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Speaker 1: Longtime Cowboys reported joined by the Talina Rocket himself. He
Speaker 1: is Buried Church, Danny the Crag with another day off Church.
Speaker 1: How we doing, man, I'm doing great, man. And if
Speaker 1: you can see there, I was repping Danny Team Danny
Speaker 1: Man and Gain Survivor. I had the shirt up put
Speaker 1: the people out there man season forty one. Um, you
Speaker 1: know hey, I was shouting out to my boy man.
Speaker 1: He had a heck of a game. Heck of a game.
Speaker 1: I'm extremely impressed to how he played that game, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll dive into it a lot tomorrow when
Speaker 1: he returns. But man, it was a heck of a game.
Speaker 1: I'm proud of my boy out there. I've never watched
Speaker 1: the show's survivor. So the first forty seasons never checked out.
Speaker 1: I was there for you, and I could see why
Speaker 1: people enjoy it. Did become addictive to watch you were
Speaker 1: you did find yourself rooting for personalities. And I did
Speaker 1: not think Danny was going home. I thought it would
Speaker 1: be Deshaun who got got but thus that is the game.
Speaker 1: But Danny, Danny left, and he left in a good position. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think anybody had any hatred or
Speaker 1: malice toward Danny. I played a good game, man, so
Speaker 1: I will dive into it tomorrow. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: good on him to live out one of his reality dreams.
Speaker 1: I mean to be able to be on that show
Speaker 1: and go competing and go as far as he did
Speaker 1: and last as long as he did and represent himself. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm happy for him while they love man, that's good
Speaker 1: stuff without a doubt. And real quick, real quick. One.
Speaker 1: They made a mistake not getting rid of a card
Speaker 1: last week. That man's gonna mess around and win the
Speaker 1: whole thing because can't nobody beat him in the immunity.
Speaker 1: So that's one. What the happento this tomorrow. But two, man,
Speaker 1: my boy hit him with the gold cowboys in a wink.
Speaker 1: I said, all, man, what don't be throwing it out here? Man?
Speaker 1: What's going on? But I loved it. You gotta love it.
Speaker 1: You gotta love it because you know he's putting all,
Speaker 1: he's putting all for the boys out there, man. And
Speaker 1: just the way they edited, how they set it up, man,
Speaker 1: it was a It was a good salute, like let's
Speaker 1: see y'all later, man. So I'm gonna definitely give him
Speaker 1: a little bit for that tomorrow. But like you said, man,
Speaker 1: the guy played the heck of a game. Couldn't be
Speaker 1: more proud of the boy. I tweeted it out there, man,
Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it because somebody on Twitter's like,
Speaker 1: this is the worst part. This is the worst part
Speaker 1: I've ever survived. I was like, I loved it. Some
Speaker 1: cowboy hater. It was some cowboy hater up there. And
Speaker 1: somebody else was like, well, I prefer to think of
Speaker 1: him as a Chicago bear, and like, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. But good stuff there. Hey, how about
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy today making a little news on social media
Speaker 1: and people running up the headlines of what he said. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna let you hear what Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: said about going up to Washington this week for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and whether or not in your mind this is
Speaker 1: bullets and boardmantier Chris being played the cut from Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's from today's press conference with the with the Dallas
Speaker 1: Fort Worth Media. We know what people think of us.
Speaker 1: We love that. We're comfortable who we are where we are.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited about what's in front of us because
Speaker 1: you know, we you know, we're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm confident in that and just you know, the prep
Speaker 1: that's going into it. But more importantly, we're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: we want to improve too along the way. So I
Speaker 1: think that's all part about what the challenge of December
Speaker 1: of football give you. All Right, I couldn't really hear
Speaker 1: it very well, Chris, but Mike McCarthy and I just
Speaker 1: wrote down some of what he says. We're going to
Speaker 1: Washington to win. We are going to win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm confident in that. That's the major portion of what
Speaker 1: people are talking about on social media. And when Mike
Speaker 1: says it and you hear it, it's not Jimmy Johnson's
Speaker 1: proclamation we will win the ball game. Put it in
Speaker 1: three inch bold letters, like he said Randy Galloway back
Speaker 1: in the nineties. But here's Mike McCarthy saying, we're going
Speaker 1: here to win, and we're gonna win this football game.
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna go do. I had no issues
Speaker 1: with it. Church. You played this football, You played the
Speaker 1: game of football. You're safety in the league for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Jaguars. Tell me how you took it.
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm a Cowboys player, like if I'm
Speaker 1: one of those guys in a locker room going to practice,
Speaker 1: teaching every day, put my heart on a line for
Speaker 1: the team, I'm loving it. I'm loving it like if
Speaker 1: I'm a Boys player, I'm loving it because you love
Speaker 1: to hear. As a player, you love to hear your
Speaker 1: coach have that much confidence in you guys. When he
Speaker 1: goes out there and says, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go win this game. We're going up there to play
Speaker 1: the game, and we're gonna win the game, it means
Speaker 1: that he has confidence in all three levels of the game.
Speaker 1: He feels like his team is better, whether it's talent wise,
Speaker 1: coaching wise, execution wise, whatever the case may be, he
Speaker 1: feels confident enough to say, you know what, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go up there and win the game, because it can backfire.
Speaker 1: It can backfire immensely if they go up there and
Speaker 1: get beat down or even lose a close game, it
Speaker 1: could backfire a lot. So if I'm a player for
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, I'm like, all right, I gotta make
Speaker 1: my coach right now. That means I gotta lick in,
Speaker 1: I gotta go up there, and I gotta put my
Speaker 1: a game on because if we lose, not only does
Speaker 1: it embarrass us as players, but it embarrasses our coach
Speaker 1: as well. And he put all this confidence in into
Speaker 1: us thinking we can go up there and get the
Speaker 1: dub and basically seal up the division. So if I'm
Speaker 1: a Cowboys player, I love it. If I'm Washington, if
Speaker 1: I'm a part of that football team over there, I'm
Speaker 1: using this as bill board material. This to me is
Speaker 1: like one of them Nick Sirianni beat Dallas Cowboys shirts
Speaker 1: he had on earlier in the season. I'm using that
Speaker 1: as billboard material. I'm saying, look, this coach is coming
Speaker 1: up here into your house thinking that y'all don't even
Speaker 1: stand a chance. Today is what. Today's Thursday. So the
Speaker 1: game is about three four days away, and he's already
Speaker 1: saying that they gonna whoop on y'all, no matter what
Speaker 1: y'all got going on, no matter how many wins y'all
Speaker 1: una had these past couple of games, he don't care
Speaker 1: nothing about that. He don't care nothing about the momentum
Speaker 1: y'all got, or how good y'all playing as a team.
