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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison Lauren z Ema coming to you from the
Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Quite chilly Austin, Texas. And
Speaker 1: you know, if it's freezing as I'm looking out right now,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at our pool and there are still icebergs
Speaker 1: drifting in our pool. We're in kind of middle of Texas,
Speaker 1: so everywhere north of here is much much colder. As
Speaker 1: we were watching football this weekend, what was going on
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, it was like thirty six below. People were
Speaker 1: bringing their own shovels of Kansas City.
Speaker 2: Loved it.
Speaker 3: I love watching well, I'm sure they were good, but
Speaker 3: it felt like watching adult snow day. I mean, you
Speaker 3: know me, I'm not always into watching the sports, and
Speaker 3: I certainly didn't watch all of the games, but like
Speaker 3: our kids are TCU right now, they're having snow days.
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's just something fun about the seasonal experience.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that to make the light light
Speaker 3: of like any of the dangers.
Speaker 1: Things are going great, like when you pipes aren't frozen,
Speaker 1: when you're not you know, if you have a nice
Speaker 1: fire and all that there's nothing better than a good
Speaker 1: cozy day. Yeah. And I liked.
Speaker 3: Watching the dudes being dudes at the Buffalo game, like yes,
Speaker 3: like just laying in the snow together, drinking beers, just
Speaker 3: trudging through fans out there to support their team.
Speaker 1: Digging their own like Barca loungers into the snow. And
Speaker 1: I love that. In Buffalo that for the first time,
Speaker 1: like really in the history of the NFL, they announced
Speaker 1: nobody has seats today, there are no seats. Just dig
Speaker 1: out and stand where you want to stand. It was
Speaker 1: kind of just first come, first serve wherever you can be.
Speaker 1: Just try to get in the stadium because there's it
Speaker 1: was just crazy how much snow fell up there and.
Speaker 3: People were like trudging through it. I mean those videos
Speaker 3: even made their way to me. Well, we watched a
Speaker 3: little bit of the game. We also watched a little
Speaker 3: bit of the Emmys.
Speaker 1: We watched all of the Emmies. It was, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a crazy night. As we get into the
Speaker 1: Emmys because obviously people have reached out to us to
Speaker 1: kind of ask our opinions because well, we have both
Speaker 1: been on the Emmy red carpet. Some of us have
Speaker 1: four Emmys, Lauren, and so it's something we really cared
Speaker 1: about because obviously it's the industry we are in, In
Speaker 1: the industry we love. The Emmys should have taken place
Speaker 1: a long time ago, but both unions, the writers actors
Speaker 1: were on strike. So what should have happened in September
Speaker 1: the seventy fifth Emmys, this look back, this retrospective, and
Speaker 1: this celebration would have been fantastic in September. The fact
Speaker 1: that we just went through the Golden Globes, the Critics'
Speaker 1: Choice Awards, and within eight days we're having our third celebration,
Speaker 1: but not even really of the same year, because this
Speaker 1: is last year's Emmys. And on top of that, this
Speaker 1: weather pushed that Bill's football games. Not only do we
Speaker 1: have one football game, we have two football games. Oh
Speaker 1: and by the way, whether you care or not, it's
Speaker 1: a big deal. The Iowa Caucus is going on. So
Speaker 1: there's more news than we are used to and now
Speaker 1: we're going to try and shoehorn the Emmys in. They
Speaker 1: didn't stand a chance.
Speaker 3: It wasn't it was I mean, because yeah, that Buffalo
Speaker 3: the Bills game was not supposed to be Monday.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be last Saturday, but weather pushed it.
Speaker 1: And then you had a major market, Philadelphia. The Eagles
Speaker 1: were playing right after that. That's a huge game.
Speaker 3: I know the cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Speaker 3: posted from.
Speaker 1: The Yeah, they be watching the people at the Emmys
Speaker 1: were not even caring about the Emmys. They were watching
Speaker 1: football on their phones.
