: You can't even by.

2840
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 2: The way, does he play that one more time? Does

2841
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:51,280
Speaker 2: he say better, bigger and better?

2842
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:05,640
Speaker 1: Back this year bigger, better, bigger and better. That is

2843
02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 1: the ship that would be the motto of MK better,

2844
02:02:08,360 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 1: bigger and better. Was the Was it the ship this week?

2845
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 1: Better or bigger?

2846
02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:14,440
Speaker 2: It was better and bigger, but also better?

2847
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:16,720
Speaker 1: Okay, too bad my main license plates.

2848
02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:18,800
Speaker 2: The one thing that was missing was you didn't have

2849
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 2: enough like fat chicks like taking a shovel to the face,

2850
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 2: or old people falling off.

2851
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:26,200
Speaker 1: We did see a pinata and a small person that

2852
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:28,960
Speaker 1: was going head first. I'll say that I'll get that

2853
02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:31,920
Speaker 1: one an a thank you very much, certainly better than

2854
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: the last week. I found this flag on the.

2855
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:36,800
Speaker 2: What does it saying?

2856
02:02:37,760 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: Line them up, Light them up all. That's why I sayed,

2857
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:44,160
Speaker 1: all of our enemies and detractors look, okay them up.

2858
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 1: Let's ride everyone.

2859
02:02:45,560 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 2: M K is the code for any kind of betting

2860
02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,280
Speaker 2: you want to do at Draft Kings, any kind of

2861
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:51,120
Speaker 2: action you want to get in.

2862
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 1: Usk versus Fury this Saturday for all the marbles, all

2863
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:59,400
Speaker 1: for heavyweight championship belts in Saudi Arabia. And how about

2864
02:02:59,440 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 1: you download the Draft Kings sports book app today new

2865
02:03:03,000 --> 02:03:08,280
Speaker 1: customers put five dollars down using our code MK, they

2866
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:11,960
Speaker 1: instantly receive one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets instantly,

2867
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:12,360
Speaker 1: just like that.

2868
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 2: You can see it right there. Use the code m

2869
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:16,760
Speaker 2: K on the Draft Kings sports Book. You can see

2870
02:03:16,840 --> 02:03:19,480
Speaker 2: right there on the graphic everything you need to do that.

2871
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,840
Speaker 2: And of course you see the odds on this one

2872
02:03:21,960 --> 02:03:24,760
Speaker 2: one twenty for Fury. I think it's plus one ten

2873
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 2: for I mean great, this is.

2874
02:03:27,240 --> 02:03:29,880
Speaker 1: Great, unbelievable. So you have see this weekend is who's

2875
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 1: in the main of it Barbosa and I forget the

2876
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:34,560
Speaker 1: Rone Murphy, the n Murphy. Maybe we also have Friday

2877
02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:37,360
Speaker 1: night Bellatur Paris Patchee.

2878
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,000
Speaker 2: Mix, so that would be Friday afternoon.

2879
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. Okay, anything else I'm missing this weekend BKF sizzle.

2880
02:03:43,280 --> 02:03:45,760
Speaker 2: There might be some, but the big one UK Fury.

2881
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Draft Kings. By the way, the crown is yours,

2882
02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:50,440
Speaker 1: and I am referring to the restroom that you're going

2883
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 1: to be using soon.

2884
02:03:51,480 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna go to the Amtrak one. Okay, that

2885
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 2: one's nice.

2886
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: I'm team Amtrak now. Used to be all about the

2887
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,000
Speaker 1: Metro North one. I'm team Mantrack.

2888
02:03:58,280 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 2: Is that because I get you into the place, because

2889
02:04:00,520 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 2: you get me what I tell them, what I did

2890
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 2: for you.

2891
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:03,880
Speaker 1: So Luke's such a nice guy that he gets me

2892
02:04:03,960 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 1: into his exclusive like Admirals Club lounge over there at

2893
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 1: the Amtrak Penn station and free food and like leather

2894
02:04:11,560 --> 02:04:12,760
Speaker 1: and couches.

2895
02:04:12,400 --> 02:04:14,080
Speaker 2: And do you know how many points I have? Like

2896
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:16,800
Speaker 2: if you have like ten thousand points, you can buy

2897
02:04:16,840 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 2: you can use all your points to get like round

2898
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 2: trip tickets from DC to New York. Yeah, I have

2899
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 2: sixty seven thousand, and I've spent I have zero right now. Yeah,

2900
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 2: I've spent about thirty of them. So I have I

2901
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 2: ride the train unless.

2902
02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:30,280
Speaker 1: You know you have to use points to sign me

2903
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:31,200
Speaker 1: in for no, no, no, no, no no.