Speaker 1: He says, no matter what y'all do, come Sunday, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna take this l So if I'm running with fair,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm preaching to these players. I'm saying, look, man,
Speaker 1: these cowboys, they say they running division. They've been winning
Speaker 1: games all season. Now you got the coach up there
Speaker 1: talking about they're gonna go up there and win the game.
Speaker 1: They here. If I'm wrong with the I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: look you were the five they had to win street
Speaker 1: going on, Like they didn't just lose two or five
Speaker 1: games or two out of well, they won two out
Speaker 1: of seven games. He's past couple, they ask a couple
Speaker 1: of games. So if I'm wrong, I'm using it as
Speaker 1: billboard material. But if I'm a Cowboys player. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1: I just gotta know my coach, Hey, I gotta have
Speaker 1: you back because if you lose, it's gonna make us
Speaker 1: both look foolish. All right, So is this a situation
Speaker 1: in your mind where Mike McCarthy puts added pressure on
Speaker 1: the players and saying, hey, look, we're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm putting it on you to win this game. I
Speaker 1: know we're gonna win this game. You're gonna have the
Speaker 1: game player to go out here, to execute, to go
Speaker 1: win in Washington. I think part of that's what Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy is doing here, and I like that. Put it
Speaker 1: on these games, go win this game. I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that. I like it too. Like I said, if
Speaker 1: I was a Boys player, I like it. But there
Speaker 1: definitely is added pressure. There's definitely added pressure when you
Speaker 1: go into a rival situation. You go to a divisional opponent,
Speaker 1: you know they know you like the back of their hands.
Speaker 1: They play you twice a year home and away, like
Speaker 1: just like you play them twice a year home and away.
Speaker 1: So they know all your tendencies, your strengths, your weaknesses.
Speaker 1: These are teams that know you better than any other team.
Speaker 1: In the National Football League. So to go up there
Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon and say we're gonna win come Sunday already.
Speaker 1: I mean that puts a lot of pressure on that
Speaker 1: staff to make sure they got a game plan that
Speaker 1: they know they can go out there and succeed in.
Speaker 1: And then it puts a lot of pressure on your
Speaker 1: players going out there knowing they got to dominate this team.
Speaker 1: They gotta go out there with their a game, knowing
Speaker 1: that their coach put that much faith in them they
Speaker 1: put he put it out there in the media already,
Speaker 1: So to me, you gotta come with it because if
Speaker 1: you don't, it could backfire immensely, And it's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on you to get this dub now that
Speaker 1: your coach opened his mouth and said what he had
Speaker 1: to say. But circle back to the beginning. If I'm
Speaker 1: a player, I love it because I know my coach
Speaker 1: has confidence in me and he's not shying away from anythings.
Speaker 1: So I love it going up there. And I still
Speaker 1: got the Cowboys winning regardless, So I don't see it's
Speaker 1: a bad play by coach McCarthy at all. Let's really
Speaker 1: concentrate zero in on the next three football games for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, because in a whole lot of ways, these
Speaker 1: next three games can you can pretty much wrap up
Speaker 1: this division because they've got a two game lead. You're
Speaker 1: at Washington and then after that you come home to
Speaker 1: Jerry World to face the Giants, and then the day
Speaker 1: after Christmas on NBC it is it's Washington and Dallas
Speaker 1: at one more time. So you're gonna face him two
Speaker 1: out of the next three weeks. Man, you get you
Speaker 1: get game, you get this game, you get the Giants game.
Speaker 1: You're really give the driver's seat to go ahead and
Speaker 1: wrap this thing up. So I like the fact that
Speaker 1: he put pressure on him to say, look, let's just
Speaker 1: go out of the gate and knock these dudes out
Speaker 1: of the box. Okay, let's just end this thing. Let's
Speaker 1: end this thing. Go ahead, let him know where the
Speaker 1: Kings of the East go. Handle your business up there.
Speaker 1: Vanda Scott up as a five point favorite. So I
Speaker 1: like that part of it. And I'm gonna flip this
Speaker 1: other side of this, Barry, you and Danny have been
Speaker 1: talking about the run game and one Kelly Moore to
Speaker 1: Colemore runs there is an issue with the run game.
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard has he sprained his foot on that fifty
Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown against New Arden. So he's hoping to
Speaker 1: play on Sunday. I was working out with Brown a
Speaker 1: little bit before practice. It was open to the media session,
Speaker 1: and then Zeke Elliott was on the bike and for
Speaker 1: a bit before he went over there, and Zeke says,
Speaker 1: he's going to play in the football game. But you
Speaker 1: have two running backs now who have injuries that they're
Speaker 1: dealing with a knee injury for Zeke, sprained foot issu
Speaker 1: for Tony poll thought that that that makes me nervous
Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna lie to you newly that that
Speaker 1: scares me just a little bit because we know Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard as a back. He's a one cut, electric juice
Speaker 1: like he just brings that that speed, that that just
Speaker 1: violence to the game. Where he's taking off, he's either
Speaker 1: if he's not hitting the hole, he's bouncing outside and
Speaker 1: taking off. So I'm not quite sure how bad that
Speaker 1: foot is sprained, but it's got to be able to
Speaker 1: affect his game. It has to because he's a speedback.
Speaker 1: He relies on his speed. It's not like he's you know,
Speaker 1: the bus or Zeke out here where it's just three
Speaker 1: yards in a cloud of dust and he's just grinding
Speaker 1: and grinding, and tell maybe he pops one. This is
Speaker 1: a guy who is a home run threat when he
Speaker 1: touches the ball at any given moment, and that's the
Speaker 1: strength of his game. That's what makes defensive coordinators worry
Speaker 1: about when he touches the ball. And if that's if
Speaker 1: that in any way is compromised by his foot injury,
Speaker 1: I think it slows him down and I think it
Speaker 1: slows his effectiveness. Now to me, if Zeke was healthy
Speaker 1: at black I oh, well, you know all, you know,
Speaker 1: take the week off. You know, we get Clement to
Speaker 1: come in here and do a couple of third down
Speaker 1: package situations. But then Zeke is injured as well. And
Speaker 1: we all saw a last we get gets the Saints.
