1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever. And iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison Lauren z Ema coming to you from the 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: home office in Austin, Texas. Quite chilly Austin, Texas. And 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, if it's freezing as I'm looking out right now, 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at our pool and there are still icebergs 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: drifting in our pool. We're in kind of middle of Texas, 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: so everywhere north of here is much much colder. As 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: we were watching football this weekend, what was going on 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, it was like thirty six below. People were 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: bringing their own shovels of Kansas City. 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: Loved it. 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: I love watching well, I'm sure they were good, but 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: it felt like watching adult snow day. I mean, you 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: know me, I'm not always into watching the sports, and 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: I certainly didn't watch all of the games, but like 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: our kids are TCU right now, they're having snow days. 17 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's just something fun about the seasonal experience. 18 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: And I don't mean that to make the light light 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: of like any of the dangers. 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: Things are going great, like when you pipes aren't frozen, 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: when you're not you know, if you have a nice 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: fire and all that there's nothing better than a good 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: cozy day. Yeah. And I liked. 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: Watching the dudes being dudes at the Buffalo game, like yes, 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: like just laying in the snow together, drinking beers, just 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 3: trudging through fans out there to support their team. 27 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Digging their own like Barca loungers into the snow. And 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: I love that. In Buffalo that for the first time, 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: like really in the history of the NFL, they announced 30 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: nobody has seats today, there are no seats. Just dig 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: out and stand where you want to stand. It was 32 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: kind of just first come, first serve wherever you can be. 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: Just try to get in the stadium because there's it 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 1: was just crazy how much snow fell up there and. 35 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: People were like trudging through it. I mean those videos 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: even made their way to me. Well, we watched a 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: little bit of the game. We also watched a little 38 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: bit of the Emmys. 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: We watched all of the Emmies. It was, you know, 40 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: it was a crazy night. As we get into the 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Emmys because obviously people have reached out to us to 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: kind of ask our opinions because well, we have both 43 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: been on the Emmy red carpet. Some of us have 44 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: four Emmys, Lauren, and so it's something we really cared 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: about because obviously it's the industry we are in, In 46 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: the industry we love. The Emmys should have taken place 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: a long time ago, but both unions, the writers actors 48 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: were on strike. So what should have happened in September 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: the seventy fifth Emmys, this look back, this retrospective, and 50 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: this celebration would have been fantastic in September. The fact 51 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: that we just went through the Golden Globes, the Critics' 52 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: Choice Awards, and within eight days we're having our third celebration, 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: but not even really of the same year, because this 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: is last year's Emmys. And on top of that, this 55 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: weather pushed that Bill's football games. Not only do we 56 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: have one football game, we have two football games. Oh 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: and by the way, whether you care or not, it's 58 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: a big deal. The Iowa Caucus is going on. So 59 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: there's more news than we are used to and now 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: we're going to try and shoehorn the Emmys in. They 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: didn't stand a chance. 62 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: It wasn't it was I mean, because yeah, that Buffalo 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: the Bills game was not supposed to be Monday. 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be last Saturday, but weather pushed it. 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: And then you had a major market, Philadelphia. The Eagles 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: were playing right after that. That's a huge game. 67 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,279 Speaker 3: I know the cast of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia 68 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: posted from. 69 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: The Yeah, they be watching the people at the Emmys 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: were not even caring about the Emmys. They were watching 71 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: football on their phones. 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: And you could see some people when they would cut 73 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: to the audience, you could see people on their phones 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: and I was like, are they watching the football games? 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Maybe? 76 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it was even physically an empty theater. Yeah, 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: like the theater wasn't full. There were a lot of 78 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: empty chairs, and I was thinking, you know, usually with 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: the word shows, they hire seat fillers if they have 80 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: empty chairs. 81 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: Could they not even get seat fillers? 82 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: And well, they had a few because obviously Harrison Ford 83 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: was in front of you know, Anthony Anderson's mom, which 84 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: we'll talk about her in a little bit, but you know, 85 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Harrison Ford stuck around for a little bit. Then he 86 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: went probably went backstage before Callista's big moment. And it 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: was very interesting that the director, I could tell, had 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: a really tough time shooting angles of the audience because 89 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: it was so empty. It looked like Hollywood didn't even 90 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: care about the Emmys. 