WEBVTT - And The Award Goes To… 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most dramatic podcast ever. And iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.480 Chris Harrison Lauren z Ema coming to you from the 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.960 home office in Austin, Texas. Quite chilly Austin, Texas. And 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:16.440 you know, if it's freezing as I'm looking out right now, 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.320 I'm looking at our pool and there are still icebergs 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.759 drifting in our pool. We're in kind of middle of Texas, 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.480 so everywhere north of here is much much colder. As 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.040 we were watching football this weekend, what was going on 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.520 in Buffalo, it was like thirty six below. People were 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.840 bringing their own shovels of Kansas City. 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:34.920 Loved it. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:38.320 I love watching well, I'm sure they were good, but 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.479 it felt like watching adult snow day. I mean, you 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.720 know me, I'm not always into watching the sports, and 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:47.680 I certainly didn't watch all of the games, but like 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.880 our kids are TCU right now, they're having snow days. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:55.280 I don't know, there's just something fun about the seasonal experience. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.840 And I don't mean that to make the light light 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.360 of like any of the dangers. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.000 Things are going great, like when you pipes aren't frozen, 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:02.960 when you're not you know, if you have a nice 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.520 fire and all that there's nothing better than a good 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.160 cozy day. Yeah. And I liked. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:11.640 Watching the dudes being dudes at the Buffalo game, like yes, 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:15.039 like just laying in the snow together, drinking beers, just 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.120 trudging through fans out there to support their team. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.080 Digging their own like Barca loungers into the snow. And 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.360 I love that. In Buffalo that for the first time, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.800 like really in the history of the NFL, they announced 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.880 nobody has seats today, there are no seats. Just dig 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:35.000 out and stand where you want to stand. It was 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.760 kind of just first come, first serve wherever you can be. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:40.720 Just try to get in the stadium because there's it 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.639 was just crazy how much snow fell up there and. 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:47.039 People were like trudging through it. I mean those videos 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.280 even made their way to me. Well, we watched a 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:52.360 little bit of the game. We also watched a little 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.040 bit of the Emmys. 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.720 We watched all of the Emmies. It was, you know, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.880 it was a crazy night. As we get into the 0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.920 Emmys because obviously people have reached out to us to 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.440 kind of ask our opinions because well, we have both 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.720 been on the Emmy red carpet. Some of us have 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:10.639 four Emmys, Lauren, and so it's something we really cared 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:13.040 about because obviously it's the industry we are in, In 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.760 the industry we love. The Emmys should have taken place 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.440 a long time ago, but both unions, the writers actors 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:22.400 were on strike. So what should have happened in September 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.120 the seventy fifth Emmys, this look back, this retrospective, and 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.160 this celebration would have been fantastic in September. The fact 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.840 that we just went through the Golden Globes, the Critics' 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:36.720 Choice Awards, and within eight days we're having our third celebration, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.840 but not even really of the same year, because this 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.200 is last year's Emmys. And on top of that, this 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.200 weather pushed that Bill's football games. Not only do we 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.080 have one football game, we have two football games. Oh 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.120 and by the way, whether you care or not, it's 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.840 a big deal. The Iowa Caucus is going on. So 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.000 there's more news than we are used to and now 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.440 we're going to try and shoehorn the Emmys in. They 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:01.520 didn't stand a chance. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.160 It wasn't it was I mean, because yeah, that Buffalo 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.000 the Bills game was not supposed to be Monday. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.000 It was supposed to be last Saturday, but weather pushed it. 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.560 And then you had a major market, Philadelphia. The Eagles 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.640 were playing right after that. That's a huge game. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.279 I know the cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.280 posted from. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.160 The Yeah, they be watching the people at the Emmys 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.360 were not even caring about the Emmys. They were watching 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:23.560 football on their phones. 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.040 And you could see some people when they would cut 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:27.720 to the audience, you could see people on their phones 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.400 and I was like, are they watching the football games? 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:29.720 Maybe? 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:33.480 I mean, it was even physically an empty theater. Yeah, 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.720 like the theater wasn't full. There were a lot of 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:38.640 empty chairs, and I was thinking, you know, usually with 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.600 the word shows, they hire seat fillers if they have 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:41.240 empty chairs. 