Speaker 1: How bad he looks. I mean, he looked like he
Speaker 1: was limping out there. He was dragging a go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead. No, it was, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was troubling to watch. Man. This is just not
Speaker 1: the player that you've come to expect when you're watching
Speaker 1: Cowboys football. Last ye Zekie, it just know what, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the twenty one we're used to. You're not It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the twenty one you're used to it. He
Speaker 1: wasn't grinding people down. And for the first time, I
Speaker 1: think I mentioned this earlier the week, but it was
Speaker 1: the first time we saw him just run out of bounce.
Speaker 1: There was no like, all right, gonna put my foot
Speaker 1: in the ground, I'm gonna put some punishment on these
Speaker 1: people before I go down. It was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm tapping out. I'm going straight out of bound.
Speaker 1: So and to me, you you know already how I
Speaker 1: feel about this run game, you know. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's when we're at our best, when we're at our peak,
Speaker 1: when we got a balance attack, running pass, and if
Speaker 1: we're out there stagnant in the run game and we
Speaker 1: got to rely strictly on the pass, or we're one dimensional.
Speaker 1: I think that's why we've been struggling a little bit
Speaker 1: offensively these past couple games. And I don't want Washington
Speaker 1: to go ahead and take advantage of it, because even
Speaker 1: though they don't have chase you, even though they don't
Speaker 1: have a sweat who's in the COVID protocol, this team
Speaker 1: can still get after the passer. I mean, they're loaded
Speaker 1: with first round draft picks on the defensive line, and
Speaker 1: if you're telling them that they are run game is compromised.
Speaker 1: We're not able to move the football running the ball.
Speaker 1: Then they get depend their ears back and get after
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. And we've seen this offensive line shows some
Speaker 1: chicks in its armor. So it makes me a little
Speaker 1: bit nervous. I still have the Cowboys getting this victory
Speaker 1: because they do have an awesome trio of receivers on
Speaker 1: the outside, but overall not having a great run game
Speaker 1: with two injured backs, that makes me a little bit nervous.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that the receivers need to run the
Speaker 1: round to be where they game the way to own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with Jerry on that. Boy. They need to get
Speaker 1: their route run and get some separation and get that
Speaker 1: Prescott an opportunity to throw the ball in there. Child
Speaker 1: have been in the receiving room after that stuff came
Speaker 1: out later on that Like what you say, NEWI as
Speaker 1: a coach, Like if you're there the coach, I'm forget
Speaker 1: his name right now, but Adam Jones, Yeah, Adam Jones,
Speaker 1: and you're in the meeting room. You know these receivers
Speaker 1: have heard this. You know, they've heard what's going on
Speaker 1: around the Metroplex Jerry Jones show, and he's talking about
Speaker 1: the receivers. What do you tell them? Like, what do
Speaker 1: you tell the receivers at that point? Um, how many
Speaker 1: of you all free agent? If you're a free agent,
Speaker 1: raise your hand, and there's a whole lot of room
Speaker 1: that a whole lot of hands going up that room.
Speaker 1: If you got No. One guarantees under contract, raise your
Speaker 1: hand and Martin Cooper hand go up here. So there's
Speaker 1: some guys in that room. You may not have liked
Speaker 1: what the owner said, but he's writing the checks and
Speaker 1: he's gonna be turning the faith of some of these
Speaker 1: guys because number four is not going anywhere. Okay, we know.
Speaker 1: So when he spoke, it's it's truly one of those
Speaker 1: where you have to listen to what Jerry Jones says,
Speaker 1: and the fact that he doesn't say it very often
Speaker 1: I think means something. I literally would just be okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's saying something, and you have every opportunity now to
Speaker 1: go out here and show what you can do. If
Speaker 1: you don't like it, you've got five football games to
Speaker 1: go out here and change the narrative and show Jerry
Speaker 1: do you think he's wrong. That's the beauty of this man.
Speaker 1: That is an absolute beauty of Sunday one pm in
Speaker 1: Landover Maryland at FedExField. These guys can change whatever narrative
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has thought about them. I agree, And and Nui,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna ask you this question. Do you think
Speaker 1: it's it's I mean, I know it's not all on
Speaker 1: the receivers, but do you think the majority of it
Speaker 1: is on the receivers? I mean, we've seen cde Lamb
Speaker 1: out here. He's been playing fantastic Amari Cooper when he's healthy,
Speaker 1: he's been actually been able to be a little bit
Speaker 1: productive there. And then we saw Gallant come back from
Speaker 1: his injury and do a couple of things here and there.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's the majority of the receivers or
Speaker 1: would you give it a fifty fifty balance with Dak
Speaker 1: right there? Man, I just think so many this these
Speaker 1: past few games. You know, you're talking about the loss
Speaker 1: to go back to Denver. Okay, those basically the losses
Speaker 1: to these AFC West teams. You're starting looking at those,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of perfect storm there of
Speaker 1: you know, Denver wanting it more, playing better, Kansas City
Speaker 1: understanding what to do, having the win to go their way,
Speaker 1: where Dad could hit gallop on that first on that
Speaker 1: first shot down the field, which you should have gone
Speaker 1: a long way. I mean this in the injuries and
Speaker 1: then the covids and coaches being missed, there's just a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff over these past four or five football
Speaker 1: games and just look, man just wasn't good. So you
Speaker 1: can point to the receivers and say, Okay, you're a
Speaker 1: part of this issue. But you can point to the
Speaker 1: offensive line and say you're a part of this issue.