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: Well, and we've gotten the ratings and I think just 92 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: based on all that, we're not surprised. 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were abysmal. 94 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: This is a new low. The headline from Deadline Hollywood 95 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: is Emmy's sync to another historically low. Audience down twenty 96 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: seven percent from twenty twenty two, So in twenty twenty two, 97 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: it was a new low. 98 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: And by the way, I it was funny I read 99 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: that article today in twenty twenty two, the big headline 100 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: was Emmy's down twenty five percent. They sink to a 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: new low. It is crazy that we have come out 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: of the COVID pandemic where we finally can actually be 103 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: together and celebrate, and it's going even further down the toilet. 104 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: Right. 105 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: It says it's a significant decrease from the previous all 106 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: time lows. So that most recent all time low was 107 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: less than six million people. Now it's down to about 108 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: four so you lost an additional two million people. 109 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's rough. 110 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: The Awards show also was down more than thirty seven 111 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: percent from the last time Emmy's Aaron on Fox, which 112 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: is in twenty nineteen, so really really rough and it's 113 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: just in just a few years, and of course the 114 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: pandemic was a big part of it. But these awards 115 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: shows have gone down. I actually didn't think the show 116 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: itself was that bad. 117 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: It wasn't look Hollywood has an insatiable appetite to pat 118 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: itself on the back and tell each other how great 119 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: they are, so it's not going away the Oscars, the Globes, 120 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 1: all that stuff. You're never going to stop Hollywood elites 121 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: from celebrating each other. But with that said, I agree 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: with Lauren. It was a good show. It was the 123 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: seventy fifth anniversary, so it was also an important show, 124 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: and the producers did a good job. I won't say 125 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: they did a great job. They did a good job 126 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: of trying to celebrate history, going back and having these 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: big reunions, the gatherings of cheers and good times. 128 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: If you didn't watch, what they did was it was 129 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: the seventy fifth annual Emmy Awards, so they did some 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: retrospectives looking back at the history of TV, and they 131 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 3: reunited casts from some of the big shows. One thing 132 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: I didn't understand was when they looked back at all 133 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: of these significant moments in TV, and they like they. 134 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: Brought up nine to eleven. 135 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 3: Well it's I'm like, well, that's a news moment we're 136 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 3: talking about, Like, yeah, you scripted and react. 137 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: If you're talking about the seventy five most influential moments 138 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: in television, all seventy five are going to be news. 139 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you would say JFK being assassinated. You would say, 140 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean all those lading on the move. It would 141 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: either be honestly sports or news. So it has to 142 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: be TV moments of entertainment. It's weird to me, you know. 143 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: And most of those, honestly are going to be the 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: Mash Final Show, Cheers Final Show, the Miracle on Ice. 145 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, with all that said, they just seem to 146 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: miss the mark. Sometimes Anthony Anderson was the host. He 147 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: did fine. He wasn't bad, he wasn't great, he did fine. 148 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: The opening of the show, in my opinion, did not 149 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: need to be fifteen minutes of Anthony Anderson singing and dancing. 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: When they were referring to, for example, Miamivice, I would 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: have loved to have seen the guys from Miamivice doing well. 152 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: It's the same issue I had with the Globes, which 153 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: is I really don't think these shows need to be hosted. 154 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: I feel this way across all the awards. 155 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: This is nothing against Anthony Anderson. 156 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: Just no. 157 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: I actually I thought he was I mean, first of all, 158 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: world's above Joe Coy. 159 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: But yes, the bar was set very long and he 160 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: was given. 161 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 2: It his all. 162 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: I mean, at one point he put on that latex 163 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: suit from American Horror Story. When Dylan McDermott was on stage, 164 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: Anthony Anderson was working hard, he brought his mom out. 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: And the thing is, they brought the mom out in 166 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: this bit to jokingly cut people's speeches off. Yeah, and 167 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: I'm thinking, but that's the problem. I would rather see 168 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: her for Coolidge give her whole speech, and you just 169 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 3: cut her off, and we don't need this much like. 170 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Host time, all the other stars were like, oh my god, 171 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: please make it stop. And it didn't stop. The only 172 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: good news, babe, is that they quickly got that note 173 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: they didn't and she didn't do it again. 