Speaker 3: And you could see some people when they would cut
Speaker 3: to the audience, you could see people on their phones
Speaker 3: and I was like, are they watching the football games?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: I mean, it was even physically an empty theater. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like the theater wasn't full. There were a lot of
Speaker 3: empty chairs, and I was thinking, you know, usually with
Speaker 3: the word shows, they hire seat fillers if they have
Speaker 3: empty chairs.
Speaker 2: Could they not even get seat fillers?
Speaker 1: And well, they had a few because obviously Harrison Ford
Speaker 1: was in front of you know, Anthony Anderson's mom, which
Speaker 1: we'll talk about her in a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 1: Harrison Ford stuck around for a little bit. Then he
Speaker 1: went probably went backstage before Callista's big moment. And it
Speaker 1: was very interesting that the director, I could tell, had
Speaker 1: a really tough time shooting angles of the audience because
Speaker 1: it was so empty. It looked like Hollywood didn't even
Speaker 1: care about the Emmys.
Speaker 3: Well, and we've gotten the ratings and I think just
Speaker 3: based on all that, we're not surprised.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were abysmal.
Speaker 3: This is a new low. The headline from Deadline Hollywood
Speaker 3: is Emmy's sync to another historically low. Audience down twenty
Speaker 3: seven percent from twenty twenty two, So in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: it was a new low.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I it was funny I read
Speaker 1: that article today in twenty twenty two, the big headline
Speaker 1: was Emmy's down twenty five percent. They sink to a
Speaker 1: new low. It is crazy that we have come out
Speaker 1: of the COVID pandemic where we finally can actually be
Speaker 1: together and celebrate, and it's going even further down the toilet.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: It says it's a significant decrease from the previous all
Speaker 3: time lows. So that most recent all time low was
Speaker 3: less than six million people. Now it's down to about
Speaker 3: four so you lost an additional two million people.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's rough.
Speaker 3: The Awards show also was down more than thirty seven
Speaker 3: percent from the last time Emmy's Aaron on Fox, which
Speaker 3: is in twenty nineteen, so really really rough and it's
Speaker 3: just in just a few years, and of course the
Speaker 3: pandemic was a big part of it. But these awards
Speaker 3: shows have gone down. I actually didn't think the show
Speaker 3: itself was that bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't look Hollywood has an insatiable appetite to pat
Speaker 1: itself on the back and tell each other how great
Speaker 1: they are, so it's not going away the Oscars, the Globes,
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You're never going to stop Hollywood elites
Speaker 1: from celebrating each other. But with that said, I agree
Speaker 1: with Lauren. It was a good show. It was the
Speaker 1: seventy fifth anniversary, so it was also an important show,
Speaker 1: and the producers did a good job. I won't say
Speaker 1: they did a great job. They did a good job
Speaker 1: of trying to celebrate history, going back and having these
Speaker 1: big reunions, the gatherings of cheers and good times.
Speaker 3: If you didn't watch, what they did was it was
Speaker 3: the seventy fifth annual Emmy Awards, so they did some
Speaker 3: retrospectives looking back at the history of TV, and they
Speaker 3: reunited casts from some of the big shows. One thing
Speaker 3: I didn't understand was when they looked back at all
Speaker 3: of these significant moments in TV, and they like they.
Speaker 2: Brought up nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: Well it's I'm like, well, that's a news moment we're
Speaker 3: talking about, Like, yeah, you scripted and react.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about the seventy five most influential moments
Speaker 1: in television, all seventy five are going to be news.
Speaker 1: I mean, you would say JFK being assassinated. You would say,
Speaker 1: I mean all those lading on the move. It would
Speaker 1: either be honestly sports or news. So it has to
Speaker 1: be TV moments of entertainment. It's weird to me, you know.
Speaker 1: And most of those, honestly are going to be the
Speaker 1: Mash Final Show, Cheers Final Show, the Miracle on Ice.