Speaker 1: You can point to Dak Prescott and say you're a
Speaker 1: part of this issue. Is all along the way during
Speaker 1: these these tough games, and even a win against New
Speaker 1: Orleans which wasn't one hundred percent Chris, you can look
Speaker 1: at guys and just say, I don't know about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. So I just think it's
Speaker 1: it's a bit much to just put it all on
Speaker 1: the receivers. But I go back into the question that
Speaker 1: was asked by Sean and RJ on one to fight
Speaker 1: through the fan too, Jerry, when they were asking if
Speaker 1: something's wrong with Dak because Dak Prescott's last three football Again,
Speaker 1: she said, since Dak's come back from the cap injury,
Speaker 1: he's not looked as good as he did before him.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, and so and Jerry trying to answer
Speaker 1: the question, he basically put it on his receivers and
Speaker 1: didn't put it on the quarterback. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's necessarily one hundred percent fair because we all
Speaker 1: have eyes and we can all see Dak Prescott has
Speaker 1: not been the same quarterback since he came up the
Speaker 1: cap injury. And there's nothing wrong. There's you know, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with saying it. There's nothing wrong with saying,
Speaker 1: you know what man's on that left that he had repaired,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're still at times trying to figure
Speaker 1: out where where is he at now. Dak is gonna
Speaker 1: be like you and a lot of these other guys
Speaker 1: who've played for the Cowboys. You're not trying to tell
Speaker 1: everybody what's going on. You're gonna tell everybody you're all good,
Speaker 1: you're ready to go. But just because you tell it,
Speaker 1: I've learned in these presc cofference it's just because you
Speaker 1: say it doesn't make it so. I agree with you
Speaker 1: on that one. I mean, he said he was fine.
Speaker 1: That that doesn't make it. So that's just what he said.
Speaker 1: And in the premise of well, you're trying to take
Speaker 1: guy sit that word. Uh, this is a gladiator sport.
Speaker 1: Gladiators don't come out here. And before I fight, let
Speaker 1: me listen down these ten injuries I got right here.
Speaker 1: Just let you know. Okay, so something happens, you can
Speaker 1: point to one of these ten things in the wrong
Speaker 1: with me, and I mean, that's just that's just not
Speaker 1: what guys do. That's not what guys do. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: many times fans believe exactly what they here. Oh Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper said he's fine, he's good to go. He's not
Speaker 1: really good to go. And you don't know that he's
Speaker 1: taking a shot over here and you don't know what
Speaker 1: the effects are from COVID and and guys aren't gonna
Speaker 1: come out. Actually, hey man, I've been weeezing and coughing
Speaker 1: all week long. Case smell whole much. I went out here, man,
Speaker 1: three plays out with gas. You know you're just having
Speaker 1: to see that, yeah, or or you're not gonna see
Speaker 1: many guys do it. Luca dot admitted this week when
Speaker 1: he said, yeah, shit, you know you gotta be beat
Speaker 1: at oh Luca, that can of camp away over two
Speaker 1: sixties so and you can see it, so you can
Speaker 1: see it all in his face and neck. I'm like, looka,
Speaker 1: what are you doing baby? What you're doing? Right? But
Speaker 1: for him to even just come on out and just
Speaker 1: admit it, you know, like, okay, that's that's rare. That's right.
Speaker 1: So James Harden didn't do it, No he did not, No,
Speaker 1: he didn't. Hey man, I'll try to get out of town.
Speaker 1: So I decided to go ahead, making a Chrispy Kreen
Speaker 1: type two weeks for itself. But that's what he did.
Speaker 1: That's what he Yeah, exactly what he did. So so
Speaker 1: you're not going to see Dan Prescott come out here
Speaker 1: and saying, hey man, you know what this has hurt
Speaker 1: me now, that is it's preventing me for that. You're
Speaker 1: just not gonna get that. For guys, they're gonna pretty
Speaker 1: much tell you they're ready to go. But just because
Speaker 1: they said it doesn't make it so. And I can't
Speaker 1: stress this enough, and Bear you can tell people more
Speaker 1: about this. It's December. Nobody's who It's December. Your body's
Speaker 1: aching you know, good thing for the Cowboys, they play
Speaker 1: in the Dome and all that good stuff. But I
Speaker 1: mean December, that's when you start to get out of
Speaker 1: the bed and you're like, man, I gotta do this again.
Speaker 1: And it might not even be down hoard of a practice.
Speaker 1: You might be just and helmets, but your body's just,
Speaker 1: especially when you get older and older in the league
Speaker 1: when December comes around. That's why they say, if you
Speaker 1: can get a win in December, it doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: it's good, ugly, bad, whatever the case may be. If
Speaker 1: you can get a win in December, it's always good
Speaker 1: because your body starts to ache, your body starts to
Speaker 1: fail you. And then the NFL decided to add another
Speaker 1: game onto the regular season. So these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: be aching here for the next couple of weeks, especially
Speaker 1: when the playoff run comes around. And I just think
Speaker 1: it comes down to who's the healthiest team. And right now,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys they got some reinforcements coming along and hopefully
Speaker 1: this offense can shape back into gear these next five
Speaker 1: weeks before this run starts. All right, let's take a break.
Speaker 1: I want to get into Trayvon Digs versus Terry mcculon
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Speaker 1: got a two game league. Washington needs this football game.
Speaker 1: It is at home. This is your first meeting in
Speaker 1: the next three weeks against the Cowboys. So it's Washington
Speaker 1: in Dallas this week. Up there next week it is
Speaker 1: Giants Cowboys, followed by Washington coming to Jerry World December
Speaker 1: twenty six for NBC's Sunday Night football. The Cowboys can
Speaker 1: basically go ahead right now, in my opinion, and put
Speaker 1: this thing to bed. If they can win against Washington
Speaker 1: football team this Sunday and then follow that up with
Speaker 1: a win over the Giants. This is the Cowboys opportunity
Speaker 1: to go ahead and makes him hey and in my opinion,
Speaker 1: knock him out the box. Now, if you're Washington, what
Speaker 1: you're gonna try and do obviously run the football, but
Speaker 1: when you throw it, you want to find number seventeen.
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. Scary Terry's what they call him up there.
Speaker 1: Trayvon Digs right now, nine interceptions. He is on his
Speaker 1: way to a All Pro season. No camera chests said,
Speaker 1: when we're time all Pro season and Dan quit I'm
Speaker 1: imagine dan Quinnson says, okay, travel with them all day long,
Speaker 1: and Taylor Heidek wants to take a try test. Diggs,
Speaker 1: feel free to go ahead. I like this matchup for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, I'm with you on that too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this matchup for the Cowboys. I think Diggs
Speaker 1: has the advantage one because you know he has Heinekey
Speaker 1: back there throwing them the football. And what we know
Speaker 1: about Heineke is he he's a gun slinger, has that
Speaker 1: gun slayer mentality. He likes to take chances. So a
Speaker 1: lot of those balls we've seen McLaurin catch these past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks have been fifty fifty balls. Like Heineke's
Speaker 1: literally running running around, running around od They're seventeen, They're scary. Terry,
Speaker 1: let me throw the ball up, and he's one of
Speaker 1: the majority of these fifty fifty balls. But when you're
Speaker 1: going against a guy like Traymon Diggs, who has some
Speaker 1: receiver background and has probably arguably the best hands for
Speaker 1: defensive back in the National Football League, those fifty fift
Speaker 1: people all start to become seventy twenty five balls in
Speaker 1: favor of Digs. So to me, I love this matchup.