174 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: Well right, yeah, and it because I mean, I don't 175 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: want to miss Jennifer Coolidge thanking the Evil Gaze. It 176 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: was so funny and brilliant and again, you know, then 177 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: you had like Ioadebois from the bear who's getting up 178 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: there to win, and she's literally saying, oh, they're telling 179 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 3: me I only have forty five seconds. 180 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to be yelled at you. 181 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know again, I want to see these people 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: give their speeches. I mean, we have You've got the 183 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: most talented people in the world up there. Iodebois won 184 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: Quinta Brunson one and she's so funny and great, and 185 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 3: luckily they kind of started letting these speeches play out more. 186 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: But god, Nisi Nash's speech was hilaria when she thanked herself, 187 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: that was incredible. 188 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: So can I ask you a question? 189 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 190 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Have we so in the heyday, you know, when these 191 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: things were tens of millions of people watching and they 192 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: went very long, the things may have been the problem 193 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: may have been long speeches. There were so many long 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: acceptance speeches that that was a problem. Are we projecting 195 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: this as still a problem And maybe the problem is 196 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: we're not using these speeches anymore. Yeah, are we missing 197 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: the mark? They've overcorrected or something. 198 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 4: They've gotten too worried about it, Like now I'm more 199 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: worried about Anthony Anderson doing a twenty minute bizarre open 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 4: and I need to get Jennifer Coolidge off the stage 201 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: in twenty seconds. 202 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: Does the awards show need to be three hours? That's 203 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 2: another question. 204 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Well, they have twenty seven awards to hand out. We 205 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: probably could have given Beef all eight awards just in 206 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: one minute. The same guy got up and spoke twenty times. 207 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: If you didn't see, by the way, it was just 208 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: a celebration of Beef the Bear, A little Abbot Elementary 209 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: sprinkled in in succession. That's it. That's the only four 210 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: shows that exist in television. Oh and RuPaul's Dragways, which 211 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: has now won fifty Emmys. 212 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: I don't think it needs to be three hours either. 213 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: It doesn't what I mean three hours. 214 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Banging out in two hours? 215 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: I remember, I'm not just say what's longer than I thought? Oh, 216 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: football is longer than. 217 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: Well, the first time I hosted Miss America, it was 218 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: still three hours on ABC and I was like, wow, 219 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: that is that is a lot. And The Bachelor we 220 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: started doing two hour episodes, which was pretty unheard of. 221 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: You know, there was a moment and by the way, 222 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: not to poo poo on all of it. There were 223 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: some great moments going back and seeing you know the 224 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: group from Cheers, but even then, it's like they should 225 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: have had more. And there were times when we did 226 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: get some amazing people together from our history, Carol Burnett 227 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 1: and all that, and I'm like, that's what I want 228 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: to see more of. Give me more of that. But 229 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: there was that moment where Sunny and Philadelphia the cast 230 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: got out there and they were making fun of the 231 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: point that they've been there for sixteen years and sixteen 232 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: seasons and they've never been nominated for an Emmy. 233 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: Quality over quantity. 234 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: I think if that same show had been done in 235 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 3: two hours, we would be like it was really great. 236 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: Like we just needed to cut some of the fat. 237 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there were some I Marla Gibbs ninety 238 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: two years old looked amazing. Collins, Oh, Joan Collins, Carol Burnett, 239 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 3: there were some icons on. 240 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Beautiful Joan Collins looked by the way. It was good 241 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: to see the cast of Ally McBeal. Here's a funny 242 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: story and again just why I love television. Ally McBeal 243 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: was the show we went up against when The Bachelor 244 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: premiered and everyone thought, you're never going to make it. 245 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: You're against this amazing show tour and to four so 246 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: of Calista Flockhart and I loved Ally McBeal, and then 247 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: later we went up against the West Wing and like 248 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: all these shows that became so huge that came and 249 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: went while we were still in the air, And I 250 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: thought about Sonny and Philadelphia. Survivor has been nominated at 251 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: least they were even nominated this year. I go back 252 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: to The Bachelor. We've been on for twenty years. It's 253 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: never been nominated. I mean, you could jump up there 254 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: and do the same thing that Sonny and Philadelphia did. 255 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: It's amazing. And so it also goes to show how 256 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, truly unimportant these shows are. 257 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: And let me ask you a question, which one do 258 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: you think which statue means the most as far as dollars, Emmy, Globe, 259 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: Oscar or Grammy. 