Speaker 1: So anyway, with all that said, they just seem to
Speaker 1: miss the mark. Sometimes Anthony Anderson was the host. He
Speaker 1: did fine. He wasn't bad, he wasn't great, he did fine.
Speaker 1: The opening of the show, in my opinion, did not
Speaker 1: need to be fifteen minutes of Anthony Anderson singing and dancing.
Speaker 1: When they were referring to, for example, Miamivice, I would
Speaker 1: have loved to have seen the guys from Miamivice doing well.
Speaker 3: It's the same issue I had with the Globes, which
Speaker 3: is I really don't think these shows need to be hosted.
Speaker 2: I feel this way across all the awards.
Speaker 1: This is nothing against Anthony Anderson.
Speaker 4: Just no.
Speaker 3: I actually I thought he was I mean, first of all,
Speaker 3: world's above Joe Coy.
Speaker 1: But yes, the bar was set very long and he
Speaker 1: was given.
Speaker 2: It his all.
Speaker 3: I mean, at one point he put on that latex
Speaker 3: suit from American Horror Story. When Dylan McDermott was on stage,
Speaker 3: Anthony Anderson was working hard, he brought his mom out.
Speaker 3: And the thing is, they brought the mom out in
Speaker 3: this bit to jokingly cut people's speeches off. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, but that's the problem. I would rather see
Speaker 3: her for Coolidge give her whole speech, and you just
Speaker 3: cut her off, and we don't need this much like.
Speaker 1: Host time, all the other stars were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: please make it stop. And it didn't stop. The only
Speaker 1: good news, babe, is that they quickly got that note
Speaker 1: they didn't and she didn't do it again.
Speaker 3: Well right, yeah, and it because I mean, I don't
Speaker 3: want to miss Jennifer Coolidge thanking the Evil Gaze. It
Speaker 3: was so funny and brilliant and again, you know, then
Speaker 3: you had like Ioadebois from the bear who's getting up
Speaker 3: there to win, and she's literally saying, oh, they're telling
Speaker 3: me I only have forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be yelled at you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know again, I want to see these people
Speaker 3: give their speeches. I mean, we have You've got the
Speaker 3: most talented people in the world up there. Iodebois won
Speaker 3: Quinta Brunson one and she's so funny and great, and
Speaker 3: luckily they kind of started letting these speeches play out more.
Speaker 3: But god, Nisi Nash's speech was hilaria when she thanked herself,
Speaker 3: that was incredible.
Speaker 1: So can I ask you a question?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have we so in the heyday, you know, when these
Speaker 1: things were tens of millions of people watching and they
Speaker 1: went very long, the things may have been the problem
Speaker 1: may have been long speeches. There were so many long
Speaker 1: acceptance speeches that that was a problem. Are we projecting
Speaker 1: this as still a problem And maybe the problem is
Speaker 1: we're not using these speeches anymore. Yeah, are we missing
Speaker 1: the mark? They've overcorrected or something.
Speaker 4: They've gotten too worried about it, Like now I'm more
Speaker 4: worried about Anthony Anderson doing a twenty minute bizarre open
Speaker 4: and I need to get Jennifer Coolidge off the stage
Speaker 4: in twenty seconds.
Speaker 2: Does the awards show need to be three hours? That's
Speaker 2: another question.
Speaker 1: Well, they have twenty seven awards to hand out. We
Speaker 1: probably could have given Beef all eight awards just in
Speaker 1: one minute. The same guy got up and spoke twenty times.
Speaker 1: If you didn't see, by the way, it was just
Speaker 1: a celebration of Beef the Bear, A little Abbot Elementary
Speaker 1: sprinkled in in succession. That's it. That's the only four
Speaker 1: shows that exist in television. Oh and RuPaul's Dragways, which
Speaker 1: has now won fifty Emmys.
Speaker 2: I don't think it needs to be three hours either.
Speaker 2: It doesn't what I mean three hours.
Speaker 1: Banging out in two hours?
Speaker 2: I remember, I'm not just say what's longer than I thought? Oh,
Speaker 2: football is longer than.