Speaker 1: I love the length that Diggs has against a fast
Speaker 1: guy like Terry mclurin. I feel like he's gonna be
Speaker 1: able to get up on a line of scrimmage, get
Speaker 1: his hands on him. He's gonna be able to throw
Speaker 1: that timing off. That chemistry between McClory, McLaurin, and Heineke
Speaker 1: out there. But overall, this is gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a good one for people to
Speaker 1: keep their eyes on because McLaurin is one of the
Speaker 1: better round runners in the National Football League. He has
Speaker 1: that gold juice that gas where he can run by
Speaker 1: everybody on the field, and he has a quarterback there
Speaker 1: who's not afraid to throw the ball up to him.
Speaker 1: So this will be a good matchup. Mcclurin these past
Speaker 1: couple of years has become that not as quite as
Speaker 1: devastating as the Sean Jackson, but he's also had a
Speaker 1: couple of great games against these Cowboys, so he's creeping
Speaker 1: into that kind of cowboy killer realm right now. So
Speaker 1: it should be a great matchup. But like I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm favoring Thigs. I love the length, I love his
Speaker 1: hands and his ball skills up there, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it was fifty fifty balls will be his for
Speaker 1: the majority part of this game. I just don't want
Speaker 1: to see Anthony Brown on him. Not no disrespect Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: Like he's had a great season so far this year
Speaker 1: except for two games. But I just feel like the
Speaker 1: matchup between McLaurin or yeah, McClaren and Diggs favors the
Speaker 1: Cowboys rather than Anthony Brown. And McLaurin. I just feel
Speaker 1: like that'd be a matchup in favor of the Washington
Speaker 1: football team, So I'm in favor of it. That's how
Speaker 1: the Diggs travels with them and locks this guy down.
Speaker 1: All right, We've just had somebody comment right here on
Speaker 1: the feed. They said all pro question Mark, Yes, oh, tryon.
Speaker 1: He's got nine interceptions leading the league. I'm going there.
Speaker 1: I ain't going to say he get one more and
Speaker 1: have ten. There's no way in the world of guys
Speaker 1: gonna have ten picks in the National Football League. He's pro.
Speaker 1: It's only one thing. I'm gonna say, there's only one thing,
Speaker 1: because they have Do they have like if the nickel
Speaker 1: back its own all pro position or they just go
Speaker 1: the top three corners? Good question. I'm not sure it's
Speaker 1: a good question because if they do, like a nickel
Speaker 1: was its own separate and they have just two spots
Speaker 1: for outside corners. I mean, yeah, he has nine picks.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna throw him over at Jalen Ramsey? Yes, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what about a JC? I mean J. C. Jackson's right
Speaker 1: there and interceptions and he's also been map is giving
Speaker 1: up as many yards, so I can see the argument,
Speaker 1: but I'm with you. I mean, I think he definitely
Speaker 1: deserves to be an All Pro, first team All All
Speaker 1: Pro because he has nine interceptions with five games left,
Speaker 1: so he's probably gonna squeeze out maybe two or three more.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at a guy with eleven to twelve interceptions,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw them on there. But I can see
Speaker 1: the argument of other guys saying, well, there's a Ramsey,
Speaker 1: there's a J. C. Jackson out there. But if you're
Speaker 1: going to just top three corners, there's no waiters that
Speaker 1: he's not in the top three. I mean, the guys
Speaker 1: had two special of the season. Yeah that you know,
Speaker 1: you've seen him the pick sixes, and he's once again
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the spotlight down the stretch here.
Speaker 1: And I'm still believe in the Arizona and Dallas game
Speaker 1: is going to get flexed. Chris Bean doesn't think so,
Speaker 1: but I think we're gonna see the Cowboys on the
Speaker 1: nbcing back to back weeks. I think we're gonna see
Speaker 1: him the day after Christmas and we'll see him against
Speaker 1: Kyler Marie in the Arizona Cardins. But I just I
Speaker 1: believe Diggy's gonna get another pick, and I just don't
Speaker 1: see any way Dallas Cowboy cornerback with ten picks is
Speaker 1: not going to be on the All Protein. He's had
Speaker 1: that kind of season. He really has. He's had that
Speaker 1: kind of impactful season. And right now, when we look
Speaker 1: at the Cowboys, the defense is playing better than the offense.
Speaker 1: And if the defense carries his team down the stretch here,
Speaker 1: he's going to be the person who gets the most
Speaker 1: accolades for the performance of what's going on here. And
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is planks'm outstanding football. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if Michael Parsons will make the All Protein. But what
Speaker 1: Diggs is doing at a corner and the way you
Speaker 1: identify fight, the way they select him interceptions matter, He's
Speaker 1: going to be there. I just true. You know, oh,
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I think he'll be in there.
Speaker 1: And then another point on that Arizona game is hopefully
Speaker 1: we get this matchup because it'll further solidify, you know,
Speaker 1: him being an All Pro. But if he's able to
Speaker 1: go out there and shadow DeAndre Hopkins, now I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll be playing or not because they might
Speaker 1: have the number one seed sewn up by then, who knows.
Speaker 1: But if they have that matchup out there on prime
Speaker 1: time and they flex that game and he goes out
Speaker 1: there and locks him up or gets to pick or
Speaker 1: does something great against DeAndre Hopkins, I mean that right there,
Speaker 1: to me, he's going against the top three, maybe even
Speaker 1: the top receiver international Football League. He's able to go
Speaker 1: out there and lock him down, and it's on prime
Speaker 1: time and it's against the two of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the national or in the NFC, I gotta say,
Speaker 1: I mean that that solidifies it for me. If he's
Speaker 1: able to do that, Okay, and I'll say this, does
Speaker 1: he need to have that kind of performance against Hopkins
Speaker 1: considering what he did against Jefferson Edmond is soda thanks
Speaker 1: to Hilton two catches in that football game, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and that defense only allowed one touchdown and
Speaker 1: when Fland caught it. Um, I don't think that was
Speaker 1: against him at all. But I look at the body
Speaker 1: of work of what he's done already and and it's
Speaker 1: it's when you talk about all pro quarner and what
Speaker 1: you want right now that that's he's it. He's done
Speaker 1: his part. And I know last year when we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys after the season and looking at
Speaker 1: the draft, and we said, this is a team devoid
Speaker 1: of blue chip players. And that was the fact at
Speaker 1: the time, there were no blue chip players on the
Speaker 1: football team. And you look at the Cowboys. Now they
Speaker 1: have two blue chip players. Did a corner and then
Speaker 1: you got Michael Parsons over there at the linebacker spot.