260 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: Uh, you mean making more money for the person? 261 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like what is like the Emmys In my opinion, 262 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: don't move the needle. Nobody's going to go out and 263 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: watch Ted Lasso or Succession. Those shows are heavy one, 264 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: but like when the Oscars happen, there is a residual 265 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Oscar bounce typically. 266 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that Emmys have more opportunity 267 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 3: to do that now than ever before because of streaming, 268 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: Like it used to be if you missed a show 269 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: and then it went all these Emmys, well, I don't 270 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: wait for next season right now. 271 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean you and I. 272 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: After seeing Beef win all these awards, I'm like, why 273 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 3: I didn't watch Beef? Maybe I should go watch it 274 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: and it's available on fl But there's a lot of 275 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: Emmys given out. I mean I have four. Like there's 276 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: the Creative Arts Semis, there's the Daytime Emmys, there's a 277 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: regular Emmys. There's a lot of Emmys, So I think 278 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 3: you have a little more brand dilution there. But yeah, 279 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: I think that, uh, you know, they really had an 280 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: opportunity here given that it was the seventy fifth Emmys, 281 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 3: and I think the Globes did a better job of 282 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: kind of shaking things up this year. I thought I 283 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 3: saw more fun content from the Globes. They hired some 284 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: like fun people to do their social media on the 285 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 3: carpet and that kind of thing. 286 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: And when you. 287 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: Think about four million people, I mean that's that's like 288 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 3: one episode of a TV show that people watch right now, 289 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: And it would even be considered low for a random 290 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: episode of a. 291 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: Television show for a live event that happens one series. 292 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: It is atrocious. I haven't seen the numbers. I was 293 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: looking right as we came on. It didn't come on, 294 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: but I'm going to guess football my guest drew twenty 295 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: plus million viewers, so that you know, five x the Emmys. 296 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: That is what both of these football games did individually. 297 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 3: Now, the Globes did have Taylor Swift, and can we 298 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: talk about the power of Taylor Swift where you might 299 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 3: be sick of it? No, but I saw all these 300 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: tweets about how people are feeling upset for Jason Kelcey, 301 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 3: and it was all these Swift He's being like, I 302 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: didn't know who this man was a year ago, but 303 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: now I feel sad for him and I care about 304 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 3: him and how he's retiring because he's Taylor Swift's boyfriend's brother, 305 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: and I totally feel the same way. 306 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: The guy's a Hall of Famer. I mean, he's gonna 307 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's one of the greatest to ever play 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the game. 309 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: I totally didn't know that. I didn't know he was 310 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 311 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: I just saw this video of him crying, and I'm like, oh, Travis's. 312 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Brother, Travis, his little brother. 313 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: I also what saw guy say, you know, for anybody 314 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: who's like coming at Taylor Swift about how they're annoyed 315 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 3: about the shots of her at football games or whatever, 316 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: he said, you know what's been cool for me is 317 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: he said, for the first time my daughter has asked 318 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: me about football. 319 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: Well, you know what. That was a response to a 320 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: former coach who I actually really admire and I've met him. 321 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful guy. And I really think he got 322 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: out over his skis on this. And I don't think 323 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: he's older, so I don't think he understood the honey 324 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: trap he was stepping into. Because Tony Dungee said, you 325 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: know this, this Taylor Swift obsession is taking away from football, 326 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: it's hurting the game, et cetera. And that gentleman you're 327 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: talking about It was a response to that of like, Tony, 328 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: you're missing the point here. I'm sitting here with my daughter. 329 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: The only reason she's watching is because of Taylor Swift. 330 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: So Tony, I disagree. I don't get the hatred or 331 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: the whatever vitriol. I think that's more of just a 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: sign of the times of social media and all the 333 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: like it's just cool to say something rebellious and dumb. 334 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what impact does she have? So for four seconds, 335 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: you saw Taylor Swift the other night, who cares well, 336 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: and we were like. 337 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're showing eminem during the. 338 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Lions game is a Detroit guy like right? 339 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean what if I went to, like I remember 340 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: a Cowboy game and I was there, and you know, 341 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: they showed Ellen DeGeneres and George but she who cares 342 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: like celebs love sports sports? I don't. I don't understand. 