Speaker 1: Well, the first time I hosted Miss America, it was
Speaker 1: still three hours on ABC and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that is that is a lot. And The Bachelor we
Speaker 1: started doing two hour episodes, which was pretty unheard of.
Speaker 1: You know, there was a moment and by the way,
Speaker 1: not to poo poo on all of it. There were
Speaker 1: some great moments going back and seeing you know the
Speaker 1: group from Cheers, but even then, it's like they should
Speaker 1: have had more. And there were times when we did
Speaker 1: get some amazing people together from our history, Carol Burnett
Speaker 1: and all that, and I'm like, that's what I want
Speaker 1: to see more of. Give me more of that. But
Speaker 1: there was that moment where Sunny and Philadelphia the cast
Speaker 1: got out there and they were making fun of the
Speaker 1: point that they've been there for sixteen years and sixteen
Speaker 1: seasons and they've never been nominated for an Emmy.
Speaker 2: Quality over quantity.
Speaker 3: I think if that same show had been done in
Speaker 3: two hours, we would be like it was really great.
Speaker 2: Like we just needed to cut some of the fat.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there were some I Marla Gibbs ninety
Speaker 3: two years old looked amazing. Collins, Oh, Joan Collins, Carol Burnett,
Speaker 3: there were some icons on.
Speaker 1: Beautiful Joan Collins looked by the way. It was good
Speaker 1: to see the cast of Ally McBeal. Here's a funny
Speaker 1: story and again just why I love television. Ally McBeal
Speaker 1: was the show we went up against when The Bachelor
Speaker 1: premiered and everyone thought, you're never going to make it.
Speaker 1: You're against this amazing show tour and to four so
Speaker 1: of Calista Flockhart and I loved Ally McBeal, and then
Speaker 1: later we went up against the West Wing and like
Speaker 1: all these shows that became so huge that came and
Speaker 1: went while we were still in the air, And I
Speaker 1: thought about Sonny and Philadelphia. Survivor has been nominated at
Speaker 1: least they were even nominated this year. I go back
Speaker 1: to The Bachelor. We've been on for twenty years. It's
Speaker 1: never been nominated. I mean, you could jump up there
Speaker 1: and do the same thing that Sonny and Philadelphia did.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. And so it also goes to show how
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, truly unimportant these shows are.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you a question, which one do
Speaker 1: you think which statue means the most as far as dollars, Emmy, Globe,
Speaker 1: Oscar or Grammy.
Speaker 2: Uh, you mean making more money for the person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what is like the Emmys In my opinion,
Speaker 1: don't move the needle. Nobody's going to go out and
Speaker 1: watch Ted Lasso or Succession. Those shows are heavy one,
Speaker 1: but like when the Oscars happen, there is a residual
Speaker 1: Oscar bounce typically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that Emmys have more opportunity
Speaker 3: to do that now than ever before because of streaming,
Speaker 3: Like it used to be if you missed a show
Speaker 3: and then it went all these Emmys, well, I don't
Speaker 3: wait for next season right now.
Speaker 2: I mean you and I.
Speaker 3: After seeing Beef win all these awards, I'm like, why
Speaker 3: I didn't watch Beef? Maybe I should go watch it
Speaker 3: and it's available on fl But there's a lot of
Speaker 3: Emmys given out. I mean I have four. Like there's
Speaker 3: the Creative Arts Semis, there's the Daytime Emmys, there's a
Speaker 3: regular Emmys. There's a lot of Emmys, So I think
Speaker 3: you have a little more brand dilution there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that, uh, you know, they really had an
Speaker 3: opportunity here given that it was the seventy fifth Emmys,
Speaker 3: and I think the Globes did a better job of
Speaker 3: kind of shaking things up this year. I thought I
Speaker 3: saw more fun content from the Globes. They hired some
Speaker 3: like fun people to do their social media on the
Speaker 3: carpet and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: And when you.