Speaker 1: You know, those are two blue chip players that you
Speaker 1: have on your on your football team. So I expect
Speaker 1: him to get the accolaides. You know, we know Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl for sure. Okay, we already know that, but all pros.
Speaker 1: When you just say, hey, who are the best quarters
Speaker 1: in the whole league, you're gonna select two guys. Guy, um,
Speaker 1: he's there. In my opinion, he is there. And now
Speaker 1: you got five you got five games to go with
Speaker 1: the ability to solidify it even more. But what we
Speaker 1: saw him do early on the season, and how where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were playing, and look you look at the
Speaker 1: Saints game. Here that that pick he had. I mean
Speaker 1: the Saints were they were driving. I mean they were
Speaker 1: in the football game. Okay, the Cowboys won it, but
Speaker 1: the Saints were in that football game. And here he
Speaker 1: is making another key play. So the picks he's making,
Speaker 1: these aren't those garbage picks. You know, this isn't hey man,
Speaker 1: the end of the half. You know, he's just having
Speaker 1: to know. This guy's making impact picks, changing the football game,
Speaker 1: running picks back. Um. Yes, he is an All Pro
Speaker 1: football player, and I'm telling you, man, he's on his
Speaker 1: way to a second contract. I do want to say
Speaker 1: this about Anthony Brown about let's say you wanted to
Speaker 1: put him on Tarim mclaur if you didn't give him
Speaker 1: some help give him, that's it. We make it too
Speaker 1: to the double coverage on McLaurin, whether it's like you said,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, even pressing and you gotta safety
Speaker 1: over the top, or he's playing off and you got
Speaker 1: a linebacker buzzing underneath them to take away those shorts
Speaker 1: intermediate routes. If you do have him, if you don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, because if you if you're traveling,
Speaker 1: if you're traveling with Diggs, and let's just say they
Speaker 1: put McLaurin in motion and all this other stuff, it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna basically give your disguise if you're gonna
Speaker 1: know if they're in man, the man or if they're
Speaker 1: in zone. So if let's just say Quinn wants to
Speaker 1: keep the integrity of his defense, he wants to keep
Speaker 1: that disguise alive, and they might end up having Brown
Speaker 1: on mcclorin at that time, you gotta have safety help
Speaker 1: over top. Maybe a couple of times here and there
Speaker 1: you let them go one on one. But for the
Speaker 1: most part, I'm not letting heinekee Key on Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: with him one on one with mclorin. I'm putting them
Speaker 1: safety help over the top where there's Kazy, whether it's
Speaker 1: curse buzzing underneath or whoever the case may be. If
Speaker 1: you want to remain the integrity of your defense and
Speaker 1: keep that disguise alive, giving a man help over there
Speaker 1: just don't set them up for failure. So I agree
Speaker 1: with you on that point. But for the most part,
Speaker 1: if it's me, if I'm the DC, I'm putting them
Speaker 1: putting days on what I'm saying, Hey, man, go through
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, earn that second crime track. You're
Speaker 1: already on your way, go ahead and locked just got
Speaker 1: down as well. How do you feel about Kazy right
Speaker 1: about now? Right now, I'm kind of disappointed and I
Speaker 1: say that because we know, like his past with Atlanta,
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, he's one of the most ball hawking
Speaker 1: safeties there was. I mean, he had ten picks one
Speaker 1: year and then I think he backdoord down and followed
Speaker 1: it up with another year was six interceptions. So I
Speaker 1: know he has that ability to be that whole safety,
Speaker 1: that deep part of it feels safety, that Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: that can roll him back and forth. But when I
Speaker 1: watched the tape and I watched these games, I feel
Speaker 1: as though his angles to the football, whether it's breaking
Speaker 1: out of the deep middle or coming down and try
Speaker 1: to make a tackle, their angles just not have been there.
Speaker 1: I mean, we looked at that New England game. He
Speaker 1: was the last line of defense back there. If it
Speaker 1: was me, you should have went to the body of
Speaker 1: the receiver and knocked it up, but he ran right
Speaker 1: past it. And I'm talking about when Kevin burn I
Speaker 1: think his name is caught the past for eighty five
Speaker 1: yards on a touchdown in that New England game. There's
Speaker 1: just multiple instances of that where he's at the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and his angles to the ball just
Speaker 1: aren't where they need to be, and he's given up
Speaker 1: a lot of big players. So right now, I say,
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit disappointed in Casey's game because I
Speaker 1: thought he would come in here and be one of
Speaker 1: that ball hockey safety that Earl tim in safety when
Speaker 1: we're talking about dan Quinn's defense. But his angles just
Speaker 1: have been a little bit off this year. They look,
Speaker 1: the past four or five games have not been the
Speaker 1: best football of Demante Casey's career. So there's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys who need to really put together a good
Speaker 1: five games because they get ready to head into this
Speaker 1: offseason because they'll be free agents. Case He's signed to
Speaker 1: one year deal, So this is really it. This is
Speaker 1: a big push for a whole lot of guys. I
Speaker 1: mean you start to think about this now, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who were trying to solidify their position,
Speaker 1: be it with the Dallas Cowboys or somewhere else in
Speaker 1: the league next year. And consistently we see teams like
Speaker 1: to sign players off playoff teams. So if you want
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and go further in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: because it just helps you, I mean, really, who wants
Speaker 1: to go outside a bunch of losers? You know, teams
Speaker 1: won two games last year, you know, you know, but
Speaker 1: like you trying to sign a bunch of Jets acting season,
Speaker 1: you know, you trying to guys kind out here and
Speaker 1: played some winning football and bring them into your program.