343 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: There's I didn't miss one play or one interesting moment 344 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: of football because I saw Taylor Swift. And if somebody 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: was like you or this little girl, if somebody got 346 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: joy and found some love because they saw Taylor Swift 347 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: and her Kansas City jersey or whatever, oh my god, 348 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: Really that hurts you, Like you didn't miss anything. What 349 00:16:46,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: could you really be mad at? So there were something 350 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: I was really interested in last night, and it made 351 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: me come grab one of your Emmy's. We happen to 352 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: have four here in the house thanks to Lauren Zema. 353 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: But as they the winners were holding up, you could 354 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: see there was something inscribed on the bottom of the Emmy. 355 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: I've never noticed that, and I thought, well, maybe it's 356 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: something sweet, maybe it's something poetic. Lauren happens to have 357 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: her Emmy in hand right now, Babe. What does it 358 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: say on the bottom of the Emmy? 359 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: There are rules with this emmy? 360 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: I didn't know. Okay, there are three rules the loss 361 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: of owning an Emmy. It doesn't say that, but here's 362 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: what it says. Number One, the Emmy Statuette is the 363 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: property of and all rights are reserved by the Academy 364 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: of Television, Arts and Sciences. Okay, I don't know if 365 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: that means that they own my Emmy, but I guess 366 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: they're saying the copyright of the Emy statuette. Number two, 367 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 3: the Emmy Statuette may not be reproduced or used in 368 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: any commercial manner unless otherwise permitted by the Academy. 369 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: Is Yeah, that makes sense. 370 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 371 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: Number three, this one's confusing. 372 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 3: If a recipient or the recipient's air or successessor proposes 373 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: to sell or otherwise dispose of the Emmy statuette, such 374 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: persons shall be obligated to return the statuette to the 375 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: Academy from which received, which will retain the same in 376 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 3: storage in memory of the recipient. 377 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: So I don't know what that means. We need to 378 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: consult a lawyer. 379 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: What it means is if these ever show up at 380 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: a pawnshop, the Emmy organization has the right to go 381 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 1: in there and take it and bring it home. And 382 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to see these things floating around on 383 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: eBay or whatever being sold around. 384 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 3: By the way, Emmys aren't cheap. Now, I don't know 385 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: if everybody has to buy their own Emmy. They do, yeah, 386 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, well do they because they always cut 387 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: to the engraving station at the Oscars and the Emmys, 388 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: and they show like footage on social after of the 389 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 3: stars getting their Emmy engraved. 390 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: So do they have to have a credit card on hand? 391 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 4: Is they have to? 392 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Because typically for like the Creative Arts and for all 393 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: these other Emmys, it costs like a thousand dollars, right, 394 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: how much soul money? 395 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: I know you've never won one. I know, I'm not fair. 396 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: What is the Bachelor should have? No Emmys are five 397 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 2: hundred dollars dollars? 398 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: So yes, at this point, I actually have not bought 399 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: my fourth one yet. 400 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm going to. I don't know. 401 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: Is it worth five hundred bucks? 402 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: Like you still are a winner of it, but at 403 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 3: some point I'll spent two thousand dollars on Emmy statues, 404 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, does that apply? 405 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: Like is that only for little old me? 406 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: Or yeah? I don't know if that applies for the 407 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: Primetime Emmys. 408 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 3: If the I don't know, Like last night, did the 409 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 3: wonderful and talented Quinta Brunson have to like whip out 410 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: her credit card at the engraving station? 411 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to find out. Now we 412 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: know what it says in the bottom, but oh gosh, 413 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: they are heavy. So oh, you know, what was You know, 414 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: it was another weird moment last night? 415 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: What's it? 416 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: What was with the guy who won and he was chewing? 417 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: Oh? 418 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: Yes, what happened? 419 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I thought it was a bit 420 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: he was he won and then he came up and 421 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: he was chewing on like a look like some caramel 422 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: or something, because he was like he was really kept, 423 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: was like beef jerky, And I thought, okay, he's going 424 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: to make a joke about this, like, oh, I look, 425 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I took a bite of my hogiy because I didn't 426 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: think I was going to win, and he kept like 427 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: kind of chewing and he choked down something, and then 428 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: he gave his speech and it was so bizarre. 429 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: He read his speech, which was a wrap off of 430 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 3: his phone, and you could see his handshaking, and I 431 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 3: fell back because he was clearly so nervous. The speech 432 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: was well written and cute. I don't love reading important 433 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 3: speeches and toasts and that kind of thing off a phone. 