Speaker 3: Think about four million people, I mean that's that's like
Speaker 3: one episode of a TV show that people watch right now,
Speaker 3: And it would even be considered low for a random
Speaker 3: episode of a.
Speaker 2: Television show for a live event that happens one series.
Speaker 1: It is atrocious. I haven't seen the numbers. I was
Speaker 1: looking right as we came on. It didn't come on,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to guess football my guest drew twenty
Speaker 1: plus million viewers, so that you know, five x the Emmys.
Speaker 1: That is what both of these football games did individually.
Speaker 3: Now, the Globes did have Taylor Swift, and can we
Speaker 3: talk about the power of Taylor Swift where you might
Speaker 3: be sick of it? No, but I saw all these
Speaker 3: tweets about how people are feeling upset for Jason Kelcey,
Speaker 3: and it was all these Swift He's being like, I
Speaker 3: didn't know who this man was a year ago, but
Speaker 3: now I feel sad for him and I care about
Speaker 3: him and how he's retiring because he's Taylor Swift's boyfriend's brother,
Speaker 3: and I totally feel the same way.
Speaker 1: The guy's a Hall of Famer. I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, he's one of the greatest to ever play
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: I totally didn't know that. I didn't know he was
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: I just saw this video of him crying, and I'm like, oh, Travis's.
Speaker 1: Brother, Travis, his little brother.
Speaker 3: I also what saw guy say, you know, for anybody
Speaker 3: who's like coming at Taylor Swift about how they're annoyed
Speaker 3: about the shots of her at football games or whatever,
Speaker 3: he said, you know what's been cool for me is
Speaker 3: he said, for the first time my daughter has asked
Speaker 3: me about football.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what. That was a response to a
Speaker 1: former coach who I actually really admire and I've met him.
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guy. And I really think he got
Speaker 1: out over his skis on this. And I don't think
Speaker 1: he's older, so I don't think he understood the honey
Speaker 1: trap he was stepping into. Because Tony Dungee said, you
Speaker 1: know this, this Taylor Swift obsession is taking away from football,
Speaker 1: it's hurting the game, et cetera. And that gentleman you're
Speaker 1: talking about It was a response to that of like, Tony,
Speaker 1: you're missing the point here. I'm sitting here with my daughter.
Speaker 1: The only reason she's watching is because of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: So Tony, I disagree. I don't get the hatred or
Speaker 1: the whatever vitriol. I think that's more of just a
Speaker 1: sign of the times of social media and all the
Speaker 1: like it's just cool to say something rebellious and dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean, what impact does she have? So for four seconds,
Speaker 1: you saw Taylor Swift the other night, who cares well,
Speaker 1: and we were like.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're showing eminem during the.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Lions game is a Detroit guy like right?
Speaker 1: I mean what if I went to, like I remember
Speaker 1: a Cowboy game and I was there, and you know,
Speaker 1: they showed Ellen DeGeneres and George but she who cares
Speaker 1: like celebs love sports sports? I don't. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: There's I didn't miss one play or one interesting moment
Speaker 1: of football because I saw Taylor Swift. And if somebody
Speaker 1: was like you or this little girl, if somebody got
Speaker 1: joy and found some love because they saw Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and her Kansas City jersey or whatever, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Really that hurts you, Like you didn't miss anything. What
Speaker 1: could you really be mad at? So there were something
Speaker 1: I was really interested in last night, and it made
Speaker 1: me come grab one of your Emmy's. We happen to
Speaker 1: have four here in the house thanks to Lauren Zema.
Speaker 1: But as they the winners were holding up, you could
Speaker 1: see there was something inscribed on the bottom of the Emmy.
Speaker 1: I've never noticed that, and I thought, well, maybe it's
Speaker 1: something sweet, maybe it's something poetic. Lauren happens to have
Speaker 1: her Emmy in hand right now, Babe. What does it
Speaker 1: say on the bottom of the Emmy?
Speaker 2: There are rules with this emmy?