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.640 Could they not even get seat fillers? 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.880 And well, they had a few because obviously Harrison Ford 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.960 was in front of you know, Anthony Anderson's mom, which 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.760 we'll talk about her in a little bit, but you know, 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.520 Harrison Ford stuck around for a little bit. Then he 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:56.000 went probably went backstage before Callista's big moment. And it 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.960 was very interesting that the director, I could tell, had 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.600 a really tough time shooting angles of the audience because 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:08.080 it was so empty. It looked like Hollywood didn't even 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:08.960 care about the Emmys. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.000 Well, and we've gotten the ratings and I think just 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:13.600 based on all that, we're not surprised. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:14.560 Yeah, they were abysmal. 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:17.760 This is a new low. The headline from Deadline Hollywood 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:22.960 is Emmy's sync to another historically low. Audience down twenty 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:27.039 seven percent from twenty twenty two, So in twenty twenty two, 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:28.159 it was a new low. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:29.760 And by the way, I it was funny I read 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.840 that article today in twenty twenty two, the big headline 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.159 was Emmy's down twenty five percent. They sink to a 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.080 new low. It is crazy that we have come out 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.960 of the COVID pandemic where we finally can actually be 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:46.880 together and celebrate, and it's going even further down the toilet. 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:47.120 Right. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.839 It says it's a significant decrease from the previous all 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.720 time lows. So that most recent all time low was 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.440 less than six million people. Now it's down to about 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.960 four so you lost an additional two million people. 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:03.120 I mean, it's rough. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.159 The Awards show also was down more than thirty seven 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.719 percent from the last time Emmy's Aaron on Fox, which 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:15.920 is in twenty nineteen, so really really rough and it's 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.640 just in just a few years, and of course the 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.640 pandemic was a big part of it. But these awards 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:23.080 shows have gone down. I actually didn't think the show 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:23.920 itself was that bad. 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.039 It wasn't look Hollywood has an insatiable appetite to pat 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.720 itself on the back and tell each other how great 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.440 they are, so it's not going away the Oscars, the Globes, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.840 all that stuff. You're never going to stop Hollywood elites 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.960 from celebrating each other. But with that said, I agree 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.320 with Lauren. It was a good show. It was the 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:46.160 seventy fifth anniversary, so it was also an important show, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.160 and the producers did a good job. I won't say 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:51.760 they did a great job. They did a good job 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.080 of trying to celebrate history, going back and having these 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.520 big reunions, the gatherings of cheers and good times. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.320 If you didn't watch, what they did was it was 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.000 the seventy fifth annual Emmy Awards, so they did some 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.880 retrospectives looking back at the history of TV, and they 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.720 reunited casts from some of the big shows. One thing 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.960 I didn't understand was when they looked back at all 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.599 of these significant moments in TV, and they like they. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:19.520 Brought up nine to eleven. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.600 Well it's I'm like, well, that's a news moment we're 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.280 talking about, Like, yeah, you scripted and react. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.960 If you're talking about the seventy five most influential moments 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.839 in television, all seventy five are going to be news. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.920 I mean, you would say JFK being assassinated. You would say, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.480 I mean all those lading on the move. It would 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.640 either be honestly sports or news. So it has to 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.520 be TV moments of entertainment. It's weird to me, you know. 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.760 And most of those, honestly are going to be the 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.960 Mash Final Show, Cheers Final Show, the Miracle on Ice. 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:55.960 So anyway, with all that said, they just seem to 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.719 miss the mark. Sometimes Anthony Anderson was the host. He 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.880 did fine. He wasn't bad, he wasn't great, he did fine. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:07.400 The opening of the show, in my opinion, did not 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.679 need to be fifteen minutes of Anthony Anderson singing and dancing. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:16.120 When they were referring to, for example, Miamivice, I would 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.040 have loved to have seen the guys from Miamivice doing well. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.160 It's the same issue I had with the Globes, which 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.520 is I really don't think these shows need to be hosted. 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:26.640 I feel this way across all the awards. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:28.920 This is nothing against Anthony Anderson. 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:29.920 Just no. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.440 I actually I thought he was I mean, first of all, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.200 world's above Joe Coy. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.840 But yes, the bar was set very long and he 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:37.640 was given. 