2904
02:04:31,520 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is unless you know someone who actually

2905
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:36,080
Speaker 2: works on a train, I ride the train more than

2906
02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:36,760
Speaker 2: anybody you know.

2907
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 1: And so did your marine buddies, those filthy, those.

2908
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 2: Filthy, and they were like, look do you want they

2909
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 2: call me Thomas, Thomas, you want to get in on

2910
02:04:46,320 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 2: this train.

2911
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'm good, dude, I'm not. I'm not.

2912
02:04:49,360 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. We should do it like a thirty for thirty.

2913
02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 1: Where are they now from that night? Oh my lord,

2914
02:04:53,840 --> 02:04:57,720
Speaker 1: where are these sex offenders now looking together? Well, it

2915
02:04:57,800 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 1: all seemed consensual for one. I think there's a three

2916
02:05:00,120 --> 02:05:01,920
Speaker 1: line from that train to jan six.

2917
02:05:02,720 --> 02:05:05,480
Speaker 2: No, from that train to meth addiction to living under

2918
02:05:05,560 --> 02:05:07,520
Speaker 2: a rock and then probably getting in it. Remember that

2919
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:09,320
Speaker 2: car crash where the building fell on top. Yes, I

2920
02:05:09,400 --> 02:05:10,959
Speaker 2: thought that was two of the Marines on Soltimore.

2921
02:05:11,360 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 1: So look, we're on the path to victory. So one

2922
02:05:13,400 --> 02:05:15,400
Speaker 1: day we will have a Friday show live local and

2923
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:16,160
Speaker 1: lay people.

2924
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 2: Ask us ones are going to be back, and we

2925
02:05:17,120 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 2: don't quite know the answer to that. But we're cracking

2926
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 2: the whip on it.

2927
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:19,960
Speaker 3: We are.

2928
02:05:20,040 --> 02:05:21,880
Speaker 1: We are cracking the eggs where we're cooking it up, Well,

2929
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:23,640
Speaker 1: let us cook. Okay, we got an omelet coming yet

2930
02:05:23,680 --> 02:05:26,200
Speaker 1: the way we cook, that's it. Shout out to our

2931
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:28,520
Speaker 1: great team, long Island Luke behind the class Right, Well, look,

2932
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: why don't you plug your podcast that no one listens to? Oh?

2933
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 4: Everyone should go check it out. A main card minute

2934
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 4: thank you.

2935
02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 1: On YouTube the main card. So just to kind of

2936
02:05:35,760 --> 02:05:38,440
Speaker 1: embellish this selling a little bit more, the truth is

2937
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,400
Speaker 1: you regularly have guests on from the MK universe, true

2938
02:05:42,480 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 1: or false?

2939
02:05:43,120 --> 02:05:46,560
Speaker 4: True, Minietsch Gaff, Jake von Amsterdam and Tristan all always on.

2940
02:05:46,720 --> 02:05:48,480
Speaker 1: Tristan, how have you had him on? And he hasn't

2941
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 1: slit your throat with a box.

2942
02:05:50,720 --> 02:05:52,720
Speaker 4: He comes close, but he mostly just sits there and

2943
02:05:52,760 --> 02:05:53,960
Speaker 4: gets drunk and keeps quiet.

2944
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 1: Do you think he'd be willing to do a tattoo

2945
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,480
Speaker 1: reveal on your on your show to bring out all

2946
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 1: the rabbit animals?

2947
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,160
Speaker 4: One hundred percent? We could also have jay aarron to.

2948
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 1: People have requested that japocket too.

2949
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:03,080
Speaker 2: Probably let's end this.

2950
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: That is BC. I'm lt.

2951
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,440
Speaker 2: This has been MK. Thank you guys so much for watching,

2952
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 2: but really appreciate it.

2953
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 1: That's it. We're done.

2954
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 2: Follow like, subscribe all the stuff on social the whole

2955
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,040
Speaker 2: nine yards and uh you can use the promo code

2956
02:06:17,080 --> 02:06:18,520
Speaker 2: live Tenet Morning Combat Dot Store.

2957
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:20,760
Speaker 1: Shout out to RJ by the way, right, yeah, Hey.

2958
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let everyone know how the cannibal corpse thing

2959
02:06:23,200 --> 02:06:24,520
Speaker 2: goes tomorrow.

2960
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:26,320
Speaker 1: Why do we not have an MK shirt that says

2961
02:06:26,360 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 1: feeling these margaritas? Why do we not have that. I

2962
02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:32,280
Speaker 1: hope that r j Duncle Gang Funk is listening. He's

2963
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:32,760
Speaker 1: a new father.

2964
02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:36,000
Speaker 2: They're yawning in the control room. We gotta be done,

2965
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 2: all right for everyone involved. Thank you guys so much

2966
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 2: for back next week.

2967
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 1: We love you. Until then, all your gains be loyal.