434 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: I think that's the time when you bring a piece 435 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: of paper the phone for some reason, no matter how 436 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: modern the technology gets. I know we all own a phone, 437 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: but there's something because I think it just seems like 438 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: instantly juvenile or instantly like you don't really care. Maybe 439 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 3: it's because when someone's looking at their phone, we think 440 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 3: they're not listening to us, Like you got to print 441 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: it out on a piece of paper, I agree, And 442 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: then your phone's locking and you're scrolling, you're using the 443 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 3: face side on the Emmys, and it's funny. 444 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: I agree. A piece of paper for some reason, feels 445 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: more intimate. 446 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: You know, one good moment from the Emmys, Tina Fay 447 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 3: and Amy Pohler reuniting. 448 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: Loved that. 449 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: Of course, then you have everybody saying have them host 450 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: it if they wanted to, they would, they don't want 451 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: to take it on. 452 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: I think our point from the Golden Globes is the best. 453 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: It's like, use those people like honestly. And again this 454 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: no offense to Anthony Anderson, but if you had just 455 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: used all these great casts over seventy five years of 456 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: great television to host essentially the show that would have 457 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: been did that's all you needed? That's it? I think 458 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: that would have been a great way to do it. 459 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: And I love seeing because I love old television. I 460 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: saw some great television. I grew up with things I 461 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: love now and I love I do like seeing people 462 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: celebrated because you and I both know how hard television is. 463 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: And I'll get on a little soapbox here about even 464 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: my Bachelor family, how difficult it is to make TV. 465 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: To get a show bought, sold and put on the air. 466 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: The set, decks, art department, lighting, directors, fautogs, audio, you know, 467 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: you name it are working crazy hours. It is a 468 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: really tough yet rewarding business. And it's a passion. And 469 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: it's very rare that you have a business that is 470 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: an art that is a passion. And so I do 471 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: like watching the celebration because I respect what all these 472 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: people do. It takes a lot of work, not just 473 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: the big stars that we love, but a lot of 474 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: people behind the scenes. You know, the writers from Succession. 475 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I think the guy that wrote that unbelievably beautiful episode 476 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: when the dad dies, and how well that was written 477 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: and how well it was acted. When all that comes together, 478 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better. And you and I were 479 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: just talking about how triggering the Succession theme song is. 480 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: You just hear the theme song when they won an 481 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: award and you're like, oh, it just took you to 482 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: a dark, awesome place. And I miss that show already. 483 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: So I I know we can bag on it and 484 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: the ratings suck and all that stuff, but I still 485 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: want to say I love celebrating TV. I love this business, 486 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: and I'm glad we're still doing it. 487 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: You know why I'm so hard on it because I 488 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: want it to be good. 489 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's what I love. 490 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 2: It could be good. 491 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: And I saw several people sharing videos like, oh, people 492 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: don't accept awards like this anymore, Like the time when 493 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 3: Julia Louis Dreyfus was winning for VEEP and she brought 494 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: Tony Hale up with her and they like kind of 495 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 3: did a bit from the show. 496 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: For her speech. 497 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to get like, give those moments time. 498 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 3: Let people have fun again and get back to the 499 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 3: fun of it. I hope that if award shows are 500 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: going to change anything, I hope it's that get back 501 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: to some of the fun. It doesn't have to be 502 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: so preachy. People don't want to be preached at. They 503 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: want to enjoy and allow the actors a little time 504 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: to do that. You know, don't cut their speeches off 505 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 3: led Jennifer Coolidge, thank the Evil Case. 506 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: As a producer, anytime that you feel that you or 507 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: your show is talking down to the fans to America, 508 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: just stop cut it, get back to fun, get back 509 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: to entertaining. We love Hollywood. We want to love Hollywood. 510 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I think that's the better statement. We want to love you. 511 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: Help us help you. And speaking of help us, help you, 512 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. We love talking to you each 513 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: and every time we get the honor to do this. 514 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Truly appreciate it, and we will do it again next 515 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: time because we have a lot more to talk about. 516 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at the most 517 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: dramatic pod ever and make sure to write us a 518 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: review and leave us five stars. I'll talk to you 519 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: next time.