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:37.920 It his all. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:39.880 I mean, at one point he put on that latex 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:43.760 suit from American Horror Story. When Dylan McDermott was on stage, 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.040 Anthony Anderson was working hard, he brought his mom out. 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.800 And the thing is, they brought the mom out in 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:55.520 this bit to jokingly cut people's speeches off. Yeah, and 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.600 I'm thinking, but that's the problem. I would rather see 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.840 her for Coolidge give her whole speech, and you just 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.320 cut her off, and we don't need this much like. 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.920 Host time, all the other stars were like, oh my god, 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.720 please make it stop. And it didn't stop. The only 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.880 good news, babe, is that they quickly got that note 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:16.960 they didn't and she didn't do it again. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.960 Well right, yeah, and it because I mean, I don't 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.160 want to miss Jennifer Coolidge thanking the Evil Gaze. It 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.120 was so funny and brilliant and again, you know, then 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:29.040 you had like Ioadebois from the bear who's getting up 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.840 there to win, and she's literally saying, oh, they're telling 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:33.120 me I only have forty five seconds. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.040 I'm like, I don't want to be yelled at you. 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.400 Yeah, you know again, I want to see these people 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.440 give their speeches. I mean, we have You've got the 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.560 most talented people in the world up there. Iodebois won 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.839 Quinta Brunson one and she's so funny and great, and 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.680 luckily they kind of started letting these speeches play out more. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:54.439 But god, Nisi Nash's speech was hilaria when she thanked herself, 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:55.440 that was incredible. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:56.920 So can I ask you a question? 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:57.760 Yeah? 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.120 Have we so in the heyday, you know, when these 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.000 things were tens of millions of people watching and they 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:08.840 went very long, the things may have been the problem 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.440 may have been long speeches. There were so many long 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:16.840 acceptance speeches that that was a problem. Are we projecting 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.000 this as still a problem And maybe the problem is 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.880 we're not using these speeches anymore. Yeah, are we missing 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.000 the mark? They've overcorrected or something. 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.199 They've gotten too worried about it, Like now I'm more 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:31.920 worried about Anthony Anderson doing a twenty minute bizarre open 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.440 and I need to get Jennifer Coolidge off the stage 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:43.280 in twenty seconds. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.480 Does the awards show need to be three hours? That's 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:50.160 another question. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.160 Well, they have twenty seven awards to hand out. We 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.880 probably could have given Beef all eight awards just in 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.200 one minute. The same guy got up and spoke twenty times. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.760 If you didn't see, by the way, it was just 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.319 a celebration of Beef the Bear, A little Abbot Elementary 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:08.719 sprinkled in in succession. That's it. That's the only four 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.959 shows that exist in television. Oh and RuPaul's Dragways, which 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:13.439 has now won fifty Emmys. 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.199 I don't think it needs to be three hours either. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.120 It doesn't what I mean three hours. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.360 Banging out in two hours? 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.760 I remember, I'm not just say what's longer than I thought? Oh, 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:23.760 football is longer than. 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.920 Well, the first time I hosted Miss America, it was 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.280 still three hours on ABC and I was like, wow, 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.440 that is that is a lot. And The Bachelor we 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.120 started doing two hour episodes, which was pretty unheard of. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.120 You know, there was a moment and by the way, 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.920 not to poo poo on all of it. There were 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.480 some great moments going back and seeing you know the 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.439 group from Cheers, but even then, it's like they should 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:49.400 have had more. And there were times when we did 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.200 get some amazing people together from our history, Carol Burnett 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:53.719 and all that, and I'm like, that's what I want 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.880 to see more of. Give me more of that. But 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.520 there was that moment where Sunny and Philadelphia the cast 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.319 got out there and they were making fun of the 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.840 point that they've been there for sixteen years and sixteen 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.480 seasons and they've never been nominated for an Emmy. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.000 Quality over quantity. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.040 I think if that same show had been done in 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.520 two hours, we would be like it was really great. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.480 Like we just needed to cut some of the fat. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.760 I mean, yeah, there were some I Marla Gibbs ninety 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.360 two years old looked amazing. Collins, Oh, Joan Collins, Carol Burnett, 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.400 there were some icons on. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:26.040 Beautiful Joan Collins looked by the way. It was good 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.440 to see the cast of Ally McBeal. Here's a funny 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.120 story and again just why I love television. Ally McBeal 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.320 was the show we went up against when The Bachelor 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.120 premiered and everyone thought, you're never going to make it. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.040 You're against this amazing show tour and to four so 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.920 of Calista Flockhart and I loved Ally McBeal, and then 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.720 later we went up against the West Wing and like 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.560 all these shows that became so huge that came and 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.040 went while we were still in the air, And I 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:57.040 thought about Sonny and Philadelphia. Survivor has been nominated at 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.120 least they were even nominated this year. I go back 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.120 to The Bachelor. We've been on for twenty years. It's 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:06.600 never been nominated. I mean, you could jump up there 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.440 and do the same thing that Sonny and Philadelphia did. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:12.400 It's amazing. And so it also goes to show how 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.960 at the end of the day, truly unimportant these shows are. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:19.959 And let me ask you a question, which one do 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:25.680 you think which statue means the most as far as dollars, Emmy, Globe, 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:27.360 Oscar or Grammy. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.360 Uh, you mean making more money for the person? 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:33.720 Yeah, Like what is like the Emmys In my opinion, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:36.040 don't move the needle. Nobody's going to go out and 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.559 watch Ted Lasso or Succession. Those shows are heavy one, 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.439 but like when the Oscars happen, there is a residual 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:44.760 Oscar bounce typically. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.960 Yeah, I mean I think that Emmys have more opportunity 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:49.080 to do that now than ever before because of streaming, 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:51.120 Like it used to be if you missed a show 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.000 and then it went all these Emmys, well, I don't 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:54.439 wait for next season right now. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.120 I mean you and I. 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.400 After seeing Beef win all these awards, I'm like, why 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:58.959 I didn't watch Beef? Maybe I should go watch it 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.760 and it's available on fl But there's a lot of 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.840 Emmys given out. I mean I have four. Like there's 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.040 the Creative Arts Semis, there's the Daytime Emmys, there's a 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.480 regular Emmys. There's a lot of Emmys, So I think 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:16.959 you have a little more brand dilution there. But yeah, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.480 I think that, uh, you know, they really had an 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.160 opportunity here given that it was the seventy fifth Emmys, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:29.200 and I think the Globes did a better job of 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.440 kind of shaking things up this year. I thought I 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.680 saw more fun content from the Globes. They hired some 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.360 like fun people to do their social media on the 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.560 carpet and that kind of thing. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:40.839 And when you. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:45.120 Think about four million people, I mean that's that's like 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:48.720 one episode of a TV show that people watch right now, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.040 And it would even be considered low for a random 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:52.240 episode of a. 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.880 Television show for a live event that happens one series. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.280 It is atrocious. I haven't seen the numbers. I was 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:59.920 looking right as we came on. It didn't come on, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.680 but I'm going to guess football my guest drew twenty 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:11.000 plus million viewers, so that you know, five x the Emmys. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:16.320 That is what both of these football games did individually. 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:18.880 Now, the Globes did have Taylor Swift, and can we 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.040 talk about the power of Taylor Swift where you might 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.280 be sick of it? No, but I saw all these 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:30.720 tweets about how people are feeling upset for Jason Kelcey, 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.080 and it was all these Swift He's being like, I 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:35.880 didn't know who this man was a year ago, but 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.320 now I feel sad for him and I care about 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.360 him and how he's retiring because he's Taylor Swift's boyfriend's brother, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:44.680 and I totally feel the same way. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:46.560 The guy's a Hall of Famer. I mean, he's gonna 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:48.600 you know, he's one of the greatest to ever play 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:48.840 the game. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:50.560 I totally didn't know that. I didn't know he was 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:51.160 Hall of Famer. 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:55.000 I just saw this video of him crying, and I'm like, oh, Travis's. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.440 Brother, Travis, his little brother. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.160 I also what saw guy say, you know, for anybody 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.680 who's like coming at Taylor Swift about how they're annoyed 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.600 about the shots of her at football games or whatever, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.720 he said, you know what's been cool for me is 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:11.680 he said, for the first time my daughter has asked 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:12.600 me about football. 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.080 Well, you know what. That was a response to a 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.520 former coach who I actually really admire and I've met him. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.880 He's a wonderful guy. And I really think he got 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.680 out over his skis on this. And I don't think 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.920 he's older, so I don't think he understood the honey 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.400 trap he was stepping into. Because Tony Dungee said, you 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:34.040 know this, this Taylor Swift obsession is taking away from football, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.240 it's hurting the game, et cetera. And that gentleman you're 0:15:37.280 --> 0:15:39.840 talking about It was a response to that of like, Tony, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.400 you're missing the point here. I'm sitting here with my daughter. 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.320 The only reason she's watching is because of Taylor Swift. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:49.520 So Tony, I disagree. I don't get the hatred or 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.960 the whatever vitriol. I think that's more of just a 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.120 sign of the times of social media and all the 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.440 like it's just cool to say something rebellious and dumb. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.080 I mean, what impact does she have? So for four seconds, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.360 you saw Taylor Swift the other night, who cares well, 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:06.040 and we were like. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.200 Okay, so you're showing eminem during the. 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.280 Uh yeah, Lions game is a Detroit guy like right? 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:14.760 I mean what if I went to, like I remember 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.400 a Cowboy game and I was there, and you know, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.880 they showed Ellen DeGeneres and George but she who cares 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:23.160 like celebs love sports sports? I don't. I don't understand. 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:28.200 There's I didn't miss one play or one interesting moment 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:32.480 of football because I saw Taylor Swift. And if somebody 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.720 was like you or this little girl, if somebody got 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.600 joy and found some love because they saw Taylor Swift 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.160 and her Kansas City jersey or whatever, oh my god, 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.600 Really that hurts you, Like you didn't miss anything. What 0:16:46.720 --> 0:17:00.440 could you really be mad at? So there were something 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.240 I was really interested in last night, and it made 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.240 me come grab one of your Emmy's. We happen to 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.399 have four here in the house thanks to Lauren Zema. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.760 But as they the winners were holding up, you could 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.560 see there was something inscribed on the bottom of the Emmy. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.000 I've never noticed that, and I thought, well, maybe it's 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:21.080 something sweet, maybe it's something poetic. Lauren happens to have 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.119 her Emmy in hand right now, Babe. What does it 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:24.639 say on the bottom of the Emmy? 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:26.240 There are rules with this emmy? 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.159 I didn't know. Okay, there are three rules the loss 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.680 of owning an Emmy. It doesn't say that, but here's 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.399 what it says. Number One, the Emmy Statuette is the 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.320 property of and all rights are reserved by the Academy 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.760 of Television, Arts and Sciences. Okay, I don't know if 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.200 that means that they own my Emmy, but I guess 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.200 they're saying the copyright of the Emy statuette. Number two, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:49.439 the Emmy Statuette may not be reproduced or used in 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.480 any commercial manner unless otherwise permitted by the Academy. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:53.400 Is Yeah, that makes sense. 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:54.160 Yeah. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.159 Number three, this one's confusing. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:01.800 If a recipient or the recipient's air or successessor proposes 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.680 to sell or otherwise dispose of the Emmy statuette, such 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:09.320 persons shall be obligated to return the statuette to the 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.760 Academy from which received, which will retain the same in 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.080 storage in memory of the recipient. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:17.560 So I don't know what that means. We need to 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:18.320 consult a lawyer. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.159 What it means is if these ever show up at 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.480 a pawnshop, the Emmy organization has the right to go 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.400 in there and take it and bring it home. And 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:28.600 you're not going to see these things floating around on 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.240 eBay or whatever being sold around. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.119 By the way, Emmys aren't cheap. Now, I don't know 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:36.640 if everybody has to buy their own Emmy. They do, yeah, 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.520 I don't know, well do they because they always cut 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:42.000 to the engraving station at the Oscars and the Emmys, 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.240 and they show like footage on social after of the 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:45.680 stars getting their Emmy engraved. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:47.560 So do they have to have a credit card on hand? 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:48.399 Is they have to? 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.399 Because typically for like the Creative Arts and for all 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.080 these other Emmys, it costs like a thousand dollars, right, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:55.359 how much soul money? 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.359 I know you've never won one. I know, I'm not fair. 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.000 What is the Bachelor should have? No Emmys are five 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:01.240 hundred dollars dollars? 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.240 So yes, at this point, I actually have not bought 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.280 my fourth one yet. 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.199 I'm not sure if I'm going to. I don't know. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.560