Speaker 3: I didn't know. Okay, there are three rules the loss
Speaker 3: of owning an Emmy. It doesn't say that, but here's
Speaker 3: what it says. Number One, the Emmy Statuette is the
Speaker 3: property of and all rights are reserved by the Academy
Speaker 3: of Television, Arts and Sciences. Okay, I don't know if
Speaker 3: that means that they own my Emmy, but I guess
Speaker 3: they're saying the copyright of the Emy statuette. Number two,
Speaker 3: the Emmy Statuette may not be reproduced or used in
Speaker 3: any commercial manner unless otherwise permitted by the Academy.
Speaker 2: Is Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number three, this one's confusing.
Speaker 3: If a recipient or the recipient's air or successessor proposes
Speaker 3: to sell or otherwise dispose of the Emmy statuette, such
Speaker 3: persons shall be obligated to return the statuette to the
Speaker 3: Academy from which received, which will retain the same in
Speaker 3: storage in memory of the recipient.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what that means. We need to
Speaker 2: consult a lawyer.
Speaker 1: What it means is if these ever show up at
Speaker 1: a pawnshop, the Emmy organization has the right to go
Speaker 1: in there and take it and bring it home. And
Speaker 1: you're not going to see these things floating around on
Speaker 1: eBay or whatever being sold around.
Speaker 3: By the way, Emmys aren't cheap. Now, I don't know
Speaker 3: if everybody has to buy their own Emmy. They do, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know, well do they because they always cut
Speaker 3: to the engraving station at the Oscars and the Emmys,
Speaker 3: and they show like footage on social after of the
Speaker 3: stars getting their Emmy engraved.
Speaker 2: So do they have to have a credit card on hand?
Speaker 4: Is they have to?
Speaker 1: Because typically for like the Creative Arts and for all
Speaker 1: these other Emmys, it costs like a thousand dollars, right,
Speaker 1: how much soul money?
Speaker 2: I know you've never won one. I know, I'm not fair.
Speaker 2: What is the Bachelor should have? No Emmys are five
Speaker 2: hundred dollars dollars?
Speaker 3: So yes, at this point, I actually have not bought
Speaker 3: my fourth one yet.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm going to. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it worth five hundred bucks?
Speaker 3: Like you still are a winner of it, but at
Speaker 3: some point I'll spent two thousand dollars on Emmy statues,
Speaker 3: So yeah, does that apply?
Speaker 2: Like is that only for little old me?
Speaker 1: Or yeah? I don't know if that applies for the
Speaker 1: Primetime Emmys.
Speaker 3: If the I don't know, Like last night, did the
Speaker 3: wonderful and talented Quinta Brunson have to like whip out
Speaker 3: her credit card at the engraving station?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to find out. Now we
Speaker 2: know what it says in the bottom, but oh gosh,
Speaker 2: they are heavy. So oh, you know, what was You know,
Speaker 2: it was another weird moment last night?
Speaker 1: What's it?
Speaker 2: What was with the guy who won and he was chewing?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, what happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was a bit
Speaker 1: he was he won and then he came up and
Speaker 1: he was chewing on like a look like some caramel
Speaker 1: or something, because he was like he was really kept,
Speaker 1: was like beef jerky, And I thought, okay, he's going
Speaker 1: to make a joke about this, like, oh, I look,
Speaker 1: I took a bite of my hogiy because I didn't
Speaker 1: think I was going to win, and he kept like
Speaker 1: kind of chewing and he choked down something, and then
Speaker 1: he gave his speech and it was so bizarre.
Speaker 3: He read his speech, which was a wrap off of
Speaker 3: his phone, and you could see his handshaking, and I
Speaker 3: fell back because he was clearly so nervous. The speech
Speaker 3: was well written and cute. I don't love reading important
Speaker 3: speeches and toasts and that kind of thing off a phone.