Speaker 1: And so that that kind of one year you think
Speaker 1: about Keanu Yellow one year deal. League hookers on a
Speaker 1: one year deal. Um, Michael Gallaph is up after the season,
Speaker 1: curses up after There's a lot of guys we're seeing
Speaker 1: here who who are looking for that next Lake Banderash contract.
Speaker 1: It's starting. It's starting to remind me of that twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen year, that rookie year with Dak and Zeke, and
Speaker 1: you know, we went on that run. We went to
Speaker 1: the playoffs and we had a really good team that year.
Speaker 1: And after that, after that season, I mean, teams came
Speaker 1: and picked it apart. I mean they basically blew up.
Speaker 1: The secretary I went to Jacksonville. I think Claiborne went
Speaker 1: to the Jets. The car went to Baltimore. We had
Speaker 1: some other guys in the linebacker situation. I went other places.
Speaker 1: I mean, when you have a good team and you
Speaker 1: got so many people on their last year or one
Speaker 1: year deals, these teams around the league, there they're scouting,
Speaker 1: they're looking at you as well, like, man, I bet
Speaker 1: you that guy can do great for our organization, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick him part this team once the season's over.
Speaker 1: And it's something these guys to either solidify your resume,
Speaker 1: to solidify your spot with the Cowboys, or at least
Speaker 1: put it out there to where another team will want
Speaker 1: to come up and grab you and give you a
Speaker 1: nice chuck of change. All right, we gotta take one
Speaker 1: more break here. Based on that, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you a question out of the break, Barry, based on
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Speaker 1: Barry Church for Dallas Cowboys Safety. So Barry want to
Speaker 1: take you back in kind of how we were talking
Speaker 1: about the last conversation. So you were there. You talked
Speaker 1: about how that you guys had that great year twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: thirteen and three team teams good. Everybody comes for the
Speaker 1: free agent players. Got a bunch of Cowboy players who's
Speaker 1: neither contracts are coming up here or you know, they
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could exercise their ability to walk away from
Speaker 1: their contract team. When you're in that kind of situation,
Speaker 1: What is December like for you? To me? It was
Speaker 1: the final push? Like I knew. I knew, I had
Speaker 1: just you know, filling in the back of my head
Speaker 1: that you know, I wasn't going to be back with
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, I think they had a
Speaker 1: lot of different places they had to put their money,
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of cab whatever excuses they want
Speaker 1: to give, But I knew I wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: back here, so to me the final push, I had
Speaker 1: to get good tape on there. I had to make
Speaker 1: sure that I wasn't giving up busted coverages or I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting beating man and man, I was doing all
Speaker 1: my jobs and all my responsibilities and helping this team
Speaker 1: win because I knew if I was able to do that,
Speaker 1: I don't care what team I went through. I was
Speaker 1: going to the highest bidder and I'll definitely I'll definitely
Speaker 1: tell you this. You know, the grass is not always
Speaker 1: greener on the other side and these other organizations. I
Speaker 1: feel like the Dallas Cowboys, and not just because I
Speaker 1: played here, but they have a top notch organization. They
Speaker 1: treat the players right, and you're not gonna You're not
Speaker 1: gonna basically make as much as you do off the
Speaker 1: field with the Cowboys with other teams. But if you're
Speaker 1: in a situation where this is your first time to
Speaker 1: really get the bag, to really get as much money
Speaker 1: as you can, then you gotta go for it, whether
Speaker 1: that's what the Cowboys or not, because you know what
Speaker 1: this league stands for, the NFL not for long. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got you gotta maximize on your opportunities to make
Speaker 1: as much money as you can and this short period
Speaker 1: amount of time. And that was my thought process. I
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't going to come here to Dallas, so
Speaker 1: I gotta good put good tape on there, and hopefully
Speaker 1: some teams will come give me a nice chunk of
Speaker 1: change for my services. And that's what I was able
Speaker 1: to do. I went to Jacksonville, played there for the contract,
Speaker 1: and then I retire. But for me, when you're thinking
Speaker 1: about free agency and you're thinking about what do I
Speaker 1: need to do, make sure you handle your business on
Speaker 1: the field first, you know, don't get too far ahead.
Speaker 1: Don't be thinking, Okay, well I got this, I did this,
Speaker 1: maybe this team will holler over or maybe I'll fit
Speaker 1: good with that team. Don't worry about none of that
Speaker 1: until the season is over. Make sure you keep your
Speaker 1: eyes focused on what you gotta do, and that's put
Speaker 1: good tape on the field. When loser draw, make sure
Speaker 1: you're handling your responsibilities on the field. You're not giving
Speaker 1: up big busted coverages or plays like that, because that's
Speaker 1: the quickest way for you not to get paid in
Speaker 1: the offseason. So you gotta focus on what you gotta
Speaker 1: do and hopefully it comes out on top. But if
Speaker 1: you start thinking about, you know, maybe this team or
Speaker 1: maybe that situation, it will take away your focus on
Speaker 1: the field and you end up playing bad and then
Speaker 1: you won't get paid at all. So to me, focus
Speaker 1: on the field first. Worry about the contract and all
Speaker 1: that other type of situations. Once the season's done. A
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to play for here in December. Just
Speaker 1: member football games are just different, folks. It's just different.
Speaker 1: And obviously livelihoods are at stake as well for players,
Speaker 1: but also on the coaching side. A lot of rumors
Speaker 1: start getting that put out here around right now. George Edwards,
Speaker 1: Cowboys assistant defensive assistant who spends a lot of time
Speaker 1: with the linebackers. He is up for the head football
Speaker 1: coaching job at Duke. So he's a former former players
Speaker 1: so his name is there. Former Cowboy head coach Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett his name is up there at Jay and the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator over at Texas A and M Mike Elko
Speaker 1: his name is up there as well. So right so,
Speaker 1: these are some of the guys that are they're there.
Speaker 1: Tony Elliott is not going, and he was up for
Speaker 1: the Duke job, but he's gonna take the Virginia job here.
Speaker 1: So um, it looks like there may be hope for
Speaker 1: George Edwards to get the job here. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: be it's gonna be interesting. Um, it's it's gonna be tough,
Speaker 1: especially with JAG's name in the hat. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: going to a score and it Duke may not be
Speaker 1: IVY level, but it's one of those you know, prestigious
Speaker 1: you know college universities where academics is definitely key when
Speaker 1: you're going into that school and you know JG he
Speaker 1: has that IVY league that fast. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it's a matchmate in heaven. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Oh that's okay, Okay, So so let me just start
Speaker 1: ripping it off from the time. Number one, he's never
Speaker 1: coached in college, Okay, never coaching college. And today so
Speaker 1: today's college football is a whole other beast. In fact,
Speaker 1: you got college coaches trying to run out of college
Speaker 1: because of this whole nil deal. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: the day. Man, I got to recruit him. Now I
Speaker 1: got to help him get paid too. And I step
Speaker 1: at the door and they want to know, Okay, what
Speaker 1: you got for me, because the last coaches came up here,
Speaker 1: this is what they're gonna give me. I mean, so,
Speaker 1: so this whole NIL deal is a different beast, and
Speaker 1: if you haven't been in it, it is hard. And
Speaker 1: you talk about Jason Garrett coming in here to coach
Speaker 1: and learning rules. I remember when I worked over at
Speaker 1: US and I worked in LA and I covered USC.
Speaker 1: They brought Paul Hacking in from the NFL, and Paul
Speaker 1: had been to college coach. There are many things he
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. He didn't know. Okay, late
Speaker 1: late game situation, sc gets a first down, he calls
Speaker 1: the time out to stop, plot like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Clock automatically stops in college football. So there were a
Speaker 1: lot of that he just didn't know. And along the way,
Speaker 1: the way he treated the players, I mean, it just
Speaker 1: wasn't a good fit. It was a terrible fit. But
Speaker 1: when I look at Jason Garrett and I just say
Speaker 1: to myself, you're if you're Duke University, Mike Elco makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense because he already coached at Wake
Speaker 1: Force and helped Wake Force build a program that they
Speaker 1: have today where they played for the ACC championship and
Speaker 1: hack of a good defensive coordinator. But Wake Force, when
Speaker 1: you talk about the academics and you talk about a
Speaker 1: small football school, it's really the same. And to me,
Speaker 1: if I'm Duke University, I'm looking over Wake to the
Speaker 1: east of me, and I'm saying I mean to the
Speaker 1: west of me, and I'm saying, Okay, that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to build. I want that kind of program. Why
Speaker 1: not go get somebody truly has an understanding of how
Speaker 1: to go do that, who's been recruiting, who can Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, in a place like Duke, you got
Speaker 1: to go try to really get across the nation to
Speaker 1: get some kids because you gotta have such a high
Speaker 1: academic standard to recruit him. But Mike's already been down
Speaker 1: here in Texas. He knows where Texas talent is. And
Speaker 1: then plus he's already been in the ACC. So to me,
Speaker 1: if you're dude, you go there, not some guy from
Speaker 1: the NFL who's just legal job losing to the job
Speaker 1: where everybody said he was predictable calling plays. You don't
Speaker 1: think j G can go down there and get some
Speaker 1: of the top recruits. You don't think j G would
Speaker 1: be one of them good recruiters down there. Getting everybody
Speaker 1: a come to this Duke University won't get you, right,
Speaker 1: I got the NFL experience, head coaching experience. You don't
Speaker 1: think he'd be a good fit down there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that this is predictable. They made that, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't know. Maybe you get
Speaker 1: some players around them he can get from work out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give you the example. How's that working
Speaker 1: out for her met with today? There's a state right
Speaker 1: now herf that's a guy though the whole beef as
Speaker 1: a guy. Man, How's how's it working out for that
Speaker 1: guy who went from New Whitland Bill Belichick staff over
Speaker 1: there to to Arizona. How's that working out there? There's
Speaker 1: a terrible ti here, Charlie Wis j G the hope
Speaker 1: they're not? JG? I'm telling you can turn that thing around.
Speaker 1: He could turn that organization at that university or around.
Speaker 1: And I'm too far far gone when they were in
Speaker 1: the ACC championship. I think when Daniel Jones was there,
Speaker 1: they were up there, so they ain't too far gone.
Speaker 1: And I think JG can bring those those recruits in
Speaker 1: there as well. So I j G got my he
Speaker 1: got my support man, he got me college room. College
Speaker 1: recruiting is hard. I mean I was. I was over
Speaker 1: the TCU campus the other day and then was talking
Speaker 1: with the dean the School of Business and he's been
Speaker 1: working with the ad about just Nil and how they're
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Hey, how do we work this thing?
Speaker 1: This is a whole situation that people on these colleges
Speaker 1: are trying to figure out here. So you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: a guy who hasn't done any recruiting and now he said, hey,
Speaker 1: do you know nil is do you know? That's that?
Speaker 1: To me, that's a tough ask. And if and if
Speaker 1: I'm Duke University, I'm gonna hire somebody who's already in
Speaker 1: an understanding of what to do. And plus they can't
Speaker 1: emphasize this enough. Man, there's you can't recruit everybody there
Speaker 1: church because of the acause of the academic standards so
Speaker 1: high out there. You're not gonna get you a five star,
Speaker 1: but he has a you know, two point three GBA
Speaker 1: high school. It's not it ain't gonna work out that way.
Speaker 1: This this is a tough deal. That's why I said
Speaker 1: that guy like Elko who's at Wake fourth, they already knew, Hey,
Speaker 1: there's only a certain kind of kids that we could
Speaker 1: bring in. Yeah, Will McClay the Cowboys, Will went to
Speaker 1: He went to Rice University, and Will can tell you
Speaker 1: when when um my old buddy David Bayeff was coaching
Speaker 1: down that Rice, David Bayleff used to tell me said, Nwi,
Speaker 1: I lose more kids to the oil and gas industry
Speaker 1: than I do to the NFL director because they're smart
Speaker 1: and they go on these internships. And he says, we
Speaker 1: just recruit a different type of kids. They're just kids.
Speaker 1: We kid even we don't even bother to knock on
Speaker 1: their door. So I just think that they'd be better
Speaker 1: off finding somebody who has a better understanding of what
Speaker 1: to do there. All right, very church, good stuff. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: Dave mccraig, we'll join us feedback here and we will
Speaker 1: review with him, and that he could tell us all
Speaker 1: about Survivor. He can finally tell us the little ins
Speaker 1: and outs about Survivor and what he didn't like and
Speaker 1: how the how Jeff really is as a curse in
Speaker 1: the host. I can't wait. I can't wait, man, It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun show, all right, Chris being We
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