Speaker 3: I think that's the time when you bring a piece
Speaker 3: of paper the phone for some reason, no matter how
Speaker 3: modern the technology gets. I know we all own a phone,
Speaker 3: but there's something because I think it just seems like
Speaker 3: instantly juvenile or instantly like you don't really care. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's because when someone's looking at their phone, we think
Speaker 3: they're not listening to us, Like you got to print
Speaker 3: it out on a piece of paper, I agree, And
Speaker 3: then your phone's locking and you're scrolling, you're using the
Speaker 3: face side on the Emmys, and it's funny.
Speaker 1: I agree. A piece of paper for some reason, feels
Speaker 1: more intimate.
Speaker 3: You know, one good moment from the Emmys, Tina Fay
Speaker 3: and Amy Pohler reuniting.
Speaker 2: Loved that.
Speaker 3: Of course, then you have everybody saying have them host
Speaker 3: it if they wanted to, they would, they don't want
Speaker 3: to take it on.
Speaker 1: I think our point from the Golden Globes is the best.
Speaker 1: It's like, use those people like honestly. And again this
Speaker 1: no offense to Anthony Anderson, but if you had just
Speaker 1: used all these great casts over seventy five years of
Speaker 1: great television to host essentially the show that would have
Speaker 1: been did that's all you needed? That's it? I think
Speaker 1: that would have been a great way to do it.
Speaker 1: And I love seeing because I love old television. I
Speaker 1: saw some great television. I grew up with things I
Speaker 1: love now and I love I do like seeing people
Speaker 1: celebrated because you and I both know how hard television is.
Speaker 1: And I'll get on a little soapbox here about even
Speaker 1: my Bachelor family, how difficult it is to make TV.
Speaker 1: To get a show bought, sold and put on the air.
Speaker 1: The set, decks, art department, lighting, directors, fautogs, audio, you know,
Speaker 1: you name it are working crazy hours. It is a
Speaker 1: really tough yet rewarding business. And it's a passion. And
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you have a business that is
Speaker 1: an art that is a passion. And so I do
Speaker 1: like watching the celebration because I respect what all these
Speaker 1: people do. It takes a lot of work, not just
Speaker 1: the big stars that we love, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. You know, the writers from Succession.
Speaker 1: I think the guy that wrote that unbelievably beautiful episode
Speaker 1: when the dad dies, and how well that was written
Speaker 1: and how well it was acted. When all that comes together,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better. And you and I were
Speaker 1: just talking about how triggering the Succession theme song is.
Speaker 1: You just hear the theme song when they won an
Speaker 1: award and you're like, oh, it just took you to
Speaker 1: a dark, awesome place. And I miss that show already.
Speaker 1: So I I know we can bag on it and
Speaker 1: the ratings suck and all that stuff, but I still
Speaker 1: want to say I love celebrating TV. I love this business,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad we're still doing it.
Speaker 2: You know why I'm so hard on it because I
Speaker 2: want it to be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's what I love.
Speaker 2: It could be good.
Speaker 3: And I saw several people sharing videos like, oh, people
Speaker 3: don't accept awards like this anymore, Like the time when
Speaker 3: Julia Louis Dreyfus was winning for VEEP and she brought
Speaker 3: Tony Hale up with her and they like kind of
Speaker 3: did a bit from the show.
Speaker 2: For her speech.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get like, give those moments time.
Speaker 3: Let people have fun again and get back to the
Speaker 3: fun of it. I hope that if award shows are
Speaker 3: going to change anything, I hope it's that get back
Speaker 3: to some of the fun. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 3: so preachy. People don't want to be preached at. They
Speaker 3: want to enjoy and allow the actors a little time
Speaker 3: to do that. You know, don't cut their speeches off
Speaker 3: led Jennifer Coolidge, thank the Evil Case.
Speaker 1: As a producer, anytime that you feel that you or
Speaker 1: your show is talking down to the fans to America,
Speaker 1: just stop cut it, get back to fun, get back
Speaker 1: to entertaining. We love Hollywood. We want to love Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I think that's the better statement. We want to love you.
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